Are you gaming in HD?

[Koga316]

Well are ya? I am! I have a 32" Samsung LCD HDTV. It's native is 720p but can output an downscaled 1080i. Games look awesome on it!

[Grog]

Depends, have an old 27" CRT I play fighters on due to lag, but other not so input intensive games I'll play on my 50" DLP. Yes they sit next to each other and it looks rediculous :rofl:

[Ferdinandz]

Nah, probably won't be for at least another 6+months/1yr as I sold my 360 and won't be getting a ps3 until a couple of games I want are out.

Got a 30" CRT for my ps2 which works perfectly.

[Darko]

Yes sir, full 1080p 50' plasma, upgraded from a 32' 1080p lcd. I see no difference in gaming quality however movies look much better on the plasma.

[Mno]

40" Tube TV for HD-Lag Games.

46" Sharp Aquos for Movies/PS3.

[AcEtUrNeDjOkEr]

67" Samsung DLP with HDMI goodness :woot:

[Koga316]

67" Samsung DLP with HDMI goodness :woot:

R...really!? That's a big ass TV! O_O

[Worthless]

Well are ya? I am! I have a 32" Samsung LCD HDTV. It's native is 720p but can output an downscaled 1080i. Games look awesome on it!

Thats the same tv i have!

Awesome!

[AcEtUrNeDjOkEr]

R...really!? That's a big ass TV! O_O

Yup, Slim LED DLP; needless to say everything looks great on this mammoth.:rofl:

[Vy Low]

Same as OP. Those Sammys are extremely good value for money.

Looking for an excuse to upgrade to 1080p later this year when I move...again...

[AzN_Skater]

92" 720p LCD Projector. Panasonic AX-200U.

[Shusty]

720p 32'' LCD HDTV. I have to return it because dead pixel are on the screen.

[dirzzt360]

50" sammy plasma. I had a 50"mitsu dlp that busted. I had a 57" "cant remember brand" dlp that busted. Looks good, no game lag. I sit about 12 feet from it.

[Elixir]

I have a 32" Samsung for my PS3 (HDMI), my monitor that I'm typing on for my 360 (VGA) and sitting beside it, a 17" CRT monitor which I play PS2 stuff with (via XRGB-2+ upscan converter).

So, yes. My tv has input lag for stuff like PS2 fighters, so getting an upscaler was the next best thing. And I'm so glad that I did this too, because it's a really great converter. Games look great and I'm having a lot of fun playing through some older PS2 titles on it. It's a COMPAQ 7500, and when rotated sideways, it sits itself on such an angle that it's practically like a tate'd arcade monitor. I'm really happy with it.

Though, my HDTV is the least used of all three. I'd like to think that I'm not that much of a quality whore, but really, I am. Just with PS2 stuff.

Anyway, playing PS2 fighters, shmups and music games without any input lag and with the best possible quality is a great feeling. I couldn't ask for more.

[Hoonyo]

I'm playing TvC on a 720p LCD using only composite, and I don't notice this input lag that everyone else notices. I hate being such a freak.

[Grog]

92" 720p LCD Projector. Panasonic AX-200U.

And before anyone asks, yes he has shown pics it's real.

[FrazCTF4LIFE]

52 inch Bravia HDMI goodie goodie hookup with Denon receiver for surround sound madness.

[brightsons]

Yup, Slim LED DLP; needless to say everything looks great on this mammoth.:rofl:

Nice, I got a 50" Samsung LED DLP :bgrin:

Also got a 32" Sharp Aquos LCD and a 27" Samsung CRT

[Grog]

So should we rename the thread to "Maxx's post Christmas List"

[BananaWeed]

I used to play on an Acer 32" 1080i LCD TV, but the input lag was too much for fighters (3rd strike). I can't play on the 42" Samsung in my living room for the same reason. Now I play PS3 games on this (http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&cs=cadhs1&sku=223-9379).

[DS]

Samsung 40" 1080p HDTV. Looks gorgeous. I still have my CRT for old fighting games, but I stopped playing them since I've been playing the new stuff.

[Tim Static]

Well are ya? I am! I have a 32" Samsung LCD HDTV. It's native is 720p but can output an downscaled 1080i. Games look awesome on it!

Welcome to 2006!

[Doc Holliday]

47" Vizio 1080p. Runnin my PS3 through HDMI. Everything looks super.

[Warpticon]

720p on my LAPTOP BABY!!!

[The Epidemic]

So should we rename the thread to "Maxx's post Christmas List"

LOL.

But damn..you guys are killing my TV. I got a LG 27'' LCD HDTV 720p....size isnt everything tho...

Bet you guys not fuckin with my home theater tho.

[rcaido]

120"DIY screen 720/1080i X1 infocus projector w/ 7.1 surround
60" Sony Wega LCD
52" Sony Bravia XBR6
40" Sony Bravia 1080p

But i play my ST remix on my 27" Sony CRT!

[jballa1]

52" Samsung Touch of Color 120Hz
With my 60gb PS3

[orochizoolander]

40" panasonic native1080p plasma baybee!

Contrast ratio, color temperature, and other factors are more important then the size.

[bejames]

Yes sir, full 1080p 50' plasma, upgraded from a 32' 1080p lcd. I see no difference in gaming quality however movies look much better on the plasma.

What brand? and how's the burn in?


OT: 32" 720p Samsung, looks good. Might upgrade to a 40" sooner or later.
Looks great!

[Mr.Noodle]

1080p 46" Bravia. <3 this TV.

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

36" Olevia 720p lcd

[mIRC]

Been playing in HD since at least '98.












PC games anyway.

[Grog]

Some ballers in here.

[AzN_Skater]

My eyes are hurting.

Note to self: Make sure to have ambient lighting when playing games in a Home Theater.

[NeoBlood]

50" Panasonic Viera 1080p Plasma. Blu Rays look fan fucking tastic. 360 with HDMI cable doesnt look too shabby either lol. And guys dont forget if your tv has a built in digital tuner, many stations are already broadcasting in hi def for FREE! Im watching Man vs. Wild in hi def right now and loving it.

[Master Pogi]

Polaroid 42'' Class Full-HD 1080p LCD HDTV

Nice sized TV with nice sound, and it's a blast playing on too.

[Taito]

CRT 720p HDTV, the picture is razor sharp, fantastic quality, but 1.33:1 letterbox (most movies) is a little small. I'm not gonna bother upgrading until flat-panels fix all my problems with them (price, response time, lag, black level, < 720p video quality)

[AlterGenesis]

No, I'm poor.

[Episode_667]

42" Panasonic Viera 1080p Plasma. I love my cable setup though:

1. 360 through HDMI
2. PS2 and XBOX through component (universal cable)
3. Dreamcast through VGA.

I still can't believe how good Dreamcast games look in VGA. Mmmmmmm. Just waiting for my 100-hour break-in period to conclude, so I can finally start adjusting some of the display settings to my liking.

[Vynce]

Had to go with Vizio. I picked up my 42" LCD to replace my Toshiba rear-projection that crapped out the same day. It's 720p, but I know enough not to care. Of course, today I could get a 1080p set for less cash, but hey.

[megaultrasuper]

runnin' 256x240p on my 11" Sony PVM-1251Q

[RoninChaos]

46 inch a650 samsung. I wanted a 52 but it would be too big for the room I have it in. Maybe I'll get a 7 series when we move and give this one to my girl. I also have her 50 inch samsung DLP in our living room. We have a couple of hi def monitors. I want to get a 26 inch one of these days for my computer.

The touch of color is fucking sexy.

[odin]

My eyes are hurting.

Note to self: Make sure to have ambient lighting when playing games in a Home Theater.

i hope you have moved your couch about 10 feet back so that we dont all go blind

[acllaim]

I play on a 13" Sylvania TV. :coffee:
I plan to buy a Plasma to take to college with the insane amount of scholarship money I'll be getting when I graduate high school later this year.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

I only play ST, A3, SF4 and 3S so... no. :(

[True Grave]

Well are ya? I am! I have a 32" Samsung LCD HDTV. It's native is 720p but can output an downscaled 1080i. Games look awesome on it!

I've got a 19" HD-TV....but i only have a PS2 to play games on.

So no, I'm guess i'm not gaming in HD.

[TheRock-BoS]

I have a 32" Samsung for my PS3 (HDMI), my monitor that I'm typing on for my 360 (VGA) and sitting beside it, a 17" CRT monitor which I play PS2 stuff with (via XRGB-2+ upscan converter).

So, yes. My tv has input lag for stuff like PS2 fighters, so getting an upscaler was the next best thing. And I'm so glad that I did this too, because it's a really great converter. Games look great and I'm having a lot of fun playing through some older PS2 titles on it. It's a COMPAQ 7500, and when rotated sideways, it sits itself on such an angle that it's practically like a tate'd arcade monitor. I'm really happy with it.

Though, my HDTV is the least used of all three. I'd like to think that I'm not that much of a quality whore, but really, I am. Just with PS2 stuff.

Anyway, playing PS2 fighters, shmups and music games without any input lag and with the best possible quality is a great feeling. I couldn't ask for more.

Now, you see, you are actually introducing lag.

When you play something in it's native resolution and your TV has less than 12ms response time, you should experience no lag.

When you have to upscale/downscale through processing, which it what you're apparently doing, you introduce milliseconds of response time.

Kinda why I got a 1080p native set with 8ms response time. No lag even playing GGXX on my PS3.

The main problem I think is that a lot of these 720p sets have an ACTUAL native resolution of 768p.

[Garamond]

I use a 22'' monitor for most my games. Really good for the most part, except HD remix has black bars on the left and right because it's 16:10 and not 16:9

[epy0nkaru]

27 inch 720p (also does 1080i, big for my room) Insignia HDTV (so sue me i wasnt there when i bought the damn thing) with
-ps3 connected to the HDMI ports,
-ps2 connected through component cables (thank you sony for making ps3 shit work with the ps2)(alpha 3, kofxi, and ggxx through progressive mode for not so bad latency)
- My laptop connected to the VGA port (i can play 3s on it and it won't look like complete shit)
-and my gamecube connected to my dinky composite cable (in all honesty, i wish wii cables worked on the gamecube, or that GCN component cables weren't impossible to find)

[Spoonman]

Polaroid 42'' Class Full-HD 1080p LCD HDTV

Nice sized TV with nice sound, and it's a blast playing on too.

I have the same TV! My set up is..
360: HDMI
PS2: Component
DC: VGA

[MGF]

I have only a 23" 720p HDtv. It doesn't look as good as others, but I plan to save for a 1080p.

[-SuGaR-]

23" Samsung LCD. I can't play seriously on a large TV.

[Zero]

Samsung 40" 1080p HDTV. Looks gorgeous. I still have my CRT for old fighting games, but I stopped playing them since I've been playing the new stuff.

I have the same TV as this guy.

I love it, but since I moved to a bigger apartment, I now wish I got a bigger one. A 46 inch would have been perfect.

[InfiniDragon]

Magnavox 32MF338B. 32 inches, 1080i.

360 looks badass on it. Wii looks badass on it.

PS2 looks...well...360 looks badass on it. :rofl:

[RagingStormX]

http://images.philips.com/is/image/PhilipsConsumer/42PFL5603D_27-GAL-global?wid=430&hei=430&$jpglarge$

Phlips 42 inch 120 htz 1080p LCD with DNM (Digital Natural Motion)

Looks really good and DNM makes games look REAL good, and of course make Blurays movies look crazy as hell (I don't like it for movies truthfully). Also has a PC mode thru HDMI which makes it excellent as a montior. I have dual montiors rights now, the TV as the primary and my 1440x900 as the other one.

I have it hooked up also.

PS2- Composite
PSP- Component
Xbox 360- Component
PS3- HDMI 1.3
PC- HDMI 1.3

and I still have 2 HDMI slots and 2 composite/S-video slots availible to use :lovin:

120 htz is so dope on games with the motion enhancement on. I really like it, anyone who hasnt seen it should :looney:

[Wil]

50" Panasonic 1080p Plasma - Living Room
46" Sony XBR5 - Master Bedroom
32" Samsung 720p LCD - Garage

[RagingStormX]

I have a 32" Samsung for my PS3 (HDMI), my monitor that I'm typing on for my 360 (VGA) and sitting beside it, a 17" CRT monitor which I play PS2 stuff with (via XRGB-2+ upscan converter).


XRGB-2+ lagless for fighters? I remember hearing bout it.


*Slaps self and goes to tech talk.

[Onslaught2000]

Just started a week ago actually. LG 32' full 1080p. Got it for like 300 or so off and I'm hella enjoying it. And I'm not even noticing lag for games like Mega Man 9 and what-not.

[RagingStormX]

Just started a week ago actually. LG 32' full 1080p. Got it for like 300 or so off and I'm hella enjoying it. And I'm not even noticing lag for games like Mega Man 9 and what-not.

You only get lag on ps2 and below (in general). 360 and PS3 wont lag.

[RoninChaos]

I think that 120hz shit sucks for movies. I never tried it for games, and I have my ps3 output blu rays at 24 fps if allowed. Makes everything look great.

[TheRock-BoS]

Westinghouse 1080p 42"

PS3: HDMI + Optical to surround sound
Xbox 360: HDMI (looking for that audio adapter)
Wii: Component
Dreamcast: VGA

[RagingStormX]

I think that 120hz shit sucks for movies. I never tried it for games, and I have my ps3 output blu rays at 24 fps if allowed. Makes everything look great.

24fps is really good, I have that also set up. And 120 htz is good for movies , thats what allows the 24 fps. What you are talking about is the Motion enhancement, and yes it completely destroys the cinematic feel of the movie. They just arent meant to be seen like that. But for games its dope. Ive heard that motion enhancement is good for sports and discovery channel stuff. For games I think its dope.

[Stuart Hayden]

Nope.

[Onslaught2000]

You only get lag on ps2 and below (in general). 360 and PS3 wont lag.

Really, I thought if a game wasn't being displayed in the TV's native resolution then there would be lag, and since most games don't do 1080p display, I would get slight lag and I thought that's why it was such a big concern.

But the point is moot really, since my games are running smooth, I could care less at this point. I really don't touch games on older systems anymore.

[tanabe]

32'' vizio 720p
i should upgrade since i got this tv a while back.

PS3: HDMI
Xbox 360: component
Dreamcast: vga

[FaceMeAndBeBroken]

42 1080p lcd.

PS3 - HDMI, 360 - HDMI, Wii - component, PC - VGA.

My Dreamcast is now useless.

[rcaido]

You guys should post pic of your setup...I just got my electric fireplace entertainment center(mirror broke :mad:) today & now i can put my 52" Sony XBR6 on top of it...I finally have a tv in my family room but no tv in my game room now...

Im going update my pics on the Post pictures of your SF/entertainment setup (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=95381&highlight=rcaido&page=21)

[phrostbyte]

42" Olevia 1080p LCD. I stopped playing older fighters since none of of the XBox versions work right on the 360. Nowadays, it's all about Remix and VF5 until SFIV comes out. :pray:

[AD]

50" Samsung plasma, it doesnt have svideo so my dreamcast game play go max quality on yellow component =/

[RagingStormX]

Really, I thought if a game wasn't being displayed in the TV's native resolution then there would be lag, and since most games don't do 1080p display, I would get slight lag and I thought that's why it was such a big concern.

But the point is moot really, since my games are running smooth, I could care less at this point. I really don't touch games on older systems anymore.

Took this from tech talk.

"However, because HDTVs NEVER have 480i/240p (Standard Definition) and usually not even 480p (Enhanced Definition) as a native resolution, that means that any video game console we have that can't output a High Definition signal is likely to lag on any HDTV display. It isn't that it is impossible to scale an image with no lag; HDTVs simply put the emphasis on image quality, which takes some time to process, rather than speed. Some newer HDTVs now come equipped with a "Game Mode" to speed up the scaling process and reduce or eliminate lag on the set. You can read more about "Game Mode" later into the FAQ."

So basically its olders systems with the problem, ps3 and xbox 360 do 1080p so my tv should be straight, Ive never noticed any lag on a 720p game.

[DS]

I have the same TV as this guy.

I love it, but since I moved to a bigger apartment, I now wish I got a bigger one. A 46 inch would have been perfect.

Oh shit, we have the same TV. Gimme daps, Zero.


I think that 120hz shit sucks for movies. I never tried it for games, and I have my ps3 output blu rays at 24 fps if allowed. Makes everything look great.

Yeah, I never really go the idea of the 24fps for movies. I was watching Casino Royale at the Sony store and it was running on one of those sets. It looks so bad because it wants to look like it's live, but it's not. For some reason(to me at least), it makes everything look rubbery.

[RagingStormX]

Oh shit, we have the same TV. Gimme daps, Zero.



Yeah, I never really go the idea of the 24fps for movies. I was watching Casino Royale at the Sony store and it was running on one of those sets. It looks so bad because it wants to look like it's live, but it's not. For some reason(to me at least), it makes everything look rubbery.

Lol you guys are confused.

120 htz = good, allows 24fps playback making Blurays play smoother. Its better cause film is recorded at 24 fps, so it makes it more like (or better) than watching it in a theater.

Motion enhancement = Bad based on your preference, great for games imo and maybe disovery channel shit or football games. Makes eveything look like a soap opera and lifelike as hell. You can turn this off or on. 120 htz sets all seem to come with this.

[DS]

I was assuming you'd understand what I was saying. I'm not confused, but I get what you're saying. Motion enhancement sucks for movies. That's my stance on it.

[RagingStormX]

I was assuming you'd understand what I was saying. I'm not confused, but I get what you're saying. Motion enhancement sucks for movies. That's my stance on it.

My bad, you made it sound like 24 fps for movies was bad.

[Griffen]

Nope, I'm still Rollin with standard, and it doesn't bother me one bit.

[RoninChaos]

24fps is really good, I have that also set up. And 120 htz is good for movies , thats what allows the 24 fps. What you are talking about is the Motion enhancement, and yes it completely destroys the cinematic feel of the movie. They just arent meant to be seen like that. But for games its dope. Ive heard that motion enhancement is good for sports and discovery channel stuff. For games I think its dope.

Are you sure? I was under the impression that 24fps has nothing to do with the motion enhancement 120hz shit that I have on my TV, unless the manual lied to me. I'm speaking specifically about the shit that adds frames and makes everything look like it's live in front of you. Works great for sports, but makes movies look like shit. That shit sucks. Outputting blu rays at 24fps makes it so the film doesn't stutter at all. 120hz is the motion enhancement shit. They're two different things.

At least that's what I've read.

[RagingStormX]

Are you sure? I was under the impression that 24fps has nothing to do with the motion enhancement 120hz shit that I have on my TV, unless the manual lied to me. I'm speaking specifically about the shit that adds frames and makes everything look like it's live in front of you. Works great for sports, but makes movies look like shit. That shit sucks. Outputting blu rays at 24fps makes it so the film doesn't stutter at all. 120hz is the motion enhancement shit. They're two different things.

At least that's what I've read.

What I read from the AVS forum says differently, 120 htz sets is what allows 24 fps,24 goes into 120 5 times, 24 doesnt go into 60 htz sets evenly which is why 60 htz sets cant do 24 fps (actually I heard some can but I cant verify that). Motion enhancement is different feature. You can read up on it more if you are interested, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=973848

"I believe it is a mutually symbiotic cumulative effect. You can enable the 120 Hz refresh or the motion-processing separately, but you don't quite get the same impact that you do when they are allowed to work together. Naturally, you can screen the 24 fps material into 120 Hz slices quite easily, but the improvement in the result will be subtle- essentially you will only be correcting the classic cadence issue. You will still be showing the same frame 5x in a row before switching to a new frame, so the motion will still be coarse. There is also a low level persistence effect in the operation of the eye which reduces the ultimate detail performance perceived by the viewer as each frame is sustained for a finite time period, while things are in motion. Usually, this does not have much of an impact at typical 60 hz speeds of video, but at 24 Hz of film, the time is long enough to leave some residual of the previous frame "burned" into the retina, as it acquires the new frame.

The motion processing allows the relatively plodding pace of film to be synthesized to a higher framerate, as if the motion was captured to unique frames at a faster pace. Not only is the motion smoother, there is less "retina burn-in" for each successive unique frame (since the framerate of unique images is faster). When combined with 120 Hz display, the symbiotic impact results in a smooth rendering of motion and optimal refresh of the retina with unique imagery to a level that we are not accustomed to experiencing with a film-based movie or classic movie format.

It is certainly possible to project that this new "look" will seem entirely native to younger generations that did not grow up in the "film age", where it most certainly looks odd to us who have become intimately accustomed to the 24 fps look of movies."


Enough derailing by me though lol, I'll post up a pic tomorrow of my set up.

[C_2]

nope, my TV is a 19 inch mono.

[Monte]

i love blue rays so you know i am!

[Shifting Colors]

have a ps3 and 360. sadly neither are hooked up for hd. old tv's.

could game and blue ray in hd on my main tv, but the only solution i can find is this expensive ass cable http://www.curtpalme.com/images/HDFury_logo_gamer.jpg. i've been wondering if it's a scam.

hell, my 360 isn't even connected to the net. we have wifi and i've been trying to find a cheap solution for that. sad, i know.

[DS]

have a ps3 and 360. sadly neither are hooked up for hd. old tv's.

could game and blue ray in hd on my main tv, but the only solution i can find is this expensive ass cable http://www.curtpalme.com/images/HDFury_logo_gamer.jpg. i've been wondering if it's a scam.

hell, my 360 isn't even connected to the net. we have wifi and i've been trying to find a cheap solution for that. sad, i know.

OMG, you're alive. Shifty is alive.

[ulovemikeroch]

have a ps3 and 360. sadly neither are hooked up for hd. old tv's.

could game and blue ray in hd on my main tv, but the only solution i can find is this expensive ass cable http://www.curtpalme.com/images/HDFury_logo_gamer.jpg. i've been wondering if it's a scam.

hell, my 360 isn't even connected to the net. we have wifi and i've been trying to find a cheap solution for that. sad, i know.

No, because that requires a VGA output like a graphics card, so unless you want to do x560 VGA cable -> to that cable to HDMI, then don't buy it. PS3 doesn't even have vga. I wonder what the effects are of using that cable. Digital to analog is easy, but analog to digital?

[Pablo_the_Mex]

58 inch Samsung plasma. I would have gotten bigger but that was all I could fit in my living room wall. Shit is mounted and blows minds on the regular.

[Shifting Colors]

OMG, you're alive. Shifty is alive.

yes, i live. now stop derailing the thread fuckface :)


No, because that requires a VGA output like a graphics card, so unless you want to do x560 VGA cable -> to that cable to HDMI, then don't buy it. PS3 doesn't even have vga. I wonder what the effects are of using that cable. Digital to analog is easy, but analog to digital?

i should of specified, my tv only does true hd (from what i've read) via it's vga input. it's an rca mm36110. from my research it only does hd via it's vga 2 input. i dunno, seems questionable to pick up a hard to find, $100 cable for this shit, but we can't really afford a new tv these days.

[_MJ_#R]

150"

das right..

[RagingStormX]

yes, i live. now stop derailing the thread fuckface :)



i should of specified, my tv only does true hd (from what i've read) via it's vga input. it's an rca mm36110. from my research it only does hd via it's vga 2 input. i dunno, seems questionable to pick up a hard to find, $100 cable for this shit, but we can't really afford a new tv these days.

Xbox 360 http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1311&_nkw=xbox+360+vga+cable&_sacat=See-All-Categories

But also looking at the tv, it says it has component jacks also, so you can get a high def signal that way also. Its shouldn't have to be VGA only, 360 does all the way up to 1080p thru component and your tv is a 1080i.


PS3 http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000MIXFWA/ref=sr_1_olp_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1232454692&sr=1-3

[SIMPLY_HUGO]

37" LCD Vizio 1080pi?


Fucking HD gives me a headache though :(

[King9999]

Well are ya? I am! I have a 32" Samsung LCD HDTV. It's native is 720p but can output an downscaled 1080i. Games look awesome on it!

I have the same TV...it's the LNT3242H, right?


Welcome to 2006!

:arazz: I don't feel the need to upgrade.

[RoninChaos]

What I read from the AVS forum says differently, 120 htz sets is what allows 24 fps,24 goes into 120 5 times, 24 doesnt go into 60 htz sets evenly which is why 60 htz sets cant do 24 fps (actually I heard some can but I cant verify that). Motion enhancement is different feature. You can read up on it more if you are interested, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=973848

"I believe it is a mutually symbiotic cumulative effect. You can enable the 120 Hz refresh or the motion-processing separately, but you don't quite get the same impact that you do when they are allowed to work together. Naturally, you can screen the 24 fps material into 120 Hz slices quite easily, but the improvement in the result will be subtle- essentially you will only be correcting the classic cadence issue. You will still be showing the same frame 5x in a row before switching to a new frame, so the motion will still be coarse. There is also a low level persistence effect in the operation of the eye which reduces the ultimate detail performance perceived by the viewer as each frame is sustained for a finite time period, while things are in motion. Usually, this does not have much of an impact at typical 60 hz speeds of video, but at 24 Hz of film, the time is long enough to leave some residual of the previous frame "burned" into the retina, as it acquires the new frame.

The motion processing allows the relatively plodding pace of film to be synthesized to a higher framerate, as if the motion was captured to unique frames at a faster pace. Not only is the motion smoother, there is less "retina burn-in" for each successive unique frame (since the framerate of unique images is faster). When combined with 120 Hz display, the symbiotic impact results in a smooth rendering of motion and optimal refresh of the retina with unique imagery to a level that we are not accustomed to experiencing with a film-based movie or classic movie format.

It is certainly possible to project that this new "look" will seem entirely native to younger generations that did not grow up in the "film age", where it most certainly looks odd to us who have become intimately accustomed to the 24 fps look of movies."


Enough derailing by me though lol, I'll post up a pic tomorrow of my set up.

OKay, then it's how it's marketed. Let me specify. I think motion enhancement sucks fucking dick.

[Darko]

What brand? and how's the burn in?


OT: 32" 720p Samsung, looks good. Might upgrade to a 40" sooner or later.
Looks great!

It's an LG plasma, haven't seen any burnin yet. I had to buy it as it was on sale for $1200 CDN.

[Dumehra]

I definately game in HD. I can't imagine going back to SD. Anything 720p and above is awesome. Not a fan of 1080i as there are aome motion blur on moving objects. I love my sharp aquos 37 inch LCD TV which could go up to 1080p.

[Silverwolf69]

I have a Sony KD34-XBR960 CRT TV. It max resolution is 1080I but picture quality looks just as good as the new flat screen TV being sold today and I don't notice any lag at all while gaming

[Septimus Prime]

Yes, I am.

[SRKev]

42" Panasonic 1080p Plasma!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!