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woooo weeee that shit is gonna end up being amazing
especially after seeing the map on the last few pages
millar continues to be amazing, imho of course
(pick up kick ass + 1985 if you havent)
Are_you_okay?!
06-18-2008, 04:44 PM
I dunno, I'm skeptical with Wolverine lately. He's overhyped and suffers from problems that Spidey seems to have, where sometimes good writers just fuck him up. Loeb, probably the most polar opposite love/hate writer ever, did a shitastic job during his run.
Wolverine hasn't interested me in a long time, the only remarkable thing I've seen done with him is including him in the X-Men, which was pleasing and neat.
well its basically set 50 years into the future where the earth is a total wasteland and most heroes are dead
him and hawkeye traverse the entire country to deliver something and deal with places like hulkland, dooms lair, and osborn city
this is basically wolverine + mad max
its wicked and totally in canon
Are_you_okay?!
06-18-2008, 05:27 PM
It's in canon "For the moment" Marvel will eventually retcon it or say it's one "Possible" future.
One thing I hate about future comics and stuff. We will never get to this point in comics, at least in any of our lifetimes.
I just treat them as glorified "What if's?".
goodm0urning
06-18-2008, 05:36 PM
It's in canon "For the moment" Marvel will eventually retcon it or say it's one "Possible" future.
One thing I hate about future comics and stuff. We will never get to this point in comics, at least in any of our lifetimes.
I just treat them as glorified "What if's?".I'm sure we're all loathe to consider it, but is continuity really that important? Is a story any better just because it's tenuously connected to an improbably large sequence of other stories that all happened to the same people in the same world?
I think it's kind of like not seeing the forest for the trees when readers reject certain stories for not being real, for not really happening. The reality is, none of them happened, so they're all equally valid in my eyes.
Are_you_okay?!
06-18-2008, 05:40 PM
Not rejecting it based on it's idea, just questioning it. I'll check it out for sure,
just future comics seem like a cop-out in some sense.
Like if a writer wants to drastically turn a character on it's head, 90% of the time it has to be in some type of future. It happened to Hulk, X-Men, Spidey, etc.
Just me complaining about consistency, don't mind it lol.
Pained Auron
06-18-2008, 06:00 PM
mcniven is drawing it. i'm getting it
Zephyranthes
06-18-2008, 07:29 PM
Old Man Logan is off to a rollicking start. Continuity is overrated, it's an imaginary story, aren't they all, etc., etc.
As I've said before, no future story will ever be canon in the long run because it would pigeon hole writers for years and these things get contradicted faster than you can spit because there is no way you can expect writers to keep future stories straight when they have enough trouble dealing with 40 years + worth of stories. Wolverine The End? Blob lost his powers after House of M and Sabretooth died much earlier, retconned. X-Men The End? Gambit is not the third Summers brother, Vulcan is. Retconned. Earth X? Colossus is dead, oh no wait, he's alive... but Wolverine's an evolutionary mistep, not an alien. Retconned. If you can even say 'retconned' because future stories are never really canon... It will happen sooner or later with this arc. Just enjoy the story for what it is, a look at a possible future. 'Sides the way Marvel works, it can be a canon future "right now" and something could happen to retcon it, but then it will become an Alternate Earth, ack... Don't think about it... :wasted:
JQ said that this future is supposed to have ties to 1985. Haven't read that yet so don't know much about that book.
Loved the first issue. Hulk's descendants lol! :rofl:
I'm sure we're all loathe to consider it, but is continuity really that important? .
greatest dumb quote ever... "contuity is for white people"
:rofl:
the old guard dc and marvel protect comic present and future wayyyy to much. the past is easily fucked with. the future should have a definite end, or have a definite what it will look like. all stories should pan out in a 10-20 span to end up to that future...why? because that would be creative as fuck...sumtin the old guard wouldnt ever do.
LOL it's funny that Hawkeye winds up blind in both this future and in M2 (Spider-Girl, J2, American Dream where you can see blind Hawkeye, etc). Poor guy oooh...
akumatrunigga
06-19-2008, 04:45 PM
hmmm i agree with sano. the arc is just an excuse to give you an idea of the next big crossover coming up.
Are_you_okay?!
06-21-2008, 09:28 AM
So has anyone picked this up yet? I just got it yesterday and finished reading the issue, for the most part I really enjoyed it, which makes it worse that I won't see more of this cool future. But I'm getting off topic, so here's some stuff I want answered and thought was cool.
First off the map and the four kingdoms. How the fuck did the Kingpin take over Magneto's territory? It sure wasn't by fighting one on one that's for damn sure...
Did Hulk just shack up with a bunch of crazy red necks? Or "Green" Necks.
What the fuck happened to the heroes?
Onto stuff I thought was cool. Giving Wolverine some emotion is great, I like Wolverine a lot, I'm a closet fan (No homo). It's just most times I see him he's like "Blargh I'm Canadian!" and goes clawing up crap while saying bub every .5 seconds.
The only Wolverine I've liked in recent years was the Joss Whedon Astonishing run version, and oddly the New Avengers one, especially during the Hood arc.
Interesting thing you might not notice:
Apparently the Lizard is now the Lizard King, shown on the map in Florida. Now flip over your issue of Old Man Logan, doesn't that look like the Lizard with the symbiote? Oh my god that'll be cool lol.
gabrielzero
06-21-2008, 10:17 AM
I haven't picked it up yet. But I really want too.
Did anyone read Logan in the "X-Force : Ain't no Dog" one shot ?
myleftshoe
07-06-2008, 11:06 PM
Did Hulk just shack up with a bunch of crazy red necks? Or "Green" Necks.
They kinda look like Hulk and She Hulk got it on. Yeah i said it
Map reminds of AOA territories
im kinda pissed off i didnt get this variant when i saw it
http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/comics/onsale/covers/uploaded/0.242590001213626616image_big.jpg
it was 50 bones and im really pissed off i didnt get it when it was right in front of me
fistoftheryustar
07-07-2008, 02:21 AM
hmmm i agree with sano. the arc is just an excuse to give you an idea of the next big crossover coming up.
oh god who else fuckin hates shit like that. u kinna wish they would go all out and have some balls...take a leap and actually say this is whats going to happen to this character, this is what its going to be about, this is how this story ends.
does anyone have any idea what the artwork will be like?
oh god who else fuckin hates shit like that. u kinna wish they would go all out and have some balls...take a leap and actually say this is whats going to happen to this character, this is what its going to be about, this is how this story ends.
Both to you and Maxx, just stopped being lazy to respond in more detail lol -It's difficult to do stuff like that with American comics because well... Unless the industry dies or 616 no longer exists or something by 2050 comics will still be around and of course there is no way the actual future can match up to whatever is in a comic book. By 2050 you can bet that all of the characters will still be 20-30 and will be set in that world (whatever movies, music, technology is being used) and not have aged much.
I suppose you can compare it to... well, Hokuto No Ken AKA Fist of the North Star, like your name and avatar lol! The future for that has been 199X when it was written. We know for a fact that the world didn't 'end' in 199X. So already, it's not timeless as American comics try to be, it defaults to an alternate reality of sorts, can no way happen in our world - like American comics try to come off as. If someone revamps Hokuto No Ken, the very first thing they'll say is that it happens in "2030" or some far off year. Well, the creators have still stuck to 199X and now even more so with the prequel Fist of the Blue Sky it has to take place in 199X, but I guarantee you if they ever revamp the franchise it will not take place in 199X. Already it loses some of it's impact when you know going in that this doesn't happen to our world, but world X...
Any future story you should regard to as 'the future of right now' because writers aren't psychic and everything has to be based on what we know right now and there are plenty of things that are not going to hold up. Like, the NES Strider game set in the future where they use FLOPPY DISCS! Or the original Star Trek and Star Wars being the future of the 60s/70s. Okay I know Star Wars happened a long time ago, but bell bottoms and side burns in the old trilogy and martial arts in the new trilogy... it's the future of then/now all over again....
The usual safe way around this is to place the future faaaaaar into the future, like Cable's future or Legion of Super Heroes. Or 2099 where they don't mention too much what happened to characters in the past avoiding writers getting pigeon holed. Of course we will eventually hit 2099 and if the people of that time never see a flying car... Well... :looney: Though again, if you don't use a future that involves many of our favorite characters, there is no real hook and like who really cares? So it's very problematic...
Hmm I don't know how confusing this all is because anything involving time is difficult to talk about... The best example I can give you is The Jetsons on Harvey Birdman. George Jetson was talking about 'The Future' that would take place around 2000 and Harvey Birdman looked at him like he was stupid and checked his calender to see that it was 2005 or whatever current year it was, seeing how we didn't have any of the crap he was talking about. :rofl: For Jetsons, the series is done, any revamps will extend the time to 3000, doesn't matter. But for Marvel / DC who try to stay current with whoever is buying comics at the time and try to mantain a constant continuity, future stories just aren't going to hold up in the long run.
So just take this and any / all future stories as "The future of right now" or "The future of whenever they are written." I mean, seriously, do you think any future writers predicted the Twin Towers would fall and they would eventually be replaced with 2 buildings that look nothing like them? Robotech The New Generation AKA Mospeada no longer happens oh nooos... :rofl: So until the second coming of Nostraldamus starts writing comics, expect these things to not hold up...
Shorter version of this post - Don't take this too seriously, sit back and enjoy a good story because that's what Old Man Logan is gosh darn it all to heck! If you want to believe that this is the definitive future, feel free. At the very least since Marvel is tying this with 1985 and whatever's going on in Fantastic Four, they won't retcon it any time soon so just sit back and enjoy. :woot:
lol i forgot i posted in this thread.
old people suck. WUT WUT!
Hmm should I make a long and boring post defending old people like myself? Nah... "When I was your age we didn't have no internets..." :rofl:
Hmm should I make a long and boring post defending old people like myself? Nah... "When I was your age we didn't have no internets..." :rofl:
jeez how old are u grandpa sano?
33. Hey they say that 30 is the new 60! :party: Hmm on second thought, for Marvel it's more like your comic being around for 40 years means you are only 25... So 7 years shy of being 25. HYPER TIME! :rofl:
33. Hey they say that 30 is the new 60! :party: Hmm on second thought, for Marvel it's more like your comic being around for 40 years means you are only 25... So 7 years shy of being 25. HYPER TIME! :rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
shut up sano..your not getting retconned lol.
shut up sano..your not getting retconned lol.
Drat! Foiled again... :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
"When I was your age we didn't have no Old Man Logan. We had Young Man Logan, who turned out to be over 200 years old and fought in both World Wars... Wait a second, we DID have Old Man Logan!" :wow:
"We still didn't have no internets though and if we wanted to bitch about a future story we had to write a letter to a comic book and pray to 7 out of 10 gods that our letter got printed. Not to mention, the mailbox was 1,000 miles away uphill and the road was covered with thorns and we had to walk barefoot! (Yeah, that sounds good...) You young whipper snappers don't know how good you have it..."
:lol:
Drat! Foiled again... :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
"When I was your age we didn't have no Old Man Logan. We had Young Man Logan, who turned out to be over 200 years old and fought in both World Wars... Wait a second, we DID have Old Man Logan!" :wow:
"We still didn't have no internets though and if we wanted to bitch about a future story we had to write a letter to a comic book and pray to 7 out of 10 gods that our letter got printed. Not to mention, the mailbox was 1,000 miles away uphill and the road was covered with thorns and we had to walk barefoot! (Yeah, that sounds good...) You young whipper snappers don't know how good you have it..."
:lol:
<3 sano
Are_you_okay?!
07-07-2008, 01:54 PM
I wonder how old Logan is at this point in time, jesus he'd have to be....
Close to 150-160? Sounds about right.
I wonder how old Logan is at this point in time, jesus he'd have to be....
Close to 150-160? Sounds about right.
Yeah Wolverine Origin took place around 1860 or around there (late ninteenth century officially) so 150-160 sounds about right, give or take.
Are_you_okay?!
07-07-2008, 02:09 PM
Yeah Wolverine Origin took place around 1860 or around there so sounds about right.
Yeah was basing it off Origins, great piece of work. I still like the idea of Sabretooth being his former friend in that story, but I doubt Marvel will bite that bullet lol.
Just because I don't want to open a seperate thread on this, who the heck is in your Avatar Sano? It looks familiar but I just can't place it.
Sagara Sanosuke off the manga and anime Rurouni Kenshin. Which took place during 1860 or so also ha ha ha! I'm just waiting for Watsuki to get around to telling the story of when Sagara Sanosuke travels to Canada and beats up young Wolverine hell yeah! :looney:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagara_Sanosuke
Eh maybe they just have a few beers or something... :sweat:
Are_you_okay?!
07-07-2008, 02:36 PM
Sagara Sanosuke off the manga and anime Rurouni Kenshin. Which took place during 1860 or so also ha ha ha! I'm just waiting for Watsuki to get around to telling the story of when Sagara Sanosuke travels to Canada and beats up young Wolverine hell yeah! :looney:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagara_Sanosuke
Eh maybe they just have a few beers or something... :sweat:
Ahh thanks a lot for that, was bugging me. I'm a fan of Kenshin/Samurai X, just never clicked lol.
Zephyranthes
07-07-2008, 06:00 PM
Yeah was basing it off Origins, great piece of work.
Haha, where the crap you at, Clinty? Fool's been M.I.A. in the SRK Comic Book Forum for months now.
Are_you_okay?!
07-07-2008, 07:25 PM
Haha, where the crap you at, Clinty? Fool's been M.I.A. in the SRK Comic Book Forum for months now.
Does he usually have a rant on the Origins comic? :wonder:
Carpet Lint
07-08-2008, 01:41 PM
I've been completely backlogged on some issues, so I've been avoiding this forum entirely because I know the tenancy of SRK posters to spoil anything and everything.
I also owe Zephy money, so I've been dodging him for a while in hopes he doesn't break my thumbs.
I just finished another Yellow Fever rant in General Discussion too. If I roll out an Origin rant, I'd only be a Street Fighter movie post away from a Carpet Lint Hat Trick.
For the record though, I have no issues specifically with Origins, the ongoing series based off Origin, the miniseries. I kinda just lump it all together with Origin, along with all the craziness that happened in House of M. I haven't even read any of Origins, so it could be like the greatest comic book of all time and I wouldn't know. ...even if it was though, I still wouldn't like it.
I don't know, it's just the whole idea of even attempting something like this in the first place was a bad one. I mean the whole appeal of the character is because he's got this shady past that's been alluded to so many times over the years, and it's like a bottomless well of material for whatever stories you feel like.
Samurai stories, Alpha Flight, CIA, Deparment H, Weapon-X, that stage in his life when he was running through the Canadian woods naked and killing deer with his bare hands...even sorid, ill-advised sexual misadventures (ie. marrying Viper, etc.)...it's all there.
And then at the end of the story, it's like "Oops, Weapon-X memory plant! Didn't actually happen, back to status quo!"
And life was good.
Though I certainly understand the need to develop characters and move storylines ahead, especially on the Marvel side versus for DC which enjoys rooting its ageless, iconic characters in the status quo for 60+ years, with just a Crisis every now and then for some housecleaning.
But that's the problem. It was Chris Claremont (in the 80's when he was still sane) or Frank Miller that said...if you're going to tell Wolverine's origin, then it better be the best Wolverine story ever told.
And that's something I believe in greatly, because if you're going to do something radical to the character and fundamentally change his history or standing in the Marvel universe...then it should be, AT THE VERY LEAST...like...an actually GOOD story.
Instead, it was like the crappiest Wolverine story ever told. Which is like the complete opposite of what Frank Miller (I think it was Frank Miller) was saying. So...great job there, Paul Jenkins and Joe Q and Bill Jemas.
God, it's just the most boring thing ever...it's just like eighteen issues (But like six in reality? Or eight?) of just a bunch of poofs wandering around speaking in Victoria Era English. Absolutely nothing is addressed or answered by the story, and it just ultimately ends up making one of the toughest, most badass characters in comic book history look like an absolute pussy as a kid.
The same guy that goes toe to toe with the Hulk, and the same guy who took apart the entire Hellfire Club back in Uncanny #whatever, and the same guy that does all that badass stuff...
...he had asthma as kid, cried when his puppy died (even HAD A PUPPY IN THE FIRST PLACE), and screamed like a little girl when his claws popped out for the first time...I don't know, to me, that seems like something that takes away from the character instead of adding to it.
The thing is that I look like the crazy guy for thinking of this, and they're making busts and spotlighting "Wolverine popping his claws for the first time!" as something that's cool...when it's probably like one of the sissiest, most non-Wolverine moments in the history of the character.
Furthermore, the story doesn't even do anything aside establish where Wolvie gets his redhead fetish from.
If you're telling the definitive Wolverine story...wouldn't you expect certain questions to be answered? Like...is Sabretooth really his father? What's the deal with Silver Fox and him? What did he do back in those Weapon-X missions along with Sabretooth and Maverick? When did he travel to Japan to train to be a samurai and meet Mariko? What about all the Madripoor history and his Patch persona? Any answers about those?
Nope.
Just amazing to me how they managed to actually finally tell the definite origin story for Wolverine, the story that fans have been wondering about for like twenty, thirty years...and then not only manage to not answer any questions and satisfy anything at all, but actually manage to take away from the character and turn him into a bitch.
It was like the exact opposite of what DKR did for Batman.
God, I hate Origin.
The art was nice, though.
Are_you_okay?!
07-08-2008, 01:54 PM
Ahh well that's the rant, lol.
To be fair, the characterization as a kid was not a way to make him look like a pussy, it made him more human. I don't think you busted out of your mother's womb smoking a cigarette and kicking ass did you? Considering the way he was raised (Semi-spoiled rich boy, kept inside) I didn't expect him to be this amazing ass-kicking, name taking boy on the block.
As anyone does in situations like that, he manned up and faced his problems before starting a new life for himself. Nothing wrong with that characterization.
I enjoyed the origin, and it was only a very small part of Wolverine's life.
nGuman
07-08-2008, 02:30 PM
Ahh well that's the rant, lol.
To be fair, the characterization as a kid was not a way to make him look like a pussy, it made him more human. I don't think you busted out of your mother's womb smoking a cigarette and kicking ass did you? Considering the way he was raised (Semi-spoiled rich boy, kept inside) I didn't expect him to be this amazing ass-kicking, name taking boy on the block.
As anyone does in situations like that, he manned up and faced his problems before starting a new life for himself. Nothing wrong with that characterization.
I enjoyed the origin, and it was only a very small part of Wolverine's life.
It would be awesome (as in comically haha pun albeit a bad one) to put that for someone's origin. I hope Sergio Aragones does something like that (if he hasn't already)
fistoftheryustar
07-09-2008, 12:28 AM
SPOILERS: Semi OT about Sabretooth
Ill reply to the other stuff later, but about Wolverine #55 from last year.
SPOILERS.........Its really sad to know that Sabretooth died the way he did. Very anti-climactic. Worse is that if they make that the official story arc, there might not be a way to bring Sabretooth back.
Also for those who read back in the 90s...is there a story arc where Wolverine dies saving earth in some battle/duel with I think Galactus. I think someone said his claw breaks and sticks him in the heart?
Found this on Old Man Logan: http://loganfiles.proboards92.com/index.cgi?board=reviews&action=display&thread=304
gabrielzero
07-12-2008, 04:24 PM
Wasn't he Thomas Logan's bastard child though ? Because his mom was sleeping with the gardener ?
lolz
Violent By Design
07-13-2008, 08:30 AM
If Iron Fist ain't in this, then fuck this shit.
Are_you_okay?!
07-13-2008, 02:39 PM
If Iron Fist ain't in this, then fuck this shit.
Yeah, Iron Fist got the shaft.
Literally, Magneto shoved a pole up his ass, ruptured his insides.
So yeah he died in the great holocaust when all of the heroes died, but his third daughter shows up named Tonya, and she's Black! :wow: Tonya also hooked up with Future Hawkeye and had a Spider Daughter lol! So, what does this mean, is Spidey gonna wind up with Lily Hollister? I mean, it is his third child so he could still wind up with MJ to have May (or, Mary like the last issue of Sensational Spider-Man called her in a possible future pre OMD) and Ben (Ben is in both that Sensational issue and Spider-Girl) and MJ might bite it Earth X style so he can have another kid with someone else. Or he could just have 3 kids with Lily, heck maybe even another African American! Um, yeah way to further twist that screwdriver in the gut of us Spidey/MJ fans Marvel lol! Can't wait to see what happens next in Old Man Logan, HE'S OOOOOOOOOLD! :looney:
myleftshoe
08-18-2008, 02:25 PM
So yeah he died in the great holocaust when all of the heroes died, but his third daughter shows up named Tonya, and she's Black! :wow: Tonya also hooked up with Future Hawkeye and had a Spider Daughter lol! So, what does this mean, is Spidey gonna wind up with Lily Hollister? I mean, it is his third child so he could still wind up with MJ to have May (or, Mary like the last issue of Sensational Spider-Man called her in a possible future pre OMD) and Ben (Ben is in both that Sensational issue and Spider-Girl) and MJ might bite it Earth X style so he can have another kid with someone else. Or he could just have 3 kids with Lily, heck maybe even another African American! Um, yeah way to further twist that screwdriver in the gut of us Spidey/MJ fans Marvel lol! Can't wait to see what happens next in Old Man Logan, HE'S OOOOOOOOOLD! :looney:
wasn't sure if spoiler was still nessecary
I thought Hawkeye was just a little older than spidey? Hawkeye's daughter looks about 18-20, so i'm guessing he hit up Parker's daughter when she was that age?
Well, the story is 50 years in the future so the timing is a little sticky. I'm guessing Spidey's third daughter is about 45, so she was born 5 years after Secret Invasion or so, AKA current Marvel time(for us that's like 10+ years of comics lol). Hawkeye can tap her when she's 20-30 and it can fit I suppose.
Pained Auron
08-18-2008, 08:09 PM
what issue # did wolvie completely own the hellfire club? i umm wanna see if i can preview it
Uncanny X-Men #133 -
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/uncanny-x-men/133-1.jpg
PS I freaking love the 40 Years of X-Men DVD-Rom. Took me less than five minutes to find that issue. :lovin:
myleftshoe
08-18-2008, 09:23 PM
Uncanny X-Men #133 -
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/uncanny-x-men/133-1.jpg
PS I freaking love the 40 Years of X-Men DVD-Rom. Took me less than five minutes to find that issue. :lovin:
i was thinking about getting that, the price so low. How'd you find it so fast? Do you just scroll thru the covers? Or is there an index/search engine?
Either way i should go buy it
I knew that it took place during the 80s. It's part of the Dark Phoenix Saga and it's even in the Dark Phoenix TPB. But yeah if I didn't know I would of scanned through the covers, and the issues themselves if I had to.
There's a way to run searches but you have to be really broad like issue numbers and years because that's how the PDF files are named. So no you can't run a search for Hellfire Club or anything like that. I think your better off just going through the covers/issues.
Pained Auron
08-18-2008, 09:51 PM
thanks Sano. your demise will be postponed one more day. get it?
thanks Sano. your demise will be postponed one more day. get it?
:rofl:
ahaha oh man this issue was great
even though i cried a bit being a daredevil fan :(
brandowned
08-28-2008, 11:59 AM
I'm really liking this series.
Was it me or did Kingpin look kind of like 50 Cent? :rofl:
deadfrog
08-28-2008, 12:10 PM
I'm sure we're all loathe to consider it, but is continuity really that important? Is a story any better just because it's tenuously connected to an improbably large sequence of other stories that all happened to the same people in the same world?
I think it's kind of like not seeing the forest for the trees when readers reject certain stories for not being real, for not really happening. The reality is, none of them happened, so they're all equally valid in my eyes.
Goodm0urning, you are a real man's comic book guru and I love your posts.
Zephyranthes
08-28-2008, 12:33 PM
I gotta admit, goody's one of my favorite posters here. He's probably the one dude in the Comic Book Forum who's more pretentious than I am. For that, he deserves respect.
Wolfkiller
08-28-2008, 02:33 PM
They'd better have a DAMN good explanation as to why Wolvie would rather die than pop his claws. If they leave it at "They broke me" and don't give a really good reason why, I'mma be PISSED!
They will. Millar doesn't play like that.
gabrielzero
09-14-2008, 08:38 AM
I'm glad everyone is loving this series. I think it's astounding myself.
RoninChaos
10-04-2008, 10:31 PM
What are the issue numbers of this arc? Isn't Millar doing Fantastic Four as well? Hook me up with the issue numbers, yo! Time to go to the shop.
Cody Travers
10-05-2008, 06:21 AM
What are the issue numbers of this arc? Isn't Millar doing Fantastic Four as well? Hook me up with the issue numbers, yo! Time to go to the shop.
Old Man Logan #66-68
issue #69 comes out on Nov.12
Fantastic Four #554-560
Issue #561 comes out on Oct.22
Bricklayer
10-28-2008, 07:33 AM
so far im pretty pleased with this series, I think it has potential to be marvels version of The Dark Knight Returns.....with an emphasis on the word potential. it also gives me a healthy appreciation for Hawkeye and all his bad-assednes
kane_warhead
10-28-2008, 07:46 AM
Old man Logan is great... definitely one of the better recent wolverine stories.
voodazz
10-28-2008, 08:21 AM
This is series is refreshingly gory as hell.
hold dat
10-29-2008, 07:38 AM
Lovin this arc also
hopefully i'll get to see Wolverine do some good fighting. i've been dissapointed like most with Origins yet i cant stop buying every issue...*sigh*
I dont think a physical beating is what f''d wolverine up so much, im guessing they made him watch while they either tortured or killed one of his loves/friends
Enemy of the state had potential, wasnt too crazy about his civil war arc until he scrapped with Namor for a bit. I've been getting my fix with his one shots lately. (What if Wolverine never recovered from his hydra brainwashing was a good one shot, watching him kill spiderman and Cap was entertaining)
anyway i'm thankful for old man logan, im interested to see if theres any future Captain Americas around. maybe bucky and black widow have a kid or something lol
fistoftheryustar
10-29-2008, 11:28 AM
Origins was definitely disappointing. Theres no way they were gunna lvie off the hype. Part of who Wolverine is, is his mysterious past and where his "ive been around" attitude comes from. No matter what they put in there it'll never live up to the mystery.
For Old man Logan, its nice to see them actually having balls and talking about the future instead of like the other billion prequels we keep getting in the video game industry and comics.
Old Man Logan from the issue descriptions sound awesome. I really want to see what kind of fight Logan has left in him. Him and Hawkeye what a random match up
Last issue was just bananas. Damn in this future the heroes of our day really got KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT! :wow:
gabrielzero
11-28-2008, 04:21 PM
Fantastic Four #561 (preview)
Writers: Mark Millar
Penciler: Bryan Hitch
Inker: Bryan Hitch, Andrew Currie & Cam Smith
A direct tie-in to ‘Old Man Logan’.
Really.
There is a Fantastic Four tie in.
Check out issue 561
LINK TO INFO <--- (http://www.typingmonkeys.com/wolverine/2008/11/22/wolverine-week-in-review-avengersinvaders-fantastic-four/)
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