View Full Version : They... they took my jooorb!
voodazz
04-28-2008, 06:36 PM
Okay, a couple of days ago I finally got a meeting with a client to animate online comic books for her. It's a pretty damn sweet gig, too--basically she'll send me images of the artwork done by talented artists from all over the world and I go into flash and after effects and I turn them into 2 minute animated episodes. (30 episodes in all)
Personally, I've always wanted to take a job like this, so much so that I actually charged less than I would normally.
I had a pretty good feeling after the meeting that and started prepping everything to start the job once she started sending me the files. Done deal right? WRONG.
Tonight I got an email from her telling me that she decided to go with another design firm that charged a lot less than my already discounted price.
And where is this firm located, you ask? Why no other place than Mexico City! She did this despite saying that she wanted to stick with a local animator.
I quoted 600 bucks per minute which is an absolute steal considering what she wanted done, but there's no way I can compete with firm that only charges 450 dollars per minute! I would end up losing money!
During my blind rage, I actually found myself saying "Those fuckers took my job!!", then I laughed because I sounded just like those rednecks on that south park episode.
What a kick in the balls. oh well.
Bob Sagat
04-28-2008, 06:40 PM
Dude, that sucks... What can I say? They always want it faster and cheaper, no matter how good you are...
Hope something even better comes along that actually goes through!
MAGUS1234
04-28-2008, 06:41 PM
lol, funny shit.
Las Vegas Pimp
04-28-2008, 06:43 PM
Damn how much $ would you have made in the end? Would you lose a lot more if you done it for $400 a minute?
Hoonyo
04-28-2008, 06:46 PM
$450 x 60 = $27000
$600 x 60 = $36000
Vasqy..?
04-28-2008, 06:49 PM
Damn...sorry man.
Better luck next time?
Power Man Fox
04-28-2008, 07:17 PM
Jesus, how would you have lost money? How much time would you have taken to do all the episodes?
ckrazy
04-28-2008, 07:32 PM
Don't take it personal it just strictly business ^_^ nah but on the real that does suck hope you find a better client.
TheSix
04-28-2008, 07:42 PM
.....dey tuk yur jerb!
BlackShinobi
04-28-2008, 07:45 PM
That sucks. Now I feel bad for laughing through most of the story because of the title. Oh well pretty soon the dollar will fall low enough that Mexicans won't be able to compete with you, so I guess thats good.....sort of.
Your getting paid that much? Geez. Sucks that you lost the job though.
DaDesiCanadian
04-28-2008, 07:59 PM
Once you accepted the deal, you didn't sign any contracts? You gotta make sure all that's finalized before she starts sending you the files man..
SirSmoov
04-28-2008, 08:01 PM
wow....thats alot of moneyz...didnt know flash animators was ballin' like that...though flash is a bitch to work with.....are u part of a team or does all that go into your pocket?? u got a degree??
Oh well pretty soon the dollar will fall low enough that Mexicans won't be able to compete with you, so I guess thats good.....sort of.
nah...we'll all be usin' the Amero within the next year or so :shake: damn you bush administration
voodazz
04-28-2008, 08:12 PM
Once you accepted the deal, you didn't sign any contracts? You gotta make sure all that's finalized before she starts sending you the files man..
It was the initial meeting, basically doing price quotes, work hours, etc. Nothing was finalized, but like I said before, I had a pretty good feeling about the meeting and she seemed happy with the price and I met all her qualifications, including the only local talent with the degree of skill she was looking for. I knew she was looking at a couple of other local animators, but I knew them personally and although they are very talented in their own right, this kind of thing was not their forte...soooo why WOULDN'T she sign with me right? I figured she'd let them down and we would officially get down to business lol!
I knew she was shopping around, but the whole Mexican connection really threw me. Serves me right for being so cocky I guess.
DaDesiCanadian
04-28-2008, 08:32 PM
Live and learn I guess. Damn Mexicans. :mad: :rofl:
What type of work do you do exactly?
.....dey tuk yur jerb!
DERK A DERR
Hellion
04-28-2008, 10:02 PM
there's only one solution to this crisis.
PM-GW. We must invade Mexico.
Weeks
04-28-2008, 10:16 PM
holy christ, 600 a minute.
Superking
04-28-2008, 10:19 PM
there's only one solution to this crisis.
PM-Lou Dobbs. We must invade Mexico.
There ya go.
Eminent
04-28-2008, 10:32 PM
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that sucks, but since were on the topic do u have examples of your work. Or a DA or website? Always glad 2 see artists out there but damn $600 a min thats MTV cribs shit right there lol.
"You see this table right here? The trim alone cost me 3 minutes"
ugh had to quote this
I really don't think he gets paid $600 per minute OF WORK. It's per minute of video. Thus a two hour minute long Flash movie would net $600 x 2 = $1,200 for however long it took him to complete.
If it took him half an hour, he wouldn't be billing the client $18,000 for half an hour's worth of work.
You fucking idiots.
For clarification:
Of course its for per minute of work. I can't speak for others nor will I make the mistake of assuming for them, but I simply find a job/career where u can make $600 for a minute of video/animation as a great. And not to mention if your good @t what you do it may not take u as much time as others to complete the same job and its almost like free money. Simple math.
But lets "assume" for a second that.
If a normal animator puts in 40 hours per week for 1 min of animation @ $600 that their basically making $15 per hour worked.
but if this dude could do the same 2 mins in the same amount of time as a normal animator hes making twice the money per hour.
Again assuming, but some of us are just blown by the amount of guaranteed money and possibly thinking by the way this guy is talking (like he said "cocky") that it would/is a cake job for him. I mean who knows, if the guy could do $600 worth of work in 10 hours or less or whatever (without hard labor) its still enough to get a high five from me.
BUT:
I will add to your post that if anyone is thinking the dude is making money ($600) paid per minute of WORKING then they deserve the "fucking idiot" right under their Username.
Carpet Lint
04-28-2008, 10:52 PM
I really don't think he gets paid $600 per minute OF WORK. It's per minute of video. Thus a two hour minute long Flash movie would net $600 x 2 = $1,200 for however long it took him to complete.
If it took him half an hour, he wouldn't be billing the client $18,000 for half an hour's worth of work.
You fucking idiots.
TheSix
04-28-2008, 10:58 PM
^^
Ya know, I was going to say something to that effect, but I refrained.
No, it's true. Animators get paid between 10 and 15 million dollars a week. If you are in the animation field, and you aren't a billionaire in your first year, then you are a complete fuck up.
I personally charge $750 for every 15 seconds of work. I also travel only by jet. And whenever I get to my destination, I have the jet burned and catapulted into the ocean, because I never use the same one twice.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to animate an icon for a website, then purchase another country with the proceeds, which I will also set on fire.
ElderGOD
04-29-2008, 12:25 AM
No, it's true. Animators get paid between 10 and 15 million dollars a week. If you are in the animation field, and you aren't a billionaire in your first year, then you are a complete fuck up.
I personally charge $750 for every 15 seconds of work. I also travel only by jet. And whenever I get to my destination, I have the jet burned and catapulted into the ocean, because I never use the same one twice.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to animate an icon for a website, then purchase another country with the proceeds, which I will also set on fire.
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DaDesiCanadian
04-29-2008, 12:36 AM
:rofl:
People thought it was per MINUTE OF WORK??
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:amazed::woot::confused::shake::mad::wonder: <--- i just made $10k
PsychoSquall
04-29-2008, 01:00 AM
you peasants... I make that much $$$ PER SECOND!!
I personally charge $750 for every 15 seconds of work. I also travel only by jet. And whenever I get to my destination, I have the jet burned and catapulted into the ocean, because I never use the same one twice.
but the question is... do you use the same catapult twice?!
also why have i still not gotten my $500k yet for staying up at 3 AM to make my avatar, DAMN i done got scammed!
MagnetGenocide
04-29-2008, 02:21 AM
DAM that's alot of money lol and i thought i made bank doing tattoos.
i basically make over 100-200$ hour depending on what i do hahahhaha
BlackShinobi
04-29-2008, 04:27 AM
No, it's true. Animators get paid between 10 and 15 million dollars a week. If you are in the animation field, and you aren't a billionaire in your first year, then you are a complete fuck up.
I personally charge $750 for every 15 seconds of work. I also travel only by jet. And whenever I get to my destination, I have the jet burned and catapulted into the ocean, because I never use the same one twice.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to animate an icon for a website, then purchase another country with the proceeds, which I will also set on fire.
:rofl::pray:
OMG Bill gates is a puppet controlled by a shadowed organization of flash animators. I knew it!
Weeks
04-29-2008, 05:05 AM
I really don't think he gets paid $600 per minute OF WORK. It's per minute of video.
No way, I thought he made 6 million a week!!
Yes I am aware it's for minute of product. It still seems like a lot of money to me.
Ryu & Ken
04-29-2008, 06:11 AM
Damn Goobers
Alzarath
04-29-2008, 06:43 AM
@_@ Some dumb people in this thread :confused:
coco_j
04-29-2008, 06:55 AM
Well if you already had the files, and really wanted the job maybe you could have started just to show how good you are. She might have reconsidered.
Anyway, sorry about your loss. It's something I'd love to do myself one day.
EveryFlowerFlow
04-29-2008, 07:29 AM
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People thought it was per MINUTE OF WORK??
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In fairness that is what he typed.
bear killed the thread.
Satomiblood
04-29-2008, 07:34 AM
holy christ, 600 a minute.
I know. I almost fell out of my chair. Wow, per minute of video. How many minutes in an episode?
voodazz
04-29-2008, 07:39 AM
:rofl: Man, you guys crack me up. If I was making 600 dollars a minute, I'd buy all of you and make you wash my fleet of Bentleys.
Yeah, I probably should have been more specific, but those of you with a brain already figured it out.
RaishinX
04-29-2008, 07:53 AM
This thread went from sad to funny in like 240 dollars.
Weeks
04-29-2008, 07:57 AM
I know. I almost fell out of my chair. Wow, per minute of video. How many minutes in an episode?
36 g's for one job seems like a lot of money to me. I guess I'm alone in that, but whatever.
Bounce
04-29-2008, 07:58 AM
Sorry man, shit happens. Let's hope the quality doesn't suffer.
Evilest thought to come:
go there and take their jobs.......then their women :wonder:
Satomiblood
04-29-2008, 07:58 AM
36 g's for one job seems like a lot of money to me. I guess I'm alone in that, but whatever.
That's a lot of money to me too.
Edit: I just cost my company $600 with this post.
Weeks
04-29-2008, 08:01 AM
That's a lot of money to me too.
Edit: I just cost my company $600 with this post.
I read somewhere once that if Bill Gates was carrying a $2,000 laptop, and he dropped it down on the ground; in the time it took him to bend over and pick it up he had already made more than enough to just buy a new one
Satomiblood
04-29-2008, 08:07 AM
I also read that Bill Gates hates Polio
BananaWeed
04-29-2008, 08:10 AM
DEY TUKK UR JERB!
Haha that sucks though. Don't worry, other jobs will come along where you can charge your normal rates of $600+ per minute. :)
jaded
04-29-2008, 08:12 AM
why does SRK turn into a place to tell each other's griefs? how about being a man and just dealing with it instead of crying about it? i mean jesus, get another job then and/or charge less and/or develop more skills. just do it.
how about some posts of how well people are doing?
it sounds like this place is turning into an emo building factory/pond.
voodazz
04-29-2008, 09:12 AM
why does SRK turn into a place to tell each other's griefs? how about being a man and just dealing with it instead of crying about it? i mean jesus, get another job then and/or charge less and/or develop more skills. just do it.
how about some posts of how well people are doing?
it sounds like this place is turning into an emo building factory/pond.
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Now I'm going to have to make another thread about how much you hurt my feelings.
ToyRobotTerror
04-29-2008, 09:25 AM
why does SRK turn into a place to tell each other's griefs? how about being a man and just dealing with it instead of crying about it? i mean jesus, get another job then and/or charge less and/or develop more skills. just do it.
how about some posts of how well people are doing?
it sounds like this place is turning into an emo building factory/pond.
lets hug and be friends
Satomiblood
04-29-2008, 09:28 AM
why does SRK turn into a place to tell each other's griefs? how about being a man and just dealing with it instead of crying about it? i mean jesus, get another job then and/or charge less and/or develop more skills. just do it.
how about some posts of how well people are doing?
it sounds like this place is turning into an emo building factory/pond.
Who else should we talk to? Real people? Get the fuck outta here with that shit!
tondashocka
04-29-2008, 10:08 AM
BananaWeed's AV looks like that man is smoking a big limp penis.
jaded
04-29-2008, 10:09 AM
BananaWeed's AV looks like that man is smoking a big limp penis.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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