Active Thought

[Havoc]

OK...

So after every tournament, I try to learn something.

I had a conversation with a friend, and we both came to the conclusion that we had a similar problem.

We're able to come up with all sorts of gameplans for situations when we actually think about them (usually, after the damn match), but during the actual match, it's hard to maintain a high level of active thought.

Is this the case for a lot of players?

How do some of you all maintain focus?

As a side note, I was sitting right next to Steve H during CvS2 semi's, and part of grand finals at FRXI, basically coaching him through certain situations, and I was fully able to maintain an active thought process, and pretty much everything that I said (that he actually listened to) worked. It worked better than when I try to implement my own strategies....

Idk... shit is kind of annoying.

I find it especially hard to maintain a high level of thinking against players that I don't consider especially smart.

Anyone else?

[bobino]

sounds like u suck under pressure.

[TarkanX]

It's like watching a match video, and understanding what the players need to do and how they go about it, then actually playing yourself, and your mind goes blank. The best solution to this, is to keep it simple. Also, as you posted in the FRXI thread, to record your matches so that you can go back to examine what you need to improve on. This is something I want to do more of, and it is something that might be a good step for many players to get to that next level.

[Havoc]

sounds like u suck under pressure.

Nah... that's not it.

I tend to do much better against better players, than I do against, for lack of better words, average players.

[Frank the Tank]

I definitely know what you're saying, and I have my own FR example. Against SA2 Makoto, I generally try to stay the fuck away from her corner, especially when it's the only place I can go that could grant her a victory. Well, at FR...yeah. I sometimes tend to get caught up in the moment, especially once I get into an offensive flow, and forget that I went into the match with a gameplan, then I get parried and lose.

[Jimmy Bones]

Is this the case for a lot of players?


I guess its the case for a lot of players, we see people losing because their strategies are broken, and tryin to get and offensive flow and BOOM, you lost by a move you knew its was coming at ya but you lost focus. Really hard to get back to focus sometimes. Those who doesnt, they actually winning.

[4r5]

I tend to do much better against better players, than I do against, for lack of better words, average players.

Pretend everyone is Justin Wong?

[Atb_555]

Nah... that's not it.

I tend to do much better against better players, than I do against, for lack of better words, average players.

I understand what you mean. A good player will have a systematic process to how they play were as an average player is sometimes quite difficult to figure out due to their semi random nature.

[Mixah]

Nah... that's not it.

I tend to do much better against better players, than I do against, for lack of better words, average players.

you have the same problem as me. i can go to ctf and play with good players. at NEC, i was playing fine with people like sergio, darren, helgen x, the epidemic, etc.... but when i was playing my buddy lawrence the other day, whos' literally a shoto scrub, i couldn't fight him almost at all.

[kmasera]

then I get parried and lose.

this has never happened to me in ST :wink:

[tataki]

Nah... that's not it.

I tend to do much better against better players, than I do against, for lack of better words, average players.

that issue was already adressed a long time ago...
both sirlin and wobbles gave different solutions to this problem in thier guides. i'll edit this post now and summarize them for you, cuz i've found them useful enough.

solution 1 from wobbles-
when you are used to playing the game at high level, it can make the worse players seem random and harder to beat. the solution to that is to REALLY play to win in that situation. whenfacing a lower level opponent, and you try to play the game "the way it should be played at high level", it will be a mistake, and it will not be the most effective way to win here.
what you need to do is to learn your opponent, and change yourself- become the "antimatter" of your opponent.
if you're a defensive player but your opponent is weak against rushdown, for that battle you need to become an aggresive player. doing a DP in some situations is stupid, but if it is what will be working against the opponent, your habits need to change for the rest of that match. the match won't look like you are a high level player, but in the end you win so who cares?

solution 2 from sirlin-
why go with predicting and strategy when you can win without even fighting? find those "brick walls", those mindless tactics that every high level player knows how to handle already, and try them again. use all those day 1 parlor tricks, and it may give you a free win without any effort.
once again, you won't be playing like high level player plays, but you are here to win, not to "look good".

[COUM]

try to play people as good or better than you as often as possible, and avoid playing people worse than you

playing people better than you forces you to pay attention, whereas playing people worse than you too much will make you go on autopilot. i guess you could avoid this if you keep mentally reminding yourself to go all-out in every game, but personally i find that difficult when i'm playing a sub-par opponent. so i just try to avoid playing people who are worse than me for extended periods of time...i still do a little otherwise those players will never get better, but i try to not go too long only playing bad players.

[Maj]

I don't think it's good for the scene to avoid playing people who are "worse than you."

Half the time you lose to someone that you think you should have beaten effortlessly, that's just ego talking. If it's your own fault for underestimating someone, learn to live up to it.

A lot of people who use top tier teams think that they're automatically better than everyone else who doesn't have perfect RC execution or whatever. There are a lot of ways to win at fighting games and you'd be surprised at what people come up with to make up for not being able to do short short super. This might be your first time playing against "scrubby" P-Ryo but it sure as hell isn't his first time playing against A-Bison.

If you really are better than them, try to impose some artificial handicaps against yourself, like trying to win without using meter or trying to win by OCV.

[Havoc]

I'm not necessarily talking about playing against players that I think I'm better than...

I'm talking about just maintaining a certain level of thought, regardless.

I think I'm smarter than the majority of players that I play against (I know it sounds cocky... sue me).... I don't necessarily think I'm "better" than all of them though. That's my problem, and that's the issue I'm trying to handle. I play better against smarter players, because I don't have to think as much to do well against them. They just make sense to me. I know that I need to be able to have a higher level of thought to beat the "lesser" players, and the "better" players, alike, though.

I think that if I were better able to maintain focus and high levels of actual thought during my matches, I could overcome my other issues, and become a better player.

At the same time, I plan on improving execution, and covering up holes I have in game knowledge, but that's obvious stuff that really doesn't need it's own thread.

It just seems there's some art to it, that I just don't get.

[DeathScythe]

I dunno, I'm on the same train as Havoc here. Like, I expect a certain play style and a certain level of play. But when I fight some random dude, my brain just goes to mush because I end up doing TOO much against an average player. Sort of like at FRXI in CvS2 where I got randomed out by some random dude. He was doing roll throw and other stupid little gimmicks that I should have totally anticipated. It kind of threw me off balance cause I'm used to playing actual good people in tourney all the time. I dunno, I guess I expect everyone to be good or something because it's CvS2 and everyone should be above average by now.

[Iceman]

Havoc, you probably shouldn't have brought up the playing players of different skill levels influencing your play, even if it did debunk the stupid troll's post. You managed to derail your own thread :rofl: I get exactly where you're coming from. I also have a difficult time having "active thought" as you put it during games that I play. I'm just focusing on the game itself and not thinking. Sort of like I'm trying to read and react instead of predicting a few moves ahead like people do in chess. Get me away from the game and I start thinking "oh man, this is a good move, why don't I use it?" and "well damn, I'm a fool, if I had done this move, I would have beat that retarded strategy I lost to." I'm not really sure how to correct it.

I also know what you mean about the coaching aspect. People have a certain amount of thought they can process at once. When you don't have to actually put thought, no matter how little it may be, into pushing the buttons and maneuvering the joystick, that is more thought you can put into analyzing the match. As far as what to do, I have been trying to train myself into keeping my thought processes active while playing, but it isn't working out very well :wasted:

[GreenTea]

First, we try to learn how to play against high level players. Understanding the situations and the options.

We get beat to random tactics that shouldn't work since they are inferior, but we still do. Why is this? Well, like good tactics you need to plan against bad tactics.

Also one might have tunned their play to counter good play but not bad play which makes them rush to their death.

Strategy on how to beat tactics and play styles is something that shouldn't be done during the game.

Learning and thought starts off with lots of different thoughts coming together to provide an understanding.

If you havn't practiced playing against something, it will be hard to manage it in the minutes while you are playing.

You may try your best to concentrate, but that will not lead you to actually getting the boost in skill as you might imagine.

The best way to increase skill is to have tactics and thought processes secured before you get into a meaningful battle.

[Khiempossible]

seriously, all of you guys just need to go to an arcade and play scrubs for a day.

if you lose to a scrub, then you're a scrub yourself.

I can understand losing active thought in a tournament, but losing to a scrub in casual play?

it's not even about being a scrub though, if a "scrub" beats you, they can't be a scrub can they? They obviously abused some overpowering tactic (like roll grab) and destroyed you with it. Learn to deal with it and either beat him next time, or promote his status.

[OmegaDL50]

seriously, all of you guys just need to go to an arcade and play scrubs for a day.

if you lose to a scrub, then you're a scrub yourself.

I can understand losing active thought in a tournament, but losing to a scrub in casual play?

it's not even about being a scrub though, if a "scrub" beats you, they can't be a scrub can they? They obviously abused some overpowering tactic (like roll grab) and destroyed you with it. Learn to deal with it and either beat him next time, or promote his status.

I disagree. The difference between a scrub and a decent player is that he is constrained by his own self made rules and limits himself to play a certain way.

Just like as it is stated in Sirlin's article, a scrub does not play to win, He labels advantage tactics such as throwing and repeated spamming of a move as "cheap"

This is neither the case here nor is it the issue of this topic.

It's about effectively having a strategy and forming it in your head and knowing these strategies to work in actual competitive play, But when time comes to actually DO compete, these thoughts are not at the top of your mind and thus that strategy you wanted to use is not available because you are not totally "in the game"

Which brings up the issue of a randomness factor when it comes to playing other people.

Person A's strategy and play style, may not work on Person B.

Person A could easily be abused by tick throws, and corner Hadouken traps, Where As person B is not but is generally weak to another strategy against defensive / turtlers. This does not mean one player is necessarily bad against each other.

It just means both have a particular play style and when pitted against a person that knows effective tactics that prevent these strategies from being used it is basically forces you into situation in where you must go outside of your limits and do things you normally don't use.

For example I am a Super Turbo Ryu player, and my ultimate plan is to utilize Hadouken's to bait opponents reaction to anti-air with jab Shoryuken, utilize F+fierce / F+strong for the high/low overhead mixup game if they get close and to lead into a a tick throw to push them back into optimum range to start the Hadouken trap all over again.

My particular weakness relies my opponent to be at a specific range for my play style to work effectively.

But in actual play the game does NOT play to my rules. The opponent may know what I'm going to do on reaction and force me to use a play style I am not used to using, but allows me to effectively learn new counter-strategies to get myself back to that "in the game" mindset.

Just because Player A can beat player B, player C who is labeled as a "scrub" can possibly beat player A, does that make player B a "scrub" as well.

Not really, it just means player C knows something to beat Player A, but player B did not.

Not to make it like rock/paper/scissors because it goes beyond all of that, since there is much more depth involved.

[Jimmy Bones]

I disagree. The difference between a scrub and a decent player is that he is constrained by his own self made rules and limits himself to play a certain way.

Just like as it is stated in Sirlin's article, a scrub does not play to win, He labels advantage tactics such as throwing and repeated spamming of a move as "cheap"

This is neither the case here nor is it the issue of this topic.

It's about effectively having a strategy and forming it in your head and knowing these strategies to work in actual competitive play, But when time comes to actually DO compete, these thoughts are not at the top of your mind and thus that strategy you wanted to use is not available because you are not totally "in the game"

Which brings up the issue of a randomness factor when it comes to playing other people.

Person A's strategy and play style, may not work on Person B.

Person A could easily be abused by tick throws, and corner Hadouken traps, Where As person B is not but is generally weak to another strategy against defensive / turtlers. This does not mean one player is necessarily bad against each other.

It just means both have a particular play style and when pitted against a person that knows effective tactics that prevent these strategies from being used it is basically forces you into situation in where you must go outside of your limits and do things you normally don't use.

For example I am a Super Turbo Ryu player, and my ultimate plan is to utilize Hadouken's to bait opponents reaction to anti-air with jab Shoryuken, utilize F+fierce / F+strong for the high/low overhead mixup game if they get close and to lead into a a tick throw to push them back into optimum range to start the Hadouken trap all over again.

My particular weakness relies my opponent to be at a specific range for my play style to work effectively.

But in actual play the game does NOT play to my rules. The opponent may know what I'm going to do on reaction and force me to use a play style I am not used to using, but allows me to effectively learn new counter-strategies to get myself back to that "in the game" mindset.

Just because Player A can beat player B, player C who is labeled as a "scrub" can possibly beat player A, does that make player B a "scrub" as well.

Not really, it just means player C knows something to beat Player A, but player B did not.

EDIT: I agree and its sounds like a kind of vice versa for players sometimes. You dont actually know everyone's strategies. And you dont know wats gonna happen...

[Mixah]

i agree with the statement that OMEGA brought up. It's not scrubby to do badly against a scrub. i mean, come on... When I first got into MvC2 about 5 years ago, I was playing Sanford Kelly. I was playing for about 3 months total at this point, and although I didn't win, I did well. I had his Santhrax down to just Commando before he beat me, beacuse I didn't know basic shit like zoning and how to not be zoned, and how to play against somebody who's being overly defensive, as was in his case.

It's just a matter of experience. Some random scrub doing some random shit could just catch you off guard unless you're on top of your game 100%, in which case, you'd be a top player... Not every above-scrub level player is gonig to be 100% A game all the time.

[Maj]

Like it or not, winning a tournament means knowing how to beat all kinds of strategies, even scrubby ones like roll throw. Again, those people have gotten lots of practice against standard A-Groove top tier and they know what to do to mess with your head.

Anyone can lose a match in tournament, analyze the opponent's tactics in hindsight, realize they were ghetto, and declare that they weren't "supposed" to lose. The trick is doing all of that during the match.

If you haven't thought of a way to counter that gimmick, you deserve to lose. If you don't spot it in time and adapt, you deserve to lose. If you demand to play against a certain "conventional" play style all the time, you deserve to lose.

If it was up to me, i'd rather play Shoto vs Shoto all day. But that's now how it works out there.

Practice identifying your opponent so you know what you're up against before the last round comes around. Sounds like some of you guys are playing against the latest John Choi match video regardless of who's actually playing against you.

[Havoc]

That's my whole point.

I'm not trying to come off all high and mighty, and shit.

I want to develop my active thinking so that I won't lose to players that don't let me win on autopilot.

[NeroBishamon]

OK...

So after every tournament, I try to learn something.

I had a conversation with a friend, and we both came to the conclusion that we had a similar problem.

We're able to come up with all sorts of gameplans for situations when we actually think about them (usually, after the damn match), but during the actual match, it's hard to maintain a high level of active thought.

Is this the case for a lot of players?

How do some of you all maintain focus?


Anyone else?

Guess I need to stay and learn from this. And I do horrible under pressure as well. I can never keep my thoughts even though they were just there.

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

I'm at a similar stage myself. Well, I know how to strip down my game to beat the types of players you talk about (probably comes from my poker experience)...but I never spotted tendencies well while playing since it's so much faster than poker. I just recently became conscious of this and have improved a little bit, but it's still the main thing I'm working on.

Your coaching anecdote actually makes a lot of sense to me, as you can devote all of your thought to seeing these things.

Maybe you could frame it in terms of levels of thought, and create general strategies against the different levels. For instance, you could say that level 0 is the people who do lots of random DPs/supers and go for reversals way too much. Then maybe level 1 is people who block low (or high in 3-D fighters) almost all the time. And so on.

I'm no CvS2 player, so unfortunately I can't come up with any relevant examples for your game, but hopefully you should at least get the basic idea of what I'm trying to say.

Best of luck,
Josh.

[Emil]

Maybe you could frame it in terms of levels of thought, and create general strategies against the different levels. For instance, you could say that level 0 is the people who do lots of random DPs/supers and go for reversals way too much. Then maybe level 1 is people who block low (or high in 3-D fighters) almost all the time. And so on.

No, level 0 is people who rotate the stick randomly not even knowing what moves they are doing. The ones that play as if they are blindfolded. At least the people who are doing reversals, are aware that they are in a position to reversal (as opposed to the level 0 players I mentioned who don't even care where they are positioned, where the opponent is positioned, and what is going on in the match). At first I thought such people couldn't exist, but I was surprised.

seriously, all of you guys just need to go to an arcade and play scrubs for a day.

if you lose to a scrub, then you're a scrub yourself.

I can understand losing active thought in a tournament, but losing to a scrub in casual play?

it's not even about being a scrub though, if a "scrub" beats you, they can't be a scrub can they? They obviously abused some overpowering tactic (like roll grab) and destroyed you with it. Learn to deal with it and either beat him next time, or promote his status.

No. A scrub can get a win by just using something really illogical that surprises you...and they didn't use this because they were trying to surprise you, but because they don't know what they are doing (or they did it by accident). You could probably adapt to it the next match and completely destroy them but it's definitely possible for a good player to lose to a scrub, especially in the first match.

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

No, level 0 is people who rotate the stick randomly not even knowing what moves they are doing. The ones that play as if they are blindfolded. At least the people who are doing reversals, are aware that they are in a position to reversal (as opposed to the level 0 players I mentioned who don't even care where they are positioned, where the opponent is positioned, and what is going on in the match). At first I thought such people couldn't exist, but I was surprised.

Well, I guess I could see that. My example comes from Melty Blood commentary - when someone performs a wakeup EX move, they'll often say he went for the "level 0 solution".


No. A scrub can get a win by just using something really illogical that surprises you...and they didn't use this because they were trying to surprise you, but because they don't know what they are doing (or they did it by accident). You could probably adapt to it the next match and completely destroy them but it's definitely possible for a good player to lose to a scrub, especially in the first match.

Definitely agreed re: game 1 upsets. Once you become aware of this, though, it's easy to switch to boring strategies to beat them. I'm willing to turtle & run away even in casuals, but I understand that this is a minority view.

-Josh

[Khiempossible]

calling someone who beats you a scrub is just totally disrespectful. even if it's behind their back. everyone you play you should treat equally: as a challenge to overcome. If you fail, and write off your losses to the scrubbyness of your opponent, you're just being a scrub yourself by making this artificial rule that such and such player with some playstyle X shouldn't beat you.

Seriously, this i lost to a random scrub is such a bullshit argument. Treat everyone with respect, and you will never lose to a scrub.

[NeroBishamon]

calling someone who beats you a scrub is just totally disrespectful. even if it's behind their back. everyone you play you should treat equally: as a challenge to overcome. If you fail, and write off your losses to the scrubbyness of your opponent, you're just being a scrub yourself by making this artificial rule that such and such player with some playstyle X shouldn't beat you.

Seriously, this i lost to a random scrub is such a bullshit argument. Treat everyone with respect, and you will never lose to a scrub.

I agree. People who go by that scrub BS are such :lame: people. I think it is pretty dumb. Just play the game and be happy. And basically everything else I was going to say was said in the quoted text above.
:qcf::qcf::mp:

[Dark Geese]

try to play people as good or better than you as often as possible, and avoid playing people worse than you

playing people better than you forces you to pay attention, whereas playing people worse than you too much will make you go on autopilot. i guess you could avoid this if you keep mentally reminding yourself to go all-out in every game, but personally i find that difficult when i'm playing a sub-par opponent. so i just try to avoid playing people who are worse than me for extended periods of time...i still do a little otherwise those players will never get better, but i try to not go too long only playing bad players.

I perfectly agree with this...if I'm playing someone around the area worse than me I generally lose interest or go on autopilot if they aint interested in learning...

So I stop playing people not on my level if they dont wanna learn or get better..

I always play to win so yes I have this problem too..I fucking hate casual ass play and playing just for fun..doesnt suit what I am about..I always play to get better and thus if I'm playing against someone worse than me all I'm doing is helping them get better and using them as test subjects...to try new ideas out and stuff like that...thats really it..and all I get out of it..so I have stopped for the most part.

[moltron1st]

seriously, all of you guys just need to go to an arcade and play scrubs for a day.

if you lose to a scrub, then you're a scrub yourself.

I can understand losing active thought in a tournament, but losing to a scrub in casual play?

it's not even about being a scrub though, if a "scrub" beats you, they can't be a scrub can they? They obviously abused some overpowering tactic (like roll grab) and destroyed you with it. Learn to deal with it and either beat him next time, or promote his status.

Yeah I definitely feel what you saying. because if they are able to continually beat you with the same tactic that means they just getting over you....just don't get frustrated and take advantage of that shit! :smile:

As far as my active thought, I do usually get anxious when going up against new players back when I was really into fighting games...I was just real nervous thinking they would whup my ass lol. I don't get mad I just learn from it, but we all go for the win am I correct? Since I've been getting back into it, I've become more anxious now than ever...just gotta get my rhythm I guess. I never really played in any tournaments, just casual play (The only tournament I really entered was the Soul Calibur 2 Tournament back in '03 at Cyberstation in VA), but Dark Geese I can still get a feeling what you saying. Now I have a question (and I apoligize for getting of the subject don't shun me!!!:xeye:) but I've been trying to get back into it but I just can't for some reason...anybody got a cure for this????

[Dark Geese]

Yeah I definitely feel what you saying. because if they are able to continually beat you with the same tactic that means they just getting over you....just don't get frustrated and take advantage of that shit! :smile:

As far as my active thought, I do usually get anxious when going up against new players back when I was really into fighting games...I was just real nervous thinking they would whup my ass lol. I don't get mad I just learn from it, but we all go for the win am I correct? Since I've been getting back into it, I've become more anxious now than ever...just gotta get my rhythm I guess. I never really played in any tournaments, just casual play (The only tournament I really entered was the Soul Calibur 2 Tournament back in '03 at Cyberstation in VA), but Dark Geese I can still get a feeling what you saying. Now I have a question (and I apoligize for getting of the subject don't shun me!!!:xeye:) but I've been trying to get back into it but I just can't for some reason...anybody got a cure for this????


Go to EVO World this year..that'll get you back into it I assure you..you'll meet me and others and see some crazy things that will give you that desire back..

Its why I hate being home for such long periods of time..NO COMPETITION..no satisfaction..nothing satisfies me at home...

[moltron1st]

Go to EVO World this year..that'll get you back into it I assure you..you'll meet me and others and see some crazy things that will give you that desire back..

Its why I hate being home for such long periods of time..NO COMPETITION..no satisfaction..nothing satisfies me at home...

Yeah I feel you....I play against my nephew but he honestly doesnt know too much about fighting games :lol:. And everytime I hear about a gathering around here I either have to work or I have drill...and since I'm starting school for music production in the next couple of weeks I'ma be crazy busy...just gonna have to make time I guess hahahaha.

Ooooo EVO...hopefully if I don't have drill or work then I'd be glad to go! Been wanting to go for awhile now. And you right about seeing other folks playing and getting hyped up about it; I just love that damn feeling especially in SNK games since in VA not too many that I know of are into them, Well I;m in Cali now so that may change :)

Been trying to get into playing with the arcade sticks too but just havent had the time...plus it takes alot of muscle memory like doing a correct push up lol

[Dark Geese]

Yeah I feel you....I play against my nephew but he honestly doesnt know too much about fighting games :lol:. And everytime I hear about a gathering around here I either have to work or I have drill...and since I'm starting school for music production in the next couple of weeks I'ma be crazy busy...just gonna have to make time I guess hahahaha.

Ooooo EVO...hopefully if I don't have drill or work then I'd be glad to go! Been wanting to go for awhile now. And you right about seeing other folks playing and getting hyped up about it; I just love that damn feeling especially in SNK games since in VA not too many that I know of are into them, Well I;m in Cali now so that may change :)

Been trying to get into playing with the arcade sticks too but just havent had the time...plus it takes alot of muscle memory like doing a correct push up lol

Well yeah you are in a porno hotspot..but going to Las Vegas shouldnt be too far for you in Cali..trust me it'll be worth your while and will give you all the hype you need..because shit I gotta train on my own here at home (until I go to Mexico) and believe me that aint fun...

[final_cut]

You know, I have this exact same problem, maintaining my thought process throughout the match. It's gotten worse as I've gotten older. Back when Super Turbo wasn't so old, I was in arcades all the time, playing against randoms and enthusiasts alike. Arcades always had plenty of new people to play, so it was easier to get in the habit of adjusting to an apponent as you played them. But more recently, as I've gotten back into the FGC, I've found myself just zoning out completely, just playing and not even thinking about what I'm doing.
Find an opening, do a combo.
Find an opening, do a combo.
It's really bad. Maybe it's because I'm losing interest, or maybe it's because I only get to play people at fighting games when I go to tournaments, because I sure as heck don't have any local ST/3s competition. Training mode will only last so long for me. Or....maybe I should be on adderal when I play these things.

[moltron1st]

Well yeah you are in a porno hotspot..but going to Las Vegas shouldnt be too far for you in Cali..trust me it'll be worth your while and will give you all the hype you need..because shit I gotta train on my own here at home (until I go to Mexico) and believe me that aint fun...

Oh yeah I keep forgetting that I am in the porno capital lol. So everyone's so damn spread out anyway. But yeah I'll probably end up goin to EVO with a couple of other friends from VA.

For now...back to Breakers' Revenge! Lmao

[moltron1st]

You know, I have this exact same problem, maintaining my thought process throughout the match. It's gotten worse as I've gotten older. Back when Super Turbo wasn't so old, I was in arcades all the time, playing against randoms and enthusiasts alike. Arcades always had plenty of new people to play, so it was easier to get in the habit of adjusting to an apponent as you played them. But more recently, as I've gotten back into the FGC, I've found myself just zoning out completely, just playing and not even thinking about what I'm doing.
Find an opening, do a combo.
Find an opening, do a combo.
It's really bad. Maybe it's because I'm losing interest, or maybe it's because I only get to play people at fighting games when I go to tournaments, because I sure as heck don't have any local ST/3s competition. Training mode will only last so long for me. Or....maybe I should be on adderal when I play these things.

Adderal is the shit! Oops...I didnt say that out loud did I? lol I get what ya saying...I'm trying to keep my interest as well. I was like 9 or 10 years old and I would go to the arcades with my cousin and you just see all these folks playing all these fighting games...that was all that was in the arcades back then as well. And it just got me hyped up just watching folks...now its more like "aww do I have to practice again" instead of "I'ma learn how to play with this character next"..I mean thats what it is for me anyway. Or maybe I'm just growing out of it...I need to go to EVO lol