Focus Attack vs. Saving Attack

[omni]

I don't care which...but as a community let's just pick one and stick with it.

I fucking hate capcom for doing this. And I'm getting really tired of seeing FA and SA in the same sentence.

I'll let everyone sort it out - but lets have a winner and be done with it.

Derek Daniels
http://lowfierce.blogspot.com

[Henaki]

call it saving so theres no confusion between japanese players/notation

id argue for focus but honestly the only time its been cool to use a change like this was the whole guarding/blocking/parrying shit

[Cynistar]

^^agreed. end of discussion.

[YellowS4]

I'm sticking with SA.

[FMJaguar]

It's not a debate, whatever capcom puts in the US version is the winner. If the move is called "Focus Attack" in the us version, then thats the standard.

The boss names are confusing because they mean one character in the US, and another in Japan. "Saving Attack" has no meaning other than "The japanese version of what we will call a Focus Attack".

[Demon Dash]

Focus attack sounds better to me, actually makes sense as they're kind of "focusing" the attack, where as they're not really saving anything...

[The Mullah]

focus attack is what it is for us so thats what i'll use.

whats to get confused over anyway, you know its the same thing.

[XTG]

+1 for Focus

[goodm0urning]

I live in the United States. I'm going to call it a Focus Attack (FA).

[Henaki]

It's not a debate, whatever capcom puts in the US version is the winner. If the move is called "Focus Attack" in the us version, then thats the standard.

The boss names are confusing because they mean one character in the US, and another in Japan. "Saving Attack" has no meaning other than "The japanese version of what we will call a Focus Attack".

gouki

[Dwin]

Seriously it doesnt really matter which one you use..

[Akutabi Gamma]

Can I call them CD Attacks or...Surprise Blow (like in SFEX3)?

[fallot]

Call it Focus, its going to be annoying when people start using "SA3" for a level 3 Focus Attack.

[CaliLifeStyle]

Call it Focus, its going to be annoying when people start using "SA3" for a level 3 Focus Attack.

Agreed. The SA abbreviation is already taken.

[Cynistar]

^^ does SF4 use super arts? i thought it just used supers and ultras, cus then SA wouldnt be taken already, right?

[KayinNasaki]

Huh, I thought they were called Saving Strikes in Japan. I don't think it matters anyways. I think we'll see both terms used. As long as we know what the other person is talking about, there is no issue, much unlike the four boss issue. We don't need a standard and even if one was 'set', I doubt it'd be followed.

[PBalla]

+1 for Focus

agree, focus sounds more on the target

[Jigsaw]

KayinNasaki: They're called "Saving Attack".

Sure, it may sound a little goofy, but at this point I'm just used to it. "Focus Attack" sounds weird to me.

[Kang Do]

Focus Attack because what the hell are they saving?

And every time you guys say SA, I think you're about to do a Super Art. SF4 may not have Super Arts but it just leaves me assuming it's 3S players having a hard time breaking habits.

[Kalyx triaD]

If somebody writes either term I'll know what they're talking about, so this 'debate' is kinda moot.

Personally, I'm going with Focus Attacks. It sounds no stranger or stupid than any other fighting game term. It could have been called "Severe Strikes" for all I care.

[Gutter Trash]

we are speaking in English on this board so lets go for the Western name: Focus Attack, there.

Anyway, SA is TS is Super Art so :P let's go for FA

[xero15]

its called saving cuz its intention was to "save" your ass from tight situations to reverse the match

[Humbag]

Focus for me.

[*Onslaught*]

Focus Attack(FA) is better. SA already has a notation.

[Taito]

Call it Focus, its going to be annoying when people start using "SA3" for a level 3 Focus Attack.
Bingo.

And 'Saving' really has no meaning to me. Meanwhile I can visualize the character putting all his 'focus' into executing a power hit, ignoring any distractions (or single hits).

[Crisium]

I'm used to people saying Saving Attack, but I'll change. Focus Attack does make sense, and is unique (unlike SA which could mean something else). So hey, let's go with it.

[laugh]

Focus Attack for the win. SA is hella confusing with Super Arts. The only thing that I can think of that FA overlaps with is First Attack.

[terracotta]

thread is useless without a poll.

[booda]

Focus Attack(FA) is better. SA already has a notation.
That's my reasoning.

Plus, Ono said he wanted a better name for the overseas version.

[Arkayne17]

Guess what.. FA..

[Akuma Goof]

I vote for Focus Attack (FA). The less confusion with past/other present notations, the better. In my opinion. :)

[Ex0dUs27]

focus wins:woot:

[DevilJin 01]

OK we need to decide on something...

Parrying or Blocking?! We've been using parrying for 3S for years but I think it's time for a revote.

[Henaki]

OK we need to decide on something...

Parrying or Blocking?! We've been using parrying for 3S for years but I think it's time for a revote.

blocking, so now its safe on wakeup.

[booda]

OK we need to decide on something...

Parrying or Blocking?! We've been using parrying for 3S for years but I think it's time for a revote.
Well, the reason for that was because "guarding" was always referred to as blocking. When SF3's "blocking" was introduced, it wouldn't make sense to have blocking and blocking.

So we can't change parrying to blocking unless we change blocking to guarding.

[Henaki]

Well, the reason for that was because "guarding" was always referred to as blocking. When SF3's "blocking" was introduced, it wouldn't make sense to have blocking and blocking.

So we can't change parrying to blocking unless we change blocking to guarding.

congrats you're a moron

[P.o.t.S.]

Now that you mention parries, I think Focus Attack is a better name for the exact same reasons as Parry:

1- It's a better description of what the move does (parrying was more accurate than blocking, same with focus and saving)
2- It's the name used in the Western versions of the game, which is what most people here will be playing
3- It doesn't conflict with previous existing notations

[RagingStormX]

Everytime I see SA my brain says Super art. FA ftw.

[booda]

congrats you're a moron
Congratulations, you missed the joke.

[SN3S]

Everytime I see SA my brain says Super art. FA ftw.

Pretty much, and when I see a focus attack being charged, it looks like they're focusing on beating the crap out of the opponent :lol:

[Mr.hitBOX]

F'nA ftw

[evilj]

in the psn trailer of this game I downloaded two weeks ago, they referred to it as the focus attack.

[TewDee]

Can I not give a damn and call it either one?

That'd be awesome...

[ulovemikeroch]

It's not a debate, whatever capcom puts in the US version is the winner. If the move is called "Focus Attack" in the us version, then thats the standard.

The boss names are confusing because they mean one character in the US, and another in Japan. "Saving Attack" has no meaning other than "The japanese version of what we will call a Focus Attack".
?
Bison has no other meaning than "The Japanese version of who we will call Balrog."

[Branh0913]

Focus Attack, and that should be it.



The reason why there is so much boss confusion is because a American fanboys started calling Bison, Balrog, and Vega by their Japanese names, in some attempt to be cute. Now we have to call them Boxer, Claw, and Dictator to avoid confusion. Thanks to the pseudo Japanese fanboy crowd.


Let's go with FA, before we be calling it Autoguard a year from now.

[-D-]

Both hands for Focus, cause even in russian the word "focus" means some kind of trick! So "Do the focus" means to do some kind of magic like full parry or smth:) That would definitely be the right name!

[Ultima]

I've been calling it "Focus Attack" since whenever the Us name of it was revealed.. the GDC back in February maybe?

I've also been calling the bit where you cancel a Focus Attack with a dash a Focus (Attack) Dash Cancel, or FDC for short.

Apparently cancelling a move into Saving Attack is referred to as EX Saving Attack, so logically, the english equivalent would be EX Focus Attack (EX FA).

Combining the two - i.e. cancelling a move into Focus Attack, then canceling again with a dash - would result in something like EX FDC. I suppose would could trim it down to just EX Focus Cancel (EX FC), but that might get confusing (LOL abbreivations).