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BEWD
06-02-2008, 02:59 PM
Key to All Optical Illusions Discovered Jeanna Bryner
Senior Writer
LiveScience.com
Mon Jun 2, 9:50 AM ET



Humans can see into the future, says a cognitive scientist. It's nothing like the alleged predictive powers of Nostradamus, but we do get a glimpse of events one-tenth of a second before they occur.

And the mechanism behind that can also explain why we are tricked by optical illusions.


Researcher Mark Changizi of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in New York says it starts with a neural lag that most everyone experiences while awake. When light hits your retina, about one-tenth of a second goes by before the brain translates the signal into a visual perception of the world.


Scientists already knew about the lag, yet they have debated over exactly how we compensate, with one school of thought proposing our motor system somehow modifies our movements to offset the delay.


Changizi now says it's our visual system that has evolved to compensate for neural delays, generating images of what will occur one-tenth of a second into the future. That foresight keeps our view of the world in the present. It gives you enough heads up to catch a fly ball (instead of getting socked in the face) and maneuver smoothly through a crowd. His research on this topic is detailed in the May/June issue of the journal Cognitive Science,


Explaining illusions


That same seer ability can explain a range of optical illusions, Changizi found.


"Illusions occur when our brains attempt to perceive the future, and those perceptions don't match reality," Changizi said.


Here's how the foresight theory could explain the most common visual illusions - geometric illusions that involve shapes: Something called the Hering illusion, for instance, looks like bike spokes around a central point, with vertical lines on either side of this central, so-called vanishing point. The illusion tricks us into thinking we are moving forward, and thus, switches on our future-seeing abilities. Since we aren't actually moving and the figure is static, we misperceive the straight lines as curved ones.


"Evolution has seen to it that geometric drawings like this elicit in us premonitions of the near future," Changizi said. "The converging lines toward a vanishing point (the spokes) are cues that trick our brains into thinking we are moving forward - as we would in the real world, where the door frame (a pair of vertical lines) seems to bow out as we move through it - and we try to perceive what that world will look like in the next instant."


Grand unified theory


In real life, when you are moving forward, it's not just the shape of objects that changes, he explained. Other variables, such as the angular size (how much of your visual field the object takes up), speed and contrast between the object and background, will also change.


For instance, if two objects are about the same distance in front of you, and you move toward one of the objects, that object will speed up more in the next moment, appear larger, have lower contrast (because something that is moving faster gets more blurred), and literally get nearer to you compared with the other object.


Changizi realized the same future-seeing process could explain several other types of illusions. In what he refers to as a "grand unified theory," Changizi organized 50 kinds of illusions into a matrix of 28 categories. The results can successfully predict how certain variables, such as proximity to the central point or size, will be perceived.


Changizi says that finding a theory that works for so many different classes of illusions is "a theorist's dream."


Most other ideas put forth to explain illusions have explained one or just a few types, he said.
The theory is "a big new player in the debate about the origins of illusions," Changizi told LiveScience. "All I'm hoping for is that it becomes a giant gorilla on the block that can take some punches."

source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080602/sc_livescience/keytoallopticalillusionsdiscovered

StuartHayden
06-02-2008, 03:01 PM
So, me having sex dreams means I'm predicting my next lay?

DropOff
06-02-2008, 03:03 PM
Guess the psychic dragon punches ARE real.

amandainnswooo
06-02-2008, 03:04 PM
I am confused after the first sentance

BEWD
06-02-2008, 03:42 PM
I am confused after the first sentence.

Hooked on phonics.

But yea, 1/10ths of a second isn't really all that much, pretty much just goes with last second reaction/reflexes, but thought that was pretty cool anyways.

The Chief
06-02-2008, 03:45 PM
Look at your computer monitor, close your eyes, look away, open your eyes...

...presumably, for 1/10th of a second you should see your computer screen when you open you eyes.

Galactic
06-02-2008, 04:07 PM
We can see 1/10th of a second into the "future"?

More like we're all stuck 1/10th a second in the fucking past...

^_-;

Alzarath
06-02-2008, 04:09 PM
That explains Daigo.

Will Gotti
06-02-2008, 04:13 PM
Look at your computer monitor, close your eyes, look away, open your eyes...

...presumably, for 1/10th of a second you should see your computer screen when you open you eyes.

That's just image imprinting.

iwst99
06-02-2008, 04:17 PM
Now scrubs on consoles/GGPO/Kaillera can also complain that they lost cause of "Neural Lag"

Neural Lag abuse FTW.

R | C
06-02-2008, 04:21 PM
Seeing into the future without being above 88 miles per hour?
Blasphemy !

DaDesiCanadian
06-02-2008, 04:27 PM
All jokes aside, that is fucking amazing.

Bob Sagat
06-02-2008, 04:33 PM
Look at your computer monitor, close your eyes, look away, open your eyes...

...presumably, for 1/10th of a second you should see your computer screen when you open you eyes.

Of course not.
It says in the article it's based on your expectation. As soon as you look away, your expectation will change, thus you will not see your monitor for 1/10th of a second.

This might work if you were sitting in a chair that could be rotated by someone without you knowing it.

Mario Lemieux!
06-02-2008, 04:51 PM
All the clocks in my house live 5 minutes into the future. I often find it frustrating when I get to work/school and realize that every one else is still in the present today of 5 minutes behind the future.

Ki Shima
06-02-2008, 05:51 PM
im not being funny but I predicted this ages ago, well what I mean is I know how its done and how the mind is what it is purely because of a cultivated psychological conditioning that is invisible to our current perception

also look at how the first time you watch a film, it's usually taking you on a journey during a certain concious time frame, but if you were to watch it again it happens much faster cos you skip a lot of non key moments because of the concerntration on the conciously memorized key moments your mind is more interested in seeing again. but if you were anticipating a moment for yourself or for a third person then it happens much slower, you/I pick up a few new things when your anticipaion is more on the subconcious level.

also music has time altering powers too, which is one way tribal people in the past and today use rythmic beats/tones (sometimes smoking) to carry them on another plane of thinking


I seriously dont know if I made any sense to anyone :rofl: but its cool that theyve found a way to explain this thing in the worlds current way of thinking


edit: also I would like to say, if i werent so lazy I would be the next daigo :wgrin:

brokenstep
06-02-2008, 06:09 PM
??? wow, the brain can imagine things. it's not seeing into the future folks, it's guessing.

Havoc
06-02-2008, 06:26 PM
I have Sharingan

igotalottastuff
06-02-2008, 06:38 PM
I'm pretty sure the brain just draws an outline if anything.

True Grave
06-02-2008, 07:29 PM
I remember when i was really young, i used to have brief dreams about stuff all the time, that would later come TRUE.

That does not happen anymore though.

Jimmy Bones
06-02-2008, 07:33 PM
I wonder when i'll die? Must go prepare a must-do list.
Just like Homer did.

Havoc
06-02-2008, 07:37 PM
^^^^

Leave.

Jimmy Bones
06-02-2008, 07:38 PM
Just ignore me.

@ True Grave: It happened to me too, i guess it happened to everyone.

white shadow
06-02-2008, 07:43 PM
Hearing and touch behaviors similarly as well. There's been tests where people and animals react to stimuli before the brain gets the nerve signal to react, which makes some speculate that they are reacting to a premonition.

Black Chanler
06-02-2008, 07:46 PM
I remember when i was really young, i used to have brief dreams about stuff all the time, that would later come TRUE.

That does not happen anymore though.

Yeah, that use to happen to me too.

Shinto
06-02-2008, 07:48 PM
I remember when i was really young, i used to have brief dreams about stuff all the time, that would later come TRUE.

That does not happen anymore though.

Seriously.

It happened to me too.

Alzarath
06-02-2008, 07:53 PM
That shit still happens to me.

TS
06-02-2008, 08:04 PM
Let's test this out: did anyone have a dream about DiGiorno last night?

AdverseSolutions
06-02-2008, 08:15 PM
Let's test this out: did anyone have a dream about DiGiorno last night?

No but I had a dream about a UPS strike

The Chief
06-02-2008, 08:16 PM
That's just image imprinting.

Actually yeah, I made that shit up...

...I just wanted random people to try it at their computers.

This entire idea is theory anyway.

Ki Shima
06-02-2008, 08:18 PM
since we're talking about dreams iv had a lot of dreams about reconstructions to the area I grew up in that actually took place years after right down to the choice of colour of i think just one of the replaced, the last one i can remmeber was half a decade ago. dreams like that are ones i can remember.

I look at preminitions as highly complex calculations.

Faight
06-02-2008, 08:42 PM
I've seen the future and it will be
I've seen the future and it will be
Batman, Batman
I've seen the future and it will be
Batman (House, house)
"And where, and where is the Batman?"

BananaWeed
06-02-2008, 08:47 PM
I don't think it's seeing into the "future". As you grow, your brain records 'scripts' that affect your behavior/perception in specific settings/situations. When you encounter similar situations, the appropriate scripts are activated and used by the brain, which uses these scripts to fill in gaps of missing information.

""In sum, a script is a hypothesized cognitive structure that when activiated organizes comprehension of event-based situations".

Scripts seem to help "fill the gaps" in comprehension. Some studies have shown that in recall of described events with part of the script left out, people falsely recall the missing script events. People seem to rememer the generic script with some specific modifications. Events reordered in a common script are recalled as being closer in order to the general script. "

More info: http://faculty.babson.edu/krollag/org_site/soc_psych/abelson_script.html

TS
06-02-2008, 09:58 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestalt_psychology#Properties