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shinblanka
11-26-2008, 05:26 AM
I just got the game on ps3 and I was wondering how was the online gameplay for everyone for both ps3 and 360. With people/friends I know live close to me the games are flawless, but when I go to aa quick ranked battle the gameplay gets shitty. Maybe the people are across the world and that why there's a shitty connection. All but 4 lost I have are because of super laggy match when people are popping in and out of the screen! I wish they had a way to put the nations flag by the players name! Atleast you would know if you are playing against someone in europe or south america. We all know how bad the connection is with SA players from playing on ggpo and 2df. I would personally aviod play them if I could because I've never had a good connection with SA players! Talk and discuss.

KING
11-26-2008, 05:50 AM
i'm having an incredible blast on the 360 version.

after i fixed the smoothing, it was too good.

tons of great games in player matches.

shinblanka
11-26-2008, 06:00 AM
i'm having an incredible blast on the 360 version.

after i fixed the smoothing, it was too good.

tons of great games in player matches.

What did you set it too? I know its on medium on defaut. Should I set it on high?

SweetJohnnyV
11-26-2008, 06:07 AM
So far the 360 version is better.

KING
11-26-2008, 06:08 AM
What did you set it too? I know its on medium on defaut. Should I set it on high?

i tried "low" and there was the occasional rollback; i didn't account for people with crappy connections, so i left it at "medium".

It's been top-tier thus far.

after 2 hours playing people from west, central, and east coast in Player Match, it was too good.
:lovin::woot::lovin:

my verdict?

XBL >>>>>>>>>>>> PSN

arstal
11-26-2008, 07:03 AM
I guess it depends on what you value more.

Better online play- 360
Ability to use those PS2 controllers- PS3

I don't have a PS2 or a PS2 stick anymore, and my job makes offline comp impossible to get most of the time, so 360 for me.

That win with everyone acheivement is really killing me though in terms of losses. I suck with Hawk bigtime.

TornadoFlame
11-26-2008, 07:08 AM
I'm gonna get it for both Friday but I'm loving PSN due to Stick/Controller.

deadfrog
11-26-2008, 07:32 AM
I've been having verrrry occasional difficulty connecting to games on PSN. I'm on an internet connection that's generally problematic... shoddy Canadian cable, haha. GGPO and 2DF have almost always worked fine with me though.

Is it just my personal connection, or is it actually PSN? Have any other PS3 users been experiencing this? What about on 360?

I don't really mind it, it happens rarely enough that it's hardly a bother, but slightly more often than I'd expect for the normal frequency of people randomly quitting while they wait for an opponent.

Digitalbooty
11-26-2008, 07:39 AM
I guess it depends on what you value more.

Better online play- 360
Ability to use those PS2 controllers- PS3

I don't have a PS2 or a PS2 stick anymore, and my job makes offline comp impossible to get most of the time, so 360 for me.

That win with everyone acheivement is really killing me though in terms of losses. I suck with Hawk bigtime.

I have 360 joysticks. I played the ps3 version for a few hours at a friends house, then came home and played on my 360. Seems like the 360 version has better online play, so far.

volatile
11-26-2008, 07:51 AM
Seems like the 360 version has better online play, so far.

I don't really get this. Wouldn't the games networking code be the same for both platforms? So wouldn't that code dictate how the game plays online. The only difference, it would seem to me, between PSN and 360 would be the community tools, aka 360 might be easier to communicate with friends and join games easier.

But how would the game play differ online with the 360 and the PS3? Realistically the game data sent over the internet is all peer to peer, so the gameplay code is probably the same. I couldn't see them writing extremely different code for both systems unless the PS3's architecture required it.

Is that wrong, or is there something I am not accounting for? While I do program, I don't work on videogames so I could be way off here.

Pablo_the_Mex
11-26-2008, 08:49 AM
I had fantastic games on PSN. Guess I will have to get the 360 version later today. Except that I have no american sticks for it which sucks.

crackbone
11-26-2008, 09:42 AM
I don't really get this. Wouldn't the games networking code be the same for both platforms? So wouldn't that code dictate how the game plays online. The only difference, it would seem to me, between PSN and 360 would be the community tools, aka 360 might be easier to communicate with friends and join games easier.

But how would the game play differ online with the 360 and the PS3? Realistically the game data sent over the internet is all peer to peer, so the gameplay code is probably the same. I couldn't see them writing extremely different code for both systems unless the PS3's architecture required it.

Is that wrong, or is there something I am not accounting for? While I do program, I don't work on videogames so I could be way off here.

That's a gross oversimplification of the process. There are lots of factors that could affect the connection internally, or it just might be less players/ more geographical distant connections creating lag.

volatile
11-26-2008, 10:08 AM
That's a gross oversimplification of the process. There are lots of factors that could affect the connection internally, or it just might be less players/ more geographical distant connections creating lag.

I am aware of all that, but all the things you stated (short of number of players) isn't really platform specific. So saying 'X' is better would be more stating opinion than fact.

Although the 360 had a beta, so there could be bugs they ironed out with the beta for the 360 and then bugs/issues might come up after release that are PS3 specific. So the 360 version could very well be more polished and 'play better'.

Getting a true apples to apples comparison, in terms of which plays better online 360 vs ps3, would take a bit of work. And in reality I don't think many truly care enough to attempt to setup an apples to apples test.

Regardless I hope they patch the game because there are some things that need to be fixed, but in all honesty I doubt a patch will be released. Hope I am wrong.

Of course the only reason I am even typing this is because I am killing time until I get home and play the game... tick... tick... tick!

EDIT: I should stop because it makes it look like a care which one is better, but in reality I don't. I just like to dig into the logic of people who make comments of 'X' is better than 'Y'. Just see what turns up. The person might be right.. might be wrong.

Spider-Dan
11-26-2008, 10:32 AM
The most obvious difference between the two is that the 360 version uses Xbox LIVE's servers, whereas the PS3 version uses PSN's servers.

volatile
11-26-2008, 10:42 AM
The most obvious difference between the two is that the 360 version uses Xbox LIVE's servers, whereas the PS3 version uses PSN's servers.

The game is most likely peer to peer. I wouldn't imagine that they are running dedicated servers for a game that has max of 6 players.

So how would XBL's servers make a difference? I honestly don't know, not trying to be a dick here.

vtrickzv
11-26-2008, 11:06 AM
Yea, I'd assume is was peer to peer too. I doubt the servers would have much if any effect on the game.

zerojay
11-26-2008, 11:18 AM
I am aware of all that, but all the things you stated (short of number of players) isn't really platform specific. So saying 'X' is better would be more stating opinion than fact.

Although the 360 had a beta, so there could be bugs they ironed out with the beta for the 360 and then bugs/issues might come up after release that are PS3 specific. So the 360 version could very well be more polished and 'play better'.

Getting a true apples to apples comparison, in terms of which plays better online 360 vs ps3, would take a bit of work. And in reality I don't think many truly care enough to attempt to setup an apples to apples test.

Regardless I hope they patch the game because there are some things that need to be fixed, but in all honesty I doubt a patch will be released. Hope I am wrong.

Of course the only reason I am even typing this is because I am killing time until I get home and play the game... tick... tick... tick!

EDIT: I should stop because it makes it look like a care which one is better, but in reality I don't. I just like to dig into the logic of people who make comments of 'X' is better than 'Y'. Just see what turns up. The person might be right.. might be wrong.

See my post here: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5784291&postcount=7524

volatile
11-26-2008, 11:40 AM
See my post here: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5784291&postcount=7524

I already like this post... detailed!

I learned something from your post; so thank you :).

zerojay
11-26-2008, 12:12 PM
After lurking here for years, I'm glad I can give something back.

Arxinal
11-26-2008, 12:29 PM
So anyone know which version will be used at Evo? PS3/360?

Syxx573
11-26-2008, 12:33 PM
PSN is great!

Master_Amado
11-26-2008, 12:43 PM
I have both a ps3 and a 360 in the same room on same network and so far the 360 version seems to be smoother on line less lag for matches with the same ping and less random disconnects for me.

HeaTBlazn
11-27-2008, 08:31 AM
anybody have trouble connecting with quickmatch with psn?

Rhythm1c
11-27-2008, 02:59 PM
so anyone know which version will be used at evo? Ps3/360?



ps3.


http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5615143&postcount=6

Keits
11-27-2008, 03:05 PM
Really, only the opinions of those who have played both matter in this discussion.

blazeu25
11-27-2008, 03:11 PM
damn ppl r still with this 360 is better bs lol. i still havent found any problems for psn other then some glitches that both versions have anyways. just stick of what u have there both good. im having a blast on psn and pretty sure ppl r doing the same on 360. so stop with the console war BS. i think the mods should have a rule if someone starts with a console war argument just ban there ass.

SaBrE
11-27-2008, 03:47 PM
well, i do think what is important, is to really know which game is more consistent offline, for tourney purposes. but yes, console war shit needs to leave this board. we need concrete info on how well each version plays offline when it comes to glitches. it would suck with evo going with a version that could be really bad for tourney(random disappearing sprites, hud glitch, etc...).

online play, in regards to lag, is almost irrelevant to argue about, between the consoles. its moot point. you cant compare the 2, its damn near impossible to get the exact same connection environments over and over to thoroughly test. people are enjoying it on both consoles, lets leave it at that.

no more theory/assumption bs.

lets get facts

Runyun
11-27-2008, 03:56 PM
So anyone know which version will be used at Evo? PS3/360?

The 360-only beta tends to suggest that, like many cross platform games, HD Remix was developed on 360 hardware and ported to PS3. My guess is that the Xbox 360 version will be the definitive tournament version.

GunflameBuri
11-27-2008, 04:03 PM
i'd say i noticed nothing different outside of the fact that the Hori EX2 stick SUCKS vs using your own stick.

On a serious note, I've had some random lag/slowdown/jumps on the PSN, but im on a wireless network. I'm sure if I plugged it in that prob would be fixed. Havent had any probs connecting to Quickmatch or had ANY drops via PSN. XBL is XBL.

EDIT: Above poster's wrong guess is wrong, as previously pointed out.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5788799&postcount=24

Unless Mr.Wiz changes his mind. Also, it wouldnt make sense IMO for it to be devved on 360 hardware but released on PS3 first? Hmm...

Runyun
11-27-2008, 04:14 PM
They're probably going to run the PS3 version because it's compatible with controller adapters and has more joystick options right now.

SaBrE
11-27-2008, 05:25 PM
They're probably going to run the PS3 version because it's compatible with controller adapters and has more joystick options right now.

no shit, we already know that. thats not what is being asked or talked about. i msaying it will be good to figure out now, if ps3 version is stable off line, 100%, before evo comes around, so if it needs to be switch ed to 360 format, or just drop the game alltogether, is important to figure out.

i dunno about you guys. but i would hate to have my game on the line in a big tourney and all of a sudden sprites disappear, which i keep hearing of on the ps3. some claim its happening offline, which is a massive cause of concern

Warrior's Dreams
11-27-2008, 05:36 PM
I've had more disconnects on PS3, but I've had more "choppy" matches on 360. In my experience, I've come across more people who seem to know what theyre doing on 360 than PS3 (no disrespect).