Akuma RETURNS. Discussion Thread.

[Dreams-Visions]

http://www.capcom-fc.com/sf4/2008/08/post_53.html


==========================VIDEO FOOTAGE

http://vidy.livedoor.biz/archives/795304.html?id=sm4313219 - Bison vs. Akuma
thanks, dragonJAB

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/253435.html - Abel vs. Akuma
thanks, Kira

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/253558.html - Ken vs. Akuma
thanks, Kira

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IPYfFqx_tE - Ken vs. Akuma (YouTube version of above)
thanks, shoo

==========================PHOTOS

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http://www.capcom-fc.com/sf4/thumbnail/s0813gouki1.jpg

http://www.capcom-fc.com/sf4/thumbnail/sopening_01.jpg

http://www.capcom-fc.com/sf4/thumbnail/sopening_02.jpg

http://www.capcom-fc.com/sf4/thumbnail/sopening_03.jpg

http://www.capcom-fc.com/sf4/thumbnail/sopening_09.jpg


==========================ADDITIONAL STUFF


http://streetfighterblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/sf4-direct-feed-of-gouki-in-action.html
thanks, fistoftheryustar

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The bad guy is back. :wgrin: SOMEBODY GIVE ME A HELL YEA.

[Cowdisease]

Yawn.

[gridman]

looks a little short

[shoo]

raging fucking demon 1:30
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IPYfFqx_tE)

[fistoftheryustar]

good job man. thank you. after all the mentioning of gouki in the past, we finally get to see him in game.

i am not disappointed.

badass as always. he's reminding me of Wolverine in some shots. i think his nose is little bit more pointy here and his hairline starts way too early.


but who else likes his dark shadowy character art?

[AKUMA2000]

HELL YEA !!!!!.......**then opens two cans of beer like stone cold steve austin**

[altergenesis]

Fuck Akuma.

[J4YX2]

raging fucking demon 1:30
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IPYfFqx_tE)

I think I just exploded.

[dragonJAB]

Theirs already a thread with all this plus 3 videos of akuma. I don't think theirs a need for another thread of akuma, simple change the tittle of the other one. here. http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=162134

[Catalyst]

Akuma is a scrub's favorite toy.

Yay, he's SO badass. Yawn.

[Hatred Edge]

I love Akuma.
Wow. I didn't think you felt that way about him.

[fistoftheryustar]

http://streetfighterblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/sf4-direct-feed-of-gouki-in-action.html

from strugler's SF blog

[dragonJAB]

Wow. I didn't think you felt that way about him.

lol on that one.

[MrQuotes]

he has EX moves

[SuicidalGrandpa]

Aw yeah. :woot:

[Diek Stiekem]

Nice, didn't expect him to see him in the arcade version though.
Hmm.. maybe Gouken is lumbering around as well.

[pherai]

http://streetfighterblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/sf4-direct-feed-of-gouki-in-action.html

from strugler's SF blog

His bg music is tooo sick.

[xero15]

raging demon didnt look as well as i hoped :tdown:

[Hatred Edge]

That's the remix from A2?! That's hot.

[fistoftheryustar]

http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/ac1.html

if you go to character, gouki's info is the first one there. does anyone know if its been translated yet?

[Yurinka]

His bg music is tooo awesome.
Fixed.

I'm happy seeing he's finally in the arcade version, too.

[Jigsaw]

Granted, I can't read it perfectly but as far as I can tell Gouki's profile doesn't really say that much of interest. Satsui no Hadou, defeated Gouken, fights to the death, wants Ryu, etc etc.

[zqmfgb]

ex demon flips ftw

[marshun]

what happened to the hd remix size gouki ? :confused::mad:

he's the same size as ryu & ken... again :lame:

[Decadence]

Awesome, the SF universe's least interesting character returns.
Complete with the game's least interesting uber-move that has all the fanboys fapping, despite always being outshadowed by at least half any game's Super Combos/Arts anyway.

I'm sorry, why is this exciting news again?

[shoo]

Awesome, the SF universe's least interesting character returns.
Complete with the game's least interesting uber-move that has all the fanboys fapping, despite always being outshadowed by at least half any game's Super Combos/Arts anyway.

I'm sorry, why is this exciting news again?

Please tell us how Capcom can satisfy you.

[Rioting Soul]

I knew that SGS had to be his ultra. Akuma is gonna be some shit with SA+SGS.

[Roundhousepunch]

ex demon flips ftw

wonder what those are good for

[Dandy J]

wonder what those are good for
instead of yellin across the isle "YO IM GONNA DO A MIXUP" u can just do that

[Cronopio]

Awesome, the SF universe's least interesting character returns.

Says someone with a Vega av.

[DarkNecrid]

Awesome, the SF universe's least interesting character returns.
Complete with the game's least interesting uber-move that has all the fanboys fapping, despite always being outshadowed by at least half any game's Super Combos/Arts anyway.

I'm sorry, why is this exciting news again?

Because its a new character and there are probably more (Wiz said characterS)?

I mean....*coughs* why couldn't they add someone way more interesting like Necro or Q or Twelve.

[MADma3str0]

i really wish fei long wasn't console exclusive.. so there at least would be more than one character with a rekka. it'd be sick to see him on the arcade scene again.

[Decadence]

How is the most straightforward Ryu/Ken clone a 'new' character?

Also, Vega hasn't just escaped from DBZ with an entire plot/concept/role/haircut that reads 'look how DBZ I am. I'm badass, honestly I am. Please believe me'.

Akuma is gonna be some shit with SA+SGS.

Yeah, now he has twice the moves that are overshadowed by half the game's other uber-moves.

I see it still looks crap, too. Even Ken's whiffed Shinryuken looks cooler.

[DragonPunchPimP]

We shouldn't complain everone knew that Akuma was in the game from the start . I am not to sure who the next one is maybe a SF 3 person ? I hope we get a older revamped Gen I liked Gen in A3

[Sousuke]

YES akuma is back! that entrance combined with the A2 remix is WIN!

[Sacr3D]

Akuma is a scrub's favorite toy.

Yay, he's SO badass. Yawn.

That's so freaking true. I have this friend of mine who kept complaining everytime about Akuma not being in SF4 yet he's a total fucking scrub. Can't do any supers and doesn't know half the moves of anyone. Doesn't even know that Akuma has a demon flip. Yet he DEMANDS Akuma being there so he can spam air fireballs.

[StuartHayden]

Meh.

[crazydiamond]

I don't like Akuma but even I'm not gonna complain that the arcade roster just got one character bigger.

Also Akuma only got scrubby when he stopped being a secret character. IMO he should never have been selectable straight off the bat on the character select screen.

I can't read Japanese but if he is selectable I'd rather people had to do some hardass code to get him rather than just have him as a time release.

And if he's not selectable. That's cool! It gives him some cred back.

And anyone who plays SF to any serious degree should know that he doesn't play like Ryu or Ken. :rolleyes:

[AzN_Skater]

Awesome, the SF universe's least interesting character returns.
Complete with the game's least interesting uber-move that has all the fanboys fapping, despite always being outshadowed by at least half any game's Super Combos/Arts anyway.

I'm sorry, why is this exciting news again?

Such a hater.

Good to see his return. Predictable, but they have to bridge that gap storywise somehow. Hah.

[ReKo]

I knew that SGS had to be his ultra. Akuma is gonna be some shit with SA+SGS.

Strange that the SGS doesn't conform to the camera panning around on startup. Maybe because of the effects when it actually connects?

At 0:46 on the Abel vid he does a double kick after the saving attack, which is different to his punch in the Ken one so do all characters have two of them or is it a new move?


Does anyone else think he looks kinda small compared to Ken? It's weird because if anything I'd have thought he'd be depicted as even more bulked up than the others.

[JoeMasters]

Strange that the SGS doesn't conform to the camera panning around on startup. Maybe because of the effects when it actually connects?

At 0:46 on the Abel vid he does a double kick after the saving attack, which is different to his punch in the Ken one so do all characters have two of them or is it a new move?


Does anyone else think he looks kinda small compared to Ken? It's weird because if anything I'd have thought he'd be depicted as even more bulked up than the others.

Yeah I figured the camera wouldnt do anything special until it connected because it would just be confusing.

As for the Double kick, it kinda looks like a target combo to me. His Focus Attack is that open palm thrust.

As for why he is shorter, im guessing its because of his stance. I have to check again.

[CaliLifeStyle]

Does anyone else think he looks kinda small compared to Ken? It's weird because if anything I'd have thought he'd be depicted as even more bulked up than the others.

He's the same size. I noticed he has a different stance than Ryu and Ken with his legs being spread farther apart. This gives the illusion he is shorter.

[JoeMasters]

He's the same size. I noticed he has a different stance than Ryu and Ken with his legs being spread farther apart. This gives the illusion he is shorter.

exactly. That and Ken's baggier clothes kinda make him look bigger then he actually is.

[Shungokustasu]

Welcome to the good life.

[Shodokan123]

His bg music is tooo sick.

it's music from cvs2's osaka stage

[DaFeetLee]

Passing the haterade around it seems.

Gouki is fine. Hopefully more characters are added soon.

[Nairdas]

Nice to see Akuma again. Already knew he was gonna be in the game because what street fighter without Akuma? SGS is nice looking. The cpu played him straight garbino in that clip though. I could have beaten him with my eyes closed.

[ReKo]

He's the same size. I noticed he has a different stance than Ryu and Ken with his legs being spread farther apart. This gives the illusion he is shorter.

True, but something just looks odd. Even on the official site if you compare the roid-rage Ryu/Ken to Akuma he looks, well, more normal...maybe a new art direction?

Interesting quirk that his red hadou blew through Ken's one - I'm guessing it only applies to the strong/fierce ones because of the multi-hit properties.

[Hatred Edge]

How is the most straightforward Ryu/Ken clone a 'new' character?

Also, Vega hasn't just escaped from DBZ with an entire plot/concept/role/haircut that reads 'look how DBZ I am. I'm badass, honestly I am. Please believe me'.



Yeah, now he has twice the moves that are overshadowed by half the game's other uber-moves.

I see it still looks crap, too. Even Ken's whiffed Shinryuken looks cooler.
Go be fucking emo somewhere else. God forbid people who actually like Akuma should be happy he's in the game.
That's so freaking true. I have this friend of mine who kept complaining everytime about Akuma not being in SF4 yet he's a total fucking scrub. Can't do any supers and doesn't know half the moves of anyone. Doesn't even know that Akuma has a demon flip. Yet he DEMANDS Akuma being there so he can spam air fireballs.
Do me a favor. When SFIV hits console beat the shit outta your friend in the game.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

Geez with the Akuma hate....I'm glad he's in, for sure. Only thing is....he's a boss? Will he be playable? If he's just going to be some cheap boss character that's major fail for Capcom.

[Dandy J]

That's so freaking true. I have this friend of mine who kept complaining everytime about Akuma not being in SF4 yet he's a total fucking scrub. Can't do any supers and doesn't know half the moves of anyone. Doesn't even know that Akuma has a demon flip. Yet he DEMANDS Akuma being there so he can spam air fireballs.
That's true but let's also remember that the best akumas are always the dopest shit. I.e. Choi and Nuki's akumas in cvs2, or like all the 3s akumas like jr, match, yuki otoko....kuroda lol. Always a blast to watch.

[*Onslaught*]

Another character gets revealed and more bitching from the cry babies.

[shatterstar]

Another character gets revealed and more bitching from the cry babies.
welcome to SRK.

[Kira Yamato]

Don't know if this has been posted already, but here's some HQ footage of akuma:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/253435.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/253558.html

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Yawn.

correct answer

[DaFeetLee]

Don't know if this has been posted already, but here's some HQ footage of akuma:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/253435.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/253558.html

Posted already. = |

[Projectjustice]

Is it me or is his C.RH 3s styled?

[BEWD]

Geez with the Akuma hate....I'm glad he's in, for sure. Only thing is....he's a boss? Will he be playable? If he's just going to be some cheap boss character that's major fail for Capcom.

No Gouki will ever top SvC Shin Gouki/Akuma, well except ST Shin Gouki/Akuma.

Anyways, I'm just glad we have another character in the game, I already knew he'd be in there though in some form, I don't see what all the whining is about.:rolleyes:

[Irish-Ken]

Yawn.

Fuck Akuma.

Akuma is a scrub's favorite toy.

Yay, he's SO badass. Yawn.

Awesome, the SF universe's least interesting character returns.
Complete with the game's least interesting uber-move that has all the fanboys fapping, despite always being outshadowed by at least half any game's Super Combos/Arts anyway.

I'm sorry, why is this exciting news again?

http://johngushue.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/29/moms_minivan.jpg

[Roundhousepunch]

Im not a big gouki fan, but its cool he is in the game. Like for example in 3s, he is really fun to watch, creates lots of interesting situations. Just a bad-ass shoto with tons of options and air attack madness, nothing less nothing more, good addition to the char rooster

[Dreams-Visions]

OP updated with all links posted in the thread.

[Jigsaw]

That's the remix from A2?! That's hot.

that entrance combined with the A2 remix is WIN!

it's music from cvs2's osaka stage

The music is Gouki's theme from ST.

[debs]

i wish akuma was the same size as abel...
he kinda looks like he's wearing shoulder pads or something. they gotta clean up his "sprite."

[Jigsaw]

That Ken v Gouki vid gives a much clearer view of the Shun Goku Satsu screen. The kanji in the back read 一瞬千撃, "one instant, thousand strikes".

[Akutabi Gamma]

YES akuma is back! that entrance combined with the A2 remix is WIN!
Of course he's back he was already confirmed for the game ever since the OG 8 were confirmed.

[MidgetT]

i see he still dies with the flick of a wrist.

[altergenesis]

Oh, please, there's nothing wrong with Akuma. But, people always are complaining, too many shoto-clones; what the hell's wrong with not being hyped over seeing Akuma. Seriously. Don't have to get all angry about it.

[Hatred Edge]

Oh, please, there's nothing wrong with Akuma. But, people always are complaining, too many shoto-clones; what the hell's wrong with not being hyped over seeing Akuma. Seriously.

There's nothing wrong with not being hyped about Akuma returning. Honestly I felt the same way about Gief/Chun/Ryu/Vega(claw) so I understand. You could hate Akuma with every fiber of your being for all I or anyone care. So you don't give a shit that Akuma is in. Fine. No one says you're wrong for that. People like who they like.

But it's another thing to start bitching about it. It's annoying bullshit just to shit up in a thread because you don't like a character. I hate Chun Li but did I or anyone who doesn't like her go bitching about it in her thread? No.

[MADma3str0]

i think he's cool in the game as he has an integral part to the story. i don't hate characters so much as facing a good one. like a good chun is irritating. a good akuma... good god... mixups up the ass. i agree with some other people though.. i'd like him to be bigger.. not taller as what i'm hearing is his stance makes him look smaller. i mean physically bigger... more muscular. makes him more intimidating.

i'm glad everyone's back though for the most part. it'll be cool to see what the SA system does for akuma.

[The Epidemic]

raping demon looks dope.

[JoeMasters]

That Ken v Gouki vid gives a much clearer view of the Shun Goku Satsu screen. The kanji in the back read 一瞬千撃, "one instant, thousand strikes".

wow thats pretty awesome. Thanks for the translation.:lovin:

@ projectjustice: yeah its 3S style sweep. And its really fast :looney:

[altergenesis]

snip

Well, I didn't exactly say much so, I'll return to my previous point.

Fuck Akuma.

Because I will spam air fireballs and you will be very angry.

[Ultima]

re: haters

If you think there's plenty bitching now, just wait until Gouken is revealed and the "OLOL SFIV King of Shotos" comments start. >:|

[AzN_Skater]

re: haters

If you think there's plenty bitching now, just wait until Gouken is revealed and the "OLOL SFIV King of Shotos" comments start. >:|

Can't wait. It will be a wonderful time on SRK.

[altergenesis]

Don't forget the real King of Shotos.


Dan.

[Dreams-Visions]

Well, I didn't exactly say much so, I'll return to my previous point.

Fuck Akuma.

Because I will spam air fireballs and you will be very angry.

I'm really starting to get the feeling you don't like Akuma. lol

[WillGabriel]

Ok, hang on a second. I'm missing something.

Is this a game update? Or was he in there all along and nobody did well enough to fight him yet?

[Wasted]

raping demon looks dope.

Doesn't look like it did too much damage though :(

[altergenesis]

I'm really starting to get the feeling you don't like Akuma. lol

Nah, I don't hate him. I'm just really unexcited that's all. I would like to see a character with a little more personality.

[vasili10]

That Ken v Gouki vid gives a much clearer view of the Shun Goku Satsu screen. The kanji in the back read 一瞬千撃, "one instant, thousand strikes".

May be a Ryu Final tribute.

Ok, hang on a second. I'm missing something.

Is this a game update? Or was he in there all along and nobody did well enough to fight him yet?

A combination of both; he was unlocked in beginner's mode according to the latest official SF4 blog entry.

[Dreams-Visions]

Nah, I don't hate him. I'm just really unexcited that's all. I would like to see a character with a little more personality.

Dudley FTW?

[JoeMasters]

Maki FTW?


Fixed :woot:

[Jimmy Bones]

Awww Fuck Yeah.

[archetype]

Yawn.

You summed up everything about this shit.

Akuma has been around for more than a decade in tons of games. How surprised do they think we are at the point with making up come all out the shadows so you can fight him etc. etc.

The hidden character aspect is played out as fuck too. It was dope in ST, it was aight in xvsf it was tolerable in alpha but anything past that is just super played out.

Lets get a new character thats all secretive and super strong and shit

They could have just made this dude a regular ass character like he's been in tons of other games

Shit is sad.

[Dreams-Visions]

^ your avatar is win.

Fixed :woot:
:wgrin:

[sim0n]

is it confirmed that he's a playable character? it looks like we've only seen AI vids.

[JoeMasters]

You summed up everything about this shit.

Akuma has been around for more than a decade in tons of games. How surprised do they think we are at the point with making up come all out the shadows so you can fight him etc. etc.

The hidden character aspect is played out as fuck too. It was dope in ST, it was aight in xvsf it was tolerable in alpha but anything past that is just super played out.

Lets get a new character thats all secretive and super strong and shit

They could have just made this dude a regular ass character like he's been in tons of other games

Shit is sad.

People arent suprised, they are excited. Everyone knew it was going to happen, but the fact that they released him as a secret boss in arcade OLD SCHOOL style is too good.

As for a new "secretive" character, what makes you think that character would hype up fans more then Akuma does? A NEW hidden evil boss? It doesn't make any sense at all man. :confused:

Edit: @sim0n Nah as of now its all AI man. Hidden boss status.

@dreams: your an ass :D

[Dreams-Visions]

is it confirmed that he's a playable character? it looks like we've only seen AI vids.is it even possible that he'd be in the game as a non-playable character? seems pretty implausible.

[xXx$HIN-GIEFxXx]

His air fireball and dive kick look way too slow but besides that he looks awesome.

[DaFeetLee]

Don't forget the real King of Shotos.


Dan.

:rofl:

.....

:shake:

[CaliLifeStyle]

re: haters

If you think there's plenty bitching now, just wait until Gouken is revealed and the "OLOL SFIV King of Shotos" comments start. >:|

I hate to see what would happen if they made Gouken a charge character.

[SonicRain]

What a boring news,
only fun for scrubs or newly 15yo who thinks they know SF because they saw it on the cover of EGM... fuck that.

everyone knew it, nothing secret. Boring.

[Sousuke]

The music is Gouki's theme from ST.

i remember it's original from ST i am just way more familiar with A2 that's why i always think of A2 when i hear the theme.

[Master Chibi]

Who gives a shit.

Great, another damn shoto on the list.

Hooray, let's suck up the life of this game even further.

[Ghostal]

QQ more please, faggots

[shoo]

Another character gets revealed and more bitching from the cry babies.

welcome to the internet.

fixed that all nice and deep like

[DaFeetLee]

So when a new character gets announced, people are going to cry more until they get every single character?

Or is it that you dudes are fine with such a lackluster roster?

[VEGA_OMEGA]

So he`s time released

[Wantonx]

I have wanted akuma to have ex moves since 2I and I am very excited to see this. Too bad we wont see it in ga until it is on console

[Frantastic23]

Shin Gouki's bgm in CVS2 is boss

[Sacr3D]

Who gives a shit.

Great, another damn shoto on the list.

Hooray, let's suck up the life of this game even further.

I hope he's just AI controlled only. We don't need more Shotos. Like I said before Ken are Ryu ARE WAY more than enough. Now not to say I don't like Akuma though but I rather see more original characters than shotos (even Dan). I still love this game to death though.

[AzN_Skater]

I don't know why people complain so much about shotos when their playstyles are completely different from each other.

[BEWD]

Still a meh at his ultra being the SGS. I mean shouldn't he have Misogi by now?(instead of splitting him up into S.Gouki, just have his hair go white or something during the attack.) I know he didn't get the Kongoukokuretsuzan until SFIII, but atleast give him one of S.Gouki's moves.

[Radiantsilvergun3]

Still a meh at his ultra being the SGS. I mean shouldn't he have Misogi by now?(instead of splitting him up into S.Gouki, just have his hair go white or something during the attack.) I know he didn't get the Kongoukokuretsuzan until SFIII, but atleast give him one of S.Gouki's moves.He can double air fireball now thats a Shin move is it not?

[Hatred Edge]

But it's an EX move only. He can't use it like Shin Gouki does.

[The Epidemic]

I don't know why people complain so much about shotos when their playstyles are completely different from each other.

I honestly dont know why they complain so much either. They cry when their character isnt in the game. Then, when said character is annonced they nit-pick the shit out of the design/special ect. Fuckin clowns...

And another thing why are ppl complaining that theres too many shotos? When more than half of you niggas know the only characters your gonna play is Ken and Chun! So what difference does it make?? GTFO and STFU....bitches.

[ninja_velmor]

4 shotos. They better add Dudely to make up for this.

[Master Chibi]

I complain because I can you idiots. I wanted new characters, and all I got was 5 new ones (which I guess I'll need to be content with). I don't give a shit about Akuma, I never have, and I never will. This was just more lost potential that could have been put into another real surprise that we haven't literally seen done in every damn title since ST.

[Gutter Trash]

I don't know why people complain so much about shotos when their playstyles are completely different from each other.

it's not the style that is in question, it's the quantity of same styled characters.

in the hayday of 2D fighters, pallet swap characters were created to save time and money.

Now that the models and animation are in 3D, it's faster to model and animate then it was to create pixel art.

I do not mind Akuma, I can tolerate him because the overall roster is surprisingly large for a first iteration of an SF sequal............ but Dan? Dan is a waste

[CFAY]

i'm not fanboy excited about akuma showing up but its cool to see him in the game. besides his ability to throw two fireballs in the air, i dont see why he cant be playable. all his other moves seem easy to deal with and he takes damage like 3S.

[Dreams-Visions]

I honestly dont know why they complain so much either. They cry when their character isnt in the game. Then, when said character is annonced they nit-pick the shit out of the design/special ect. Fuckin clowns...

And another thing why are ppl complaining that theres too many shotos? When more than half of you niggas know the only characters your gonna play is Ken and Chun! So what difference does it make?? GTFO and STFU....bitches.

QFT!

4 shotos. They better add Dudely to make up for this.I hope so too. The more diversity the merrier. I know my boys would L-O-V-E to see Dudley in this game.

I complain because I can you idiots. I wanted new characters, and all I got was 5 new ones (which I guess I'll need to be content with). I don't give a shit about Akuma, I never have, and I never will. This was just more lost potential that could have been put into another real surprise that we haven't literally seen done in every damn title since ST.

There is yet time, is there not? They already announced 2 exclusive characters for consoles. And we all know consoles now have the "downloadable content" aspect.

Maybe they'll add a few more characters before the game releases on 360/PS3.

Maybe they'll toss a couple more in for free via DLC.

Maybe they'll milk us for more money to download them (like SCIV is about to).

Don't sweat it just yet.

[Master Chibi]

Well I'm already maining C. Viper to begin with, because I said hey, new game, new expierence right?

But we'll see, I'm playing this regardless of how much more they just make this into a reunion special.

[Nairdas]

I honestly dont know why they complain so much either. They cry when their character isnt in the game. Then, when said character is annonced they nit-pick the shit out of the design/special ect. Fuckin clowns...

And another thing why are ppl complaining that theres too many shotos? When more than half of you niggas know the only characters your gonna play is Ken and Chun! So what difference does it make?? GTFO and STFU....bitches.Co-sign this shit, but fuck Ken users. All about Ryu.

[General Deamond]

I don't know why people complain so much about shotos when their playstyles are completely different from each other.

To the average gamer who isn't hardcore about the SF series...shotos are the same except for some small differences. Some special moves are multi-hits, others aren't. Some hypers are different than others, etc. but fundamentally they are the same. People will find different aspects of each character that they like/dislike but if you can play Ryu you can play Ken and Akuma and Dan and so forth. No real diversity if you ask me.

I'm not bitching though because it was very obvious that Akuma would be in SF4 from the start. It would have been a real surpise if someone like R. Mika were to make the game.

[Saotome Kaneda]

When more than half of you niggas know the only characters your gonna play is Ken and Chun!

If you haven't been keeping score, Ken and Chun suck now, it's all about Gief, Rufus, and Sagat.

[altergenesis]

What I don't understand is why people get mad at someone for having an opinion of their own.

[Indy]

Welcome to SRK?

Sawada for the home version!

[fistoftheryustar]

SRK or not, how was there not going to be any bitching when revealing new characters?

[Dreams-Visions]

Welcome to SRK?

Sawada for the home version!
thank you. I feel welcome. :wgrin:

[Ghostal]

If you haven't been keeping score, Ken and Chun suck now, it's all about Gief, Rufus, and Sagat.

And Blanka.
Blanka is beastly.
Literally and figuratively.

Also, lmfao at all the people with Rufus AVs talking about how Gouki is scrub-friendly and shouldn't be in this game.
hahahahahahaha

[Mixah]

I will officially be playing SF4.

[Rioting Soul]

I complain because I can you idiots. I wanted new characters, and all I got was 5 new ones (which I guess I'll need to be content with). I don't give a shit about Akuma, I never have, and I never will. This was just more lost potential that could have been put into another real surprise that we haven't literally seen done in every damn title since ST.

I want more new characters(4 playable new characters isn't enough) as well and I was never an Akuma player(HDR might change this) but Akuma was always going to be in the game.

[bokchoy]

wow he still takes damage like a sissy little bitch.

[deadfrog]

I will officially be playing SF4.

I'm quoting this because Mixah is awesome.

[MADma3str0]

wow he still takes damage like a sissy little bitch.

indeed...for some who's supposed to be so badass... you'd think he could take a hit.

[Mixah]

I'm quoting this because Mixah is awesome.

Well, I had made a comment a while ago and was flamed for it that I wouldn't play SF4 if Akuma wasn't in it. It turned into a joke amongst some of my friends, so I figured I'd make another stupid comment... Everybody knows that I'd have played it.. Shit, I've been part of this site now for four years as a member and six if you count two old user handles (Hadoken King and something from a LONG time ago that I can't remember... like fireballguy or something stupid)

[JoeMasters]

Well I'm already maining C. Viper to begin with, because I said hey, new game, new expierence right?

But we'll see, I'm playing this regardless of how much more they just make this into a reunion special.

Im sorry but, what the hell did you expect? Ono said AT THE VERY START that he was going back to SF2 roots. So there were suppose to be many returning characters. I for one like all of the new characters thus far. I agree 1 or 2 more would be great, but roll with the fucking times man. There have always been at least 3 or 4 shotos in every SF game. Its practicly trademark. And it doesn't bother me one bit. the game is still fairly diverse.

Co-sign this shit, but fuck Ken users. All about Ryu.

Fuck you back:arazz:

[Ultima]

Vega_Omega:

I don't think he's time-released in the classic way. I heard that Capcom simply released the code to unlock him on 15/08/08.

[Dreams-Visions]

I hope they have one or two more to unlock. :)

[MAGUS1234]

maybe cammy

[KING]

4 shotos. They better add Dudely to make up for this.

how about just an alternate Dudley costume on Balrog? :rofl:

hey, it might actually happen!

[ninja_velmor]

how about just an alternate Dudley costume on Balrog? :rofl:

hey, it might actually happen!

nooooooo. I want a boxer off.

[Henaki]

dudley is a shoto

[KORYNTHYAN]

Is it just me or is it all just.....boooooring? Akuma. Yeay. I used to like him but this
version of him seems old and worthless. I'm WAYYYYY more interested in Sheng Long.
:sad:

~K.

[Hol Horse]

wow he still takes damage like a sissy little bitch.

well this definitely points towards him being selectable. No need to give damage handicap to a boss-only character.

[DaFeetLee]

Yeah. SFIV has a severe lack of new characters. But hey. If they want to add old characters, let them. It's better than having 0 characters.

[Rioting Soul]

dudley is a shoto

Having a dp is the sole requirement now?

[Fadedsun303]

Because its a new character and there are probably more (Wiz said characterS)?

I mean....*coughs* why couldn't they add someone way more interesting like Necro or Q or Twelve.

I find Necro more interesting than Akuma. As a character and to play as.

It's cool that Akuma is in the game, though. I'm still waiting for a character that I wasn't expecting besides the new ones.

[Jion_Wansu]

And then there might be a condition that you have to meet where if you beat Gouki a certain way, etc. We might see Gouken!!!

[xXx$HIN-GIEFxXx]

4 shotos. They better add Dudely to make up for this.

Yes, this game needs some dignity.

[Lake Road Gville]

Yes, this game needs some dignity.
:rofl:

[Duck Strong]

Theirs already a thread with all this plus 3 videos of akuma. I don't think theirs a need for another thread of akuma, simple change the tittle of the other one. here. http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=162134

theirs != there's

[UltraDavid]

Every time an existing character returns to SF4 I think it's unfortunate because it's a slot in the game that could have gone to a new interesting character instead of a character we've all played in a dozen different iterations over a period of nearly two decades. I think this is especially unfortunate when it's just another mildly different take on a basic formula that now amounts to nearly a fifth of all announced characters up as more if Sakura or Gouken make it in. From the short vids it looks like he might have some differences compared to previous versions (in that he looks crappier, for example), and hopefully he really will be different, but I guess we'll have to wait and see on that.

Pretty obvious move, I think we all expected him to be in this game, but in my opinion it's a bad thing from a gameplay perspective. Akuma's taking up a spot that someone more unique, whether new or returning, could have taken instead (and crap, two of Ryu, Ken, and Dan are doing the same).

[DarkNecrid]

Every time an existing character returns to SF4 I think it's unfortunate because it's a slot in the game that could have gone to a new interesting character instead of a character we've all played in a dozen different iterations over a period of nearly two decades. I think this is especially unfortunate when it's just another mildly different take on a basic formula that now amounts to nearly a fifth of all announced characters up as more if Sakura or Gouken make it in. From the short vids it looks like he might have some differences compared to previous versions (in that he looks crappier, for example), and hopefully he really will be different, but I guess we'll have to wait and see on that.

Pretty obvious move, I think we all expected him to be in this game, but in my opinion it's a bad thing from a gameplay perspective. Akuma's taking up a spot that someone more unique, whether new or returning, could have taken instead (and crap, two of Ryu, Ken, and Dan are doing the same).

Maybe if they devoted an entire team to making one character at a time, but Capcom would have to be pretty terrible as a company if they did that. No game company ever devotes their ENTIRE TEAM to focusing on one aspect of each part of the design at a time (if they did, games would never come out!). All XX artists aren't making one peice of art at a time, etc. They split the teams up to cover more ground in less time, especially with bigger teams. It is pretty unlikely as hell (especially for CAPCOM of all companies) that he is taking up a spot that would have went to someone else, y'know?

[kane_warhead]

The reaction to this is way opposite when SF III first came. Everybody complained that the cast are all new.

[Sacr3D]

The reaction to this is way opposite when SF III first came. Everybody complained that the cast are all new.

I remember when I barfed when I saw Twelve , Q and Remy. Well, can't say I like them now either though. I like the cast and Necro grew up on me.

[BEWD]

The reaction to this is way opposite when SF III first came. Everybody complained that the cast are all new.

^Proof that no matter what you do, you can never please the "fans".

[TrueSephiroth]

Gouki's in, nice, fuck all the bitching, he doesn't look that strong "so far", however give it time, or let someone like Choi get a hold of Gouki, give him a few months. Then everyone will be like "omgosh...Gouki is RapE!" or some shit like that.

I'd rather see old familiar faces, then some new "wierd looking" new character that will most likely share similarities to an older character's playstyle who obviously could have done the same job, but much better.

Gouki's ST Theme is rocking, and I'm glad to hear it again, because for me oldschool SF music truly unique to the stage, and especially the character and their persona.

We all knew Gouki was going to be in it, it was stated so awhile back, so let's see who else is gonna make it, whether old school or new, I'm game for SF:IV. Lastly, we all have to remember folks, there is still the console release yet, so we will obviously get more then what we'll see on arcade, hopefully not too many more characters as well, or it'd get too crazy.

Can't wait til he's playable and people start breaking him down to see his gameplan, obviously rushdown tactics ftw.

[Radiantsilvergun3]

i know right. Poor Capcom can't win. They give us all BRAND NEW CHARACTERS and everyone bitches so they bring back all the old characters and everyone bitches. We as gamers don't even know what the fuck we want.

[Master Chibi]

Im sorry but, what the hell did you expect? Ono said AT THE VERY START that he was going back to SF2 roots.

This isn't going back to SF2 roots, this is pretty much SF2 period.

Big fucking shit Akuma is in this game. They should have recreated SF2 all over again for a new generation just so they cou---

Oh wait, never mind.

:looney:

[VariantX]

Yeah.....its almost as if they were lying in wait just waiting for this moment to come out and complain about something that everyone knew was going to happen months ago. I expected too much for people to have gotten it out of their system by now..

[MADma3str0]

how about just an alternate Dudley costume on Balrog? :rofl:

hey, it might actually happen!

i ACTUALLY think that really could happen now that you mention it. i mean i thought i saw somewhere that guile's alternate was charlie's outfit so why the hell not?

[Ghostal]

This isn't going back to SF2 roots, this is pretty much SF2 period.

Yup, it's pretty much SF2 but with new characters, 2.5D graphics, the Saving Attack system and EX moves. In other words, it went back to it's roots and tweaked it, like Ono pretty much said the game was.

Fucking bitches be crying like they canceled Black Friday.

[Master Chibi]

Oh give me a break, it went back to its roots and tweaked it my ass.

What the fuck is HD Remix for then? Ex-moves? Holy shit, I've never seen that before.

Good for you, quoting Ono.

I'll keep complaining about it being stale before it's even new to begin with.

[DropOff]

I wanna play sf4 ok. I just wanna throw fire balls and shit in a new game, is that so hard? You guys sound like smash kids. "OMG TOO MANY CLONES, SAKURAAAAAAAAAAAAII"

Does it really matter how many karate guys there are? You don't have to pick them. It would be dumb if this was a brand new game and there were 4 generic karate guys but since this is an established franchises, and Ryu and Ken are pretty much lifers, the fans wanted Dan so bad and Akuma is just a no brainer.

Whatever, you can wait for Super Street Fighter 4 but I'm gonna play this shit first chance I get, no complaints.

[Master Chibi]

I've already played it, and I like C. Viper alot. I'll be playing this to death with everyone else when my local arcade gets it.

But I'll be damned if I can't just complain about shit I don't like. I'll suck it up once it hits, but for now, fuck it.

[Kajiki]

Hmm. So, was the addition of Akuma to the game a time-release thing (meaning he has been hidden in the game since the arcade release)? Or did Capcom patch/update the game today? Does anybody know???

If it was an update i think that really sets a good precedent for the future of SF4. I would like to see the arcade version of the game get updated with the new characters and stages when the console version comes out. It would be great if capcom would dynamically balance the game in future updates too. So, if what happened on friday was an actual update, i feel hopeful for added content and balancing in the future. =)

[Akutabi Gamma]

dudley is a shoto

Show me a Dudley match where the Rose makes a good projectile and I will believe you.

[Pat the Great]

i've managed to get Akuma pretty consistently so far. i don't really know how much super/ultra/perfect finishes mean, but not losing a round until seth and finishing him with a ultra or a super in the last round seem to do it.

[Dreams-Visions]

Hmm. So, was the addition of Akuma to the game a time-release thing (meaning he has been hidden in the game since the arcade release)? Or did Capcom patch/update the game today? Does anybody know???

If it was an update i think that really sets a good precedent for the future of SF4. I would like to see the arcade version of the game get updated with the new characters and stages when the console version comes out. It would be great if capcom would dynamically balance the game in future updates too. So, if what happened on friday was an actual update, i feel hopeful for added content and balancing in the future. =)
Expect character updates over time.

Expect to pay some small fee for the additional characters.

[Tigerboi]

SRK: mentality #1: Akuma's back! omg want. It was obvious he was going to show up in the game anyway, and perhaps maybe I'm getting too excited over ONE character and fapping over a super that's hardly ever extremely useful, but omg want!

Srk: mentality #2: Scrubs like akuma.....therefore, to satisfy my over saturated pussy internet toughguy status, I will not like him! So, to back this mindset, fuck Akuma! He's a Ryu and Ken clone despite having a totally different play style than them in damn near every game! Is there even a point to me saying all this? I guess not, but I will anyway, CUZ I AINT NO SCRUB!11!!

Tigerboi mentality (write this in your bible): You are all gay. But this news, that was obviously coming, is pretty cool.

[felineki]

Looks like EX air fireball is the Shin style double. His voice is different, seems kind of strange at first after hearing him with the same voice since Alpha 1. Nice to hear his classic BGM, too.

[Dreams-Visions]

SRK: mentality #1: Akuma's back! omg want. It was obvious he was going to show up in the game anyway, and perhaps maybe I'm getting too excited over ONE character and fapping over a super that's hardly ever extremely useful, but omg want!

Srk: mentality #2: Scrubs like akuma.....therefore, to satisfy my over saturated pussy internet toughguy status, I will not like him! So, to back this mindset, fuck Akuma! He's a Ryu and Ken clone despite having a totally different play style than them in damn near every game! Is there even a point to me saying all this? I guess not, but I will anyway, CUZ I AINT NO SCRUB!11!!

Tigerboi mentality (write this in your bible): You are all gay. But this news, that was obviously coming, is pretty cool.

why...I think I'm going to like it here.

*kicks off shoes*

[Adam Warlock]

raging fucking demon 1:30
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IPYfFqx_tE)

roflmao@the edit. "You know you done fucked up, right?"

[felineki]

What the fuck is HD Remix for then?Ruining classic artwork and music? :razzy:

[JoeMasters]

I hope some new videos come out today. With Akuma's cpu set higher -_- I wanna see what combos he pulls off after he lands a FA.

[shinblanka]

Yeaa the alpha 2 bgm set the whole scene for me. Now how do you unlock gouken!?!? It seems like akuma's fpunch fb ticks through normal projectiles and hits for 2 hits! That's nasty people. Also having the 2x EX air fb is really nasty also. There's a resason why akuma didn't have ex moves in the sf3 series! Now add gouken and oro and the best fighters in the sf world will be uin sf4!

[Ghostal]

SRK: mentality #1: Akuma's back! omg want. It was obvious he was going to show up in the game anyway, and perhaps maybe I'm getting too excited over ONE character and fapping over a super that's hardly ever extremely useful, but omg want!

Srk: mentality #2: Scrubs like akuma.....therefore, to satisfy my over saturated pussy internet toughguy status, I will not like him! So, to back this mindset, fuck Akuma! He's a Ryu and Ken clone despite having a totally different play style than them in damn near every game! Is there even a point to me saying all this? I guess not, but I will anyway, CUZ I AINT NO SCRUB!11!!

Tigerboi mentality (write this in your bible): You are all gay. But this news, that was obviously coming, is pretty cool.

Your mentality has already been passed around.
But ZOMG UR SO original dewd.
So weaksauce lite.

[SN3S]

Ruining classic artwork and music? :razzy:

But I like HDR's music and sprites... (now the backgrounds, too little frames of animation, looks choppy TBH)

[Duck Strong]

well this definitely points towards him being selectable. No need to give damage handicap to a boss-only character.

Shame on you, you have no business talking sense in this thread.

[Ghostal]

He shouldn't be talking sense in the SF4 forums to begin with, we have General Discussion and Fighting Game Discussion...for...oh.

Awwwkward.

[Humbag]

dudley is a shoto

wah wah whaaaat? :mad:

[Kaepora]

Awesome! A integral character to the SF series finally returns.

He seemed pretty weak compared to the previous Akumas. I guess that means he's gonna be more balanced this time around. Also, CPU Akuma was definitely set on easy, that was some really sub-par playing.

[Joe The Condor]

He looks great. Rage needs working. They should change it up, and make it more epic.

[Kaepora]

He looks great. Rage needs working. They should change it up, and make it more epic.

The game's already released. They can't change much at this point

[Joe The Condor]

The game's already released. They can't change much at this point

How many versions of SF3 are there? :wgrin:

[altergenesis]

I liked the fact SFIII had all new characters. :sad: Not everyone thought that was a bad thing.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

I just wish they made him bigger. He looks very small. Why is it that every time he shows up anywhere outside of a SF game, he's HUGE but when he's in a game he's either the same size as Ryu/Ken, or smaller. I just hope they tweaked him so we can actually use him.

[ReXXXSoprano]

roflmao@the edit. "You know you done fucked up, right?"

I'm glad everybody is finding the edit funny. It was just random and I just had a feeling it would enhance what was going on. And Bill Duke is just beyond broken.

[PENETRATOR]

The only way they know to balance Akuma is to give him really bad stamina, so it kind of makes sense that they'd try to paint him as this more agile rather than gigantic fighter, otherwise you'd have a monstrosity of bodybuilding that collapses when the wind blows too hard.

[B&B]

I just wish they made him bigger. He looks very small. Why is it that every time he shows up anywhere outside of a SF game, he's HUGE but when he's in a game he's either the same size as Ryu/Ken, or smaller. I just hope they tweaked him so we can actually use him.

He's a giant in SF Alpha the movie.

[BEWD]

@Penetrator: Like STHD Gouki?

[Strider2k2]

Boring news, but expected.

And oh yeah, the Raging Demon looked like ass in that video. It should've been made to look more dramatic.

[Sacr3D]

Boring news, but expected.

And oh yeah, the Raging Demon looked like ass in that video. It should've been made to look more dramatic.

You've just ignited a big fire now.

[Saotome Kaneda]

He's a giant in SF Alpha the movie.
So were Sakura's bubz. There were many things wrong with that anime.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

So were Sakura's bubz. There were many things wrong with that anime.

They were? I remember her being her regular flat chested self. Hmm. Either way, I do think he was WAY too big in the Alpha anime, but I always thought he should be bigger then any other shoto, even if it's not by much.

[Alternate275]

I liked the fact SFIII had all new characters. :sad: Not everyone thought that was a bad thing.

Somebody who understands :sad:

[DropOff]

NEED TO CLEAN UP THE GRAPHIX ON LEVEL 2 YO.

You realize that the raging demon has always been WHITE SCREEN WHAT THE FUCK, OH SHIT HE'S HITTING ME WHATS GOING ON.

Of course it's not like that when it happens nowadays. We've been spoiled by outrageous super moves. The white screen is there so you can imagine what ever the fuck you want while it's there. Maybe you're just a little BITCH with no imagination. :rofl:

[The Blackstar]

raging demon didnt look as well as i hoped :tdown:
Agreed. Huge letdown.

[Saotome Kaneda]

You realize that the raging demon has always been WHITE SCREEN WHAT THE FUCK, OH SHIT HE'S HITTING ME WHATS GOING ON.

They show you what happens in Pocket Fighter.

[PENETRATOR]

@Penetrator: Like STHD Gouki?

YEP

Also I'm a bit dissapointed by the Raging Demon too, symbol on his back was kinda cool but a lot of them all over in mid-air? Nigga got his own holo laser lightshow now or something?

[00000000]

I, for one, welcomed SFIII's cast but I s'pose that's neither here nor there. Anyway, the current SF team has proven that they can make interesting NEW characters that are likable along with bringing new play styles (well, basically). The actual new characters, C.Viper, El Fuerte, Rufus, and Abel are a good step in the right direction. Hell, characters from the other SF games were good ideas too. Akuma's in the game, it was inevitable, but I personally believe that more Shoto is less!

Here's hoping they mix it up in the future.

[Rioting Soul]

Of course it's not like that when it happens nowadays. We've been spoiled by outrageous super moves. The white screen is there so you can imagine what ever the fuck you want while it's there. Maybe you're just a little BITCH with no imagination. :rofl:
Lol. Ppl expecting Brutal God Project or some shit.

[Ouroborus]

i'm sorta glad hes back but there are better characters to take his place and why is fei long console only?

[fistoftheryustar]

Boring news, but expected.

And oh yeah, the Raging Demon looked like ass in that video. It should've been made to look more dramatic.

I agree it ws pretty plain. The way they showed it just reminded me of SF EX type SGS's.

I think the game is a little rough, but lets hope they still do tweaking after the release for future versions

[Saotome Kaneda]

i'm sorta glad hes back but there are better characters to take his place and why is fei long console only?
Because.



Just cuz they'll be on console doesn't mean they WON'T be added to the arcade afterwards.

[Jimmy Bones]

Double post?

[Saotome Kaneda]

Double post?
It happens when I post from work here. Dunno why.

[Ansatsuken-TKD]

Looks like EX air fireball is the Shin style double. His voice is different, seems kind of strange at first after hearing him with the same voice since Alpha 1. Nice to hear his classic BGM, too.

Yeah you're right... His voice is done by Taketora now. He actually does sound a lot like Tomomichi Nishimura but slightly younger or more energetic.

I compared all of Gouki's music from all the games he's in and it definitely sounds the most like the Alpha 1 & 2 music, as well.

[TaZaR]

i'm sorta glad hes back but there are better characters to take his place and why is fei long console only?
Not console only, he'll be in the PC version too...





:wgrin:

[huge balls]

NEED TO CLEAN UP THE GRAPHIX ON LEVEL 2 YO.

You realize that the raging demon has always been WHITE SCREEN WHAT THE FUCK, OH SHIT HE'S HITTING ME WHATS GOING ON.

Of course it's not like that when it happens nowadays. We've been spoiled by outrageous super moves. The white screen is there so you can imagine what ever the fuck you want while it's there. Maybe you're just a little BITCH with no imagination. :rofl:

i play chun in 3s and when I get hit with that raging daemon, I imagine chun getting bent over and gang raped doggy style. That's why I call it the rape in the dark move. I never even knew it was called raging daemon. Wow do I have an imagination.

[AlphaDragoon02]

i play chun in 3s and when I get hit with that raging daemon, I imagine chun getting bent over and gang raped doggy style. That's why I call it the rape in the dark move. I never even knew it was called raging daemon. Wow do I have an imagination.

Well technically it's not even called the Raging Demon. The actual name is the Shun Goku Satsu (Instant Hell Murder translated), but we all like Raging Demon from back when they didn't have a proper name for it so it stuck. :rofl:

[Mixah]

in the alpha movie it was the dark hadou, wasn't it?

anyways... they wouldn't have allowed it to be called "instant hell murder" in the usa anyway... shit, they wouldn't let "god rugal" pass.

[dragonJAB]

here's a vid of akuma vs bison.
http://vidy.livedoor.biz/archives/795304.html?id=sm4313219

[vasili10]

in the alpha movie it was the dark hadou, wasn't it?

anyways... they wouldn't have allowed it to be called "instant hell murder" in the usa anyway... shit, they wouldn't let "god rugal" pass.

Nope.

I dunno about that, after all they let Rufus' Messiah kick go.

[Hatred Edge]

That's different. Attacks unless an obvious relation to religion like Moses Ocean Divider tend to be okay. Unlike character names like God Rugal and God Gundam and Devil Gundam which get changed. What baffles me though is how Devil May Cry and God Hand were allowed to pass.

[Mixah]

That's different. Attacks unless an obvious relation to religion like Moses Ocean Divider tend to be okay. Unlike character names like God Rugal and God Gundam and Devil Gundam which get changed. What baffles me though is how Devil May Cry and God Hand were allowed to pass.

or Devil and Angel in Tekken?

[JoeMasters]

here's a vid of akuma vs bison.
http://vidy.livedoor.biz/archives/795304.html?id=sm4313219

thanks for that. Still no trademark hurricane shoryu combos :/ Cant wait to see what the demon flip can do.

[Mixah]

thanks for that. Still no trademark hurricane shoryu combos :/ Cant wait to see what the demon flip can do.

can akuma do that in every game he's in (minus the versus games, doh!)

( i never played him in A1 and I stopped A3 after about half an hour, so I didn't even try... never played Second Impact either.)

[Lvl.3]

Agreed. Huge letdown.

Yeah, I was expecting something epic like flames of hell (3s). What bother me more is his weak physic, with his skinny arms and beak like nose. Someone on the capcom-unity board did a nice PS job on what he should look like.

EX air fireballs will dominate, let them absorb them with a FA, and then eat a Raging Demon/ Shun Goku Satsu.


EDIT... quick question for SRK japan. is this game still doing well there? I heard interest has really died down on SF4? Such as empty machines, arcade vendors not ordering many kits.

[Dreams-Visions]

here's a vid of akuma vs bison.
http://vidy.livedoor.biz/archives/795304.html?id=sm4313219


added to the OP.

[CB]

I think I just exploded.

in the pants?

[Mixah]

in the pants?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkqqMPPg2VI

[CB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkqqMPPg2VI

i'm sorry, but that scared me

[Ouroborus]

Because.



Just cuz they'll be on console doesn't mean they WON'T be added to the arcade afterwards.

which no one will play just like a2 gold and a3 upper.

[Tigerboi]

Your mentality has already been passed around.
But ZOMG UR SO original dewd.
So weaksauce lite.

I would feel bad about not being original if I were trying to be original.

And the SGS looks really fast this time. wow.

[Saotome Kaneda]

which no one will play just like a2 gold and a3 upper.
Unlike A2G and A3U you will have no choice, because the updates will be over network. The only way you'll be left out is if your arcade chooses to not apply the updates for some reason. They're not repackaging the game like they did for the other updates. This has been said and noted hundreds of times now.

Nice to see you have been paying attention this whole time.

[vasili10]

That's different. Attacks unless an obvious relation to religion like Moses Ocean Divider tend to be okay. Unlike character names like God Rugal and God Gundam and Devil Gundam which get changed. What baffles me though is how Devil May Cry and God Hand were allowed to pass.

It is? "Capital M" Messiah is an even more obvious relation to religion than "hell" is; after all, the latter's frequently used in vain.

Yeah, I was expecting something epic like flames of hell (3s).

How about we see Gouki get an SGS finish first? That's the only time you see the flames in 3S.

[JoeMasters]

can akuma do that in every game he's in (minus the versus games, doh!)

( i never played him in A1 and I stopped A3 after about half an hour, so I didn't even try... never played Second Impact either.)

I dont think he could in A2. Im not to sure about A1 either. Besides that,I've seen in in all the other games.

[Wasted]

can akuma do that in every game he's in (minus the versus games, doh!)

( i never played him in A1 and I stopped A3 after about half an hour, so I didn't even try... never played Second Impact either.)

He can't in A2, but he can in A3. From ANY ground tatsu, not just LK. He can do it in Second Impact and (obviously) 3S as well.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

the anime trailer for akuma is misleading.

[terracotta]

nice to see the "omg akuma's so boring" bandwagon is catching on.

personally the last time i felt Akuma was badass was second impact, though 3S wasn't so bad either. he doesn't look too special in this one.

don't like the fact that he glows during the EX demon flip.. it just gives the cue to shoryuken his ass then and there. the ambiguity between regular jump and demon flip was a key to its use.

ex demon flips ftw

wonder what those are good for

instead of yellin across the isle "YO IM GONNA DO A MIXUP" u can just do that
couldn't have put it better :rofl:

[iceworld]

^ Thats a good point, someone should post that in the capcom forums...

Anyone care to share some light why the demon flip has become an EX move? More damage..?

[Hatred Edge]

Apparently it's a distance thing. IIRC someone posted that EX Demon flip is capable of going full screen. Which won't help much since well it's not like he's moving a lot faster.

The distance thing doesn't me much to me if Akuma doesn't move at a much higher speed. Shorter startup, more distance, faster execution of the Demon Flip Followups would be much better than just a distance boost. But who knows what he'll be like in the end.

[terracotta]

it hasn't become an EX move.. just has an EX version.

it's probably too early to say, but it seems like he's based on 3S Akuma.. which isn't terrible, but it would've been nice to get a fresh take on him. wasn't CvS2 Akuma was already based on 3S Akuma? and A3 Akuma had some great tools with the far roundhouse and that cancellable hopkick which i miss dearly.

so far he seems to have a double standing roundhouse.. not sure what ti'd be used for since it's not like you could anti-air someone twice with it, or poke with it. haven't seen his divekick yet.. i don't expect floaty jumps to help his runaway air fireball shenannigans. can't tell if short hurricane kick is fast or if roundhouse hurricane hits crouchers. in short, can't see shit captain.

i don't the way he looks though. he looks like a badly drawn Wolverine w DBZ hair. the size of his hair makes him look pretty thin.. they should've cropped it like ST Akuma or his 2I portrait.

[drobizh]

He's too damn small. They done fucked up. What's with that sweep? that is insane. I haven't got a good feeling about all this.

[Rioting Soul]

He could probably do jab hadouken as a meaty then do EX Demon Flip.

so far he seems to have a double standing roundhouse.. not sure what ti'd be used for since it's not like you could anti-air someone twice with it, or poke with it.

Hunting for SA?

[RagingStormX]

He can't in A2, but he can in A3. From ANY ground tatsu, not just LK. He can do it in Second Impact and (obviously) 3S as well.

He can in A2, but if they roll the dp misses after a hurricane kick, but you can not dp after the hurricane and fuck'em up more if they do roll.

[Shade]

Gouki is too much win (especially in this). Fuck the haters, as usual. Also, Gouki should not be some huge gumpy fuck, he should be a normal sized man, just powerful as fuck. That's how it should be.

[Joe The Condor]

Gouki is too much win (especially in this). Fuck the haters, as usual. Also, Gouki should not be some huge gumpy fuck, he should be a normal sized man, just powerful as fuck. That's how it should be.

Pretty much. I don't understand why he should be "bigger."

The only problem so far is that the visual effects raging demon sucks.

[Adam Warlock]

Why do people expect him to be bigger? When you're raping people straight to hell, there's no time for food.

[Saotome Kaneda]

Why do people expect him to be bigger? When you're raping people straight to hell, there's no time for food.
sigged

[drobizh]

Why do people expect him to be bigger? When you're raping people straight to hell, there's no time for food.

well that's true

but i'd still want him to be bigger

[ReXXXSoprano]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tvTbDAigLU

Dictator vs Akuma

[Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose]

Maybe it is just me or my screen, but at about 0:57, did he cancel his demon flip with an air fireball? It is right after he connects with a SA. He goes in the air and it really looks like his demon flip move, then does an air fireball. It could be a jump, but it looks too much like a demon flip....

[shatterstar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tvTbDAigLU

Dictator vs Akuma
old.

sf4 video thread.

[Rioting Soul]

old.

sf4 video thread.

The one wearing the hat in the bottom row is my favorite.

[ReXXXSoprano]

old.

sf4 video thread.

So it is.

And every chick in ya av can get it.

[Dreams-Visions]

old.

sf4 video thread.

also the first video in the OP. but thanks anyway, Soprano.

[AKUMA2000]

Gouki is too much win (especially in this). Fuck the haters, as usual. Also, Gouki should not be some huge gumpy fuck, he should be a normal sized man, just powerful as fuck. That's how it should be.

ditto. :tup:

[the supreme]

He's too damn small. They done fucked up. What's with that sweep? that is insane. I haven't got a good feeling about all this.

Lol @ Gouki being too small, he's not meant to be big at all

[drobizh]

Lol @ Gouki being too small, he's not meant to be big at all

a guy can wish

[coco_j]

He should be slightly bigger than Ryu and Ken, that's all.

[terracotta]

first thing order of business when i'm supreme ruler of the world is to enslave the koreans, so that not one man on earth is without a harem of korean silly bitches as per shatta's avatar.

[Seppun]

Bigger sprite -> bigger hitbox -> sux
or? :wonder:

[Shade]

IV doesn't use sprites, but I get what you're saying. Either way, Akuma/Gouki should not be bigger than Ryu/Ken, just to toot some fandom wet dream of Akuma being some giant, hulking motherfucker, with no real justification with it.

In every canon game appearance, Akuma is the same height/size/shape as Ken, and Ryu. Same body sprite, or not, Capcom wanted it to be that way. They could have made an entirely different sprite if they so desired, but they didn't. And now that sprites are out of the way, and they (Capcom) can freely model them with polygons, we can now officially see that Akuma is the same size as Ryu and Ken, if not slightly smaller (can't call it, yet). Akumq was a normal man, at some point.

Anyway, he looks awesome, and he looks to play awesome. Can't wait to play as him.

[Akutabi Gamma]

Apparently he will be selectable starting next week...or so the blog states (fuck I want to kill the person who writes the announcements)

[coco_j]

Same base sprite or not, Akuma was meant to be slightly bigger than Ryu and Ken. He is 2 inches taller or something, and is much bigger in the official Alpha 2 artwork. I'm not suggesting he should be a giant at all, just slightly larger than Ken and Ryu, as has been portrayed in all official artwork.

[SuicidalGrandpa]

K well, he's that big so oh well.

[Mixah]

Same base sprite or not, Akuma was meant to be slightly bigger than Ryu and Ken. He is 2 inches taller or something, and is much bigger in the official Alpha 2 artwork. I'm not suggesting he should be a giant at all, just slightly larger than Ken and Ryu, as has been portrayed in all official artwork.

Stop yer bitchin