Metal Gear Online Premiere Beta

[Mr.hitBOX]

So far I've only done TDM but I'll try the other games this weekend probably Friday night after i watch IRONMAN oh if anyone wants to add me to there friends list my charaters name is LDX

[Canto]

Haha, yeah it's good stuff. Funny story: had two magazines down in the staircase on the Middle East level, guy gets stuck in it, Stun Knife him, drag him between the two magazines, pick him up to get his primary weapon. I proceed to pick him up again and he drops his support item, which was...

..more magazines. Dude was trapped in the staircase for a good 5 minutes or so. He was a good sport though and was laughing at the absurdity of it all.

Haha !!!!! That is damn funny.


Man, headshots are PISSING ME OFF.
I'm like right in front of this guy and he has an svd and i'm pumping lead into him with my AK.... he takes a shot and gets a headshot on me? Okay, no.. that is wrong.. that should not happen especially since he has a sniper rifle, i'm 3 feet away from him and have an ak-47 shooting at full speed. No.. i'm sorry.. no. That should never ever happen.

I'm trying to learn the shotgun.. its like free kills up close but you'd be damned if you were 5 feet away from anyone and they had a rifle or a sbmg. I want to level it up and see if its more effective.. but its causing me to be like last in matches haha.

[Septimus Prime]

Actually, there's quite a bit of lag-hiding, like with the old MGO. In many cases, while it may seem like you've been shooting someone for a while, he actually shot you first, and you're dead already but don't know it yet. It's kind of annoying, but it makes the game seem smoother on your end.

[Iron Claw]

I just started playing yesterday after downloading the night before (finally got an invite). I spent two hours getting used to it and this game is sick!

I don't know all the ins/outs/tricks like most ppl but it's still fun.

[laceysan]

I just started playing yesterday after downloading the night before (finally got an invite). I spent two hours getting used to it and this game is sick!

I don't know all the ins/outs/tricks like most ppl but it's still fun.

it takes a little bit of getting used to the controls but its hella fun.

I sent my request to the srk clan (:

and who's been on the snake sneaking mode? using snake is rediculously hard for me... you die in like 2 shots... its horrible

and another wierd thing i noticed today, I'll get killed, and then the moment I respawn i die the same death from the same person for no reason, is that lag or what?

on a side note, did anybody get that mgs4 bluetooth dead set?

[snakedizzle209]

Actually, there's quite a bit of lag-hiding, like with the old MGO. In many cases, while it may seem like you've been shooting someone for a while, he actually shot you first, and you're dead already but don't know it yet. It's kind of annoying, but it makes the game seem smoother on your end.

Tell me about it. It gets really annoying when you crack someone in the head, they kill you and like 3 seconds later you get your kill when it's too late.

[Septimus Prime]

it takes a little bit of getting used to the controls but its hella fun.

I sent my request to the srk clan (:

and who's been on the snake sneaking mode? using snake is rediculously hard for me... you die in like 2 shots... its horrible

and another wierd thing i noticed today, I'll get killed, and then the moment I respawn i die the same death from the same person for no reason, is that lag or what?

on a side note, did anybody get that mgs4 bluetooth dead set?
Yeah, that's lag. When that happens to me, I just take a break from the game and go reset my router.

Tell me about it. It gets really annoying when you crack someone in the head, they kill you and like 3 seconds later you get your kill when it's too late.
I think the worst is actually when you kill someone, and he gets to run around for a little while, so you follow him around, expose yourself to enemy fire, and then get killed by his team mate.

[Gasp]

i though the mgs4 headset is gonna corelease with the game?

[laceysan]

@sep: thanks for the tip, and dead people running around? i think that did happen to me a few times as well

@gasp:
i had forgotten lol, is it worth getting?

[Hyuga]

So we any closer to setting up some team games? Killing and getting killed by random people who go off and do their own thing is getting pretty boring. I can basically play whenever 6 P.M. - 4 A.M. EST

[Septimus Prime]

I can do weekday nights (and very early morning this week, but probably not starting next week) and weekends.

Weekday nights at 11 PM PST are probably best for me, since I have TV to watch and stuff.

[axeman61]

Things are kind of looking up for me in terms of funds. There's a slim possibility I might be able to get this by my birthday in november. All I need is the money and more than 5 games on the system I want.

If I get this, I'm keeping the same name I had in the previous MGO: Neck In Half.

Yes, I sucked and if you've ever played with me, I'm sorry for losing your team that battle.

[snakedizzle209]

Yeah, that's lag. When that happens to me, I just take a break from the game and go reset my router.


I think the worst is actually when you kill someone, and he gets to run around for a little while, so you follow him around, expose yourself to enemy fire, and then get killed by his team mate.

Or when you're fighting multiple enemies and you need all your ammo but your wasting it on an enemy that you already killed, but it doesnt show until you're out of ammo, reloading, with everyone else gunning for you. :mad:

[Dr. Stormlocke]

Sleep Mines are too much fun. I try to use my Fast Movement 2 to zerg the narrow alleyway in the Middle East level, and plant a bunch. It can take out a whole squad of guys if they're clumped up.

[Scotty2Hotty]

add me on psn and metal gear and prepare to get owned

renique45 psn

renique45 mgo

[KrsJin]

Has anyone else ran into a problem where a skill just won't hit level 3? Like my fast mov, it's been stuck all day on what is seemingly the final tick.

[Septimus Prime]

It takes a while to get past that last hump. Oh, and fuck assault rifles. Pistols are where the fun is.

[KrsJin]

Yeah finally got it haha, thanks.

Yeah I agree, pistols are super fun. But I won't lie, going up against assault rifles without pistol skill leveled at all is basically suicide. After trying to skill up pistol a bit, I realized how good I have it with AR2 or AR3 lol.

[Canto]

Like the new clan logo. Much better.

[Septimus Prime]

I've had that logo saved since about 3 hours after I made the placeholder, but there's a 160-hour lock on changing your logo, so I couldn't do anything about that placeholder until today.

[dbostick]

Got to be apart of the beta recently and I have to say I'm not all that impressed from what I've seen so far.

If I want to play something that should've been a FPS, I'd just stick to CoD4.

[Cable1096]

You have to e-mail and get a beta code to something to play this, right?

[Canto]

If I want to play something that should've been a FPS, I'd just stick to CoD4.

What do you mean?

A) MGO is not meant to be a first person shooter.

B) You're not making sense because COD4 IS a FPS, it's not "something that should've been a FPS". It is an ACTUAL FPS.

[erikstanton]

fucking school has been fucking me in the ass. cant play this that much anymoooore.

[Canto]

fucking school has been fucking me in the ass. cant play this that much anymoooore.

Holy crap welcome to my world !!!!!!! I've been studying a hell lot for exams this week. Yesterday I only played for an hour before I went to bed. Screw EXAMS !!

[TheRedCyclone]

welp, i finally have this thing so add me if u hadn't already for tekken.

[snakedizzle209]

Got to be apart of the beta recently and I have to say I'm not all that impressed from what I've seen so far.

If I want to play something that should've been a FPS, I'd just stick to CoD4.

That doesn't make any sense at all. How long did you even play the game? MGO is it's own thing. There are countless things that you can do in MGO that you can't do in any FPS. It's more unique than you're giving it credit for. Sorry for your lack of creativity, but your looking at the game the wrong way. Sure the objective is to shoot people half the time and you have the option of using a first person view, but thats about all it has in common with an FPS. I love FPS games, but if I wanna creep up on people in a box, choke people out, play dead, set unique traps etc. etc. etc. then thats what MGO is for.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

So I finally got a new beta key and I'm updating now. Is it just me or does this update seem to take a long time? Might have to leave it on over night. There's nothing wrong with that right? Leaving it on over night that is? I hope not. Hopefully I can join you guys tomorrow.

[Septimus Prime]

It takes a long time. There's nothing wrong with leaving it on overnight.

[TheRock-BoS]

When is the beta supposed to end?

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

When is the beta supposed to end?

I believe it's the 11th of May?

Anyways, I'll be online tonight guys now that I finally have a working code and I installed/updated, add me if you're on.

[TheRock-BoS]

I believe it's the 11th of May?

Anyways, I'll be online tonight guys now that I finally have a working code and I installed/updated, add me if you're on.

It's easier if you get added to the clan list by searching for "srk" in the Clan search. Once you get added, you can see everyone on the clan list and what game/server they're in.

[Hyuga]

I take it rank 18 wasn't good enough for the 5v5 competition tonight Sep?

3 days left! We should be all be playing as one!

[Septimus Prime]

Sorry. Work has been taking up a lot of my time recently. As for the 5v5, I only heard about like half an hour ago.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

It's easier if you get added to the clan list by searching for "srk" in the Clan search. Once you get added, you can see everyone on the clan list and what game/server they're in.

I'll do that tonight then. Been playing it a lot(put GTA4 on the side for now), and it's awesome, though the graphics are a bit "meh" for a game that was supposed to be a showcase for the PS3. Maybe it'll be better on release/single player. Either way, see ya'll in-game.

[Gasp]

those neogaf guys are sick
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/18764

(them vs the komani developers)

[Luigi-Bo 87]

I'm usuallu up for playing at around 9-10 pm central time.:tup:

Hit me up

[Iron Claw]

I can't believe I'm loving this way more than GTA IV! Too bad I only have until the 11th >_<

I get my ass kicked a lot playing with the high level players (I'm still lvl 1), but it's always cool to see how more skilled ppl play.

[Canto]

I'm level 6 right now.

Things that I want them to put into the full version of the game:

+ Way more customization options. Everyone wants a unique player. I haven't seen anyone dressed like me yet but I'm sure I will when the actual game comes out.
+ Fix headshots. Please !!!!! If they fix this then this game will be perfect for me.
+ Fix grenade radius.. Unless you're very close to the center of the explosion the grenade will do nothing to you ! At least make them do a little jump and take a little bit of damage when they are within the blast radius or something.. make it easier and give us more reason to use the grenades ! I haven't seen many people use them except for base games.
+ More types of games. This is metal gear online !! You know how many types of games they can make ? They can make a type of game where one team has to put the other team to sleep to win ! Or they have to make them look at the magazines before the other team, etc. etc.
Or even a game where you one person has to keep out of sight but you have to keep moving or something like that.
+ More weapons.. way more weapons ! The shotgun is pathetic unless you're 2 feet away from the person.
+ More types of skills.. and more slots when you level up !

Anyways, these are just suggestions, I really enjoy the game right now except for the headshots all the time.

Hey, the SRK clan is 18th ! We can get it much higher I'm sure !

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

I'm level 6 right now.

Things that I want them to put into the full version of the game:

+ Way more customization options. Everyone wants a unique player. I haven't seen anyone dressed like me yet but I'm sure I will when the actual game comes out.
+ Fix headshots. Please !!!!! If they fix this then this game will be perfect for me.
+ Fix grenade radius.. Unless you're very close to the center of the explosion the grenade will do nothing to you ! At least make them do a little jump and take a little bit of damage when they are within the blast radius or something.. make it easier and give us more reason to use the grenades ! I haven't seen many people use them except for base games.
+ More types of games. This is metal gear online !! You know how many types of games they can make ? They can make a type of game where one team has to put the other team to sleep to win ! Or they have to make them look at the magazines before the other team, etc. etc.
Or even a game where you one person has to keep out of sight but you have to keep moving or something like that.
+ More weapons.. way more weapons ! The shotgun is pathetic unless you're 2 feet away from the person.
+ More types of skills.. and more slots when you level up !

Anyways, these are just suggestions, I really enjoy the game right now except for the headshots all the time.

Hey, the SRK clan is 18th ! We can get it much higher I'm sure !

I just saw that too. That's not bad considering how many other clans there are, but I'm sure we could beast a lot more.

[Septimus Prime]

I'll be on later tonight (likely playing with the Sons of Kojima clan, since I get along with them), so let's get ready to kill some people. You guys should join in so we can wreck their shit. :tup:

[SNAAAAKE]

man..I am always getting murdered by random snipers :mad:

I might get on in a few..

[Septimus Prime]

GGs, Litvineko and YulBYeung.

D.E. = the best gun, imo.

[Dr. Stormlocke]

I liked that server we were on. Everybody helped each other out, which is nice when I'm sniping enemies who try and wake up their teammates with the Mosin Nagant.

[Septimus Prime]

Ingram is a friend of mine, and I think his clan consists of his friends, so yeah, it's a sweet server (except for whatever the fuck was happening just a few minutes ago, though).

It also kind of sucks that my headset only works like half the time, so I have to spend the first couple of spawns per match adjusting the settings. :bluu:

[Canto]

Lol, yeah team work is great.

Man, that E-Locater has quite a charm. I used it and headshot 4 guys in a row, I just wait until they come out, aim, and bam ! One shot does it. It's crazy.

[Hyuga]

GGs guys. It was alot of fun. E-Locater is all sorts of fun.

I'm YulBYeung, BTW.

[Septimus Prime]

That last server we were in was insane. Everyone was so good, despite no one actually having a headset.

[dbostick]

Is it true that the beta ends on Mother's Day? I hope not 'cause I'm really starting to get into this game and truly appreciate it.

My username for this game is DBostick.

[Luigi-Bo 87]

Ingram is a friend of mine, and I think his clan consists of his friends, so yeah, it's a sweet server (except for whatever the fuck was happening just a few minutes ago, though).

It also kind of sucks that my headset only works like half the time, so I have to spend the first couple of spawns per match adjusting the settings. :bluu:

Ditto. Like no one can hear me half the time.:bluu:

[snakedizzle209]

Damn I havent been on in over 3 days. Well I wanna spend the remaining avalible time with the beta playing with you guys. Hope to see you on.

[Septimus Prime]

Okay, so here's the plan I will start using come the first day of the real game: SOP Destab on everyone all day. No one's going to know wtf hit them.

[Dr. Stormlocke]

Okay, so here's the plan I will start using come the first day of the real game: SOP Destab on everyone all day. No one's going to know wtf hit them.

I'll back you up with some Sleeping Gas Mines. Hahah.

[axeman61]

Is it over?

If so, how were you guys' "final" beta games?

[Septimus Prime]

Oh, and I'm definitely down for making the same clan come the real thing. Y'all in?

[Hyuga]

I wanted to play tonight, but I was hanging out with some friends. Nonetheless, I'm def up for it again come the real game. And I'll back you guys up with some locaters, so you know which way to go towards their base.

[Snatcher]

I wish I could've got to play with you guys in this. But I was hella busy over the time of the beta, so I never got to do anything I wanted to. I'd totally be in for the SRK Clan when MGS4 is released though.

[Canto]

If you all still want me in the clan, I mean I got 20+ invites so I'm not sure..






LOL, YEAH RIGHT.

When the real thing is back on I'll rejoin.. and if you have to re-created characters then I'm def. changing my MGO tag cause everyone would bring up me misspelling "Kratos" from God of War when it had nothing to do with that. lol

[Septimus Prime]

So YOU were the jerk-off who shot me while I was changing my settings! :rofl:

Good shit, as I'd have done the same thing to you.

[Luigi-Bo 87]

It ended seconds ago.:sad: I don't know what to do with myself now. That's all I did afrer work.

[Septimus Prime]

I'm going to (re)drown myself in Blu-rays for a month.

Or I might get GTA. Who knows?

[Luigi-Bo 87]

Speaking of Blu-Rays, Sony sent me a letter saying that my 5 free movies are on backorder and should be here around June 5.:woot:

[Canto]

So YOU were the jerk-off who shot me while I was changing my settings! :rofl:

Good shit, as I'd have done the same thing to you.


Payback my friend.. :wgrin:

Yeah right, hell if I know if I shot you while you were not doing anything. To me that's a free kill. lol

[Ghaleon]

Well, thoughts on changes for the final?

-- Headshot box is way too huge
-- Headshots mean huge points = retarded. This is supposed to be a series that rewards stealth, but if you want a decent score there's no incentive to NOT play an assault/sniper rifle for HS.
-- Incentive to have a tranq-only character
-- Body shots do so little damage.
-- Better rewards for "assist teammate" skills
-- Control mapping (probably on the way)
-- Faster stun recovery
-- Tone down stun knife

I just hope the final FEELS like MG. I'm not saying the beta sucked or anything. The base of the game is fun. I just hope it feels significantly different than CS/CoD4/R6 by the final ver.

[DeathScythe]

Well, thoughts on changes for the final?

-- Headshot box is way too huge


This is really my only gripe with the game. It's one of the reasons why I really don't play it as much. The hit box on an enemies head was much smaller in MGO for the PS2.

[Dr. Stormlocke]

I was going to compile a list and send it into Konami later today, guess I'll use this as a draft:

- Rolling in any direction toward opponent while being fired at seems to result in an instant headshot for an unusual length of time. While this makes sense to a certain extent, I think it's a result of many factors including the head hitbox being perhaps slightly too large.

- Friendly traps need to always show up on SOP system. If you link up with the guy that planted them, perhaps an icon will appear above them (CoD4 style) making your chances of falling victim to them slimmer. The other option is to make it so teammates cannot be stunned/hurt by them.

- Taking ranks in knife mastery is currently a joke. Holding down L1 and going into the knife stance slows player characters down to a crawl. They are holding knives not dragging the Stone of Shame. Increase movement speed while being able to attack. Furthermore, while slitting throats is cool, it takes all your skill points to be able to do. CQC toss, knife stab is almost as fast rendering the ability nearly worthless outside of flash value. An unpopular option would also be removing the Stun Knife from all players, unless they have taken ranks in knife mastery. Perhaps unlocking its functions (secondary fire) and attack speed as additional ranks are mastered.

- CQC is currently both flawed and silly in many ways. If I spend my skill points on abilities that allow me to get close and KO/Stun my opponent, I should be more effective than those without the skills. This is not the case with CQC. CQC toss, Stun Knife Secondary Fire is the way to go. Judo chokehold takes an obscenely long time leaving you vulnerable and is rarely preferable to Toss~Stun, which takes ZERO SKILL POINTS. In addition the ability to disarm your opponent with Level 3 CQC is pointless when you can simply pick up your opponent's body and drop them after a Toss~Stun. Some CQC abilities hold promise such as Human Shield, which could be improved dramatically by simply having the player character hide his head hitbox closer to/behind his victim, revealing less of himself. Reducing recovery of many CQC moves in general would also make them much more viable. Finally the stun on all non-lethal attacks is perhaps a bit too long. Either globally reduce it, or implement a minigame which players feel they have a bit more control over rather than L-Stick mashing. This could be similar to an active reload in Gears of War, or a simple Simon Says setup that was popularized in RE4. I think it's important to note that to offset this change, CQC/Non-lethal tactics should be improved globally as well.

- Many people have complained about the sluggishness of the game. Frankly I like the speed, but I think there could be a workable compromise. Gamers have cried for a sprint function similar to CoD4. I think this could work, but it would be in limited capacity. Since there is already a stamina system in place, players could opt to spend their own stamina (a significant amount) to run a short distance. This could even be a skill who knows. The benefit of this, is that stamina depleting weapons would be more useful, though it's often preferable to just kill your opponent. You would also see players fond of sprinting taking magazines to read and replenish their stamina. Whether or not this could work I'm not sure, just food for thought.

- Reduce the amount of bullets it takes to kill someone when shooting center mass by about 3-5. Alternatively reduce the slight invulnerability players are granted after being shot by a little more.

- The cover system definitely needs some work. As it stands now it has basically just been ported over from the singleplayer campaign, which is fine when you're playing as Snake in Sneaking Mode. It seems like it exists solely to mimic wall textures with Octacamo, and it does a good job in that regard. For the average chump soldier however, it is nothing but an inconvenience. There needs to be an additional animation of a player's character going into cover, as it generally just feels very odd attaching yourself to a wall. Shooting from behind cover needs to be sped up as well. There doesn't seem to be much of a point to the system when a player can utilize FPV and strafe out left and right using the Dpad with much better results.

- Box spawn locations need to be increased.

That's all for now. I'm sure I'll remember more.

[Septimus Prime]

I have a feeling someone from Konami is reading this thread.

[laceysan]

I just realized during those 2 weeks, i didn't play a single person from srk... oh well, come june 11th i'll be online waiting to get down

[Septimus Prime]

Make sure you go to the community page to take the survey, guys.

[laceysan]

Hey sep got a link the the page?

edit: thnx stormlocke! i didn't know how to get there w/o the actual game

[Dr. Stormlocke]

got a link the the page?

http://mgo2web.konami.com/jp/community/?m=pc&a=page_o_top&resolution=hd

Can't seem to login for the time being.


Also is it correct to assume the official MGS4 thread here @ SRK is riddled with spoilers at this point? I checked it a couple days ago and kind of saw the writing on the wall.

[Septimus Prime]

Site works for me.

And yeah, don't read that thread.

EDIT: Nevermind about the site. It's down again.

EDIT 2: Nevermind about it being down. Use IE.

[dbostick]

I have to say that the whole process for signing up for a Konami ID was time consuming and unnecessary, to say the least. Why have three different usernames (in game included) so it can be complicated when you have to log-in to the site?

Why couldn't they have one universal log-in name and password, like everything else, to make things more convenient and "with the times?"

[KrsJin]

I was going to compile a list and send it into Konami later today, guess I'll use this as a draft:

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That's all for now. I'm sure I'll remember more.
Brilliant. I honestly agreed with each. On the last though, I'd say either increase the amount spawned or randomize spawn locations for the boxes.

There also needs to be points given for assists. Be it if you were shooting the same opponent as your teammate, to even holding one captive while another on your team finishes them off.

[snakedizzle209]

I could just be biased because of my style of play, but I dont think headshots need to be changed at all. Since MGS2 headshots have been a crucial part of the gameplay. So it makes sense for it to have an influence on the online play. Thats how you counter the auto aim and people who spray and pray. You deserve the extra points for them. Think of it like this. You may die way too fast, but at least it isnt COD4. A few shots anywhere and you're dead. Headshots are almost pointless (I still like the game). Headshots even the playing field for people with low life. You should be able to rack up kills through better aim and quick reflexes as opposed to getting slowy worn down by people spraying at your feet in battles that just end up being about who sees who first. I like knowing that even with a pixel of life left I can still rack up an extra 3 kills through headshots.

[Black Murder]

I went to eb games today and they're talking about some MGS bundle ps3 with dual shock... didn't know bout it.

but you cant preorder it... does anyone know a specific date this thing is dropping other than june?

[Snatcher]

June 12th.

[Black Murder]

good looks...