I'll be joining your community for Street Fighter 4 (most likely)

[Gimpyfish62]

Howdy, a lot of you probably don't know who I am, I come from the Smash community, I'm "that bowser guy" if you've ever watched any smash videos.

In case you are curious, check this vid out ;P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7z_sGTTQgY

Anyways, with the apparently doomed life that brawl has ahead of it I'm looking for new games to play competitively, I'm not expecting to be very good, nor am I expecting to take this too seriously (nor do i expect this is the proper place to put this post) but I expect to have fun and learn about other communities.

So... *raises glass*
Here's to Street Fighter 4 being a successful competitive game with a scene that flourishes for years to come

In the mean time i'm looking for a game to play that'll get me at least moderately on the right track, I was thinking about either 3rd strike or possibly super street fighter 2 turbo... suggestions?

[ThePunisherXBL]

From what I've read in the loke test thread: ST and 3s.

But more ST.

[Gimpyfish62]

more st? alright i think i'll at leats get that one, is the parry system from 3rd strike being removed or something? for the new game?

actually, i'm sure this is discussed somewhere.

Why the lean more towards ST though?

also thanks for the quick reply.

[Monte]

if you read any of Ono's interviews he's basically shooting for an updated version of ST.
Also 3s = zzZZzZZzZzzZzzZzzzzzZzzZzz...

[ThePunisherXBL]

more st? alright i think i'll at leats get that one, is the parry system from 3rd strike being removed or something? for the new game?

actually, i'm sure this is discussed somewhere.

Why the lean more towards ST though?

also thanks for the quick reply.

You ought to read this thread. (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=152113)

Characters seem to take after more of their 3s versions(Ken, Chun) or ST version(Ryu and everyone else).

Parries are gone. It sounds like having solid footsies and zoning is going to be a requirement in this game like it is in ST. ST will teach you all the fundamentals of pretty much the whole genre.

I just say 3s if you're looking to play Ken, and to get used to it's throw system and EX moves. But it sounds like a background in ST is going to be far, far more important.

[caliagent#3]

you should read the forum rules

[Gimpyfish62]

awesome, thanks.

horay for an initially friendly response.

makes me more willing to actually start playing with you guys haha

also, i CONSIDERED reading the forum rules, but i dont believe i've ever read forum rules for any website including smashboards.com and allisbrawl.com, which are essentially my homepages hahaha

[Raph_Stryker]

doomed, man some of us at SRK wont let that happen to brawl. It is good to dabble in other games, because when you learn to apply different things from different games, it usually gives you the edge in whatever game you play.

So good shit on aiming to learn ST and 3S, but never give up on Brawl, because believe me, ive gotten all my friends hooked on the game, and they are from a variety of fighting game communities, such as 3S, Marvel, even GG and they all like how Brawl plays. From what ive seen, doomed is far from it.

[JAMMAR]

While you're here gimpyfish can you tell us why you think brawl is "doomed"?

It's also a little ironic IMO cuz a lot of us here currently don't have too high hopes for SF4 haha

[ssjtin]

ST is a great game no doubt, but judging by the fact that you're a Smash player, you might like a smoother, faster game. Third strike might be better suited for you.

Better yet, watch a few vids of gameplay of both games on youtube and see which looks more appealing to you.

Better yet, get SF anniversary collection!!!

[Zandwich]

its like migrating from diapers to pullups, congratulations

[COUM]

super street fighter 2 turbo will teach you how to play basically every 2d fighting game on the macro level

from there on it's all in the details

[arstal]

You're wrong- I think a lot of people after that 3rd loc test have very high hopes for the game. Maybe a little unrealisticly high though.

SF4 will succeed if it manages to bring the 3s and ST communities together.

[Bastion]

just pick any 2d fighting game. they are all based around the same concept. spcaing, mind game, punish opponents mistake, rushdown.

[Gimpyfish62]

http://www.allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=3966

http://www.allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=4127

these are a couple topics i've made about brawl, which can VERY BASICALLY sum up why i don't think it will be highly successful in the future..

I'll still play it, but it wont be interesting or entertaining i don't think.

I'm also just sort of planning on gettting a grasp for multiple competitive communities, i'm planning on writting a book on competitive gaming in the future.

[COUM]

just pick any 2d fighting game. they are all based around the same concept. spcaing, mind game, punish opponents mistake, rushdown.

imo 3s is a pretty bad place to start, the presence of the parry means many important skills in other games (including skills that will be important in sf4) are kind of invalidated...

anyways, you should check the thread about the nfba client in the online matchmaking forum and head to #srkkaillera on efnet if you want to get started quickly. emulator netplay is at such a point now (i.e. 1 frame delay) that it's a viable way to get started learning.

oh, and you MUST check out these videos (http://www.sirlin.net/archive/my-street-fighter-tutorial-videos-from-ccc2/) too

[dj_de]

cool "that bowser guy" who plays a childrens fighting game is going to play another fighting game. good thing there was a thread about it.

[Keits]

Welcome, sir. You've moved from a single game community to a genre-based community. This, as far as your overall experience and knowledge are concerned, is a big step up.

edit - Play ST. Its where all 'traditional' fighting gamers should start.

[Gimpyfish62]

i love sirlin's written works a lot, so that link is pretty exciting.

thank's for the link.


melee wasn't even close to being a 'childrens fighting game' and anyone who think's so has no knowledge of the high level gameplay whatsoever

[Shinto]

awesome, thanks.

horay for an initially friendly response.

makes me more willing to actually start playing with you guys haha


Lol everyone on SRK are not dicks all the time.:pleased:

[TempestFox]

A game is only as doomed a you let it be. A lot of us are highly into Brawl, and no doubt we'll see another high turnout of Smash players at Evo this year too.

Welcome to playing other games Gimpy, I'm sure you have a lot to share and more to learn from us as well.

[Keits]

Perhaps you wont find brawl so boring if you play items-on stages-on excuses-off with us? ;)

[AlphaDragoon02]

Yo Gimpy, welcome to SRK (You might have seen me on SWF a few times). And don't worry, if you get flamed to high hell, that means:

A: You're a troll.
B: We like you. :rofl:

[Gimpyfish62]

well, i'm a friendly generally likeable troll* so i suppose i better brace myself LOL


*more occasional spammer than troll i suppose

[Raph_Stryker]

i say just begin to dabbling, and give yourself an introduction in your respective Area thread, find some people to play some ST with and get to know your local SRK community.

Introduction threads haha, im sure your little rep bar is having plenty of fun going up and down.

[Gimpyfish62]

i'd expect it to just go down down down because this isn't the place for it and nobody really likes intro threads, but at least i had a legit question ;P

[AzN_Skater]

Perhaps you wont find brawl so boring if you play items-on stages-on excuses-off with us? ;)

I love fun mode.

[Gimpyfish62]

competitive smash was fun in melee, just not really that fun in brawl lol

who knows, maybe items will save competitive brawl?

[Keits]

competitive smash was fun in melee, just not really that fun in brawl lol

who knows, maybe items will save competitive brawl?

Thats the fuckin' spirit! I like you. :party:

[WasFemto]

Seriously, ST is just a better overall game, and you'll be better in Capcom games in general for playing it(or marvel).

3S is cool to play with friends that don't really like fighting games.

[gozulin]

SS2T is an ok game, but you should really start with SF2CE, to truly learn the pure core of street fighter before you get distracted with glitzy Supers and overheads.

Truly feel the power of Ken's raw, non-flammable shoryuken.

[rastaman]

if you read any of Ono's interviews he's basically shooting for an updated version of ST.
[B]Also 3s = zzZZzZZzZzzZzzZzzzzzZzzZzz...


negative bitch

youll find out the 3s hate is strong wit these old dusty ass niggas

[Mariodood]

My advice is try both games. They are both easily emulatable now, and both fun games, no matter what people here say. Most of the people here who tell you which game to play between 3s and ST are people who play one game a lot and have seen a couple of videos of the other and make quick judgements based on them.

So try both. SF4 is loosely based on both. It's definitely not based on ST alone, and playing ST won't give you an idea of what current gen 2D fighters are like. Modern 2D fighters have dashing, stored super meter (most, not all), more ways to spend your super meter than simply a super, supers that are not ridiculously strong, and SF4 will probably have these things as well.

[Gimpyfish62]

i'm in the rare minority that actually cares about what is and is not legal, so i'm not looking to emulate a game that i don't own haha

i'd love to try both games, but i don't know if i can actually afford that if i intend on getting street fighter 4 when it comes out hahaha, i only own a wii (and every previous nintendo console) right now

[StuartHayden]

It's really weird seeing a nationally known smash player post on SRK.

Ah well, I've been to a few of the gameclux tourneys and you were pretty chill I guess.

Welcome.

[woof]

wait for ST HD and learn that [either version is up in the air]

[TheSix]

competitive smash was fun in melee, just not really that fun in brawl lol

who knows, maybe items will save competitive brawl?

Thats the fuckin' spirit! I like you. :party:

:smokin:

Thanks for all the youtube vids Gimpy. Watched a lot of them leading up to Brawls release.

[NotGood]

Hi GimpyFish, you were my idol when I was into Melee. :pray:

As for Street Fighter, definitely play ST way more than 3s. It's system is what pretty much all competitive 2d fighting games run on outside of 3s. Learning ST will pretty much prepare you from any fighting game.

If you want to play 3s, go get the Street Fighter Anniversary Edition.

For ST, you should look in the ST section of this board for the best port of the game.

It's going to be really hard for you since Smash shares more in common with MVC2 than Street Fighter. But I hope you hang in there, and knowing you, you'll probably get good in no time.

Now that your on these boards, I have someone else to stalk besides GoodMourning........:pleased:

[UltraDavid]

Where do you live? If you're in the MD/VA/DC area like it seems like a lot of big Smash guys are, I'd be happy to play ST with you and a lot of people would be happy to play 3S with you. No doubt that ST teaches you better fundamentals, though.

I think Brawl is and will be good, but obviously none of us can really tell until we break the game down further, and I don't think that process will be anywhere near finished for quite a while. If you do live in the DC, we can trade knowledge, Street Fighter for Smash.

[Gimpyfish62]

i live in socal currently, I alternate between socal and washington.

socal is huge for smash, no clue about other games.

[StuartHayden]

Whoa, Socal? When?

[UltraDavid]

That's funny, I'm from socal and alternate between socal and dc. I'm currently in dc.

Socal is the best place in the US for Third Strike play and has many of the best MvC2, CvS2, and ST players, although it's harder to play the ST players because there aren't any good ST cabs in the arcades anymore. Check it out in the regional matchmaking area.

[pdk]

if you want to get your feet wet then super turbo or similar games from that time frame (e.g. fatal fury special) would be good starts; st has plenty to offer but won't send your head spinning with lists of universal gimmicks or stuff like that to memorize just in order to play on a decent level

of course i'm probably a bit biased for reccomending SNK fighters too but hey, now's as good a time as any to get into them; kof98 especially has held up competitively in the 10 years it's been around, plus with 98um and kof orochi collection on the horizon for ps2 you'll soon have easy access to both an arcade-perfect version of the original and a fancy-pants update with all the bells and whistles

netplay is your friend as well; download nfba and ggpo, do some rom hunting, get it all set up and right there you'll have a bunch of competent players right there (and a few tourneys pros if i recall) ready to help step up your game through advice and actual playing

you could even dive into the wonderful world of kof98 with us through the power of the interweb ;)

[haunts]

street fighter players get so much pussy, you will be pleased.

[ytwojay]

Where in SoCal do you live?

[Gimpyfish62]

riverside, but i'm not against travelling a bit that's for sure

melee has zero online, so going everywhere to play is commonplace for me haha

[Mariodood]

i'm in the rare minority that actually cares about what is and is not legal, so i'm not looking to emulate a game that i don't own haha


Uh...I really can't say much without getting banned from this web site, but..come on! The police are not gonna break down your door. It takes about 30 minutes and the game is set up and you can start screwing around in arcade mode. You can't even really buy Super Turbo, there's currently NO arcade perfect version of the game except the Dreamcast one, which is funky anyway.

[KrsJin]

riverside, but i'm not against travelling a bit that's for sure

melee has zero online, so going everywhere to play is commonplace for me haha

There's gona be a big VF gathering this weekend in Riverside :D Could start a new game with VF :D

Honestly though, if you're in it for the money or the numbers in turn-outs, VF isn't a wise recommendation :/ It happens to be my favorite fighter but I realize it's just not popular here in the States. Yet anyway.

[arstal]

i'm in the rare minority that actually cares about what is and is not legal, so i'm not looking to emulate a game that i don't own haha

i'd love to try both games, but i don't know if i can actually afford that if i intend on getting street fighter 4 when it comes out hahaha, i only own a wii (and every previous nintendo console) right now

You can always buy the game (both are out) , then emulate for netplay. That would pass a legal test.

[Gimpyfish62]

where at? maybe i'll stop by just for fun. I'm taking a bit of a break from smash so this weekend i should be pretty free

edit: what's the best way to go about buying these? Isn't ST only available for 3DO or whatever it is?

[nasir]

Riverside huh?

I went to UCR, and still go on alot of weekends to see my gf who still lives there. There's still a few players in that area including pigadouken, ucrollerblader, deus, and some of the other rico/dipset peoples

[KrsJin]

where at? maybe i'll stop by just for fun. I'm taking a bit of a break from smash so this weekend i should be pretty free

edit: what's the best way to go about buying these? Isn't ST only available for 3DO or whatever it is?



^ Here's a thread filled with the info on it.

http://virtuafighter.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/199921/fpart/1

I duno how beneficial or fun it would be to you if you're not into VF already but did find it cool that it's where you live city-wise.

[pdk]

where at? maybe i'll stop by just for fun. I'm taking a bit of a break from smash so this weekend i should be pretty free

edit: what's the best way to go about buying these? Isn't ST only available for 3DO or whatever it is?

st has a whole bunch of console ports and the title of "most arcade accurate port" has been changing hands for ages, though that title's recently passed into the dreamcast port's clutches and looks like it'll stay that way until HD remix comes out

[arstal]

where at? maybe i'll stop by just for fun. I'm taking a bit of a break from smash so this weekend i should be pretty free

edit: what's the best way to go about buying these? Isn't ST only available for 3DO or whatever it is?

Capcom Classics Collection 2- though the ST is far from Arcade perfect. However, I'll also second the VF5 love and recommendation- IF you own a 360. I don't think the game is fun without online play, and offline play is non-existant out of a few areas (though DC is one of the hotbeds)

[Septimus Prime]

I'm a 3S player, but I have to say that ST is better for learning fundamentals and building a foundation for the 2D fighting genre. Don't get me wrong; being good at 3S will improve your game in ST (especially with things like tick-throws and mix-ups, since parries make it so that you either do those well or you lose), but being good at ST will also make you good at 3S and other games because it teaches you things like mind games, spacing, and stuff like that. I'd really recommend both, but I think it's better to at least start with ST.

[Giza]

Perhaps you wont find brawl so boring if you play items-on stages-on excuses-off with us? ;)To me its still a campfest even with items. I can bare it on teams but in 1 on 1 matches its just horrible. Its probably too late to get Evo to do 2 on 2 smash instead. =/

Nice to see you here, Gimpyfish. Never actually seen you post.

[Keits]

Its still a campfest, man.

You mean turtling? Yeah, i've never seen a fighting game where turtling was a viable tactic before ... :wow:

edit - i see you meant to say that its boring to play/watch. 3s and CvS2 are notorious for this and are immensely popular.

[Giza]

I will discuss this with you elsewhere, Keits. I am gonna start posting in the Brawl rules thread soon.

[crazydiamond]

Gimpy I was gonna ask where were you when SFII hit the gaming world like an A-Bomb. But you were only 3.

My suggestion is to start with Street Fighter II The World Warrior. That's what made SF what it is.

Man it's hard to comprehend such a thing. We're all waiting for SF4 and you've got the whole SF history to discover!

[WasFemto]

Just stick with ST. The other games are gross in every respect.

[Akutabi Gamma]

I also recommend Garou: Mark of the Wolves, most SNK players kinda compare to SFII in a way, the game is easy to learn and Just Defend just takes a little while to get used to.

[crazydiamond]

Just stick with ST. The other games are gross in every respect.

What are you talking about?

[Gimpyfish62]

just so you all know, i do realize that pretty much all of the games mentioned have a lot to offer, i'm just looking for what i should do in semi-preparation for a venture into the 2d fighting genre in general hahaha

[COUM]

i really wouldnt worry about emulation, capcom has pretty much demonstrated they dont mind by openly acknowledging and discussing GGPO on their website

[ellesd]

just so you all know, i do realize that pretty much all of the games mentioned have a lot to offer, i'm just looking for what i should do in semi-preparation for a venture into the 2d fighting genre in general hahaha

I'm sure you know this, but the first step is finding competition. If you can't find it offline, since you're interested in ST/3s (Honestly, I didn't read past the OP..) I suggest checking out IRC: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=152734

[Saotome Kaneda]

As nice as it is to have a celeb in the house, rules are rules. Take the off topic stuff elsewhere. There have been enough links passed around that I don't need to repeat them.