SFIV Graphics Have Evolved

[chunbelievable]

Capcom Japan updated their SFIV site and in the gallery are new pics of the game with a slightly new art style. More cel shady (cartoony). Check out the comparison pic...

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/evolution.jpg

Background characters seemed to have gotten more detail as well. I like the direction the graphics are heading and I am sure there will be plenty of haters as well. But for me this looks more like art moving than animated models.

More pics on http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4

[gl0ry]

They might have tweaked the lighting and blur effects. Looks sharper and cleaner now.

[Kataklysmic]

Capcom Japan updated their SFIV site and in the gallery are new pics of the game with a slightly new art style. More cel shady (cartoony). Check out the comparison pic...

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/evolution.jpg

Background characters seemed to have gotten more detail as well. I like the direction the graphics are heading and I am sure there will be plenty of haters as well. But for me this looks more like art moving than animated models.

More pics on http://capcom.co.jp/sfiv

Yeah, when Ono said he wanted moving paintings, he wasn't kidding. I can see brush stroke effects in the close-up shots, and now they're more visible from the standard game angle.

[chunbelievable]

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/ryu.jpg

I think it is more than just the blur and lighting effects but the material shaders themselves to be closer to hand drawn than realistic. This pic is just too cool :)

[Pablo_the_Mex]

This is excellent. It also seems like STHD and SFIV have changed for the better.

[JubeiNinja69]

i like the new art. it looks more "2-d" now in a way.

[P.o.t.S.]

Wow they really look much, much cleaner now.

[BadMojo]

I'm really hoping those chickens break out of their cage during a match and get fried by a Hadouken.

Seems like they've added more characters to the background too. There are now more people sitting at the restaurant plus there's an old guy cheering the fight.

[BruceLB]

Remember when people thought the game was going to look like this (http://www.gamemanx.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/street-fighter-4-pics.jpg)?

[chunbelievable]

I seriously dig the back ground characters more now. I wonder how much more the graphics will change beyond this series of images.

[chunbelievable]

Remember when people thought the game was going to look like this (http://www.gamemanx.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/street-fighter-4-pics.jpg)?

Wow....

[desistyle3]

this looks sick!! I like it a lot more compared to the original style...

[ThePunisherXBL]

God damn that looks good.

[fallot]

Looks awesome, I'm quite impressed. My problems with the game's visuals (faces) still stand, but this is definitely a change for the better.

Edit: Shit, did Dhalsim get a whole new face ? (Pic 27 on SF4 website).
Edit2: Wow they touched up the parts of Blanka I didn't like. Looking good.

[Helter Skelter]

I hope they add more ink marks to the game now.

[crazydiamond]

I like the old style. Gritty authentic. But I like this one too! Crisp and has that Capcom fresh colour scheme.

It's ALL good!

[The Furious One]

Capcom Japan updated their SFIV site and in the gallery are new pics of the game with a slightly new art style. More cel shady (cartoony). Check out the comparison pic...

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/evolution.jpg

Background characters seemed to have gotten more detail as well. I like the direction the graphics are heading and I am sure there will be plenty of haters as well. But for me this looks more like art moving than animated models.

More pics on http://capcom.co.jp/sfiv

JP site seems to be down for me, but I cant see much of a difference, sure the images look alot sharper and cleaner (and they have fixed the clothes clipping) but how much of that is just because the image contrast, the colour correction and the image compression are better than the original images????

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/ryu.jpg

I think it is more than just the blur and lighting effects but the material shaders themselves to be closer to hand drawn than realistic. This pic is just too cool :)

Yeh that image looks cool, but from the videos I saw this effect only appears during the win animation and is not visible during gameplay, which is a huge shame cos I really dig that image.

[chunbelievable]

^^ did you magnify the pic in your browser? I am not saying you are missing anything but when I look at the newer pics I see the textures/shaders completely altered to be more reminiscent of a drawing than the previous style. In the pic of Chun with her arms crossed the features look more like they were made from water color where as the original style which seems to be hyper exaggerated from a light source.

Maybe you see more of what I am seeing from the other pics on the website.

[Vegett0]

JP site seems to be down for me, but I cant see much of a difference, sure the images look alot sharper and cleaner (and they have fixed the clothes clipping) but how much of that is just because the image contrast, the colour correction and the image compression are better than the original images????

http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/

chunbelievable - fix your link the first post. The official JP site ends in /sf4 not /sfiv

Ken's hair seems to have gone through a change as well. It doesn't look like a solid piece of plastic anymore. Speaking of hair, I definitely like the change to Blanka's. I want to see this new style in action.

[chunbelievable]

Whoops, changed it. Thanks.

[The Furious One]

nah I'm not.

But here look I've tried to match the screen resolution to equal the originals. Standing side my side and ignoring the over saturated colours of the original, and the slightly different camera angles and distances. I'm not seeing it.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1715/exampletb3.jpg

[Freak on Board]

More pics on http://capcom.co.jp/sf4

Actually, the URL is http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/

[Ki Shima]

I kind of remember mentioning something about layers.............

[The Furious One]

Actually, the URL is http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/

ha yeh that link worked :wink:

[kaB00M]

"I'm not seeing it."

your blind. go SEE a doctor.

[fistoftheryustar]

this is exactly what needed to be done. i kept saying the graphics are alright but cel shaded like in the trailer would be awesome. this is def a step in the right direction

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

Although the new updates are really nice, Ryu's face still looks fucking ugly. He looks older than in 3s. Well, only in that picture.

[chunbelievable]

^^ fair enough. We all see something different and I may perhaps be looking at this with different eyes. Now this is not an ego maniac thing but I work in motion graphics/animation (after effects, C4D) and let me say up front that I have no idea what your digital imaging background is nor would I speculate your level either. I am simply saying that having worked extensively with shaders/materials I see a gigantic difference between the two styles.

When I look at the newer pics I see the tonal values that a water color mix would make in Chun's arms. In fact I would be hard pressed to make the old images look exactly like the new ones in photoshop. And that is just for a single frame. The designers got the look to happen globally though shaders/materials. On the surface I can certainly understand how it may be observed as a simple contrast change. But to get a object to change that much is indeed a process and how I would see an evolution.

Now that pic I posted of Ryu, that is in game engine gamema (game cinema). Gamema is always rendered realtime to save storage space, skip load times and accommodate custom characters. So where there is an obvious difference between that image and the original Ryu schlong shot, the art style was drastically adjusted to make the newer image and the game is rendering that image on the fly. That same art style for the really cool win pose "should" be the same as the actual fighting art style. Perhaps toned down during the fight a little but the same graphics engine none the less.

Check out this pic of Sim, if you look very closely at the action shots you can see the same shading techniques in the fighting character further away as the win pose sequence.

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/sim.jpg

Wow that got long winded, sorry. I guess the long story short would have been I see a big difference. I ain't mad a ya for not seeing the same thing. Just different eyes.

edit: this was a long response to Furious.

[FightingGames4ever]

Wow, great! I loved also the "old" style, but this one is better!
I noticed especially in Ken pic, that there's the effect explained by Ono about "drawnings in movement". Are you agree Chunbelievable?

[chunbelievable]

^^ Very much so.

[Ki Shima]

to be honest i was expecting it to have a bit more ink look involvement in the finished product, but its looking nice anyway, and i love what they did with the background, finally someone has realised the backgrounds in fighters needs upgrading too, and apparently theyve added more spectators, hopefully it'll look as good as i think it will

[KrsJin]

Seems they added more special effects too like the bluring of hand motions and stuff. Kind of fleshing it out now. It's a subtle but nice improvement I feel.

[MiLky]

Fuck yeah, is a great week with the new SF:HD and SF4 art stepping it up. I'm like a kid again, that can't wait for christmas.

[Arxinal]

Dhalsim looks AMAZING here (http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/03/2331219473_83c6d629e6.jpg).

[snakedizzle209]

I'm so happy about this. I wasnt really feeling the old style. This is just the kind of change I was hoping for.

[Helter Skelter]

Dhalsim looks AMAZING here (http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/03/2331219473_83c6d629e6.jpg).

:rofl:

[Mixah]

:tup:

[The Furious One]

"I'm not seeing it."

your blind. go SEE a doctor.

funny man, you deserve a cookie.



edit: this was a long response to Furious.

Dude thanks for taking the time to explain that. What you wrote makes sense, I can see the subtle differences now. Is it be enough though, especially in motion it might make things look more convincing and easier on the eye. They really should adopt the win pose art style throughout the gameplay, I don't find it hard at all to keep up with the movements during the poses I dont see how it could effect gameplay negatively in anyway.

Dhalsim looks AMAZING here (http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/03/2331219473_83c6d629e6.jpg).

OMG that is too funny!!! :rofl:

[blankspaces]

Dhalsim looks AMAZING here (http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/03/2331219473_83c6d629e6.jpg).

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[rozi]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1715/exampletb3.jpg

What is new: left or right?

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

^^ The other right.

I'm not sure if they moved some people in the background around, or did they make it sort of like real-time where you'll see them walking away and stuff.

[fistoftheryustar]

Although the new updates are really nice, Ryu's face still looks fucking ugly. He looks older than in 3s. Well, only in that picture.

Yea he's the main character throughout the SF games, and of course fro my username Im gunna be partial. But yeah I like this new Ryu better, but its still not totally "on." I hope they arent completely done w/ him. He kinna reminds me of Eric Roberts' cringy face in Best of the Best 2

[fallot]

^^ The right.

The left :mad:

[rozi]

^^ The right.

I'm not sure if they moved some people in the background around, or did they make it sort of like real-time where you'll see them walking away and stuff.

Thanks, but i like left images :-(

[rozi]

The left :mad:

Hmm, so what then: LEFT or RIGHT is new? please

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

The left :mad:

That's what I meant, the other right. :rofl:

I never noticed, but has Ken always worn longer pants than Ryu? In the screenshots Ryu's are cut, Ken's just hangs to the floor.

[clue2025]

Wow I really like it now. The style is nice and cleaned up and I think with this it'll make it less "glitchy" looking. It just seemed to me with the older complete 3D look it would make it easier to see stuff like misses hitting and stuff.

[fallot]

Hmm, so what then: LEFT or RIGHT is new? please

The ones you liked better are new.

[COUM]

glad to see the complaining paid off

[johnnyutah001]

glad to see the complaining paid off


there's no major changes here "thanks" to loud internet a-holes. they keep tweaking the models because thats just what artists do.

[Tigerboi]

glad to see the complaining paid off

Right, because the game not being finished surely had nothing to do with the models being updated.

[COUM]

who can say really?

[kenjiharima]

this is exactly what needed to be done. i kept saying the graphics are alright but cel shaded like in the trailer would be awesome. this is def a step in the right direction

Finally! I hope they make it good as the trailers of Ryu VS Ken and Chunli VS C.Viper.

Moving Paintings got stuck in my head every since Ono said it. I expect it to be like that.

[Jinrai]

The System slideshows on the site are using the improved graphics. The Focus Attack slideshow in particular shows a lot more now.

[hecz]

Wow these changes look amazing, I hope they keep adding more ink cuz it looks crazy :lovin:

[Tigerboi]

who can say really?

The exact same thing has happened to other(all) games in the past without the crapload of whining that the streetfighter fanbase has done. So, yeah, safe to say that it had nothing to do with it this time.

[COUM]

i think pretty much every community for every game does a crapload of whining dude

[Tigerboi]

Personal experience: I have NEVER seen a fanbase as whiney as this. And I'm a zelda fan. I thought those fags whined alot until Sf4 got announced.

Point; This is most likely how they wanted the game to end up looking from the jump, and that's evident in the fact that it fits ono's early descriptions quite well. I doubt all the complaints had much to do with it. Note, that the game was never finished when it was being shown to us. it STILL isn't.

[fallot]

Personal experience: I have NEVER seen a fanbase as whiney as this.

Are you fucking serious ? Check out most MMORPG forums.

[Tigerboi]

No, seeing as I don't play them.

[Nokato]

After looking at a few of the "updated" screenshots, there has been a change in the models to appear much more "2-D" like in terms of cel-shading. It's something that goes along more with the SFII aesthetic and not something that really was unpolished and seemed amateurish. The current look takes the vibrant sensibility of 2-D and tries to implement that into a 3-D model. It's a move toward a better direction than the previous screenshots we've seen so that's something positive to say.

I think that they intentionally want Ryu to look older for some reason since that hasn't really changed since the initial build, so that's something people will have to deal with. If I were to list things that bother me the most while being concise about it would be:

- Move Guile's pants down slightly, since they're almost up to his chest.
-Continue to upgrade Ken's face, or just take the clef chin out.
-Make Chun's face feminine and tone down the modeling on her ulnas.
-Edit Zangief's anatomy (specifically under his arm, muscle is missing)

With the direction being considered (I stress this alot), those are the biggest concerns and more than likely they won't go unchecked. This isn't a complaint these are just issues that have been brought up before and with the recent changes hoepfully they will be addressed.

While I might be more excited for HD Remix currently, its nice to see the changes in both projects.

[fallot]

-Edit Zangief's anatomy (specificall under his arm, muscle is missing)

Almost all the models are missing the Latissimus Dorsi, or that particular muscle is way, way too small compared to the rest of their physique. Its glaringly obvious on Honda and Zangief, not bad at all on Dhalsim and only bad on Ryu and Ken in stills.

[Genetix1234]

holy shit, the saving attack slide show was SICK!

[The Switcher]

I really like the newer stuff.

[Jimmy Bones]

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/evolution.jpg

Its great to see how clean and sharp those pics are, it feels more like 2D
The Background are much better...
I hope to see some updates on characters, Chun's face, Ken's hair and chin, etc.

[magdalenarules]

heh, they just adjusted the contrast. There were no huge cel shader 3d modelmogrification splineshaped shaderifficness transformative super saiyan evolutions done here. Maybe they tweaked the actual shapes and anatomies of the models, I haven't really checked on any of that, but the technology/style/engine they're using for shading and rendering hasn't changed

AND I LOVE CHUN LI's BONY ELBOWS! THAT HAS BEEN A STAPLE OF ALL HER CHARACTER ART since the beginning AND I LOVE IT AND THEY BETTER KEEP IT!!!!!!!! She's super cute but she's still rough and tumble YES.

[COUM]

I did wonder the same thing; the only major difference I noticed is the saturation (which was always too high in screenshots compared to the actual arcade footage), but I thought I'd forgo bringing that up in favor of baiting the easily-trolled SF4 forum

[Fulaani]

looks much better now

[CaliLifeStyle]

Looks like they went with less detail, brighter colors, and smoother looks. I like it.

[Projectjustice]

Its looking way better now. Keep up the good job Capcom! Now lets add some variety to the lineup.

[kenjiharima]

Ryu's eyes are not popping out.

[Nokato]

Ryu's eyes are not popping out.

He just got out of rehab, got a nice job--he's doing good now. On that come up, :rofl:

[Gutter Trash]

the colors are way better in these new improved shots, so has the lighting. Much crisper and the characters' colors are more acurate.

Chun-Li's blue is now closer to 3rd Strike's blue and lovely blue.

Me is happy

[Taito]

It would rock if the final game looks like that Ryu pic.
I seriously dig the back ground characters more now. I wonder how much more the graphics will change beyond this series of images.
Hopefully the goddamn faces are next. Everyone has this fucking annoying Zoolander face. It's cool that the models have a wide range of facial expressions, but it's only okay for Ryu's eyes to bug the hell out when he's getting hit, not when he's in his normal stance.

[Arsenal]

Truth, the level of detail in the faces needs improvement, but also, they need to slightly tone-down the over-exaggerated expressions. Ryu looking like Sentinel's c.HP is not a good look.

[Optimus Prime]

Whoa… That looks so, so much better now. :woot:
Freakin’ beautiful.

Way, way better-looking than the previous way they were rendered in, which looked sorta "rusty" to me.

Hmm, it really looks like they hyper-amped the lighting of the 3-D models (now), kinda like how another game company did it in here (http://www.msxbox-world.com/screenshots360/ss/3/DOA401.jpg) (or here (http://www.msxbox-world.com/screenshots360/ss/3/DOA405.jpg)) in another 3-D game. The original way it, referring to SF IV, was lighted before was probably just regular lighting (for testing/debugging purposes) or more closer to realistic lighting, and this current result was probably their intended look in the beginning, but they did not want to show the public just yet of this splendid feature. (Example (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=224) of “realistic lighting” in the latest 3-D video games. :wink: )

[archetype]

looks like they put baby oil on the chracters and wrapped them in saran wrap for the new gfx's

[UltraDavid]

Wow, talk about an improvement. This is way better, and it's not even close.

[DanSC]

i like the old style more, the new one is too dark

[P.o.t.S.]

i like the old style more, the new one is too dark
The new one's on the left, the old one's what's dark.

[Sasmasta]

Ah...

ha.

[fallot]

If you can't tell the new ones apart from the old ones and have been following SF4 development: Find a fire to die in.

Edit: It's all good if you haven't been though

[DanSC]

^^i stop following SF4 since i found out it was not 2D

[Nokato]

^^i stop following SF4 since i found out it was not 2D

The game is 2-D, the models themselves are 3-D--the game is strictly on a 2-D plane. I'm sure you just mean the sprites aren't traditionally hand-drawn in 2-D.

And well, I really don't see how someone couldn't tell the difference between the previous models and the new tweaks. I mean, most of us analyze SF critically to an obscene amount. Its already crazy that alot of people didn't realize there were hand prints in the fireballs, now when its blatantly obvious that there are changes (albeit small) I'd think people would notice even if they haven't followed the game recently.

That's all I'm saying.

[Crab_Lips]

That looks fantastic. I was just talking to a friend the other day that I'd love a 3D SF game that looks like the new Dragonball 3D game---cell shaded to the point where it looks practically hand drawn.

Definitely a step in the right direction, IMO.

[fallot]

looks like the new Dragonball 3D game---cell shaded to the point where it looks practically hand drawn.

You know, that's the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the new screenshots. They reminded of shots of the new DBZ game.

[EndLeSS8]

Looks a lot better now
Flows a lot better, more integrated.

[The Mullah]

i'm a little confused, the first comparison shots show very clean and bright new sprites. Then a pic of ryu is posted along with people praising the focus attack slide show which shows very dark/ high contrast images. which are people considering new?

[Nokato]

i'm a little confused, the first comparison shots show very clean and bright new sprites. Then a pic of ryu is posted along with people praising the focus attack slide show which shows very dark/ high contrast images. which are people considering new?

Its a collective praise at least for me I guess. To me, depsite my preference for 2-D hand drawn sprites: I do acknowledge the changes for the positive within the 3-D models for all the characters. Along with that, the Saving Attack slide video shows the augmentations of Ryu's sprite during the startup of a Saving Attack with heavy resonating ink brush strokes around his contour. This actually ties into 2 things Ono's early sentiment of trying to make moving paintings out of the 3-D models, if you look at Ken's sprite its used to emphasize the impact of the Saving Attack and the ink dissolves away as he falls. It's a very nice aesthetic within the direction, and constraints of the current look of the game.

Both work respectively in its proper place.

[chunbelievable]

i'm a little confused, the first comparison shots show very clean and bright new sprites. Then a pic of ryu is posted along with people praising the focus attack slide show which shows very dark/ high contrast images. which are people considering new?

The brighter colored sprites in the first comparison pic is the newer style. I can't say for certain but having watched the focus attack slide show that the high contrast and really dark strokes are are effects for the focus attack only. This is of course speculation for the moment, I don't have any solid evidence to support this.

Nokato, I am just going to throw this out there... no talking shit at all.... having read this thread and many others, you sound as if you are becoming a believer... just sayin.

Furious, no problem bro. Thanks for being receptive.

[FightingGames4ever]

I also hope they'll add that ink effect in one of Abel's screens to all the characters

[Shinto]

Nice, hopefully the animation won't look like its being made with children blocks...

[crazydiamond]

Actually I think the developers originally wanted it to look like this. They released the other style to the public first to hide what they were really going to release.

The fans had nothing to do with it.

[The Furious One]

i hope they fix the walking, I've read on other threads people find it weird.
From the videos Zangief looked like he was walking on ice, his feet were moving but he was hardly getting anywhere.

[Nokato]

Nokato, I am just going to throw this out there... no talking shit at all.... having read this thread and many others, you sound as if you are becoming a believer... just sayin.


That's not shit talk, its just simple observation in a change in my opinion about the game. In some ways you're right. I've said my piece on what I don't like and from what I can see certain things are being addressed and within the direction Ono is taking its making gradual moves forward.

The key point is, no matter how much arguing I've done even I got to a point where I realized I'm still going to play the damned game in some way. And when they do something right, its worth mentioning.

[basic]

Which is the new one? The darker or the lighter one?

[inkblot]

Much better. Hopefully Capcom will continue to experiment with the shaders. And fix the faces please.

[*Onslaught*]

It looks like it's trying to go for the oil painted look, which so far looks great. If you don't really pay attention to detail they can almost look like sprites. That's the look I think they're going for.

[True Grave]

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/ryu.jpg

I think it is more than just the blur and lighting effects but the material shaders themselves to be closer to hand drawn than realistic. This pic is just too cool :)

Damn thats the ugliest pic of Ryu i've ever seen! I hope its not the end result.

Ryu looks like a cross between the hulk, with his colossal feet & caveman brow ridge, and the crypt-keeper with that face, jaw, and eyes.

[Spinning Beat]

It looks cleaner but Chun STILL has beastly man hands.

My only gripe, other than that def. an improvement.

[Nokato]

If there's ONE thing that still boils my blood a little are the faces of just about every character in SF4. Its certainly one aspect that definitely needs to change if just merely for the sake of the outcry of the fanbase.

[Sasmasta]

Bigger fireball.

:spiritbomb:

[True Grave]

If there's ONE thing that still boils my blood a little are the faces of just about every character in SF4. Its certainly one aspect that definitely needs to change if just merely for the sake of the outcry of the fanbase.

Agreed. Most of the faces are too "strong" with overly pronounced features.

Why the hell does Ryu look like the Hulk in mid-transformation?!

[DragonPunchPimP]

it looks clean and i like that ryu pic

[AlphaDragoon02]

Ryu's face looks fucking RETARDED. But overall the new style is amazing, much better than the old one. It also looks like they adjusted animations in the models too, you can see Chun's thumbs in top picture are in more natural positions now. She does still have freakishly huge hands though. :rofl:

[Gumbercules]

looks 20 times better

[MannyKal]

if these screens were posted already, sorry for my lameness
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10203107&postcount=61

in any event, i'm getting happier with the more i see....

[Spinning Beat]

if these screens were posted already, sorry for my lameness
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10203107&postcount=61

in any event, i'm getting happier with the more i see....

Vipers got some nice breast exposure in those screens. :woot:

[True Grave]

Vipers got some nice breast exposure in those screens. :woot:

Boobies or not, she's still fugly...

...fugly and an Elvis fan(just have a feeling). Her Steve urkle glasses don't help her case either.

[FightingGames4ever]

I'm a Viper fan!

[RevFirst]

Boobies or not, she's still fugly...

...fugly and an Elvis fan(just have a feeling). Her Steve urkle glasses don't help her case either.

I would agree but...
http://medialib.oxm.co.uk/screens/screenshot_3698.jpg

...Hell, look at Guile's expression.
http://i28.tinypic.com/3346ydk.jpg

But seriously, the only time I actually disliked her character design was the first announcment with that unclear photo of her offical artwork. My worries were gone as soon as I saw her playable, even from those early builds. I've seen far more "ugly"/unfitting characters in the franchise over the years.

[Slayzz]

^ Guile is hypnotized by Viper's boob. :rofl:

[AlphaDragoon02]

Goddamn, I know I said something already but...that new art style is like, LEAGUES better than the old one. It almost does look the like paintings now, with the exception of Crypt Keeper Ryu.

[CaliLifeStyle]

I would agree but...
http://medialib.oxm.co.uk/screens/screenshot_3698.jpg

...Hell, look at Guile's expression.
http://i28.tinypic.com/3346ydk.jpg

.

Those need Photoshops ASAP!!!

[True Grave]

^ Guile is hypnotized by Viper's boob. :rofl:

More like he's shocked to see her totally rip off Naruto's chidori with that move.

I would agree but...
http://medialib.oxm.co.uk/screens/screenshot_3698.jpg

...Hell, look at Guile's expression.
http://i28.tinypic.com/3346ydk.jpg

But seriously, the only time I actually disliked her character design was the first announcment with that unclear photo of her offical artwork. My worries were gone as soon as I saw her playable, even from those early builds. I've seen far more "ugly"/unfitting characters in the franchise over the years.

Please capcom please...give her a haircut & some contact lenses!!!!!

Edit: and tell her to stop watching naruto.

[VariantX]

Im super happy with the improvements they made to the game visually. Just looking at the shot with guile and viper almost looks like hand drawn artwork to me compared to the last builds. Its probably going to get even better from here on out too.

[The Furious One]

Finally! This is much better than the super clean and bright version. The paint filter really starting to make this game look unique.

[crazydiamond]

Please capcom please...give that biatch a haircut & some contact lenses!!!!!

Edit: and tell her to stop watching naruto.

What? Crazy hair is a Street Fighter tradition. Would you want Zangief to lose his mohawk or Guile to comb his hair down?

[AlphaDragoon02]

What? Crazy hair is a Street Fighter tradition. Would you want Zangief to lose his mohawk or Guile to comb his hair down?

Crazy hair is one thing...but it's a fucking bouffant. A fucking ELVIS bouffant. That's just wrong.

NOTE: This hairstyle does NOT look good on girls IRL either.

[AudioCG]

Snap!

Thats more like it, cleaner, brighter, alpha sprite meets ex2-ish, love it.

[BurningVigor]

holy shit looks great. Im getting used to Viper's design.. but still its one of capcoms worst. If only they would get rid of the turd hair. :looney:

[True Grave]

Crazy hair is one thing...but it's a fucking bouffant. A fucking ELVIS bouffant. That's just wrong.

NOTE: This hairstyle does NOT look good on girls IRL either.


FINALLY! Someone else gets it.

The Steve urkle glasses are stupid too, but the hair is the biggest offender here.

[crazydiamond]

Re: Vipers Hair.

It's ok for you to not like it. What's retarded is asking for it to change so you can like it.

Let the designers be the designers for christs sake.

This whole "fans input" shit is getting ridiculous.

[King9999]

if these screens were posted already, sorry for my lameness
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10203107&postcount=61

in any event, i'm getting happier with the more i see....

Got...damn... :wow:

Those shots are incredible! They really do look like paintings.

[poon]

Thanks for the new avatar

edit: and yes the refinements are looking much better. they need to devote a whole team to ryu's face tho. damn dark hadou's takin over.

[ringopan]

edit: and yes the refinements are looking much better. they need to devote a whole team to ryu's face tho. damn dark hadou's takin over.

ryu's face in the character select artwork is fine (in fact its pretty awesome and "ryu-ish"). they should focus on having his in-game model's face be consistent with that...

[Duck Strong]

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/ryu.jpg

I think it is more than just the blur and lighting effects but the material shaders themselves to be closer to hand drawn than realistic. This pic is just too cool :)

Steve Buscemi, is that you?

[BrentoBox]

Chun-li seems to have grown into a big woman between now and SFII, and I am not just talking about her thighs. She is freaking tall.

Looks to big to be doing the cute, "Yata" thing. Meh..:rolleyes:

[Mixah]

Ryu looks constipated in that picture.

[Chachi]

I'm buying SF4 just for the facial expressions.

[poon]

PSYCHO CRUSHER!!

http://www.igniq.com/images/flashlight_1290205.jpg

[True Grave]

ryu's face in the character select artwork is fine (in fact its pretty awesome and "ryu-ish"). they should focus on having his in-game model's face be consistent with that...

They need to STOP drawing Ryu like he's the damned Hulk!

Even when he is shown jumping(like in that viper pic), he looks like the hulk trying to pounce on someone.

Ryu looks constipated in that picture.

Plus his freakishly big feet.

[Mixah]

haha yeah. overall, it's a cool look, but not for ryu
evil ryu, then yeah, that works.

[True Grave]

"Hulk smash Viper!!! Rwwwoorrrrr!!!"

http://medialib.oxm.co.uk/screens/screenshot_3708.jpg

[Tigerboi]

http://fightingstreet.com/folders/artworkfolder/artworkpics/sf_art/sfiii_art/sfiii3s_art/sfiii3s_fbart/SFIII3sfb_ryu.jpg


..........

EDIT: by the way, big hands and feet are part of the street fighter art style

[BrentoBox]

"Hulk smash Viper!!! Rwwwoorrrrr!!!"

http://medialib.oxm.co.uk/screens/screenshot_3708.jpg

HULK EAT PRETTY LADY!!!

[poon]

"Hulk smash Viper!!! Rwwwoorrrrr!!!"

http://medialib.oxm.co.uk/screens/screenshot_3708.jpg

Oh shit she's gonna do the iron man infinite! Broken! Ban it!

[pootnannies]

(and they have fixed the clothes clipping)

no they haven't. check out chun on image 49 in the gallery

[Green]

http://fightingstreet.com/folders/artworkfolder/artworkpics/sf_art/sfiii_art/sfiii3s_art/sfiii3s_fbart/SFIII3sfb_ryu.jpg


..........

EDIT: by the way, big hands and feet are part of the street fighter art style
Looks like Ryu has rickets in his calves.

[Rhio2k]

Looks like Ryu has rickets in his calves.

Well, you never see that nigga eat oranges, do you? always rice and fish. Hell, he has no right being that muscular. By all rights he should be built like a 15 year old boy...like most japanese who don't weight train.

[Rhio2k]

Dhalsim looks AMAZING here (http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/03/2331219473_83c6d629e6.jpg).

Damn...Balrog just barely dodged that.

[SSJGouKi]

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/ryu.jpg



:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[TrueSephiroth]

Everything is shaping up to be looking really, really good, being a 2-D Purist for the SF series and being a hater of the Cel-shaded when it was first announced, I'm even completely taken back by how the graphics are improving now, it's really growing in on me.

I didn't like C. Viper at first, however seeing her gameplay+the new shots of her, especially the one of her and Guile together, damn, that shit looks incredibly good. My only beef now, and up to this point is fucking Ryu, seriously, did they just take neanderthal paintings and drawings to use as a reference for Ryu's face?

The one chunbelievable posted of Ryu is just simply horrible and messed up, I just don't understand it, his character select screen artwork in SFIV looks great, but his face in-game needs to get touched up, his wide-eyed neanderthal expressions needs to go.

Everything else for the most part looks great, oh yes, love the backgrounds now, they look way, way better.

[Helter Skelter]

It's probably just me, but I'm sure one of those stages is African.
Like there's all those Black guys in Army Uniform, and there are giraffes in the background.

Or is that India? I doubt it being India though.

[Rhio2k]

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/ryu.jpg
This pic is just too cool :)

"Don't make me angry...you wouldn't like me when I'm angry."

[Don Mack]

Actually Ryu should look a bit wild, considering he has no home and just wanders. He should have facial hair too to reflect is living conditions.

[Taito]

Re: Vipers Hair.

It's ok for you to not like it. What's retarded is asking for it to change so you can like it.

Let the designers be the designers for christs sake.

This whole "fans input" shit is getting ridiculous.
You got a full picture of your avatar?

[TTZ231]

I spy Ryu SF3 fierce punch. NOOOO

[Vegett0]

You got a full picture of your avatar?

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/SRgame/SF4magz.jpg

From the SF4 Girls/Women thread, courtesy of kenjiharima.

[Taito]

Thx, Viper looks cool in that pic.. I dunno, I like her design but she's drawn/modeled kind of weird in the actual game..

[The Furious One]

no they haven't. check out chun on image 49 in the gallery

Lmao thats the least of the problems

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7963/1436_0015.jpg

Ouch! Straight through the chest :rofl:

Abel is a scary bloke

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7963/1436_0013.jpg :wtf:

[Jion_Wansu]

Capcom Japan updated their SFIV site and in the gallery are new pics of the game with a slightly new art style. More cel shady (cartoony). Check out the comparison pic...

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/evolution.jpg

Background characters seemed to have gotten more detail as well. I like the direction the graphics are heading and I am sure there will be plenty of haters as well. But for me this looks more like art moving than animated models.

More pics on http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4

I like the pictures on the right (darker ones). So which ones are the updated pics?

[AlphaDragoon02]

I like the pictures on the right (darker ones). So which ones are the updated pics?

The updated ones are the ones on the left.

EDIT: :rofl: at Abel not having eyes in that one shot.

[fallot]

I like the pictures on the right (darker ones). So which ones are the updated pics?

The brighter ones on the left. I suggest you check out the ones on the Capcom website though, you might change your mind about which ones you prefer.

[True Grave]

Everything is shaping up to be looking really, really good, being a 2-D Purist for the SF series and being a hater of the Cel-shaded when it was first announced, I'm even completely taken back by how the graphics are improving now, it's really growing in on me.

I didn't like C. Viper at first, however seeing her gameplay+the new shots of her, especially the one of her and Guile together, damn, that shit looks incredibly good. My only beef now, and up to this point is fucking Ryu, seriously, did they just take neanderthal paintings and drawings to use as a reference for Ryu's face?

The one chunbelievable posted of Ryu is just simply horrible and messed up, I just don't understand it, his character select screen artwork in SFIV looks great, but his face in-game needs to get touched up, his wide-eyed neanderthal expressions needs to go.

Everything else for the most part looks great, oh yes, love the backgrounds now, they look way, way better.

Yup Ryu is being drawn so wrong lately.

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

Yup Ryu is being drawn so wrong lately.

Yup... A lot of friends I've showed SF4 to, they like everything. The only complaint was that Ryu and Ken look fucking ugly.

[TOMA$$]

Yup... A lot of friends I've showed SF4 to, they like everything. The only complaint was that Ryu and Ken look fucking ugly.

you would think that after 15 years they would know how these characters look.

capcom needs to get their heads out of their ass. this game looks like they pasted better graphics over street fighter ex plus alpha. i mean with the super sluggish movement and all. they need to up the speed about 3 x and make the animation at least at good as third strike.

[AlphaDragoon02]

I know they're going off Akiman's designs and all, but seriously; Why does Ryu (who's full Japanese to my knowledge) have blue eyes? :rofl:

[Shining_C']

you would think that after 15 years they would know how these characters look.

capcom needs to get their heads out of their ass. this game looks like they pasted better graphics over street fighter ex plus alpha. .

sure it does :confused:

[Rhio2k]

I know they're going off Akiman's designs and all, but seriously; Why does Ryu (who's full Japanese to my knowledge) have blue eyes? :rofl:

Man, that's been going on since the near-final Third Strike art pieces started rolling out. Who knows why? SF in general has been ret-conned so much (due to characters only having a token back-story), it's not inconcievable that someday Capcom will announce some b.s. like "Unbeknownst to them, Ken and Ryu's similarites extend beyond their fighting style: they are actually cousins. Ryu was born to Linda Masters-Iwari, sister to Ken's father. She met her future husband, Tekatsu Iwari, during a business trip to Japan where she agreed to serve as hostess to a party thrown by Ken's father for executive members of the Garcia Concern. They later met after the party, and began dating during the duration of Linda's visit. Tekatsu was killed in a traffic accident a month after Ryu's conception, and Linda died 5 hours after childbirth. Her child was abducted from the hospital by an injured martial artist from the mountains whose heart was moved by the infant orphan's plight. He happend by the room as nurses tried to rescucitate Linda, and was handed the child and ushered into the hallway. His brother appeared and said "I sense enourmous potential in this one. I will grant him a small measure of my power to get him started on my path." Gouken intervened, saying "No! He should be free to choose his destiny." "A waste", Gouki snorted. "Very well...if I cannot grant a boon, then I'll grant a curse! This boy will never get laid, and if he does, he will die." Gouken softened the outrageously evil curse. "I proclaim that with the boon I now grant, he will not die, but sleep until awakened by true love's kiss." Gouki, denied his petty mischief, snarled and vanished in a flash of tainted ki, leaving Gouken to gaze down at the swaddled infant in his arms.* He claimed the child by pretending to be a relative after Linda's death was official, then slipped away with him while the proper forms were being organized by the hospital staff. And that's why Ryu's eyes are blue. Wakarimasu ka? Ohkei!" in one of those "Big book of Capcom games secrets and trivia" they keep releasing when they've fabricated/retconned enough stuff to fill such a volume.





*:lol: you know where that came from, if you're up on your fairy tales... I'm just saying that if Capcom published something later to explain both Ryu's past and why he has blue eyes, I wouldn't be shocked. I just got silly with this.

[Dander]

Man, that's been going on since the near-final Third Strike art pieces started rolling out. Who knows why? SF in general has been ret-conned so much (due to characters only having a token back-story), it's not inconcievable that someday Capcom will announce some b.s. like "Unbeknownst to them, Ken and Ryu's similarites extend beyond their fighting style: they are actually cousins. Ryu was born to Linda Masters-Iwari, sister to Ken's father. She met her future husband, Tekatsu Iwari, during a business trip to Japan where she agreed to serve as hostess to a party thrown by Ken's father for executive members of the Garcia Concern. They later met after the party, and began dating during the duration of Linda's visit. Tekatsu was killed in a traffic accident a month after Ryu's conception, and Linda died 5 hours after childbirth. Her child was abducted from the hospital by an injured martial artist from the mountains whose heart was moved by the infant orphan's plight. He happend by the room as nurses tried to rescucitate Linda, and was handed the child and ushered into the hallway. His brother appeared and said "I sense enourmous potential in this one. I will grant him a small measure of my power to get him started on my path." Gouken intervened, saying "No! He should be free to choose his destiny." "A waste", Gouki snorted. "Very well...if I cannot grant a boon, then I'll grant a curse! This boy will never get laid, and if he does, he will die." Gouken softened the outrageously evil curse. "I proclaim that with the boon I now grant, he will not die, but sleep until awakened by true love's kiss." Gouki, denied his petty mischief, snarled and vanished in a flash of tainted ki, leaving Gouken to gaze down at the swaddled infant in his arms.* He claimed the child by pretending to be a relative after Linda's death was official, then slipped away with him while the proper forms were being organized by the hospital staff. And that's why Ryu's eyes are blue. Wakarimasu ka? Ohkei!" in one of those "Big book of Capcom games secrets and trivia" they keep releasing when they've fabricated/retconned enough stuff to fill such a volume.





*:lol: you know where that came from, if you're up on your fairy tales... I'm just saying that if Capcom published something later to explain both Ryu's past and why he has blue eyes, I wouldn't be shocked. I just got silly with this.

so does that mean that ryu slept next to chimney?

[AlphaDragoon02]

*:lol: you know where that came from, if you're up on your fairy tales... I'm just saying that if Capcom published something later to explain both Ryu's past and why he has blue eyes, I wouldn't be shocked. I just got silly with this.

LOL, Sleeping Beauty. :rofl:

[Rhio2k]

so does that mean that ryu slept next to chimney?

No...but given the shenanigans in sf 2V, we can only hope that should this ever occur, Ken isn't the one who tries to wake him up. In 2V...he would try...multiple times. Then he'd express jealousy and outrage at Ryu not waking up.

Okay, okay, back to graphics. I'm just a fuckin' nut today. :looney:

[Poshib]

graphics look a lot better but there are still the facial problems, hair, and chun li's size. she looks like a freakin amazon, way bigger than ryu and she's a chinese woman.

ryu and ken should look exactly like they do in the picture at the beginin of the system menu http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/

[pootnannies]

Lmao thats the least of the problems

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7963/1436_0015.jpg

Ouch! Straight through the chest :rofl:

Abel is a scary bloke

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7963/1436_0013.jpg :wtf:

links didn't work for me

[MajinRyu]

links didn't work for me

copy and paste in Internet Explorer

[AlphaDragoon02]

links didn't work for me

Put two question marks after it, like this:

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7963/1436_0015.jpg??

Then reload the page once you get the forbidden thing.

[The Furious One]

yeh do what he says, works when you remove the ??

[MaybeMemories]

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7963/1436_0015.jpg?

[Duck Strong]

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7963/1436_0015.jpg?

Abel just kicked Guile in the soul, must be related to Chuck Norris.

[stb]

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7963/1436_0015.jpg?

Wow, Abel's nose has "evolved" too. It is ridiculously long. Almost like the little wooden puppet of Carlo Collodi. :shake:

[-D-]

graphics look a lot better but there are still the facial problems, hair, and chun li's size. she looks like a freakin amazon, way bigger than ryu and she's a chinese woman.

Ha-ha, yeah, Chun looks like she is from Amazon planet from Futurama:) Not tall. just GIANT!!!

[Mixah]

haha @ chun comments

[chunbelievable]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RBZmLzv9NKQ

What I think of when I see Chun's model.

[coco_j]

Wow, Abel's nose has "evolved" too. It is ridiculously long. Almost like the little wooden puppet of Carlo Collodi.

Well people wanted more SF2 style 'stereotypes'...

[Spinning Beat]

Ha-ha, yeah, Chun looks like she is from Amazon planet from Futurama:) Not tall. just GIANT!!!

death by snoo snoo!!!!!! :mad:

[kenjiharima]

just glad there's no more eyes popping out.

O__O

[Nokato]

Yeah, in SFIV she seems to be shockingly large than the shotos which I'm not sure really if thats ever happened before, the closest thing I can think of is 3s but I don't think she was larger than the shotos. She may have been taller but in this game she looks like she could put Ryu out. Maybe this is something they've wanted to do (don't ask me why) is to make her ability to fight with everyone else by physically making her look more "capable". To me its not so much as weird as it is visually jarring I guess. This is speculation of course, it could be just something they haven't thought about yet and don't realize how huge she is. Then again everyone is huge in this game.

[-D-]

I still think that this is some kind of visual defect. Reminds me of MUGEN with it's incomparable sprites.

[Sagatryu]

her forearms and hands are still too big, other then that I prefectly fine with the way she looks.

[SuicidalGrandpa]

So glad they went in this direction.

God damn that looks good.

Go back to TXB, you whore

[R-Jive]

wtf is this supposed to be ? http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/ryu.jpg

Zombie Ryu ? wth seriously.

[Dredhead117]

At least it looks a little more 2-D and a little less Street Fighter EX.

It honestly is a step in the right direction, but there's a lot more to fix before I change my mind on tossing it on top of the pile of EX games.

Visually, at least.

[True Grave]

wtf is this supposed to be ? http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/ryu.jpg

Zombie Ryu ? wth seriously.

More like Crypt-keeper ryu.

At least it looks a little more 2-D and a little less Street Fighter EX.

It honestly is a step in the right direction, but there's a lot more to fix before I change my mind on tossing it on top of the pile of EX games.

Visually, at least.

Judging from what we've seen so far, visuals & gameplay look 70% better than SFEX ever did.

[Hellion]

You guys are not going to believe this, but I just had sex with Chun-li.
No, it's not the drugs I'm taking either. I really did!

[Dredhead117]

Judging from what we've seen so far, visuals & gameplay look 70% better than SFEX ever did.

Well yeah. I mean at first the whole jump into 2.5d, and the 3-D modeled characters immediately make me think of an updated EX series game, rather than a street fighter sequel.

Not hard to one-up EX series, its garbage.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Anyone one know if the characters have "costumes" or color swaps for attire.

[Dredhead117]

After watching the 1up footage when we were first hearing of the game, Ono was saying things like "I dont want to see Ryu wearing a funny hat", so I'd imagine that we're stickin by the roots with this one and keeping the color swap thing going.

[terracotta]

maybe the real life karate guy who Ryu is based on was an ugly douchebag too.

[Celtics777]

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/ryu.jpg

I think it is more than just the blur and lighting effects but the material shaders themselves to be closer to hand drawn than realistic. This pic is just too cool :)

Jesus!!!
Ryu looks like an ogre/witch hybrid

[chunbelievable]

Thanks for the neg rep on a comment I made over a week ago.... solid bro.... and to quote you from the other thread...

"Jesus settle down kid, everyone is entitled to their opinion
Have you got sand in your vagina or something?"

Is it considered hi jacking a thread when I made the thread in the first place? Oh well, I am hoping people are digging the new art at the latest loketest.

[Hellion]

maybe the real life karate guy who Ryu is based on was an ugly douchebag too.


He was based on Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star fame

[Celtics777]

Thanks for the neg rep on a comment I made over a week ago.... solid bro.... and to quote you from the other thread...

"Jesus settle down kid, everyone is entitled to their opinion
Have you got sand in your vagina or something?"

Is it considered hi jacking a thread when I made the thread in the first place? Oh well, I am hoping people are digging the new art at the latest loketest.


I was just commenting on ryu's looks
Are you saying he doesn't look like a witch/ogre in that picture?

[Jimmy Bones]

wtf is this supposed to be ? http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/ryu.jpg

Zombie Ryu ? wth seriously.

Ryu came back from death, poor him on that pic......

[BEWD]

He was based on Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star fame

Now I could've sworn Ryu was based on the character from Karate Baka Ichidai, who fought a one eyed Muay Thai fighter with a patch that Sagat was based on, which the story was also based on a(probably exaggerated) tale by real life karateka Mas Oyama...

[psychoballz]

Wow, I'm really starting to get excited about this game now.

I really like the lighter shades of graphics, This one could be real fun.

[Ansatsuken-TKD]

ryu and ken should look exactly like they do in the picture at the beginin of the system menu http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/

AGREED!!!

[AlphaDragoon02]

ryu and ken should look exactly like they do in the picture at the beginin of the system menu http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/

For real.

[VariantX]

wtf is this supposed to be ? http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/ryu.jpg

Zombie Ryu ? wth seriously.

Well looking at the saving attack in the system i think its just a result of the kind of ink effect that was supposed to be splashed around in parts of the game. Ryu gets really dark then hits ken with it and now ken gets all dark.

[Bass X0]

Its Evil Ryu with regular Ryu's colors.

[DieDeadDeath]

with out a doubt sf4 is looking damn good. the animations are what really turn me off. they just seem clunky and static. very sfex esc. every 3d fighting game should take notes from tekken6.

[SSJGouKi]

Thanks for the neg rep on a comment I made over a week ago.... solid bro.... and to quote you from the other thread...



Errrr, what else is new? Just make sure you don't give any bad comments on MvC2. Or else you'll get neg repped like no tomorrow. Quite sad really. :shake: They just probably mad because only a handful of ppl players play the game. LOL

[Aqua Snake]

Man I can't wait for this game.

[catalyst_nc]

Capcom Japan updated their SFIV site and in the gallery are new pics of the game with a slightly new art style. More cel shady (cartoony). Check out the comparison pic...

http://twitchdesigns.com/sfiv/evolution.jpg

Background characters seemed to have gotten more detail as well. I like the direction the graphics are heading and I am sure there will be plenty of haters as well. But for me this looks more like art moving than animated models.

More pics on http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4

Nice comparison. I like the new direction with the art, especially in regards to more "ink dot" effects like they showed in the original trailer.

I'm glad Capcom is heading in a more cartoony direction, it just fits the SF series so much better than a realistic look.

I guess realistic and SF just always make me think of the movie game.