View Full Version : Dash cancel normals??
caliagent#3
08-17-2008, 08:14 AM
It was mentioned in the Ryu thread, but i just saw it for the first time in these vids, most notably the last one: http://www.irika.net/movie/sf4_select.html
In the Ryu thread it's said that he can cancel his close s.mp into a dash, and in the vids abel can cancel what i'm assuming is his far s.mk into a dash. Are there any other characters that can do this??
YellowS4
08-17-2008, 08:17 AM
You can dash cancel almost anything as long as you're on the ground (to some extent) and have 2 bars.
If you just fa cancel a move, it only costs one bar.
whoops, maybe I read it wrong, you meant normal dash right? You got time codes?
Because at 1:45 in the 002.wmv, I see what you're trying to say: s.mk x normal dash.
caliagent#3
08-17-2008, 08:25 AM
You can dash cancel almost anything as long as you're on the ground (to some extent) and have 2 bars.
If you just fa cancel a move, it only costs one bar.
whoops, maybe I read it wrong, you meant normal dash right? You got time codes?
Because at 1:45 in the 002.wmv, I see what you're trying to say: s.mk x normal dash.
Vid 3, at 1:35 at the start of the round Abel does s.mk xx dash, s.mp or s.fierce xx ex rekka xx sadc xx c.fierce xx command roll xx s.fierce or s.mp reset, throw and it all combos including the s.mk dash into s.mp/s.fierce.
edit: i'm assuming that the dash cancel is only relegated to 1 normal since it seems like it works kinda like chuns close s.hkxxsuper jump in 3s/cvs2
YellowS4
08-17-2008, 08:27 AM
Wow, now I get what you're saying, that's fucked up.
Jinrai
08-17-2008, 09:16 AM
It might be a property unique to Abel's standing Forward.
PENETRATOR
08-17-2008, 01:02 PM
It might be a property unique to Abel's standing Forward.
This could be it.
Special Cancel [ ]
Super Cancel [ ]
Dash Cancel [ ]
*addz new row to frame data tables*
mtsac kid
08-17-2008, 01:21 PM
i think you can DC anything
Ive accidently dash cancelled Ryu's Low fierce and close standing strong
dont know the purpose of it yet however
Humbag
08-17-2008, 02:12 PM
If you could DC anything the game would be kinda broke.
I imagine its very character specific like target combos.
Adds a new dimension and is very cool for someone like Abel.
MAGUS1234
08-17-2008, 02:25 PM
Unless the frames after the dash are close to +/- 1 there is no real threat, it just becomes a gimmick
Leebee Link
08-17-2008, 03:07 PM
agreed with humbag; possibly like each of the characters have moves with armor breaking properties, maybe a few normals have dash cancel properties
Ryu has it so i'm happy :tup:
caliagent#3
08-17-2008, 03:13 PM
Unless the frames after the dash are close to +/- 1 there is no real threat, it just becomes a gimmick
well Abel was able:confused: to combo after the normal dash cancel, so maybe it depends on dashing speed or the normal you cancel from.
YellowS4
08-17-2008, 03:15 PM
If I play tonight, I'll let you know if it works with other characters.
the dash after standing MK with abel has nothing to do with what i mentioned with ryu, its one of those few unique moves and it requires no super bar unlike ryu which takes two. why they would give a grappler a free safe dash after a normal is beyond me.
most, not all normals can be SADC. i want to say all normals thats can be buffered into a special move or super but even some normals that cant can still be SADC. i only mentioned ryu's because unlike all the others that i've tried, ryu can get off another normal after the SADC.
whether you cancel a normal or a special move, itll take two bars.
whats the point? well so far its not good combo wise but comes in handy for a free grab or add to the mix up game since after you cancel the normal you can either dash before the SA come out and keep the pressure going, let the SA come out then dash, or just hold the SA until your op try to poke or run.
a good time to mess with normal to SADC is when you kill someone with a normal. just do another normal then hit the SA buttons. eg you killed someone with ryu's c+lp, after the KO, just hit another normal like standing HP, then hit the SA buttons and what do you know, three hit combo. NOTE: stuff you pull off here might not work in game just like some combos you pull off on someone when they die in 3S.
DaDesiCanadian
08-17-2008, 08:01 PM
How's the timing on the dash cancel with Abel? Is it tight or easy, if anyones tried it yet?
How's the timing on the dash cancel with Abel? Is it tight or easy, if anyones tried it yet?
"no skill" easy
YellowS4
08-17-2008, 10:34 PM
Gief can s.short into dash. Not that it's useful or anything.
Kamui
08-17-2008, 10:42 PM
For the record, the attack in question is Abel's F + MK, a command move. As far as I knew, it's a property unique to that move only. I'm not sure, but comboing after it may be limited to counter hit situations only, where its hit stun is longer.
DaDesiCanadian
08-17-2008, 10:45 PM
"no skill" easy
Perfect for me then!
caliagent#3
08-18-2008, 09:56 AM
So the dash is a special move? Can he do it off of other normals or just s.mk?
shinblanka
08-18-2008, 04:52 PM
Holy shit abel and rufus are sooooo fucking tight!!!!!!!!!!!!
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