4th Loketest?

[Akutabi Gamma]

Clue from the 3rd Loketest thread, mentioned a Loketest to take place at the 8th this month; can someone confirm this?

[fallot]

I thought the mention of the test being on the 8th from Kunai(?) was confirmation enough.

[Kunai]

Yes, on April 8th, the Japanese Capcom blog for SFIV will notify the public about the next location and dates for the next loketest. It's been confirmed by several people already.

[crazydiamond]

Does anyone know if SF4 is getting more tests than a usual fighting game release? Or is it just that these tests are more publicized? :D

[DragonPunchPimP]

i hope the new fighter plays good he looks funny

[Yurinka]

Does anyone know if SF4 is getting more tests than a usual fighting game release? Or is it just that these tests are more publicized? :D

They're more publicyed due the huge hype. BTW, the next loke will be in a couple of weeks (no details announced).

[ElderGOD]

Anyone know when previous SF games were released what the location test sites were?

Maybe they repeat.

I saw some HD vid and it looked a lot better than the stuff I have seen so far so I would love to see the game in person.

[shatterstar]

I saw some HD vid and it looked a lot better than the stuff I have seen so far so I would love to see the game in person.
post links or it never happend.

[ElderGOD]

post links or it never happend.

Don't know if it was linked here or not.

Don't remember original link but this guy has vid and it's also in HD.
Not sure if lowered quality but much higher quality then the vids I saw linked at SRK.

Slide Show: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bZqr0-rSSnk&feature=related
Crimson Moves: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2nmh1mco1Pg

[Reno]

On the SF4 dev blog they stated that they were going to announce the next location test date, but because they're facing a "critical turning point", and they are really in the final push of the development of the game, so they're asking fans to wait just a little bit for a future announcement. In the mean time they got Daigo Ikeno to provide some sketches of C. Viper and her attacks, and they into detail about how she performs her moves. She's got jet boosters in her boots and her metal knucks emit electricity and all that.

The attack in the sketch is called the "Capital Punishment Combo", but how they're going to put it into the game, they don't know, but they were able to create such moves for SF4.

http://www.capcom-fc.com/sf4/2008/04/post_20.html

[Kataklysmic]

On the SF4 dev blog they stated that they were going to announce the next location test date, but because they're facing a "critical turning point", and they are really in the final push of the development of the game, so they're asking fans to wait just a little bit for a future announcement. In the mean time they got Daigo Ikeno to provide some sketches of C. Viper and her attacks, and they into detail about how she performs her moves. She's got jet boosters in her boots and her metal knucks emit electricity and all that.

The attack in the sketch is called the "Capital Punishment Combo", but how they're going to put it into the game, they don't know, but they were able to create such moves for SF4.

http://www.capcom-fc.com/sf4/2008/04/post_20.html

Damn, that looks painful. They should make THAT into her Ultra when the game's released.

How would it work? When she activates, she flashes and they get scared expecting a high/mid attack. But she slides underneath their legs (has to be blocked low), they turn around going "WTF?," and then it starts.

[AdverseSolutions]

info confirmed

new loc test this weekend in osaka

http://www.capcom-fc.com/sf4/2008/04/post_22.html

el fuerte playable

[Reno]

oh FUCK it's on! I'm there!

[Azrael]

This weekend. THIS WEEKEND?!

Well gentlemen, see you there. :tup:

[AdverseSolutions]

dude, kunai's gotta defend the title!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Azrael]

Will our ID cards from before work? Fuck, I'm pumped now. I just hope someone can get video this time. The comp was way too good last time, and it'd be great if people over the net could see what we saw.

[BadMojo]

Looking forward to more impressions from you guys.

I don't suppose you could bug the Capcom reps there for some hints regarding more characters appearing in the game? Be it new or returning ones.

[Reno]

yeah the cards are good even when the final version comes out, they stated so when the cards were first issued. For this loketest it seems that only Ryu and Ken cards are available, but the downloadable wallpaper is Honda lol.

KUNAI WHERE ARE YOU. COME ON DUDE COME DOWN!

BadMojo: Even if there were reps there, I doubt they would even say anything to us.

[Azrael]

Well, I'm gonna wear my SF t-shirt this time around. Some dude wearing a shoryuken t-shirt seems to have impressed the blog girl, and if she is who I think she is, she's pretty damn cute, so I figure eh, what the heck.

I'll try to go Friday night after work and Saturday morning/afternoon again.

[AdverseSolutions]

sonic spin dash

VLI trademark

[Reno]

Azrael: cool. I'll join you on Friday night cuz all I was gonna do was go to the gym lol. I'll go on Sat afternoon cuz some friends from work wanna go too. Dunno about Sunday... if Kunai goes I'll go all three days lol.

[Azrael]

Addy: :rofl: :rofl: Oh yeah. Although, I'm not sure - I think the blog girl might be the one who gave me back my ID card when I forgot it. Either way, they're both worthy and deserving of sonic spin dashes.

Reno: Cool, I should get there around 6:30 if I can get out of work on time *crosses fingers*. I'd love to go Sunday too, but I dunno if the missus will approve. :sad:

[Kunai]

After work, I will catch the first train down to Osaka. I'll have to figure out a place to stay... maybe capsule inn again. :P

But yeah man, I'm there.

And PLEASE hook me up with some hot Capcom girls *LOL*

[EDIT] I will test out several things during this upcoming loketest, and I will try to sneak in some video if possible. If you have anything legitimate that you want me to try, that I am skilled enough to do, I will do my best to try it out for you.

The things I will try out during the loketest:

[List will continually update]

Tons of El Fuerte play, dashed in with more C.Viper play
Will research properties of Saving Attacks with different characters (to see if there are any differences in hi-mid-low ranges)
Will confirm to see if fully-charged Saving Attack is ALWAYS unblockable
Will try to see if you can still do Saving Attack Stun -> Saving Attack Dash Cancel -> Ultra
Will try to utilize Negative Edge more (both the "piano method" and holding button then releasing)

[AdverseSolutions]

::runs to arcade to practice ST::

[Reno]

Oh shit #1 player in SF4 is coming to Osaka! Gimmie a ring when you get into town!

[Azrael]

Excellent, the gang's all here. Team SRK, assemble!

Friday seriously cannot come soon enough now.

[gozulin]

I just wanted to say that I hate you all bitterly.

edit: Also, please bring back video footage! Domo!

[Akutabi Gamma]

After work, I will catch the first train down to Osaka. I'll have to figure out a place to stay... maybe capsule inn again. :P

But yeah man, I'm there.

And PLEASE hook me up with some hot Capcom girls *LOL*

[EDIT] I will test out several things during this upcoming loketest, and I will try to sneak in some video if possible. If you have anything legitimate that you want me to try, that I am skilled enough to do, I will do my best to try it out for you.

The things I will try out during the loketest:

[List will continually update]

Tons of El Fuerte play, dashed in with more C.Viper play
Will research properties of Saving Attacks with different characters (to see if there are any differences in hi-mid-low ranges)
Will confirm to see if fully-charged Saving Attack is ALWAYS unblockable
Will try to see if you can still do Saving Attack Stun -> Saving Attack Dash Cancel -> Ultra
Will try to utilize Negative Edge more (both the "piano method" and holding button then releasing)

Don't forget to report what Fuerte's super and Ultra are like.

[Kunai]

Oh yeah... is this the same exact Sega Avion in Namba? Or is it in a different ward?

[Battosai]

So one please play Guile, and pull off this combo

meaty Low foward+low strong(or standing strong punch)+flash kick


Jump fierce+stand fierce+flash kick

try his air grab

man I am so glad to hear that this game is like SF2, but I wish Guile was the more of the old Guile with the standing roundhouse anti air.

[Henaki]

have you tried kara throwing?

obviously look for a few moves worth trying before you do though, anything that moves a person very forward fairly quickly.
if kara throwing works, try kara focus attacks.

see if taunts have any noticable effects.

can you low tech? (hit LP+LK while crouching, see what comes out and if it will tech a throw).

see if you can focus attack a focus attack, even an unblockable one.

can you focus attack cancel special moves? if so, try one after a throw whiff.

[Nokato]

I'd like for the following things to be tested, concerning C. Viper


-Does she have a meaty normal--Crouching or Standing?
-I've seen Guile do rapid fire weak attacks (5-6 Crouching), does C. Viper have them or does she have links? If so--is it possible to 2 in 1 from any of them into special or supers?


Ken

-Can Ken link Short, Jab, Short into Shoryu Reppa?
-Also, is it possible to juggle his ultra from a dash cancel combo (Theoretic Example: Saving Attack, dash up into stand fierce into EX Shoryu--dash Stand Fierce into jab shoryu, as they're coming down--time the Ultra to hit?) I haven't played the game so forgive if my combo sounds ridiculous I just thought it would work according to the combo system in Theory.

-Can Ken still do low roundhouse into Zenpo Tenshin (roll)?


And, is Gief's stand Jab still AA somewhat?


Thanks, if any of these questions can be answered.

[Dragonfave723]

Questions to Reno, Kunai, and Azrael:

Do any one of you guys own a video camcorder, and are you willing to record matches and upload them for us to see?

[TheDarkPhoenix]

I hate all of you that are close enough to play!

[beelzebubble]

Oh yeah... is this the same exact Sega Avion in Namba? Or is it in a different ward?

same one.

[DutchieD]

Im looking forward to seeing the footage of fuerte in action! But i'm wondering, what about sagat and boxer? will they be playable?

[Hotcarl6]

can you find out if there are double srk in the corner with ken? Can you also look and see if mp mp is a target combo like in 3rd strike. Does Ken's air ex tatsu juggle into srk? Shinshoryuken? Does Blanks's air ball hit on the way down? Or is it like super turbo? I just want to play the damn game.

[Lvl.3]

Questions to Reno, Kunai, and Azrael:

Do any one of you guys own a video camcorder, and are you willing to record matches and upload them for us to see?


One of the best questions yet.

[Rioting Soul]

Kara throw from Guile's step kick.

If kara throws work, then how about kara focus attack?

Try to find more links.

Do that Honda stomp(and the mixups that come from it) Seth was talking about. f+roundhouse IIRC. It can be canceled on start up into Ochio or Hundred Hands.

[Demon Dash]

Try and figure out what is and isn't dash cancelable...

[Jimmy Bones]

:woot:
You guys better bring some footage!
2 more days!

[Henaki]

plz dont bother wasting time with links unless you actually get a good opportunity to do so. id rather learn about the system mechanics first ;_;

[Kataklysmic]

After work, I will catch the first train down to Osaka. I'll have to figure out a place to stay... maybe capsule inn again. :P

But yeah man, I'm there.


Will try to utilize Negative Edge more (both the "piano method" and holding button then releasing)

Yeah, don't forget to try Neg. Edging from a Saving Attack! :bgrin:

I don't know if they give out surveys for every loke test, but since your Japanese isn't legible enough, would it help if you wrote your impressions down in English? The Capcom staff should have a few white guys there who can translate it, especially Seth.

[Leebee Link]

The only links you should really test are what Ryu can get (if anything) after f+HP and f+MP

[Kunai]

I don't know if they give out surveys for every loke test, but since your Japanese isn't legible enough, would it help if you wrote your impressions down in English? The Capcom staff should have a few white guys there who can translate it, especially Seth.

Yeah, I learned my lesson. :wink: I'll stick with English on the next feedback session.

I also hope Seth and other key SFIV people from Capcom also read these threads. I'm not even close to Seth's level in terms of skill and strategy, but I would hope that even a person like myself can uncover something that wasn't apparent before.

We got a great SRK Osaka wrecking crew out here, though... so I'm sure the input will be there for Capcom to see and read.

[Reno]

Remember loketesters, join the gaijin guild once the mobile site is online again lol

guild name: "レッツゴー北米"
password: 2399

also can we change the thread title to "Official 4th loketest thread"?

[beelzebubble]

i'll be there 1ish on saturday.

[AdverseSolutions]

Hey any shooter whores up in this? Apparently Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu is having a loctest in Kobe starting this Tuesday.

2008.04.08　 　怒首領蜂大復活　ロケテスト 　4/9より　遊スペースマジカル（神戸）

Some impressions of the loke test version from a couple Japanese dudes on 2Ch:

-The graphics and gameplay system have been greatly improved
-There are bee icons to collect
-There's massive slowdown everywhere (think Futari BL God mode)
-It's hard as fuck

[chunbelievable]

If El Fuerte is playable impressions would be nice :)

[bafiaris13]

hey guys i just wanna say thanks for all the info so far..

all this stuff you ve said so far about the game make me more optimistic about it..

[JoeMasters]

Good luck tommarow guys. Cant wait for the info.

[rush down]

I'd go today but my mother is flying in for the week. I will be in Osaka next weekend though to see her off. Hope to see you guys then.

[Azrael]

The SF4 cell phone website is back up. I just tried to access it, but it didn't have any of my player data saved, nor did it recognize my cards. Either they hadn't loaded the data when I tried this morning, or we're gonna have to start from scratch.

[Reno]

Seems like we're starting from scratch... I had to re-register on the site again.

I'll set up the guild again so everyone can join.

team name: 風林母ざん
password: 2399

[Hydro-kinesis]

God speed guys, bring us any news of those glorious findings again!

[Domikaze]

Hey I was wondering if any of you guys could give me the address/location of this place in English. I just recently moved to Kyoto (last week) and I still have a hard time with kanji. I'm sure since it's Friday you all must be playing right now, but if someone could like clue me in on how to get there I would really appreciate it.

[AdverseSolutions]

team name: 風林母ざん
password: 2399

wait what is that supposed to mean? :rofl:

[Reno]

Domikaze: It's called Sega World Avion. It's located near Namba station on the Midosuji/Sennichimae/etc lines, and it's across from Namba Parks. I think only Kunai is gonna get there early... the rest of us losers are working lol.

AD: 風林火山。。。風林かざん。。。。風林かあ~ざん。。。風林母ざん lol

I wonder how many Japanese players are gonna be like "wtf is this you noob gaijin" lol

[AdverseSolutions]

AD: 風林火山。。。風林かざん。。。。風林かあ~ざん。。。風林母ざん lol


不倫母さん is part of it too right? that's why i was :rofl:

i'm gonna be heading down at 5 just to get a look at EF, but i've gotta get home for a delivery after that so if i make it back it won't be til 9 or so.

[AdverseSolutions]

Two new characters? (all info from 2ch, not confirmed yet)

四天王とルーファス (Shitennou and Rufus) are being reported on the Keitai player ranking site. Az, Reno, confirm?

El Fuerte apparently plays a bit like R. Mika with a button input super.

More info as I comb 2ch

Edit: Rufus is apparently a Chinese African? LOL ::wonders if 2ch can be relied on::

Edit: El Fuerte has an anti-air throw and charge moves

Edit: Picture of Rufus apparently available at

携帯サイト→ユーザー登録→コンテンツSHOP→カラーバリエーション→ルーファス

Somebody that can get into that site, can you save the pic? Rufus is apparently a girl? Might have to render the name different if that's the case lol.

Rufus' moves:

Saviour kick = jump kick. Can be followed up by a sommersault which hits three times.

Ginga tornado
Spins a bit then moves forward and punches. If EXed, opponent is sucked in.

Hebitotsu ecstasy
Jumps diagonally forward into a multi-punch combo. Perhaps useful as anti-air. Ultra is some sort of wild dance.

[Azrael]

I'll be there at 6:30 until my last train. Can't wait.

[Reno]

四天王 refers to the "four kings" aka Bison, Vega, Sagat and Balrog. Rufus is also on the keitai site. I checked all of this via the character rankings on the SF4 mobile site.

[AdverseSolutions]

四天王 refers to the "four kings" aka Bison, Vega, Sagat and Balrog. Rufus is also on the keitai site. I checked all of this via the character rankings on the SF4 mobile site.

Damn, fucking Japanese fighting game slang lol. What does Rufus look like? 2ch is all over the place

[Reno]

I'm at work... dunno. There's no pictures of anything Rufus on the keitai site unfortunately...

Some info off the keitai site:

There is a new shop open for Color Variation. By using Zennys (currency you win from matches) you can purchase new colors for your characters. Every character has two colors each. I just scanned really quickly and noticed that Abel has all black and all white outfits, and C. Viper has a blue outfit now. There are also "stamps" you collect for playing at arcades. Right now there is a Ken wallpaper (? I think) that is available once you play one game at the location test site.

[AdverseSolutions]

Well if the Rufus info is reliable, the same guy said he/she looks like ハート様http://www.k2.dion.ne.jp/~ymura/LOVELOG_IMG/heart_sama1.jpg lololol.

[Strider2k2]

Good info....

[*Onslaught*]

Well if the Rufus info is reliable, the same guy said he/she looks like ハート様http://www.k2.dion.ne.jp/~ymura/LOVELOG_IMG/heart_sama1.jpg lololol.

That's horrible.:rofl:

[Domikaze]

Domikaze: It's called Sega World Avion. It's located near Namba station on the Midosuji/Sennichimae/etc lines, and it's across from Namba Parks. I think only Kunai is gonna get there early... the rest of us losers are working lol.

AD: 風林火山。。。風林かざん。。。。風林かあ~ざん。。。風林母ざん lol

I wonder how many Japanese players are gonna be like "wtf is this you noob gaijin" lol

Ok cool, thanks for the info. What are the times this is going on? Also, more importantly, does anyone know when the trains stop? Because it seems everything shuts the hell down at 10 in Kyoto, and I'm wondering if its the same most places.

And it is guaranteed that they will be saying that because I am a major scrub at SF, I just want to check the new game out since I can haha.

[Jay Wang]

Hey Japan SRK Crew,

Just wanted to pop in and say a quick thanks in advance for the posts!

Any new information regarding the game which you can provide will go a long way in all of our hearts :lovin:

Keep the updates coming!

:woot:

[Jion_Wansu]

So wait...dictator is back!!!!! :wow:

[clue2025]

Two new characters? (all info from 2ch, not confirmed yet)


Saviour kick = jump kick. Can be followed up by a sommersault which hits three times.

Ginga tornado
Spins a bit then moves forward and punches. If EXed, opponent is sucked in.

Hebitotsu ecstasy
Jumps diagonally forward into a multi-punch combo. Perhaps useful as anti-air. Ultra is some sort of wild dance.

Elena's instructor? All I had to read was ginga and im set. Capoeistas FTW! Tho I'm not too excited about boxer dic and claw...

That diagonal jump almost sounds like Guy's from Alpha.

[Reno]

Ok cool, thanks for the info. What are the times this is going on? Also, more importantly, does anyone know when the trains stop? Because it seems everything shuts the hell down at 10 in Kyoto, and I'm wondering if its the same most places.

And it is guaranteed that they will be saying that because I am a major scrub at SF, I just want to check the new game out since I can haha.

The loketest goes from 10am until closing, which is like midnight. Trains stop in Namba at around midnight as well.

Adverse: Keitai pictures are locked, as usual. You can't move or transfer them anywhere, so here are descriptions:

Claw: Classic SF2 style but a bit more muscular. One claw, not double.
Boxer: Very muscular, very Alpha-style
Sagat: Beastly, Alpha-style
Dictator: Muscular, SF2 classic style.
Rufus: Definitely a dude, very round. Mohawk and everything.

[AdverseSolutions]

The loketest goes from 10am until closing, which is like midnight. Trains stop in Namba at around midnight as well.

Adverse: Keitai pictures are locked, as usual. You can't move or transfer them anywhere, so here are descriptions:

Claw: Classic SF2 style but a bit more muscular. One claw, not double.
Boxer: Very muscular, very Alpha-style
Sagat: Beastly, Alpha-style
Dictator: Muscular, SF2 classic style.
Rufus: Definitely a dude, very round. Mohawk and everything.

Rufus=black?

[Reno]

Looks white to me, but keitai screenshots are tiny.

[AdverseSolutions]

apparently the four kings are all playable

[Genetix1234]

Looks white to me, but keitai screenshots are tiny.

link?

[AdverseSolutions]

vega is apparently thin version, not fat alpha style

[Reno]

Yeah he's SF2 style, not Alpha style. Good job! Classic is the way to go!

[CaliLifeStyle]

So all the original bosses are back. Party time.

[TS]

I'll set up the guild again so everyone can join.

team name: 風林母ざん


:rofl:

[Azrael]

Is Sagat playable? FUCK YEAH.

Work simply cannot end fast enough. I will be on my fastest horse down there.

[BaSiK_TeKniK]

hows C.Viper?

[AdverseSolutions]

people were talking about this on 2ch, but what the hell happened to female characters in this game? chun and viper, that's it? m/f ratio starting to look like a real arcade

[EvilSamurai]

Is Vega/Claw like ST Claw? I play ST Claw but I will be the first to admit that his entire design in that game is sortof broken.

[ramberk]

Well, let's look at M/F ratios in other SF games...

WW- 1/8
HF- 1/12
ST- 2/17

SFA- 2/12
SFA2- 3/17
SFA3- 10/37

NG- 1/10
2I- 1/14
3S- 3/19

SF4- 2/15

The ratio looks about the same when compared to other SF games. The only game with a freakish amount of girls is SFA3.

[Nokato]

Well, Ono claimed there would be more female characters early on--so people are a little shocked that there's only 2 females in the game. Honestly, I mean at this point I guess people just have to hope more will be revealed prior to release. There's still a few months prior to slated release and we all know Capcom will hold off on things purposely to generate hype if there are more female characters.

Really, I'd just like to see footage of the new build, preferably some good capture vids. I don't get why thye dont want people to really see test footage alot. If a game is hyped people are going to want to see it--It'd be really nice to get some hi-res. Those sagat vids you could barely see him much...


To Reno, Az, Kunai, and co....thanks for the input regarding the game it's much appreciated for people that don't have an opportunity to play the game quite yet.

[Henaki]

3s had 4 girls, ng and 2i had 2.

[AdverseSolutions]

Apparently super guage and revenge guage have both migrated to the bottom of the screen. Character portrait on top of life guage now. Look of guages have changed too.

[Reno]

fucker I was gonna post that LOL.

God damnit, two more hours!

[Kataklysmic]

Now this is some good fucking news I'm reading. Bosses playable! Can't wait to throw some Tigers!

But damn, they seem to be taking a lot of ideas from Slam Masters now. First El Fuerte, and now a guy who sounds like a redesign of Jumbo Flapjack, who was directly conceived from HnK's Mr. Heart. He'd better be interesting to play.

[Hyuga]

Very excited about the news. You guys rock for taking the time to post info.

[azis]

I come here from hour to hour to see the news.

Thanks to all of you who are in Japan by bringing us the info! You rock!

[crazydiamond]

link?

Bump.

[Reno]

http://sf4.jp

You can only access it via mobile phone... and maybe only Japanese mobile phones, who knows.

[clue2025]

Maybe they'll throw in all the "old" characters including O. Sagat so you can throw tigershots all day :rolleyes:

They might as well bring back deejay, cammy, and t-hawk for all of that. This isn't exciting in the least. To me at least. But thats just me. Theres a few people the game could do without, dictator being one of them. Especially if he's the boss. And he's supposed to be dead especially when every situation, he does die and Gouki sends him to hell anyways.

Oh well, keep the updates comin about the loktests, im lookin forward to them. I wanna know how El Fuerte plays.

[crazydiamond]

http://sf4.jp

You can only access it via mobile phone... and maybe only Japanese mobile phones, who knows.

Haha thanks.

So Balrog-Vega and Vega-Bison are in it also? I guess that makes sense.

[MiLky]

Thanks in advance for the upcoming posts of greatness. The last loketest thread is the best thread in the SF4 section, now we may have two good threads.

I want to know how the big fat dude plays, I like playing tanks.

[Azrael]

On my way now! I'm as excited as a little Belgium schoolgirl.

[gozulin]

On my way now! I'm as excited as a little Belgium schoolgirl.

Well, then Capcom must've done something right.

[Jigsaw]

Edit: Rufus is apparently a Chinese African? LOL ::wonders if 2ch can be relied on::
Assuming we read the same post, he is supposedly Chinese-American, not African.


Saviour kick = jump kick. Can be followed up by a sommersault which hits three times.

Ginga tornado
Spins a bit then moves forward and punches. If EXed, opponent is sucked in.

Hebitotsu ecstasy
Jumps diagonally forward into a multi-punch combo. Perhaps useful as anti-air. Ultra is some sort of wild dance.
These are El Fuerte's moves, not Rufus's. My Japanese isn't stellar but from what I gathered of the description of the Saviour Kick, there are three different followups; a somersault kick, a low kick, and a jumping kick.
Ginga Tornado is ginga as in 銀河=Milky Way, it has nothing to do with capoeira.
Ranbu (乱舞) can be literally translated into "wild dance", but it's fighting game speak for autocombo (It comes from the name of Ryo and Robert's super in AOF, the Ryuuko Ranbu, 竜虎乱舞). BTW, the names of his Super and Ultra are quite awesome, "Spectacle Romance" and "Space Opera Symphony". :rofl:


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Until we hear more from you guys I'll keep an eye on 2ch to see if anything of interest pops up. Can't wait to hear impressions! :tup:

[AdverseSolutions]

Back at home for a sec, I was there for about an hour and will be back soon.

Jigsaw thanks for the corrections. Wild dance, lol. Those are Rufus' moves though, at least from what I just saw.

Um, vega (dictator) is really good. Teleport has hardly any recovery, cb+k is as good as ever, has jugglable j. MP. Went on a 4 game and 7 game streak with him. Tried out Rufus, who is a blonde big fighter, similar to that fat guy in Tekken 6 almost, but with a ponytail. I'm not really sure how he could be Chinese-American, he looks white to me but ::shrug::. His attacks are weird, one is a jumping multi-punch (Hebitotsu ecstasy or whatever) which yeah, sort of works as anti-air, then his milky way tornado is good up close. He spins and hits the opponent at the end. I believe Reno was able to follow up this move with other high/low attacks. More info on that later.

Saw some guy get a 7 game with El Fuerte, but all he was doing was running, doing the Vega esque vertical dive move and mixing up hit/throw.

Saw all the four kings, nothing especially notable so far. Ok, back to the arcade.

[DutchieD]

My pants are moist reading this, I just woke up and see all this sick news. Damn. Awesome day :D.

*anxiously awaits footage*

[FightingGames4ever]

Thanks for info, can't wait to see videos or screenshots! Are there new stages too?
(now i'm waiting for more females)

[Jigsaw]

OK, I didn't realise Rufus was actually playable so I had assumed those were Fuerte's moves. What kind of stuff does Fuerte have then? And can someone describe Rufus's appearance in greater detail?

[AdverseSolutions]

Out the door but

There are definitely new stages, I'm not sure how many.

They have a machine just for 1p matches, not sure if you can beat the game on it just yet.

Fuerte has a lot of running moves, as if he were running into the ropes and rebounding himself off.

Rufus is a round character with blonde hair, a ponytail, wearing suspenders (?), and his whole model jiggles this way and that hehe.

[C.Viper]

Thanks for the info guys. How is Ryu coming along? Have they fixed up his face yet? Thanks guys.

[Aquashark]

do you wank to his face? stop whining about his face already.. jeez..

[Akutabi Gamma]

Vids people WHAR ARE TEH VIDS!!!!!????

[fallot]

do you wank to his face? stop whining about his face already.. jeez..

It was exceptionally ugly though. I'd be rather concerned if the face wasn't tweaked.

Those pics that were mentioned; while we can't access them, isn't it possible to like PrintScreen the page and host jpegs of the character pics? That may be overkill if we're they're about to reveal them anyway but there's a dearth of (visual) info.

Thanks for taking the time out to go to these tests guys. I can't express how much I appreciate them (and I'm sure everyone else is just as appreciative).

[The Mullah]

any graphical improvements?

whats peoples reactions to the game visually?

Sagats fireballs look to startup real slow, does he have his godly cvs2 type normals?

Looking forward to reports of what people are getting upto with their characters.

How do you do hands and electricity? is it any strength 5th button input like cvs2 or the same button 4 times like ST?

[Nokato]

I have a feeling there won't be any vids...

[Strider2k2]

Great info on Rufus. Not sure if i'm liking this character design choice, but we'll see.

[Jigsaw]

It's difficult to PrintScreen on a cellphone. I'd say your best bet would be having someone take a photo of their cellphone screen, but that's just kind of silly, heh.

Random stuff from 2ch:

-Dictator is voiced by Norio Wakamoto.
-El Fuerte's moves apparently involves running around a lot.
-Characters faces seems to have been touched up a fair bit. Supposedly Ryu and Ken look much better.
-Claw is apparently also voiced by a famous voice actor (the poster said "I know I've heard this voice before")
-There's a Russia stage, set in some sort of concert/assembly hall.
-Dictator said something like "Do you want to join your friend in death?" to Guile. ("友の元へ逝くか！！！？")
-El Fuerte has been compared to Rainbow Mika as well as Maki from CVS2, what with the command run and all. "He's really difficult, cause he's so fast! He's like a cockroach, scuttling back and forth..."
-El Fuerte's Ultra has him standing on the opponent's shoulders, bending their body in "impossible-looking ways" in mid-air, before slamming into the ground. "Looks like it hurts!"
-Even when standing still El Fuerte seems to be moving about. He seems to be very vividly animated and apparently looks pretty funny.
-When he appears, Dictator floats down from the sky and says "このベガ様が相手してやろう" (roughly, "Lord Vega will fight you"). "His win quotes are perfectly Vega-like, too".
-El Fuerte has some kind of running attack that can trample the opponent, or be canceled/linked to a throw? Not really sure.
-I can't really understand the discussion about Fuerte's moves fully, but apparently for some reason he has a strong anti-air game.

[Cronopio]

El Fuerte sounds like he will be awesome if that stuff is true.

[TheDarkPhoenix]

needs video, and more info!


I'm getting pretty hype about this game.

[capcom2d.com]

I like the gameplay stuff I'm hearing and I hate the character design and choices that are coming out. I really want like 4-5 SF3 guys and it seems like we may not even get 1. That just sucks as a fan of the game. They really are making SF2.5 in terms of plot/story/characters.

[brian]

All 12 characters from champion edition and none from any other sf game after that is hella lame.

Im also fairly meh on the new characters.

[Phoenix Fury]

How did they work with Claw's.... claw? Does he have a different set of animation depending on which side of the screen he's on? Or does he have two claws or something?

Edit - thanks for all the info, guys! Good luck to the SRKers.

[clue2025]

These are El Fuerte's moves, not Rufus's. My Japanese isn't stellar but from what I gathered of the description of the Saviour Kick, there are three different followups; a somersault kick, a low kick, and a jumping kick.
Ginga Tornado is ginga as in 銀河=Milky Way, it has nothing to do with capoeira.
Ranbu (乱舞) can be literally translated into "wild dance", but it's fighting game speak for autocombo (It comes from the name of Ryo and Robert's super in AOF, the Ryuuko Ranbu, 竜虎乱舞). BTW, the names of his Super and Ultra are quite awesome, "Spectacle Romance" and "Space Opera Symphony". :rofl:


Thanks for clearing that up. Either way he uses a lot of kicks and flying moves along with throws and stuff so that might be my main. I'm still not excited at all about all the original cast returning though. Dead people need to stay dead dammit! Replace him with Ingrid I don't care! Or please just change or get rid of a few characters. Why can't we have chinese boxing instead of american boxing? Or Krav Maga or Kenpo and new characters with them? Only 3 new characters doesnt do it for me. And this is supposed to be an August release?

Oh well. Have fun guys. Report back when you can.

[DutchieD]

I bet yamazaki is gonna play El Fuerte, instead of air dashing just regular running around this time :P

[coco_j]

It's cool for Dictator fans that he's back, but he really wasn't necessary. I pray to god T.Hawk and DeeJay don't come back. Rufus sounds pretty lame, but El Fuerte sounds like a great fun character.

Really really hoping for Cammy, some new females and some muthafuckin III characters. Dudley please for fucks sake!

[CaliLifeStyle]

Pics man. Someone has to have a cell phone camera at least. :wgrin:

[hubcapsignstop]

so 4 new chars and 4 bosses
16 total (4x4) like was predicted from the early select screen
is this it?

[capcom2d.com]

How did they work with Claw's.... claw? Does he have a different set of animation depending on which side of the screen he's on? Or does he have two claws or something?

Edit - thanks for all the info, guys! Good luck to the SRKers.

Why does anyone think this was ever a legit problem? It started as speculation by people who don't know anything about coding/animation. This is a 3d game made in 2008 and you think there's going to be problem getting a claw on one hand to switch sides? Come on think for a second.

[Humbag]

Someone mentioned this: "Shitennou"

Is that a character?

[Phoenix Fury]

Why does anyone think this was ever a legit problem? It started as speculation by people who don't know anything about coding/animation. This is a 3d game made in 2008 and you think there's going to be problem getting a claw on one hand to switch sides? Come on think for a second.

Personally, I was literally just curious to see how it looked, since I'd heard that Sagat's patch stays on the same eye, but unlike EX, these characters always face the screen. I'm sure whatever solution to this little "problem" they worked out is fine, I just wanted to know how it looks in action. I actually don't care if the claw magically switches hands, but until video of him in action surfaces, may as well ask.

[Henaki]

Personally, I was literally just curious to see how it looked, since I'd heard that Sagat's patch stays on the same eye, but unlike EX, these characters always face the screen. I'm sure whatever solution to this little "problem" they worked out is fine, I just wanted to know how it looks in action. I actually don't care if the claw magically switches hands, but until video of him in action surfaces, may as well ask.

lol its pretty effortless to do what they did

[Nokato]

so 4 new chars and 4 bosses
16 total (4x4) like was predicted from the early select screen
is this it?

Judging by the character select screen it probably is. I was hoping for at least one more female character, but looks like that's not happening. Good news about Ken and Ryu's faces being touched up, overall I'm not exactly satisfied with the character selection--but this is what Ono was going for so I already knew that. I don't much about Rufus but he sounds like a clone of Wong Who from Final Fight, so more than likely I'll pass on him. Anyways, this only means that the game is closer to completion so more people stateside can play.


I look forward to the reports that will come from Team SRK...and I don't think peopel should get their hopes up for vids because more than likely there won't be any.

[Yurinka]

so 4 new chars and 4 bosses
16 total (4x4) like was predicted from the early select screen
is this it?
The final game will have more than 16 characters. BTW, in the select screen allowed more characters.

[Kunai]

Hi

Vega switches hands with the claw magically.

Eating a single attack with Saving Attack works differently now. You still get a grayed-out portion of meter, but now it refills faster. The catch is that it refills if you DON'T attack. I am still trying to figure out other speculations... I believe blocking will also prevent you from regaining your grayed-out meter. An interesting twist, because that means more than likely you will have to decide on keeping the pressure on your opponent and hope you can somehow find time to regain your life w/o getting hit again, or you can stop... regain life... and lose momentum.

Revenge meter is the same. Proportional to your lifebar... if you're close to death, you will have a higher revenge meter. HOWEVER, Ultras don't take off nearly as much now. You are lucky to get 40-50 percent even if you have a closely maxed-out bar.

Yes, Ryu looks a lot better now. His face has been fixed and now he looks even more like the Ryu we know and love. Chun Li also got a major facelift. I read an interview where the art director said he spends so much time making Chun Li look good in this game. He wasn't lying. C.Viper looks the same as before but Chun Li looks way better than her because of added detail.

You can still do SA Stun => Dash Cancel -> Ultra. You do not flash anymore when you cancel, but I don't know if you use up super meter because of it.

Super Meter is now segmented into 4 parts, for easy reference to see how many Ex moves you can use. Of course, you can only use a super when it's filled.

I saw two people do SA at the same time, one person charged to level 2 SA, but the other person absorbed the hit and hit him back with lvl 3.

I cannot try out links because I am too retarded at playing most characters. I'm sorry. I still have problems linking C.Viper's electric punch to super. I never said I was any good.

Some info on Sagat... don't ever jump at him... tiger uppercut is good with no air-blocking. Tiger Knee is also a great weapon that comes out quick. His fireballs are slower than usual, though... but he's still good.

C.Viper changes:

EX Flame Kick does not have as much priority as before... last loketest, the EX Flame Kick hit an opponent who was too close, crouching or standing, and hit multiple times. It can be blocked, but it was good for chip damage. Now, it sorta floats above crouching opponents. Decent but a bit more random now (concerning how it hits).

Before, C.Viper's jumping attacks were pretty lame. She couldn't hit anything in front of her to save her life if she jumped forward, because the angle of her kick was too steep. Now, her jumping forward kick is pretty useful as a tricky cross-up. It will hit in front of her now.

You can juggle Fierce Electric punch to another fierce electric punch some of the time, depending on how the opponent floats. Sometimes they will drop like a rock, sometimes they will float enough for another electric punch (I only tried fierce).

So basically, some stuff is better for her, some are not as good.

I gave up on El Fuerte very quickly... he's too quick for me. He's literally on crack.

I don't think Rufus can dash, and if he can... it's not even noticable.

sleep time

[scentless]

El Fuerte is looking very fun to play..... need vids!!!

[Humbag]

Thanks a lot for the info Kunai

[Dragonfave723]

Nothing on "Shitennou"?

[Super Sonic]

Dictator FTW! Thank you Capcom, thank you!

[rook]

Nothing on "Shitennou"?shitennou = "four heavenly kings" = Balrog, Vega, Sagat, M.Bison.


thx for the info that you guys are putting up, it's really great!

[Phoenix Fury]

Thanks for the info, Kunai!

Edit - dang, lots of info. Thanks Azrael, Reno, Adverse, and whomever else is droppin knowledge here. Go Team SRK

[Reno]

Claw has maximum spider ultra combo, not joking here.

Flip kick can't be juggled from what I saw. People tried to do flip kick anti-air, then another one, and it just didn't connect...

Claw's fierce is just deadly in any state right now. j.fierce has insane range and priority, and standing and crouching fierce look almost like half the screen.

Boxer's standing fierce doesn't seem to have the range that it used to have.

Sad to say for CvS fans... Sagat's c.fierce is nerfed, deal with it. :P

El Mexicano's j.fierce is insanely good for crossups. Extremely useful, and unlike Chun and Vega, he actually gains speed after a wall jump, it's pretty cool.

Gief seems unchanged right now... SPDs left and right. I actually pulled off blocked EX green hand -> Ultra and it connected... somehow.

[CaliLifeStyle]

Vega sounds better than ever.

[Kunai]

I hope somebody from the SFIV team reads this.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention... they changed the content of the announcer of the game in this loketest version. I don't like it at all. First of all, they changed his style of voice... it doesn't sound nearly as cool. Second, the announcer says too much stuff... to the point where it's REALLY annoying. It's all in English, too. The announcer talks while you select your character, on the vs. loading screen, while you're fighting. He talks too much and the stuff he says is annoying (content-wise and voice-wise). It even drowns out the background music during the vs. select screen.

The old version from the last loketest was perfect IMO... they need to make it simple again. The announcer content is actually worse than Alpha3... A LOT WORSE. It really kills the mood of the game and detracts from the experience.

endrant

Stuff I posted in another BBS:

Rufus is MALE. I have confirmed this. He looks like Cheng from Fatal Fury, Bob from Tekken, Heart from HNK... you name it. He looks AMERICAN, but looks like a wanna-be Chinese fat guy. Whoever posted that in 2ch was misinformed.

He is a fat, obviously caucasian who has a half-beard (no growth on the chin, but has hair on the lip). Has one of those chinese hairdos where they are almost bald, but has a ponytail and a patch of hair. He wears a skintight suit that exposes his stomach and a patch of hair where his navel is.

I played him once... he seemed hard to move with but had a few good moves. It was mesmerizing to watch his fat move... he's built like an orange. I called him the "uniboob". It's like if you had a DOA girl, but she had one boob and the boob took up her whole body. With a patch of hair down the middle. That's Rufus all right.

El Fuerte was like Ramon from KOF, but hyper and way fast with the command run. He is dangerous if you knock someone down and play wakeup games, but he is high-risk with his attacks. His Ultra is not very useful, because he will jump in the air and can only catch a grounded opponent from midscreen. It is also slow, ironically. You have to leave yourself wide open to get hit from this.

He has an anti-air command throw, some moves he can do while running and that's pretty much it. We are trying to figure out how to make him successful, but it will be difficult because if he's running, he's very vulnerable.

[CaliLifeStyle]

I hope somebody from the SFIV team reads this.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention... they changed the content of the announcer of the game in this loketest version. I don't like it at all. First of all, they changed his style of voice... it doesn't sound nearly as cool. Second, the announcer says too much stuff... to the point where it's REALLY annoying. It's all in English, too. The announcer talks while you select your character, on the vs. loading screen, while you're fighting. He talks too much and the stuff he says is annoying (content-wise and voice-wise). It even drowns out the background music during the vs. select screen.

The old version from the last loketest was perfect IMO... they need to make it simple again. The announcer content is actually worse than Alpha3... A LOT WORSE. It really kills the mood of the game and detracts from the experience.

endrant
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Does he say Curley Mustache at least?

[The Switcher]

I'm sure Capcom USA will have that announcer toned back for an NA release.

Man, I wish they'd bring back the NG/2I announcer....

[Humbag]

Does he say Curley Mustache at least?

LOL they just recorded yipes for this lol.

[ShinRekka]

Awesome info guys! Hopefully we'll get to see some vids sooner or later.....

[Azrael]

Back home now. Some quick thoughts...

Network System - Changes and Improvements

-- They've added a contents shop where you can buy wallpapers, and new colors for your character. As of right now, everything costs about 1 zeni. There's also something about "stamps", but I don't quite understand it yet.

-- You can really customize your character. You can choose your main color, sub-color, you can choose which action they'll do when they taunt, and you can set which win quote they'll say at the victory screen (pre-set choices, you can't enter in a personal one).

-- If you're part of a guild, the guild name and picture will appear with your name, battle points, W/L record, and comments on the VS screen.

Graphics - Changes and Improvements

-- As was said, a few faces and details have been cleaned up. Ryu/Ken/Chun look A LOT better, and more like the familiar faces we've come to know. A few more details have been added, like a white smoke/energy trail following a shoryuken (my explanation sucks, but it looks good, honestly).

-- The Revenge/Ultra meter has dropped to the bottom of the screen, besides the super meter. The super meter is now partitioned to see how many EX moves you have (a full bar is 4 EX moves). At the top where the Revenge meter used to be now there's the character portrait. I think this is a pretty good idea, seeing as how the character's name disappears if someone's using a network card.

-- It seems like a few of the 2P colors have changed. Ryu is now dark blue/navy with the yellow headband. Ken is white (Daigo Ken!).

-- YES, at least two new stages. One is an outdoor industrial stage, sort of snowy, with people watching in the background. I think this is a Russian stage (Zangief?). Another...hard to describe, but the two fighters fight in a lower area while people up top cheer them on. It feels sort of like a cross betweem the poolside stage from Tekken 5, and Ken's stage from A3. In Guile's stage, we didn't see any planes flying overhead anymore, but we did notice the planes on the ground had a lot more detail and color. Though I didn't see it personally, Adverse reports that in Chun-Li's stage, there's an old guy riding a bike - if a character hits a big move, the old guy will fall off the bike, and get up sort of cursing the fighters.

-- It looks like some of the on-screen prompts have been jazzed up, like the "Ultra Combo Finish" text. Also, the win icons will reflect what kind of win you got - normal, super, ultra, perfect, etc.

Characters - Changes and Improvements

-- YES, the "Four Kings" (Shitennou) are in it and playable.

-- Did not see too much of Balrog. Didn't seem too different. His ultra is like a beefed-up version of his punch-rush super, but with the uppercuts. It seems to be able to tag people in the air and juggle them for damage.

-- Vega is reminiscent of ST. Once he gets in close, life becomes very, very bad. The claw magically switches sides as Vega does. J.FP has insane range and good priority. His ultra is a souped-up version of the wall lunge move - I saw it hit and I saw it miss plenty.

-- Sagat - C.FP is no longer the Evil Bringer of Retribution it used to be. Now, it's just a normal move. Seriously lacks pokes. However, Tiger Uppercut = too good. Regular version is one or two hits, and EX is Alpha-style multi-hit. Tiger fireballs, while gorgeous, seem to be a bit slower than before (no O.Sagat fireball traps). Tiger knee is fast, covers good ground, and doesn't seem to have any recovery. His ultra is an incredible version of the Tiger Genocide - after launching the opponent with the Tiger Uppercut, he lets them fall into a HUGE version of the Tiger Uppercut. Players today seemed to be hitting his ultra a lot.

After playing him a few times, I thought he was kinda dependant on being defensive. However, we talked to one of the best Japanese players there, who said that Sagat was strong. He then racked up a few wins with impressive usage of SA. Quite a few people were using Sagat today.

-- Bison. Some of Bison's animations are just incredible. He looks closest to his CvS2 incarnation. Slide and scissors kicks get out of recovery before the opponent gets out of blockstun. On the flipside, it looked like it was really easy to stuff the scissors kicks. Teleport is WAY fast. Psycho crusher doesn't really seem that good. Ultra is scissors kicks into psycho crusher - did not actually see anyone land it. Adverse says that it can possibly be used for anti-air. Quite a few people today used Bison as well. Don't hold me to this, but it kinda looks like his face is scarred.

El-Fuerte - Holy crap, this guy is on crack and then some. Has a forward and backwards run. Has a move where he runs at the opponent, jumps up into the air, and then does a frog-splash on the opponent. There's another version where he will perform a command throw on the way down. Has a good anti-air move where he kick-jumps into the air, and if he catches the opponent, he slams them down with a neck-breaker/hurricarana (?). Has a wall-jump that seems to cover a lot of range, and he might have an air throw. Reno used him a lot today, but we sort of felt that he was lacking. We're sort of waiting for the Japanese players to break him wide open tomorrow though.

-- Rufus....yeah. Sort of like Bob from Tekken 6, or imagine Chang with Choi's moves or something. Saw him very, very rarely today. Right now he's almost like the Dan of this game, but again, I'm waiting to see if Japanese players break him open tomorrow.

Going back tomorrow morning...

[capcom2d.com]

I hope somebody from the SFIV team reads this.

Rufus is MALE. I have confirmed this. He looks like Cheng from Fatal Fury, Bob from Tekken, Heart from HNK... you name it. He looks AMERICAN, but looks like a wanna-be Chinese fat guy. Whoever posted that in 2ch was misinformed.

He is a fat, obviously caucasian who has a half-beard (no growth on the chin, but has hair on the lip). Has one of those chinese hairdos where they are almost bald, but has a ponytail and a patch of hair. He wears a skintight suit that exposes his stomach and a patch of hair where his navel is.


This makes me sick. They decide to put in a piece of shit design like this instead of a proven good design like Dudley, Alex, Ibuki, Twelve, Yun/Yang, Hugo, or Elena. From the start I've hated the way this team is approaching this game and while I like Viper and Fuerte, Abel and Rufus are just plain trash appearance-wise. I'm starting to hope this game tanks so the franchise dies.

[Reno]

El Mexicano's moves

QCF/QCB Punch - Run backwards or forwards. Press punch again and a move comes out. Jab makes him stop, Medium is the body press (overhead), Fierce is a throw (hits standing and crouching). EX Run gives him super armor for two hits it seems.

DP+K - Anti-air throw. I think EX version just has greater priority and damage... haven't seen it do anything else.

Hold K (duration unknown) - Mexicano does a running body smash. Dunno how long you have to hold the button for, because i tried for 2 seconds and it didn't even come out. It seems best to use this after a saving attack stun.

Super is a bunch of backflips into a throw. For some reason, I think the throw you have to duck for even if you block all the backflips... this needs confirming.

Ultra combo is qcf x 2 KK - The stand on head thing. He throws opponent up by his legs, then comes crashing down with a slam.

c.fierce is his anti-air normal. Pretty good priority. I hit Chun out of j.short a couple of times with it.

j.fierce is a godly crossup. very good priority.

c.strong is his main cancel move. Good tactic that's been successful is c.short x run back x medium overhead when someone tries to poke you after blocking a c.strong.

[Kunai]

The 1P only cab had more stages, like the "Shadowloo brewery". I shit you not, the stage has the Shadowloo logo inside a barn of sorts... with a rack of beer kegs. There's also some sort of German-like dude in a kilt nearby. If you get knocked down near the kegs, they will collapse and roll everywhere. The German dude freaks out.

Another stage is your typical "fight in a coliseum background with a television screen in the background showing your fight" stage.

Why these stages aren't in the linked cabs? Not sure.

[Kunai]

This makes me sick. They decide to put in a piece of shit design like this instead of a proven good design like Dudley, Alex, Ibuki, Twelve, Yun/Yang, Hugo, or Elena. From the start I've hated the way this team is approaching this game and while I like Viper and Fuerte, Abel and Rufus are just plain trash appearance-wise. I'm starting to hope this game tanks so the franchise dies.

I think that's a bit harsh... I'm happy SFIV is in an actual form. We could have had nothing.

Rufus is decent, but like El Fuerte, he is a new character who doesn't have much to him that is apparent at first. I think they could have potential, but they will be hard to master. They could use a few more options but we'll see what happens later.

Viper and Abel are solid IMO. Good design and pretty well-rounded.

[XtraTrstrL]

I wanna see this Rufus in action. The gelatinous fat jumping around as he moves sounds cool. I'm glad they're adding all these NEW characters. Ono already mentioned that later they're gonna try to cram more older favorites in. This is the important time to lock down all the new character designs. It is SFIV, you can't just have all returning characters.

[TheDarkPhoenix]

Wish they'd use the cvs2 announcer best announcer to date

[The Mullah]

This makes me sick. They decide to put in a piece of shit design like this instead of a proven good design like Dudley, Alex, Ibuki, Twelve, Yun/Yang, Hugo, or Elena. From the start I've hated the way this team is approaching this game and while I like Viper and Fuerte, Abel and Rufus are just plain trash appearance-wise. I'm starting to hope this game tanks so the franchise dies.

Have you even seen screenshots of these characters? you're already bitching because more old characters aren't getting put in the game instead of new ones?

you want SF to tank because your 3s characters didn't get put in? You sound like a little bitch. (edit: no surprise you got negged hard for being a douche)

Thanks for the updates guys. i'd like a huge fatty to play as, should be fun. i hope he's not awful to use.

[Hotcarl6]

this is getting better and better! SF4! Its going to be good!


idk about Rufus but Cvs Dictator? AWESOME. All we need is some parrying.

[haunts]

-- The Revenge/Ultra meter has dropped to the bottom of the screen, besides the super meter. The super meter is now partitioned to see how many EX moves you have (a full bar is 4 EX moves).


Good. I always thought it would better to have the revenege and super meter in the same spot so you could quickly decide what you need to do in a match depending on how much meter you have.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

I know it's been said that chun has had changes but does she still look like a dude?

[Azrael]

About characters, the way its set up now, there are the 8 World Warriors, the divider line thing, then the 4 bosses, and then the 4 new characters underneath them. I think there's still plenty of room to add at least 4 characters on both sides of the divider line. Who knows what that will end up as - the 4 New Challengers + 4 more new characters, Akuma and 3 random Alpha/3S guys + 4 newbies, etc. But I don't think the character roster is done yet.

EDIT
Bison's country flag is Shadowloo. It made me think of "Bisonopolis". :rofl:

[Strider2k2]

This makes me sick. They decide to put in a piece of shit design like this instead of a proven good design like Dudley, Alex, Ibuki, Twelve, Yun/Yang, Hugo, or Elena. From the start I've hated the way this team is approaching this game and while I like Viper and Fuerte, Abel and Rufus are just plain trash appearance-wise. I'm starting to hope this game tanks so the franchise dies.

Sounds like you're just hating....although i agree that some SFIII characters need to be in this game....lets not judge Rufus until we can confirm he's a joke character. Then we can flame the Capcom boards all we want and tell them how much we hate playing with fat guys in fighting games and how they wasted a valuable character slot that could've been given to someone else.

Otherwise, i think the improvements (better looking faces, balanced moves/damage settings, new stages, etc.) are fine the way they are right now.
Now...if we could only get *NEW MOVES*(normals, specials, whatever) for some of the old characters...then i'd be happy. But for now, let's wait and see.

[XtraTrstrL]

Now...if we could only get *NEW MOVES*(normals, specials, whatever) for some of the old characters...then i'd be happy. But for now, let's wait and see.

Been begging for this forever now at the Capcom SFIV forum. There's no way a lot of these guys returning from SSF2 Turbo can come in without some new special normals, specials, and supers. This has to be rectified before the final build.

[azis]

You get this from cabinets?

http://www.capcom-fc.com/sf4/thumbnail/030318ic.jpg

Nobody allowed to take shots or video footage?

[Projectjustice]

Wow SF4 has completely turned into SF2 Fan service. Highly disappointing, hopefully the game is fun.

[CaliLifeStyle]

Wow SF4 has completely turned into SF2 Fan service. Highly disappointing, hopefully the game is fun.

Well it is supposed to be a "home coming" for SF2 fans according to Ono from the start of things. It's no surprise that all the SF2 characters will be in it.

[SmoothCat]

Bison have his paint move from cvs2?

[KrsJin]

I love how after each update, the negative fools who jump the gun here always get shown to be wrong lol.

Anyway, cannot wait till we see some good vids start rolling in -

Thanks for all the info now and in the future to those supplying it.

[Dingo]

Great information guys :tup: keep it coming. I am getting so hyped for this game I can't hardly wait :woot:. I'm really glad that they brought Vega(Claw) back, but Bison(Dic) came out of no where considering Akuma was supposed to kill him. Speaking of Akuma (since he was mentioned to be returning in the game early on), I wonder why they haven't had him playable (maybe you have to use the code to play as him from ST...a thought anyway).

If anyone does have the time to try out Guile and see how he is coming along, it would be greatly appreciated by me and many other Guile fans here. Thanks to all of you for keeping us updated on how the game is turning out though. I cannot wait for this game.

El Fuerte was like Ramon from KOF, but hyper and way fast with the command run. He is dangerous if you knock someone down and play wakeup games, but he is high-risk with his attacks. His Ultra is not very useful, because he will jump in the air and can only catch a grounded opponent from midscreen. It is also slow, ironically. You have to leave yourself wide open to get hit from this.

That description of El Fuerte's Ultra makes me think of Alex's Stun Gun Headbutt from 3S since you say it is easy to avoid.

[capcom2d.com]

Have you even seen screenshots of these characters? you're already bitching because more old characters aren't getting put in the game instead of new ones?

There's only one character design I haven't gotten the chance to see and I've read a good description of him and I highly dislike what I hear. If you read my post instead of running to the reply button to flame you would have seen me say I like both Fuerte and C. Viper. I actually think Viper is one of the best in-game looking models.

you want SF to tank because your 3s characters didn't get put in? You sound like a little bitch. (edit: no surprise you got negged hard for being a douche)

Yes little bitches are clearly distinguished by their negative attitudes towards SF2 rehashes and enjoyment of SF3 designs. This isn't purely based on SF3. I dislike the between SF2 and SF3 idea. I dislike the introduction of new characters, half of which I think have bad designs, over including (so far) at least one SF3 character. Now all these SF4 guys need to mysteriously leave and these SF3 guys come out of nowhere, genius. You're also so right, I got negged hard for being a douche, or I have one comment about whining that's probably from you. I'd neg you too, but it's an internet message board and I'm not a complete troll (you).

I really like SF3:3s in terms of it's presentation and I like a good portion of SF3's design. So it shouldn't be that much of a shock that I'm just dying for a little SF3 love in SF4. I'll say again that I think the gameplay looks fun and all I have to comment on is the design, which I'm actually very interested in.

But do yourself a favor and just don't even read anything I post, skip right to the reply button and type out "Wah wah wah". Sounds about right in terms of your intelligence.

[The Switcher]

http://i27.tinypic.com/25r15p1.gif

cell phone snap of dictator

[Taskmaster]

About characters, the way its set up now, there are the 8 World Warriors, the divider line thing, then the 4 bosses, and then the 4 new characters underneath them. I think there's still plenty of room to add at least 4 characters on both sides of the divider line. Who knows what that will end up as - the 4 New Challengers + 4 more new characters, Akuma and 3 random Alpha/3S guys + 4 newbies, etc. But I don't think the character roster is done yet.

EDIT
Bison's country flag is Shadowloo. It made me think of "Bisonopolis". :rofl:

For the love of god someone get me a pic of a Bison Dollar, I been looking for ages.

on-topic : I'm still praying Dee Jay makes it and that there's some more females.

[YogaFire]

Good lord, the wait for pics and vids is killing me! I need to see Claw, Dictator and Rufus in action!

[Projectjustice]

Well it is supposed to be a "home coming" for SF2 fans according to Ono from the start of things. It's no surprise that all the SF2 characters will be in it.

I just wished Capcom learned how to balance a spectrum for once.

[DaDesiCanadian]

http://i27.tinypic.com/25r15p1.gif

cell phone snap of dictator

Fail, moustache was straight.

[Nokato]

I'm sure Capcom USA will have that announcer toned back for an NA release.

Man, I wish they'd bring back the NG/2I announcer....

Seconded.

[Gutter Trash]

Bosses 4 makes the circle complete. Am happy.

El Fuerte dashing like Maki or whatever... yeah.. Honda will eat you for breakfast. Ask Cammy, Fei-Long and T.Hawk how E.Honda worked out for them. He pwns any non-projectile character like not tomorow.. eat it!

[AdverseSolutions]

Should be video of Rufus surfacing.......? Not yet it seems.

Well, Kunai, Azrael and Reno have covered most of the major changes. Only thing I would add is that Abel's 360 grab is now reverse 180, and at least seemed to be weaker to me today. Will try to test more tomorrow.

The guy using Sagat (yudaya) had some really sick strategies where he would bait a high-recovery move, SA->dash cancel->c. short->ex uppercut. Crazy damage.

Dhalsim is fucking strong...jump-back fierce is really good and perhaps should be toned down a little.

I lost the most to Dhalsim and C. Vipers, the tweaks they did to her have worked in her favor.

El Fuerte is a fun character. Yes, jokey, but not in a dumb way, in a fun way. Rufus on the other hand...I don't like the design, straightaway. But his gameplay is intriguing. You basically have to keep rushing with him to get anywhere, and he has some good options after his moves.

I'm gonna agree with people bemoaning the preponderance of SF2 characters. Particularly the 'four kings' just didn't have to be in IMO. This is probably Capcom trying to revive their IP, but nostalgia has a limit. Whatever the roster now I hope that this is the very last of the SF2 characters.

Man, Kunai's user text on his ID card is too top tier. "Let me win お願い" lol.

[Ultima]

This makes me sick. They decide to put in a piece of shit design like this instead of a proven good design like...Twelve

Holy Revisionist History Batman! FUCKING LOL. I guess you weren't around for when 3S was new, when Twelve was said to be named that because he stole moves from twelve other characters. Not to mention being a T-1000 ripoff and all that.

re: SFIV

With the exception of Vega's claw magically switching sides, and possibly the inclusion of the CvS2 announcer, everything sounds great so far!

And to those fools who are complaining about SFIV being SF2 fan service, learn to fucking read. Ono said that that's what SFIV was going to be months ago. If you're not down with that, get the fuck out and stop complaining.

[YogaFire]

http://forums.shoryuken.com/image.php?u=9577&dateline=1206411335

Hayden Panatierre?

[AdverseSolutions]

俺が居た時間はかなり空いていてほとんど待ちがなかった
プレイしてる人間の外人比率は30%位だったかも

ロケテの為に来日してたとしたらたいしたファンだな

サンクス
外人が多くきてたらしいから動画期待

:rofl:

[Lilman]

:rofl:

:confused:

[gozulin]

:rofl:


Haaahahahahahahaha! (http://lukegirl0.tripod.com/photos/EnglishMotherfucker.jpg)

[AdverseSolutions]

When I was there it was pretty empty and there wasn't much of a wait
Of the people playing about 30% were foreigners

If they came to Japan just to play SF4 they must be pretty big fans

Thanks
There were a lot of gaijin there so we can expect videos

I love Japanese people :rofl:

[Lilman]

When can we expect VIDS?! El Fuerte sounds awesome.

[haunts]

Sagat will be my main, im sure of it.

[KrsJin]

Been begging for this forever now at the Capcom SFIV forum. There's no way a lot of these guys returning from SSF2 Turbo can come in without some new special normals, specials, and supers. This has to be rectified before the final build.

Yeah, I have to agree with this too. Even just one or two new normals or one new special would suffice I think.

[P.o.t.S.]

Yeah, I have to agree with this too. Even just one or two new normals or one new special would suffice I think.
Well they all automatically have new moves because of the new system. Then Guile and Honda got overheads, Dhalsim has different jumping normals, Chun-Li is all over the place concerning her other SF appearances, and who knows what else they'll do.

Man, can't wait for those videos... if there'll be any, that is. Won't any magazine/site cover this?

[Humbag]

I WANT TO SEE THE FAT MAN.

Seriously. He sounds cool.

[FallingEdge]

SF4 is sounding amazing! Thanks for the update guys!!

[CaliLifeStyle]

Is it true no cameras were allowed?

[Nokato]

Some arcades in Japan by default don't really allow cameras. Mikado is one of them--they themselves only record tournament matches via direct feed. When it comes to beta testing--they usually frown upon it, although there's plenty of Sengoku Basara matches up. I'm thinking that they really don't want footage up of SF4 really except for official magazine publications or vids made specficially for websites.

I don't really think any legal vids will pop up. We may get lucky but I highly doubt it.

[Kataklysmic]

Rufus sounds disgusting, but maybe that's what they're shooting for with his design. Most big characters are like that anyway. And to tell you the truth, he doesn't sound anymore freakish than Zangief, so what the hell? People dissing him now must come from a line of otaku fanboys who refuse to pick ugly characters because they're not as cool as Iori or something.

Gotta wait till I see him. I might develop a liking for him since I like Chang in CVS2 anyway.

The Vega and Bison info sounds cool. I hope they'll speed up Sagat's Tigers, but it's nice to hear that he's good with everything else. No time to read up on the rest. Got too much to do. Keep it comin' guys. :D

[Azrael]

I love Japanese people :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: That's just awesome. I love Japanese people too.

Yeah, there are signs right on the cabs that prohibit photography. Usually, Capcom reps, or workers at the arcade are kind of hovering around so it would be hard to try and sneak something.

[KrsJin]

I love people :)

What sort of punishment is in line if you're caught with a camera? Do they reserve the right to take your entire camera away or ticket you? Not asking anyone to break rules or do anything unethical but.... we do want these vids ... hmmm.. lol

[Jion_Wansu]

Holy Revisionist History Batman! FUCKING LOL. I guess you weren't around for when 3S was new, when Twelve was said to be named that because he stole moves from twelve other characters. Not to mention being a T-1000 ripoff and all that.

re: SFIV

With the exception of Vega's claw magically switching sides, and possibly the inclusion of the CvS2 announcer, everything sounds great so far!

And to those fools who are complaining about SFIV being SF2 fan service, learn to fucking read. Ono said that that's what SFIV was going to be months ago. If you're not down with that, get the fuck out and stop complaining.

"Finest KO"

[Higher-Jin]

Um... I have some requems...

1. Does Claw Vega have the red impact super?

2. What does Abel play like? CvS2 Raiden or what?

3. My dog would like...um... an assistant...dog!

[Lvl.3]

Characters - Changes and Improvements

-- YES, the "Four Kings" (Shitennou) are in it and playable.

-- Did not see too much of Balrog. Didn't seem too different. His ultra is like a beefed-up version of his punch-rush super, but with the uppercuts. It seems to be able to tag people in the air and juggle them for damage.

-- Vega is reminiscent of ST. Once he gets in close, life becomes very, very bad. The claw magically switches sides as Vega does. J.FP has insane range and good priority. His ultra is a souped-up version of the wall lunge move - I saw it hit and I saw it miss plenty.

-- Sagat - C.FP is no longer the Evil Bringer of Retribution it used to be. Now, it's just a normal move. Seriously lacks pokes. However, Tiger Uppercut = too good. Regular version is one or two hits, and EX is Alpha-style multi-hit. Tiger fireballs, while gorgeous, seem to be a bit slower than before (no O.Sagat fireball traps). Tiger knee is fast, covers good ground, and doesn't seem to have any recovery. His ultra is an incredible version of the Tiger Genocide - after launching the opponent with the Tiger Uppercut, he lets them fall into a HUGE version of the Tiger Uppercut. Players today seemed to be hitting his ultra a lot.

After playing him a few times, I thought he was kinda dependant on being defensive. However, we talked to one of the best Japanese players there, who said that Sagat was strong. He then racked up a few wins with impressive usage of SA. Quite a few people were using Sagat today.

-- Bison. Some of Bison's animations are just incredible. He looks closest to his CvS2 incarnation. Slide and scissors kicks get out of recovery before the opponent gets out of blockstun. On the flipside, it looked like it was really easy to stuff the scissors kicks. Teleport is WAY fast. Psycho crusher doesn't really seem that good. Ultra is scissors kicks into psycho crusher - did not actually see anyone land it. Adverse says that it can possibly be used for anti-air. Quite a few people today used Bison as well. Don't hold me to this, but it kinda looks like his face is scarred.

El-Fuerte - Holy crap, this guy is on crack and then some. Has a forward and backwards run. Has a move where he runs at the opponent, jumps up into the air, and then does a frog-splash on the opponent. There's another version where he will perform a command throw on the way down. Has a good anti-air move where he kick-jumps into the air, and if he catches the opponent, he slams them down with a neck-breaker/hurricarana (?). Has a wall-jump that seems to cover a lot of range, and he might have an air throw. Reno used him a lot today, but we sort of felt that he was lacking. We're sort of waiting for the Japanese players to break him wide open tomorrow though.

-- Rufus....yeah. Sort of like Bob from Tekken 6, or imagine Chang with Choi's moves or something. Saw him very, very rarely today. Right now he's almost like the Dan of this game, but again, I'm waiting to see if Japanese players break him open tomorrow.

Going back tomorrow morning...

With Rufus, you didn't decribe any of his moves? :(

I knew they would bring back the fantastic four, now they just need the rest of ST, which wil happen (bets anyone?)

Has anyone tried searching nico (videos)?

[YogaFire]

I heard there was a video from this location test up on youtube for a short time. Anyone hear about this? Anyone know if it was snagged and uploaded for download?

[XtraTrstrL]

I also want to see Rufus. After hearing how he moves, the gelatinous fat squashing around sounds cool. I'd love to see him animate in this cartoony style. I like that they're using more of an SNK style on some of the new characters. I never used the big guys that much, except Chang in Capcom vs SNK 2, he was cool, coupled with baby Freddy Krueger freako. Gotta see him, Bison, Vega 'n El Fuerte in action.

[Kunai]

I love Japanese people :rofl:

That is why my IC quote is "Let me win お願い"

Because I'm an American asshole!

AMERICA FUCK YEAH

Oh yeah, button-holding-and-releasing negative edge works fine. Going to test piano-method today with C.Viper.

[The Mullah]

There's only one character design I haven't gotten the chance to see and I've read a good description of him and I highly dislike what I hear.

a DoA boob on legs hardly qualifies as a description worthy of basing an opinion on.


Yes little bitches are clearly distinguished by their negative attitudes towards SF2 rehashes and enjoyment of SF3 designs. actually you didn't say anything about rehashes, you just cried about new characters being in over your 3s chars. re-read your post.

Now all these SF4 guys need to mysteriously leave and these SF3 guys come out of nowhere, genius. oh shit, canon!:rolleyes:

I have one comment about whining that's probably from you.

i'm not a premium member atm so wrong, again.

I will accept your apology when you end up loving this game.

[XtraTrstrL]

That is why my IC quote is "Let me win お願い"

Because I'm an American asshole!

AMERICA FUCK YEAH

Oh yeah, button-holding-and-releasing negative edge works fine. Going to test piano-method today with C.Viper.

Oh, so that's the official name for the button-hold-n-release method for moves. 'Negative Edge'. Cool, been doing it forever, never knew it had an official name.

[Kunai]

Oh, so that's the official name for the button-hold-n-release method for moves. 'Negative Edge'. Cool, been doing it forever, never knew it had an official name.

Piano-method is also negative edge... check the vids at sirlin.net under Advanced Super Turbo Tips.

Ultima: No, the dude who was the commentator for CvS2 is not the same commentator for IV. Like I said before, the commentary was great last loketest. Sounds like the same guy in this loketest, but there was no special voice effects (sounded like a normal dude talking) and I swear I heard quite a bit of commentator stuff that was kinda annoying. I'll write down some of the commentator stuff when I go to the loke.

I'll also try to play more Rufus today. Reno has got El Fuerte covered. :wink:

[YogaFire]

Man, we need some goddamn vids now!

[XtraTrstrL]

Piano-method is also negative edge... check the vids at sirlin.net under Advanced Super Turbo Tips.

Ultima: No, the dude who was the commentator for CvS2 is not the same commentator for IV. Like I said before, the commentary was great last loketest. Sounds like the same guy in this loketest, but there was no special voice effects (sounded like a normal dude talking) and I swear I heard quite a bit of commentator stuff that was kinda annoying. I'll write down some of the commentator stuff when I go to the loke.

I'll also try to play more Rufus today. Reno has got El Fuerte covered. :wink:

Ahh, got-cha. So, Negative Edge, and Piano-method. LoL @ those terms.

I'm sure the commentator situation will be fixed up by release time.

And, please, give as much info on Rufus as possible. I'll be waiting on that one. I'm dying to see Vega, Bison, Rufus & El Fuerte in action already.

[Helter Skelter]

I'm gonna agree with people bemoaning the preponderance of SF2 characters. Particularly the 'four kings' just didn't have to be in IMO. This is probably Capcom trying to revive their IP, but nostalgia has a limit. Whatever the roster now I hope that this is the very last of the SF2 characters.

Yes.

[Adam Warlock]

Piano-method is also negative edge... check the vids at sirlin.net under Advanced Super Turbo Tips.


Piano isn't really negative edge, is it? I thought it just increases your chances by using both button presses and negative edge, so by pianoing you have 6 chances to get the move off.

[VManOfMana]

Negative edge is simply registering a move by releasing the button instead of pressing it.

So, if you do.

close fierce > qcf > release button

You are negative edging the fireball.

[A-Dhalsim]

Can anyone confirm how good Dhalsim's Normals are priority wise? Does anyone see top tier Sim players using ground normals to anti air and poke? Iv only heard that his jump back close fierce is like A3, which is dope. I know his teleport is faster, but is it as fast as Bisons with recovery? Please someone confirm

Cole

[Kunai]

Can anyone confirm how good Dhalsim's Normals are priority wise? Does anyone see top tier Sim players using ground normals to anti air and poke? Iv only heard that his jump back close fierce is like A3, which is dope. I know his teleport is faster, but is it as fast as Bisons with recovery? Please someone confirm

Cole

Afrocole, none of us SRK guys are really good with Dhalsim, but there is one guy named Teruchika who is tearing up people with him. Yes, he is very good with priorites and nullifies a lot of characters in this game due to his range. Also, his teleports are extremely fast and you can attack immediately when you warp. Compare this to dictator Bison, who will warp instantaneously (like Dhalsim), but dictator will have his arms folded and cannot do any moves for 1/3 to 1/2 a second.

One thing Teruchika kept doing to people (including me) would be to warp behind you and immediately do... what appears to be a jumping fierce attack that only has him off the air for a split second. It basically acts as an overhead. It looks like he's slightly jumping off the air before teleporting, reappearing behind you and hitting you from above. It's hard to block high on reaction. He then finishes with crouching jab or short (?) to fireball for knockdown. It was VERY hard to deal with unless you were expecting it, and even then, he attacks so fast that you can't do much.

Adverse said he saw the same player do something that seemed unblockable, where he would throw a fireball after he knocked you down, then immediately cancel the fireball animation into a SA... charge it, and as the fireball hits the person from behind while getting up, he will release his SA (I think he said it was a lvl 2 SA). Hopefully, he can clarify because I didn't personally see this in action.

I'll try to study more Dhalsim players if they are at the loke today... but Teruchika is far and away the best Dhalsim player for IV in Osaka, and he is easily one of the best IV players, period.

[Kunai]

Piano isn't really negative edge, is it? I thought it just increases your chances by using both button presses and negative edge, so by pianoing you have 6 chances to get the move off.

If piano method isn't negative edge, I'm sorry. :shake:

I thought it was because it followed the part about button-holding in the tutorial.

[RagingStormX]

Afrocole, none of us SRK guys are really good with Dhalsim, but there is one guy named Teruchika who is tearing up people with him. Yes, he is very good with priorites and nullifies a lot of characters in this game due to his range. Also, his teleports are extremely fast and you can attack immediately when you warp. Compare this to dictator Bison, who will warp instantaneously (like Dhalsim), but dictator will have his arms folded and cannot do any moves for 1/3 to 1/2 a second.

One thing Teruchika kept doing to people (including me) would be to warp behind you and immediately do... what appears to be a jumping fierce attack that only has him off the air for a split second. It basically acts as an overhead. It looks like he's slightly jumping off the air before teleporting, reappearing behind you and hitting you from above. It's hard to block high on reaction. He then finishes with crouching jab or short (?) to fireball for knockdown. It was VERY hard to deal with unless you were expecting it, and even then, he attacks so fast that you can't do much.

Adverse said he saw the same player do something that seemed unblockable, where he would throw a fireball after he knocked you down, then immediately cancel the fireball animation into a SA... charge it, and as the fireball hits the person from behind while getting up, he will release his SA (I think he said it was a lvl 2 SA). Adverse said it seemed unblockable. Hopefully, he can clarify because I didn't personally see this in action.

I'll try to study more Dhalsim players if they are at the loke today... but Teruchika is far and away the best Dhalsim player for IV in Osaka, and he is easily one of the best IV players, period.


Sounds to me like he is tigerkneeing the teleport in the air, just like cvs2, you can do it in air low to the ground allowing you to b+fp as soon as you come out of it. If thats just his regular teleport, that is fucking dope. Im pretty sure he is tigerkneeing it hough.

[YogaFire]

Man I'm glad Dhalsim doesn't suck. I figured they would overcompensate and make him suck in reaction to his Godliness in ST.

[Ultima]

AdverseSolutions re: CvS2 announcer

I wasn't referring to SFIV announcer as being the exact same guy as CvS2, per se. I was more thinking along the lines of an announcer that just WON'T SHUT UP. I know we've gotten used to it now, but that was a complaint (well, one of several really :)) with CvS2 back in the day: "The announcer is like SFA3, except he talks even more shit!".

Keep up the good work!

[Kataklysmic]

I hate blabbing announcers. If it's gotten that bad, then I hope you guys playing the game let Capcom know they need to cut that shit out. Since when was it necessary to say more than just "Round (#)... Fight!"?

[A-Dhalsim]

I'll try to study more Dhalsim players if they are at the loke today... but Teruchika is far and away the best Dhalsim player for IV in Osaka, and he is easily one of the best IV players, period.

Yeah if u can watch him and just see how he deals with players jumping at him. I want to know if he is using like back+ Foward or Standing Jab as anti air or if he has to resort to going to the air in order to anti-air people that jump.

Also, have you seen him slide when people jump and it actually trip them?

These are just classic ways dhalsim would use to anti-air people. It pretty much is like the basis of his combat style, the ability to counter in all situations.

Yeah, from the GDC version i played, u were able to tiger knee his Air teleport, appear behind them hit B+Fierce, low jab into Super. You could SA cancel jab fireball after a knock down and perform this as well. Not sure if that is unblockable or not, but it seems like a pretty intense lock down for sim.

Thanks for the quick report Kunai. Cant wait to play this version. GDC version was already fun enough and now it seems like they are hella cleaning the game up.

cole

[P.o.t.S.]

I just thought of a couple of questions. People have already mentioned that damage taken during a SA becomes recoverable life, or grey damage, so:

- Can you die from that type of damage?
- Do moves with super armor also take grey damage?

[CptMunta]

Godly thread, Cheers guys for all your reports, much appreciated. Here are some of my questions:

Has anyone played all the way through the P1 Cab yet?
Is there a Boss of any sort yet? I'm really hoping for a super cheap non playable boss. Do you play through the Boxer to Dictator? Or is all random?

Thanks for the breakdown on the customization. Sounds like alot of fun.

Hopefully we get some shots of Rufus and 4 Kings to tide us over till some vids come out.





The four kings sound awesome.

Rufus sounds wierd.

I hope they ditch the Annoying announcer

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

-- As was said, a few faces and details have been cleaned up. Ryu/Ken/Chun look A LOT better, and more like the familiar faces we've come to know. A few more details have been added, like a white smoke/energy trail following a shoryuken (my explanation sucks, but it looks good, honestly).

-- The Revenge/Ultra meter has dropped to the bottom of the screen, besides the super meter. The super meter is now partitioned to see how many EX moves you have (a full bar is 4 EX moves). At the top where the Revenge meter used to be now there's the character portrait. I think this is a pretty good idea, seeing as how the character's name disappears if someone's using a network card.


You don't know how happy I was to read that.

[Gutter Trash]

could you guys