Japanese Players: 1 game, 1 character

[Branh0913]

Have you ever noticed that Japanese players seem to only play one game and use only one character. It seems that stateside majority of the players use multiple characters and play multiple games. The only Japanese players I can think of who play several games are



Daigo - 1 character in 3s, 1 character in SFA3, CVS2, 1 character GGXX
Tokido - 1 character for every game he plays
Ohnuki - multiple games, but always uses Chun-Li


Then there is Kaqn the only Japanese player I know of who uses multiple characters.


It appears that Japanese players for the most part only play one game and use one character. You kind of wonder if they ever experimented with other characters, or even play other games. Big offenders are

Kuroda
Sharon
Hayao
Kokujin
MOV
Ten
Shonen
Owigawa - though I heart he briefly switched to Ky in Slash


And too many other examples to name. Does anyone know what is up with that? Do they just not have the time to play other games?

[COUM]

uhh kuroda is well known for being good with practically every character in 3s lol

[Overworld]

All of them play other characters casually, just in tournaments they have their character they play. Many tournaments don't allow character switching so it's counter intuitive to have more than one main.

Also there is the thought that you really dilute your chances of mastering a character if you switch to avoid bad matchups. So you learn through perseverance with a single character.

[metalmike31216]

If I remember correctly Daigo used Akuma and Ryu in Alpha 3

[BRPXQZME]

A lot of them play multiple games. It’s just that only a few of them are mutants who can be damn good at more than one.

[Akuma4Real]

I've seen Daigo use various characters in the Street Fighter and Vampire Savior series. I usually try and stick to one character. Lately, I decided to experiment and use random select.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

If I remember correctly Daigo used Akuma and Ryu in Alpha 3


He used Akuma then Ryu.

[The Chopper]

I mean really that's how it's supposed to be.

Tired of seeing people picking like 10 "main's" in a game before it even comes out, and listing them in their sig.

[Branh0913]

Daigo switched to Ryu out of respect to Alex Valle, at least that is what I heard. After the controversy concerning the U.S Champ vs. Japanese Champ in A3 back in 1998 I believe.



It would be nice to see Hayao play Zangief or Potemkin. I just wondered if guy like that play a lot of other games. I didn't know Kuroda was good with everyone. Anyone have any footage of him rocking, let's say, Yang?

[Branh0913]

I mean really that's how it's supposed to be.

Tired of seeing people picking like 10 "main's" in a game before it even comes out, and listing them in their sig.

I'm pretty much an exclusive Baiken player in GGXX, and she has been my main since #Reload.

[Spinning Beat]

I've seen Daigo using O-Sagat and Zangief in ST on youtube.

I have one main in 3s, and a few sub characters I know how to play but dont play as well as my main.

[tataki]

Japanese Players: 1 game, 1 character

Tokido: Every game, The most braindead character

[Emil]

And too many other examples to name. Does anyone know what is up with that? Do they just not have the time to play other games?

Better to be really good at one game than be average at a bunch of them. Same goes with characters...

That said, those top players can use everyone. Check out a video on youtube about a Ryu vs. Dudley 3S tournament held in japan. Basically the only characters allowed were Ryu and Dudley. The tournament had many top players, including RX, Namijin, KO, etc. And guess what, pretty much everyone there was a beast with Dudley even though they supposedly don't use him (RX vs. KO was probably the best fight there, as well as Namijin vs. KO).

Most Japanese players don't play a bunch of characters because they want to learn/perfect everything there is about one specific character. It's way harder to do this with many characters.

Anyway what I haven't seen much of is players being beastly in multiple games that have very different styles...Daigo is probably the best example here...SF2, SF3, VS, GG, CvS2. Ruu is also very good at 3S(uses Ryu) and is a beast in GG(Bridget) and MB(Ren). The fact that other players outside of Japan don't stick to just one character, is one of the reasons why they get beat so bad by the japanese.

[PozerWolf]

1 game = BS, they play other games.
1 character = BS, they play other character... they just suck with them.

In the end, if your in a tournament, your going to pick the character you trust the most that you can win with. In the end, its normally that "one" character.

[Saotome Kaneda]

Almost every Japanese player I've ran into has a handful of chars they dabble with but one they will use for tourneys.

They also would love to have double elim and char changing in tourneys.

[pherai]

Tired of seeing people picking like 10 "main's" in a game before it even comes out, and listing them in their sig.

Here here. Too many people on SRK list 10 characters as their main in 7 different games, none of which they play competently.

[COUM]

The fact that other players outside of Japan don't stick to just one character, is one of the reasons why they get beat so bad by the japanese.

except the japanese do play multiple characters so this is obviously wrong

[Emil]

1 game = BS, they play other games.
1 character = BS, they play other character... they just suck with them.

This is not true. They are generally fairly good with all characters, you just rarely ever see them bother to use them.

except the japanese do play multiple characters so this is obviously wrong

They know how to play everyone reasonably well, but they almost never play anyone but their main. Perhaps my definition of "playing a character" is different than the one being suggested by you. For example in kof2k2, my team is Kim, Whip, Athena. I play these characters. Sometimes I random select or I will replace Whip with Clark or Kusanagi. I don't play those characters though.

[Spinning Beat]

Tokido: Every game, The most braindead character

Pretty much, Tokido is very good though. He used to use Urien whos far from braindead. Then he realized Chun would take him places.

[BaSiK_TeKniK]

When you focus on one character your skills increase substantially.

[PozerWolf]

This is not true. They are generally fairly good with all characters, you just rarely ever see them bother to use them.
No, it is true.
But who you are to talk? All you do is watch youtube vids all day and judge the community based off that while nut hugging the japs.

I, on the other hand, actually have experince and seen it for myself (as well as most of the people who post here).

So fuck off.

[woof]

are you japanese emil

[The Chopper]

I think it just comes down to playing the game alot.

I mean inputs in 3rd strike aren't that hard, so if you've fought hundreds of dudley's and have picked up working strategies, it's probably not too much to pick him up and be decent with them.

I mean these guys do play the game enough.

[KayinNasaki]

Several Japanese players have actually counter picked at EVO in ST. Notably Daigo (between Ryu and Boxer) and I recall hearing that even Gian(Or maybe some other Dhalsim) actually swtiched to Blanka(?!?) to counter Vega(D:)

But either way it's important to dabble in as many characters as you can to better understand the game and the japanese realize this. They just seldom build these characters up that far, as theres little point in the japanese tournament structure.

[BaSiK_TeKniK]

Guilty Gear and tekken are good examples

[Emil]

No, it is true.
But who you are to talk? All you do is watch youtube vids all day and judge the community based off that while nut hugging the japs.

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You've already lost the argument by bringing up this point which has nothing to do with the discussion. Also it's irrelevant if you have experience or not, this is about whether they really do use only one character and whether they suck with the ones they don't use. This can be seen from experience or video watching.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

Fuck japan.

[Sabin]

Have you ever noticed that Japanese players seem to only play one game and use only one character. It seems that stateside majority of the players use multiple characters and play multiple games.


this is because most of the time

1) you can actually focus on YOUR game of choice, unlike the usa, because we just dont have the scene. For example, I play Arcana Heart fairly seriously, but beacuse I'm in america, im not going to be able to find comp for this game all the time acuse it isnt THAT popular. In Japan? Not really a problem. Same thing goes for Melty/(insert random game here that has a small western presence)

2) because of the reason i stated above, since theres actually a scene to play in, and theres lots of dedicated players, the comp can generally be so fierce in yoru game of choice that you have to devote all your time to 1 fighter. To give you another example, I'm definetely a multi-game player, and I was planning to play capcom/snk/tekken in japan a bunch, but seeing as i mainly went there last year for arcana, and the comp is so good, the only way i was going to be able to keep up was if i devoted all my time an denergy to that one game.

3) That would also explain the resson why Japanese stick to 1 game/1 character (can sometimes be character love, also due to the fact that they have single elim tourneys where you have to stick with the same char all the way through. Also, comp is so beast in the major cities that it's really hard to experiment without getting owned up/losing a shitton of money in the process.)

[DS]

Almost every Japanese player I've ran into has a handful of chars they dabble with but one they will use for tourneys.

They also would love to have double elim and char changing in tourneys.

What this guy said and what Sabin said. And yes, single game single elim tournies will do that to you. And yeah, they have huge scenes for each game, so you usually have to stick with one char most of the time for tourney time.

Oh, and Tokido doesn't learn braindead chars for the most part. He just plays whomever is top tier. I like his philosophy.

[PozerWolf]

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You've already lost the argument by bringing up this point which has nothing to do with the discussion. Also it's irrelevant if you have experience or not, this is about whether they really do use only one character and whether they suck with the ones they don't use. This can be seen from experience or video watching.
What the hell? Why do you even post?
No one likes you 'cause your just a damn loser. There was no actual points, not to mention what you stated was just complete BS. Whatever, you like to think your right when we all know you don't know shit.

And no, its not "irrelevant" if you have experience or not. Watching vids and to actually play them are 2 diferent things. If you believe otherwise then your a fuckin' idiot.

Forget it, I'll just do what everyone else has to do.
First time I have to put someone on my ignore list on... well... anything.


EDIT:
This message is hidden because Emil is on your ignore list.

Oh, this is interesting.
I guess I can just assume that when I see a post from Emil I know for a fact that it will be completely retarded rather than seeing a small wall of text.
This works.

EDITx2: Added some more stuff, lol ;o

[Adam Warlock]

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You've already lost the argument by bringing up this point which has nothing to do with the discussion. Also it's irrelevant if you have experience or not, this is about whether they really do use only one character and whether they suck with the ones they don't use. This can be seen from experience or video watching.

I think having your colon around your head is the only thing that keeps it from exploding from sheer stupidity.

[shatterstar]

^BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

AW for Vice President.

[Einlanzer]

Fuck japan.

im still trying to.

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

hayao plays kira in arcana, or at least used to at one point

the ruu who plays 3s is a different guy from the gg/mb ruu (one uses katakana, the other has hiragana)


overall though, i am sure most elite players can use multiple characters well. even the better american players do. one of the most effective ways to figure out a difficult matchup is to learn that character yourself. i know someone who put hours into practicing every single character in accent core for this reason.

[Dale(AAA)]

overall though, i am sure most elite players can use multiple characters well. even the better american players do. one of the most effective ways to figure out a difficult matchup is to learn that character yourself. i know someone who put hours into practicing every single character in accent core for this reason.

This always seems to work well. I remember Ryo was such a bitch for me to beat in kOF's until I started playing him, now he's a joke.

[MAGUS1234]

I bet USA players can beat up Japanese players

[kmasera]

I bet USA players can beat up Japanese players

SBO 2009 believe it

[Dandy J]

Have you ever noticed that Japanese players seem to only play one game and use only one character. It seems that stateside majority of the players use multiple characters and play multiple games. The only Japanese players I can think of who play several games are

Daigo - 1 character in 3s, 1 character in SFA3, CVS2, 1 character GGXX
Tokido - 1 character for every game he plays
both of them have switched around characters at one time or another

[Keits]

Tokido: Every game, The most braindead character

I only spent time with Tokido while playing Samurai Showdown Tenka, but he played several of the best characters, and two of his choices are anything but braindead. (Mina and Sogetsu are not as easy to play as Kazuki and Amakusa)

[Captain Ryu]

I'm kinda like that. If I'm playing a game I play the character I know best 95% of the time. I usually only fuck around with other characters once in a while, usually when the other guy is picking other characters also and I don't have to wait if I lose. Otherwise, even in casuals I like to stick with the guy I know best and I want other players to do the same for me.

[orochizoolander]

Fuck japan.

YES! let the hate fester inside you!


I read somewhere on srk a while back how jap players stick with one character even when they lose with them out of honor or some shit like that (the post I read only applied to ST.)

[rtl]

No, it is true.
But who you are to talk? All you do is watch youtube vids all day and judge the community based off that while nut hugging the japs.

I, on the other hand, actually have experince and seen it for myself (as well as most of the people who post here).

So fuck off.
lol wtf at the random flame.

i don't know where you got the impression that they play other characters and "suck" with them, as a general statement. and what's your "experience" that you're touting so much?

anyways, what Emil originally said IS true: some japanese players have at least one secondary character, and are decent / not bad with them.
imho (not what Emil said), they are better with their secondary (/secondaries), than most "americans"/non-japanese are with their main character.

[MUSOLINI]

yeah man only people in the US know how to play multiple characters, yeah man. you rule man, as a stupid ass motherfucker.

[Saotome Kaneda]

yeah, this thread is going nowhere fast

point proven, topic closed