Comic stuff you thought sucked/were cool at the time that you now think are cool/suck

[m121akuma]

Hindsight is a tricky thing, and that is no more true than in the comic industry. Some things may look cool to the eyes of a twelve year old, but as those eyes age, they can see how awful the idea really was. Other times, a concept may seem shitty at the time, but when looked back upon, it actually was pretty interesting. What comic concepts fall into either category for you?

Cool before/sucks now:
Onslaught: Yeah, I'll say it. As a kid, I thought Onslaught looked kinda cool. He was like a giant Magneto with Professor X's powers and was pwning everybody! How could that go wrong! Looking back on it, I now see Onslaught pushed comics back 5 years.

Carnage: Again, HE LOOKED SO COOL! And he was a CRAZIER version of Venom! And his game had a RED CARTRIDGE! But really, Carnage wasn't much of an interesting character. He only really worked as a foil to Venom at best, and that was debatable. I'm glad Sentry launched him into space.

Azrael-Batman: Ninjas are cool. Technology is cool. Batman is cool. A Batman with a high-tech suit and crazy ninja skills should be awesome. It wasn't.

Thought sucked before but like now:

Iron Spidey: Yeah, that's right. Iron-Spidey was cool. Anybody who was here two years ago knows I was a huge hater at the time it was announced, but once Civil War was over and done, and the costume put away for good, I realized that it was actually rather cool looking. I'm glad it was reused for the Scarlet Spiders, and I hope Pete gets to put it on again someday. Seeing it in this week's Amazing just reminded me how awesome it was.

[maxx]

cool as a kid: foil covers/3d glasses insert ads.

not as cool as an adult.

lol.

[Apathy-Inc]

Cool then/not now:
-Mike Turner 's art.
-Spawn/Todd McFarlane
-Bad girls
-Awesome Comics

Not then/Now:
-Ultimate Spider-Man
-Witchblade

To be continued...

[kane_warhead]

Cool then/not now:

Joe Madrureira's art

[m121akuma]

Joe Madrureira's art

Which category does that fall into?

[Apathy-Inc]

I always liked Madruriera but never loved it until after I got out of art school and realized just how ahead of his time he was.

[box]

Cool back then/not now

#1 issues. I almost always purchased #1 issues of crappy comics. Darkhawk #1. Deathlok #1. Sleepwalker #1. Secret Defenders #1. Cage #1. It was cool back then to brag to all your friends... but now not so much. There was just a slew of new titles coming out and you had to get the first issue of each and every crappy book.

[chopperbyrne]

Hobgoblin.

When I was young I used to love Hobgoblin just because he looked cooler.

Now it's all about Norman.

[scum gale 88]

not then/not now
Michael Turners art. fuck him. good job on making everyone you draw look identical, fascist.

*edit-because apathy-inc is having a hissy fit over my opinion in a thread based around opinions*

disliked then/like now:
ultimate *whatever*
most marvel books, I had a hard time jumping in due to the usually extensive continuity.

liked then/dislike now:
random 90s comics
venom, I never really "got" the character. I always thought the green goblin was cooler because he had a more personal impact on spider-man.

[Apathy-Inc]

not then/not now
Michael Turners art. fuck him. good job on making everyone you draw look identical, fascist.

Can there actually be a thread where people don't personally bash an artist because they don't like their style?

Turner's as guilty of that as is 90% of the industry.

Grow the fuck up.

[archetype]

I thought namor was trash but he's one of my favorite characters.

check out the pic

http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/thumb/d/dd/Namor_008.jpg/300px-Namor_008.jpg

[Apathy-Inc]

not then/not now
Michael Turners art. fuck him. good job on making everyone you draw look identical, fascist.

*edit-because apathy-inc is having a hissy fit over my opinion in a thread based around opinions*


Wow.:rolleyes:

The thread is for opinions on art and such, not the artists themselves.
Making personal attacks against someone you likely don't know and/or have never met isn't keeping in good taste or on topic.

If you had kept it about his artwork I wouldn't have a problem.

It is possible to say you don't like an artist's work without personally insulting them.

[scum gale 88]

ok, Ill rephrase it so I dont sound like such an uncouth barbarian.

I dislike his artwork, both his male and female characters all have very similar/identical features with the exception of hairstyle swapping and power girls big titties. with that in mind I dont think he really deserves the fame he has gained. there is so little variety in his figures that it becomes boring and annoying to even look at (for me at least)
at least his identical characters look more consistent than what rob liefeld churns out.

[Sano]

Yeah there's no reason to curse out artists and/or writers, please don't.

Carry on...

[Windlord0]

Mine is kinda big. Superman.

I used to think superman was a damn stupid character. He is invincible, even when they kill him he just comes back. How could he possibly be an interesting hero if he is so invincible.

Well now I know how ignorant I really was. I have picked up a lot more comics (while before I really hadn't read any superman) and now I understand better now what makes him appealing. I really enjoy superman comics now (all star has been really great, and I love the anything that uses KC superman), and I recently heard someone giving the same argument that I used to use against superman. Hopefully I can get them to read some, and learn what I learned.

[darksoul173]

Mine is kinda big. Superman.

I used to think superman was a damn stupid character. He is invincible, even when they kill him he just comes back. How could he possibly be an interesting hero if he is so invincible.

Well now I know how ignorant I really was. I have picked up a lot more comics (while before I really hadn't read any superman) and now I understand better now what makes him appealing. I really enjoy superman comics now (all star has been really great, and I love the anything that uses KC superman), and I recently heard someone giving the same argument that I used to use against superman. Hopefully I can get them to read some, and learn what I learned.
Actuly i was about to say the same thing: I also thought that Supes was kinda lame being so powerfull and so perfect. But after i read more stuff and "grew" up i realized that he has alot more depth than that

[myleftshoe]

I used to think the New FF with GR, spiderman, hulk, wolverine was cool. But when i went back to the comci store to buy the back issues and was kinda like "eh..."



Iron Spidey: Yeah, that's right. Iron-Spidey was cool.


thought you were talking about the sliver armored spidey
http://photobucket.com/image/armor%20spiderman/acheisey3365/CostumeSpideyArmor.gif?o=2

[Buz]

i wont lie

i loved liefelds multitude of guns on every character

not so cool now

[goodm0urning]

Mine is kinda big. Superman.

I used to think superman was a damn stupid character. He is invincible, even when they kill him he just comes back. How could he possibly be an interesting hero if he is so invincible.

Well now I know how ignorant I really was. I have picked up a lot more comics (while before I really hadn't read any superman) and now I understand better now what makes him appealing. I really enjoy superman comics now (all star has been really great, and I love the anything that uses KC superman), and I recently heard someone giving the same argument that I used to use against superman. Hopefully I can get them to read some, and learn what I learned.

Actuly i was about to say the same thing: I also thought that Supes was kinda lame being so powerfull and so perfect. But after i read more stuff and "grew" up i realized that he has alot more depth than thatYer got-damn right...


I used to think that comics-related adaptations were cool--e.g. a film adapted into comics, or a major comics arc adapted into a novelization. I mean, here was all the greatness of (whatever it was at first), compressed into the handy size of (whatever it was turned into)! How can you fuck with that?

It was, of course, almost universally terrible.


On the other hand, I have a couple of Spider-Man anthologies (non-comics, like, actual short stories with no pictures in them) that I think I appreciate now more than I did then. It's an interesting and underused format for superhero stories.

[EndLeSS8]

One word:

Spawn

[Hatred Edge]

*Competely ashamed of himself*
In middle school I thought Youngblood was awesome. Shaft/Die Hard etc....

Looking at it now? Geez. WTF did I spend my money on?

And let's not even get started on the names. I actually liked the character Die Hard. But c'mon...Die Hard?! What the hell is Badrock? Battlestone, Riptide, and of course a villian named get this: The Never Man. The NEVER MAN. And what does the Never Man look like? A large human shaped marshmallow. LMAO at their repeated attempts to be badass.

Anyone remember their catch lines? Youngblood-THIS BLOOD'S FOR YOU!!! Rob Liefield sucks.

[Ghostal]

Thought it was cool/Now it sucks
Sin City.
Used to think it was one of the best comic series ever, but by the time the movie came out, I had long since grown tired of the awful writing and repulsive character models, to the point to where the great action scenes and gratuitous shading couldn't save it. Even Miller's Daredevil arcs had better writing than Sin City and Ronin. Why couldn't he just make more stuff like 300 and The Dark Knight Returns? =(

Thought it sucked/Now it's cool
From Hell and 100 Bullets.
I always enjoyed Alan Moore's work but could never get into From Hell.
It just felt so boring to me as a kid and I didn't get the symbolism as easy as in V for Vendetta and Watchmen. Now I really enjoy it and it really creeps me out every time I read it.

100 Bullets as well, I used to just open it up, see the substandard artwork and put it right back on the shelf. Then years later, I saw it sitting on a Barnes shelf, and out of curiosity I picked it up and started reading it and the story just clicked with me, it was such a well written pulp series. But by that time I was already into Will Eisner and Yoshihiro Tatsumi, so I had already learned to appreciate the substance behind the aesthetic.

[Apathy-Inc]

*Competely ashamed of himself*
In middle school I thought Youngblood was awesome. Shaft/Die Hard etc....

Looking at it now? Geez. WTF did I spend my money on?

And let's not even get started on the names. I actually liked the character Die Hard. But c'mon...Die Hard?! What the hell is Badrock? Battlestone, Riptide, and of course a villian named get this: The Never Man. The NEVER MAN. And what does the Never Man look like? A large human shaped marshmallow. LMAO at their repeated attempts to be badass.

Anyone remember their catch lines? Youngblood-THIS BLOOD'S FOR YOU!!! Rob Liefield sucks.
Badrock was his genius alternative to Bedrock else he face a lawsuit from Hanna Barbera.

Liefield went on record during an old Marvel video stating that he comes up with "cool character names" and then designs the character after it.
Also "kids love chains and shoulder pads".
I wish it was somewhere on the net. They create Overtkill during the video.

[Hatred Edge]

I know about the Bedrock lawsuit. I forgot who Overtkill was though.

[Apathy-Inc]

I know about the Bedrock lawsuit. I forgot who Overtkill was though.
Spawn villain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtkill_(comics)

In the video they titled him "overkill", but Todd changed the name later.

[Hatred Edge]

Oh, that Overtkill. Now I remember. I didn't like that loser.

[myleftshoe]

Image comics were eye candy back then. They had fancy pants art and great color rendering.

was hot/now not:
Pride of the X-MEN. Didn't notice Wolverine's deep australian accent back then

[scum gale 88]

I think Image is a universal "cool then not now" thing.

[m121akuma]

Got another one for myself.

Not cool then/Fucking awesome now:
Captain America

I think this has more to do with Civil War and Bru than anything else though.

[The Grey Ghost]

I'd say just about anything that came out of the 1990s. That's when the big boom occurred where publishers tried every gimmick possible to sucker in people to buy their comics thinking that they'd become a collector's item. Whether it be first appearance of something or some novelty cover/pack-in.

That and the ridiculous trend of portraying professional artists as rock stars. To which again, publishers scooped up every chump who could hold a pencil to crank out a high-selling issue #1.