abel console challenges

[Morphiend]

i'm having issues doing his focus attack into tornado throw. when i hold down the fa the opponent will crumple and the throw will miss high. i can't however do a quick fa and cancel into the tornado throw. any tips?

i figure this thread can be a general help thread for all his challenges?

[k4polo]

hold the FA attack and then dash(forward, forward) then tornado throw

[Zeiram12]

In the same note, how do you do the "Focus attack, [Crouch] Heavy punch, Soulless" combo? i can get the focus dash forward heavy punch, but the ultimate combo always misses, what am i missing?

[shinsatsu]

In the same note, how do you do the "Focus attack, [Crouch] Heavy punch, Soulless" combo? i can get the focus dash forward heavy punch, but the ultimate combo always misses, what am i missing?

Make sure you're doing a crouching HP then wait a second, then do the ultra. If you do the ultra too early, you'll miss the opponent as he's falling to the ground.

[Zeiram12]

Okay so it's all just a timing thing? cause i've waited a moment and seemed to miss by hitting it too late...sounds like it's blister making time :( lol

[BustaBust]

its a timing thing. when u do cr.fp wait til your opponent is just about to start falling (or right before they reach their peak) then ultra.

[Shogun of Live]

for a visual clue if you do it right as the opponents body is at the same height as the top of Abel's head you should be fine

[woohooplah]

ive been stuck on:
>jump m.k
>heavy p.
>change of direction

is the heavy p. suppose to land twice or can i cancel it some how?

[BustaBust]

cancel after the first hit of the fierce punch.

[Super_Mayne]

I've been having the hardest time focus canceling into cr.fp. That cr.fp never connects. I've been trying to perfect the timing of this combo for the past hour and a half. Even mashed the cr.fp to no end at one point, and nothing. I'm not sure if it's because I'm using a regular 360 pad or what.

[Super_Mayne]

cr.mp>light rekka>focus cancel>cr.hp is what i'm trying to do btw. I'm never giving up though, but that cr.hp is killing me. perhaps it is the 360 controller? maybe invest in a fighting pad.

[radica]

I actually find Abel and Gief fairly easy to play on cosole with the regular controllers. Then again it might just be the amount of scrubs I'm facing that are just dying to throws. I finally mastered FADC with Abel at the arcade but haven't been able to replicate it well on the PS3 Controller. If anything throws are easier on the controller but simple 2 hit combos become a pain for me to pull off.

[Zeiram12]

Any advice for Fkick dash Hpunch Change of direction?

[BustaBust]

practice. thats all you can really do, your having trouble with the timing of the combo.

[Zeiram12]

Yeah bassically, i seem to get the heavy punch to land 1 out of 100 tries, i keep thinking to myself if this is really that hard to pull off am i ever going to use it?

[Toasted Bread]

For some reason it's a bit easier for me to do forward + FK > dash > FP than it is to do FADC > cr.FP. I kinda know the timing for the first one but the 2nd one only worked maybe once or twice. Strange considering they are both dashes before the FP.

[Cannedleech]

I'm actually having trouble doing the level 3 normal trial :( can anyone give me some tips? I am having trouble doing hp->change of direction. should i be doing the close 2-hit hp or the far hp? ive tried both and cant get it to work. Is this a chain combo or a link combo? Do i just have bad timing? should i be inputting my qcf+hp while the hp is coming out, or after it hits? etc... any tips are appreciated.

[BustaBust]

do the close hp and cancel after the first hit.

[Shigz]

BUSTA, HOW DO I DO LVL 5 HARD TRIALS... ITS IMPOSSIBLEEE!

i cant ever hit the last hp =(

[Sev7en Eleven]

2nd one in the 4th Trial IIRC
Jumping HP into crouching HP
Light change of direction - super
do you do all the hits on change? just 1 or 2?

[Xrated]

i need help with light punch to medium punch.

its the infal one and it is the hardest for me :(

[Xrated]

nvm finally got it, i had to be a little bit away so that the jab wouldnt do its 2 hits

[JedahZero]

2nd one in the 4th Trial IIRC
Jumping HP into crouching HP
Light change of direction - super
do you do all the hits on change? just 1 or 2?

I'm pretty sure it's just 1 and a cancel.

[BustaBust]

shigz what is it? i dont have a console so im not sure waht you are talking about :P

[Sev7en Eleven]

And to cancel (Sorry for all these nub questions btw) I just do the super command as the first one hits?

That's what I've been attempting but the QCF then 2xQCF before it hits is tough for me (using 360 joystick ATM)

[Shigz]

lvl 5 hard trial is:

forward MK xx dash -> HP xx MP rekka xx FADC xx forward MK xx dash -> HP

[!(•_•)!]

How in the hell do I do cr.HP > Wheel kick? If I cancel the first hit, it won't combo, if I wait for it to finish, I'm WAYYY too late to hit them with the wheel kick.

[orochi1017]

How in the hell do I do cr.HP > Wheel kick? If I cancel the first hit, it won't combo, if I wait for it to finish, I'm WAYYY too late to hit them with the wheel kick.

Cancel into it on the 2nd kick.

[Fiveways]

I forget which trial I'm on, but the combo it wants me to do is Focus attack, C.HP xx Soulless. I've done it a few times and it registers as a 9 hit combo but it's not giving me credit for it. I'm guessing I need to cancel into it earlier but I can't get it to work, any ideas?

[BustaBust]

are u dashing after teh focus attack? so focus attack (dash after the hit) cr.hp ultra

[Cannedleech]

Any tips for this combo:

forward MK dash HP rekka

I have no idea how to get the HP in after the dash.

[Fiveways]

are u dashing after teh focus attack? so focus attack (dash after the hit) cr.hp ultra

yeah, im dashing after the hit. i've done it so many times that i can time the dash perfectly just by the sounds he makes even when im not looking, haha. im just not sure what im doing wrong since it still registers it as a combo and gives me the credit for the focus and the c.hp

[BustaBust]

its a timing issue cannedleech. fiveways are you doing at least a lvl 2 or 3 focus? to get the crumple?? if you are then thats weird that your not getting the combo

[Kajiki]

I'm getting my ass kicked by the challenges because i can barely use a stick... :sad:

Stuck on:

:mk: -dash- :hp: xx Rekka.


--- learning to play on a shitty madcrapz stick is so damn frustrating.... --- :annoy:

[Kocha]

Any tips for this combo:

forward MK dash HP rekka

I have no idea how to get the HP in after the dash.

Same..I'm having trouble with this one. Can you elaborate busta? Btw, thanks for helping out us Abel noobs.

[Fiveways]

its a timing issue cannedleech. fiveways are you doing at least a lvl 2 or 3 focus? to get the crumple?? if you are then thats weird that your not getting the combo

yeah, he's definitely crumpling, i dunno, its really frustrating. i'm adjusting to the whole stick situation as well, and i've got a fighting stick 3 so this curved button and ball crap is giving me headaches but i just got it yesterday and im getting used to it.

[BustaBust]

to everyone, your not noobs your just good players in training :D. and seriously its a timing issue, nothing i can help you with just gotta practice.

[Kajiki]

yeah, he's definitely crumpling, i dunno, its really frustrating. i'm adjusting to the whole stick situation as well, and i've got a fighting stick 3 so this curved button and ball crap is giving me headaches but i just got it yesterday and im getting used to it.

Be glad you didnt get the madcatz, its a piece of trash. I'm trying to learn to play on a stick, but the stick and buttons on my SE FightStick are sticking every few seconds. I tried to get in a fix it and the inside is a mess, they basically hotglued everything down except for the one washer in the stick that needs to be glued down to stop it from getting stuck....


I ordered some sanwa parts and im just waiting for them to arrive. It definitely is hard learning how to play on a stick and learning how to play as a new character in a new game at the same time. I do feel like im improving everyday though, i just have to get to a point where i wont get owned by scrubby shotos spamming SRKs. :rofl:

[Cannedleech]

also, for forward MK->dash->HP->rekka, do i need to tap forward once or twice to dash? should i time the forward tap(s) when the kick hits or after? ive been sort of mashing it to get the dash to happen.

[BustaBust]

it hink you can tap it once after the forward mk. i mean you can do it twice to make sure but dont mash it since that could throw off the timing since it is pretty strict.

[humbag]

do forward+medium kick and then just one more forward when the kick hits to cancel

His links are strict timing people. It takes time and good Rhythm to be able to hit them consistently.

For new stick users: keep playing. And then playing some more on it. Play so much on your stick that every move becomes an after thought. Also: you dont need to be forcefull on it. Gracefully roll the stick to do moves.

[just6822]

The 5th combo on hard trial... MAN that is ridiculous. I think I'm going to check the frames and see if I have to be Jesus to pull it off.

[cr0wley]

The 5th combo on hard trial... MAN that is ridiculous. I think I'm going to check the frames and see if I have to be Jesus to pull it off.

I know, rite? What really pisses me off is getting through the first mk dash fp-mp rekka-ex cancel only to miss the very last fp. Shit is driving me crazy. kjaskdjbasdb

[!(•_•)!]

Cancel into it on the 2nd kick.

This doesn't help me at all.....

[AaronS]

I've done all the combos but the last one. That thing is so fucking tough.

[blazeu25]

bust is right. it really is all bout practice. i got all abels combo and bnb down. i couldnt get that fadc into cr hp down but now i get it al the time and yes its fukin easy when u have that baby down.and yes it feels fukin good when ur enemy fuks up once and u rekka fadc xx cr hp ultra lol

[orochi1017]

This doesn't help me at all.....

Oh....errr sorry I was really sleepy.

I meant cancel the c. HP into the wheel kick on the 2nd hit of the c. HP rather than the first or waiting for the c.HP to finish.

[Masaka]

I'm having some trouble with hard trial 3:

cr. MP, jab rekka, FADC, cr. HP, souless

I can't get the cr. HP to connect. I assume I'm not supposed to wait for the level 2 FA, since that won't connect after the rekka. Suggestions?

[Fulaani]

dash cancel the FA, you dont want the actual Focus Attack.

[BenD the Truth]

to everyone, your not noobs your just good players in training :D. and seriously its a timing issue, nothing i can help you with just gotta practice.

Everyone take note here. A lot of good players can easily down other people and not even give the time of day to see others improve. Big ups to Busta for not only helping everyone out but also being patient and encouraging. :tup:

[Cannedleech]

Everyone take note here. A lot of good players can easily down other people and not even give the time of day to see others improve. Big ups to Busta for not only helping everyone out but also being patient and encouraging. :tup:

Yeah, thanks a lot to everyone giving out tips, especially Busta!
I'd never be able to learn these combos without some advice.

[tekkamansoul]

dash cancel the FA, you dont want the actual Focus Attack.

I'm having the same trouble, its an EX saving cancel -> dash, and I can't hit that ducking h.p either. In fact, I can't seem to combo it into anything. It gives the same stun amt as a lv1 SA, and as far as I can tell, that isn't comboable >.>

Edit: Oh, you just want the dash, not a hit.

[Prismatic_]

Also having troubles with the forward MK xx dash -> HP xx rekka.

I got the HP to combo a few times but because I had failed so often I'm always surprised that it hit and end up missing the rekka input lol.

Really enjoying play as Abel though.

[BustaBust]

masaka FADC = Focus Attack Dash Cancel so the combo is cr.mp rekka, focus attack dash cancel (so you dont actually do the focus attack) then do cr.fp into ultra.

[NeoKidd]

masaka FADC = Focus Attack Dash Cancel so the combo is cr.mp rekka, focus attack dash cancel (so you dont actually do the focus attack) then do cr.fp into ultra.

Im having a hard time with this one as well. I can get the FADC but I cannot connect the cr FP. Is there a specific part of the first rekka ie. early/late to activate the FA and how fast must you dash after activating the FA to allow more time to connect the cr FP?

[BustaBust]

no it doesnt matter really, its just a timing issue. all you gotta do is practice and sooner or later you will learn it and notice how easy it will become.

[TenorFighter]

I'm having trouble with the forward medium kick to heavy punch heavy rekka etc. ikts tough to do on the Ps3 controller for some reason. Even if it is better than the xbox version. I'm still think to get an actual arcade stick.

[nf0x]

After 45 minutes, I finally did Hard Trial Level 5

I see a lot of you guys are having just as much trouble with it as I did, I have a suggestion. Don't look up at the list of commands for the combo. Break the combo into 2 parts, and practice those separately.

What I did was practice f+mk, dash, hp for about 4 minutes straight. This is Combo A

Once you have that down, the only other part of the combo is just canceling the hp into the mp rekka, and focus canceling it into the first combo. This is combo B.

You are doing Combo A, Combo B, then Combo A again. It's truly a matter of muscle memory.

The hardest part for me was throwing the second f+mk after the focus cancel; I kept dashing out of the focus and then dashing again. Stick with it, and you get a nice title :)

On a side note, aside from the above combo making me want to kill myself, Abel is a lot of fun. I'm starting to get more comfortable with focus canceling, and that makes a world of difference with his throw game. When my string is being blocked, I cancel the c.mp at the end into rekka, then focus cancel that, presto! Works wonders for players who are looking for the pause in your string when you usually command throw.

Busta -- Is moorpark in Simi Valley? You sound super chill, and I'd like to get some matches in against an Abel better than mine. PM me hommie

[BustaBust]

moorpark is next to simi. where do you live? go to Denjin Arcade!!!!!

edit: denjin arcade is in simi.

[nf0x]

moorpark is next to simi. where do you live? go to Denjin Arcade!!!!!

edit: denjin arcade is in simi.

You are too damn quick dude...

check pm's

[Super_Mayne]

Woo! Completed trial 5! Now I feel like I can take on anybody even though I probably can't!

[liquidsnake007]

C.mp > Light change of Direction > EX Focus Cancel > C.Hp > Soulless

i can do the part in red but after i ex focus cancel then dash to do the C.hp 2 hit it always takes to much time?

im i soupossed to hit him with the focus cancel then dash? cus ive been tryin this for about 12 minutes now and i cant seem to get it!

Hit me on live if im not on SRK, GamerTag : C Roi RYU00

[Cannedleech]

C.mp > Light change of Direction > EX Focus Cancel > C.Hp > Soulless

i can do the part in red but after i ex focus cancel then dash to do the C.hp 2 hit it always takes to much time?

im i soupossed to hit him with the focus cancel then dash? cus ive been tryin this for about 12 minutes now and i cant seem to get it!

Hit me on live if im not on SRK, GamerTag : C Roi RYU00

Only 12 minutes? I spent over an hour on that one combo last night and still couldnt get it :(

I think you have to time the dash after the focus cancel really quickly. I had to input the dash pretty much as soon as the focus cancel happens. Ive gotten the c.HP to land a few times, but kept missing the ultra after.

[tekkamansoul]

You definitely can't let the EX FC hit... I had to double tap forward and hit mp/mk at the same time, then straight to down, hp. It's possible to get the ultra out too soon, I try and hit PPP right as they hit the apex of the launch and begin to fall back down.

[Korentul]

Also having troubles with the forward MK xx dash -> HP xx rekka.

I got the HP to combo a few times but because I had failed so often I'm always surprised that it hit and end up missing the rekka input lol.

Really enjoying play as Abel though.

I just completed trial 5. I'm not the best out there but one thing I noticed is that the MK xx dash -> HP is all about the dash itself. The faster you can dash out of MK, the more time you have to do HP at the end of the dash animation.

Pretty much if you dash out of MK as fast as you can you will start landing HP more consistently. After you get that down it's all about muscle memory to put it into the combo.

[Geeelang]

I stuck on hard trial 2 =(

forward MK xx dash -> HP xx MP rekka

How do you get the HP off after the dash?

[Ominga]

These trails are insanely difficult lol

[brl928]

dash cancel the FA, you dont want the actual Focus Attack.

that worked a charm. thanks!

[liquidsnake007]

Only 12 minutes? I spent over an hour on that one combo last night and still couldnt get it :(

I think you have to time the dash after the focus cancel really quickly. I had to input the dash pretty much as soon as the focus cancel happens. Ive gotten the c.HP to land a few times, but kept missing the ultra after.

aight i tried like you said it i got it!!

it still took like 30 minutes!! but thats because i practiced his C.HP to Ultra a lot by itself !

[bdizzle]

is there a trick to landing a punch after the dash kick or is it just timing? im on the last one and struggling hitting the FP after the dash

[Korentul]

The faster you dash after the kick lands the more time you have to combo a punch in.

[Kynes]

Can anyone help with the very last combo of the normal trial for Abel? It seems so simple... LP > MP. I know there has to be soething simple that I am missing but can't seem to figure out what. Do I need to cancel the jab directly into the MP?

[bdizzle]

usually you have to wait just wait until the lp animation is completely over b4 u press mp

[Kynes]

usually you have to wait just wait until the lp animation is completely over b4 u press mp

The final challenge is standing LP -> standing MP. (Standing LP is a 2 punch combo, making the MP not connect.) I have to be missing something.

[Reipin Pillage]

The final challenge is standing LP -> standing MP. (Standing LP is a 2 punch combo, making the MP not connect.) I have to be missing something.

Stand almost max range for jab and it will only do a 1 hit

[dumba989]

This last challenge is making me want to kill myself, literally, why does his timing have to be so strict, jesus!?!?!?

[liquidsnake007]

This last challenge is making me want to kill myself, literally, why does his timing have to be so strict, jesus!?!?!?

I AGREE!!

why do you have to do the same damn thing twice!!

i cant ever dash properly after the 2nd forward kick!

[Chanure]

I'm having serious trouble with Hard 2! I just can't get the HP after the f.mk>dash. Dan always seem to block, and the times when it does connect, I fluff the rekka command! Any tips?

[Hexed]

I'm having serious trouble with Hard 2! I just can't get the HP after the f.mk>dash. Dan always seem to block, and the times when it does connect, I fluff the rekka command! Any tips?

This is my problem every time also. From what I gather, it is just really tight timing and requires practice to get the 'feel' of it down, unfortunately. The issue for me is whether I should be mashing the hell out of HP, or if there is a semi-reliable moment that one can either associate with sound or visual clues in order to land the HP? Not sure, back to challenge mode I suppose.

[Rinsuku]

This is my problem every time also. From what I gather, it is just really tight timing and requires practice to get the 'feel' of it down, unfortunately. The issue for me is whether I should be mashing the hell out of HP, or if there is a semi-reliable moment that one can either associate with sound or visual clues in order to land the HP? Not sure, back to challenge mode I suppose.

It's kind of both. Try pressing HP like 3 times while he is dashing. See if it combos and if it does....DO IT AGAIN. If it doesn't.....DO IT AGAIN ANYWAY. Keep doing it until you feel comfy with it. Then do the rest of it. Hope this helps. :sweat:

[Chanure]

Managed to do it at last but now number 4 is kickin my ass! I just can't seem to get the roll out reliably enough! And then when i do my frantic left hand ends up pulling out the super rather than falling sky!

[nickotine]

Holy crap .. Hard trial #5 is an absolute beast.

I did all the hard trials 1-4 in about 2 hours but I have been stuck on this one for 2 days. Any advice people??

[dumba989]

32 Hours later and i still haven't finished the trial for the fifth challenge on Hard mode, i am comfortable with the timing now, but when the time comes for me to input the EX Focus Cancel into Forward Kick, idk whether to dash backward, forward, or just use the Focus Attack, that's the only issue that i am having with it now

[bttp9999]

This is my problem every time also. From what I gather, it is just really tight timing and requires practice to get the 'feel' of it down, unfortunately. The issue for me is whether I should be mashing the hell out of HP, or if there is a semi-reliable moment that one can either associate with sound or visual clues in order to land the HP? Not sure, back to challenge mode I suppose.I realized you pretty much have to press HP at the exact moment he exits out of his dash. A frame too late and it doesn't link which suuuucks. It's hard getting the timing down, but instead of mashing HP while dashing, it's better if you try and get it via precision, so you can get a better feel for it.

[The Blu Brawler]

Heres a link showing all of abels moves in both normal/hard trial mode. (in jap)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOwW3B9i75k

[aqm]

I forget which trial I'm on, but the combo it wants me to do is Focus attack, C.HP xx Soulless. I've done it a few times and it registers as a 9 hit combo but it's not giving me credit for it. I'm guessing I need to cancel into it earlier but I can't get it to work, any ideas?

I'm having the same problem. At the end of the combo, instead of doing his ultra, Abel does his super (although I'm using the input for his ultra). Anyone got any idea what I'm doing wrong?

[sage2050]

This last challenge is making me want to kill myself, literally, why does his timing have to be so strict, jesus!?!?!?

I got to abel's final challenge, looked at what I had to do, laughed, and went to go do Rose's trials.


I'm having the same problem. At the end of the combo, instead of doing his ultra, Abel does his super (although I'm using the input for his ultra). Anyone got any idea what I'm doing wrong?

it's not a cancel, you have to catch dan on the way down with the ultra. let both hits of the c.hp hit and time the ultra properly. i had the same problem for a long time.

[Cowman715]

So I'm having problems with hard trial 4.

I've practiced just a c.fr - roll - FS and I'm fine, but into the chain I can't connect the c.fr into a roll >.<

Is the timing different or am I just not doing it right in the chain?

[the_ArChitEct]

Yes WTF Hard trial 5 is fucking OD for no dam reason.

[Reipin Pillage]

Yes WTF Hard trial 5 is fucking OD for no dam reason.

Fuck Trial 5. I can do st.fp to rekka all day long but not in that chain.

[vegeto626]

Heres how I did Hard #5. For the f.mk -> st. fp timing, I try to to hit the fp button as Abel's head bobs back when he dashes forward. A little afterward too. Or you can watch dan's body, if he jerks back and into a standing position, its probably too late. The last thing I did too was to not stop even after I messed up in the middle of the entire combo, because you don't want to stop when you actually succeed with the first few hits. Oh yea, and practice parts of the combo separately just to make sure you know how to doit too. Hope it helps guys.

[Reipin Pillage]

The Mk - dash - HP was never my problem.

My problem was for whatever reason, after the HP I couldn't rekka.

If I did the HP without the MK - Dash I could rekka all day off FP.

Anyway I worked my way backwards through the combo and finally did it last night.

Started with the rekka xx FADC xx MK - dash HP

Once that was auto, I did standing HP then the above, then finally just added the Mk to dash then all of it.

My pinky knuckle on my left hand thanks God it is finally over. It couldn't take any more friction from dashing.

[Ronin1183]

i'm having issues doing his focus attack into tornado throw. when i hold down the fa the opponent will crumple and the throw will miss high. i can't however do a quick fa and cancel into the tornado throw. any tips?

i figure this thread can be a general help thread for all his challenges?

Man I can't stop doin focus to tornado throw. Even when I meant to focus attack into h punch I end up doing the tornado throw.

[nickotine]

Can someone post a picture of the icon you get for complete Abel's Hard Challenge. I've been stuck on hard challenge 5 for a over a week now. I think I'm going to give up soon. I just can't do it =(

[hadoken_mofo]

I am having trouble on challenge 2 in hard. f+mk (press forward once after the kick and you will dash) is no problem, but my hp to CoD is tricky. I use a PS3 analog and when i go in for the hp, i sometimes end up doing a cr.hp. would it be easier if i used a stick or a pad?

Timing is hard for me when you hp>CoD. I know you have to cancel after the first hit, so i usually wait until i see the hit connect. should i wait a frame or 2 after or before?

[Kazoo]

The timing trick on hard 2 for anybody still stumped on it is not in the HP, but the dash. You need to be dashing forward the moment the f+MK connects and not a moment later - it's pretty easy, by comparison, to get the HP in an acceptable window.

Now if I could do this without accidentally cancelling into super EVERY FUCKING TIME, I'd be on to hard 3.

[xRuxspin]

Heres a link showing all of abels moves in both normal/hard trial mode. (in jap)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOwW3B9i75k


This video helped out tons for the challenges. Thanks for the post

[Reipin Pillage]

For anyone looking for max time after the f.mk to dash, you can hold forward then hit forward and hit MK at the same time to get max time. Basically the same time you input the dash input the kick.

[Reipin Pillage]

Can someone post a picture of the icon you get for complete Abel's Hard Challenge. I've been stuck on hard challenge 5 for a over a week now. I think I'm going to give up soon. I just can't do it =(

You get 4 icons. You get the flag, the cub with Abel and SF4 on the side, you get an abel cubehead (like a lego) and you get the monochrome card icon.

It took me over a week to do number 5 also. It wasn't until I did it backwards that I was able to do it. Try starting from mp rekka xx FADC xx forward kick, once you have that, add the dash, then, add the FP. Once you can do that reliably the only thing you need to do is cancel a FP into a rekka and you have it done.

[Youkai]

Still not able to do Hard Trial 5 yet, however I ended up doing most of the combo, though i was too slow on the last hit!

So here's a break down:

As previously mentioned, there is 2 combo's to learn from this (2 for me at least).

First Combo:
Of course is the MK > dash > HP > MP Rekka, the trick I learned from here is a random technique, nothing precise, so here's how I ended up getting this part done constantly. I continously spammed MK > dash > HP, however, for HP I rapidly tapped it after the dash and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, but at least for now 50% of the time it works!

Though, the trick is that AS SOON AS you see the HP animation, quickly start your MP Rekka, so that the first hit of the HP connects and then it will link into the MP Rekka.

NOTE: Like Reipin, you would probably want to practice the Rekka > FADC > MK > Dash > HP, however, when I first started I always end up doing the FULL HP ANIMATION, which is too slow for your rekka follow-up.


Second Combo:
This combo is the same as Reipin Pillage's solution, practice the Rekka > FADC > MK > Dash > HP.
Now here's the trick, as previous post has mentioned, they ended up doing too many dashes AFTER the FADC.

This may sound real complex, however its all about practice after you get this motion going.

When doing your Rekka > FADC, FADC only needs one tap of the direction as after the motion of Rekka, you end up tapping forward, so after your MP + MK (for FA), just tap forward ONCE.

Now the trick after this to avoid MORE DASHES, is HOLD the direction after the FADC and tap MK, this is so that you have held the forward long enough to do your Forward MK.
BUT (my hand gets lazy after I hold a direction) REMEBER to tap forward again for your dash and again from the first combo, rapidly tap HP.

Well, I hope I hear some good feedbacks and no flame! I've yet to do mines, but I'm getting the hang of it and most of the time the MK > Dash > HP motion works. Still trying to finish up with the FADC as I end up forgetting to tap the direction again or I am stupid enough to double tap it making it slow to connect the MK etc.

[hotdamnitsryan]

I'm having the same problem. At the end of the combo, instead of doing his ultra, Abel does his super (although I'm using the input for his ultra). Anyone got any idea what I'm doing wrong?

To AQM

You're doing the wrong combo. It's not a link combo(meaning you dont cancel your cr.HP), its a juggle. After you pop them in the air, you do the ultra. The reason your getting the super is because your canceling into it, and ultras cant cancel, so therefore you get a super.

[hotdamnitsryan]

I forget which trial I'm on, but the combo it wants me to do is Focus attack, C.HP xx Soulless. I've done it a few times and it registers as a 9 hit combo but it's not giving me credit for it. I'm guessing I need to cancel into it earlier but I can't get it to work, any ideas?


To Fiveways.

Same deal as AQM, your canceling, and therefore doing a super. You DONT cancel, its a juggle. I'm 100% sure of this because the ultra itself is over 9 hits i think.

You pop them into the air with cr.HP, then you do ultra.

[hotdamnitsryan]

Holy crap .. Hard trial #5 is an absolute beast.

I did all the hard trials 1-4 in about 2 hours but I have been stuck on this one for 2 days. Any advice people??


Break it down into parts, and work on each of them til you get them all down. Then you slowly string them together.


i.e. work on the f MK > dash > FP

work on FP >rekka > FADC

work on rekka > FADC > F MK > Dash

[hotdamnitsryan]

32 Hours later and i still haven't finished the trial for the fifth challenge on Hard mode, i am comfortable with the timing now, but when the time comes for me to input the EX Focus Cancel into Forward Kick, idk whether to dash backward, forward, or just use the Focus Attack, that's the only issue that i am having with it now


Its dash forward for this trial.

But in general, the instructions tell you whether you need to land the focus attack, or a cancel. It's written in the sequence, I'm just assuming you overlooked it.

I believe its EX. Focus Attack and EX. Focus Cancel.

[hotdamnitsryan]

So I'm having problems with hard trial 4.

I've practiced just a c.fr - roll - FS and I'm fine, but into the chain I can't connect the c.fr into a roll >.<

Is the timing different or am I just not doing it right in the chain?



If you could, put out the entire sequence, as not everyone has the time to look up the specific sequence for each person.

But if it's the one im thinking about, its probably just execution. You can do it fine on its own, but on the link your just having problems putting it together. If you can't get it after awhile, just add 1 part at a time til you get it down, and keep going.

[hotdamnitsryan]

I am having trouble on challenge 2 in hard. f+mk (press forward once after the kick and you will dash) is no problem, but my hp to CoD is tricky. I use a PS3 analog and when i go in for the hp, i sometimes end up doing a cr.hp. would it be easier if i used a stick or a pad?

Timing is hard for me when you hp>CoD. I know you have to cancel after the first hit, so i usually wait until i see the hit connect. should i wait a frame or 2 after or before?

Since the part you are referring to is just a 2-1 combo, or a cancel combo, you have alot of leeway putting it in. Just do it early since timing isnt strict, i.e. HP~>Rekka~>FADC. you can put it in all together in a row, no waiting required.

[Youkai]

Wow, so much continous posts. Could've stuck all the quotes into one post itself.

Anyhow, I finally did the final challenge, the bit I started to mess up on was the FADC > Combo1 again. So I took the time to practice the timing of rekka > FADC. The faster the timing of this, the faster you'll be able to connect Combo1 (mk > dash > HP).

So my previous post in how I did it didn't much change, apart from slowly breaking it up to get timing correct for certain things.

Still dunno an accurate way of mk > dash > HP tho. However, I'm having a slight feelling it's the dash that has to be fast enough so the HP can connect.

[n817azn]

Break it down into parts, and work on each of them til you get them all down. Then you slowly string them together.


i.e. work on the f MK > dash > FP

work on FP >rekka > FADC

work on rekka > FADC > F MK > Dash

Holy crap is this hard though... I've done it like that as well. I still haven't pulled it off yet... I've come close, i've gotten all the way to the second >MK, dash but didn't get the FP out. Most of the time i don't get that second mk even out. The combo is very difficult, i'm thinking i need to get better at the > mk >(dash) FP... The timing of this is a major pain in the ass, which makes the combo jacked from start up if you don't have that down. Ugh. hate this one. :nunchuck:

[TenorFighter]

The second hard trial's timing is frustrating the hell out of me. Every time i dash forward either the firece puch never comes out or dan blocks it. It connects maybe 20% of the time then the fierce either hits twice or i'm already in the "change of direction" move.

[Raiff]

Just try to get that fierce punch out inbetween it bein blocked and not commin out at all.

I know this sounds obvious but just spend 5-10 mins learning the timings of each (blocked and not comming out) u soon get a feel for it and it should help with the combo.

As for the next part I think u cancel the punch on the first hit into the CoD (if am thinkin of the right challenge).

[TenorFighter]

Yeah I guess the timing is what I need to work on.


By the way where did you get those avatar images? Wnt to get 1 with Gen abel and gouken.

[b4ssem6]

OH MY GOD. YES. After about 3 HOURS of trying hard trial 5, I FINALLY got it. The side of my thumb feels numb. Heres what I have to say about it.

Keep practicing the f mk>dash>HP until you get a "feel" for it. Pay attention to dans body when you get it right so that way you have an idea of WHEN to go for the HP(its like just as his body is recoiling back from the f mk).

Then, after you have a feel for that, practice rekka>FADC>to f mk>dash>hp. Then just KEEP TRYING. Never give up no matter how frustrated you get. The trick is to always input the button commands for the FULL COMBO even if you mess up. So that way you condition your muscle memory to doing it every single time so you dont mess up in the early part of it during the HP.

Edit: forgot to mention, im using a ps3 controller and the d-pad. I switched the square button to medium punch to make it easier to transition from medium rekka to FADC.

[Lenocide]

So i finally completed this beast after trying it off and on for a few days.
The big thing I've found is to be careful of your dashes, make sure your not using any more than necessary, and that right after you initiate your Rekka to pop off that ex cancel.
Other than that its just practicing that god forsaken high punch timing. good luck all.

[Akzidenz]

Then just KEEP TRYING. Never give up no matter how frustrated you get. The trick is to always input the button commands for the FULL COMBO even if you mess up. So that way you condition your muscle memory to doing it every single time so you dont mess up in the early part of it during the HP.

Yeah, this is the best advice you can give/get for anything that requires precise timing. In order to do any of these regularly, you have to build your muscle memory. Build it to the point where you're not thinking about doing rekka > FADC > cr. HP (or whatever), you're just doing it naturally.

The best way I've found to practice the harder stuff is to do it in 15 minute increments. Just do it over and over for 15 minutes, then take a break and play matches for a half hour, then go back to practicing whatever you're practicing.

After 15 minutes, my brain is spinning and I get sloppy. That's the reason for alternating. Might just be me though.

[Raiff]

Thanx for the tips regarding challenge 5.

Am gettin a bit tired of it tbh, I don't know if I just havent gotten the timin' right, if it's usin the 360 pad (wich is horrible to dash with) or just simply more practice needed.

Probably a combination is most likely but I'll try the 15 min method :)

I agree with Akzidenz tryin to do this solid for an hour or so won't help as am probably gettin' sloppy inputs.

:lovin:

@ TenorFighter Check out this link (http://photobucket.com/images/street%20fighter%204/) u shud find the images there or u can find sum here (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=131650814) towards the bottom of the page (this is not my myspace tho)

[BrandonMasters]

In regards to Hard Trial 5, my problem was that after the FADC, i would constanly dash again instead of the forward kick dash. Practice the timing alot and you will get it. For me though, i stopped looking at the screen and either looked at the controller or closed my eyes all together, this, for some reason, is what really helped me get it.

Good Luck all!

[SSjBroly333]

idk if this will help ne of you but, on lvl5 hard - (a kinda of visual cue for throwing in the HP after dash) - he'll kick up dirt underneath his feet when he comes in. And i can usually get the HP off 75 - 80 % of the time if im working off of that

[Raiff]

I can kinda see what u mean, the timin' is roughly as u see the dust wisp off his heel.

(in the animation the dust goes from quite clearly white, starting under his feet and billows out behind him and fading. The que is roughly as the dust fades from white at the very back of his heel)

It's hard to explain but if u see u may understand what I mean and it does help a little.

Thanx for the hint Brolly

[SSjBroly333]

Thanx for the hint Brolly

ohh np problem man...glad i could be of help ...nice to finally be able to give back. i would more, but i still have my own personal demons to conquer. friggin lvl 5 gen is the ONLY thing standing in the way of me and a platinum..i :looney: and if i have to get a rapid fire controler to get it done, then i will :lol:

[MinorThreat]

For trial 4 in his medium trials one of the combos is j.mk > cr.mp > lp rekka> super do you have to FADC after the rekka to be able to do the super? if not what do you do?

[Raiff]

I can't remember this challenege really ( been on hard 5 4eveer :'( ) but from the look of it u probably have to cancel the rekka animation into super.

[p0ulp]

no need to fadc, input the super during the rekka to cancel it.

[MinorThreat]

no need to fadc, input the super during the rekka to cancel it.

Thankyou i guess i just need to work on my timing

[dumba989]

I don't mean to brag, but i just had to say this, after not playing Abel's last Challenge Mode Trial 5 for about a month almost, i just got on it tonight and completed it in less than thirty-minutes time, WHOOO!!!! I feel good as a Mutha luv!!!!

[Doopliss]

God, I'm so stuck on the Hard 5 one, it's the last hard trial I have to do D: Will turbo make the link easier (altough I play slightly better with the 360 controller then the fightpad), or should I go for frame by frame pausing? I really don't lite framepasuing when links are involved, but... anyhow, couls someone provide me with the best input order if you do it frame by frame? It gets a little confusing with the rekka...

[Arkayne17]

God, I'm so stuck on the Hard 5 one, it's the last hard trial I have to do D: Will turbo make the link easier (altough I play slightly better with the 360 controller then the fightpad), or should I go for frame by frame pausing? I really don't lite framepasuing when links are involved, but... anyhow, couls someone provide me with the best input order if you do it frame by frame? It gets a little confusing with the rekka...


You could always try watching the life bar. When the link is supposed to connect. The bar will go all the way to the right.

* The Opponents life bar *

[Doopliss]

I've heard about that, but I'm not very intrigued about it. When it comes to timing, one shouldn't trust ones eyes.

[akuma31]

The last one is ridiculously hard. The beginning part is hard enough (f+mk xx f,f, FP) Sometimes I can get lucky by mashing it but the trick is to do FP when your dash animation is finished. You have to literally hit FP after the last dash frame or else you're too late. If you press it too early, Abel will still be in dash animation and nothing comes out. You either hit it or you don't.

The FADC is even more difficult, either you double-dash, do it too late causing a block, or it actually connects. Then you gotta worry about the strict timing on FP after the dash once again. This combo is retarded.

[Doopliss]

I find the FADC way harder than the actual links. I will waste an entire weekend to beat this one somtime :P

[MinorThreat]

i am having a really hard time trying to do rekka>>super is there some kind of trick to this? or do you just have to input it insanely fast? How do you get two qcf in the time it takes for the rekka to connect?

[Kajiki]

i am having a really hard time trying to do rekka>>super is there some kind of trick to this? or do you just have to input it insanely fast? How do you get two qcf in the time it takes for the rekka to connect?

:qcf::p::qcf::p:

[MinorThreat]

:qcf::p::qcf::p:

thankyou i didn't realize you only had to do one qcf after the rekka. you have shown me the light

[cozeny]

His Hard 5 has got to be one of the hardest challenges I've tried. God damn that thing!

[LordCoCoIchi]

I wish I could even get to Hard 5, Hard 4 has me stuck. My problem seems to stem from not having the dexterity to roll right after the cr.hp and when I finally do I either fumble around and do another cr.hp, heartless super, or miss the falling sky entirely.

[BigRedHaze]

Im on Hard 5. I gotta ask. does anyone know the frame window for the HP after the Dash?
it seems like the times it gets blocked and the times it doesnt are completely identical.

Are we talking like a 2 frame window?

Im only pushing HP once (not mashing) to get a more accurate feel of the timing, and its no use.
Im at a loss here, is it variable based on the distance you dash from? I read someone say you have to do it after the dash is done. Is it 0 frame? why is this so difficult? pretty much every time I get the HP off Im good, m.CoD and FADC f+mk no problem. but the HP connects after the dash so rarely. its nuts.

[Cossix]

Pretty sure you've got a single frame to do it in.

[Kikuichimonji]

You have to practice this. You know what?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=6363450&postcount=877


It's frame-perfect. IE you have to hit the s.fp perfectly right after the dash, and you have to cancel the mk perfectly as well (20 frames hitstun, 16 frames for the dash, s.fp comes out on the fourth frame). However, on counter-hit you gain a pretty solid number of frames, at least four (because you can do cr.fp instead), so it's a lot easier.

Like I've said before, the trick is to cancel the fwd-mk really fast so that it's POSSIBLE to hit with the s.fp. Otherwise you'll go crazy trying to do something impossible and blaming the s.fp timing.

But yeah, it's easy enough to be consistent in a match with practice. I'm not there yet, but I see it. It's like Dudley's overhead into corkscrew blow in 3s: It's a pain in the ass to get down, but the rewards are delicious.

[MrHits]

the frwd.mk dash cancel combo just takes practice. If this helps anyone, just hit fp ONCE after the dash, no mashing, find that ideal timing RIGHT after the dash ends and it starts to make sense.

I will say: it seems like abels fadc into ultra is ALOT harder than many other characters. I have no problem with sagat, ryu, or rufus' fadc--ultra cancels, yet I main abel and still fuck his up pretty regularly. Just practice makes perfect I suppose.

[Kikuichimonji]

the frwd.mk dash cancel combo just takes practice. If this helps anyone, just hit fp ONCE after the dash, no mashing, find that ideal timing RIGHT after the dash ends and it starts to make sense.

I will say: it seems like abels fadc into ultra is ALOT harder than many other characters. I have no problem with sagat, ryu, or rufus' fadc--ultra cancels, yet I main abel and still fuck his up pretty regularly. Just practice makes perfect I suppose.Actually, I have trouble FADCing shoryus. Abel's FADC into ultra is easy compared to them in my opinion.

[MrHits]

I think putting in the cr.fp after the dash is my problem, sometimes it just seems to come out too late! Is there a trick you personally use, since like I said I have no problem buffering ultra motion after a FADC shoryuken.

[Kikuichimonji]

I think putting in the cr.fp after the dash is my problem, sometimes it just seems to come out too late! Is there a trick you personally use, since like I said I have no problem buffering ultra motion after a FADC shoryuken.You need to do the cr.fp with the same timing as the s.fp off a fwd mk. Practicing the fwd mk xx dash -> s.fp will help you get Abel's dash timing down for CoD xx FA xx dash -> cr.fp.

I personally buffer the dash before the FA cancel comes out, but that's just me.

[MrHits]

yah I buffer the dash as well.

I'll try to do it with the fwd mk xx dash ->s.fp timing in mind, thx.

I think maybe it's because I don't go to neutral after the dash, before the cr.fp. I hold down while he's dashing. do you go FADC, neutral, down+fp after dash?

[BigRedHaze]

You have to practice this. You know what?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=6363450&postcount=877

That was posted an hour and a half after I asked, in a different thread.
They dont have search functions that search the future. my bad.

[Kikuichimonji]

That was posted an hour and a half after I asked, in a different thread.
They dont have search functions that search the future. my bad.I wasn't complaining at you, I was moreso bitching in general. Sorry if I came off as an ass. I just didn't want to write it out again.

[BigRedHaze]

Its all good, it was a good post. :D
Thank you.

[ssjtin]

Guys, it's difficult but to be cliche, practice makes perfect. I can do it 80 percent of the time, it used to be runs of 0 percent where i'd keep doing it and would get blocked or the hp wouldn't even come out.

Don't despair, keep trying you'll get it soon.

[AvariceX]

Just got done reading over this thread. Stuck on hard trial 2 (apparently like a lot of other people were) - forward kick -> dash -> HP -> CoD

Thanks for the tips Busta, I just wish I knew what the exact timing was...I get the HP to connect maybe 1/50 attempts and usually miss the CoD. The one time I got it I activated my super right after the Second Mid -_-.

And I'm doing all this on a 360 controller XD.

[Raiff]

I did it on the x box controller and found one of the most difficult parts to do was the dash consistently >.<

I've said it some where b4 but if u use visual clues u do the HP off the dash just as the smoke/dust drifts off Abel's heel. I found this helped me get the timin' for it but may not be usefull for every1 tho.

[SaikyoBeast]

I just spend about an hour and a half doing hard 2 before I got it. When I checked here (bout 1 hour in) and found out how small the window was, I started treating it like a pain in the ass link. It's hard as hell, but I can get it a whopping 20% of the time. (up from 0, haha)

Thanks for the help.

[VI The Sixth]

Woot - Just finished Abel's hard trial 5.

I spent a couple minutes here and there everyday trying to get it. I didn't really sit down for more than 1 hour a day. I knew I would get it sooner or later, just have to get used to the timing.

It's already been said before but.. it's all muscle memory. Practice it in 2 parts.

Step 1: Forward Kick --> Dash --> Fierce
Step 2: Fierce --> Med. CoD --> FADC (More often than not, I didn't hold MP+MK long enough and just hit Dan)

But them both together.. and you should be good. It's a ridiculous combo, but I can pull off the first part pretty consistently now, but I wouldn't use it in a real match, I would rather just command grab after the dash.

Now I only have Fuerte, Chun, Gen, Balrog, Seth and Gouken to complete x_x.

[Matty]

Just got done reading over this thread. Stuck on hard trial 2 (apparently like a lot of other people were) - forward kick -> dash -> HP -> CoD

Thanks for the tips Busta, I just wish I knew what the exact timing was...I get the HP to connect maybe 1/50 attempts and usually miss the CoD. The one time I got it I activated my super right after the Second Mid -_-.

And I'm doing all this on a 360 controller XD.

I'm stuck on this one. The whole thing is pretty easy except for the CoD. I end up getting the super every single time. frustrating.

[hfz69]

I'm stuck on this one. The whole thing is pretty easy except for the CoD. I end up getting the super every single time. frustrating.

you proly got the super because you mashed qcf. just do qcf motion once.

[Ebenger_]

Anyone clue me in as to the point of easy challenge 5?

[cozeny]

It's to teach you a couple of useful links (that are then usually used in later challenges.)

[Loijz]

I am already stuck on the 1st combo on normal Trial: 3.

C+hp into wheel kick. I am always a bit late with wheelkick. Do I ve to cancel or something? in the vids it doesnt looks like...thx 4 help

there r a lot of combos after this, i can make, but this is a pain in the arse

[Raiff]

U cancel the cr.hp on the second hit into wheel kick or roll

[Falkner]

Hey guys I'm stuck on level 3 combo 3.

hp-change direction

For the life of me I can't get the standing hp to cancel into CoD any tips?

If it was the crouching HP canceling into CoD instead I would be the master of it.

[Kikuichimonji]

Hey guys I'm stuck on level 3 combo 3.

hp-change direction

For the life of me I can't get the standing hp to cancel into CoD any tips?

If it was the crouching HP canceling into CoD instead I would be the master of it.This was hard for me at first too. You cancel as soon as the first hit connects. It's easier for me to negative-edge it (press down fp, qcf motion, release fp).

[Chanure]

So after about 2 weeks I've finally done Hard 5! The lovely cuboid is mine!

[crapface]

Man, I just got to Hard 5... I have a feeling this is going to take me a while. I only have a few more Hard trials left, this and Gen Hard 5. I also need to do Viper's and Fuerte's.

[Nemesis-Kanden]

About the last hard trial. I can do the trial, but doing the combo consistently is a completely different issue. Are there any tips for doing this combo that will help me do it more or is it just a practice issue. Any thing about using a stick to be more consistent or is it feasible on pad. Ps3 pad, not that garbage 360 one.

[dood23]

i've been at hard trial 5 for a few days now, the f.mk > dash > hp i can nail about 40% of the time, and when it does hit i'm not really prepared to follow it up, and when i do follow it up i dash too many times after FADC, and when i dont dash too many times after FADC the last hp doesnt connect. :looney:

*pleads for looser timing on this link, this trial has broken me :wasted:

[Dogma]

This was suggested to me elsewhere, I used it myself with it switched around with X and Y, but it's been the most effective so far, just in case there were others like me who are strangely better with the controller


Although I haven't been able to finish the goddamn trial yet (I've probably spent a good 2-3 hours total on this one), here's an easy button layout to use.

360 Controller
B: Medium Kick
Y: Heavy Punch
X: Medium Punch
A: Focus Attack

Basically you're starting from B and going counter clockwise around your buttons.

Forward B > dash > Y > QCF+X > Hold A and Dash > Forward B > Dash > Y

I burned through the other trials in an evening, but I can't manage to do this one.

The timing for the F + MK > F > Standing HP isn't all that hard to get down but it does take practice, it took me like an hour on trial two but I can do that one with ease now. You can do it by eventually learning how to time it out, Abel doesn't have any giveaway signs, but the issue is typically with how quickly your dashing, if you do it almost immediately after the F+MK labds, you'll typically get a hit when you use the HP.

My problem is the QCF from the heavy. I can hit Dan from the initial combo, even found a way to mash it three times and it will work. But I cannot manage to get the Rekka off easily.

Most times I'll get the double hit from the HP before focus canceling.

Is there an easier to remember way to do it from the HP and still keep the combo going, unlike trial too, you have to keep going on with the combo even if you mess up on the off chance that you didn't (Plus you learn that way)

But I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, because even praciticing it I only get it down about 70% regular and 20% after the dash into the FADC

[BustaWurf]

I finally got hard trial 5. This inspires me to pick up abel.

[Doopliss]

i've been at hard trial 5 for a few days now, the f.mk > dash > hp i can nail about 40% of the time, and when it does hit i'm not really prepared to follow it up, and when i do follow it up i dash too many times after FADC, and when i dont dash too many times after FADC the last hp doesnt connect. :looney:

*pleads for looser timing on this link, this trial has broken me :wasted:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=183462 Could this be of use to you?

[BustaWurf]

i've been at hard trial 5 for a few days now, the f.mk > dash > hp i can nail about 40% of the time, and when it does hit i'm not really prepared to follow it up, and when i do follow it up i dash too many times after FADC, and when i dont dash too many times after FADC the last hp doesnt connect. :looney:

*pleads for looser timing on this link, this trial has broken me :wasted:

after the QCF for the Medium Rekka, hold forward tap the FADC, tap and hold forward again, tap medium kick, release and tap forward and hope your final HP comes out.

[dood23]

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=183462 Could this be of use to you?

interesting, trying that method today i could only get as far as the first hp. i'll give that a little more time. maybe you could describe it some more? am i supposed to be mashing pause, making the game move in slow-mo so i can find the right frame? i've been hearing good things about the pause trick but i cant quite grasp what i'm supposed to be doing with it


after the QCF for the Medium Rekka, hold forward tap the FADC, tap and hold forward again, tap medium kick, release and tap forward and hope your final HP comes out.

i'll give this some practice too, i think the reason i mess up so much is because i let the analog go neutral before tapping again and end up dashing 3 or 4 times by accident :sweat:

[SA_RoB]

after the QCF for the Medium Rekka, hold forward tap the FADC, tap and hold forward again, tap medium kick, release and tap forward and hope your final HP comes out.

I've failed that last HP so many times... when i do finally get it i'm going to be so happy :)

[Dogma]

It took me a few hours, but it really is a matter of Muscle Memory.

If you practice the whole combo, taking it step by step and understanding how to complete most of it, eventually it'll all come out nice and fluidly.

I haven't found too much use for majority of the combos, outside of the normal trials, but it's good to try that Hard Punch dash for purely shifting the rhythm of the fight.

[dood23]

omfg. i finally got it. and you guys can not imagine how happy i was to hear the words "success."

praise be the gods. that was way too satisfying.

[dthadamaja]

ugh....trial 5 hard is a pain in the a** should i even bother still trying with a ps3 controller or wait for a stick...?

[Fulaani]

It took me a few hours, but it really is a matter of Muscle Memory.

If you practice the whole combo, taking it step by step and understanding how to complete most of it, eventually it'll all come out nice and fluidly.

I haven't found too much use for majority of the combos, outside of the normal trials, but it's good to try that Hard Punch dash for purely shifting the rhythm of the fight.Abel's trial combo's are actually exceptionally usefull imo. Not all but most.

[dood23]

ugh....trial 5 hard is a pain in the a** should i even bother still trying with a ps3 controller or wait for a stick...?

i managed to do it with a 360 controller. check out dogma's earlier post with the reconfigured buttons, that helped me a lot. just apply it to your ps3 controller.

also, use everything you can to help with the timing. i used the sound effects as an audio cue to help me time the f.mk > dash > hp. just listen to the sounds of dan getting hit, dan yelling, the sound of abel dashing, everything. :looney:

i didnt think i was going to complete this trial either but just keep pounding it into your head and eventually you'll get it.

[crapface]

After repeatedly doing 5, you eventually get into a rhythm and the timing will come. I didn't think I was going to get it but I got this much quicker than I got Ken 4. Eventually, it just feels like you're doing the first part over and over again because the 2nd part is just the repeat of the first part. The trickiest part is linking the first part with the 2nd part.

[AaronS]

I can do f.mk xx dash, s.hp xx rekka xx FADC xx c. HP -> combo a decent amount of the time now >.<

But really, the pause trick is lame. If you wanna get better you actually have to get your execution down. Not to see most of the challenge mode combos are practical lol.

[xAVARICEx]

I ge the combo all the way to focus cancel...however i can never connect foward medium kick afterwards...either i keep dashing or jus med kick w/o dash..any helpful info as to how the input should be will be very helpful

[xAVARICEx]

I can get combo down to focus canceling his med change of dir....however i can never land the foward med kick after..it seems i either just keep dashing w/o landing a kick..or land the med kick without the dash. Any sage advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated. Is it possible for anyone to post input?..what am i doing wrong? (Ooops ...didnt realize i posted 2x)

[BustaWurf]

I ge the combo all the way to focus cancel...however i can never connect foward medium kick afterwards...either i keep dashing or jus med kick w/o dash..any helpful info as to how the input should be will be very helpful

after you hit :r: to dash out of ex focus, keep holding :r: while you press :mk: instead of trying to tap :r: and :mk: together.

[xAVARICEx]

so i press foward 2x then hold it..or foward once and hold?...or...tap foward 1x then hold on 2nd?...also...how would i be able to finish combo....?..after i do land med kick do I have to dash foward again then hp? btw..wurf thx.

[BustaWurf]

so i press foward 2x then hold it..or foward once and hold?...or...tap foward 1x then hold on 2nd?...also...how would i be able to finish combo....?..after i do land med kick do I have to dash foward again then hp? btw..wurf thx.

from the start

hold :r:, press :mk:, tap :r:, press :hp:, QCF :mp: (keep :r: held down), FA (with :r: still held), tap :r: and hold, :mk: (with :r: still held), tap :r:, :hp:

[xAVARICEx]

i will try this later...ty 4 ur help...let me know if theres any combo i can help u with...got only 5 combos left.

[nin-jay]

For the past month I have only had about an hour a night to play. I am still stuck on Hard #2. I can f.mk+dash consistantly and i can f.pxxrekka about 75-25. My only issue is connecting the two together. I can connect the f.mk+dash f.p about 1 out of 10 tries. I will try paying attention to the dust that comes out under his feet, and hopefully that will fix it.:wasted:

[zookk]

mk>Dash---->H.P>(qcf)HP>f.HP>f.HP

I dont get it. I can get the first three parts no problem. When i try to chain the change of direction to the heavy punch it never works, Abel just completes the two Heavy punches without even bothering to start "change of direction". So I guess im not doing it fast enough? Well I tried doing the change of direction faster, only to find out that the heavy punch becomes a cr.hp which doesn't work for the combo. How is anyone getting this done?

Never-mind, I did it. I hate these combos.... 98% of them aren't even skill, they are based on luck depending on whether or not the computer accepts your commands. I cant wait for hard trial 5 to see how many millions of attempts it will take before the game says "ok ok ok you proved yourself, go on to the next character."


:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Aint Gangsta]

Practice Practice Practice

[Strider Hyriu]

mk>Dash---->H.P>(qcf)HP>f.HP>f.HP

I dont get it. I can get the first three parts no problem. When i try to chain the change of direction to the heavy punch it never works, Abel just completes the two Heavy punches without even bothering to start "change of direction". So I guess im not doing it fast enough? Well I tried doing the change of direction faster, only to find out that the heavy punch becomes a cr.hp which doesn't work for the combo. How is anyone getting this done?

Never-mind, I did it. I hate these combos.... 98% of them aren't even skill, they are based on luck depending on whether or not the computer accepts your commands. I cant wait for hard trial 5 to see how many millions of attempts it will take before the game says "ok ok ok you proved yourself, go on to the next character."


:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I wouldn't say it's luck...... I think its ALL about timing, as fwd.mk -> st.fp requires a very strict timing..(fyi. if you want to complete hard trial 5, i would suggest you master this link :lol:)

[KGershkoff]

I'm currently stuck on this one. It seems easy enough until you get to the Roll into the Falling Sky. I have 2 problems with this.

1) After the roll, I go into the Super Move.

2) The Roll doesn't come out fast enough or not at all.

Can anyone help me with this?

[BustaWurf]

I'm currently stuck on this one. It seems easy enough until you get to the Roll into the Falling Sky. I have 2 problems with this.

1) After the roll, I go into the Super Move.

2) The Roll doesn't come out fast enough or not at all.

Can anyone help me with this?

go back to neutral on the dpad/stick before you input the falling sky. it sounds like you're trying to rush it.

[X-Treme12345]

Well I tried doing the change of direction faster, only to find out that the heavy punch becomes a cr.hp which doesn't work for the combo.

Then you're not doing it faster, you're doing it earlier. Do the motion faster after you press the HP, not before/at the same time. Practice it, it's one of the easiest cancels in the game.

[Yankeeblugenes]

mk>Dash---->H.P>(qcf)HP>f.HP>f.HP

I dont get it. I can get the first three parts no problem. When i try to chain the change of direction to the heavy punch it never works, Abel just completes the two Heavy punches without even bothering to start "change of direction". So I guess im not doing it fast enough? Well I tried doing the change of direction faster, only to find out that the heavy punch becomes a cr.hp which doesn't work for the combo. How is anyone getting this done?

Never-mind, I did it. I hate these combos.... 98% of them aren't even skill, they are based on luck depending on whether or not the computer accepts your commands. I cant wait for hard trial 5 to see how many millions of attempts it will take before the game says "ok ok ok you proved yourself, go on to the next character."


:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

It seems hard but after doing it 100+ times it gets easier, now if i get that first hit in I am going into COD. Just do it till its reflex.

[ionix]

it took me forever to do the hard challenge 5. Probably a lot longer than most but now i think it will go with me to my grave sort of like up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,b,a,start. I tried it again a few weeks later just to see if I still had it, i got it in 3 tries.

Unfortunately there are no easy ways around this one, you have to do your time at the controller :(

[gigabyte]

i'm having trouble with hard trial 4, after the roll, i always get the "super" instead of falling sky, anyone knows why? any tips on trial 4?

[Linchburg]

i'm having trouble with hard trial 4, after the roll, i always get the "super" instead of falling sky, anyone knows why? any tips on trial 4?

try double-tapping DF instead of performing the whole motion. it'll register for the FS. helped me, i had the same problem.

[rinoH]

try double-tapping DF instead of performing the whole motion. it'll register for the FS. helped me, i had the same problem.

tnx for that tip i just got to Trial 5 because of it

[Chewmandinga]

like avarice, i am also stuck on the mk-dash after the cancel.

the cancel is also rather tricky for me so getting the whole thing out without the most amount of practise will be horrific.

i'll try the advice given by bustawurf and check back later. thanks.

[rick_derris]

just dedicate half of your day for this. lol. Man.. I should do my homework, but I want to finish Abel NOW!!! Good luck to you all.

[Poink]

The only hard trials I have left to do are Gen's last two and Abel's 5th...
I'll actually probably end up doing Gen's before Abel's, because I honestly can't get the timing down for his mk dash into hp. It's definitely the hardest link in any of the hard trials, like just in itself. The fact that you have to do it twice in the combo is what makes it so hard. On the rare occasion that I even pull it off the first time, I usually don't even time the second mk correctly after the fadc. =[

I don't even want to think about how much time I'm gonna spend on this one. ;\

[dhcwhat1]

my guide to the dreaded 5th hard trial:confused:

alright i'm not gonna lie, the first time I ever did this trial I did it with the turbo button on hp and just got lucky after 2 hours of trying it.

flash forward it to now, I can get it after about ten minutes.


guys, the trick really falls into landing the f+mk to s. hp link. THIS IS CRUCIAL IF YOU EVER WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS TRIAL. So how does one actually go about landing it? Well first of you have to be able pull off the f+mk as if it was second nature. The next step involves watching Abel. If you notice, he kind of ducks then pops back up.

Before he pops back up, press down :hp: then bring down a second finger on :mp: so that in affect its...... :hp: followed almost instantly by :hp: :mp:

IF YOU DID IT TOO FAST, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN
IF YOU DID IT TOO LATE DAN WILL BLOCK

The key is timing - think of the dash movement as a move set that takes X amount of frames to execute, YOUR GOAL is to p link HP as SOON AS those frames are done with

I hoped that helped.

[HAV]

That was a mighty dramatic post to state something so obvious.

[dhcwhat1]

That was a mighty dramatic post to state something so obvious.

I go hard son!

No, on a serious note though, I was jumping like a little girl once I was able to perform this on a consistent basis.

[Arbie21]

omg so i just recently started using abel and i got to his hard trial 5. im getting all the way up to the FADC cancel. When i properly cancel, i keep dashing forward cuz i have a tendancy of just mashing forward for the FADC. Now since im fairly new i have A LOT to learn about abel. So i was thinking, play with him and get better then come back to the trial because i dont care too much about his icons. Will his hard trial 5 be easier to perform as i get better with abel?

[Teez]

omg so i just recently started using abel and i got to his hard trial 5. im getting all the way up to the FADC cancel. When i properly cancel, i keep dashing forward cuz i have a tendancy of just mashing forward for the FADC. Now since im fairly new i have A LOT to learn about abel. So i was thinking, play with him and get better then come back to the trial because i dont care too much about his icons. Will his hard trial 5 be easier to perform as i get better with abel?

no. it's all timing. some people have been playing ryu for a year now and still can't do a 3 frame link to save their life. fw mk to st. fierce is 1 frame. practice it a lot

damn, this tread is old

[Arbie21]

urgh but with more play timing gets better right? i just dont want to focus on his hard trial like i did with ryu and rog wen i mained them. Im wierd i have to have the trials done if i main someone. the fwd mk to st fp isnt the hardest thing for me though, its the FADC to fwd mk. i mash out fwds, then end up dashing instead of fwd mk

also didnt want to make another thread so i figure i look it up

[Teez]

urgh but with more play timing gets better right? i just dont want to focus on his hard trial like i did with ryu and rog wen i mained them. Im wierd i have to have the trials done if i main someone. the fwd mk to st fp isnt the hardest thing for me though, its the FADC to fwd mk. i mash out fwds, then end up dashing instead of fwd mk

also didnt want to make another thread so i figure i look it up

well your solution to that is simple, don't mash out fwds after the fadc. think of it like this, after you do the first cod, it's kind of like doing two dashes in succession before the next st. fp, except one of them you have to press mp and mk with (fadc), and one of them you press fw.mk +fw , fw

[hfz69]

yeah teez already answered it, you know damn well whats the problem is(the forward mashing), so stop doing so.

as for whether or not will you be able to do it later, i dont think anyone can guarantee you that. you cant say with more playing time = getting better because that can depends on some factors like your own understanding of the character, your execution, matchups, and how good your opponents are..... if you have 9000 hours of play time but against shitty players, you're not getting better as much as youre getting worse(since youre very likely to develop bad habits).

[Sh33p]

Hah, I hate that I can do the f.mk to s.hp most of the time, but I still mess up the m.cod FADC occasionally.

[Arbie21]

so i finally got it. but i had to use turbo :( is that bad? Is that combo impractical?

[hfz69]

so i finally got it. but i had to use turbo :( is that bad? Is that combo impractical?

wtf turbo???? anyway doesnt matter if its just to unlock the stuff. that combo is indeed impractical.

...but yeah, to be actually good with abel, expect no shortcuts.

[Arbie21]

lol yeah turbo FTL!!! But the reason i wanted it so bad was because when i main a character i like to do all the trials just for a sense of having the basics down. But it seems since that one is impractical, its not a part of the "basics" like the hard trial 2,3, and 4 are. Its not like im going to use turbo in an actual match, it was on solely for that trial.

[Teez]

lol yeah turbo FTL!!! But the reason i wanted it so bad was because when i main a character i like to do all the trials just for a sense of having the basics down. But it seems since that one is impractical, its not a part of the "basics" like the hard trial 2,3, and 4 are. Its not like im going to use turbo in an actual match, it was on solely for that trial.

uhm, is the combo impractical? yes.. in a match. however, if you want to get good at the fw mk to standing fierce link, and also wanna be able to fadc during that combo consistently, trial 5 is super helpful for that, gets your execution really up to speed once you can consistently do it. just because you're probably not going to use that specific combo in a match, you will definitely use variations of it, so don't pass it off as useless bs, because it isn't. lol, never heard of an abel player using turbo before

[Arbie21]

however, if you want to get good at the fw mk to standing fierce link, and also wanna be able to fadc during that combo consistently

i can fadc fine, as for the fwd+mk -> st fp, that isn't the problem i had with the trial. Yeah i can use practice for sure, but my main difficulty with the trial was not those parts. fierce link can be found in hard trial 2, and fadc can be found in 3 and 4 as well.

[electric]

i can fadc fine, as for the fwd+mk -> st fp, that isn't the problem i had with the trial. Yeah i can use practice for sure, but my main difficulty with the trial was not those parts. fierce link can be found in hard trial 2, and fadc can be found in 3 and 4 as well.

Then what's the problem ? It still seems like a cop out :P

[Arbie21]

the fadc to fwd + mk, just seems wierd to me and it was difficult to do

[electric]

the fadc to fwd + mk, just seems wierd to me and it was difficult to do

Just hold the F after the dash... inputs would look something like this

d, df, f + mp (keep holding f), mp + mk + neutral, f (hold), mk

People have this weird misconception that you need to do f + mk, f, f. You don't. You just need to do f + mk, f. It's the same with focus dashing. If you press mp + mk while you're already holding forward, you only need to press forward once more to complete the dash.

[Arbie21]

why are u telling me, i already did it

[electric]

why are u telling me, i already did it

Because you cheated. And don't forget, this is a forum. Other people may see this one day and think "Oh shit, I don't have to use turbo because of this super useful post - wow... learning these small nuances of the input system as opposed to learning nothing whatsoever by using turbo is so much more helpful to me as a player"

[Arbie21]

ok i knew that you can just do fwd+mk then fwd. Who cares that i cheated? It's a trial. And your post just has this tone of "im better than you" annoyingness to it. Your not nice!

[Arbie21]

haha did it without turbo, now be quiet

[DaDesiCanadian]

so i finally got it. but i had to use turbo :( is that bad? Is that combo impractical?

It's not impractical, it's just not efficient, since it wastes all your meter for little damage. I still do it if i'm dicking around in a match though.

[electric]

haha did it without turbo, now be quiet

Good - and now you're smarter, better and happier for it. And honestly, how can you get better if you don't take advice from better players ? I'm not saying I'm better than you, but I've definitely been playing Abel much longer than you. You came here for advice, so either prepare to accept it and move on as a better player, or don't. It's your choice.

[Arbie21]

yeah i know thats why i redid it. cuz the better player is right.

[Teez]

It's not impractical, it's just not efficient, since it wastes all your meter for little damage. I still do it if i'm dicking around in a match though.

the excessive meter for little damage output is exactly what makes the combo impractical. impractical doesn't mean that it wouldn't be possible to pull off in a match, just that it would not be favorable over other superior options.


And arbie, it seems to me like you're trying to take shortcuts and cut corners in learning abel. you say you're maining him, but you get all offended when electric tries to give you helpful advice, jus because you did it without turbo doesn't mean you can do it consistently. continue to practice it, it will definitely improve your abelity (useful pun hfz lol), as an abel player

[Arbie21]

lol gotcha

[dhcwhat1]

arbie,
i will not lie to you, the first time i did abels level 5 hard trial, i also cheated :p used the turbo button

but once you realize how CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT that f+mk to s. hp link is, you get the bigger picture that the trial really isnt that hard

ive gotten so good at it that i get all my friends their abel icons for free :P

practice. practice practice.