First STREET FIGHTER IV Arcade Machine @ Super Arcade (SOCAL) !

[MarkMan]

Thought it deserved it's own thread...

First STREET FIGHTER IV Machine In The US! (http://sdtekken.com/2008/08/12/first-street-fighter-iv-machine-in-the-us/)

August 12, 2008

(http://sdtekken.com/2008/08/12/first-street-fighter-iv-machine-in-the-us/)
You might remember Super Arcade for being one of the first places to get Tekken 6 (http://sdtekken.com/2008/03/18/tekken-6-arrives-in-southern-california/) in the United States, well now they are the first arcade to get Street Fighter IV! Special thanks to KaNE for the heads up! If you are in the Southern California area and want to try out Street Fighter IV… Here is the address:

Super Arcade
1211 N. Grand Ave
Walnut, CA 91748
MAP (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/Super+Arcade:1211+N+Grand+Ave+Walnut+CA+91789-1343/?#a/search/l::1211+N+Grand+Ave:Walnut:CA:91789-1343:US:34.043313:-117.84802:address:Los+Angeles+County/m:null:9:34.036189:-117.842612:0::/so:Super+Arcade:::d::25:::::/e)

The arcade is located right across the street from Mt. San Antonio College in the same plaza with Jack In The Box.

[Sanchez]

I'm there on Thursday. NO FUCKING DOUBT!

[Onslaught35]

How late are they open until, and how much to play?

[EveryFlowerFlow]

so cal gets everything. fuck you guys :sad:

[Rickstah]

Super Arcade is open until midnight every Sun-Thurs, 1am on Fri-Sat.

[SRKev]

Where's my NorCal machine dammit!!!:mad:

[xXx$HIN-GIEFxXx]

You lucky Bastards!.:mad::nunchuck:

[Akutabi Gamma]

Plz try to record some match vids :)

[Maximilian Masters]

Plz try to record some match vids :)

You better believe it. :rofl:

[bobino]

ok so i just got done playing sf4 at super arcade so i guess ill give u the good news and the bad news

the good news is that the game is in the US officially and its 50c per play....now for the bad news

the game is split up on 2 japanese cabinets. the one on the left has the music on way loud and u cant move left. the screen isnt HD but it still looks pretty nice.

The machine on the right has no sound and the screen isnt too great. on this machine roundhouse is not working at all

from what i understand there will be no card system for sf4 at super which is a bummer and i am going to assume that we wont be getting hd screens to play this on

So to anyone planning to play sf4 at super i would say give it a few days to make sure everything is working like it should so u can get an accurate first impression of the game

i will b heading to the arcade after work tomorrow to see if they changed the cabinets and ill post up what i find

[panties]

Just got back. Here's the proof:

http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sf4xn8.jpg

Should have taken pictures of the machine. It slipped my mind as I shat bricks of anger. Match vids were even less likely to happen. Read on.

So here's the deal:

THE JOYSTICK ON PLAYER 1 IS BROKEN.
It doesn't move left. At all. Serious.

Yea. Anything else in this post runs second to that unfortunate fact. Most everything else in super is also somewhat broken, as it usually is. Well, except for Tekken6... which seems to never break, mysteriously.

The run down:
Two mismatched machines are currently running SF4... a standup and a sitdown machine. Both machines are configured for possible two player support, but are wired together so that player 1 is on the standup and player 2 is on the sit down.
Judging from the shitty machines (both of them have been without games on them for months if not years) and placement in a random corner, it's a temporary spot until one of the main astro-city cabinets in the center aisle can be converted over to SF4. I hope. You never quite know with super.

2 tokens (~50 cents) to play, although you'd be wasting your half-dollar on the standup. And probably most of the fun on the sit down, being without an acceptable human opponent.

edit: earlier says sitdown is somewhat busted as well. Well then, it's almost an equal match with two critically handicapped characters. Only played on the standup, did not know.

[MADma3str0]

Where's my NorCal machine dammit!!!:mad:

seriously

[Hellfromabove]

Just got back. Here's the proof:

http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sf4xn8.jpg

Should have taken pictures of the machine. It slipped my mind as I shat bricks of anger. Match vids were even less likely to happen. Read on.

So here's the deal:

THE JOYSTICK ON PLAYER 1 IS BROKEN.
It doesn't move left. At all. Serious.

Yea. Anything else in this post runs second to that unfortunate fact. Most everything else in super is also somewhat broken, as it usually is. Well, except for Tekken6... which seems to never break, mysteriously.

The run down:
Two mismatched machines are currently running SF4... a standup and a sitdown machine. Both machines are configured for possible two player support, but are wired together so that player 1 is on the standup and player 2 is on the sit down.
Judging from the shitty machines (both of them have been without games on them for months if not years) and placement in a random corner, it's a temporary spot until one of the main astro-city cabinets in the center aisle can be converted over to SF4. I hope. You never quite know with super.

2 tokens (~50 cents) to play, although you'd be wasting your half-dollar on the standup. And probably most of the fun on the sit down, being without an acceptable human opponent.

edit: earlier says sitdown is somewhat busted as well. Well then, it's almost an equal match with two critically handicapped characters. Only played on the standup, did not know.

Hopefully they fix it since I'd like to go try it out. I was going to go tomorrow, guess I'll have to call them before I go in to see if it is fixed yet or not.

-Tha Hindu

[Duy Nguyen]

Wow good stuff. I'll probably start heading on there when I get some more confirmation on better working sticks. Wouldn't want to play on broken sticks for my first SF4 experience.

[EvilSamurai]

Somebody steal their board. They don't deserve it. I remember back when some random fucks stole MK2 out of a bowling alley. Just do the same thing.

[Tigerboi]

lol, u.s. arcades at their finest.

[Hellfromabove]

Honestly, if they have a game with this calibur of hype and completely butcher it by putting it in 2 different styles of arcade cabs with non working controls and with non HD then fuck them. I say we boycott the arcade!!!

-Tha Hindu

[Demon Dash]

Anyone know how they attained the two boards without buying two of the cabinets? I thought you had to get everything at $24,000 in order to have the game...

[MCTek]

I've been going to super arcade on and off for about 12 years, starting back when it was called western arcade. Hate to bum people out but don't hold your breath on SF4 being completely playable for any amount of time.

This arcade routinely set the damage to max on capcom games. MvC1 Spiderman air combo I remember did 50 percent. When 3s first got there ken short short shippu did 50 percent at least.

Capcom games have never gotten good controls. The last time I played a decent round of a capcom fighter there was MvC1 when it first came out, and that's cause it came in the big cabinet. After the shift to the 2nd-hand-run-down japanese cabinets nothing gets fixed. I don't think the guy who runs the place knows where to get spare parts or something.

Can't really say anything about the people who play there regularly. I kinda want to say they are good, but I think it's more accurate to say they are just more used to the horribly shitty broken controls. Kind of a sad home field advantage. When vids started appearing on the net I noticed the comp got a LITTLE better. Before sites like combovideo or zachd that place was stuck in the dark ages of marvel. I'm talking everyone had cable or blackheart on their team.

Well as someone who lives very close to this dump, I really hope the publicity give the bastard who owns the place a reason to fix all the controls.

[Pat the Great]

Honestly, if they have a game with this calibur of hype and completely butcher it by putting it in 2 different styles of arcade cabs with non working controls and with non HD then fuck them. I say we boycott the arcade!!!

-Tha Hindu

yeah, boycott the arcade.

because there's somewhere ELSE to go play sfiv that isn't, you know, an ocean away.

[Taito]

Does the cabinet(s) have lollipop joysticks? I'd kill a cat in cold blood for a chance to play this game with a bat stick.

[The Mullah]

yeah, boycott the arcade.

because there's somewhere ELSE to go play sfiv that isn't, you know, an ocean away.

that's a stupid thing to say.


Going to this arcade is the equivilent to watching, say, transformers 2 on a camcorder bootleg copy before it hits the cinema. You're only ruining the experience for yourself. I agree with the hindi SFiv is worth playing for the first time on a real cab, in HD, with working controls.

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

Bought my plane ticket there already.... $539.

[CFAY]

that's a stupid thing to say.


Going to this arcade is the equivilent to watching, say, transformers 2 on a camcorder bootleg copy before it hits the cinema. You're only ruining the experience for yourself. I agree with the hindi SFiv is worth playing for the first time on a real cab, in HD, with working controls.

true. i was able to play sf4 on a regular cab the other day and it just dont seem the same as the highdef viewlix(sp) cabs. i think the only thing worse that an arcade not having a game you want to play is having it with broken controls. i mean how hard is it to fix these things????

[MCTek]

very hard if all the cabinets came from some japanese arcade grave yard. One of the third strike cab was loose, so they duct taped it. The duct taped broke. That's the end of that story.

also the owner is like 100 years old.

[clue2025]

true. i was able to play sf4 on a regular cab the other day and it just dont seem the same as the highdef viewlix(sp) cabs. i think the only thing worse that an arcade not having a game you want to play is having it with broken controls. i mean how hard is it to fix these things????

I can fix it and I've never seen the inside of an arcade machine in person or the control panel.

If you're gonna get a game like this then how do you NOT set it up the right way? I mean hell throw it in a 3s machine or somethin. But if its because the arcade hates on capcom games (The arcade owner in pittsburgh does this) then someone needs to jack that shit.

Seriously, shit like this is the reason arcades die.

Edit: And yeah... how did they get just 2 boards? The entire time the issue was you had to pay 24k for the entire set up.

[caliagent#3]

why boycott, when you could ask to get the controls fixed??

[Dandy J]

boycott rofl

[comoesa]

Geez, broken controls yikes.

hope timoe can fix them.

[Catalyst]

What a mess. Might as well just go there, sit down in front of the machines, and masturbate to the attract screens.

[Dandy J]

What a mess. Might as well just go there, sit down in front of the machines, and masturbate to the attract screens.
i smell a road trip

[T-hawk]

What a mess. Might as well just go there, sit down in front of the machines, and masturbate to the attract screens.

Dude why do you always talk abt masturbating?!?!?

Both your posts for today include the word masturbation

poor hand of yours, im sure it would run away if it could :wgrin:

[Catalyst]

Dude why do you always talk abt masturbating?!?!?

Both your posts for today include the word masturbation

poor hand of yours, im sure it would run away if it could :wgrin:

I only see my gf on weekends, and it's a slow day at work. It's a natural reaction!

(and a funny mental image)

[magnus]

very hard if all the cabinets came from some japanese arcade grave yard. One of the third strike cab was loose, so they duct taped it. The duct taped broke. That's the end of that story.

also the owner is like 100 years old.

The maintenance of the arcade is not always in good working order, it's a proven fact for years and years. The owner is there every morning, say from opening till about 11-12ish then leaves.

If I am in the area, I will be sure to have him fix it. Some of the regulars will surely have him fix it if they catch him there. This would be a good arcade if quality cabinets and equipment are used to prevent them from failing every day.

Tekken 6, Inital D, and Maximum Tune are the three games that are regularily maintained.

[Maximilian Masters]

The maintenance of the arcade is not always in good working order, it's a proven fact for years and years. The owner is there every morning, say from opening till about 11-12ish then leaves.

If I am in the area, I will be sure to have him fix it. Some of the regulars will surely have him fix it if they catch him there. This would be a good arcade if quality cabinets and equipment are used to prevent them from failing every day.

Tekken 6, Inital D, and Maximum Tune are the three games that are regularily maintained.
Much appreciated on the follow up with the manager to get the game playable. I'm pretty upset they are not on HD screens, but at the same time I'm so damn happy to play SF4 again that I could care less! As soon as the cabinets are working, I'll take the hour drive to get there at least 4 times a week.

[Timoe]

The cabinets are working now although the Forward (mk) button was a bit slow to come out.

Fun times.

Here is a vid of the cabinets in operation

http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/tmogaming/Arcade%20Cabinet/?action=view&current=SuperArcade2008-08-13.flv


The manager seemed like a nice guy and he was working on the machines to get them fully working when I arrived. Money talks, if you want to see more machines there and see them kept up, he'll need to see some traffic. $0.50/per game is not that bad. Unless you are a terrible player like me, $0.50 didn't last too long :wgrin:

[Lvl.3]

true. i was able to play sf4 on a regular cab the other day and it just dont seem the same as the highdef viewlix(sp) cabs. i think the only thing worse that an arcade not having a game you want to play is having it with broken controls. i mean how hard is it to fix these things????

Yeah, that is the worst.

Super will probably be the first to get TvC as well.

[Maximilian Masters]

The cabinets are working now although the Forward (mk) button was a bit slow to come out.

Fun times.

Here is a vid of the cabinets in operation

http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/tmogaming/Arcade%20Cabinet/?action=view&current=SuperArcade2008-08-13.flv


The manager seemed like a nice guy and he was working on the machines to get them fully working when I arrived. Money talks, if you want to see more machines there and see them kept up, he'll need to see some traffic. $0.50/per game is not that bad. Unless you are a terrible player like me, $0.50 didn't last too long :wgrin:

Wow, doesent look too bad. Thanks for the update, so how many folks we're waiting around to play?

[Battosai]

I am very surprised that no of the Golf lands in my area have it yet not even SVGL which was the hot spot for north cali comp and they always got the newest games.

[WasFemto]

We aresupposed to get one in Tacoma either next week or the week after. Damn you Cali.

[evilj]

everything is working perfectly, looks ugly however on non hdtv.

[panties]

The cabinets are working now although the Forward (mk) button was a bit slow to come out.

Fun times.

Here is a vid of the cabinets in operation

http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/tmogaming/Arcade%20Cabinet/?action=view&current=SuperArcade2008-08-13.flv


The manager seemed like a nice guy and he was working on the machines to get them fully working when I arrived. Money talks, if you want to see more machines there and see them kept up, he'll need to see some traffic. $0.50/per game is not that bad. Unless you are a terrible player like me, $0.50 didn't last too long :wgrin:

Wow... didn't know the owner was ever at super. I always assumed he stayed at Japan arcade in Little Tokyo (where the 3s is also not completely working).

I assume he just wants to keep his money makers working, seeing as how the Astro-city 3s cabs still have a good portion of their buttons broken. The shmups are often the last to see any fixing. I always think about bring a pad of post its and marking all the buttons in need of fixing.

[yellwill]

i went and it's all working

i talked to the owner and he's nice, he's not 100 years old =.= i'm guessing you're talking about the employees =.=
the owner gave me his email so if there's any problem i can let him know. so if you guys have any problems with the game, here's his email

16813J@live.com

otherwise, he's usually there from like... 10-11am?

[magnus]

Timoe, nice meeting you earlier this morning. I was the guy wearing a pinstriped dress shirt and pants.

In terms of cabinets, both sides were 100% working as off 1:00pm. The wait was about 1/2 hour per play, depending on who cuts in and what not (typical when many people are waiting to pay one game).

In terms of the setup, yes, an HD cabinet would be great. However, take into consideration the cost and profit of running an arcade. It's not that cheap or much profit off the top, otherwise more arcades would be up and running. Since he does have one of the few (if not the only) official Tekken 6 cabinet, he probably didn't want to spend that much money unless the game is a success and will pay for a new cabinet on it's own. Please also consider that this arcade makes much of it's profit during the school year from MTSAC and Cal Poly Pomona. Timoe said it, if you want better equipment for this game, then it would be suggested that interest is shown by either talking to the owner in the morning (10-12ish) when he is there, or by playing the actual game.

If the equipment starts breaking and knows people are palying this game, he might rethink purchasing a better cabinet specifically for it.

Also, I am under the impression that Japan will be getting various updates, which may not be immediatly available due to its unofficial release here in the States. I hope updates are provided to keep this and other locations that may get the game in the loop.

[Timoe]

Nice meeting you also magnus. See ya there next time.

[Madriker]

This' awesome news; I'm headed over there in about an hour.

[bobino]

quick update...

around 2:30 the right cabinet stopped working, something about a coin jam so as far as i know only the left side is working

[AKUMA2000]

You better believe it. :rofl:

you know it. :rofl: :tup:

[Maximilian Masters]

quick update...

around 2:30 the right cabinet stopped working, something about a coin jam so as far as i know only the left side is working

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :mad:

[yellwill]

i just went to the lollicup near it, and i see the owner fixing it now

[yellwill]

i have been told that is it now fixed

[K4ever]

Make that shit stay fixed !!!!!!!!!!!! >:-o

[Demon Dash]

Anyone found out how he aquired the boards alone? Or did he keep the cabs for him self lol?

[TMO Gaming]

He bought them from some company in Japan. (capcom distributor?) He mentioned that he is aware that the game would look better with HD screens.

We should ask him to put the boards in his new Tekken 6 machines. :)

[TheSix]

Where's my NorCal machine dammit!!!:mad:

What this man said.

I'm willing to drive :shake:

[magnus]

Anyone found out how he aquired the boards alone? Or did he keep the cabs for him self lol?

I am not sure how the boards were aquired alone. I know that these where boards possibly used at Evo this past weekend, at least that's what I was aware of. Unless the boards are to follow, he probably got hooked up somehow. The only other thing I can think of is that the owner parted out the cabinet to make up on cost and possibly save on shipping from wherever the unit came from.

[DragonPunchPimP]

I hear Super is kinda far from where I am at what city is it in???

[AmbiguousCrosup]

What this man said.

I'm willing to ride the bus :shake:

fixed for me.

[Hellfromabove]

I only see my gf on weekends, and it's a slow day at work. It's a natural reaction!

(and a funny mental image)

True that man. If you don't masturbate to pass the time then you'll just be bored out of your mind!!!

SF4 UPDATE:

I went and talked to the owner at FFA (good friend/ business partner of mine) about Super having the SF4 machine. He said he's known about it and it doesn't bum him out at all. Even though the owner is his competition he is also a good friend of his. He is aware that the colors are off on the screen, the controls suck balls, and it's on 2 different cabs. The owner told him that these are all problems with the setup and he will be helping him out with the problems. Hopefully they get it up and running soon because I want to play it since I didn't get a chance to at Evo because I was too busy promoting my arcade sticks and other shit.

-Tha Hindu

[Madriker]

Left at around 6:00 PM, both machines were functioning an' there were plenty of people.

Chatted with one of the workers, he told me they didn't have the cabs an' that even if they did the cards wouldn't work. They've got no way to establish a connection with the JP server, so the cards would be worthless. But yeah... the arcades function, but the quality of the monitors and the controls is subpar. Worth giving the game a shot though.

[Hellfromabove]

Left at around 6:00 PM, both machines were functioning an' there were plenty of people.

Chatted with one of the workers, he told me they didn't have the cabs an' that even if they did the cards wouldn't work. They've got no way to establish a connection with the JP server, so the cards would be worthless. But yeah... the arcades function, but the quality of the monitors and the controls is subpar. Worth giving the game a shot though.

Well, if it's working now guess I'll probably go down tomorrow.

-Tha Hindu

[NeREMIXED]

I was thinking. They should put SF4 on the DR machine. And get DR out of there. No one is going to be playing it with T6 there.

Ooooooooorrrrr.

Put SF4 on the T6 machine and put the T6 board in the DR machine. The Tekken players would rather use their own controls anyways.

[Duy Nguyen]

The line for SF4 was pretty insane today. The waiting list was more than 30 people!!! I'm so tired from calling out people's names and telling them they missed their turn. I can't believe I was there for 5hrs. and I played a total of 5 games. I gotta read up on the Shoryukens because I'm getting stuffed by simple j.roundhouses.

[ArcadeFire]

I'll be there tomorrow for sure

[TempestFox]

Damn Californians getting your fix before me.

[bobino]

ya man the lines are retarded but people arent used to fighting my rufus so its easy to get wins when all u play against is ryu and ken

[Sanchez]

I'll be there tomorrow for sure
See ya there, homie!
ya man the lines are retarded but people arent used to fighting my rufus so its easy to get wins when all u play against is ryu and ken

Hope you like Abel and Boxer!

Sanchez and Shoo will be there after 6ish. Anyone want to put a coin up for us? So we can start styling as soon as we get there?

[ArcadeFire]

^ For sure Sanchez.

Damn if those lines are like hours long I'll just watch =/

[mtsac kid]

Rufus is officially braindead
nigga does for free damage
Rufus can dive kick at ANY height (magneto shit)
couple that with :
- a B&B combo that does about 5% chip or about 25-30% damage
- after his B&B he can roll to get into the right distance for bullshit
- Rufus can dive kick at ANY height (magneto shit) I saw him dive kick just about the height of Guiles foot on the ground..its that ghey..plus dive kick comes out insanely fast
- dive kick is also ambiguous sometimes as well
- Rufus' moves are very safe (random ass EX grabs will get him between the dive kick and low fierce)
ass damage - safe as hell moves - easy as hell combos
Ken does even get that much damage off of a crossup combo into DP into super


word on the street is that thru wifi update on friday they are nerfing Rufus
thank goodness

[evilj]

Rufus is officially braindead
nigga does for free damage
Rufus can dive kick at ANY height (magneto shit)
couple that with :
- a B&B combo that does about 5% chip or about 25-30% damage
- after his B&B he can roll to get into the right distance for bullshit
- Rufus can dive kick at ANY height (magneto shit) I saw him dive kick just about the height of Guiles foot on the ground..its that ghey..plus dive kick comes out insanely fast
- dive kick is also ambiguous sometimes as well
- Rufus' moves are very safe (random ass EX grabs will get him between the dive kick and low fierce)
ass damage - safe as hell moves - easy as hell combos
Ken does even get that much damage off of a crossup combo into DP into super


word on the street is that thru wifi update on friday they are nerfing Rufus
thank goodness

I heard the super cabinet is not connected to the japanese network or something in other words no patch.

[mtsac kid]

whaaaaaaaaat
damn i think imma start a tip box so we can connect
sounds fair no??

anyways today was a blast
30+ heads at all times
arcade play is fine i dont mind the different setups
as long as you can play
great games kino and maximillian from santa monica

will be there early after job fair to figure out new shit with fuerte and viper

[CFAY]

Rufus is officially braindead
nigga does for free damage
Rufus can dive kick at ANY height (magneto shit)
couple that with :
- a B&B combo that does about 5% chip or about 25-30% damage
- after his B&B he can roll to get into the right distance for bullshit
- Rufus can dive kick at ANY height (magneto shit) I saw him dive kick just about the height of Guiles foot on the ground..its that ghey..plus dive kick comes out insanely fast
- dive kick is also ambiguous sometimes as well
- Rufus' moves are very safe (random ass EX grabs will get him between the dive kick and low fierce)
ass damage - safe as hell moves - easy as hell combos
Ken does even get that much damage off of a crossup combo into DP into super


word on the street is that thru wifi update on friday they are nerfing Rufus
thank goodness

i guess you didnt get caught with the jumping HK to EX DP move yet. all i can say is that youll figure him out sooner or later. he'll always be a good challenge but i'm sure no one in the US already got to unbeatable rufus status so just watch him carefully. standing jabs will stop his dive kick so its good for people who like to do it more than once. if youre throwing fireballs, you should get off a good amount of his health before he gets close. normal uppercut will stop his dive kick also. use SA dash back baits. throw has ass and abuse cross up mix ups. dont spend the match waiting for him to make mistakes. his moves are as safe as auto block. you gotta work for your damage. if all fails, pick guile and get real basic. he can barely jump directly up over a slow sonic boom so throw one and watch him act a fool. if he tries to jump over you catch him with a early jumping heavy or uppercut. once he gets close he got one thing on his mind, dive kick so get your ex flash kick ready. remember cross up with LK if he gets in cross up range. dont let him anticipate your jump, it will hurt.

[bobino]

ya thats exactly how i use rufus i jsut wait for the jump and do the j.hk ex dp takes a huge chunk if it all connects. most people are just unfamiliar w/ him so instead of figuring him out they complain his dive kick doesnt have the greatest of priority i think dhalsims st.hk beat it out every single time and it didnt even matter when he pushed hk. i hope super can get disc based patches if the game does get updated.

[evilj]

I don't think he's that bad, like tekken 4 jin, and I do enjoy winning with him lol, but my first impression is that the risk/reward is a little unfair.

I think gief, vega, dhalsim has some tools against him, shotos as well, but because of his damage output, you have to outplay rufus and guess right a more than a few times than he does to win.

[Demon Dash]

He bought them from some company in Japan. (capcom distributor?) He mentioned that he is aware that the game would look better with HD screens.

We should ask him to put the boards in his new Tekken 6 machines. :)

I am not sure how the boards were aquired alone. I know that these where boards possibly used at Evo this past weekend, at least that's what I was aware of. Unless the boards are to follow, he probably got hooked up somehow. The only other thing I can think of is that the owner parted out the cabinet to make up on cost and possibly save on shipping from wherever the unit came from.

Cool...

If anyone gets a chance to speek to the owner, can they enqire into it further? If it's all hush hush (on the down-low), then that's cool. But if he legitimately got them off a supplier, I'm sure there's a lot of people looking for the same oppertunities. $24,000's a lot of money...

[Maximilian Masters]

whaaaaaaaaat
damn i think imma start a tip box so we can connect
sounds fair no??

anyways today was a blast
30+ heads at all times
arcade play is fine i dont mind the different setups
as long as you can play
great games kino and maximillian from santa monica

will be there early after job fair to figure out new shit with fuerte and viper
Much appreciated dude, there we're some really good matches in there. I was trying to open up the focus attack possibilities to everyone, to make the game look more interesting. Concerning Rufus, it seems like he's really anti 12 characters in the game, while the other 4 might actually stand a chance and be able to punish his dive kicks. Nothing else he does is punishable, which gives him all the chances in the world be to 99% offense.

Was nice meeting you guys, and will probably be back there tonight! :rofl:
(the board really needs to be swapped into different cabinets)

[magnus]

Cool...

If anyone gets a chance to speek to the owner, can they enqire into it further? If it's all hush hush (on the down-low), then that's cool. But if he legitimately got them off a supplier, I'm sure there's a lot of people looking for the same oppertunities. $24,000's a lot of money...

I know TMO asked why he didn't get the cabinets and the owner mentioned the cost. His english is not all that great, so I might have a very hard time talking to him about him obtaining just the boards. I'll see if someone can either translate for me or speak to him about it.

[Demon Dash]

I know TMO asked why he didn't get the cabinets and the owner mentioned the cost. His english is not all that great, so I might have a very hard time talking to him about him obtaining just the boards. I'll see if someone can either translate for me or speak to him about it.
Nice one, thanks.

[TMO Gaming]

$0.75 per game now. Dude's got to get paid.

[Maximilian Masters]

$0.75 per game now. Dude's got to get paid.
Hope he makes it $1.50, get less people crowding the place...and it will still constantly get a user pumping $$ in there. Since it was .50 to start, the guy is only pulling in around $210 a day on that machine if people play once every 2 mins.

[evilj]

^oh god, time to start whoring instead of trying to learn/test out the game. :shake: thumbs down super. thumbs down.

[yellwill]

Hope he makes it $1.50, get less people crowding the place...and it will still constantly get a user pumping $$ in there. Since it was .50 to start, the guy is only pulling in around $210 a day on that machine if people play once every 2 mins.

$1.50? are you kidding? :confused: but yeah... it'll shorten the line FOSHO! HAHAAHAHHA

$24,000's a lot of money...

if the game is really 24k... 50cents a game isn't getting him a profit yo...:looney:

[mtsac kid]

it was already 75 cents to begin with
at the rate of how that machine would steal your tokens
heh

[Maximilian Masters]

it was already 75 cents to begin with
at the rate of how that machine would steal your tokens
heh

Haha yea, that old cabinet was a coin eating monster. I lost at least $1 in the 5 games I played that night. You gonna be there again late tonight?

[ArcadeFire]

$0.75 per game now.

FUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCK

Oh well

[evilj]

80 percent of people here pick ryu and ken, it's boring as hell playing against it all the time.

[Maximilian Masters]

80 percent of people here pick ryu and ken, it's boring as hell playing against it all the time.

It wouldn't be Street Fighter without that statistic. Doesn't hurt the fact that they're world recognized icons. I can agree with you however, but I still love it XD

[The Orphan]

Shit, at 75 cents I'd probably pick Ryu and Ken too. You'll just be throwing away money if you're gonna try out new characters and then get raped and then have to wait 30 fucking minutes to play again. I'll probably go on Tuesday morning and hope that not many people are there.

[shoo]

sweet

bison loves shotos

[Maximilian Masters]

Shit, at 75 cents I'd probably pick Ryu and Ken too. You'll just be throwing away money if you're gonna try out new characters and then get raped and then have to wait 30 fucking minutes to play again. I'll probably go on Tuesday morning and hope that not many people are there.
Agreed, the idea of losing with an unfamiliar character then waiting another 45 mins to play aint so hot.

[evilj]

well it's a new game, and it's slower paced than the other sf games, footsies is slower and have to be done at a close range, my point :you're not gonna get raped if you play it safe and stay back testing moves and figuring out what's good. Besides, 8 of the characters are from sf2, it shouldn't be hard to figure them out.

I did pretty well with rufus my first time trying him without looking at any vids or knowing any moves. It doesn't take that long to figure out his anti airs, good pokes, and specials.

It's still a fun game, but when I see shoto shoto matchups over and over again, it just looks like a slower version of ST combined with sf3.

[haunts]

yeah i stuck to shotos at EVO becuase of that same reason. Id rather use them to figure out the fundamentals of the game first w/o worrying about getting roasted too bad.

When it comes to console and has a dojo mode ill fuck around with the new characters.

[The Orphan]

I just want the lines to die down. If I can get a few hours to fuck around with all of the characters then I won't mind spending like 10 bucks to play as everyone.

[Maximilian Masters]

well it's a new game, and it's slower paced than the other sf games, footsies is slower and have to be done at a close range, my point :you're not gonna get raped if you play it safe and stay back testing moves and figuring out what's good. Besides, 8 of the characters are from sf2, it shouldn't be hard to figure them out.

I did pretty well with rufus my first time trying him without looking at any vids or knowing any moves. It doesn't take that long to figure out his anti airs, good pokes, and specials.

It's still a fun game, but when I see shoto shoto matchups over and over again, it just looks like a slower version of ST combined with sf3.

Yea, Rufus seems to be very 'new to SF4 friendly'. A big reason alot of the shoto matches are not as entertaining is because nobody is utilizing the focus attack very well. Last night I had to describe the focus attack several times over and over to the people attending Super. Absorbing, Dash cancelling, attack cancelling, lv 1 2 3, etc etc. When people use these aspects, the game looks really pretty. I found Rufus to be kind of boring after watching people pick him over and over, since he's so anti shoto/everything. Except folks werent using his target combo-ultra.

[evilj]

^I think I was one of those people you explained it to lol. I still don't really get it, haven't had much time or situation to try it. I'm going to go one of these mornings when there's less people and try out stuff, or ask people to let me try stuff in the last round and just give them the win.

[Maximilian Masters]

^I think I was one of those people you explained it to lol. I still don't really get it, haven't had much time or situation to try it. I'm going to go one of these mornings when there's less people and try out stuff, or ask people to let me try stuff in the last round and just give them the win.
We might of run into each-other last night, I was the tall white dood with the ponytail. Next time, try close up, LK->HK(launch) Ultra. You can see it in that EVO mirror rufus match that s-kill played with nuki on the video thread. Actually, I don't even think you need to be close...such BS lol

[evilj]

Yeah, I think we talked, you played zangief right? I just play rufus when i'm trying to end long ken streaks and stay on the machine, what sucks is that I really don't want to play him afterwards but I can't change characters.

[Maximilian Masters]

Yeah, I think we talked, you played zangief right? I just play rufus when i'm trying to end long ken streaks and stay on the machine, what sucks is that I really don't want to play him afterwards but I can't change characters.
I was one of those Ken streakers lol. It's not just ken although, aside from the ridiculous Rufus streaks...I walked in on a guy playing Honda rolling a 14 game win streak. Just goes to show that shoto mastery isn't everything, but is something.

[magnus]

I was one of those Ken streakers lol. It's not just ken although, aside from the ridiculous Rufus streaks...I walked in on a guy playing Honda rolling a 14 game win streak. Just goes to show that shoto mastery isn't everything, but is something.

Ah, that was you today. Didn't play you, but watch you get a few games in before I went back to work. Good shit.

[Maximilian Masters]

Ah, that was you today. Didn't play you, but watch you get a few games in before I went back to work. Good shit.

Much appreciated, try to do as much focus related attacks as possible. Its purdy...and worth the 40 mile drive from santa monica :rofl:

[mtsac kid]

gg's today
i was the guy who streaked with balrog - ken - ryu - bison tonight
game is coming along nicely
should be 25 cents in a month
when the price goes down
youll see more variety in character useage

props to that dhalsim player using those urien styled setups..hes gonna be a headache

neiman you are picking it up like Hugo was in this game man..ridiculous

sanchez you are ABEL son

maximillian hot damn son you are too nice with those focus cancels..youre making me step my game up!

will be there friday night with some old school SF/3S players who are eager to see SF4

PS I did it by accident and saw the computer do it to me..as confirmed by the Japanese SRK SF4 community..Zangief has a magic SPD..i pumped a DP out and nothing came except for me being grabbed..hella weird..he knocks u down..u see no get up animation or anything..he just grabs u outta nowhere

[ArcadeFire]

Ugh Viper sucks SOOO much. Nobody could touch MM and his KRAZY cancels lolz GG's

[Sanchez]

sanchez you are ABEL son


Thanks, bro.

THEY AIN'T GOT YO FUNDAMENTALS! I guess the owner is trying to get his investment back asap. Fuck, 75 cents a game with high damage! SHENANIGANS.

Still, I'll try to show up the next time I'm free. Good times.

[Maximilian Masters]

Ugh Viper sucks SOOO much. Nobody could touch MM and his KRAZY cancels lolz GG's

She can get better, will just take alot of play and patience I think. Trying to break the game down to its roots with the focus attacks. Good games last night tho, that damn tricky Viper ultra! :rofl:

Really good looking stuff with Abel Sanchez. Those mix ups with surprise grabs are fun as hell to watch, not to mention Abel's a badass. Who was the guy rolling with that 'Awesome Dhalsim' last night? So bitchen to see you guys bust open the game, and show possibilities with the rest of the cast.

[Sanchez]

Lovepig was the guy rocking the AWESOME DHALSIM. Theory fighter is the way to go!

I'm looking to EL FUERTE it up next time.

[ArcadeFire]

She can get better, will just take alot of play and patience I think. Trying to break the game down to its roots with the focus attacks. Good games last night tho, that damn tricky Viper ultra! :rofl:


Yeah ALOT of patience XP I had better results with Guile lol

[Gumbercules]

sanchez teach me SF4

[Sanchez]

sanchez teach me SF4

Holla at me, son. Get some drinks. Talk some shop. Yell at underage girls. WE MAJOR.

[Gumbercules]

Ima bee gone til like the 25th, after that i'm calling you gays for sure

[Maximilian Masters]

gg's today
i was the guy who streaked with balrog - ken - ryu - bison tonight
game is coming along nicely
should be 25 cents in a month
when the price goes down
youll see more variety in character useage

props to that dhalsim player using those urien styled setups..hes gonna be a headache

neiman you are picking it up like Hugo was in this game man..ridiculous

sanchez you are ABEL son

maximillian hot damn son you are too nice with those focus cancels..youre making me step my game up!

will be there friday night with some old school SF/3S players who are eager to see SF4


Thanks for the help on videos earlier on, I'll be back tonight to tape some more.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=XGPWpi_G0vI
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi9GSgSGsLw
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=l55_x-0e4a8
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xn0QAHWT0fI
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ZT4oTQM0c
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=dD8lvJQ_-pE
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=f6WC2wB3e8o
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=0qOu7ar9qyo
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4ICgk9CGe3Y
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xcbLnPsSz9A
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=7srKA7WZ1I0
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=uEGNg37hqeo
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ew1ZGsvi-8

[Rojo]

Thanks for the help on videos earlier on, I'll be back tonight to tape some more.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=XGPWpi_G0vI
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi9GSgSGsLw
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=l55_x-0e4a8
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xn0QAHWT0fI
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ZT4oTQM0c
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=dD8lvJQ_-pE
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=f6WC2wB3e8o
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=0qOu7ar9qyo
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4ICgk9CGe3Y
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xcbLnPsSz9A
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=7srKA7WZ1I0
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=uEGNg37hqeo
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ew1ZGsvi-8

Damn, thats alot of shoto. Heh, sorta remindes me when Nuki kept picking Ryu (SF4 mini tourney@Evo) the crowed started boo'ing. I sort of do wonder about the longevity of the game?

[shoo]

everyone over here! quick!
(http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=162436)

[Maximilian Masters]

Damn, thats alot of shoto. Heh, sorta remindes me when Nuki kept picking Ryu (SF4 mini tourney@Evo) the crowed started boo'ing. I sort of do wonder about the longevity of the game?

While the SF hardcore folks that mostly consist of many users of this site, are in the majority of disliking shoto characters. Fact of the matter is, Street Fighter isnt Street Fighter without them. Among the minority of people who play hardcore like us (unfortunatly we are all fall into this category lol), there are millions of Street Fighter fans out there who just love the game for what it is, play casually, and are primarily Ken and Ryu fans. If you we're to put the total SF fanbase into comparison, its around 10% hardcore, 90% casual... and that 90% is who their making SF4 for(Ono says this all the time). Ken and Ryu are constantly mid-top tier in every SF game for a big reason...their pop culture icons, it's kinda hard to beat that.

[gilkuma]

{snip}Among the minority of people who play hardcore like us{taken out...}...{of context}are primarily Ken and Ryu fans. Ken and Ryu are constantly mid-top tier in every SF game for a big reason...their pop culture icons, it's kinda hard to beat that.{end misquote}

most play shoto because there is no agreed upon tier list and so pick something familiar. once the list is defined people will drop and flock over. hey, who am i to judge i picked guile.

people would rather win than wait that long ass time for their next go but like i said, once there is a agreed upon tier list it will be a mass of drop and flock.

now about the game. i don't think you can block in the air but why does most everyone insist on jumping in on someone, especially a shoto. I must of seen this one chinese guy anti air upper and connect 95% of the time. the other 5% china either traded and only once was the opp able to land and block.

game plays a little slow to go from a crouching sprite to a standing sprite.

can you jump instead of dash out of a focus?

[evilj]

Thanks for the help on videos earlier on, I'll be back tonight to tape some more.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=XGPWpi_G0vI
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi9GSgSGsLw
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=l55_x-0e4a8
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xn0QAHWT0fI
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ZT4oTQM0c
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=dD8lvJQ_-pE
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=f6WC2wB3e8o
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=0qOu7ar9qyo
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4ICgk9CGe3Y
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xcbLnPsSz9A
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=7srKA7WZ1I0
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=uEGNg37hqeo
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ew1ZGsvi-8

Haven't seen them yet, but thanks a lot for recording vids. I think I can speak for everyone saying we greatly appreciate it. I didn't get a chance to play today but I'll probably be there next week.

[Duy Nguyen]

most play shoto because there is no agreed upon tier list and so pick something familiar. once the list is defined people will drop and flock over. hey, who am i to judge i picked guile.

people would rather win than wait that long ass time for their next go but like i said, once there is a agreed upon tier list it will be a mass of drop and flock.

now about the game. i don't think you can block in the air but why does most everyone insist on jumping in on someone, especially a shoto. I must of seen this one chinese guy anti air upper and connect 95% of the time. the other 5% china either traded and only once was the opp able to land and block.

game plays a little slow to go from a crouching sprite to a standing sprite.

can you jump instead of dash out of a focus?

A majority of the people are still having that mindset of jumping and whiffing tons of moves simply because they're so use to 3s and whatnot. Luckily I play nothing but ST now so I sort of grasp the concept of a refined footsies game. I was actually fireball trapping people and baiting jump ins like nothing on Thursday. Once I figured out that Strong Shoryu is the only Shoryu that Ken can anti-air with everything turned magical.

I was the skinny asian guy with the Rock Lee haircut playing Ken on Thursday. My friends and I were there from 12noon till 9pm that day. I was rolling with the guys who played Sagat and Bison. I'm also the same guy on Wednesday running the super longass list of names all night. We gotta find some better way to keep track of fools because that list is so flawed in many ways possible.

Also thanks MM for the match videos your Ken is too solid.

Edit: Can anyone confirm if back dashes have invincibility frames or not? I swear I've tried to sweep or low forward people and they back dashed through my animation. I also saw it in one of MM's videos where he back dashed away from a low forward.

Also can anyone confirm if Ryu's Tatsu go through fireballs or not. Either I was trippin out during the match or he really Tatsued through my Hadouken. It was relatively close so I thought the animation may have overlapped or Ryu has some kind of invincibility on the startup frame.

[Maximilian Masters]

Really good games to everyone there tonight, especially Christian with mixing it up on Guile and Gief. I had a pretty shitty night match wise, but still had so much damn fun over the 4 hours we we're there. Everything I wasent doing with Ken tonight redeemed itself when I was finally able to pull off the "Ryu Daigo Combo"...

HP Shoryu->FADC forward->Ultra Metsu Hadoken on the fall

I got it to happen ONCE, and never got the damn thing on tape! :arazz:
Heres a blog entry I made regarding Super Arcade on Capcomunity...

http://www.capcom-unity.com/maximilian/blog/2008/08/15/sf4_the_arcade_scene_super_arcade

More videos to come later.

[mtsac kid]

gg's to max and company tonight
guile is shaping up
gonna use him all next week alongside shotos to see how beefy he is
very stubby in this game but his old school keepaway / zone is 100% intact
no super jumps = eat my SB

4 kings are way solid

[aldrum]

Tried this game out yesterday. Was a little sad to see it at 75 cents a game though. First time I picked Blanka and he is still pretty bad ass. Second and third game tried to use El Fuerte "TRIED" but I guess the other players weren't down for a little trying they were down for some winning, lol. The game is pretty freaking awesome. Lot of players there though, so wait time is a little long for my taste. Well be there next week again, to get a little more practice in with El Fuerte.

See you all there.

[SaBrE]

i've posted this in the other threads, but trying here as well. Can anyone find out from the owner, if the setup there is running off One board, or two? The rumor has been that if you wanted to play 2 players on sf4, that it required 2 boards, networked, and obviously 2 cabinets, and if you only had one board, and one cab, that you can only play one player.

can anyone confirm any of this? possibly ask the owner?

[Maximilian Masters]

i've posted this in the other threads, but trying here as well. Can anyone find out from the owner, if the setup there is running off One board, or two? The rumor has been that if you wanted to play 2 players on sf4, that it required 2 boards, networked, and obviously 2 cabinets, and if you only had one board, and one cab, that you can only play one player.

can anyone confirm any of this? possibly ask the owner?

I can tell you thats true. It cost the owner nearly $25,000 total, since each board is around $12,000 each. I have never seen a SF4 machine operate a 2 player from one single cabinet.

[Dreams-Visions]

Amazing to me that these cabinets cost so much.

What drives up the price so high? I mean damn...a game console/PC, case and HDTV is barely breaking, what? $2,000? Where's the cost?

And do arcades ever make up the loss on the investment? Just seems like a helluva lot of quarters.

[SaBrE]

well the kits are out on the 20th at around $2500. But only comes with one board. But it does come with a hub. I just want some absolute confirmation , and not speculation =/ We are planning on getting a board, but not gonna bother if it requires 2 boards and 2 cabs for 2 players. which is just nutty

thx for the response tho.

a lot of that price is due to the development costs on the game. plus the massive shipping

[Maximilian Masters]

well the kits are out on the 20th at around $2500. But only comes with one board. But it does come with a hub. I just want some absolute confirmation , and not speculation =/ We are planning on getting a board, but not gonna bother if it requires 2 boards and 2 cabs for 2 players. which is just nutty

thx for the response tho.

a lot of that price is due to the development costs on the game. plus the massive shipping

It's unfortunately the way that capcom has manipulated the jp arcade market. Forcing retailers to purchase 2 boards, for 2 players. There is NO versus mode of the arcade SF4, you play Arcade mode and if someone else is on the same network, then you receive the challenge.

[dantron]

SaBrE,

where did you hear that the kits are only gonna be 2500?

[SaBrE]

coinopexpress.com and other very reliable sources. for a kit for a new arcade game, thats a pretty typical price. I noticed at coinopexpress tho, that they require you to buy 2 kits minimum tho which kinda makes me think even more so that the game does require 2 boards for 2 players, no matter what, even in kit form =/

[gilley]

Henry Cen(bought SF4 for chinatown fair) said you can order a SF4 kit from capcom of japan for 650,000 yen which comes to about $6k. You need 2 of them, so it's going to cost you about $12k.

I was considering buying 2 boards for myself, but if it's going to cost me 12k, then I think I'll wait. Now if they cost 5k, I'll consider it. This whole 2 boards to play 2 player thing is retarded though.

[SteveTren]

Nice to see everyone enjoying SF4 in Cali. One question... If the owner of the arcade was willing to invest the big bucks to buy the boards (25k!!?? or whatever) Why not go the whole nine yards and get some nice high def cabs to play them on?! Shit thats akin to sticking a Ferrari engine in a Kia body. Anyway have fun..

[mtsac kid]

we should have ran bats
fuck it
!!!

[Jakoavain]

When you think about it, the whole "2 boards for 2 players" has a logic, sorta.

First of all, most japanese arcades were going to buy even more, say 6 or 8 boards. So, they sell them 1 board for each cab (that's 1 player). Capcom gets dough, and since SFIV is hot so do the operators.

The other reason for this is also rooted in the multiple cabinet setup. You see, the SFIV cabinets have a wlan-card in them and are connected to this hub. You can have all those 8 cabs linked together, so you might play with the guy next to you, in front of you or on the other side of the arcade, depending where the cabs are placed. They're not linked to a specific machine, they're all linked. It makes more money for the operators, since the players can find opponents quicker and don't have to be on the facing cabs.

[DreamTR]

You need 2 boards no matter what.

Capcom's logic is so people that want to play the computer can play the computer. It's impossible to think arcade make more money this way. How can you honestly think 2 cabinets with maximum 2 players makes more money than 2 cabinets with a maximum of 4 players.

Sure, it makes more money for Capcom forcing people to buy it like this, but seriously, that's a slap in the face to operators.

If anyone wants to go in on this game in the South, and wants to make some money off of it, getting 2-3 of us together would work. We can get the board installed, split the profits (I have machines) and sell the board if it's not making any money...though I doubt anyone has any money to split this with me in TENNESSEE of all places = P