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Sparda
08-26-2008, 06:23 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-toogoodtopitch&prov=ap&type=lgns
gawd damn..40mph?! haha that fucker is throwing heat sinkers.
jae hoon
08-26-2008, 06:29 AM
That is fucked up, I hope that kind beans the douchebag that banned him in the testicles.
Sorry Choi you cant play SF anymore, you are too good.
"I feel sad," he said. "I feel like it’s all my fault nobody could play.":shake:
League officials suggested that Jericho play other positions, or pitch against older players or in a different league. This sounds like the right solution.
irioku
08-26-2008, 06:31 AM
40 mph at 10 is disgusting. Nolan Ryan Jr.
King9999
08-26-2008, 06:33 AM
Looks like his future with the major leagues is assured.
The Chief
08-26-2008, 06:36 AM
Umm, step yo game down!?!?
This is 2008 in America, political correctness declares that there is no losers in children's sports. Everyone gets a trophy!
Kayin
08-26-2008, 06:47 AM
Remember kids, everyone's a winner. Because all the real winners got banned!
alfaphlex
08-26-2008, 06:52 AM
Jericho’s coach and parents say the boy is being unfairly targeted because he turned down an invitation to join the defending league champion, which is sponsored by an employer of one of the league’s administrators.
that pretty much says it all. I bet if he had accepted the invitation and joined the champ team, there'd be no problem.
Sucks what they're teaching those kids: "Hey, you're too good at what you do, so you can't do it anymore." and "Hey, you guys aren't as good as he is, so give up and walk off the field".
Nagata Lock II
08-26-2008, 06:52 AM
:confused: Why doesn't he just play with older kids? They do that with hockey all the time. :confused:
Will Gotti
08-26-2008, 06:59 AM
I bet those punkass bitches on the other teams wouldn't say shit if Jericho was pitching for them. Of fucking course they wouldn't they'd be bragging about him, haters. Like the coach said he hasn't hurt anyone and is always on point. The other teams are just mad cause they're scared of getting Nolan Ryan'ed. People are bitches.
Arsenal
08-26-2008, 07:01 AM
Yeah, I agree that this situation is sending a poor message to ALL of the kids involved; if you're good at something, be prepared to be banned, if you're not as good as someone else at something, don't even try.
Kayin
08-26-2008, 07:17 AM
They're gonna regret it big time when they start losing.
Common notions are 'fair play' are far too impractical.
The Chief
08-26-2008, 07:18 AM
People are bitches.Which is exactly why this is funny. The kid obviously practiced until he broke the threshold of possibility.
This is no different than when you destroy random people at the arcade and they walk off saying "you practice too much". I would not be surprised if the coach of the quitting team is Legends of Lores father.
"Come play us! If we lose you're disqualified for over-practicing!"
Pretty soon NFL Quarterbacks will be required to intentionally throw interceptions to avoid being kicked out of the NFL.
AdverseSolutions
08-26-2008, 07:20 AM
jerrrriiccchooooo
DarthTrey
08-26-2008, 07:23 AM
:confused: Why doesn't he just play with older kids? They do that with hockey all the time. :confused:
because even then the kid plays with their own age group too.
When I was a pee wee there was a kid from another town that played at our level, the bantam level, and practiced with the 17 and up team. We never quit because he was good, we stepped our game up to try and contain him. What they are doing, as it has been stated before, is sending a horrible message to the kids.
I bet those punkass bitches on the other teams wouldn't say shit if Jericho was pitching for them. Of fucking course they wouldn't they'd be bragging about him, haters. Like the coach said he hasn't hurt anyone and is always on point. The other teams are just mad cause they're scared of getting Nolan Ryan'ed. People are bitches.
qft.
clue2025
08-26-2008, 07:29 AM
Thats fucked up. Let the kid pitch! Let him do what he's best at! Just because your team don't got him means its unfair, I mean damn. If he can do it, another 10 year old can, they just didn't want it as much. Straight up. Grown ups need to grow the fuck up! Damn, thats like kicking out top 8 at EVO or letting 2nd or 3rd or 4th place go to SBO. Oh wait, that happened with GG this year :-p
I remember a similar story recently about some really tall young girl that was banned from basketball for being too good. They were able to blame it on the fact that she was a girl and did not have to let girls play, although they always did as long as they sucked.
Ah well, i wonder if this practice is common in China or Russia.
Pat the Great
08-26-2008, 07:31 AM
i don't see what the big deal is. 40mph fastball? pffffft. If he could jump in the air, throw two baseballs, and get a guaranteed raging demon afterwards, maybe it'd be okay to ban him in competitive play.
Demon Dash
08-26-2008, 07:54 AM
Wow, the human race is really sprouting up right in front of us. Over the past couple of decades we've had almost super human like, young kids dominating sports fields. It's understandable they don't want him throwing fast balls in a league for under his age, but they damn better put him in a proper league because that's one hell of a fast ball for an eight year old.
Bounce
08-26-2008, 08:03 AM
wow, now looking for the defensive player in highschool who gets kicked of the football team for hitting too hard.
As it's a 3 year old league worried about players being too good, it just lit a fire for the 'high-powered' leagues to create a new division......smart.
AlterGenesis
08-26-2008, 08:07 AM
Having played Triple AAA rep baseball as kid, sure you'd be scared of a guy who could throw that fast. But, then why the fuck you playing baseball if you're going stop someone so talented from playing? Go to the batting cage and get used to the speed. I think a coach can do that and it raises the level of everyone else.
Serpent
08-26-2008, 08:14 AM
He's playing in a recreational co-ed league. The league said to either play with older kids or find a more competitive league.
This is like if you are a guy and you play against girls in basketball. You don't belong there, they're inferior. The girls on my HS basketball team all ranked me as a better basketball player, and I'm short and suck at the game. This is like a major league baseball player playing in double A his entire career because he doesn't want to go up to triple A or the majors. This kid isn't "too good" for the sport or his available options, he is just too good to play in the beginner's league and the only reason he wants to play in it is because he, or perhaps his parents, just want to bully people around.
And that mother is stupid. She throws a tantrum and calls the cops. Dick Masterson had a great article about this, women always run to the highest authority figure they can think of. When they're young it's their daddy, when they're older it's either a husband or the cops. I mean seriously, she should have been arrested right there for wasting police resources. What is the crime exactly? The privately run league your kid is playing for said your kid can't play and you throw a tantrum?
This article is just bullshit and irresponsible reporting designed to get idiots all emotional and to ignore logic. And you people are buying it hook line and sinker. You people think rsigley is good? The media is making you dance like puppets.
Duck Strong
08-26-2008, 08:15 AM
This is a pretty prevalent attitude in all aspects of life. Haven't any of you had to act dumber than you actually or somehow less skilled just to fit in? He probably should move on to a different league even if this whole debacle isn't really his fault.
It sucks, but it's the way of the world. People don't like being made to feel insignificant by those more talented than themselves.
AzN_Skater
08-26-2008, 08:40 AM
I agree with Serpent. If he's playing in a league that is clearly below his level, he needs to find competition elsewhere. However, if it's his first season with the league, he should be able to finish it out and than move to another league.
“He is a very skilled player, a very hard thrower,” Noble said. “There are a lot of beginners. This is not a high-powered league. This is a developmental league whose main purpose is to promote the sport.”
He sounds like a pretty damn developed player in a beginner's only league.
tataki
08-26-2008, 08:58 AM
they should compromise on a soft ban like old sagat
RaishinX
08-26-2008, 09:05 AM
i don't see what the big deal is. 40mph fastball? pffffft. If he could jump in the air, throw two baseballs, and get a guaranteed raging demon afterwards, maybe it'd be okay to ban him in competitive play.
My face...:rofl: :rofl:
Umm, step yo game down!?!?
Yes! :lol: shit is lolz.
I hope the kid can bounce back and rock some other league.
Serpent
08-26-2008, 09:08 AM
they should compromise on a soft ban like old sagat
They tried. They told him don't pitch, and he went and pitched anyway. What a tool. If he just wants to contribute to the team he coulda played 2nd base and finished out the season, and then moved onto somewhere else. At 11 you can start competing in the little league world series. Someone should follow this kid and see if he ever makes it anywhere, those kids are throwing at 70 MPH, or so I'm told.
If he is so good, why doesn't he play against better comp? Are he and his parents afraid of something? Did they try and he just didn't measure up? They admit he's too good for that league, but they don't even try to face real comp. Disgusting.
clue2025
08-26-2008, 09:10 AM
This is a pretty prevalent attitude in all aspects of life. Haven't any of you had to act dumber than you actually or somehow less skilled just to fit in?
Uh no. If someone doesn't like me for me then fuck'em. They aren't worth the time. The ONLY time to act less skilled is if you're takin someone's money and the only time to act dumber than you are is... oh wait, never.
OK, fine, he should play in a different league. But if the defending champions wanted him and he said no, and he was banned AFTER that, then theres gotta be somethin else goin on.
AzN_Skater
08-26-2008, 09:10 AM
They tried. They told him don't pitch, and he went and pitched anyway. What a tool. If he just wants to contribute to the team he coulda played 2nd base and finished out the season, and then moved onto somewhere else. At 11 you can start competing in the little league world series. Someone should follow this kid and see if he ever makes it anywhere, those kids are throwing at 70 MPH, or so I'm told.
If he is so good, why doesn't he play against better comp? Are he and his parents afraid of something? Did they try and he just didn't measure up? They admit he's too good for that league, but they don't even try to face real comp. Disgusting.
I think he plateau'd at scrub tier. :rofl:
AlterGenesis
08-26-2008, 09:11 AM
He needs to stop throwing Tiger Shots and start letting go fierce Kikoukens. They don't go full screen.
Saotome Kaneda
08-26-2008, 10:08 AM
I read this on Fark yesterday. There was more to this than just the kid being banned, they were trying to dismantle the whole team, and the guy sponsoring the team he was to be traded to was trying to hook up one of his friends.
ryu-bi
08-26-2008, 10:19 AM
I bet they cant hit his changeup either...
FOBio
08-26-2008, 10:52 AM
If what "This is a developmental league whose main purpose is to promote the sport" is true, then maybe he SHOULD go to a different league. That is, if there is another league offered.
Serpent
08-26-2008, 11:04 AM
If what "This is a developmental league whose main purpose is to promote the sport" is true, then maybe he SHOULD go to a different league. That is, if there is another league offered.
There is, I've been talking to and posting on other boards that have people that played at those ages. Widespread consensus is basically what I posted earlier, meaning the first page is full of complete idiots dancing the to the media's puppet strings, as I said before. Except Nagata, I think he got it since his comment looked like he did.
Anyway here's some posts from a baseball board, it didn't take them 25 posts like you idiots:
Well that was great sportsmanship now wasn't it.
If the league officials told the parents that he should be pitching in a higher league everything the mother says about "Finding something he loves and working on it is moot" She is just another soccer mom who wants to sit around and tell everyone how dominant her son is.
This sound like alot of political BS on both sides and it sucks cause all the kid wants to do is play ball. I'm sure to him it doesn't matter if he is playing against 7-8 yr olds or 9-10 yrs old. He just want to go out for an hour or two and play ball.
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If the kid is that good move him to another league. If this is in fact a "developmental" league I can kind of see not wanting this kid pitching. The kids are out there trying to learn some things and they're not going to learn anything when they have to face a kid who is head and shoulders better than them. He would be better served moving up against some better kids anyway.
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I really have to question whether his speed is 40 mph and that is what has this league concerned.
I caoched 7 and 8 years olds in a machine pitch league and we set the machine typically at 37 mph. And at that speed, from 45 ft, the pitch develops an arc.
40mph is not fast at that age.
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Im 14 and I throw 55, and some of my friends throw 60-65. I would think theres a lot of kids who threw 30+ and 9 years old.
This kid is getting hype all because he throws fast, pitching is more than throwing fast. Your probably saying 55 is not fast for 14years old, but I have an effective curveball, and im only getting stronger. I doubt he can throw curves and sliders. Put him in the 11-12 year old league and he will get rocked.
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Most school leagues suck, the best players are all on some sort of AAU or travel team.
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yea it is very common for 9-10yr old kids to throw that hard they just dont get recognized for it because they are usually in leagues that are more suited for there skill level.. just move the kid up to a higher division and stop making such a fuss about this.. when i was 10 there were plenty of kids throwing 45-50 from 45ft and it was coming pretty hard. just wait til next year when that same kid has to throw from 60ft and see if he can throw with the same velocity. it wont happen
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SRK, Step YO game up. You morons.
Raziel321
08-26-2008, 11:04 AM
"I’d rather he spend all his time on the baseball field than idolizing someone standing on the street corner."
racist innuendos ftw
Will Gotti
08-26-2008, 11:35 AM
Besides the point of it being a developmental league, people would still not make a fuss about something if it was benefiting them.
Sonichuman
08-26-2008, 11:41 AM
wow that's fuckin retarded. What has come over the world of competitive shit nowadays?
Edit: Almost sounds like when people were starting to talk about banning Snake and MK in Brawl
Well, the MLB has probably found this article. If this kid continues playing, expect him to be drafted eventually. Too good.
ckrazy
08-26-2008, 11:46 AM
You know the major league teams and all top colleges are now going to secretly scout this kid now.
You know the major league teams and all top colleges are now going to secretly scout this kid now.
secretly or blantantly.
Carpet Lint
08-26-2008, 02:30 PM
I don't think there's a problem at all with asking this kid and his family to play in a more competitive league. That happens all the time. And if the officials for a developmental league are worried that this kid might bean another sissier kid whose primary goal is just to learn how to play baseball...then I think that's a legitimate request, especially since they're offering to refund the membership, and allow him to play other positions.
Fucking tool went and pitched the next game even though he was told not to? That's just the heart of America quality douchebaggery right there.
What's with his mom? What a bitch. Who the fuck calls the cops over trivial bullshit like this?
Put the kid in a more competitive league - there's dozens for every patch of dirt in North Amercia - or move him up an age bracket until he gets into a league that'll have him. It's not hard.
All the kid wants to do is play, so of course, typically, his hippyass liberal whitebread parents have to turn this shit into some national political protest instead of just signing him up for another league and letting their son play some fuckin' baseball. Honestly, give me a break.
Stuff like this happens all the time. I'm goofing around in a co-ed softball league this summer at rec level (F) and there's a team in our division that is murdering the entire league, they went 16-0 and had an average margin of victory of like 10 runs. They were like the US Dream Team against the rest of the world back in 1992 when basketball hadn't even been invented in half the countries they played. Next year, the league is going to bump them up two levels to D, and if they don't like it, then they can join another league.
I mean that's just a random example of how badly sports leagues all over wnat to keep their level of competition accurate to what's advertised.
If this is a rec league with a bunch of fat gimp kids that "just want to have fun" and the kid's throwing Little League heat at them that's so hard it makes them piss their pants...then maybe he should find another league.
For the other kids and himself. He's not going to get any better playing against losers - the whole point is to get to the highest most competitive level where you can improve by just playing against higher quality competition.
If his parents are interested in having a kid with an MLB salary support them in their old age, this is clearly not the route they should be taking.
If they're just interested in using their kid as a form of protest in some misguided, meaningless political statement against a rec baseball league...then they're right on track.
ThePurpleBunny
08-26-2008, 03:20 PM
You know the major league teams and all top colleges are now going to secretly scout this kid now.
Headline: Mariners draft 9-year old phenom #1 overall; sign him to 30-year contract.
*Onslaught*
08-26-2008, 03:34 PM
So who is going to be the one here to ban Justin Wong from Marvel?
AmbiguousCrosup
08-26-2008, 03:44 PM
Headline: Mariners draft 9-year old phenom #1 overall; sign him to 30-year contract.
Rookie of the Year much?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107985/plotsummary
ckrazy
08-26-2008, 03:46 PM
Headline: Mariners draft 9-year old phenom #1 overall; sign him to 30-year contract.
So how much is it to book season ticket 15 year from now? :rofl:
Just saw this shit earlier on PTI. From what it look like this kid parents are going to be making some good $$$$ these upcoming months.
Serpent
08-26-2008, 03:49 PM
What's with his mom? What a bitch. Who the fuck calls the cops over trivial bullshit like this?
If they're just interested in using their kid as a form of protest in some misguided, meaningless political statement against a rec baseball league...then they're right on track.
She's a soccer mom that just wants to sit around and brag about how her son is dominating. Look at how stupid most of SRK is, do you think a group of stupid ass women is going to be able to figure out that bullying around a co-ed rec league isn't impressive?
They probably know he'd shit the bed against decent comp, so they're milking this.
mastermind
08-26-2008, 03:56 PM
40 mph at 10 is disgusting. Nolan Ryan Jr.
Just for clarification (read: the sake of being anal-retentive), the Nolan Ryan we know of in MLB actually IS Nolan Ryan, Jr. :sweat:
Captain Ryu
08-26-2008, 03:58 PM
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Dead on. Did nobody else read the entire article?
Dasrik
08-26-2008, 04:01 PM
While I agree with Serpent's points, mostly, this was too good to not put in my sig:
Remember kids, everyone's a winner. Because all the real winners got banned!
Posting it on SRK will no doubt cause people to reminisce of the "Sabin is banned from Maryland" controversy from awhile back, but that's kind of apples and oranges.
Vynce
08-26-2008, 04:18 PM
I can relate to this kid. My girl just started the curse early; clearly her womb's attempt at self-preservation. Therefore, this thread's title applies to me, too.</internet pimp>
I think this situation is kind of silly, really. The kid shouldn't have to play against older boys, necessarily...However, if he's serious about baseball, he ought to be doing that anyway. Sports are like fighting games.
fistoftheryustar
08-26-2008, 06:33 PM
waits for some cocky ass person to post in and say:
"damn little kids and baseball?? i read the title and thought that was all about ME!"
HeartNana
08-26-2008, 06:49 PM
So who is going to be the one here to ban Justin Wong from Marvel?
The difference is, Justin is playing against the best.
I kind of have an example of this.
For those who don't know, I was a hardcore Soul Calibur II player. The game got pretty popular, so it was more mainstream than most fighters. I would go to tourneys 2x a week, and just constantly play.
Anyways, I went to this music festival in Wisconsin, and they had casual gaming competitions. They had 2 per day for each day that the fest was going on (like 7 days or 14 days or something), and so i saw that they had SC2. This is right after it came out for console, and i was playing it at the arcades for a year already at this point, while other people just started. I went and entered, and of course easily won (free games as prizes, hell yea). I then played again that night, and again, easily won. The guys running it came up to me and asked me if i was entering again. I told them I was only here for the one day, and they pretty much said that if I was to stay longer, I would have to be forced to use a handicap so that other people can win.
The point of the whole thing wasnt really to find the best, it was just for casual players to go against each other, and for one random person to be the champion of the tournament. They did NOT want the exact same person winning everytime. If I stayed there longer, I would have essentially been banned for being too good. But the thing is, its similar to this where I was playing in a league way below mine. There were NO other competitive players. Barely anyone else even knew how to block. I could literally pick random select and rape. On an old Xbox pad, no less. This league that the kid is in is way below his range, and its for kids who are all about the same level of bad to learn and play against each other, rather than to have one kid just rape.
If I was to go to a tourney where there's other competitive players, even if I'm winning every tourney, im still playing against other good competitive players, im not playing in a level way below mine of casual players.
It seems like the kids on the other team were just casual players, and this competitive pitcher comes in, and they know theyre gonna lose, and its essentially futile. I dont blame them for quitting. Who here has ever tried a game out at an arcade or something just to have someone whos way better come up and play you and destroy you while youre still learning what the buttons are? Its the same shit, you dont want to play against that, so why bother. You could ask nicely "hey, can you give me a chance to learn?" and the kid refusing to not pitch is the same as that guy saying "no, im gonna play as hard as i can against you, even tho youre a newbie to the game"
Granted, its your credit so you can spend it anyway you want, just as he can technically join the league if he wants (and technically I was able to join the music fest tournaments), but there reaches a point when you just extent it to douchebaggery, as its said. He needs to find people his own level if he wants to get better, cause hes essentially just beating up on scrubs. I like winning, but I prefer to fight against better competition, i dont see how he gets satisfaction playing against kids that he KNOWS sucks, especially compared to him. Then again, as people said, its prolly mostly his parents. He just wants to play, they want to see him always win. Its a shame.
WARNA BROTHER
08-26-2008, 07:51 PM
Serpent, HearNana, etc. made good points about why he should be in another leaugue, but the thing about this situation is all the underhanded fishiness that seems to be going on.
1st: Why did it take 8 weeks for them to finally say, "Alright, fuck this shit. Let's ban him." if they were going to do it, they should have limited him much earlier. Like during the 1st couple of games when he 1st shown his greatness upon them.
2nd: There were recruitment efforts (maybe not much, but still) made to get him on the reigning champion team. this shows that they knew of his skill before this season started up. Why not ban him then and place him in a better suited situation?
3rd: The boss of a league administrator who is trying to defend his title gets turned down by the kid (probably his family), the boss sees him go off on a winning streak that probably won't end, and then all of a sudden the team gets disband orders to completely demolish the team.
Sounds like some little league gangsta shit going on.
Nah.. it was a coincidence. The reigning champions were just trying to get a nice kid on their team; they didn't know he was that good. Also it took 8 games to ban them because they didn't notice it before...yeah, yeah. And the league administrator wasn't trying to secure his real life job by dismantling the team, he was just being fair.
Yup.
Pat the Great
08-26-2008, 07:56 PM
i don't see what the big deal is. 40mph fastball? pffffft. If he could jump in the air, throw two baseballs, and get a guaranteed raging demon afterwards, maybe it'd be okay to ban him in competitive play.
wow, someone negged me for this. ST Akuma fans in the house? :rofl:
pherai
08-26-2008, 08:08 PM
Anyways, I went to this music festival in Wisconsin, and they had casual gaming competitions. They had 2 per day for each day that the fest was going on (like 7 days or 14 days or something), and so i saw that they had SC2. This is right after it came out for console, and i was playing it at the arcades for a year already at this point, while other people just started. I went and entered, and of course easily won (free games as prizes, hell yea). I then played again that night, and again, easily won. The guys running it came up to me and asked me if i was entering again. I told them I was only here for the one day, and they pretty much said that if I was to stay longer, I would have to be forced to use a handicap so that other people can win.
The point of the whole thing wasnt really to find the best, it was just for casual players to go against each other, and for one random person to be the champion of the tournament. They did NOT want the exact same person winning everytime. If I stayed there longer, I would have essentially been banned for being too good.
I understand your point, although I think they were in the wrong to try to not get you to participate. If you want a casual tourney, don't offer up big prizes. It might as well just be a raffle if people aren't allowed to seriously compete for the prizes being offered.
xero15
08-26-2008, 08:14 PM
yeah i saw this earlier today as well. sucks for the kid but um does that mean we can ban jwong from tourneys now???
epp1e
08-26-2008, 08:27 PM
You just put me in the mood to rewatch Season 1 of Major for like the 40th time... and then probably season 2 & 3 as well.
Edit: And yeah, I worry about having kids cause of how the next generation's shaping up to be. 2081 much? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKHzFWkH0Po
WARNA BROTHER
08-26-2008, 11:00 PM
Edit: And yeah, I worry about having kids cause of how the next generation's shaping up to be. 2081 much? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKHzFWkH0Po
That movie has got to be great. I remember that story from when I was in grade school. It's a great story that depicts a scary dystopic society. Reminds me of 1981, brave new world, and even the giver(6th grade ftw). Great books.
It's funny that 2081 can be related to this situation so well. Maybe they should give the kid a heavier ball and make him throw left handed.
P.S. Do you know how to get hold of 2081. It says that it came out on 8/16, but where?
AzN_Skater
08-26-2008, 11:09 PM
Whoa, thanks for that link to 2081. That looks awesome. Probably limited release?
El Maniatico
08-26-2008, 11:23 PM
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manji187
08-27-2008, 12:15 AM
the first thing I thought when I read the posts....
http://www.geocities.com/maiyeng/Shoma_profile.html
Starhammer
08-27-2008, 12:23 AM
Serpent, HearNana, etc. made good points about why he should be in another leaugue, but the thing about this situation is all the underhanded fishiness that seems to be going on.
1st: Why did it take 8 weeks for them to finally say, "Alright, fuck this shit. Let's ban him." if they were going to do it, they should have limited him much earlier. Like during the 1st couple of games when he 1st shown his greatness upon them.
2nd: There were recruitment efforts (maybe not much, but still) made to get him on the reigning champion team. this shows that they knew of his skill before this season started up. Why not ban him then and place him in a better suited situation?
3rd: The boss of a league administrator who is trying to defend his title gets turned down by the kid (probably his family), the boss sees him go off on a winning streak that probably won't end, and then all of a sudden the team gets disband orders to completely demolish the team.
Sounds like some little league gangsta shit going on.
Nah.. it was a coincidence. The reigning champions were just trying to get a nice kid on their team; they didn't know he was that good. Also it took 8 games to ban them because they didn't notice it before...yeah, yeah. And the league administrator wasn't trying to secure his real life job by dismantling the team, he was just being fair.
Yup.
That's basically what I've been wondering. I've been watching this on the news for what little they've shown (checking that link as we speak) and it just feels like some shady, haterade shit was going on in the background. Yeah, if the kid is after competition, he should stop hanging with scrubs. if he just wants to play......................He should still stop hanging with scrubs. they're gonna keep crying "CHEAP!" everytime he launches a ball at the plate. Been there, heard it all before.
-Starhammer-
OrangeCat
08-27-2008, 12:23 AM
She's a soccer mom that just wants to sit around and brag about how her son is dominating. Look at how stupid most of SRK is, do you think a group of stupid ass women is going to be able to figure out that bullying around a co-ed rec league isn't impressive?
They probably know he'd shit the bed against decent comp, so they're milking this.
Now hear ye hear ye. Who thoust can hitteth the ball of eternal speedflame thrownth by my 9-year old son, can be crowned the King of England!
Perhaps this is a call to arms to bring the comp to their house rather than them having to search for it.
OC
Jion_Wansu
08-27-2008, 12:27 AM
Sounds like the "Sorry you can't use Akuma because he's too good" in ST argument :smile:
sainthuey
08-27-2008, 12:55 AM
40 mph is not THAT fast:rolleyes:
makes me realize, it's not that the kid pitches too fast, the other kids just don't practice enough:rofl::rofl:
40 mph is not THAT fast:rolleyes:
makes me realize, it's not that the kid pitches too fast, the other kids just don't practice enough:rofl::rofl:
lol kid shoulda went to the other teams and been like....stop yo bitchassness and step yo game up.
lol@ step yo game down.
Bob Sagat
08-27-2008, 01:09 AM
Sounds like the "Sorry you can't use Akuma because he's too good" in ST argument :smile:
You're as quick as that kid's balls. Just not the ones he's throwing...
Dhalsimowns
08-27-2008, 03:28 AM
40 mph is not THAT fast:rolleyes:
makes me realize, it's not that the kid pitches too fast, the other kids just don't practice enough:rofl::rofl:
I am not sure if your being sarcastic, but, for real, 40mph is not all godly or anything. I am pretty sure I was in the cages hitting them at that speed when I was around 8-10. Acually, I was. My 5th grade birthday party. I remeber it now, and the 40mphish cage was the standard for kids our age. I know it was the slowest one in the building. The good kids even went to the faster cages.
SwmmrManShen
08-27-2008, 05:05 AM
Edit: im going to make a more educated response now
I feel like the actions taken by the league may have been too severe. It would not have been hard to let the team finish out the season. That being said, none of these news outlets are giving a full story, simply one that will give you the jist of it, even if its not completely true.
Bounce
08-27-2008, 05:48 AM
D-league or not:
Banning a child and ending their season early does not teach any children anything. The child who gets banned (even if they were requested not to play a position for the safety of others), get a real bad lesson in sportsmanship like 'If you turn out to be good at something hold back or else'. For the child who are 'protected' it just enforces the idea that they are tiered that 'While some people say you have a chance to be good, it's not safe'.
If 40mph is not fast for this age then the argument of safety diminishes. A D-league with above average player will ultimately increase the talent pool.
If the League was truly concerned with the safety of the game, they would scrutinize the kids pitches harder, as this game ultimately falls within the umpires hand.
Douchebag or not, the kid was right to play his position that night, as was the forefit (a coaches job is to protect the team, even if it makes you look like shit at the begining.
the rants done.
Bounce=
Kayin
08-27-2008, 05:52 AM
Sounds like the "Sorry you can't use Akuma because he's too good" in ST argument :smile:
Aren't you the guy that thinks MKA is a good competitive game? :rofl:
yeah i saw this earlier today as well. sucks for the kid but um does that mean we can ban jwong from tourneys now???
it wouldnt be unheard of. I remember somewhere here people banning players because they were too good. There was a big thread about it and everything. The logic was that tournys kept getting really low turnouts because some good players kept winning. So the new tournaments were even advertised as banning those players from coming and turnout increased. More fun and profit was had.
Although they have the right to run their tournament as they want, i dont think its right for something unpopular enough to never have enough people to form leagues.
Will Gotti
08-27-2008, 09:11 AM
Serpent, HearNana, etc. made good points about why he should be in another leaugue, but the thing about this situation is all the underhanded fishiness that seems to be going on.
1st: Why did it take 8 weeks for them to finally say, "Alright, fuck this shit. Let's ban him." if they were going to do it, they should have limited him much earlier. Like during the 1st couple of games when he 1st shown his greatness upon them.
2nd: There were recruitment efforts (maybe not much, but still) made to get him on the reigning champion team. this shows that they knew of his skill before this season started up. Why not ban him then and place him in a better suited situation?
3rd: The boss of a league administrator who is trying to defend his title gets turned down by the kid (probably his family), the boss sees him go off on a winning streak that probably won't end, and then all of a sudden the team gets disband orders to completely demolish the team.
Sounds like some little league gangsta shit going on.
Nah.. it was a coincidence. The reigning champions were just trying to get a nice kid on their team; they didn't know he was that good. Also it took 8 games to ban them because they didn't notice it before...yeah, yeah. And the league administrator wasn't trying to secure his real life job by dismantling the team, he was just being fair.
Yup.
According to Serpent, apparently page one is full of idiots and morons who didn't think about any of this.
AlterGenesis
08-27-2008, 09:27 AM
The kid is like 9, though. It would be one thing if he was litter older and playing down in AA when he's AAA material, but when you're that age sometimes you're just better. When I was 7 playing basketball, I was brought up to score points. Granted, I couldn't play a lick of defense. The other kids hadn't been able to score a ton of points yet. I'm not saying I was anything special, but it's not uncommon for a talented player to show-up in house league or what have you.
They're too young to be making a big deal out of this. Plus, the rest of the story sounds shady as well.
HeartNana
08-27-2008, 06:18 PM
I understand your point, although I think they were in the wrong to try to not get you to participate. If you want a casual tourney, don't offer up big prizes. It might as well just be a raffle if people aren't allowed to seriously compete for the prizes being offered.
Well, they werent big prizes, it was a free crappy game (enough to get like, 10-15 bucks from gamestop), and then a picture holding their "soul calibur" sword that they had made along with the two music fest chicks or something.
It wasnt huge, and its not like they were giving away the sword for free at the end, or like, an xbox or anything. Obviously with them doing 2x a day, they couldnt give out really good prizes, which is why they wanted me to not participate, or do it with a handicap at the end. One day was all I was there for, so it didnt matter anyways, but I would have played along had i been there longer.
At the end, when they were interviewing me (lol) this fat guy who was in the audience got really mad and said I was too good and started saying that it was BS and unfair. The guy interviewing me was all "hey dude, thats not cool." So they were on my side anyways. I don't like being the badguy, you know? lol
gunners
08-27-2008, 06:23 PM
I don't think their actions are wrong to be honest, he should play in a higher aged league. At least that's what happens in the UK.
Shit like that stunts other kids growth as they don't get experience, it's also demoralising. It should be allowed so some parents can stroke their ego ''Dam look at my kid own your team''.
Age limits were set up so you had people on similar levels playing one another, he should move a age limit/divison where the people can compete.
Tiberious
08-27-2008, 10:20 PM
I had a similar thing happen when I was growing, except my sport was bowling. As well as essentially having a free year because of the YABA's rules (the cutoff was the 1st of the month, my birthday is the 24th of that same month), I was also quite talented, enough so to win the high average award for the state two years in a row at actual ages 8 and 9 (record-keeping ages: 7 and 8). Had the organization kept track of the national top 10 averages, I probably would have been in it.
Where my parents differed in their approach to this was I got moved up to bowl with the next higher level (at '8', I was technically Bantam, but I was bowling with the Preps). The house I was at awarded everything based on actual lists, so it was very possible that one person could sweep all the end-of-league awards. In order to be fair to the rest of my 'peers', as well as to be fair to me, as I really needed good competition, I moved up as my skill required.
One interesting result is a parent of a fellow league bowler who held her kid back with the intention of performing a clean sweep at the end became absolutely incensed when I actually ended up acing him out of high game. The kid I beat out was cool with it, but the mother... not so much.
TrueSephiroth
08-28-2008, 02:42 AM
Umm, step yo game down!?!?
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
We have a little "Superboy" in our mists..can you imagine being another 9 yr old playing Dodge Ball or having a snow ball fight with this kid, :china:
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