Buying a next-gen console for Street Fighter 4...

[MaxGoof]

My wife wants to get me a next-gen console for my upcoming birthday, which I want mainly because my Wii won't be able to play Soul Calibur IV or Street Fighter IV. Problem is, I know nothing about the PS3 and XBox 360, and have absolutely no interest in either outside of playing these two fighting games.

I know a lot of details aren't available yet about the console versions of SFIV, but based upon past history of the two systems, can anyone make a conjecture as to which console will have the better version of SFIV? Does one console have smoother/better online play in general than the other?

Since I'm getting a console almost entirely for SFIV, I wanna make sure I try to at least get the one that will have the better version... :lovin:

[cain[e]]

As a whole I'd say ps3 is the better console, but for online play, if you don't mind paying 50 bux a year, Xbox seems to be what everyone is suggesting is better. I havan't had many problems with ps3's online play thusfar though.

[HNayl]

Yeah I think thats the bottom line....plan to play online? The 360 is probably the way to go. There is a larger online community with the 360 than there is on the PS3 due to MS's Live! service.

[MaxGoof]

Yeah I think thats the bottom line....plan to play online? The 360 is probably the way to go. There is a larger online community with the 360 than there is on the PS3 due to MS's Live! service.

Is Sony's online service really that bad? Again, I don't know much about these consoles, although I have heard that XBox Live is awesome...

[UltraDavid]

I was in the same boat until recently. I'm only ever going to play SFHD Remix and SF4 on my next-gen console, so I didn't know whether to get a 360 or a PS3. Eventually I settled on a 360 because it had the SFHD beta and because it's cheaper, but now I wish I hadn't.

The thing is, it's not really cheaper at all. Whereas PS3's internet access is free, you have to pay to get into XBOX Live with a monthly or yearly fee, which by itself makes up for most of the difference in price between the two systems in just one year. Also the 360 doesn't come with a wireless adapter built in or externally, you have to buy it extra. Microsoft tries to charge you $100 for this (!), and while I bought a generic version for half that, it still costs some dough. Not to mention the video cables that came with my 360 came broken, so that's a whole other hassle.

After paying for a year of Live and a way to access the internet, my 360 has already cost me more than a PS3 would have. And because of how much money Live costs and the expectation cost for the chance of getting a red ring of death, over the life of the system I'll probably end up paying around double what the PS3 would have cost me total. Not a very smart decision on my part.

Plenty of people are going to play SFHD and SF4 on both systems, so I don't think one is going to have a significantly better community than the other.

[arstal]

The issue then becomes tourney standard, which is going to be intense, since there is less of a bias against the 360 in the SF community like there is in the SC community, and the STHD beta has caused some people to jump towards the 360.

Why I say that tourneys now need to provide standard sticks. Solves the issue, though creates new ones.

[UltraDavid]

Well when HDR was still expected to be at Evo, it was planned to be on the PS3. PS2 is the standard right now, so just about everyone in our scene has a PS-compatible stick, which makes me think PS3 is the more likely standard anyway.

Personally I've made a couple sticks for myself with 360 and PS pcbs so I can play whichever system ends up being standard, but yeah, can't expect everyone to do that.

[Zero619]

Yeah I think thats the bottom line....plan to play online? The 360 is probably the way to go. There is a larger online community with the 360 than there is on the PS3 due to MS's Live! service.

:u: This and the fact that the 360 have a better library of games, just incase you want to check out another game besides SF4 and SC4.

[HNayl]

Let me throw out an additional plus for the PS3....blue ray...while its not necessarily game related it is a additon that the 360 doesn't and won't have. If you have a HDTV, blue ray movies are definitely above regular DVDs. The blue ray library is growing quickly too...I walked into my local blockbuster last weekend and the BR section is now 2 full isles long.

[Joe The Condor]

To be honest, all the multi-plat games are better on the 360. This + the online = console to get. But it all comes down to exclusive titles you want, and a blu-ray player.

[pherai]

To be honest, all the multi-plat games are better on the 360.

No wonder you're so far in the red.

[micah7]

seriously, i have both. my 360 had been sitting for months without being turned on until ninja gaiden 2 came out. recently it red-ringed, so it's back to sitting again. i need to send it off, but its inconvenient!

my ps3 gets turned on everyday.. whether its to watch a dvd/blu-ray or play tekken, sc4, or sf alpha (downloadable on the ps store now). i really enjoy my ps3 more than i thought i would. i have a fighting stick 3 for mine, plus a custom stick coming in for ps2/ps3.

when i used to play cod4 and halo3 on my 360, i always had the thought in the back of my mind that the stupid thing could stop working at anytime (and it did!). but, from what i've heard, microsoft has fixed the problem in the newer models.

might want to check the upcoming releases to see if there's anything else you might be interested in picking up.

m7

[caliagent#3]

The issue then becomes tourney standard, which is going to be intense, since there is less of a bias against the 360 in the SF community like there is in the SC community, and the STHD beta has caused some people to jump towards the 360.

Why I say that tourneys now need to provide standard sticks. Solves the issue, though creates new ones.

People are just gonna have to suck it up and just play whatever system the games show up on, i don't think it's really that big of an issue. There are people out there who in the past and now don't own a ps2 (me) or a stick for console (me until 2 yrs ago) since they mostly play arcade or whatever the reason may be. Just buy whatever stick you need if you know the tourney is going to be on ps3 if you have a 360.

[Jollies]

To be honest, all the multi-plat games are better on the 360. This + the online = console to get. But it all comes down to exclusive titles you want, and a blu-ray player.

Yeah, most cross-platform games are better on the 360, since the games are designed from the ground up on the 360 first, and the controller is better for most types of games (especially shooters, but that's what a PC is for). But if you're a fighting game fan who likes to use a pad, the PS3 has the better pad by far. And even if you play with a stick, most sticks are PS1/2 based, and it's a lot easier to get a PS1/2 to PS3 adapter than it is to build a new stick with a 360 controller.

Even though cross-platform games (IMHO) feel better on a 360 controller, they're also available on the PS3, and the look roughly the same and play nearly as nice. As for exclusives, the PS3 has (O)MGS4, GT5 Prologue if you like racers, and eventually Tekken 6.

As for online play, XBL has a much larger community and is much more organized than PSN, but it is also expensive, whereas PSN is free. And on PSN's side, I think the people who play better in competitive fighters are Sony guys from previous-gen console fighters who will play on the PS3 for the pad/stick reasons I mentioned above (at least that's what I'm hoping for, and that's why I bought a PS3).

I'm fortunate enough to own both systems, but this is how I've always felt about the 2 platforms: PS3 for Blu-ray and fighters, and the 360 for everything else.

[DuckHole]

Yea Live costs 50 bucks a year but it is worth it IMO. The new update its getting soon with netflix and all that jazz sounds neat. If I was you and had to pick today ide go xbox. Now Im planning to buy a PS3 here pretty quick cuz it has stuff to offer too (bluray lol).

[FaceMeAndBeBroken]

I have both as well as Wii.

I have gotten my fighters on PS3, but I prefer EVERYTHING else about 360. And I planned to get SF4 and HDR (I'm only playing the old way) on PS3, but recently I heard MS is releasing a new d-pad on the controller, that is to be more fighting game friendly. That will probably make me get fighters on 360, and the PS3 will sit even more that it does now.

I have had Tekken since 10/2/07 I only have 98 matches online. I have had SCIV since day one, and only played a friend 5 online matches. I know if Tekken was on 360 and I bought SCIV on it, I probably would play more online. PS3 online is trudgery.

If that 360 controller is true, then my only PS3 game anytime soon will be an imported Tekken 6. Unless the 360 gets that title lol.

[UltraDavid]

Well the original poster doesn't care about what other games are available and doesn't seem to care about whether he gets a blu-ray player, so those aren't compelling arguments for him.

OP, bottom line is, you can have substantially the same experience for your purposes on both systems, but you can do it for significantly less money on the PS3.

[MaxGoof]

Well the original poster doesn't care about what other games are available and doesn't seem to care about whether he gets a blu-ray player, so those aren't compelling arguments for him.

OP, bottom line is, you can have substantially the same experience for your purposes on both systems, but you can do it for significantly less money on the PS3.

Ah, thank you!

It sounds like I'll have a much more fulfilling experience playing SFIV online on the 360, so I think that's what I'm gonna ask for.

Thanks for all the help!

[AlcaTraz644]

since this thread is basically about buying a next-gen console i have a question to ask.

So i have a wii and want to sell because i felt like i wasted money just to play SSBB and can't even play online or with anyone for that matter. I've been playing fighting games all my life and prefered those games. And now since this is basically revival of fighting games i regret buy my crapy wii whole more than i usually do.

I really can't decide if i want a ps3 again or a 360 since most of my friends have that system. Sure they all have it, but playing fighting games is what i'm all about and i don't care for FPS.
I just want some really competion against players that equal or more skilled than me. Also if blazblue is really Ps3 exclusive ( i think it is correct me if i'm wrong) i'd regret buying a 360 though i'd still get SF4.

if u guy could help me out that be good. Also since Ps3 isn't region locked does that mean i could play against people in Japan or can the 360 do that aswell?

oh yeah when ever i post something this white thing appears is that a good or bad thing

[tl613]

I'm in the same situation but know I will be getting a PS3. Because in addition to SFIV and SCIV you can get Tekken 6, assuming you care about that game.

[AlcaTraz644]

like i said i'm all about fighters and anything else thats interesting to play almost forgot about tekken 6

[Joe The Condor]

No wonder you're so far in the red.

It's because I said if the girl from SF4 was a KoF character because she looks like one... Then I get two butthurt cry babies putting me in the red.

And if you ever wanted to discuss multi-plats, and how they are better on the 360, feel free to pm.

[Joe The Condor]

OP, bottom line is, you can have substantially the same experience for your purposes on both systems, but you can do it for significantly less money on the PS3.

That's not true. The 360 is getting price cuts almost every month.

But if I was him, I would get it on the PC like I am. :wgrin:

[Septimus Prime]

I was in the same boat until recently. I'm only ever going to play SFHD Remix and SF4 on my next-gen console, so I didn't know whether to get a 360 or a PS3. Eventually I settled on a 360 because it had the SFHD beta and because it's cheaper, but now I wish I hadn't.

The thing is, it's not really cheaper at all. Whereas PS3's internet access is free, you have to pay to get into XBOX Live with a monthly or yearly fee, which by itself makes up for most of the difference in price between the two systems in just one year. Also the 360 doesn't come with a wireless adapter built in or externally, you have to buy it extra. Microsoft tries to charge you $100 for this (!), and while I bought a generic version for half that, it still costs some dough. Not to mention the video cables that came with my 360 came broken, so that's a whole other hassle.

After paying for a year of Live and a way to access the internet, my 360 has already cost me more than a PS3 would have. And because of how much money Live costs and the expectation cost for the chance of getting a red ring of death, over the life of the system I'll probably end up paying around double what the PS3 would have cost me total. Not a very smart decision on my part.

Plenty of people are going to play SFHD and SF4 on both systems, so I don't think one is going to have a significantly better community than the other.
I freaking told you all this in the last damn thread about this subject, but you chose to think you knew better. Enjoy your 360. :tdown:

Yeah, most cross-platform games are better on the 360, since the games are designed from the ground up on the 360 first, and the controller is better for most types of games
That is completely unsubstantiated bullshit. Multi-platform games have been mostly identical. However, as we move along in time, devs are now starting to use the PS3 as the lead console, and we are finally starting to see a difference, not that the OP cares about other games anyway.

Ah, thank you!

It sounds like I'll have a much more fulfilling experience playing SFIV online on the 360, so I think that's what I'm gonna ask for.

Thanks for all the help!
You know he was basically telling you to get a PS3, right? Read over his posts again, since it's apparent that you either didn't understand them or just glossed over them.

[Septimus Prime]

And if you ever wanted to discuss multi-plats, and how they are better on the 360, feel free to pm.
That is absolutely bullshit. Only people who have not played both versions of multi-platform games will continue to say this.

That's not true. The 360 is getting price cuts almost every month.
It still costs more in the long run.

[nhuloan]

i didnt wanna miss out on anything so i just bought both 360 and ps3.

more competition means less time time with the nagging wife. :)

[blazeu25]

if ur gona get serious with sf4 and go to tournys id say go for the ps3. not eevryone plays stick and for damn sure the ps3pad is better then 360 pad for fighters. sure the online for 360 is better but to be honest i havent had a singel problem with my online for ps3. and no matter what both systems r gona have a big community for online. but if ur goin to tournys go for ps3 bc im pretty sure (not 100%) that the tournys r gona use the ps3. unless its a bad port which i doubt since ps3 is more powerful then 360.

[arstal]

if ur gona get serious with sf4 and go to tournys id say go for the ps3. not eevryone plays stick and for damn sure the ps3pad is better then 360 pad for fighters. sure the online for 360 is better but to be honest i havent had a singel problem with my online for ps3. and no matter what both systems r gona have a big community for online. but if ur goin to tournys go for ps3 bc im pretty sure (not 100%) that the tournys r gona use the ps3. unless its a bad port which i doubt since ps3 is more powerful then 360.

Both the PS3 and 360 pads are shit for fighters. Saturn pad works, but that's it. As for PS3 online, I'm still not sure if it's because the 360 is better, or Namco sucks that much balls at online coding, and they're the only ones who have done it for PS3.

The only sure thing is that the PC tournies like WCG have to use 360 for the console games due to agreements with Microsoft. Maybe Evo or some major could team with them, hold nationals and cross-promote.

[Gutter Trash]

I own both consoles and I am selecting PS3 because of the openness for accessories, adapters, sticks, pads overall.

I find the 360 to be anally restrictive on peripherals that it makes it more limiting when selecting your proffered method of play for fighting games or any other games

[Toodles]

I own both consoles and I am selecting PS3 because of the openness for accessories, adapters, sticks, pads overall.

I find the 360 to be anally restrictive on peripherals that it makes it more limiting when selecting your proffered method of play for fighting games or any other games

Absolute truth. Good quality sticks are a cinch to get for the PS3, and are a serious PITA for the xbox360.

If your only concern is fighters, get a backwards compatible PS3; larger library to choose from, blue ray, and getting a good stick or converter for it is a bajillion times easier.

And this is coming from someone who owns a 360 and not a PS3, yet. I REALLY hope PS3 ends up becoming the standard tourny console used in the future.

[Joe The Condor]

That is absolutely bullshit. Only people who have not played both versions of multi-platform games will continue to say this.


It still costs more in the long run.

It's true though. Unless you name me a couple of games that are better on the PS3 than 360, don't mention it.

How does it cost more in the long run? :confused:

[AlcaTraz644]

there's no point to me getting a backwards compatiable ps3 since i can't find my GGX2 or GGAC though for somehow my local gamestore has street fighter anniversary collection.

Any of u that played GGAC on a Ps3 did it suddenly freeze on u and eventually after taking the game back out and dong it again it began to work happened to me almost every time i tryed to get some time to practice

[UltraDavid]

I freaking told you all this in the last damn thread about this subject, but you chose to think you knew better. Enjoy your 360. :tdown:I decided that being able to play the SFHD beta was worth the extra cost of Live. But I don't think I ever heard about the million dollar wireless adapter until I brought the thing home and tried to play, and I certainly had no expectation that the thing would come unable to play on a regular style tv screen. I'm glad that I can play the beta, but if I didn't care about it as much as I do I definitely wouldn't have gone with the 360. It was still the wrong decision, though, and I freely 'fess up; being able to play the beta is not worth an extra few hundred dollars in the long run.


Actually, maybe I'll look into selling my 360 back when the beta is done and just getting a PS3...

[time_attack]

Doesnt matter which system you choose they are both great systems.

-360 is better imo because of their massive library of next gen games. trust me you will want something other than sf4 and sc4 down the road and the 360 has significantly more options.
-59.99 a year is not that expensive, less than 10$ a month
-PS3 is my new standard for watching movies, there is nothing that comes close to the quality of a blueray film.
-PS3 version pending you have access to a wide library of legacy games (ps2, ps3) + online arcade legacy games.
-initially the PS3 is the more expensive option, but with roughly the same options the 360 will cost more.
-if you want a next console on a budget (that will play sf4) the xbox hands down win. You dont need wireless, and the 360 comes with HD component cables right off the bat, ps3 just comes with what the ps2 had. You will need a better controller, and contrary to what others say the ps3 dpad is shit bricks to play fighting games, invest in a stick. However, the ps3 does have many options for fighting controllers that are far cheaper than the 360.

[Septimus Prime]

It's true though. Unless you name me a couple of games that are better on the PS3 than 360, don't mention it.

How does it cost more in the long run? :confused:
Call of Duty 4 (cleaner textures and more players per game), Burnout Paradise (cleaner textures and better online), and Unreal Tournament 3 (user-generated content) come to mind immediately. There are some others, but some of them are things I can't yet talk about due to work and NDAs. Bionic Commando: Rearmed is also arguably better on PS3 (less slowdown and more challenge rooms, but it doesn't have Trophies).

In terms of it costing more in the long run, let's build ourselves an "equivalent" 360, using an Elite.

Xbox 360 Elite with HDMI: $400
Wireless controller: $50
Batteries: $5 (which you will need to repurchase once in a while whereas PS3 controllers charge via an included USB cable, on which you can also charge your PSP and other devices)
Xbox LIVE: $60 (recurring annually)
Wifi adaptor: $100
HD DVD add-on to "compete" with Blu-ray: $50

That brings us to $600 already, with at least $65 recurring annually for LIVE and batteries (and I doubt you can make your batteries last for an entire year), whereas an 80GB PS3 can be had for as little as $300 if you apply for a Sonystyle credit card and use your discount toward that.

This doesn't even take into account that the PS3 can use generic hard drives for memory upgrades (for example, I got a 250 GB drive for $80 a few months back), whereas the 360 sticks you with proprietary drives that cost twice as much as they should.

UltraDavid: Good call on selling your 360. :tup:

[EvilSamurai]

The correct answer is PC with GGPO mod.

[nhuloan]

too many fanboys here..

heres a solution..get a job..get paid..buy both ps3 and 360..problem solved

[DuckHole]

Call of Duty 4 (cleaner textures and more players per game), Burnout Paradise (cleaner textures and better online), and Unreal Tournament 3 (user-generated content) come to mind immediately. There are some others, but some of them are things I can't yet talk about due to work and NDAs. Bionic Commando: Rearmed is also arguably better on PS3 (less slowdown and more challenge rooms, but it doesn't have Trophies).

In terms of it costing more in the long run, let's build ourselves an "equivalent" 360, using an Elite.

Xbox 360 Elite with HDMI: $400
Wireless controller: $50
Batteries: $5 (which you will need to repurchase once in a while whereas PS3 controllers charge via and included USB)
Xbox LIVE: $60 (recurring annually)
Wifi adaptor: $100
HD DVD add-on to "compete" with Blu-ray: $50

That brings us to $600 already, with at least $65 recurring annually for LIVE and batteries (and I doubt you can make your batteries last for an entire year), whereas an 80GB PS3 can be had for as little as $300 if you apply for a Sonystyle credit card and use your discount toward that.

This doesn't even take into account that the PS3 can use generic hard drives for memory upgrades (for example, I got a 250 GB drive for $80 a few months back), whereas the 360 sticks you with proprietary drives that cost twice as much as they should.

UltraDavid: Good call on selling your 360. :tup:

Is that true about Call of Duty? Man you do make a great argument about the hard drives Microsoft does tend to rape on shit. How many controllers does Sony give you I thought it was only one like Microsoft. Anyway Im starting to get excited to buy a PS3 for Bluray purposes and maybe some MGS. Honestly though I think even after I get my PS3 when it came down to multi-plat titles Xbox live will be a huge factor in my decision. Anyway OP like it was said before both systems will serve your purpose.

I know you said you dont care about anything but those 2 games. The truth is you are gonna want to do more with your system than that. So it boils down to do you want a large library of good games or a smaller library of good games and Bluray.

Lol its like Im talking myself into buying that PS3 but Im broke down right now.

[SRKev]

Here are some common misconceptions:

-Xbox Live has less lag than PS3 Online (False)

-It's easier to find someone to play with on Xbox Live (False, it's just as easy on PS3)

-The game will look and play better on 360 (False, no one knows this)



Honestly, all it comes down to is whether or not you're willing to pay $5 a month for your service and which system your friends have.

[blazeu25]

yep and most likely the top players that r gonna go to tournys r gonna have it for ps3.

[UltraDavid]

Guys who talk about buying other games: there's no reason to think the original poster will every buy anything other than what he says he will. I've owned a PS2 for years, and do you know how many games I have for it? I have 4: AE/3S, CCC2, Alpha Anthologies, and Tekken 5 (I had CvS2 until someone stole it at a tournament). I fully expect that I'll never buy anything for 360/PS3 except for SFHD, SF4, and maybe like TvC if it ever comes to console or some other new Capcom fighter that hasn't been announced yet (which will certainly be on both systems, since that's how Capcom operates now). I realize we're all gaming nerds, but the fact that I play one video game doesn't mean I play another. I haven't been interested in anything other than fighting games for probably a good 5 or 6 years now.

[ninja_velmor]

i would suggest ps3 because you can import games on it without modding. So if SF4 comes out in Japan first, you can just import it.

[Rikidozan]

I am happy PS3 owner - however I had my first PAL PS3 on the European release date and I was soon to find out it was noisy as a jetplane (European 60 GB version is trash). I called up the seller and demanded that I had my money refunded, after some time they gave in. I then bought the "ghetto" PS3 40 GB about 6 months after, less noisy, uses less power due to a smaller chip and it was much cheaper I switched the HDD with a 160 GB one.

I love the PS3's compatibility, I often watch downloaded dvds from my external HDD via my PS3, it looks freaking sweet.
Metal Gear Solid 4 is an epic game, I'm really enjoying playing this with my brother.

I thought about getting a X360, but the only reason to get one for me is the downloadable games, especially Streets of Rage 2. Not a good enough reason to buy one, on top of that it's quite noisy and I've heard you have to be willing to visit your X360 retailer from time to time. Furthermore I hate FPS / Shooter games.

[General Deamond]

too many fanboys here..

Glad I'm not the only one who see's that, sheesh.

[nilcam]

I own a Wii and recently decided to buy a new system as well. After some thought, I decided to go with the PS3. The reasons were the system being region-free, the hardware seems to be more reliable and most of the people I play fighters with have the PS3. Having a built-in group of friends makes a huge difference to me, as does the region-free aspect. I imported Battle Fantasia as my first order of business. I think the 360 and PS3 both have good and bad points.

[Septimus Prime]

Is that true about Call of Duty? Man you do make a great argument about the hard drives Microsoft does tend to rape on shit. How many controllers does Sony give you I thought it was only one like Microsoft. Anyway Im starting to get excited to buy a PS3 for Bluray purposes and maybe some MGS. Honestly though I think even after I get my PS3 when it came down to multi-plat titles Xbox live will be a huge factor in my decision. Anyway OP like it was said before both systems will serve your purpose.

I know you said you dont care about anything but those 2 games. The truth is you are gonna want to do more with your system than that. So it boils down to do you want a large library of good games or a smaller library of good games and Bluray.

Lol its like Im talking myself into buying that PS3 but Im broke down right now.
It is true about CoD4, although the PC one is still the best of the three. As for controllers, you only get one—a Dualshock 3—and the console supports up to seven simultaneously. The controllers themselves are all bluetooth, and they never need batteries, and they can charged from any USB port (including the ones on your computer, so you don't even have to turn on the PS3). Like 360 controllers, they can also be used as generic USB controllers for your PC, but you will need special drivers for that.

Guys who talk about buying other games: there's no reason to think the original poster will every buy anything other than what he says he will. I've owned a PS2 for years, and do you know how many games I have for it? I have 4: AE/3S, CCC2, Alpha Anthologies, and Tekken 5 (I had CvS2 until someone stole it at a tournament). I fully expect that I'll never buy anything for 360/PS3 except for SFHD, SF4, and maybe like TvC if it ever comes to console or some other new Capcom fighter that hasn't been announced yet (which will certainly be on both systems, since that's how Capcom operates now). I realize we're all gaming nerds, but the fact that I play one video game doesn't mean I play another. I haven't been interested in anything other than fighting games for probably a good 5 or 6 years now.
I agree with you, but then you can also start thinking about movies. Aside from opening up the wonderful world of Blu-ray to the user, the PS3 also happens to be one of the best upscaling DVD players on the market. Its other media playback capabilities are no slouch either (with built-in upscaling and upsampling for your video and audio files, respectively), and its built-in wifi allows you to immediately be able to stream data from your PC to have it serve as a strong media center.

[Joe The Condor]

Call of Duty 4 (cleaner textures and more players per game), Burnout Paradise (cleaner textures and better online), and Unreal Tournament 3 (user-generated content) come to mind immediately. There are some others, but some of them are things I can't yet talk about due to work and NDAs. Bionic Commando: Rearmed is also arguably better on PS3 (less slowdown and more challenge rooms, but it doesn't have Trophies).

In terms of it costing more in the long run, let's build ourselves an "equivalent" 360, using an Elite.

Xbox 360 Elite with HDMI: $400
Wireless controller: $50
Batteries: $5 (which you will need to repurchase once in a while whereas PS3 controllers charge via an included USB cable, on which you can also charge your PSP and other devices)
Xbox LIVE: $60 (recurring annually)
Wifi adaptor: $100
HD DVD add-on to "compete" with Blu-ray: $50

That brings us to $600 already, with at least $65 recurring annually for LIVE and batteries (and I doubt you can make your batteries last for an entire year), whereas an 80GB PS3 can be had for as little as $300 if you apply for a Sonystyle credit card and use your discount toward that.

This doesn't even take into account that the PS3 can use generic hard drives for memory upgrades (for example, I got a 250 GB drive for $80 a few months back), whereas the 360 sticks you with proprietary drives that cost twice as much as they should.

UltraDavid: Good call on selling your 360. :tup:

Call Of Duty 4 isn't better on the PS3, and it doesn't have cleaner textures. If anything, it's more blurrier.

How does Burnout of better online? That's a complete lie. PSN does not come close to Live.

Yeah, who plays UT3? No one, and the mod thing is limited compared to PC. I don't know why anyone would by this game on consoles.

... You don't need to buy batteries for the Xbox, have you heard of rechargeable battery packs?

You don't need Wifi

HD DVD is dead

Wireless controller is the same price as the PS3's, and you can buy cheaper ones from other companies.

So, in other words, all you need is the 360, and a battery pack. Everything else is unnecessary

You lose, good day sir.

[Septimus Prime]

"You don't need to have a next-gen console! Buy an Xbox 360!" :rofl:

[Projectjustice]

PSN might be free but its horrible service compared to XBL. Lag and disconnection issues plague the network. Its all about community and 360 has it. You pay for what you get for folks. 360 versions are the way to go 100%.

[Septimus Prime]

PSN might be free but its horrible service compared to XBL. Lag and disconnection issues plague the network. You pay for what you get for folks. 360 versions are the way to go 100%.
Bullshit, like LIVE is lag-free. They are equally laggy and offer the same features. The reason you think LIVE is better is because you actually do pay for it and want to justify your spending.

[General Deamond]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27570.html

Is there really a difference between the 360 and PS3 version of COD4, because they look the same to me.

[Sasmasta]

To OP: You wanna play as Yoda or Vader?

Let that guide your decision.

[Septimus Prime]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27570.html

Is there really a difference between the 360 and PS3 version of COD4, because they look the same to me.
And you can verify that these are played on the same TV, with the same settings and that the video itself is uncompressed and playing at full resolution and not streaming off a website at some wonky resolution at a low bitrate? Wow. I never knew you were a magician.

[General Deamond]

And you can verify that these are played on the same TV, with the same settings and that the video itself is uncompressed and playing at full resolution and not streaming off a website at some wonky resolution at a low bitrate? Wow. I never knew you were a magician.

There is a lot you don't know.

[Projectjustice]

Bullshit, like LIVE is lag-free. They are equally laggy and offer the same features. The reason you think LIVE is better is because you actually do pay for it and want to justify your spending.

Its not bullshit its fact. I never said Live is lag-free but its a lot better than PSN dude. PSN is 3 years behind XBL when it comes to features. You guys finally got in game cross communication. Live had that since Xbox 1.:lol:


COD4 isnt better on PS3. You're retarded.

[McRomes]

What system is going to be used to play SF4 tourneys? Right now it seems like the 360, because everything the Capcom has done lately with both SF2HD and SF4 have mainly been on 360.

[Vzamm]

ps3

/thread

[blazeu25]

What system is going to be used to play SF4 tourneys? Right now it seems like the 360, because everything the Capcom has done lately with both SF2HD and SF4 have mainly been on 360.

only bc capcom puts everything on the 360 doesnt mean were gona choose to put tournys on the 360. just means is cheaper for them to set it up on the 360 or MS is paying them. we would choose what system its gona b tourny legal depending what system has the best port.

[Septimus Prime]

Septimus Prime bad rep me cause I owned him. :lol:
You owned nothing. You just posted bullshit.

Quick FYI: I play on both LIVE and PSN all the time, often with the same games. They are the same.

[caliagent#3]

PSN might be free but its horrible service compared to XBL. Lag and disconnection issues plague the network. Its all about community and 360 has it. You pay for what you get for folks. 360 versions are the way to go 100%.

Agreed. This the only reason i still have a 360. If MS didn't have XBL, i would not have gotten another 360 after my first one rrod. I have no probs paying for XBL.

Oh and what septimus posted isn't entirely correct. You can get an xbl subscription cheaper than $60. And since you only plan on using your system for SC4 and SF4, all the other things he posted are pretty much irrelavent (most of which you can get for a cheaper price than what he listed anyways).


The best thing about the PS3, is you get a larger selection of controls you want to use and more backwards compatibility for older fighting games.

But yea, XBL > PSN

[StuartHayden]

Evo will more than likely run SFIV on PS3 due to having PS3's already at their disposal due to T5DR. I can imagine the same for ST:HD.

So, I say buy a PS3.

[SRKev]

I don't understand how people are saying that Live will be better for SF4, because no one fucking knows yet.

As I said previously, there are 2 questions to ask yourself:

1) Am I ok with paying $5 a month?

My answer: I already bought the system, the game, and I pay for internet. Why should I pay a monthly fee to play a game online? What is this, World Of Warcraft?

2) Which system are my friends getting it on?

My answer: Everyone I know is getting it on PS3, so it's decided.

That's it, plain and simple.

We don't need to get into a system spec discussion or network lag/disconnect issues, it's pointless.

[Saotome Kaneda]

Septimus Prime bad rep me cause I owned him. :lol:
keep rep whining out of threads

[Projectjustice]

Agreed. This the only reason i still have a 360. If MS didn't have XBL, i would not have gotten another 360 after my first one rrod. I have no probs paying for XBL.

Oh and what septimus posted isn't entirely correct. You can get an xbl subscription cheaper than $60. And since you only plan on using your system for SC4 and SF4, all the other things he posted are pretty much irrelavent (most of which you can get for a cheaper price than what he listed anyways).


The best thing about the PS3, is you get a larger selection of controls you want to use and more backwards compatibility for older fighting games.

But yea, XBL > PSN

Exactly!

I don't understand how people are saying that Live will be better for SF4,

Easy, the network itself is just better.

[rahmoan]

i personally think the only difference is playing online(which what most people will want to do for street fighter.) i think the community in a whole is better on 360(but it costs money.) graphics and otherwise(blue ray, what not) is a ps3 specialty, but i really didn't like the community on there(this was a while ago, so don't quote me on this recently.) i will end up getting this for both systems most likely, i have more friends on 360 so, i'll probably be on there more.

[SRKev]

Easy, the network itself is just better.

How will it be better for SF4 when you don't even know what features will be in the game? You're just making guesses because you have no legs to stand on.

[JoeMasters]

I completley hate the 360. When SFIV hits consoles, ill be moving to PS3.

[Projectjustice]

How will it be better for SF4 when you don't even know what features will be in the game? You're just making guesses because you have no legs to stand on.

First of all, the games will be identical. So we cant use SF4 as a measurement of which console version will be better. We have to go with what PSN and XBL offers. Right now, PSN has lag and disconnecting issues are way worst than XBL. XBL has a much larger community and last I check fighting games is all about community. No community a fighter just sits there and collects dusts. XBL service has more features than PSN. These are just the well known facts.

[will976]

i hated my 360.

get a ps triple.

[kyored]

First of all, the games will be identical. So we cant use SF4 as a measurement of which console version will be better. We have to go with what PSN and XBL offers. Right now, PSN has lag and disconnecting issues are way worst than XBL. XBL has a much larger community and last I check fighting games is all about community. No community a fighter just sits there and collects dusts. XBL service has more features than PSN. These are just the well known facts.

whoa slow down. I have 2 360's and a ps3. I have cod4, gta4, burnout, and SC4 on both systems all in the same room lag is the same on neither is better the other. (I started using my nephews live because I stop paying for mine. I just felt the there was no point.) and what are these ''great features'' that overshadows lag that you still have to pay money 4. I play SC4 on 360 and ps3 and the lag is still just as bad on both. It just comes down to what u prefer playing (and cost).

[SRKev]

First of all, the games will be identical. So we cant use SF4 as a measurement of which console version will be better. We have to go with what PSN and XBL offers. Right now, PSN has lag and disconnecting issues are way worst than XBL. XBL has a much larger community and last I check fighting games is all about community. No community a fighter just sits there and collects dusts. XBL service has more features than PSN. These are just the well known facts.

1)The lag on PSN isn't any worse or better than 360 and that's coming from someone who plays both on a regular basis. Both networks have good and bad days, everyone know this.

2) So you're openly saying that more fighting game fans own a 360 rather than a PS3?:rofl: Do you have any facts to support this or did you just pull this out of your ass as well?

Until you have some hard evidence to back anything you're saying, your point is rubbish.

[blazeu25]

is funny how this guy has no idea whats he talking bout. better netcode? u do notice that if it lags online its bc capcom netcode sucks. its not ms. so if it legs on any system its bc capcom's need a better netcode not the system. fanboys these days will do w.e it takes for ppl to come to there system..

[Projectjustice]

1)The lag on PSN isn't any worse or better than 360 and that's coming from someone who plays both on a regular basis. Both networks have good and bad days, everyone know this.

2) So you're openly saying that more fighting game fans own a 360 rather than a PS3?:rofl: Do you have any facts to support this or did you just pull this out of your ass as well?

Until you have some hard evidence to back anything you're saying, your point is rubbish.

Get whatever version you want its not going to bother me. I just know Ill have the version with the better community.

XBL > PSN Fact.

[SRKev]

I just know Ill have the version with the better community.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

What the fuck does this even mean?

The OP is trying to justify a $279-$500 purchase and you're gonna say some veg shit like "better community."

I'm sick of people using that statement as if it actually has value.

[Projectjustice]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

What the fuck does this even mean?

The OP is trying to justify a $279-$500 purchase and you're gonna say some veg shit like "better community."

I'm sick of people using that statement as if it actually has value.

Ive said a bunch of other things. You just dont want to believe them.

You can only lead a horse to water.

360 version is already in playable form.:lovin:

[blazeu25]

Ive said a bunch of other things. You just dont want to believe them.

You can only lead a horse to water.

360 version is already in playable form.:lovin:

how do u no if 360 has the better community if the game is not even out?

[kyored]

I'm still waitin on the epic ''Great Features" explanation for live that's just worth paying 4 yearly over the ps3...?:wonder: ---( as far as the community goes for the 360, its not like the majority of them r fighters..)

[Saotome Kaneda]

he's an MS mole

get him

[Adam Warlock]

:u: This and the fact that the 360 have a better library of games, just incase you want to check out another game besides SF4 and SC4.

Hooray for biased opinion!

PS3 is worth the money just to avoid Project Justice's wack ass.

Ive said a bunch of other things. You just dont want to believe them.


That's because those of us who aren't retarded tend not to believe lies. When presented with viable info all you did was bullshit. Stick your dick in your 360 and die already.

[Projectjustice]

Hooray for biased opinion!

PS3 is worth the money just to avoid Project Justice's wack ass.



That's because those of us who aren't retarded tend not to believe lies. When presented with viable info all you did was bullshit. Stick your dick in your 360 and die already.

Awww did I hurt your feelings.

PS3 fanboys are so defensive.:lol:

[ulovemikeroch]

Awww did I hurt your feelings.

PS3 fanboys are so defensive.:lol:
Likewise, 360 Fanboys think they know their shit.

[Adam Warlock]

Awww did I hurt your feelings.

PS3 fanboys are so defensive.:lol:

Not at all. You heart my heart. I weep for a humanity that has you in it. You're testicular cancer to life itself. Your inability to comprehend the written word, plus the fact that you still don't understand how a PS3 is mathematically cheaper for the closest approximated Xbox configuration makes me wish that my tax dollars had been spent on an overdose of crack for you rather than education. I weep for your mother when I think of the umpteen hours she labored stretching her uterus for naught. Your birth resulted in two wasted vaginas.

Likewise, 360 Fanboys think they know their shit.

It's hilarious how it was stated that the games are equal and his reply was "Bullshit! Prove that the PS3 games are better!" That would have been a nice response if that's what was said in the first place. We realize reading isn't his strong point. Maybe one day they'll have internet on tape and he can finally understand what's being said. Or what about this little gem? "It's not bullshit! It's true but that's not what I said!" ...ok what?

[DuckHole]

how do u no if 360 has the better community if the game is not even out?


I think hes saying that xbox live has more people on it, so there for a better community? Now when it comes to better players who knows.

[Kataklysmic]

I can't believe there are still some morons who can't see ProjectJunkass for the fucking troll he is. Take your cocks out of his mouth and let the thread die. The OP's question is answered.

[Saotome Kaneda]

Now that I have ammo~

[DeathScythe]

So, PS3 has a LOT of joysticks compared to the 360. Also, there are converters FOR the PS3 which allow you to use your custom sticks and HRAP1s and 2s. I think we all know which is the logical choice here. Unless you guys want to play SFIV on a 360 pad.

[The_Reno]

Ive said a bunch of other things. You just dont want to believe them.

You can only lead a horse to water.

360 version is already in playable form.:lovin:

...And the console release will be simultaneous on both consoles, so that does nothing at all, you colossal racist.

Also, Kaneda should pos rep me for everything I say, as reparations for his repeated botching of my incredible name. You burnt-skin lookin mofo. :arazz:

[Saotome Kaneda]

Okay, this thread is done. Hope everyone got something out of this before it turned into yet another fanboy war(and someone getting baitbanned).

[Saotome Kaneda]

stfu renoI can infract you instead, if you like. =D