View Full Version : Dash Attacks...without the dash? Sure! Fun with Instant Dash Attacks
AlphaDragoon02
03-14-2008, 06:44 PM
Goes like this:
- Hit stick forward like an F-Smash/dash.
- A split second afterward hit down on C-Stick (dependant on Smashes being set to C-Stick)
The result? A dash attack without even one frame of actual dashing. Yay. This works wonders with Snake, as well as with Ike (who has a dash attack that covers huge distance).
They are also known as "Alpha Cancels", on the request on the people on the srkbrawl IRC. It's a pun on the people who name techniques after themselves on SWF. :rofl:
Pimp Willy
03-14-2008, 06:49 PM
This shit is epic for charizard... "DAS BOOT"
ViciousSLASH
03-14-2008, 06:56 PM
I PROCLAIM THEM ALPHA CANCELS.
Eat it Smashboards!!! WOOOOO SRK WE DA BEST.
Oroman
03-14-2008, 06:59 PM
Good shit alpha. It's a shame I can never connect to you :shake:.
Shinto
03-14-2008, 07:00 PM
Dude come out with a crazy name or call it like Srkancel lulz.
Torn Apart
03-14-2008, 07:18 PM
with snake you can add an UpC to do snake dashing
so that makes it Alpha Snake Dash Canceling?
with the alpha cancelling to snake dashing, you can do the upC without hitting the oponent! it ends up looking like a dashing UpSmash(Mortar).
video of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObVM9tO5cgY&feature=related
InfiniDragon615
03-14-2008, 07:39 PM
Goes like this:
- Hit stick forward like an F-Smash/dash.
- A split second afterward hit down on C-Stick (dependant on Smashes being set to C-Stick)
The result? A dash attack without even one frame of actual dashing. Yay. This works wonders with Snake, as well as with Ike (who has a dash attack that covers huge distance).
They are now dubbed Alpha Cancels, on the request on the people on the srkbrawl IRC. :rofl:
The fuck, you came up with this all on your own?! :rofl: Get back to job hunting slacker, if you have time for this you aren't doing it right. :wink:
LiftedResearch
03-14-2008, 07:41 PM
Alpha has discovered something SO USEFUL, it has...already opened up doors of opportunity for so many characters!!!
SRK WE DA BEST
AlphaDragoon02
03-14-2008, 07:43 PM
The fuck, you came up with this all on your own?! :rofl: Get back to job hunting slacker, if you have time for this you aren't doing it right. :wink:
Go back to working for the man, I'm playing DAT BRAWL and finding cool shit. :rofl:
InfiniDragon615
03-14-2008, 07:48 PM
As long as you keep making DAT RENT, we're cool.
Seriously though, cool find. Wish I could've been there.
Varial
03-14-2008, 07:54 PM
Okay, so I just fooled around with this in training and found out you can just DP+A and it will come out instantly.
And you can keep the C-Stick free for Wavebouncing. :lovin:
white shadow
03-14-2008, 07:56 PM
Holy Shit this is mad useful! I can't even begin to note the possibilities.
Meta Knight can combo a AC from his D-Tilt with ease. Rob can chain it on certain characters and Samus finally has some necessary speed on her ground game from her Zair Grapple Beam.
:woot:
AlphaDragoon02 Deserves InfiniREP!!!:pray:
AlphaDragoon, you are my new hero. Thank you for developing dat advanced tech. This looks like a part of that Universal Buffer System I keep hearing about, I like.
-=KOH=-
03-14-2008, 08:03 PM
The first rule of alpha canceling is, you don't talk about alpha canceling.
BaSiK_TeKniK
03-14-2008, 08:06 PM
Dude come out with a crazy name or call it like Srkancel lulz.
or just SRK WE DA BESTcancel
Oroman
03-14-2008, 08:20 PM
Jesus Christ I'm so anxious to try this out but my dad is still using the damn TV. I know this will help Game and Watch's ground game a bunch.
wafflemonkey
03-14-2008, 08:21 PM
well i think this technique would be best to do with diddy because of the low lag after his dash attack. I can see dash, shield cancel, alpha cancel dash attack, upsmash, fair, rape. wont make him top tier tho ='(
orochizoolander
03-14-2008, 08:26 PM
Meta knight has a good dash attack so this will be quite helpful.
*opponent does craqwalk*
*I do dash attack*
ALPHA CANCEL BITCH!
Daemonk
03-14-2008, 08:31 PM
jesus. this is useful as hell.
LiftedResearch
03-14-2008, 08:32 PM
Okay, so I just fooled around with this in training and found out you can just DP+A and it will come out instantly.
And you can keep the C-Stick free for Wavebouncing. :lovin:
This works, but you still get a tiny bit of the dash animation. Make of that what you will :looney:
Oroman
03-14-2008, 08:35 PM
Okay, so I just fooled around with this in training and found out you can just DP+A and it will come out instantly.
And you can keep the C-Stick free for Wavebouncing. :lovin:
Dragon Punch + A?
Shinto
03-14-2008, 09:41 PM
Alpha Have My Babies!!!!!!!!!
Srk We Da Bestttt!!!!!
Kang Do
03-14-2008, 09:43 PM
Wait, so it has to be down on the c-stick as opposed to any other direction?
Good stuff though.
ArcadeFire
03-14-2008, 09:49 PM
I just hit the other Analog stick sideways again..works for me. Of course Dash into Up-Smashes is great.(Ivysaur)
LiftedResearch
03-14-2008, 09:55 PM
this is't really a new techinique thougth this is just a variation of an older thechnique in mlee called fox-trot
Not really, Foxtrot was strictly a movement technique, similar to a wavedash. This is all about using a dash attack from a neutral position.
So...SRK WE DA BEST
Miracle Matter
03-14-2008, 09:58 PM
Sounds very useful. I'll try it out the next time I play.
Shade
03-14-2008, 10:15 PM
They are two very different techniques. Two different techniques, having similar outcomes, doesn't make them the same technique.
Shade
03-14-2008, 10:34 PM
look im not gonna argue because that gets people nowhere i dont give a shit waht a techinique is called as long as it works and i've been using fox-trot as soon as the game came out, but just to humor me do this. Tap foward to a dash and immedailty press a and then tap foward and press c-stick down record the results and make up your own dam minds
Hey man, it's nothing to get angry about. I don't think anyone is attacking you, or your view on the technique(s) (I'm not).
Shade
03-14-2008, 11:09 PM
Ignore it. Rep is really meaningless, in the grand scheme of things. Most folk with large positive rep just give it out for free, without any reason to begin with.
Pimp Willy
03-14-2008, 11:32 PM
Everyone's getting negged in the thread, it's just how it goes ; )
JoeMasters
03-15-2008, 11:31 AM
thanks for another free KO move for my Ganon Alpha:lovin: Itz quick toooo
BaSiK_TeKniK
03-15-2008, 11:39 AM
you guys better post this shit on smashboards before the idiots name it "smashmast3r444557cancel"...
xS A M U R A Ix
03-15-2008, 11:48 AM
Aren't dash attacks usually unsafe? I guess this might be ok for combo purposes though.
Pimp Willy
03-15-2008, 12:51 PM
you guys better post this shit on smashboards before the idiots name it "smashmast3r444557cancel"...
Lol, why do you think we dubbed it "Alpha Cancel?" It was clearly to make fun of tactics named after people who discovered it. See, we're just showing we have what it takes to integrate into the smash community!
sonicspear64
03-15-2008, 12:59 PM
Lol, why do you think we dubbed it "Alpha Cancel?" It was clearly to make fun of tactics named after people who discovered it. See, we're just showing we have what it takes to integrate into the smash community!
But Alpha is a better name for a cancel as opposed to DLX. Alpha is universally recognized. It's a letter in the Greek alphabet, a robot in various seasons of the Power Rangers, the subtitle of an SF game, etc. DLX....... yeah who the fuck cares about that. :looney:
LiftedResearch
03-15-2008, 02:19 PM
But Alpha is a better name for a cancel as opposed to DLX. Alpha is universally recognized. It's a letter in the Greek alphabet, a robot in various seasons of the Power Rangers, the subtitle of an SF game, etc. DLX....... yeah who the fuck cares about that. :looney:
DLX is the dumbest name for anything since well...DLX
Corner-Trap
03-15-2008, 02:42 PM
I know this is a joke on Smashboards, but lets please not name techniques after ourselves. Something like IDA(instant dash attack) would be more suitable.
AlphaDragoon02
03-15-2008, 03:00 PM
I know this is a joke on Smashboards, but lets please not name techniques after ourselves. Something like IDA(instant dash attack) would be more suitable.
It is a joke. I simply call it instant dash attack in actuality.
Daemonk
03-15-2008, 03:06 PM
Aren't dash attacks usually unsafe? I guess this might be ok for combo purposes though.
Depends on the character really. ZSS for example has an awesome dash attack.
ViciousSLASH
03-15-2008, 03:22 PM
It is a joke. I simply call it instant dash attack in actuality.
Yeah that is what I call them too. Instant Dash Attacks or IDA's for short.
Still they will be AKA Alpha Cancels for the sheer hilariousness of it.
AlphaDragoon02
03-15-2008, 03:38 PM
Think I'll edit the thread title, but leave the joke in the first post. :rofl:
RetroKid
03-15-2008, 04:09 PM
Oh man, this is awesome. Good shit, Alpha. This will help me on my way to becoming a Pokemon Master.
Lol, why do you think we dubbed it "Alpha Cancel?" It was clearly to make fun of tactics named after people who discovered it. See, we're just showing we have what it takes to integrate into the smash community!
SF community did it first; Valle CC, Choiversal, etc.
maximuspita
03-15-2008, 04:39 PM
Great find. This will certainly be used by my friend. Instant Sheik Dash attacks without the F-smash buffering in? Too good.
sonicspear64
03-15-2008, 05:19 PM
Thanks to this, I just realized that you can do down tilts by holding down and flicking down on the C-stick. The same goes for up tilts. I guess something like this has been around since Melee.... :rofl:
Tigerboi
03-15-2008, 06:05 PM
This makes wolf stupid.
Henaki
03-15-2008, 06:16 PM
just call it a dashsmash you heathens
kureransu
03-16-2008, 08:09 AM
did anyone notice that if you do this technique with the fsmash it kinda works like a kara smash? Also, i don't know how effective this will be but if you do the bsmash then kinda works like a reverse kara smash. you turn around when you do the smash, but you still slide the way you were facing. i don't think it gives you enough distance to be out of range, but i thought i would share anyway
EDIT:
I don't know why i didn't try this but dash backwards and fsmash also works
TheDarkPhoenix
03-16-2008, 09:00 AM
Wow, I been doing this with Kirby all along and didn't even notice it was something out the ordinary. All this time i just thought kirby was a beast on the game =(
alphazealot
03-16-2008, 12:53 PM
Shrug. This is like, a day or two late. Someone posted a video on Smashboards 2 or 3 days ago about something they deemed as "wavebouncing/b sticking" by mapping Smashes to the c-stick.
The dash trick was found shortly after. Also, even Smashboards posters make fun of Smashboarders who think they can just name whatever after themselves.
//EDIT: Actually, never mind, roughly the same time stamp, don't know who found this shit first then.
Pimp Willy
03-16-2008, 01:34 PM
Pretty sure Wavebouncing maps SPECIALS to the c stick, not smashes
AlphaDragoon02
03-16-2008, 01:57 PM
Pretty sure Wavebouncing maps SPECIALS to the c stick, not smashes
Yeah. But AZ is saying that they found the instant dash after finding wavebouncing.
As for credit, it doesn't really matter much to me as long as the info gets out to folks. It would be pretty cool though if I was the first guy to figure it out. :smile:
Chiris Pantsu
03-17-2008, 01:39 PM
:O Wow. I'm impressed. Hot shit.
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