View Full Version : Tomonobu Itagaki quits Tecmo, files suit
Lobelia Mk. IV
06-03-2008, 12:59 AM
Fuck Kotaku. Here is a better link: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168056 -Sep
:pray: There IS a god.
Perhaps this means that Dead or Alive 5 won't suck monkey nuts.
Einlanzer
06-03-2008, 01:13 AM
poor oatmeal face.
Humbag
06-03-2008, 01:15 AM
Dead of Alive 5: Dead Alive
Superking
06-03-2008, 01:15 AM
Best news for this day.
Septimus Prime
06-03-2008, 01:16 AM
Although this is legit, you're lucky you didn't post that Sucktaku link in GD.
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 01:16 AM
I'm stupid.
Changing posts is way better than actually saying something substantive.
Anyway...meh. Sucks that he got screwed over. Assuming he did.
Henaki
06-03-2008, 01:17 AM
I truly feel sorry to all the fans of the games I have made.
me too, itagaki, me too...
Lobelia Mk. IV
06-03-2008, 01:24 AM
Changing posts is way better than actually saying something substantive.
I know, right? ^_^
But yeah. I actually found this link while trolling the dick out of Gaia, which is something I do often.
I was like...wait. A worthwhile link on GAIA?! And...
*uses search function*
...It's NOT ON SRK YET?
That was a mindfuck.
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 01:27 AM
I know, right? ^_^
But yeah. I actually found this link while trolling the dick out of Gaia, which is something I do often.
I was like...wait. A worthwhile link on GAIA?! And...
*uses search function*
...It's NOT ON SRK YET?
That was a mindfuck.
People mentioned it in the Ninja Gaiden thread, and in the "Itagaki Says..." thread.
laugh
06-03-2008, 01:31 AM
I was right behind that mofo at LAX in the baggage line right after E3. That fool was ALONE. Apparently, nobody wants to travel with him. Hopefully nobody wants to make games with him either.
2008 is at it again.
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 01:34 AM
I was right behind that mofo at LAX in the baggage line right after E3. That fool was ALONE. Apparently, nobody wants to travel with him. Hopefully nobody wants to make games with him either.
2008 is at it again.
Yes, I'm sure that's exactly the case.
Though he does apparently have a history of groping employees...
But he's going to Konami. Book it.
Superking
06-03-2008, 01:39 AM
Yes, I'm sure that's exactly the case.
Though he does apparently have a history of groping employees...
But he's going to Konami. Book it.
Why the fuck would he go to Konami? And why would Konami want him?
What? For a lame Raiden spinoff done like his Ninja Gaiden Xbox series, complete with incredibly shitty camera? No thanks, I'm sure Hideo can make that in his sleep and without an incredibly shitty camera.
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 01:47 AM
Why the fuck would he go to Konami?
Because he's pals with Hideo Kojima.
And why would Konami want him?
What? For a lame Raiden spinoff done like his Ninja Gaiden Xbox series, complete with incredibly shitty camera? No thanks, I'm sure Hideo can make that in his sleep and without an incredibly shitty camera.
Contrary to what SRK says...well...he's pretty damn good. This is one of those "everyone likes it but you" things where you say you prefer Ummagumma to The Wall, and you stick to it despite the fact you're obviously wrong.
firstpressing
06-03-2008, 02:08 AM
Because he's pals with Hideo Kojima.
Contrary to what SRK says...well...he's pretty damn good. This is one of those "everyone likes it but you" things where you say you prefer Ummagumma to The Wall, and you stick to it despite the fact you're obviously wrong.
I'm more inclined to believe he's going to Microsoft Game Studios. That relationship is strong (and the fact that they are the ones publishing NG II and not Tecmo). No sources...just a hunch.
But um Tecmo's in deep shit...
He may be despicable, but you can't just leave your franchise producer hanging out to dry. Ninja Gaiden franchise will still be covered by his protege. But aside from that with DoA gone, Tecmo has what else? Fatal Frame and Monster Rancher?
Yes I know Tecmo Bowl is coming, but that game has a whole new generation to reach.
I kind of wonder if the broken promise on the bonus was sort of something he should've expected all along...since he was backed by them for the harassment suit against him.
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 02:11 AM
I'm more inclined to believe he's going to Microsoft Game Studios. That relationship is strong (and the fact that they are the ones publishing NG II and not Tecmo). No sources...just a hunch.
Very possible. Microsoft has always been friendly with Team Ninja, ever since DOA3. But I think he'll want to work with a Japanese publisher. Though MS is definitely a possibility.
Hecatom
06-03-2008, 02:16 AM
I'm more inclined to believe he's going to Microsoft Game Studios. That relationship is strong (and the fact that they are the ones publishing NG II and not Tecmo). No sources...just a hunch.
But um Tecmo's in deep shit...
He may be despicable, but you can't just leave your franchise producer hanging out to dry. Ninja Gaiden franchise will still be covered by his protege. But aside from that with DoA gone, Tecmo has what else? Fatal Frame??? (heh...)
Yes I know Tecmo Bowl is coming, but that game has a whole new generation to reach.
I kind of wonder if the broken promise on the bonus was sort of something he should've expected all along...since he was backed by them for the harassment suit against him.
totally agree, seems more logic that he is going to end working for MS with uncle billy, well egm is gonna lose his fav duchebag for a while
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 02:21 AM
totally agree, seems more logic that he is going to end working for MS with uncle billy, well egm is gonna lose his fav duchebag for a while
Nah, he'll likely do a "why I left" interview, and if he DOES join MS, they'll likely announce he's working on a badass title with ninjas and a bunch of flippin awesome stuff where you 1) are a mammal 2) fight all the time and 3) flip out and kill people and all sorts of other shit.
If he joins Konami, he'll probably do some slick title.
firstpressing
06-03-2008, 02:41 AM
Very possible. Microsoft has always been friendly with Team Ninja, ever since DOA3. But I think he'll want to work with a Japanese publisher. Though MS is definitely a possibility.
That would seem sensible except there's about 4 things going against the self-proclaimed (or Kotaku-proclaimed) rockstar...
1. He is as very un-Japanese as a Japanese company can handle, in attitude. He pretty much guard breaks "tatemae" and bitches and moans when things don't go his way (Ninja Gaiden going to the PS3)
2. He holds long grudges (Tekken) and is never reserved about mentioning his hate.
3. His outspokenness makes him come off like a egomaniac rather than opinionated (Miyamoto)
4. He's a walking train groper waiting to happen. I swear if he didn't have a family (not that it would stop him), he comes off as a dead ringer to act in a Japanese porno...and he probably wouldn't be acting.
Hell he's too much trouble for any company...but I see MGS seeing this as dollar signs since he's always news and they probably think he would be that true piece in getting that Japanese market...though I never heard a single Japanese person say anything complimentary about him or his IPs.
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 02:54 AM
1. He is as very un-Japanese as a Japanese company can handle, in attitude. He pretty much guard breaks "tatemae" and bitches and moans when things don't go his way (Ninja Gaiden going to the PS3)True, but this isn't really a bad thing for us, as gamers. If you'll remember, Itagaki refused to let DOA4 hit the market as a launch title because he wasn't satisfied with how it was. I can't see how anybody could criticize that. And even though he isn't a stereotypical Japanese worker...he never seemed like a particularly huge fan of America.
2. He holds long grudges (Tekken) and is never reserved about mentioning his hate.No biggy.
3. His outspokenness makes him come off like a egomaniac rather than opinionated (Miyamoto)So? This also doesn't really prevent him from making good games. Miyamoto's an egomaniac too, though. And at least Itagaki's made a good game in the last 10 years (rather than just having his name slapped on it).
4. He's a walking train groper waiting to happen. I swear if he didn't have a family (not that it would stop him), he comes off as a dead ringer to act in a Japanese porno...and he probably wouldn't be acting.Yes. Yes he is, yes he does and no he wouldn't be acting.
Hell he's too much trouble for any company...but I see MGS seeing this as dollar signs since he's always news and they probably think he would be that true piece in getting that Japanese market...though I never heard a single Japanese person say anything complimentary about him or his IPs.
But his games sell.
And the Japanese don't know anything about him, or his IPs. Because they don't own Xboxes.
G.O.T
06-03-2008, 03:12 AM
What can I say? Thank you......Lucifer??
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 04:26 AM
Tecmo are screwed now.
Truth.
Shadowcuz
06-03-2008, 04:34 AM
great news
gtfo itagaki
Overworld
06-03-2008, 05:25 AM
That seems a like a really dumb move for Tecmo, since Itagaki has become associated so deeply with their stronger IPs. No doubt Tecmo will continue on and make more Ninja Gaiden and DOA games, but it'd be like making a Metal Gear game without Hideo Kojima, you have to earn that faith in the project all over again. For DOA I don't think it will be too hard, Ninja Gaiden could be a different story.
I do wonder where he ends up, his first new project with a new company will be interesting to follow.
Half-Ro
06-03-2008, 05:33 AM
:rofl:
Return of Shiki
06-03-2008, 05:52 AM
It will hurt Tecmo a bit, but I think it's overstatement to say that 15-year old Johnny Donuts won't (somehow convince his mommy to) buy Strip Fighter 5 just because some Japanese dude he's never heard of is no longer directing the bouncing boobies.
Ninja Gaiden is just enough of a name in the mainstream West that the next few games ought to still do well--as long as they look really good.
DeathScythe
06-03-2008, 06:34 AM
Tecmo is far from screwed. It's not THAT hard to make a shitty game like DoA and market it to casual players.
Ki Shima
06-03-2008, 06:37 AM
I cant wait to see the results of this :rofl:
Volde
06-03-2008, 06:57 AM
It will hurt Tecmo a bit, but I think it's overstatement to say that 15-year old Johnny Donuts won't (somehow convince his mommy to) buy Strip Fighter 5 just because some Japanese dude he's never heard of is no longer directing the bouncing boobies.
You assume that only little kids play DoA?
Uthred
06-03-2008, 07:35 AM
You assume that only little kids play DoA?
Whats funnier is that he assumes the aforementioned kids havent heard of Itagaki, a practical impossibility as his name is always seen in close proximity to any news regarding new titles he's working on.
valaris
06-03-2008, 07:38 AM
Stupid question but does Itagaki or Tecmo own the IP for DOA and Ninja Gaiden?
coffeerox
06-03-2008, 07:42 AM
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168056
On the eve of his Ninja Gaiden II release, he resigned from Tecmo and is suing them claiming that the President has ruined his reputation with his peers, making it an uncomfortable working situation and that he was not paid his dues. He was supposed to be paid a completion bonus upon completing Ninja Gaiden II and this was his last straw. He's suing for 148 million yen.
So what does that mean for us? We aren't going to see any more Itagaki led NG projects or any DOA projects for that matter. The future of those games look bleak but hopefully someone competent can take over the reins and attempt to make a better game. Itagaki's next game idea is to make a violent action game, something like NG2. I was thinking what if this guy went over to Konami to do Castlevania? The head Castlevania guy keeps failing on 3d Castlevania titles so maybe Itagaki can go over there and do a copycat DMC game with Castlevania like theme. Now that he is on the streets so to speak (in terms of having to go out there to look for a new job) I wonder how industry recruiters are going to react to a guy that bashes other game producers and their games and who probably comes with a huge asking price.
:rofl: yeah the prez ruined his reputation. suuureee. its not because he's an idiot/sleeve/perv..yeah its the presidents fault.
Lantis
06-03-2008, 07:45 AM
Maybe he should spend his money on some good plastic surgery so that his face won't look like pizza anymore. :wasted:
Oh yeah, and he should start playing more Tekken. :rofl:
m121akuma
06-03-2008, 07:50 AM
Maybe he should spend his money on some good plastic surgery so that his face won't look like pizza anymore. :wasted:
Oh yeah, and he should start playing more Tekken. :rofl:
I would laugh my ass off if he went to Namco and joined the Tekken team.
coffeerox
06-03-2008, 07:51 AM
:rofl: yeah the prez ruined his reputation. suuureee. its not because he's an idiot/sleeve/perv..yeah its the presidents fault.
well its not so much that he ruined his rep, he ruined his own rep in my opinion, but its that he brought personal matters into business. It's like dating a coworker. Things go bad, and you both still have to go to the same workplace and you end up feeling awkward, sometimes even bad depending on the severity of the situation. It's quite a valid reason to sue somebody for.
King9999
06-03-2008, 07:52 AM
I'd say that Itagaki was treated unfairly and he has every right to sue. I think he's an arrogant bastard, but he makes good games. Tecmo is basically pissing away talent by not paying him the bonus as promised.
well its not so much that he ruined his rep, he ruined his own rep in my opinion, but its that he brought personal matters into business. It's like dating a coworker. Things go bad, and you both still have to go to the same workplace and you end up feeling awkward, sometimes even bad depending on the severity of the situation. It's quite a valid reason to sue somebody for.
lol do we need to bring up the fact that he did try to mack it to a co-worker?
lantis: oh man...he should make fighting games that arent so button mash friendly.
Return of Shiki
06-03-2008, 07:54 AM
Whats funnier is that he assumes the aforementioned kids havent heard of Itagaki, a practical impossibility as his name is always seen in close proximity to any news regarding new titles he's working on.
What's hilarious is your ignorance.
I sold games to the casual mainstream sheep daily for years. Trust me, the AVERAGE gamer doesn't know shit about developers or VG directors.
They don't know who the fuck Will Wright, Shigeru Miyamoto, or Itagaki are. Even if you told them, they wouldn't care.
They would never read any sort of gaming news--if they even read, PERIOD.
They get Game Informer or EGM to stare at the pretty pictures and skim the numbers/grades of the reviews.
coffeerox
06-03-2008, 07:54 AM
lol do we need to bring up the fact that he did try to mack it to a co-worker?
I thought that case was dismissed wasnt it?
I thought that case was dismissed wasnt it?
dunno, didnt hear a follow up to the story after it was posted, but im using that as example of the fact the prez didnt ruin his reputation he did it himself.
found this on wiki:
Sexual harassment scandal
On November 7, 2006, various gaming sites reported a female former Tecmo employee filing a sexual harassment suit against Itagaki.[26][27][28] She claimed Itagaki has made several unwanted sexual advances on her ever since September 2003. While Itagaki has admitted to kissing her, he said whatever has gone between them was consensual. This stance is backed up by Tecmo which claimed its one month investigation has revealed the accusations were solely the venting of the female employee's frustrations over her personal affairs.[29][30][31] Tecmo has also demoted Itagaki and the accuser for their mingling of "personal affairs with their corporate responsibilities". Meanwhile, the court has found Itagaki innocent of the charges.[32]
Wellman
06-03-2008, 07:57 AM
Tecmo should own everything, Itagaki just works on it, sort of like how the main guy behind Final Fantasy left to start his own company.
Itagaki's departure won't mean the end of Tecmo, although the major franchises of DoA (are they even planning on making anymore?) and Ninja Gaiden will suffer only if they put an idiot or a paper pusher who just copies the previous games and doesn't try (or is unable to successfully) to improve elements in the next installments.
MechZZ
06-03-2008, 08:00 AM
Who was that guy that made the picture comparing Itagaki to a potato? it was fucking hilarious
What's hilarious is your ignorance.
I sold games to the casual mainstream sheep daily for years. Trust me, the AVERAGE gamer doesn't know shit about developers or VG directors.
They don't know who the fuck Will Wright, Shigeru Miyamoto, or Itagaki are. Even if you told them, they wouldn't care.
They would never read any sort of gaming news--if they even read, PERIOD.
They get Game Informer or EGM to stare at the pretty pictures and skim the numbers/grades of the reviews.
while youre totally right your condescending attitude towards people who arent nerdy enough to care about that shit is pathetic
valaris
06-03-2008, 08:01 AM
Who was that guy that made the picture comparing Itagaki to a potato? it was fucking hilarious
You mean an oatmeal cookie?
coffeerox
06-03-2008, 08:03 AM
You mean an oatmeal cookie?
I found it roflmao
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff213/Gunzah/Itagaki.jpg
Nairdas
06-03-2008, 08:05 AM
Longs as no one fucks up my DOA I don't care. I've never played any of his games except the doa series so he's not that big of a producer to me.
And he really does need to fix his face.
looks like pizza face from all that.
ShinkuuR
06-03-2008, 08:31 AM
Say what you want about the man and his arrogance, he is a great developer and it sucks that Tecmo didn't man up and keep their end of the bargain about the bonus. As far as the personal issues, well...
Anyway, maybe he'll go to Capcom or something lol. The DMC team could always use some new ideas and he did say he respected what SF4 is trying to do...
Say what you want about the man and his arrogance, he is a great developer and it sucks that Tecmo didn't man up and keep their end of the bargain about the bonus. As far as the personal issues, well...
Anyway, maybe he'll go to Capcom or something lol. The DMC team could always use some new ideas and he did say he respected what SF4 is trying to do...
another developer will pick him up quick...no doubt.
DragonSama
06-03-2008, 08:38 AM
I think it would be hillarious if Tecmo and Namco teamed up and made Tekken Vs DOA the Fuck you itagaki edtion.
I think it would be hillarious if Tecmo and Namco teamed up and made Tekken Vs DOA the Fuck you itagaki edtion.
lol except tecmo owns those characters lol. but i will die if he joins namco.
BunnyHead
06-03-2008, 08:46 AM
I found it roflmao
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff213/Gunzah/Itagaki.jpg
:rofl::rofl:
they also had one like that for K-dash and Halle Berry
anyways I havent been on Tecmo that much
I only remember Itagaki from watching "Icons" on G4 and he came off as really arrogant
but as someone said he is indeed a great developer so I have to give him alot of respect.
I wonder what's next for him, btw is there another source about the sexual harrasment besides Wiki??
YellowS4
06-03-2008, 09:08 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SE8gTI8cYUw
King9999
06-03-2008, 09:08 AM
:rofl::rofl:
they also had one like that for K-dash and Halle Berry
anyways I havent been on Tecmo that much
I only remember Itagaki from watching "Icons" on G4 and he came off as really arrogant
but as someone said he is indeed a great developer so I have to give him alot of respect.
I wonder what's next for him, btw is there another source about the sexual harrasment besides Wiki??
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6162301.html
Volde
06-03-2008, 09:22 AM
I sold games to the casual mainstream sheep daily for years. Trust me, the AVERAGE gamer doesn't know shit about developers or VG directors.
Not to say that i don`t agree with you(well not counting that only kids play DoA) but how by selling games you found out what average gamer knows and doesn`t know? When they were buying games you started asking them about developers and such? Here you just give money, take the game and thats it.
Septimus Prime
06-03-2008, 09:29 AM
Thank you for not posting a Sucktaku link. 1up sucks, but at least it's far more credible.
Anyway, as much as I don't particularly like Itagaki, I'm with him on this one. Yasuda should have paid him.
Thank you for not posting a Sucktaku link. 1up sucks, but at least it's far more credible.
Anyway, as much as I don't particularly like Itagaki, I'm with him on this one. Yasuda should have paid him.
ive never heard of suckatu..why do they suck?
DeathScythe
06-03-2008, 09:34 AM
Not to say that i don`t agree with you(well not counting that only kids play DoA) but how by selling games you found out what average gamer knows and doesn`t know? When they were buying games you started asking them about developers and such? Here you just give money, take the game and thats it.
I've had Gamestop employees try and talk games with me before. Some of them tried and failed, some of them succeeded.
El Maniatico
06-03-2008, 09:34 AM
ive never heard of suckatu..why do they suck?
I think he mean Kotaku.com, and I think hes mad that when they reviewed MGS4 that they didnt stick solid snake's cock and balls in their mouths and get it a SSS rating... not that theres anything wrong with that! Who knows, I think theyre always kinda biased against ps3 but...
on topic, fuck man, shit. shit is real bad. no more doa volleyball? this is fucking depressing mang. :crybaby:
Azrael
06-03-2008, 09:35 AM
Knowing first-hand how shady Japanese company presidents can be, I'm inclined to agree with Itagaki on this one.
DeathScythe
06-03-2008, 09:36 AM
ive never heard of suckatu..why do they suck?
Because it's Kotaku and they're usually wrong.
valaris
06-03-2008, 09:36 AM
I think he mean Kotaku.com, and I think hes mad that when they reviewed MGS4 that they didnt stick solid snake's cock and balls in their mouths and get it a SSS rating... not that theres anything wrong with that! Who knows, I think theyre always kinda biased against ps3 but...
on topic, fuck man, shit. shit is real bad. no more doa volleyball? this is fucking depressing mang. :crybaby:
It's not because of MGS4. Sep's always hated on Kotaku along with a lot of us. Mostly due to how unreliable they are. They'll post any rumor they hear as fact.
Volde
06-03-2008, 09:40 AM
Interesting, never had it here.
The Furious One
06-03-2008, 09:42 AM
what no more Jann Lee!!!
*Emplodes*
altergenesis
06-03-2008, 09:56 AM
:rofl:
What? This guy is amazing.
Azrael
06-03-2008, 09:58 AM
I just browsed the Kotaku front page for the first time, and I could sense a pretty heavy bias. On the first page. That's just unprofessional.
Septimus Prime
06-03-2008, 09:59 AM
Professionalism has never been part of Kotaku's standard.
firstpressing
06-03-2008, 10:01 AM
Professionalism has never been part of Kotaku's standard.
Reason why video game blogs will never be taken seriously (not that really any publication can......)
Itagaki should move on to his true calling... JAV.
Septimus Prime
06-03-2008, 10:03 AM
Itagaki would make a dope-ass 3D Castlevania.
ST Vega
06-03-2008, 10:05 AM
Reason why video game blogs will never be taken seriously (not that really any publication can......)
Itagaki should move on to his true calling... JAV.
If by that, you mean hentai/manga. Yeah, sure.
But for real, I agree with the guy. He may be cocky as hell about his own games, but if this is the real situation, I feel like he's 100% in the right.
Septimus Prime
06-03-2008, 10:06 AM
Itagaki would make a dope-ass GTA game.
altergenesis
06-03-2008, 10:06 AM
I see it now. Tecmo makes a new DOA and Itagaki sits down and comments about it.
Itagaki would make a dope-ass GTA game.
lol all the hookers would have the most realistic bouncy titty physics.
ST Vega
06-03-2008, 10:11 AM
And hey, since it's GTA, it's all good.
The Epidemic
06-03-2008, 10:13 AM
Itagaki would make a dope-ass GTA game.
word...imagine if Neko had some dope ass hayabusa combos:smokin:
rukawa_kaede
06-03-2008, 10:23 AM
I like the idea itagaki going with konami
new castlevania director itagaki replacing igarashi,sweet
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 10:27 AM
Tecmo is far from screwed. It's not THAT hard to make a shitty game like DoA and market it to casual players.
How can somebody with such a great avatar be so fucking stupid?
I see it now. Tecmo makes a new DOA and Itagaki sits down and comments about it. Yeah, and there'll undoubtedly be a stupidly long thread on it on SRK.
danomighty
06-03-2008, 10:28 AM
damn tecmo dropped the fucking ball,beside DOA and NG what do they have?
poor Oatmeal face! :crybaby:
Itagaki would make a dope-ass 3D Castlevania.
this is actually a great idea so long as castlevania isnt one of those games he hates for some stupid arbitrary reason
Septimus Prime
06-03-2008, 10:31 AM
They have Rygar, which is their best IP.
Also, I think Hayashi, who used to be Itagaki's subordinate, would make a more than competent replacement. I mean, the guy designed the AI in NG Black and then took over as the executive producer of NG Sigma by himself, so I'm sure he can do well to hold up the series without his mentor.
DeathScythe
06-03-2008, 10:37 AM
How can somebody with such a great avatar be so fucking stupid?
How can someone like you, that is so good at the reach around with his boyfriends, be reaching so far to get at everyone in this thread? You act like DOA has some sort of fucking complex gaming formula going for it. It doesn't. And Itagaki is easily replaceable. When it comes to money, you're easily expendable.
altergenesis
06-03-2008, 10:40 AM
Yeah, it's not like Itagaki was the only person in Team Ninja. There are obviously other people and if Tecmo wants to make another DOA then someone in that department can step up and do it. You don't need one person to create a new game. The staff is still there.
Septimus Prime
06-03-2008, 10:43 AM
I think Hayashi, who used to be Itagaki's subordinate, would make a more than competent replacement. I mean, the guy designed the AI in NG Black and then took over as the executive producer of NG Sigma by himself, so I'm sure he can do well to hold up the series without his mentor.
Superking
06-03-2008, 10:49 AM
Because it's Kotaku and they're usually wrong.
Apollo Creed here knows his stuff, listen to him here.
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 10:56 AM
How can someone like you, that is so good at the reach around with his boyfriends, be reaching so far to get at everyone in this thread? You act like DOA has some sort of fucking complex gaming formula going for it. It doesn't. And Itagaki is easily replaceable. When it comes to money, you're easily expendable.
Great work.
Me: "well, that was stupid..."
DS: "YOU GAY!"
Yeah, yeah, DOA is my favorite game. That's exactly what I said. I didn't just say that it's moronic to say "lolol, just spam counters cuz the game doesn't even have a throw."
Saotome Kaneda
06-03-2008, 11:23 AM
why is this thread in here when it would work so better in GD(and by moving it there I can play thread tennis with Sep)
Septimus Prime
06-03-2008, 11:25 AM
Thread merge time!
Saotome Kaneda
06-03-2008, 11:28 AM
Thread merge time!
:tup:
Night
06-03-2008, 11:55 AM
Blizzard didn't really suffer when Bill Roper who was one of the key guys behind SC/BW, Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3 left. WoW's success has floated them well enough and SC2 without Bill Roper and a lot of the team that was behind did the previous RTS games will still probably do really well too. If Tecmo's still got the talent, they don't need Itagaki.
Hellgate London, Roper's pet project after leaving Blizzard hmmmm... dunno how successful it is compared to what he did in Blizzard....
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 04:39 PM
Blizzard didn't really suffer when Bill Roper who was one of the key guys behind SC/BW, Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3 left. WoW's success has floated them well enough and SC2 without Bill Roper and a lot of the team that was behind did the previous RTS games will still probably do really well too. If Tecmo's still got the talent, they don't need Itagaki.
Hellgate London, Roper's pet project after leaving Blizzard hmmmm... dunno how successful it is compared to what he did in Blizzard....
True, but Roper isn't so publicly tied to the series. Itagaki is tied to DOA in the same way Kojima is tied to MGS.
GreyFoxx
06-03-2008, 05:23 PM
Wow...didn't see this coming.
ViciousSLASH
06-03-2008, 05:39 PM
I actually really liked DOA2 on PS2. That game was hella fun.
*GASP*
That was the only game I had for awhile along with Madden 2004 or whatever year that was.
I should have gotten SSX with it, it took me forever to realize that game was amazing.
Oh well, Itagaki making a 3D castlevania would be interesting.
I kinda feel bad because he has such bad acne and people just kill him on it. He need to get on that proactive and preserve his sexy.
I actually really liked DOA2 on PS2. That game was hella fun.
*GASP*
That was the only game I had for awhile along with Madden 2004 or whatever year that was.
I should have gotten SSX with it, it took me forever to realize that game was amazing.
Oh well, Itagaki making a 3D castlevania would be interesting.
I kinda feel bad because he has such bad acne and people just kill him on it. He need to get on that proactive and preserve his sexy.
they must not ship proactive to japan. he should promise to be pdiddy's no bitchassness ambassador of japan.
Rico!
06-03-2008, 06:59 PM
PS3 game Ninja Gaiden: Sigma? I'm told you won't even sign copies of the game...?
Itagaki: It was no good.
Why's that? I thought it was pretty good.
Itagaki: All you need to do is play Ninja Gaiden II and then try and play Sigma afterwards and you'll see why.
Despite the fact that it's on a 'next-generation' console there's no evolution whatsoever. That was made not by me, but one of my sub-ordinates who basically tried to copy the success of Ninja Gaiden.
Does that mean we'll never see NGII on PS3?
Itagaki: No because it's a 360 exclusive.
Uhm...damn. I loved Sigma...
Superking
06-03-2008, 07:00 PM
lol that's what he thinks.
Port happy Yasuda the Tecmo pres will have NGII ported to PS3 asap as Ninja Gaiden II Omega. :rofl:
ReXXXSoprano
06-03-2008, 07:01 PM
Damn, never would have expected this shit ever.
Lets break it down like this.
Itagaki is one of the few people in the industry that cooks constant gaming crack everytime the shine is on him. Even I'll admit he has an swagger about him, but he has the right cause dude is beastly when it comes to game creation. He's kinda like the Kanye of the gaming world.
It's fucked up it ended like this. But without his input a host of options for the IP's he was majorly involved with to see major changes, good or bad. It will just be a matter of time until we see the results of this decision by Itagaki.
Only thing I do know for sure is that somebody will get him and he'll still cook up fire ass work for some company.
Rico!
06-03-2008, 07:05 PM
lol that's what he thinks.
Port happy Yasuda the Tecmo pres will have NGII ported to PS3 asap as Ninja Gaiden II Omega. :rofl:
excellent :devil:
DavDz
06-03-2008, 07:21 PM
It's fucked up it ended like this. But without his input a host of options for the IP's he was majorly involved with to see major changes, good or bad. It will just be a matter of time until we see the results of this decision by Itagaki.
Ninja Gaiden was doing pretty well even before Itagaki resumed the series with the 3D games. He only directed the 3D Ninja Gaiden games
Lantis
06-03-2008, 08:21 PM
Ninja Gaiden was doing pretty well even before Itagaki resumed the series with the 3D games. He only directed the 3D Ninja Gaiden games
YAY! More uber-hard 2D games, but with HELLA COOL cinematics, fo' realz!
Or maybe bring back the vintage arcade beat-em-up with Hayabusa vs. 100010 Jason Voorhees clones.
DIZAM!
AdverseSolutions
06-03-2008, 08:33 PM
Itagaki is one of the few people in the industry that cooks constant gaming crack everytime the shine is on him. Even I'll admit he has an swagger about him, but he has the right cause dude is beastly when it comes to game creation. He's kinda like the Kanye of the gaming world.
this
RoninChaos
06-03-2008, 10:01 PM
Yeah, the guy has a shit attitude, but dude makes some dope games. Ninja Gaiden on the xbox was a fucking incredible piece of work for an action game. I'd LOVE to see what this guy can do with a 3-D Castlevania. He definitely knows what he's doing.
And Temco should pay him.
AlphaDragoon02
06-03-2008, 10:04 PM
Itagaki's an asshole (and the NG games are the only good thing he's ever made) but Yasuda owes him what he promised.
Onslaught2000
06-03-2008, 10:36 PM
They have Rygar, which is their best IP.
You serious?
There are only two Rygar games that I know of, the original one, and then the one that was done on the PS2. If the Wii version is anything like the PS2 version, then its already a pile of trash.
Though I must admit, it did have pretty graphics.
lamewadd
06-03-2008, 11:22 PM
Itagaki's an asshole (and the NG games are the only good thing he's ever made) but Yasuda owes him what he promised.
As Riley on Boondocks would say...
"YOU GONNA PAY WHAT YOU OWE!"
But yeah, good to see people acknowledging NG's awesomeness, rather than just being contrary douches because they hate Itagaki for some reason nobody's willing to elaborate (assuming there is a reason).
rush down
06-03-2008, 11:57 PM
He's a douche. I hope he loses the case and ends up managing a hostess club or the rest of his life.
All of his games in the last 15 years have sucked. I didn't even like ninja gaiden on the xbox. The old NES games are better.
mr. newbie
06-04-2008, 12:01 AM
why does everyone here hate him so much? if you made an action game (stale genre at times) that good you'd be feeling yourself too. and cocky people aren't necessarily terrible human beings. ninja gaiden and dmc are basically the coca cola's (popularity and acceptance) of the action genre.
about sigma- if i made alpha 2 for the arcade and it got ported to the snes without my approval i'd be pissed too.
lamewadd
06-04-2008, 12:17 AM
He's a douche. I hope he loses the case and ends up managing a hostess club or the rest of his life.
All of his games in the last 15 years have sucked. I didn't even like ninja gaiden on the xbox. The old NES games are better.
Yeah, that's a totally non-stupid line of thinking.
OH MAN I HOPE YOU GO BROKE AND END UP WORKING A DEMEANING JOB FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE CUZ I'M NOT A FAN OF YOUR VIDEO GAMES EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE OUTSIDE THIS FORUM IS.
It's idiotic how much hate SRK has for him. I mean hell, people threw a hissy fit when I posted a story about some mother making the McDonalds near her house fire a level 3 sex offender who molests children...but the way they talk about Itagaki...you'd think he killed their mother, raped their sister and then stole their cheeseburger.
rush down
06-04-2008, 12:35 AM
Yeah, that's a totally non-stupid line of thinking.
OH MAN I HOPE YOU GO BROKE AND END UP WORKING A DEMEANING JOB FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE CUZ I'M NOT A FAN OF YOUR VIDEO GAMES EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE OUTSIDE THIS FORUM IS.
It's idiotic how much hate SRK has for him. I mean hell, people threw a hissy fit when I posted a story about some mother making the McDonalds near her house fire a level 3 sex offender who molests children...but the way they talk about Itagaki...you'd think he killed their mother, raped their sister and then stole their cheeseburger.
He also...
Makes lame hentai-like games which makes gamers look like tools.
I think he ruined NG. For me he did at least. It was my favorite series on the NES and I hated the remakes. (Somehow I got myself to play through the first remake and I hated it the whole way).
Thinks he can molest a girl at his office because he's the big boss.
Rips on American games/gamers and the American gaming market.
Dresses like a total douche bag and wears sun glasses in-doors and at night. I can't respect anyone who chooses to dress like that.
Most importantly, his games are not good but he talks huge shit like hes someone worth giving a fuck about.
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Not to mention impersonating oatmeal cookies.
Hisham
06-04-2008, 12:46 AM
lol that's what he thinks.
Port happy Yasuda the Tecmo pres will have NGII ported to PS3 asap as Ninja Gaiden II Omega. :rofl:
It would be nice, but MS published NGII, which means it is exclusive to the 360.
Same way games like Perfect Dark (orginal) or any Rare game that was published by Nintendo can't be released anywhere else. They can make new games for whatever system they want, but NGII is locked down by MS since they are the publisher of that game.
rush down
06-04-2008, 12:50 AM
Not to mention impersonating oatmeal cookies.
Holy shit that was funny. And yes... dude looks like Freddy Kruger (SP?)
lamewadd
06-04-2008, 12:51 AM
He also...
Makes lame hentai-like games which makes gamers look like tools.Yeah, yeah, when people want to say gamers are tools, they jump right to DOA. Not WOW or Final Fantasy.
I think he ruined NG. For me he did at least. It was my favorite series on the NES and I hated the remakes. (Somehow I got myself to play through the first remake and I hated it the whole way).You're the only one who thinks that. Well, here on SRK, people like to talk a lot of shit. But yeah. You're wrong. NG rocked.
Thinks he can molest a girl at his office because he's the big boss.A girl? And apparently he can. My Lord...Kobe rapes some trailer trash and everyone rushes to his defense. Itagaki maybe slaps some 20 year old's ass and he's suddenly a child molester. Though if you actually thought that, you'd probably say "pics or gtfo" if you actually thought that.
Rips on American games/gamers and the American gaming market.So does Shigeru Miyamoto. But at least Itagaki works on American consoles, rather than making bitching about an American developer ruining the Donkey Kong series. Because Donkey Kong Country was sooooo terrible.
Most importantly, his games are not good but he talks huge shit like hes someone worth giving a fuck about.Yes they are and why shouldn't he?
This is some seriously superficial shit you're bitching 'bout!
mr. newbie
06-04-2008, 12:55 AM
He also...
Makes lame hentai-like games which makes gamers look like tools.
1.because we all want soooooooo bad to be cool and have girls accept our hobby right? and it's not like like gamers are, ya know, sometimes socially retarded.
I think he ruined NG. For me he did at least. It was my favorite series on the NES and I hated the remakes. (Somehow I got myself to play through the first remake and I hated it the whole way).
you didn't explain what you would've liked to be different.
Thinks he can molest a girl at his office because he's the big boss.
girls NEVER exaggerate or make things up right? and that wasn't ya, know, dismissed right?
Rips on American games/gamers and the American gaming market.
i don't recall this. though it wouldn't surprise me much.
Dresses like a total douche bag and wears sun glasses in-doors and at night. I can't respect anyone who chooses to dress like that.
if you think thats weird you have a lot to learn about japanese fashion.
Most importantly, his games are not good but he talks huge shit like hes someone worth giving a fuck about.
a couple million people thought some of his games were worth $50.
i think the hate is undeserved sometimes.
Geddoe
06-04-2008, 01:04 AM
Guess we can expect to see Hayate going out like Chef(South Park) in the next DoA, since I seem to remember Itagaki saying that Hayate was his favorite character(apparently Itagaki thinks he looks like Hayate as well, delusions ftw).
So much Itagaki hate. Regardless of what you think, his games sell. He might have be arrogant and have an attitude but what does that have to do with the games the he develops? Do you buy game because you like the appearance and attitude of the developer or because it's a good quality game?
Superking
06-04-2008, 02:21 AM
It would be nice, but MS published NGII, which means it is exclusive to the 360.
Yes, and Microsoft published Mass Effect which means it is exclusive to 360, oh wait, what? :rofl:
Microsoft doesn't own Ninja Gaiden IP or anything related to it, that shit still belongs to Tecmo regardless.
And Tecmo is free to do whatever the fuck they want with the game, even porting the game down to Wii complete with waggle.
serious question:
Does anyone know why he has a pizza face? :confused:
he looks like a burn victim, no joke.
CarpeNoctumXIII
06-04-2008, 04:36 AM
serious question:
Does anyone know why he has a pizza face? :confused:
he looks like a burn victim, no joke.
Probably some serious acne when he was younger? Either way, I think people hate on him too much. He may be a douche, but he's a douche that can put his money where his mouth is. He knows how to make great games, so it's really Tecmo's loss for just not paying the damn guy.
Bounce
06-04-2008, 05:15 AM
Itagaki leaves wow....but some things to consider.
Tecmo= decent small developer, considering that they have about main hits and many small games that turn profits.
Itagaki= decent developer (by objective standards) who does what he knows how to do well.
Conclusion - Both parties will be fine in the end. DOA is not a great fighter but it sells, so we will see a DOA 5 sometime in the future, especially if the company needs a hit. As for NG, I'm not a fan of the remakes, but the property is hot, the character is Iconic, and Tecmo can ride out NG2 for a couple of years.
Ita design style has been flashy, simplistic, and mainstream. Decent enough for consumers, but never a guy I would put on the whose who of game development. Him leaving gives the usual list of suspects, Capcom, Sega, Microsoft, Konami but the only place I could see him needed is at Microsoft just to make some news for them in Japan.
I think the hate for him stems from designing games subpar in depth and then going on rants to claim that Tekken is the worst fighting game ever.
And finally, who lost out more: To soon to tell, depends on what the people at Team Ninja do. If they stay- Ita, if they go- Tecmo. Remember the exodus from Sega, that was a brain drain.
the_dannobot
06-04-2008, 07:23 AM
wow...
whether or not you like the dude, or whether or not you like his games, they stiffed him out of $1.5 mil
thats some buuuuullshit, i hope he gets dat money
TheDarkPhoenix
06-04-2008, 07:54 AM
NG2 is awesome btw.... Def a good game.
So was one.
DOA4 is heck fun as well
BunnyHead
06-04-2008, 08:02 AM
Probably some serious acne when he was younger? Either way, I think people hate on him too much. He may be a douche, but he's a douche that can put his money where his mouth is. He knows how to make great games, so it's really Tecmo's loss for just not paying the damn guy.
I usually don't condone cocky attitudes
....but I would have to agree with this.
He's too good, he can walk the walk and talk the talk.
Wellman
06-04-2008, 08:24 AM
Yes, and Microsoft published Mass Effect which means it is exclusive to 360, oh wait, what? :rofl:
Microsoft doesn't own Ninja Gaiden IP or anything related to it, that shit still belongs to Tecmo regardless.
And Tecmo is free to do whatever the fuck they want with the game, even porting the game down to Wii complete with waggle.
Actually I think that depends on how deeply MS was involved with the development of NG2. Now I am no expert or nothing but f they are just publishing the game, then they at best have it exclusive for maybe a couple of months to a year. If they bankrolled or provided direct help in the games development, then a port of NG2 to any other system is probably out of the question.
Although a remake, spin-off, or whatever is still possible.
Septimus Prime
06-04-2008, 09:20 AM
It would be nice, but MS published NGII, which means it is exclusive to the 360.
Same way games like Perfect Dark (orginal) or any Rare game that was published by Nintendo can't be released anywhere else. They can make new games for whatever system they want, but NGII is locked down by MS since they are the publisher of that game.
That's not how it works.
The IP belongs to Tecmo, who can do with it whatever it wants, and it seems like Yasuda being fond of porting things is part of what Itagaki was fed up with. Now, without Itagaki there to oppose him, Yasuda is free to do with his company's IP whatever he wants.
Actually I think that depends on how deeply MS was involved with the development of NG2. Now I am no expert or nothing but f they are just publishing the game, then they at best have it exclusive for maybe a couple of months to a year. If they bankrolled or provided direct help in the games development, then a port of NG2 to any other system is probably out of the question.
Although a remake, spin-off, or whatever is still possible.
Publishing does not grant exclusivity.
TTZ231
06-04-2008, 09:35 AM
You want DOA5 on PS3.
Septimus Prime
06-04-2008, 09:40 AM
Not really. I want NG2 because I would actually play it. I don't play DOA games.
DeathScythe
06-04-2008, 09:41 AM
DOA5 would cause a PS3 to RROD out of nowhere.
Uthred
06-24-2008, 09:17 AM
What's hilarious is your ignorance.
I sold games to the casual mainstream sheep daily for years. Trust me, the AVERAGE gamer doesn't know shit about developers or VG directors.
They don't know who the fuck Will Wright, Shigeru Miyamoto, or Itagaki are. Even if you told them, they wouldn't care.
They would never read any sort of gaming news--if they even read, PERIOD.
They get Game Informer or EGM to stare at the pretty pictures and skim the numbers/grades of the reviews.
I hate to break this to you champ, but your experiences are not equal to objective fact. They are what we adults call "anecdotal evidence". If you want to insist that the average gamer doesnt read any of the major online gaming sites (e.g. IGN or Gamespot) where Itagaki's name nearly always appears in tandem with any mention of Ninja Gaiden/DOA/etc. while also insisting that EGM never mentions his name then go right ahead. I know the fact that the average gamer knows things like this may tarnish your precious elitism, and god forbid that happen eh? So shine on you ignorant elitist diamond, shine on.
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