73 year old man keeps daughter in basement and fathers 6 children with her

[SwmmrManShen]

this is some fucked up shit

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/04/27/austria.cellar/index.html

[iwst99]

:confused:

[ElderGOD]

:confused:

:confused:

[FlyMike]

Why the fuck are people so crazy nowadays? Actually I can't say that because this creep went officially nuts decades ago. Sigh... :shakes:

[Demon Dash]

Wow, glad I escaped early...

[Dredhead117]

:confused:

Man...how the fuck does his wife not go into the cellar for 20 fucking years.

[Satomiblood]

Why the fuck are people so crazy nowadays? Actually I can't say that because this creep went officially nuts decades ago. Sigh... :shakes:

People have been crazy since the beginning of time.

[Weeks]

native white people:shake:

[Hellion]

"Dear, where's the red wine?"

"I got it honney! no worries!"

"Dear, what's all that screaming and hollering down there?"

"Rats honey, I got 'em, no worries!"

"Rats! I hate rats!"

"I know!"

[FurryCurry]

:shake: What is with these crazy men these days?

[Alzarath]

:shake:

[JIVE TURKEY JONES]

:confused::confused:

:confused:

The other three children -- Kerstin, 19; Stefan, 18; and Felix, 5 -- remained locked in the basement with their mother, according to police. None had seen the light of day during their entire time in captivity, police said.
The 18 and 19 year old are pretty much screwed. Two decades have passed. No outside interaction. No education. The basics of literacy and math... nothing. Imagine being 20 years old, and you don't know what 6 x 5 equals. You don't know what or where Germany is. (any country, Germany is just an example) You don't even know how the world operates, period. The 5 year old, Felix, still has a chance though.

How could the mother not know a family lived in the basement? She never went down there? The daughter and her kids didn't even make one sound... for twenty years? Not even a peep? I don't know what exactly is defined as a peep... but it sounds like something that could have been made in 20 years.

Jive Out!

[Sasmasta]

:tdown:

What a read.

[Demon Dash]

Only three words right now...

Hee hee! Oww!!!

[thurst]

at the risk of contradicting like 20-30 of my posts derailing this sort of sentiment, i'll just say that someone needs to dead this guy.

[bear]

People have been crazy since the beginning of time.

Yep. We just got 24 hour news to tell us exactly how insane our neighbors are now.

[Monte]

the dude's wife should have known something was up when she saw her husband installing one of those big ass sound proof bank vaults doors for the cellar.

[Ki Shima]

holy shit :confused:

[white shadow]

Why the fuck are people so crazy nowadays? Actually I can't say that because this creep went officially nuts decades ago. Sigh... :shakes:

Sad thing is imagine the things that might have happened in the past that no one knows about. If it wasn't for modern news this incidence of depravity would've never seen international light.


Ugh... Even sadder, these kids are not only the result or rape and incest, but also have an irreparable developmental delay and will most likely face a lifetime of institutionalization. So they will still be in a state of perpetual imprisonment.

The fact that this happened in Europe means the [elderly] man will most likely end up in a minimum security prison where he'll live out the rest of his days in relative comfort. Hooray for karma.:bluu:

[Gasp]

None had seen the light of day during their entire time in captivity



fuck

[Shadow Ace 50]

worst story of 2008....damn...

[NegroNinja]

Goddamn that's evil!

[Oroman]

Sickest shit I 've read in a while. The teenagers will probably never have a normal life.

[altergenesis]

Hasn't Oedipus taught us anything?! :shake:

[Buz]

and we thought the germans were bad!

[SmoothCat]

Damn this is some sad shit

[Unreallystic]

*whipes forehead*
It wasn't a black dude...
- :bluu:

[Insomniac487]

Lots of freaky people in this world....... O_O

[SNAAAAKE]

*whipes forehead*
It wasn't a black dude...
- :bluu:

:rofl:


yeah pretty sad actually...

[CSS]

and we thought the germans were bad!

beleidigen Sie meine Leute nicht.

[Ninja Wallace]

Sad thing is imagine the things that might have happened in the past that no one knows about. If it wasn't for modern news this incidence of depravity would've never seen international light.
You think that's bad? Imagine the things that are happening right now that people haven't been and aren't going to be caught for.

[Hoonyo]

:confused:

:confused::confused:

[toha heavy ind.]

*whipes forehead*
It wasn't a black dude...
- :bluu:

Black people will shoot you.

White people will lock you in a cellar for 20 years and slowly destroy your sense of self while having babies with you and keeping them locked up.

Goddamn, this makes me hate being white.

[Monte]

here's a follow up article where they describe the cellar. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7370285.stm

I guess the door had some sort of lock where you have to put in a code... I seriously doubt the wife knew nothing, she was probably into it the freaky bitch. How your daughter goes missing, a password protected door appears and kids show up on your doorstep in a basket and you're not able to piece together the puzzle is beyond me.

[NG1313]

They should send the children to a desert island with coconut trees and waterfalls and all.

[Rhio2k]

Dammit. How the hell can I get Wes Craven to buy my screenplay for The People Under The Stairs 2 when there's crazy mofo's living that shit?!

[Broloch]

:confused: Reading that makes me want to slit my own wrists!!!

[Lebowsk1]

:woot:



oh wait, wrong one

:shake:


Enough to turn anyone emo, least of all the kids involved.

[Vynce]

What a noob. Just a basement? Get real, small-time. Real psychopaths create dungeons.

[Dencore]

:confused:
:confused:
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:confused:

[J-ride]

@ Unreallystic - You honestly thought that person could be any race but white? Seriously, it has white person written all over it, because we don't waste our time petty crimes, just the kind of crime that makes you cringe at how inhuman it is. Or white collar crime, we love to steal us some corporate monies!

Back on subject - I really don't think our justice system has the capability/cruelty to properly deal the justice that needs to be laid into this man. I can't even think of a way to punish him that would even begin to right the wrong he has done.

[catchafire]

Damn, I mean what the fuck. This man needs to be hanged... fuck hanging, he needs to suffer for a long time...

[scum gale 88]

why not try to escape during the night or something?

wait!!!

I just had an epiphany...
I know why his wife never noticed something was going on, its because she was that moron that wouldnt get off the toilet and it fused to her skin!!! anyone remember that story?

[YellowS4]

1984 :s

[jubeh]

I just had an epiphany...
I know why his wife never noticed something was going on, its because she was that moron that wouldnt get off the toilet and it fused to her skin!!! anyone remember that story?

That would explain why this guy went out of his way to have sex with his daughter, instead of his wife.

But still. :shake:

[dereklearnslow]

The wife HAD to know. They both should be tortured for 20 years.

[MrBlank]

Damn, I mean what the fuck. This man needs to be hanged... fuck hanging, he needs to suffer for a long time...

yeah about how much longer the guy is 73....

the dude probably wont remember shit about whats going on in like a year or 2.

[blackartsviper]

I consider myself civilized, but this motherfucker needs to pay with his life. There needs to be some good ole fashioned street justice. Hang his ass, shoot his ass, electrify, burn him at the stake. ANYTHING couldn't be cruel for this motherfucker.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

In the end, white people are top tier at everything.

[ElderGOD]

In the end, white people are top tier at everything.

That's funny, I see them lose at everything.

[Rhio2k]

That's funny, I see them lose at everything.

They're top tier at that, too.

[VR-Fist]

Totally unbelievable. It has a potential to be a movie "based on a real story".

[Galactic]

Fucking disgusting...

If ANY kids had a good excuse to be emo, it's these kids.

^_-;

[PcLanAdmin2]

How the hell did the wife not know about it?!!? Was the soundproofing that good?

[Hatred Edge]

Man I believe the wife was in on it. The fuck bastard.

[fishjie]

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the wife had to be in on it.

the punishment should be that the old guy gets raped by his grandchildren. wait, are they his grandchildren or kids? cause they're both at the same time....

:confused::confused::confused::confused:

[beatsofdevil]

please, let's not let confused become extinct like our long-gone friend CLAP

[debs]

what the FUCK.
like...
what the FUCK??

[Nashville_Ninja]

What a noob. Just a basement? Get real, small-time. Real psychopaths create dungeons.

HAHAH, Dungeon with gimp assist is too top tier. On another thought, are the kids alittle tarded? Doesn't mating with a blood relative cause retardation? Damn that sucks, fucking bastard just made worst news of 2008 and its only April.

[Sephiroth_KMFDM]

Having your own sex slave for so many years, and it being your own daughter on top of it? I'm... i'm envious and hard.

[white shadow]

It's day 2 and this story still disturbs me. If I believed in a hell, this guy would need a 113th level dedicated to him, preferably a single room suite.

[Jaldaboath]

Having your own sex slave for so many years, and it being your own daughter on top of it? I'm... i'm envious and hard.

:rofl::rofl:

[Rhio2k]

HAHAH, Dungeon with gimp assist is too top tier. On another thought, are the kids alittle tarded? Doesn't mating with a blood relative cause retardation? Damn that sucks, fucking bastard just made worst news of 2008 and its only April.

You would need multiple generations of inbreeding for recesseive genes and other junk to show up and cause problems. You wouldn't believe how many people married their sisters cuz their parents split up and each kept a kid, then the kids got together later in life cuz they had such similar interests and tastes, not knowing they were related. They all had kids that had no problems. Except for the couples who's parents were also brother and sister.

[Sephiroth_KMFDM]

He would have got away with it if it weren't for the meddling kids!

[DarthTrey]

Damn Aussies is crazy. I think it's cuz they are stuck on that bloody island.

[coco_j]

^ Yo he was Austrian fool. Not Australian.

[RushedDown]

bitch shoulda had some flash cards, magazines and pen and paper so she could teach the kids to read and write at least

i mean im sure the way that the dad was dicking her down on the regular at least woulda earned her the right to get some shit so she could make sure her kids didnt grow up to be illiterate and shit

its a horrible story and i feel for them
but she shoulda been looking out for them kids more and doing what she could to make sure they would be able to survive if they ever got out

its jsut a case of bad parenting on both ends

[Obkb]

:shake: What is with these crazy men these days?

Aside from this situation, which is a media story of twisted uniqueness, it's probably not as uncommon as reality deprived people may think.

[Separate Point]
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you referring to how they find a new dismembered female corpse in a barrel bouncing off the rocks several times a day every day?

I'll assume you're talking about male crimes against females. To that I'll say it's a backlash of guys long suffering fake marriages for 80% of their wealth, inequality in courts, social responsibilities and society's irresponsibilities in return. You got so many women blackmailing guys because they know they can have their way.

I wouldn't expect anything but this type of behavior to continue. Watch out for the daughters of our generation. Get them some mandatory self defense instruction or something because this behavior is going to escalate to never before seen heights.

Since women are equals, they should be just fine.
[ /Separate Point]

bitch shoulda had some flash cards, magazines and pen and paper so she could teach the kids to read and write at least

i mean im sure the way that the dad was dicking her down on the regular at least woulda earned her the right to get some shit so she could make sure her kids didnt grow up to be illiterate and shit


HAHAHA.

[CPS_3]

Damn Aussies is crazy. I think it's cuz they are stuck on that bloody island.

LoL no kangaroos here, dude

[3b1r4h]

geez. at least it wasn't in america.

[Pinion]

Man...how the fuck does his wife not go into the cellar for 20 fucking years.

Seriously! That's what I'd like to know! This topic gets a big WTF from me. :confused:

[Arsenal]

Have you guys seen the father? Dude looks twisted. And lol at the wife claiming the husband didn't "allow" her to set foot in the basement.

[TrueSephiroth]

This is unbelievable, and to think, that the possibility of this being real across the world, and this being only but one incident is actually true. Gah...disgusting and outrageous in my eyes.

Hopefully the daughter and the 6 kids can at least live some sort of a solid life from now on, although the trauma from this will never truly be gone, sad really.

[Gasp]

http://gizmodo.com/385313/how-an-electronic-lock-helped-a-crazy-austrian-man-keep-his-daughter-as-a-sex-slave-for-24-years

[Capn Spanky]

Not only is this guy one TWISTED SICK S.O.B., but his wife is an Ignorant simpleton if she didn't realize something was up.

Why do women make it so easy to hide things from them? If only they paid their share of the bills.

[tsoteddy]

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[merdoc]

wish i had a deathnote right about now...

[Chachi]

I'm surprised we haven't made a "Creepy Old Man" thread yet. News like this is starting to pop up all the time now.

[BunnyHead]

Yeh I heard about this

very disturbing:shake::shake::confused::confused:

[Adam Warlock]

None had seen the light of day during their entire time in captivity

fuck

Bitch gave birth to half of SRK.

[RaishinX]

Fucking AW :rofl:

[white shadow]

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/austrian-incest-suspect-eyed-in-killing/20080427123809990001

AMSTETTEN, Austria (April 30) - Police are looking into possible links between a young woman's killing and the man who confessed to holding his daughter captive for 24 years and fathering her seven children, a senior law enforcement official said Wednesday.

Alois Lissl, the chief of police of Upper Austria province, told The Associated Press that although no evidence had surfaced so far, police have widened their investigation into the unsolved murder 22 years ago to include the incest suspect.

The bound body of 17-year-old Martina Posch was found on a shore of the Upper Austrian lake of Mondsee in 1986. Josef Fritzl's wife owned part of an inn and camping ground on the other side of the lake at that time.

Fritzl would be asked for an alibi because the property owned by his wife could mean he was in the area when Posch was killed, Lissl said.

"We are looking at the case from a third angle," he said of the new direction the investigation has taken.

Fritzl, 73, confessed Monday to imprisoning his daughter Elisabeth for 24 years in a warren of soundproofed cellar rooms, sexually abusing her, fathering seven children with her and discarding the body of an one, who died in infancy, in a furnace.

On Tuesday, tests confirmed that the retired electrician is the biological father of his daughter's six surviving children.

Three of the children were locked in the underground labyrinth with their mother for years.

The case started unfolding on April 19 when one of the children held captive was found unconscious and was taken to a hospital. After receiving a tip, police picked up Elisabeth and her father on Saturday. Fritzl freed the captive children the same day.

Authorities say Fritzl led his wife to believe that Elisabeth had run away to join a religious cult when she disappeared.


As if this story wasn't fucked up enough already, now he might be a possible serial killer. Fucking waste of space. I can't believe that 15 years in prison is the likely sentence for this shitbag, this shit is too heinous for a standard ruling.

[Weeks]

wait, why is 15 years the likely sentence?

[white shadow]

wait, why is 15 years the likely sentence?

From Gasp's link:

All that aside, perhaps the most shocking aspect of the case is that Frtizl is looking at a maximum of 15 years in prison if convicted of rape. At 73, he would probably not live out the term—but the punishment doesn't come anywhere near fitting the crime if you ask me. Even a quick death wouldn't fit the bill.

[OrangeCat]

As much as I pains me to say this, I say to put the 3 older children in a cage on display for the whole world to gawk at. With such a degree of physical and emotional trauma, the world is basically going to be looking at these 3 living trainwrecks with continued surprise and curiosity as to how they will recover or IF they could ever recover. Basically said, game over for those guys, you might as well show them for what the world is going to treat them as; psychological studies for the next few decades.

OC

[P. Gorath]

havent been following this too closely so maybe some of this has been cleared up so help me out -

1. What do the grandkids look like? The original article said they had never been exposed to sunlight before. Movies have taught me that this means their eyelids have grown shut over their eyes, they look like albinos and their spines are all messed up and they have no teeth. True?

2. Somewhat related to #1 - Why didn't he start raping the granddaughter? Or did he? You would think if he started boning the daughter at age 11 he would move on and start hitting the granddaughter instead of continuing to plow a 40 yr old who had passed 7 kids. Maybe granddaughter was too ugly due to albino/incest combo?

[Beatrice]

This is soo sick. O_o

[TheDarkPhoenix]

sick:tdown:

[defcon]

2. Somewhat related to #1 - Why didn't he start raping the granddaughter? Or did he? You would think if he started boning the daughter at age 11 he would move on and start hitting the granddaughter instead of continuing to plow a 40 yr old who had passed 7 kids. Maybe granddaughter was too ugly due to albino/incest combo?


I think he did/tried to rape the granddaughter. The strange convlusions and other symptoms the press described the gd having could very likely have been side effects of drugs Josef Fritzl tried to use on her.

Sexy time, indeed.

[Beatrice]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/3891700/__Horrorvader__bekent__.html

See the Austrain people how they have a stupid grin while they got an interview which I don't understand!

[Soundbwoy]

This whole story is useless without pics of captive people

[ULTRAMAN]

Heard it on the radio......really fucked up.


Death is not enough for this guy....or jail...... THIS GUY NEEDS TO HAVE HIS BALLS CUT OFF:mad:

[Jimmy Bones]

The story is for real.

I just saw it on the news today,
Such a cruel world. :shake:


That guy looks like a fucking bastard, creepy when he smiles.
That son of a bitch, it aint fuckin nice.

[Kyokuji]

Wow, what the fuck.
That dude's wife is either really daft, or she's full of shit.

[OrangeCat]

Wow, what the fuck.
That dude's wife is either really daft, or she's full of shit.
It might be easy to say that "Hey where the fuck was the wifey?" but the news said that he basically constructed a dungeon under the house complete with the entrance having a keypad that needed a code to be inputted. Plus the guy seemed to be a total authoritarian so basically he had the missus on lock.

OC

[coffeerox]

wait a minute 15yrs wtf? How is that so? There's false imprisonment, incest, rape, kidnapping, so many charges and it all only totals out to 15?

[BIGWORM]

Good god.

Guantanamo Bay?

[Weeks]

wait a minute 15yrs wtf? How is that so? There's false imprisonment, incest, rape, kidnapping, so many charges and it all only totals out to 15?

Euro justice. It's like normal justice, only faggier

[Aching Cummers]

this just in. 73 year old man's son also frequently made visits to the people under the stairs

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/05/01/austria.inquest/index.html