Cabinet layout, which would you prefer...

[Yeah Dood 120%]

...the Japanese Style with Ball Top (Square or Octagon gate), convex buttons with Japanese button layout or American Style P360 with Bat Top, concave buttons and American button Layout.

Just curious about this. A lot of people I know (and myself included) have there own custom made sticks and prefer the Ball Top + Japanese button layout and would prefer if our arcades stuck with it rather than the P360 + American button layout.

:wonder: Anyways, just cast your vote and lets see what everyone here prefers... dood.

[JackHound214D]

Ball Top, Jap button layout.

[goodm0urning]

American style, but convex buttons. I actually haven't seen concave buttons in an American arcade in a long time.

[Jimmy Bones]

Jap cab layout.

[Mechanica]

American style, but convex buttons. I actually haven't seen concave buttons in an American arcade in a long time.

And I've never seen convex buttons at an arcade. :wonder:

I prefer japanese style so much so that I don't go play third strike in Seattle because it's a shitty american layout. I'm a total hater and I hate american bat top sticks, but really the biggest part is just the fucking american button layout. On top of that, it's not just the rectangle layout, it's the spacing of the buttons. I could play fine on that literal layout if only the buttons didn't have like a finger's width between each one.

[XEN MASTER MARK]

If I had to choose, I'd say I prefer the Japanese layout. I've tried both and if I'm honest, I don't have a problem with the differences, or switching between them. That is to say that I'm equally bad on both :lol:

[Sileighty]

Japanese layout by far. Every time I head to the arcade to play before classes, it just feels so weird to play on the American layout and sticks.

[True Grave]

...the Japanese Style with Ball Top (Square or Octagon gate), convex buttons with Japanese button layout or American Style P360 with Bat Top, concave buttons and American button Layout.

Just curious about this. A lot of people I know (and myself included) have there own custom made sticks and prefer the Ball Top + Japanese button layout and would prefer if our arcades stuck with it rather than the P360 + American button layout.

:wonder: Anyways, just cast your vote and lets see what everyone here prefers... dood.

American style. Which means Happ competition stick, and CONVEX Happ comp buttons.

[2BAD4U]

Wouldn't having a ps2 input on the cab be cool?
I mean for personal sticks... :P

[pc1x1]

.the Japanese Style with Ball Top (Square or Octagon gate), for sure.

[CptMunta]

Aussie MCA sticks,

Awwww yeah!

[ShinjiGohan]

check the MWC thread, no one wants to play on a cabinet. This question would go far better if it was a custom controller layout.

[SlothHands]

Can't stand the ball top.

[Fulaani]

all jap

[TheSix]

Can't stand the ball top.

What he said.

-1 for ball tops.

Buttons don't matter that much, but I would prefer them straight.

[NevermoreRC]

I'd have to say American right now, as that's the setup I've had more experience with.

I bought a Hori stick for my 360 recently, and even though that's not really authentic, that's as close to a Japanese style stick I've played with. It takes a little getting used to at first.

Buttons? Ehh, no preference.

[clue2025]

Ball top with concave buttons for me. Could never get used to the baseball bat stick. And i like how my fingers kinda just rest in the concave instead of some fingers straining to be in a straight line.

[Mixah]

japanese buttons and layout with an american stick. honestly, i fucking HATE sanwa/seimitsu sticks. I feel like i'm playing with a toy. give me a p360 with light spring, or better yet, a wico 360 or competition with a light spring with a japanese layout. that'd be awesome

you know what else would be awesome? each side of the cabinet had two sticks you can play with so each player could choose japanese or american (each cabinet is only one player, like the virtua fighter cabs, right?)

[str[e]ak]

for me, japanese button layout is a must. i have small hands, so a lot of times, i have trouble pressing / reaching buttons comfortably on the american layout. i don't really have a preference for sticks; i can play on both styles.

[ZZ Stylez]

Wouldn't having a ps2 input on the cab be cool?
I mean for personal sticks... :P

I agree with you. They should have a ps2 input on the cabinet like Tekken. :D

[Captain Ryu]

I can't believe how many more people like japanese sticks over american ones. I thought it would be a little more even lol.

I actually prefer a hard spring 360 stick over everything unless I'm playing a 3d fighter or something. I'm really no good on japanese sticks at all, they just feel too small and loose for me. I have a hard time doing supers quickly and just can't maneuver as good.

The buttons on japanese sticks are awesome though.

[Chachi]

I'll play on whatever, as long as the stick doesn't come loose when I'm playing...

[Superking]

I'll play on whatever, as long as the stick doesn't come loose when I'm playing...

^^^^

[VEGA_OMEGA]

P360's & sanwa buttons. BLAM.

[Darklightjg1]

I'll play on whatever, as long as the stick doesn't come loose when I'm playing...

Pretty much my sentiment as well.

[-D-]

Japanese style sticks and buttons. Pro hardware for pro players!

[baby jesus]

all sanwa parts

[UltraDavid]

Oh get off Japan's nuts, ya douches.

[buyproduct]

I like semitsu parts myself. They feel like they are in between Happs and Sanwa's in sensitivity. I prefer the american layout over the japanese one. So I want japanese parts with an american layout.

[DevilJin 01]

So to stop this thread from riding the Japanese train I'll also say that I would like Sanwa or Seimetsu parts. Either that or put in a PS2 port so I can hook up my custom Sanwa. Japan FTW. I don't have a problem with US parts. I prefer a soft spring comp but I know some peepz like those hard Arnold spring sticks.

[hold dat]

ps2 port so i can use my trusty ps2 pad....:lame:


no...really id be the only scrub at CTF using a pad lol

[10x]

Why are people being such dicks about their personal preference? As if there's a right answer or something. I grew up playing on american sticks like a lot of you, but the console warriors now outnumber the arcade warriors. It's just a fact.

I don't think that either kind of stick would detract from the player base, but I would definitely 2nd the notion of there being some sort of controller port for ps2 pads.

I don't really care what kind of sticks there are, as long as they're not horribly stiff. I HATE sticks with tight springs, why should I have to shake the fucking cabinet everytime I wanna do a fireball? Also, don't like p360s and concave buttons...

[Super Homer]

I don't really care, but if I had to choose one it would be Japanese sticks and buttons

[gridman]

american stick, american buttons
jap sticks blow, their buttons are cool though

i love my mas <3

[R.P.D rookie]

I use to HATE the balltop but I thought it was cooler than a bat top design so I stuck with it and now I can't play 100% any other way without the trusty balltop. Plus you can get nifty FRUITY colored balltops to screw on to the stick that have bubbles inside!


BUBBLES!!!!!!!

Why aren't you people rushing to lizardlick.com yet to purchase these?! That aside, I'd like balltop stick with Japanese layout of buttons. Button choice wouldn't matter for me: I use to hate how Sanwa/Seimetsu buttons would press so sensitve, now I love that and I love the springy feel that Happs bring and they have a nice sound. And I would prefer the buttons be convex. I could play on American layout but enjoy the resting poition of my fingers over the Japanese style. I also love the way I can hook my middle finger under the balltop whereas on the bat top after about 10 matches or so, the inside of my middle ringer starts to rub raw.

[SuicidalGrandpa]

Don't care so long as the buttons work, the stick isn't shitty, and it's on an octagon gate.

[HARD BREAD]

id like to play this on jap stick with octogon gate...playin sqaure gate is like tryna play SF with a sega GT stick shift :looney:

[Alzarath]

I'll play on whatever, but if I had a choice, jap stick/buttons thx.

[beatsofdevil]

American Sticks (don't know what they're called, but NOT P360s) and Concave buttons...but a certain kind of concave buttons...the current ones from HAPP are too thick and too deep...I can't find the kind that were only slightly thick and slightly concave...those are the controls where my execution is 100%, but I can't find them anywhere and don't know what they're called for custom sticks :[

[EvilSamurai]

^
There are two types of Happ/IL concave buttons: "Ultimate" and "Horizontal." Ultimates have a vertical microswitch and Horizontals have a horizontal one of course. They both have concave plungers. Happ Competition/IL Convex buttons have a convex plunger with a horizontal microswitch.

I myself will play on any of the following joysticks: IL Comp, new Happ Super (when it still has its diagonals intact), any Sanwa, any Seimitsu, and most Korean sticks. All I require is that the stick have microswitches (it must fucking clicks. I hate P360s and Sanwa/ASCII Flashes), be a name brand (no shitty Chinese knockoffs), and not suck (no Happ Chinese Comps, Ultimates, or P360s). I prefer Japanese joysticks though as they tend to work correctly more often than American ones no homo/no innuendo.

For buttons I don't really care and am willing to play on Happ convex, Sanwa, Seimitsu, or Crown buttons arranged in the American or Japanese layout but not with either layout messed up. I hate it when there is like an inch between each column of American buttons or the Japanese button layout is like a foot away from the stick meaning you have to contort your hand in a funny shape.

[beatsofdevil]

^
There are two types of Happ/IL concave buttons: "Ultimate" and "Horizontal." Ultimates have a vertical microswitch and Horizontals have a horizontal one of course. They both have concave plungers. Happ Competition/IL Convex buttons have a convex plunger with a horizontal microswitch.

I myself will play on any of the following joysticks: IL Comp, new Happ Super (when it still has its diagonals intact), any Sanwa, any Seimitsu, and most Korean sticks. All I require is that the stick have microswitches (it must fucking clicks. I hate P360s and Sanwa/ASCII Flashes), be a name brand (no shitty Chinese knockoffs), and not suck (no Happ Chinese Comps, Ultimates, or P360s). I prefer Japanese joysticks though as they tend to work correctly more often than American ones no homo/no innuendo.

For buttons I don't really care and am willing to play on Happ convex, Sanwa, Seimitsu, or Crown buttons arranged in the American or Japanese layout but not with either layout messed up. I hate it when there is like an inch between each column of American buttons or the Japanese button layout is like a foot away from the stick meaning you have to contort your hand in a funny shape.
is one any thinner, less concave than the other?

[AmbiguousCrosup]

I'll play on anything. I have a HAPP modded AE stick and I have a japanese cab. It's all the same to me.

[MidgetT]

id love to see the japanese layout, but those sticks are too fragile to put into american arcades for public use.

[Xnewbguy]

Preference doesn't matter for cabinets really, because you wont ever see an SFIV cabinet outside of Japan, honestly :rolleyes:

[Renesis_13]

I like them [american & japanese] the same, so IL Euro/old comp and comp buttons is fine with me, I can play with whatever Sanwa or Seimitsu stick the same so I don't really care as long as it works.

[Yeah Dood 120%]

Preference doesn't matter for cabinets really, because you wont ever see an SFIV cabinet outside of Japan, honestly :rolleyes::wonder: We have three arcades here in Fayetteville and I'm sure that the two newer arcades will get it. They also smell nice too... dood!

[Electricgrave]

Super Joystick, Comp Buttons, Candy Layout.

[Zal]

Preference doesn't matter for cabinets really, because you wont ever see an SFIV cabinet outside of Japan, honestly :rolleyes:

quit fucking shitting on arcades, its exactly this attitude that has killed the arcade scene in america. honestly playing in the arcade is probably the single most fun way to play, so yes, this is a valid question. I'm gonna lobby the shit out of my tilt to buy one of these, they have a T5dr machine so i think they could get a sfiv cab

as for preference, i like american layout with jap buttons and a p360.

but honestly i can play at my highest level on almost any stick

[Fulaani]

Preference doesn't matter for cabinets really, because you wont ever see an SFIV cabinet outside of Japan, honestly :rolleyes:
yea, except for the fact that you're wrong

[Jonathan Ingram]

I'd be happiest with American-style, but I could deal with Japanese-style just as long as the gate was octogonal.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

chachi is correct.

[ShinjiGohan]

quit fucking shitting on arcades, its exactly this attitude that has killed the arcade scene in america. honestly playing in the arcade is probably the single most fun way to play, so yes, this is a valid question. I'm gonna lobby the shit out of my tilt to buy one of these, they have a T5dr machine so i think they could get a sfiv cab

as for preference, i like american layout with jap buttons and a p360.

but honestly i can play at my highest level on almost any stick


maybe, but take a look at the EVo north thread and how many people bitch that the arcade perfect arcade games aren't on their favorite japanese hardware (cause we're in america) and they don't wanna go. Attitudes like that help even less.

I wonder if japanese bitch and moan if they can't have american happ controls in their arcades and their tournaments...

[SaDo]

how abot this for a shocker...

american in america

japanese in japan

OMFGWTFHAX

[Gumbercules]

american convex forever

[Roshihikari]

We prefer and are used to the Japanese style, probably never used the American ones... the Japanese ones are designed and plays well for Japanese games. It is the one that we use for SBO.

[ShinjiGohan]

SBO, a tournament that you will probably never qualify for and never have to play in. Much less any other japanese tournament or a japanese arcade.

There are more american arcade tournaments that you have a chance to goto (as well as american arcades) which would make your time to learn an american stick a bit more important than a japanese one.

[Roshihikari]

SBO, a tournament that you will probably never qualify for and never have to play in. Much less any other japanese tournament or a japanese arcade.

There are more american arcade tournaments that you have a chance to goto (as well as american arcades) which would make your time to learn an american stick a bit more important than a japanese one.

That's right, mostly only Asian people make it into SBO. And not only SBO, our arcades are all use the Japanese style one, and the tournaments we enter, even the small ones, take place on the Japanese style ones. I guess different sticks and layouts for different regions, they should have just stuck to the Japanese one for everyone.

[xJudas]

P360's & sanwa buttons. BLAM.

same here

[JackTenrac!]

I don't like seeing my opponent's spit whenever my Ryu cross up beats him silly.

[jabhadouken]

Oh get off Japan's nuts, ya douches.

:rofl:

That's far, far too often true in here.

...but in this case, I think they're right.

Sanwa all the way.

...even a bat-top. :bgrin:

[SNAAAAKE]

seimitsu with american bat top and sanwa buttons. and hrap2 layout..like DIZ ! http://www.imagehostplus.com/v2/usr/956/official.jpg

[EvilSamurai]

^
thats a HRAP1/T5 layout dude.