Monster/Monster: Ancient Cline Discussion thread!

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

To phase the other thread out, I decided to make this one. I will update this post with all of the newest information regarding this game.

Official Monster Youtube page (http://www.youtube.com/user/8105Monster)

http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w27/ayaimmortal/?action=view&current=Interface_02.jpg Our new monster interface

Monster IRC channel

Server: irc.mizuumi.net
Channel: #8105monster

[Hayama Akito]

Posting on the thread of my most hyped fighting game of 2008 (yeah, really so what?).

[fallot]

Posting in possibly epic thread. Its too bad about the demo Aya but tide us over with some sneak peaks!

[CyberAkuma]

It all comes to an end....and then begins again!

Looking forward to this game very much still, even if there will be no demo, August, and thus, Comiket, is only a mere month away now...

[30_60_90]

hype hype hype!
hypehypehype!!!

[wolfox_okamicha]

Needs moar kemono!

[CyberAkuma]

I just need time to speed up already. The sooner time passes, the sooner it will be Comiket, and the sooner this game shall be unleashed in full.

[Xiii]

You never know with fighting games nowadays, this might be huge if the community shows enough support at the start to pull in people who usually wouldn't bother just because the game really doesn't require a strong computer to run (it's mostly 2d and I've yet to hear anybody get slowdowns from the 3d particle effects) and we'll be giving it a lot of community support with tourneys, wikis and videos =D

HYPE HYPE HYPE, little more than a month to go.

[frustratedsquirrel]

All aboard the hype train!

But really, I'm still very concerned about the new Aleksandr. (and to the lesser extent, Seilie)

YOU PROMISED US THE CHARACTERS WOULD BE BALANCED, RIGHT?

[Xiii]

I bet you Aleksandr will still be at the bottom half of the tier list still.

I really doubt any of the new characters will breach the top. Will probably be Katze, Ryougen and Siely at the top beasting hard and maybe Othello as well. This is just a guess without any knowledge of changes, but the upper echelons of the cast has always been those Katze, Ryougen and Othello and Siely popped in there later when she started getting buffed like crazy over multiple patches. It'll be balanced enough to allow all characters to compete though if it's anything like previous patches pre 1.11b which made Aleksandr the only character that wasn't really playable anymore at a high level imo.

[Hatred Edge]

No demo?:sad:

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

All aboard the hype train!

But really, I'm still very concerned about the new Aleksandr. (and to the lesser extent, Seilie)

YOU PROMISED US THE CHARACTERS WOULD BE BALANCED, RIGHT?

I promised they would be as balanced as they can be, I cant promise that they will all be equal, that could never happen lol:rofl:

and no demo, I got a resounding no on that front.

http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w27/ayaimmortal/?action=view&current=Interface_02.jpg New screenshot of our new interface

[wolfox_okamicha]

lmao Katze's face is hilarious.

Although, the art seems different - as if it's not done by Shok.

[CyberAkuma]

lmao Katze's face is hilarious.

Although, the art seems different - as if it's not done by Shok.

Some of it seems to be done by a number of his friends...that art of Katze is the same one that was done by Katze's creators for that "Desktop Background" pic that's on the 8105 web site.

I hope that's just place-holder art for the sake of the beta that they're working with...

[frustratedsquirrel]

I recognized that art straight away. It was done by Katze's creator.

He looks pretty insane in that picture. XD

[Xiii]

Hm, I have a request that only one person on this board can comply to. I would like to know if new music is confirmed for the AC release and if one track could be released to us early.

Reason? I suddenly got an urge to start working on some music again and I thought it would be cool since we have a month to go I could remix a track to get something hopefully fitting for a combo video that will obviously be released soon after AC comes out because we're all crazy like that.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

yes there is new music, and the old music is being redone. I have some of the new tracks.

[Xiii]

Weee, okay I have something now from Aya. Even though I have a feeling I'm going to get super lazy once I start getting picky with my samples, but who knows, least this will tide me over for a month.

[frustratedsquirrel]

I'm very glad to hear the old music is being redone. I hope that the first level's theme sounds as cool as I'm expecting it to. That was one piece of music from Monster that stuck in my head like an arrow fired by an angry apache.

[rogueyoshi]

it was stuck in everyone's head

[Darkstalker]

yes there is new music, and the old music is being redone. I have some of the new tracks.

fuck yeah

[aqualung]

awesome! really looking forward to this =D

/hype

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

news for everyone who wanted to know about delga...

Look forward to him possibly being top tier....That is all

I think its time for IRC room again... Siky, Make it happen

[MiLky]

news for everyone who wanted to know about delga...

Look forward to him possibly being top tier....That is all

I think its time for IRC room again... Siky, Make it happen

Is his original command grab back in effect?

[clue2025]

Man I wanna try this one. When's it bein released?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Is his original command grab back in effect?

play the game and youll find out.

Clue: august 16th

[Xiii]

Update first post with release date and IRC Server info. I'll try to find bell so we can get back auto-ops.

Server: irc.mizuumi.net
Channel: #8105monster

Get connected at mirc.com!

[koogy]

KEMONO INVASION HITS AUGUST 16TH

OOOOH NOOOOOO

x

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Ok bitches, get back into the IRC room NOW.

[ZoDDto]

Just few days and we gonna try demo. Right? ;P

[frustratedsquirrel]

Gah! D: First Aleks, then Delga and Seilie...possibly Efleet...looks like poor Othello is going to be mid-tier!

Top Tier:
Delga
Aleksandr
Maya
Seilie
Katze

Mid Tier
Othello < OWWOOOWOWOOOO ;_; *cuts chest*)
Orju
etc.

[Turbovec]

Gah! D: First Aleks, then Delga and Seilie...possibly Efleet...looks like poor Othello is going to be mid-tier!

Top Tier:
Delga
Aleksandr
Maya
Seilie
Katze

Mid Tier
Othello < OWWOOOWOWOOOO ;_; *cuts chest*)
Orju
etc.

Waaaaay too early to even say anything. I say we just wait. :looney:

[frustratedsquirrel]

Aya's still scaring me though...although it's true that we won't know the competitive value of the characters until we play it properly. After all, there could be new characters who are even more frightening! XD

Still, being told that attention has gone to balance makes me a bit more relieved.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Waaaaay too early to even say anything. I say we just wait. :looney:

It isnt even that it is too early, the game isnt even out yet, He shouldnt even be saying anything lol. I mean shit, I work on the game and I dont even know what the tiers are going to be like =\.:rolleyes:

[Clear Sky]

I think no one is more hyped about this game than frustratedsquirrel. :rofl:

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Hence his name lol

[koogy]

no i'm hype too i'm tanning right now so i can get even more hype

[frustratedsquirrel]

Yes, I am indeed quite hyped about this game.

Not just because of the kemono theme, but also because I actually quite like how it plays.

Once you understand that the concept of shift isn't the same as a normal special bar, the gameplay gets really fun. I'll be looking forwards to see what the new system will feel like.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Yes, I am indeed quite hyped about this game.

Not just because of the kemono theme, but also because I actually quite like how it plays.

Once you understand that the concept of shift isn't the same as a normal special bar, the gameplay gets really fun. I'll be looking forwards to see what the new system will feel like.

Im pretty sure that everyone here knows what it works like, But your right none the less. Let the hype continue lol

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Just want everyone to know that ALL of the characters for the PC version are fully completed! The system is completed too(finally because i was getting tired lol) All the work on monster will be finished on July 25(my birthday!) On the 26th, I suggest EVERYONE join the IRC room because i will have a suprise for the monster community!

[FullMetalRoss]

Zomg yay. On a saturday! can't wait. I call the new Zonkey character!

[Random123456789]

I'll be on (though I've never been in an IRC room before).

[Hayama Akito]

Well, i was waiting for new screenshots and info in the latest Arcadia Magazine (considering that Examu shows Suggoi! Arcana Heart 2 and Daemon Bride) but nothing =(

I will be there in the IRC channel... im not really "into the community" but i love Monster, so...

[aqualung]

exciting!

/hype hype hype

[CyberAkuma]

Good stuff.

[Xiii]

Hayama, you can be part of it now since if all goes well, netcode will allow you to have a taste of the US Monster scene. We're like Lays, one is never enough.

[Hayama Akito]

Hayama, you can be part of it now since if all goes well, netcode will allow you to have a taste of the US Monster scene. We're like Lays, one is never enough.

How good is the Monster netplay? to be honest i just play with two guys here in my country but we love the game... is really THAT good? because, if this can be used as a comparison, i can play with US people in GGPO/2DF.

We arent really that good, but we enjoy the game a lot. Some time ago we tried to capture our matches with FRAPS but my CPU cant handle it (it works around 50/30 fps).

[Xiii]

From what Aya has said about it, he can play ShoK from US to Japan perfectly fine and that playing people from the UK should be no problem. Don't worry if you don't think you're any good, we all get better by playing each other and we honestly wouldn't have been able to get better without that. You only grow as fast as your competition and we'd all still be scrubs if we didn't have people like Fooligar, Aya and Spootz in our community to play and Xenozip to blog about shit to keep other people informed.

Plus if anything, we have people to capture footage already if you play with us if that's any incentive and I will be trying to put together ranbat vids on youtube for everyone to enjoy. Just gotta buy me a new soundcard so I can capture sound.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Gah. Looks like you guys might even finish this thing early! That's awesome. I guess I'll look into joining the IRC.

[MAGUS1234]

Just let me know who is broken tier and fear not I will be spamming them.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

From what Aya has said about it, he can play ShoK from US to Japan perfectly fine and that playing people from the UK should be no problem. Don't worry if you don't think you're any good, we all get better by playing each other and we honestly wouldn't have been able to get better without that. You only grow as fast as your competition and we'd all still be scrubs if we didn't have people like Fooligar, Aya and Spootz in our community to play and Xenozip to blog about shit to keep other people informed.

Plus if anything, we have people to capture footage already if you play with us if that's any incentive and I will be trying to put together ranbat vids on youtube for everyone to enjoy. Just gotta buy me a new soundcard so I can capture sound.

Yeah, that was in the old testing that we did a few months ago. Monster was using a netcode similar to that of caster from iamp and it worked fine for me and Shok. I remember him saying he was going to try getting that netcode upgraded but we havent spoken much on the netcoding issue since that point so I dont really know whats going on as far as that is concerned anymore. When i find out, I will let you guys know. I think we will probably be testing that up until the 25th.

[wolfox_okamicha]

Is this date US date? Because if it is, that means I actually have to wait until it's 26 here (Eastern time). XD

[Hayama Akito]

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1216643_1124.html

First in-game screenshots and a new character revealed (Oomizuao, Katze Sioux brother lol)

[MiLky]

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1216643_1124.html

First in-game screenshots and a new character revealed (Oomizuao, Katze Sioux brother lol)

Graphics looking pretty good. The Indian cat dude in the Gap clothes is kinda weird looking, don't know if I like it. The other dude looks like he could be in a Capcom Ghosts and Goblins game, cool!

[aqualung]

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1216643_1124.html

First in-game screenshots and a new character revealed (Oomizuao, Katze Sioux brother lol)


nice find =D


interesting, very interesting


somewhere within the google translation, it says 6 new characters? wha? that cant be right?

I assumed that there was gonna be 2 new ones.

[Hayama Akito]

somewhere within the google translation, it says 6 new characters? wha? is that true? or just for the arcade version ; ; ?

This was commented since the game was confirmed for Arcades, yep, 6 new chars.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Whoa, I'm liking Katze's brother. He looks very um...proper compared to his (younger?) bro.

And Ha, I knew that elf guy was a new character the minute I saw his face on the AC website.

This is cool! Two New characters already and the designs are looking promising. I wonder what kind of fighting style they're going to have? Gaaah, so tease!

Shaman of Haze, hmm? Why am I thinking that he'll be a deceptive and tricky character with possible smoke or ice based attacks?

[fallot]

Looks super nice. I didn't expect it to look that crisp. The interface looks quite nice too.

Edit: Have to say it again, this game level'd up very nicely.
Edit2: Oh hey there's a Daemon Bride article too.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Looks super nice. I didn't expect it to look that crisp. The interface looks quite nice too.

Edit: Have to say it again, this game level'd up very nicely.
Edit2: Oh hey there's a Daemon Bride article too.

Ill make sure to tell shok everyone likes what they see lol. And this is just the beginning =P :evillaugh:

[Turbovec]

Is that Katze doing an airdash (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/__icsFiles/artimage/2008/07/14/pc_fc_n_gn/monsuta004.jpg)?!

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

in a sense. he isnt exactly doing an airdash persae. Freedom has changed quite a bit from what it used to be. Freedom now uses "FRC like" execution to do combos. Katze's freedom shift move is a dash. That picture shows him doing that move in the air

[fallot]

Isn't that the usual double jump effect? Maybe that particular shot makes it look like a dash?

Edit: Oh >.>

[Xiii]

The double jump effect is different. You can only jump upwards with it, whether it be backwards, straight up or forward again after. The Shift move is brand new and allows Katze to dash forward in mid-air. What's great about this is that since dash canceling was removed, this has been it's new replacement and being able to dash in the air or on the ground makes it a badass feature.

P.S. Maya looks funny lol.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igyeZ8neP7s

i uploaded another peice of test footage. Coming soon will be actual ingame footage.

[FullMetalRoss]

Unblockable!

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

there you go lol

[[Real_bout]Yang]

Wow, this look amazing, really a good changes for sure, about the new brother of Katze, well, looks..like katze with another body but any new character is always great.

Well as Hayama Said previously we play monster here with a few guys,

i'll try to upload some matches from me and Hayama, we really get a lot of fun with this game.

Anyone can enter to the Monster irc channel?

[aqualung]

Yang;5359243']
Anyone can enter to the Monster irc channel?



you bet =D the more the merrier too, Monster doesnt get quite the appreciation that other games get, so people that are actually interested in playing and stuff are more than welcome to come hang out!



o m g It looks like im not gonna have to switch from freedom =D =D =D

getting more excited about this with every post from aya, or chipv5, or whatever the hell your name is lol

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

My name is Aya lol. I actually dont even play guilty gear lol. Which is ironic i would have this name for when i did a long time ago. Anyway. Just call me aya.

[wolfox_okamicha]

lmao at Katze's bro

[Tiberious]

I've been halfway following the threads on this game, and if there's still time, and if the creator can be reached, I'd like to seriously propose some better, more natural anglicizing of the names (but still matching the original Japanese).

This -is- the 21st century, after all, and translations have gotten MUCH better than 'All your base'... I'd hate to see this game suffer from bad transliterations.

Edit:
From what I can see, the two BIGGEST offenders are:

- 'Siely'. Put this name to any native english-speaker, and it'll sound (almost literally) like 'silly'.
- 'Rail'. Almost guaranteed to be said like a road, or the gun.

[CyberAkuma]

....I'm loving this game. The hi-res sprites look really NICE.

...But are we sure that it's Katze's "brother"? They don't even appear to be in the same species (he looks like a coyote, imo), much less he doesn't share Katze's sur-name of "Wildfang".

[Demon Dash]

Loving the fake screen shot! LOL...

Game actually looks pretty good, compared to the origional of course. Glad to see these guys actually got a chance to take it further. Not that the game didn't deserve it, but it's not often games like these get a propper arcade port. Good shit...

[Hayama Akito]

Haha, the "Katze Sioux brother" thing was just a joke.

[aqualung]

I've been halfway following the threads on this game, and if there's still time, and if the creator can be reached, I'd like to seriously propose some better, more natural anglicizing of the names (but still matching the original Japanese).

This -is- the 21st century, after all, and translations have gotten MUCH better than 'All your base'... I'd hate to see this game suffer from bad transliterations.

Edit:
From what I can see, the two BIGGEST offenders are:

- 'Siely'. Put this name to any native english-speaker, and it'll sound (almost literally) like 'silly'.
- 'Rail'. Almost guaranteed to be said like a road, or the gun.

I before e, except after c? haha Anyway I always thought of Siely as Si - lee, or See - lee.

Why cant his name be rail??? Seems like as good of name as any to me.

You missed my favorite. "Winner is standing side of grounded loser."

Personally? I like the engrish.


Haha, the "Katze Sioux brother" thing was just a joke.

hahaha nice =D

[frustratedsquirrel]

Well my only criticism concerning that shaman character is that his outfit is just a bit uninteresting. I'd understand due to it being a 2D fighter with sprites, but I know that Shok uses 3D models for the characters. Couldn't he have added some more details to that guy's suit? It's just a bit too plain.

Asides from that...yeah, this is looking great.

[rogueyoshi]

his look reminds me of aoko

[Xiii]

Never know, the sprite might be badass, the artwork rarely reflects the character sprites in Monster. If anything, Maya's dress still looks horrible to me lol. I just hope that the game doesn't get more race characters. Rail and Efleet, now Katze and Chieftain Haze.

Also to reply to Tiberious, some translations are better off left alone. Siely's name is unique and the name was discussed before as probably being Shirly rather, but Siely is an interesting name already. Rail is also not a mistranslation for Road, ever heard of a rail gun? Rail shoots beams of them from between his legs while he flips backwards in the air. The game is full of odd names such as Katze (Cats), Aleksandr (Alexander), Orju (Ore-Jew) and Delga (Dell-Gah). They really aren't any problems with them and I happen to like them all except Ryougen because I can't remember how to properly spell his name, keep flipping the o and u.

[wolfox_okamicha]

Yeah he has a more canine-ish appearance than a feline.

Oh, wasn't Shok part of a development team in Capcom before? Could this mean Capcom could "borrow" his characters a la Strider Hiryu? I wouldn't mind seeing Katze or Othello in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom. :P

[Xiii]

Blood lockdown is broken.

[frustratedsquirrel]

I don't think the characters from Monster are well-known enough for them to be taken in by Capcom for CvsT. But we might get Jon Talbain if we're lucky.

[wolfox_okamicha]

Nah. 1 char per game is the rule (maybe it's gonna be broken when it's TvC2).

Still... I wish it would happen. XD

[Demon Dash]

How are Monster and TvC related?

[Hatred Edge]

Wow the game looks amazing! Much, much better that what I expected.

[fallot]

Nah. 1 char per game is the rule (maybe it's gonna be broken when it's TvC2).


Rule is a strong word. Anyway they're obviously considering each sequel a seperate game so your Talbain is a remote possibility. Insert obligatory yiff in hell etc. here.


How are Monster and TvC related?

They're not.

[wolfox_okamicha]

I was just simply doing some random thinking - what with Shok being a former part of Capcom and all that stuff.

But yeah never mind. Please do continue with the Monster loving.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Well Talbain is known as being one of the most popular Darkstalkers characters within a western audiance...although in Japan they don't much care for him and he hasn't been in many games.

Some of that could also be Shok's doing, I don't know.

But he was a really noisy wolf.

[wolfox_okamicha]

Talbain or Othello?

And well, Talbain's one of the few of Capcom's kemono characters - I know there's Leo from Warzard and Zelkin from Plasma Sword. And then I recall seeing in a Capcom poster a red bird in an "airboard".

[frustratedsquirrel]

Talbain or Othello?

And well, Talbain's one of the few of Capcom's kemono characters - I know there's Leo from Warzard and Zelkin from Plasma Sword. And then I recall seeing in a Capcom poster a red bird in an "airboard".

Talbain. Othello's not that noisy, he just trash talks. Talbain is like "AWOOH! AWOOH! ROOOO! AROO, AROO WOOO GRR AROOO" for the whole battle if you're playing him properly. It's actually pretty humorous.

[wolfox_okamicha]

And when he's idle he also growls, lol

[frustratedsquirrel]

No new stuff for us yet? Come on, this is sad. D:

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

nope sorry, no new information until this weekend. So sorry for you

[wolfox_okamicha]

Hmm shaman kemono has a rather fit gown. I guess he has Othello/Katze's build. Then again usually kemonos are drawn like that.

I wonder how he fights. Does he have a healing super/shift? lol

[frustratedsquirrel]

Hmm shaman kemono has a rather fit gown. I guess he has Othello/Katze's build. Then again usually kemonos are drawn like that.

I wonder how he fights. Does he have a healing super/shift? lol

Yeah, I noticed that kemo artists like to make their male characters either muscular or overweight. It's not common to see a middle build like Rail and Orju.

But anyway, his title is something like "shaman of haze". I'm expecting smoke or ice related magic attacks, possibly ones which obscure the characters actions. Kindo of like that purple haired chick with the fire hydrant in Eternal Fighter Zero.

His design makes me wonder what kind of time frame this game's world is set in. Everyone else looks edo period, tribal or medieval by design, but his clothes are really very modern...could be a time traveller?

[CyberAkuma]

My guess is that, in the end, MONSTER is in the same boat as Vampire/Darkstalkers (which would make sense, considering this is ShoK we're talking about here).

In a world where so many different "styles" and "cultures" are represented, it's probably a thing that they all co-exist together in the same world, and the various levels of technology/magic/whatever just makes "sense" for whatever region of the world said character hails from.

All we need is a robot/cybernetic organism like Phobos/Huitzil, and maybe some sort of pirate and ninja involvement, and we would have all the feasible genres we'd need! :rofl:

[4649]

My guess is that, in the end, MONSTER is in the same boat as Vampire/Darkstalkers (which would make sense, considering this is ShoK we're talking about here).

In a world where so many different "styles" and "cultures" are represented, it's probably a thing that they all co-exist together in the same world, and the various levels of technology/magic/whatever just makes "sense" for whatever region of the world said character hails from.

All we need is a robot/cybernetic organism like Phobos/Huitzil, and maybe some sort of pirate and ninja involvement, and we would have all the feasible genres we'd need! :rofl:

Robo-Katze would fucking OWN :looney:

[wolfox_okamicha]

lol Robo-Katze

what about that tiger ninja dude? We don't have a tiger character after all (Ryougen strikes me more as a liger than a tiger).

[frustratedsquirrel]

Lol! Robo-Katze. Extending punches and lazer eyes.

I'm surprised nobody is discussing the red-haired elf character yet. He/she has a sword...does that mean his/her attacks will be unblockable like Aleks? So now we have two characters with unblockable attacks?

If I remember correctly, I don't think Delga and Rail's blade moves were blockable either. Perhaps each character will have more unblockable attacks. Like for Othello, perhaps he could have some deep claw/bite attacks that penetrate guard.

[rogueyoshi]

Like for Othello, perhaps he could have some deep claw/bite attacks that penetrate guard.
old tranq othello's bite

[wolfox_okamicha]

No one told me that the "borrowed" characters have wallpaper. :(

http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/monster/

[4649]

finally, I get what I most wanted out of this whole ordeal- a beastly Siely wallpaper. :3
THANK YOOOOOUUU

[Clear Sky]

Just want everyone to know that ALL of the characters for the PC version are fully completed! The system is completed too(finally because i was getting tired lol) All the work on monster will be finished on July 25(my birthday!) On the 26th, I suggest EVERYONE join the IRC room because i will have a suprise for the monster community!

Early happy bday, Aya. :party: :party:

BTW, what's the exact time this surprise is going to happen?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I dont have a time, it will happen when i am available to do it

[Hatred Edge]

Damn Aya! Got me pumped for the new Monster!!!

[frustratedsquirrel]

No one told me that the "borrowed" characters have wallpaper. :(

http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/monster/

Aleks and Delga don't have one.

*patiently awaits more artwork of the characters*

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

my suprise is going to end up being pushed back because of the fact that we are having some company issues. Just what i need on my Bday =\

[fallot]

Damn, and I had the times converted and everything.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I am going to do what i can. But now i cant promise anything. Sometimes i hate this project =\

[aqualung]

my suprise is going to end up being pushed back because of the fact that we are having some company issues. Just what i need on my Bday =\


yikes, I hope these issues aren't serious.


o and happy b day =D

[wolfox_okamicha]

Oops forgot to greet as well.

Happy birfday!

[Spooty Whiteboy]

my suprise is going to end up being pushed back because of the fact that we are having some company issues.

You make me a sad panda :'(

P.S. Happy B.day son.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Happy Bday Aya. We can wait.

*is even more frustrated than ever*

[30_60_90]

Happy birthday Aya, I hope everything gets sorted out to your liking.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Lol looks like Dragon Blast is trying to steal some of Monster's thunder.

That game looks awful in comparison though.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Thanks for the birthday wishes everyone. It seems as if everything with the company is getting squared away so keep an eye out for this thread during the week as i will have some major shit to post up. You wont be disappointed.

[aqualung]

Thanks for the birthday wishes everyone. It seems as if everything with the company is getting squared away so keep an eye out for this thread during the week as i will have some major shit to post up. You wont be disappointed.



/epic =D


cant wait!

[CyberAkuma]

Good stuff. And happy belated b-day, Aya.

[wolfox_okamicha]

Is there a way for me to reach the chatroom without using mIRC? =O

If not... well, just inform me of the new stuff XP

[fallot]

You can use a java client, like pjirc. Just google it.

[frustratedsquirrel]

So close to the release date and this is back on second page? Get up there!

How's the game's status coming along so far, Aya? Any more info you can drip-feed us for now?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Yeah but i cant release it on the forum, I can release this info on IRC though. I will be on IRC all day today so if you guys wanna join IRC for this, it would be great

[Hayama Akito]

I wasnt in my city in this week so i was afraid to lose the "surprise", i guess im lucky heh.

BTW, Happy B-Day Aya, somewhat late but oh well.

[wolfox_okamicha]

Midnight Bliss + Monster = ???

[30_60_90]

Yeah! I've been waiting anxiously, about what time you gonna surprise us Aya?

[Xiii]

Surprise has been released on IRC. Only way to find out what it is, is to get on.

[Darkstalker]

Surprise has been released on IRC. Only way to find out what it is, is to get on.

....but I suck with IRC.... :sad:

[wolfox_okamicha]

Chatzilla is your friend.

[[Real_bout]Yang]

Hey guys are going to release the surprise later? cause in the channel i get a "surprise coming again later" T_T i can't wait.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

lol whoops. Sorry, i got really busy over the weekend. I will try to be in IRC to explain everything again. My apologizes

[frustratedsquirrel]

Every time I log onto the IRC, nobody is there to explain the surprise to me!

It's FRUSTRATING!

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I was there monday... I didnt see you enter irc. Regardless. A little over a week and everyone will have the game. So just wait it out!

[CyberAkuma]

I was there monday... I didnt see you enter irc. Regardless. A little over a week and everyone will have the game. So just wait it out!

Yeah...bout that...my dudes who usually buy the games for me still haven't been able to get anything at the likes of Taranoa and other doujin shops.

It's a certainty that this game will be out next week, with no delays, correct?

[frustratedsquirrel]

9 more days uuuurrrrr!

[Hayama Akito]

By the way, u guys really need to give some tips about where i can buy Monster AC PC Version, i just buy things on Yahoo Japan and thats all...

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Yeah...bout that...my dudes who usually buy the games for me still haven't been able to get anything at the likes of Taranoa and other doujin shops.

It's a certainty that this game will be out next week, with no delays, correct?

now im not so certain....Something WILL be released on the 16th though.

[Killey]

I've been really out of the loop with Monster. I haven't played in ages and I'm not sure if there were any new updates since 1.0a? I think the last time I played was when they did the massive changes were Rail's modes would alter the form of his spirit and Orju had a broken LVL 3 super. Anything new since then? Yes, I'm aware that the game is getting an official release with redone sprites (are they sprites still? They've undergone a huge improvement from the screens I've seen) and 6 new characters. I don't suppose anyone has played around with that version. I'm interested if they were any new balancing tweaks made since then. Alexander was still crap from what I remember. I should get my ass back into the Monster IRC Channel sometime soon.

[frustratedsquirrel]

I've been really out of the loop with Monster. I haven't played in ages and I'm not sure if there were any new updates since 1.0a? I think the last time I played was when they did the massive changes were Rail's modes would alter the form of his spirit and Orju had a broken LVL 3 super. Anything new since then? Yes, I'm aware that the game is getting an official release with redone sprites (are they sprites still? They've undergone a huge improvement from the screens I've seen) and 6 new characters. I don't suppose anyone has played around with that version. I'm interested if they were any new balancing tweaks made since then. Alexander was still crap from what I remember. I should get my ass back into the Monster IRC Channel sometime soon.

Well from what we've been told, the system is getting a huge upgrade and many things will be changed. Most worryingly, Aleksandr has been deemed "awesome" by Aya. You can expect Othello to be nerfed and Seilie to be buffed. Maya will probably be completely revamped just like a less slutty version of Ivy in every Soul Calibur game. We get 6 new characters + finished Efleet. Two of these new characters have been revealed to be a coyote/wildcat modern American Indian style shaman and an elf knight with a sword. Katze is now much more of an aerial combo machine and seems faster from what I can tell. And Delga could 'possibly be top tier'.

Despite this, we've been promised a balanced cast. Hmmm...

Anyway, 4 more days! Hype boost! RAH RAH RAH.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

OK it is confirmed that the date is still the same! So everyone get ready

[eddymasta]

I hope theres a way to buy this online, and then d/l it. I dont feel like waiting for a physical copy to ship from japan to play it :(

[Xiii]

Only thing I hope for is for you to fix your connection AL! People would love to play you =p

[[Real_bout]Yang]

wow five days more and ancient clyne is out *_*
hey aya, you can't show more characters? just for the hype machine xD.

[eddymasta]

Only thing I hope for is for you to fix your connection AL! People would love to play you =p

haha, man i'm a noob in this game now :P I only knew how to play 1.0a or whatever. Still can't wait to pick this ish up when it comes out though :woot:

[Hayama Akito]

Well i cant deny that im a little impressed with the lack of Monster news in the media, mostly all fighting games have at least 99% of the official roster confirmed 2 weeks before the release and there isnt any info about the Arcade release anywhere, i hope that this doesnt hurt the hype, because im a little more interested in how Monster AC goes in the Japanese Arcade scene, the game deserves it badly.

[frustratedsquirrel]

7 more days, 7 more days!

I can't wait to see the full cast.

[wolfox_okamicha]

lol

I wish there's a lion.

[frustratedsquirrel]

At the moment, the two most anticipated games of 2008 for me are Monster and Blazblue.

I may never get to play Blazblue because I don't want a PS3. But I can at least play Katze in Monster and pretend that he's Taokaka.

[wolfox_okamicha]

What about Tatsunoko vs. Capcom?

[Space Lion]

I wish there's a lion.You and me both. :confused:

With the release being a week away, someone should post the (short) list of import stores that will sell the game (and any relevant ordering information). A general store like NCS or Play-Asia likely won't have it, so... yeah.

EDIT: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5272294&postcount=870 . Only two?

[Xiii]

You'll be given the information as it becomes available. A lot of people wish to purchase this game, but that information just isn't currently available yet. The unveiling of the game will be made during Comiket and more information on both the game and where to purchase it should be made known afterwards. It's probably a good idea to keep your eyes and ears open for Examu news as well as they might have something to do with distributing the game though I do believe that only the Arcade version is being focused on primarily and the PC version of the game is more of a bonus for us.

As always though, support is always great for the creator.

[freelander]

I am so hyped lol

But I still don`t know how to make my friend play furries ^^

[Xiii]

Don't mention it, this is a fighting game, not furry land for the fur fetish erotica ancient kingdom animal orgy battle royale. They either like it as a fighter or they can be ignorant and act like it's actually cool to boycott certain fighters over others =p

Main point? Try it out, no fighting game is 100% going to make everyone happy. The only question is will it make you happy?

P.S. If your friends won't play, get new friends. Like us or frustratedsquirrel, he will be your friend free of charge.

[wolfox_okamicha]

I thought it's gonna be available in Comiket?

And yeah, you don't have to be a furry to enjoy this. Just look around for open-minded people. ^_^

I'd play online too if only I know how to. >_<

[frustratedsquirrel]

People should remember that kemono art has been part of Japan's artistic history for a lot longer than we've had furries.

The two fandoms are pretty different. Monster isn't a furry fighting game. A furry fighting game would be full of winged foxes and overpowered dragons. And most everything would be wonton suggestive.

And the art style would probably suck.

Edit: Xiii wtf are you trying to pawn me out or something? T_T It's because I'm a furry, isn't it? We're overtly friendly to the point of irritance until drama starts?

sadly, that's generally true. 9_9

damn furries. *cuts self*

[fallot]

For me there would be no distinction between a furry game and a "kemono" game. I'm sure this applies to most people. Let's just stop talking about furries D:

[freelander]

ok squirrel, relax
just few more days >_>

was there any released pic or video about efreet?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

no there wasnt and their wont be until the game is released.

The game has reached the final homestretch I hope everyone is ready. I know I know i am. All week will be a busy one for me making sure everything is perfect with the game.

[freelander]

keep up the good work ^^
it!s only 6 dayssssssssssssss

[Killey]

What are you guys doing about pirating?
I'm sure it wouldn't take long for someone to crack the game and release a pirated copy via torrents.

[CyberAkuma]

Well, really, what CAN they do? Copy-protecting the disk some how would just give them a few more extra days, until some one finds out how to crack that protection too.

If people are going to pirate, they're going to do so. But everybody who really wants to support the game will also find means to do as such. That's pretty much all that can be said.

[Xiii]

To be honest, it's gonna happen. Why waste time fighting it when it really doesn't matter with a release like this. Real fans will support if they especially if they wish to continue receiving updates and support from the developers for the game.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

What are you guys doing about pirating?
I'm sure it wouldn't take long for someone to crack the game and release a pirated copy via torrents.

I am not an idiot, There isnt much of anything we can really do about people pirating the game. All we can do is hope that people like the product enough to support more projects in the future.

[wolfox_okamicha]

When did the talk of pirating begin? O.o

[Xiii]

Killey's random question on it. The fighting game genre is one where the fans really do just hurt themselves if they pirate because of all things, Fighting Games have the most replayability of any game. 20 or 50$, you're going to be playing a good fighter for a long time. Not willing to cash out? No more fighters. It's a genre where the people making the game are most likely hardcore fans of the genre and if fans don't care, developers won't care either.

[wolfox_okamicha]

Ah I see. >_<

In a random note, I introduced this game to a non-furry friend of mine and his reaction was...

"Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!"

But yeah, no bears and lions. XD

[CyberAkuma]

Killey's random question on it. The fighting game genre is one where the fans really do just hurt themselves if they pirate because of all things, Fighting Games have the most replayability of any game. 20 or 50$, you're going to be playing a good fighter for a long time. Not willing to cash out? No more fighters. It's a genre where the people making the game are most likely hardcore fans of the genre and if fans don't care, developers won't care either.

Very true.

However, on the other hand, I think there's still a lot to be said for being able to do more to "try before you buy" (by that, I mean renting). Now-a-days, that's hard to do, especially since like 70% of all FGs probably don't leave Japan, or if they do, they'll take a long time doing so. And money doesn't exactly grow on trees, ya know.

For all the various import/doujin games I've bought over the years, I've got a lot of gems, but I also have some games that I wished I could have been able to "rent" before I plopped down the full 50-70 bucks (including S&H) to buy it. And if it's like that for me, I'm sure there are plenty of others who would echo the same, even amongst FG gamers.

[Xiii]

50-70$ is just a stupid standard because you're taking into account Retail and Publishing first which is a huge chunk. Do you think ShoK and his team wouldn't be happy with you downloading and donating 20$ via paypal or something (which developers don't even get that much royalty to be honest) for every person that likes his game and wishes to continue playing it? If you cut out the middleman and everyone just pays 20$ that gets split among him and his team, that's pretty much as strong a support as any as long as this game doesn't turn into MB where you will have to pay 40-50$ for a box copy, he'll make less royalties, but he'll sell more games.

Anyways, no more piracy talk. Piracy is like one of the dumbest industry topics people count torrent downloads as profit loss when most people who download torrents probably won't buy the game anyways.

[Killey]

Well, I only asked because I wanted to know if they had some anti-piracy plans on the game disc. A simple yes we've got this in place or no we don't care because piracy is going to happen regardless would have been fine.

Putting that aside, is there any other information about balancing tweaks that have been made or should I just wait until the game comes out.

[Xiii]

Well 5 days left and we pretty much know how the game system will be, but we don't know how the what changes have been made to the characters so how they will play with it is all kind of up in the air.

Regarding balancing though, hopefully the defense options are still in place as the only character we know anything about (Katze) can do 50% off a hit if he has meter will be scary to deal with especially with unblockable wake-ups that are unavoidable if backdashes don't have invincibility. People will need to learn how to power break if it's there and that will be for the better anyways. Something to do while you're blocking yourself to death.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Well 5 days left and we pretty much know how the game system will be, but we don't know how the what changes have been made to the characters so how they will play with it is all kind of up in the air.

Regarding balancing though, hopefully the defense options are still in place as the only character we know anything about (Katze) can do 50% off a hit if he has meter will be scary to deal with especially with unblockable wake-ups that are unavoidable if backdashes don't have invincibility. People will need to learn how to power break if it's there and that will be for the better anyways. Something to do while you're blocking yourself to death.

Backdashes have inv so you can escape wake up unblocks. You CAN change the timing ont he unblocks though to catch the backdashes so you gotta be hella careful!

[frustratedsquirrel]

For me there would be no distinction between a furry game and a "kemono" game. I'm sure this applies to most people. Let's just stop talking about furries D:

Well now you know.

Anyway, I'm wondering if the team are going to consider the possibility of creating balance patches after the game's release? That kind of assurance is always a nice thing to have.

[Xiii]

It's always been like that so it should be safe to assume it'll continue.

[[Real_bout]Yang]

How are the unblocks? are them stoppable on the first frames with a well timed short attack? or you can get some use from the point system in there? the idea of the unblocks sounds good.

[Xiii]

Unblockables are stoppable and they take a bit of time to go off so you're not going to hit by it in the middle of a blockstring if you're paying attention. So far the only use it seems is on wake-up with Katze, but that could change with the other characters.

[Space Lion]

Delga wallpaper at the main site! http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/

(obligatory bump for hype)

[Xiii]

What's more hype than 2 days until some direct news?!

[frustratedsquirrel]

What about Aleksandr and that new sword user? I think it's safe to assume that most of their attacks will be unblock able if tradition persists, even the quicker ones.

And you know you're a big softy inside when you can get birds to land on your finger.

You're not fooling anyone, Delga. XD

(I can't wait to see the Othello wallpaper when it comes around)

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I hope everyone is ready because we have less than 1-2 days left to wait!

[fallot]

I got my poop sock on. Ready to go.

[Xiii]

Delga is a ninja priest of the catholic church. He likes little boys with super powers.

[Darkshine]

Excuse my ignorance, but, is Ancient Cline an arcade release, PC release, or both? I was under the impression initially that it would be like Akatsuki BLITZKAMPF, with the new version being an arcade release only, but, the latest posts in this topic seem to indicate the opposite. I'm confuzzled. :shake:

[fallot]

Its both.

[Xiii]

It's sort of both. The PC version will have the original cast updated to the same point as the Arcade with 1 of the 4 new characters with a slow release of the others over an unknown period of time. We can only hope that eventually the 2 releases will be the same at one point in time.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

It's sort of both. The PC version will have the original cast updated to the same point as the Arcade with 1 of the 4 new characters with a slow release of the others over an unknown period of time. We can only hope that eventually the 2 releases will be the same at one point in time.

Allow me to correct you. The game will be the same PC and arcade versions. Character selection is the only thing that will be different(as well with online play obviously) Right now, When the game is rereleased on saturday, we actually will only be releasing the original characters that were there because of time issues(we have to meet the saturday deadline) After that, the game will continue to be patched very soon afterward the 2 new characters for the PC version will be added. The Arcade version is looking like its going to be scheduled for the winter(which I have nothing to do with) But as of right now, Who cares about the arcade version? I know i dont, I just want people playing this again. So we are going to do what we came here to do, Make this game a hit! -^__^-

[CyberAkuma]

Still a thing where my "gophers" can't acquire the game yet...guess I'll have to try again next week, when the game should be up for sale in Doujin shops, right?

[Spooty Whiteboy]

Still a thing where my "gophers" can't acquire the game yet...guess I'll have to try again next week, when the game should be up for sale in Doujin shops, right?

Since it is getting released at comiket (or whatever the thing is called) this Saturday...I would say that you should wait until Sunday before you even start looking.

[Xiii]

*starts planning out practical combo videos for the japanese to x-copy for the arcade release*

[frustratedsquirrel]

Omgomgomg just 1 more day!!!!

Someone better make a whole bunch of character videos to satisfy me until I can get my mitts on the game!

[Xiii]

P.S. Join the IRC channel you dumb squirrel =p

[frustratedsquirrel]

I very occasionally join the IRC but nobody is ever there.

You're just being mean to me because I shed everywhere when I post, aren't you?

*I'll try log on to the IRC more then...*

[eddymasta]

Man, I really hope it comes out soon :/

[Spooty Whiteboy]

This should be out now, shouldn't it? I mean...there's light in the land of the rising sun.

[frustratedsquirrel]

I have tried to log onto that damn IRC but that damn IRC keeps giving me

Irritating
Rejected
Connection

problems!

If the game is out now does that mean Aya can spill us some spoilers? ASDfsdfsfd!

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Im waiting just as much as you guys, Thought Spootz is correct, the game should have been out by now. ShoK is a comiket at the moment and I will have to wait until he gets home inorder to get a hold of him. He was struggling up to this point to get the game out because he had alot of things to do but he was determined to get the game out today for comiket so thats what he spent alot of time on. Apparently he made his deadline which is why he is at Comiket at the moment. Im not sure what time comiket ends today but when i know something ill post right away. As for the above, If for some random ass reason the game IS NOT released today, I give everyone as much information about the new game as I can. Ill even probably upload my versions of the game so people can still play.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Awesome. i guess all we have to do now is wait with bated breath.

*The IRC hates me.*

[fallot]

frustratedsquirrel download and install mIRC. Start it up and type /server irc.mizuumi.net in the server window then /j 8105monster to join the channel.

[wolfox_okamicha]

Or if you're using FireFox (in which you SHOULD be anyway) download Chatzilla.

[ZoDDto]

Works well in Opera too.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Well now that I finally got onto the IRC, I can say that I'm not going to be seen on there very often after this.

much joke. <3

[Rhio2k]

This should be out now, shouldn't it? I mean...there's light in the land of the rising sun.

Where? I can't see shit for all the smog...

[Clear Sky]

Update??

[Xiii]

The ball has been dropped.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Even though i shouldnt do this....

I am going to apologize for ShoK's actions. I know I have been working with him for nearly 2 years now on improving Monster and we should have had this update out by now. Though i have absolutely nothing to do with his actions as far as releasing the game is concerned, I feel i owe everyone an apology on his behalf because of his horrible timing as per usual. I am supposed to go to japan on wed of this coming week but i cant do much until I get there. When i get home i will give everyone my version of the game as consolation for what he has done. Once again, I am apologizing on his behalf.

[Random123456789]

That sucks. So that means I can get it as well? Awesome!

[Hayama Akito]

Well, shit happens, im still waiting.

[wolfox_okamicha]

Why, what happened? :O

[frustratedsquirrel]

Why, what happened? :O

Shok botched up the release. Nobody has the game just yet. We're not even sure if he took the right copy to Comiket.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

said that the wait would be worth it to the players
<AyaImmortal> apperently he decided to add ONE of the new characters at the last minute
<AyaImmortal> so... he wants me to wait beforei do anything
<AyaImmortal> I told him i will give him 3 days
<AyaImmortal> that is enough time for me to add netplay to my version AND enough time for him to finish what he needs to finish
<AyaImmortal> No i wasnt avoiding anything, and turbo is right. I will say what i need to say regardless. I dont avoid people, i do have my own life.
<AyaImmortal> I do these things because they are within my power to do
<AyaImmortal> it isnt an obligation
<AyaImmortal> so dont make it more than that

This is what I typed in IRC incase no one sees it there.

[Turbovec]

Good shit Aya :tup:

[Hatred Edge]

That's good news. The delay was for a good reason. More MONSTER!

[frustratedsquirrel]

I'm putting my bets on the elf character.

[G@B0]

Uff. At least we will have one new character. Can't... wait... much ...longer...

[Killey]

I appreciate the fact that you are doing something that you don't have to do but it allows us who don't have access to getting the game the ability to play it.

[frustratedsquirrel]

So, it's been 3 days I think. Any news?

[Xiii]

Message from Aya:


Do me a favor and tell everyone I am sorry. I'm in jappan atm and will be back wed

[Turbovec]

I was talking with Aya today and he gave me some encouraging information:

- He is going to be meeting with ShoK today (primarily to discuss the future of Monster)
- Will have new versions of game for sale when he gets back from Japland. :tup:

So remain calm, you'll all be getting your game soon. Just be supportive and buy the damn thing, it's not like it costs an arm and leg.

[Clear Sky]

^Only problem is where. Hopefully there's some store online where you don't need a Japanese CC to buy the game. I never bought shit online specifically from there, so maybe someone can clarify this to me.

[Xiii]

Convince Aya to turn into a cyber merchant and carry loads of Monster AC cds in his flower cart. 1 Gil per game.

[Clear Sky]

^lol.

Reminds me of some guy who went to Japan and bought actually copies of BBB, who in turn, got paid back for it by those who wanted the game, and had shipped it to them. I feel sorry for every single one of them.

New versions of the game? You mean there's a premium package or some sort? Give the details, details!

[Xiii]

I believe he means Monster AC itself instead of the original that was sold at Comiket, embarassingly.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

My apologies for being away for so long, As it was already known, I was away for the last week. Ill update with all the new information later but for right now the biggest news i have is that i am going to be moving to akihabara in january!

[frustratedsquirrel]

Well information is better than nothing at the moment.

I've been dying for a bit of solid information for ages now, even if we haven't been able to play the game.

Just want to know if such n' such is still good, etc.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

The reason why everything has been falling apart as far as monsters release is because JAMMA has been requesting ShoK to do ALOT of stuff for them. Shok has also picked up another game project as well as trying to finish what he started with monster. Things for him never seize to die down. He stated and i quote that he would have the game up by the end of the month(which is only 3 days away) upon my meeting/discussion with him, Monster is 99% completed and the system is finished(thats my doing) He does apologize for the long wait especially because its been nearly a year since the last update and this update was supposed to be released sometime ago. The reason the dates keep changing on monster is because of the fact that he has been so swamped with work and other projects(personal business is none of you guy's business)

This is what I can tell you first hand.

1. Monster is very much near completion. The PC version that is. The arcade version has been pushed back because he decided to add alot more stuff to the game. So I wouldnt expect that until november of this year or feb of next year.

2. The last remaining thing to complete on monster is the character animations(they are done they all havent been added yet) They are very close to completion now. And should be with in the next few days

3. Shok is really busting his ass to do everything as fast as he can. I understand that he keeps pushing back dates but if the work he was doing wasnt true, then iw ouldnt back him 100% on what he does. He does have alot on his plate and has been getting offers out the ass to do mainstream projects(Even another capcom project possibly) So yes, things are a big screwy at the moment. Though, in spite of that, he should really learn to work on his communication skills =\

These are the things I can tell you first hand because I saw them for myself. We both are doing our best to make sure everything is just fine.

[Turbovec]

Well information is better than nothing at the moment.

I've been dying for a bit of solid information for ages now, even if we haven't been able to play the game.

Just want to know if such n' such is still good, etc.

We won't know who is good and who isn't until we actually get our hands on the game. Tests and programmers can only do so much and what they may see as good, could in the long run turn out be garbage due to something the players discover. We will get the game eventually. Calm down, your impatience is annoying and unnecessary. :tdown:

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

The one thing you need to understand is when it comes to shok. NOTHING IS promised to you at the time it is supposed to be. Believe me.... everyone who played monster before this point knows this. As stated, be patient.... If there is anything we dont need now is people jumping down our throats. It wont make the project come any faster. Trust me....

[CyberAkuma]

Fair enough.

Even so, a kind suggestion.

For the sake of the future, why not just cop the "Blizzard ethic", as far as Monster is concerned?

In other words, just tell us the new update/patch/whatever will come down the pipeline "when it's done", and at least then, deadlines and any other time-related constraints are off the table. You don't list a milestone to be reached, we won't be left expecting one until "it's done".

I would rather just have a date sprung on us by surprise (the game could be announced to come out in a day or two before it's released, as far as I care), rather than have the hype built up over the course of some weeks/months...only to be left deflated because a date can't/won't be met.

I understand that ShoK can be busy. But as some one who wanted to play this game, as well as is concerned for its overall viability/relevance, I don't think I'm alone in stating that it was quite a let down to not see M:AC released, as it was promised.

So, how about it? Again, the game can end up taking as long as it may need to, but at least the fans' hearts won't be played with but so much. :rofl:

[Turbovec]

I understand that ShoK can be busy. But as some one who wanted to play this game, as well as is concerned for its overall viability/relevance, I don't think I'm alone in stating that it was quite a let down to not see M:AC released, as it was promised.

So, how about it? Again, the game can end up taking as long as it may need to, but at least the fans' hearts won't be played with but so much. :rofl:

All I hear when I read this post is :crybaby::crybaby::crybaby: and to me that is :lame::lame::lame:. If you were truly understanding, then you'd be happy you're at least getting the game. Do you have any idea what all goes into making a game, and not just a doujin, but a full blown ARCADE GAME. Shit gets pushed back, live with it, and grow up, or don't even call yourself a fan. Sure, it's a bummer that it didn't come out when it was supposed to, but you're still getting the game and OMG, shit is going to be added and it may perhaps be even better. Seriously, if the companies want to toy with you, they will and a simple post like your's will do NOTHING to change it. :rolleyes:

[CyberAkuma]

All I hear when I read this post is :crybaby::crybaby::crybaby: and to me that is :lame::lame::lame:. If you were truly understanding, then you'd be happy you're at least getting the game. Do you have any idea what all goes into making a game, and not just a doujin, but a full blown ARCADE GAME. Shit gets pushed back, live with it, and grow up, or don't even call yourself a fan.

Wow. And what a way to portray yourself as douche bag, pal...

Let me put to you this way. A game can try and set itself up to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but it won't mean a THING, if it doesn't have the fans to support it (and more importantly, buy it). What good is any game, without the people to play it, and just do more to keep portraying interest in it? Plenty of games that had the potential for greatness, later fell apart because of things like this.

Just because I'm being a bit more of a cynic, doesn't make me any less of a fan. Hell, the fact that I'm doing so means I really CARE about the game. If I didn't, chances are, I probably would have moved on by now, and stopped being concerned with this project. I have plenty of other things that I could do with my free time, but when it comes to this, I CHOOSE to keep caring. Because I like this game, and want the best for it, but things about it as of late have been concerning me, all issues that are quite valid, I assure you. And I can also assure you that I'm certainly not the only one that thinks as such.

So don't even try to hand me that tripe of me being a "cry-baby", man. That's completely unwarranted, and uncalled for.

[frustratedsquirrel]

The reason why everything has been falling apart as far as monsters release is because JAMMA has been requesting ShoK to do ALOT of stuff for them. Shok has also picked up another game project as well as trying to finish what he started with monster. Things for him never seize to die down. He stated and i quote that he would have the game up by the end of the month(which is only 3 days away) upon my meeting/discussion with him, Monster is 99% completed and the system is finished(thats my doing) He does apologize for the long wait especially because its been nearly a year since the last update and this update was supposed to be released sometime ago. The reason the dates keep changing on monster is because of the fact that he has been so swamped with work and other projects(personal business is none of you guy's business)

This is what I can tell you first hand.

1. Monster is very much near completion. The PC version that is. The arcade version has been pushed back because he decided to add alot more stuff to the game. So I wouldnt expect that until november of this year or feb of next year.

2. The last remaining thing to complete on monster is the character animations(they are done they all havent been added yet) They are very close to completion now. And should be with in the next few days

3. Shok is really busting his ass to do everything as fast as he can. I understand that he keeps pushing back dates but if the work he was doing wasnt true, then iw ouldnt back him 100% on what he does. He does have alot on his plate and has been getting offers out the ass to do mainstream projects(Even another capcom project possibly) So yes, things are a big screwy at the moment. Though, in spite of that, he should really learn to work on his communication skills =\

These are the things I can tell you first hand because I saw them for myself. We both are doing our best to make sure everything is just fine.

Well this is good enough for me.

I find it ironic that now it's the Arcade version that's going to be getting more stuff.

Also, I'm very pleased to hear about Shok getting more work. That means his artwork will be cropping up in other games...

And...if Capcom is asking for him again does that mean that...we may be getting a possible future Darkstalkers game with Talbain making an appearance?

Ooooh, so exciting.

I only wish that Shok would allow us to get some glimpses of the new characters to get the hype up. Or release some tech demo vids. With the game being close to release on PCs, we're all hungry for information about the new game. Even blacked out character sillouhettes like was originally done for Efleet would be great.

I remember how much fun it was trying to figure out who the blacked-out characters in Blazblue where.

"Oh, is that going to be a midget penguin in a top hat?"

"Scantly clad goth girl is the one on the right."

and so on, so forth.

[Xiii]

It just really sucks for the people that weren't in the original Monster community because we've all been conditioned to believe basically nothing anymore and to just be surprised by a patch a day before it's released (and then a hotfix a couple hours later for some broken shit we didn't even get to find yet while we find other game breaking bugs lol). Though it's understandable for fans to be upset, it doesn't matter if you're making a doujin game or an arcade/console game (actually, it matters more since you're getting paid to work on behalf of a company rather than just for yourself), milestones can be a project's life line. If you can't reach your milestone, your project might die before it gets finished because you can't sink the work needed to finish it.

Anyways though, it's not surprising that the game is being delayed by ShoK, he loves to mess with how the game works as proven by everything pre-1.11b as it looked to be a strong progression and then 1.11b hits and basically the game radically changed from character balance changes, gravity affecting combos and tons of hitbox changes across the board.

Game got Maya'd.

Anyways, just hang on tight. At this point hopefully you're still interested in the game when it hits, as for me, I'm not sure anymore. I'll hang around the community for awhile longer, but there are better things to do with your time than just waiting and drooling for this game right now.

[Clear Sky]

Hey Aya, whenever this game is done, how long do you think it will take before it hits the shelves? Got estimated dates?

[ZoDDto]

It's done, when it's done.
Live with it.

[Clear Sky]

It's done, when it's done.
Live with it.

I ain't question when it's done. :looney:

[Hayama Akito]

Official Arcade site open (http://www.examu.co.jp/monster_ac/), mostly nothing to see, at least if you dont know the original art... still good news.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Hey Aya, whenever this game is done, how long do you think it will take before it hits the shelves? Got estimated dates?

I wish i did, Shok Cant hold a date to save his life and quite frankly its one of the many reasons i dont wanna work with him anymore. My next project is Dragonblast working with Urakata who actually ironically is shok's business rival(go figure) So imagine the japanese drama im going to be going through with i move to japan lol.

But, I really dont know anymore. When i get more information i will be sure to give it to everyone. I cant apologize for his mistakes anymore because this is insane and absolutely ridiculous. :rolleyes:

[Hayama Akito]

Sorry about this off-topic question Aya but what is that "Dragonblast" thing? dont tell me that is a new fighting game because 2008 is about to fucking explode.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

ok i wont tell you that

[CyberAkuma]

ok i wont tell you that

XD

Any way, if you're involved, this game must be worthy of future interest. I'll keep an eye out...

[polarity]

Sorry about this off-topic question Aya but what is that "Dragonblast" thing? dont tell me that is a new fighting game because 2008 is about to fucking explode.

ahahahahah you people are such fucking faggots

http://urakata.org/prof4.jpg
http://urakata.org/prof5.jpg
http://www.indiegames.com/blog/images/timw/dragonbl2a.jpg
http://f.hatena.ne.jp/images/fotolife/u/urakata5/20071212/20071212194015.jpg

HELL YES, 2008 STOP BEASTING.

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

ahahahahah you people are such fucking faggots

i liked monster. =( back before they nerfed everyone EXCEPT the two most broken characters, that is. the point system was a genuinely interesting idea

but yeah fuck whatever that game is

[Hayama Akito]

ahahahahah you people are such fucking faggots

http://urakata.org/prof4.jpg
http://urakata.org/prof5.jpg
http://www.indiegames.com/blog/images/timw/dragonbl2a.jpg
http://f.hatena.ne.jp/images/fotolife/u/urakata5/20071212/20071212194015.jpg

HELL YES, 2008 STOP BEASTING.

Hi Polarity, i can see you back with all your classic style as usual.

But oh well, good luck with this new project Aya, i will keep at eye on it because some of us still try the games first before throwing free shit.

[MiLky]

i liked monster. =( back before they nerfed everyone EXCEPT the two most broken characters, that is. the point system was a genuinely interesting idea

but yeah fuck whatever that game is

Yeah Monster was pretty fun, hoping the new version will still be good.

Also, yeah that other game looks terrible.

[wolfox_okamicha]

Wow... That Dragonblast game... I thought it was really a game that simply feeds on the /bara/ fetish. I saw it once in a bara site, thinking that it was a failed project.

[polarity]

Hi Polarity, i can see you back with all your classic style as usual.

But oh well, good luck with this new project Aya, i will keep at eye on it because some of us still try the games first before throwing free shit.

youre so open minded, i myself dont feel the need to try a game with pantiless dog girl characters to dismiss it as garbage

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

youre so open minded, i myself dont feel the need to try a game with pantiless dog girl characters to dismiss it as garbage

Polarity: Get this shit out of my thread. Thank you....

The goal with dragonblast is to make it much much better which is what i am going to do. Right now the game sucks terribly but with a push in the right direction, it will be a very nice game

People seem to forget that i was also apart of 1.0d 1.01 and 1.11b(though this was the worst) When i say I did my best with monsters new system. Best believe it lol

[frustratedsquirrel]

Good grief Dragonblast's character design is awful...

That is shameful. Game is too furry even for me.

[wolfox_okamicha]

^It's more bara than kemono, really (hence it has orcs and stuff). But yeah, hopefully Aya can make it into a better game.

[Clear Sky]

*looks at polarity's links*

Hopefully Aya....you'll start helping them by suggesting better character designs. :rofl:

[frustratedsquirrel]

Of course Aya wouldn't do that. He only cares about hitboxes and gameplay.

Super circle and square fighter X will be a sure fire hit with the competitive fighting community I think.

(but in all seriousness, SOMEBODY needs to tell them to change the character designs. Ninja wolf is good, but the tiger character and dog-girl...ewno.)

[KarnovKarnov]

Of course Aya wouldn't do that. He only cares about hitboxes and gameplay.

Super circle and square fighter X will be a sure fire hit with the competitive fighting community I think.


Beware of what you ask for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh5cOHAazKY

I agree that having solid gameplay is wonderful, and that if you have to keep reminding yourself to ignore how awful the game looks, the experience is diminished. Being the most gorgeous thing on the block makes a difference, but being painfully fugly makes a difference, too.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Of course Aya wouldn't do that. He only cares about hitboxes and gameplay.

Super circle and square fighter X will be a sure fire hit with the competitive fighting community I think.

(but in all seriousness, SOMEBODY needs to tell them to change the character designs. Ninja wolf is good, but the tiger character and dog-girl...ewno.)

That isnt completely true... I care about designs Just alot less then actual gameplay....

Beware of what you ask for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh5cOHAazKY

I agree that having solid gameplay is wonderful, and that if you have to keep reminding yourself to ignore how awful the game looks, the experience is diminished. Being the most gorgeous thing on the block makes a difference, but being painfully fugly makes a difference, too.

LOL @ that video :pray: