Sagat's Challenge Mode

[aptlynamed]

Who has completed them all?

Lets get a list of unlockable titles and Trial Hard tips going.

Titles
TN1:
TN2:
TN3:
TN4:
TN5:
TH1: Anti-Shoryuken
TH2: Tiger
TH3: One-Eyed Warrior
TH4: Scarred Chest
TH5: Invincible Tiger

Tips

All challenges completed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AJHtk46ivY

TH2
First get c.lk xx hp upper down pat. The cancel is quick.
For the 3 x c.lk, double tapping helps tons here. Just get the rhythm down.

You can actually link the cr.lk into fp dp if you find that the motion is getting in the way. That's how i do it now.- noodleman

TH3
One thing I noticed about his TH3 is that you need to fadc out of the upper super fast to avoid dashing under Dan's body. I kept dashing under the body until I noticed I was fadcing just a tad bit slow. Little bit of quickness got it down 100%.

it's abit easier if your j.rh hits at the tip instead of a close hit to avoid dashing under dan. You can also add in a cr.lp after the cr.mp if that makes it easier for you to space yourself. Also make sure you're mid screen and not in the corner...makes your life MUCh easier.-noodleman

TH4
For TH4 you want to be slightly distanced when you do the c.mk into tiger shot, as soon as you do the tiger shot cancel into your FA if you're distanced enough it will give you the extra amount of time to get off a crumple FA then you dash c.mp and tiger knee. This one was a pain in the ass but TH5 is easier imo. -Trophy Club

Yeah, after attempting TH4 like a millions times, figured out best distance measurement is push dan to the left corner and have sagats right heel just barely touching the red line, that distance is pretty good percentage on getting FA to crumple -Warren

Your timing is most likely just a little too early. While I was stuck on this one, I made sure I practiced JUST the Low TigerShot ~ ex FADC timing so I could figure out how long I had to hold focus for to get the "crumple." The window feels VERY small (it feels like it's about 2-3 frames.) Just get the focus attack timing down and the rest of the combo is fairly straight forward. - Capn Spanky

[IronFist]

yeah that shit was pissing me off yesterday the FA has to crumple them, then you dash up c.mp

[Trophy Club]

Titles in order are
Anti-Shoryuken
Tiger
One-Eyed Warrior
Scarred Chest
Invincible Tiger

For TH4 you want to be slightly distanced when you do the c.mk into tiger shot, as soon as you do the tiger shot cancel into your FA if you're distanced enough it will give you the extra amount of time to get off a crumple FA then you dash c.mp and tiger knee. This one was a pain in the ass but TH5 is easier imo.

[mugenXinfinite]

god dammit i cant do th2 lol. i kno u have to get close but what the timing with the 3x C.lk

[Warren]

Yeah, after attempting TH4 like a millions times, figured out best distance measurement is push dan to the left corner and have sagats right heel just barely touching the red line, that distance is pretty good percentage on getting FA to crumple

[fobi0]

I find the key to doing links is to drum the button.

Just take your middle and index and in one smooth motion, hit with middle, slide it off, and hit with index.
You are essentially double tapping the button.

It works wonders. Try it and behold the magic. :D


EDIT: Never mind, aptly's got it covered, but I'll leave the post up for posterity.

[EMJAYEL]

Just finished all Sagat's trials! =D One of life's little joys is seeing that "Success!" flash on the screen after an hour or two of mashing the same damn buttons over and over again. =P

The Invincible Tiger title looks so much cooler than just plain old Tiger, haha.

[B3rni]

what move is the fake kick in TN1?

[rawr]

Double tap HK really fast.

[roSTA]

Did anyone have any trouble with Level 4 on Normal Trial? I'm not able to get that Tiger Genocide in after his knee. Heh, I've never frantically pressed buttons in a video game for my 360 until SF4 =/. But, I guess I should work more on my timing more.

Also, do you guys ever use the combos you learn in challenge mode in a real battle?

[PBalla]

i've attempted to, roSTA. but hardly successful

[Capn Spanky]

Also, do you guys ever use the combos you learn in challenge mode in a real battle?

Yeah, for the most part. Don't focus on using ENTIRE combos, because chances are, if it takes you 500 tries in challenge mode, it will take you 500 tries in a real match.

As far as I'm concerned though, jumping HK, c. MP., HP Tiger Uppercut, ex FADC, Forward Standing HK, Ultra is really really good.

Everything after the MP is considered to be part of his BnB combo repertoire iirc. It just takes practice. Something which I should be doing right now.

edit: Aptlynamed, I've completed all of Sagat's trials if you're still interested.

[stylone]

still need help with TH2... i always seem to manage to get the 3lk in but i always cancel into a tiger shot instead of uppercut. Do i change the stick to neutral then do the motion or go into a forward down forward fierce? please help.

[djKun]

I can't seem to be able to do TH4. I mean I'm a bit distanced or close, I can't manage to hit or even land a crumple. Is my timing wrong? I actually did connect c.mk,lts~fadc and hit but it wasn't a crumple...

[Brick City]

in challenge 3 moves 1&2 are getting hard for me. how would i preform these on first try

[keanerie]

still need help with TH2... i always seem to manage to get the 3lk in but i always cancel into a tiger shot instead of uppercut. Do i change the stick to neutral then do the motion or go into a forward down forward fierce? please help.

Hold DF during the LKs, release at the end and hit DF again for the FP.

[stylone]

Hold DF during the LKs, release at the end and hit DF again for the FP.

hahaha nice i totally forgot you can tap df twice to pull out a tiger... much thanks

[izanagisama]

Yup the shortcuts make some of the challenges a little easier.

As for TH5 where should I be aiming to hit at? I can juggle with the ultra after ex.upper fine, but can't seem to get the full animation.

Edit: Nevermind, just got it. Seems you just have to do it quick enough so that the first hit connects; guess I was just letting him drop too far.

[Capn Spanky]

still need help with TH2... i always seem to manage to get the 3lk in but i always cancel into a tiger shot instead of uppercut. Do i change the stick to neutral then do the motion or go into a forward down forward fierce? please help.

When I did it I tried to go to neutral while the 3rd c.LK was still on its way out. Then I started the motion as fast as I could. It took me a few tries, but eventually I got it. I still don't think I could hit it consistently in match though.


I can't seem to be able to do TH4. I mean I'm a bit distanced or close, I can't manage to hit or even land a crumple. Is my timing wrong? I actually did connect c.mk,lts~fadc and hit but it wasn't a crumple...

Your timing is most likely just a little too early. While I was stuck on this one, I made sure I practiced JUST the Low TigerShot ~ ex FADC timing so I could figure out how long I had to hold focus for to get the "crumple." The window feels VERY small (it feels like it's about 2-3 frames.) Just get the focus attack timing down and the rest of the combo is fairly straight forward.

[prophet714]

Hey guys,

Im having trouble doing the 3 cLKs. is it timing? whats this cancel thing i read about.. they are not talkin about the FADC right? cuase that would be so slow, and for 3 LKs, that would waste the whole full bar.. please elaborate.. thanks

cheers

[prophet714]

also, where do i see the titles at? I dont see whre i could set them to get the achievement

[keanerie]

Hey guys,

Im having trouble doing the 3 cLKs. is it timing? whats this cancel thing i read about.. they are not talkin about the FADC right? cuase that would be so slow, and for 3 LKs, that would waste the whole full bar.. please elaborate.. thanks

cheers

Yes, it's timing. You might just be doing it too fast - the rhythm you need for the inputs is very precise, and in my experience, slower than you would think. Try getting the timing down for LK, LK and LK, LP, and then try tagging on the last LK.

You cancel the last LK with a FP Uppercut. No FADC...

Also, I'm stuck on TH4. Reading the tips here but can't seem to get the crumple FA to hit before Dan recovers from the Tiger Shot. Sigh, back to the training room...

[PrimalJudge]

The problem I have is his Fake Kick. I can't seem to pull it off. I press HK+HK quickly but it doesn't register.

[MYK jamgi]

th4 was a bitch, especially since c.mp happens to whiff in the corner..

[noodleman]

TH2
First get c.lk xx hp upper down pat. The cancel is quick.
For the 3 x c.lk, double tapping helps tons here. Just get the rhythm down.

You can actually link the cr.lk into fp dp if you find that the motion is getting in the way. That's how i do it now.



TH3
One thing I noticed about his TH3 is that you need to fadc out of the upper super fast to avoid dashing under Dan's body. I kept dashing under the body until I noticed I was fadcing just a tad bit slow. Little bit of quickness got it down 100%.


it's abit easier if your j.rh hits at the tip instead of a close hit to avoid dashing under dan. You can also add in a cr.lp after the cr.mp if that makes it easier for you to space yourself. Also make sure you're mid screen and not in the corner...makes your life MUCh easier.

here's a vid of all the challenges completed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AJHtk46ivY&feature=channel_page

[K9999-izzle]

Hey i desprately need help with the fake tiger kicks
is the a motion i should wait for sagat to do, or anything?
I tried mashing forward hk and nothing
i saw in the video, he cancels it when his knee hits chest level, but can't do it
any advice???

[wat]

Pretend like you're bored and tapping your fingers on a desk. 1,2,3,4 .... now take that motion and use your middle and index finger on the HK. Tap the HK with your middle finger and immediately tap it again with your index finger. It should almost touch just as your middle finger is leaving the button. This is much easier to do on a joystick, but still possible on a pad.

[Immovable Mind]

Hey i desprately need help with the fake tiger kicks
is the a motion i should wait for sagat to do, or anything?
I tried mashing forward hk and nothing
i saw in the video, he cancels it when his knee hits chest level, but can't do it
any advice???
Push Dan in the corner. Jump up and HK on the way down. Do a neutral HK and keep pressing HK (fast). Took me about 2 seconds to pull it off.

[Difoj]

man, finally finished Sagats hard challenge, that damn EX cancel move always throws me off :bluu: the video was very helpful in getting the timing down from challenge 3-5.

[beraht]

I need help I'm having problems with NORMAL trial 4

I'm on the Heavy kick Medium Punch then ex tiger shot to ex tiger uppercut

any tips on landing the tiger shot? I can't seem to do it fast enough

[Lisimo]

Do the down-forward motion as you press med punch quickly do your EX button press as you do forw. down forw. for the uppercut EX.

For challenge 4 T genoc. to T Destr. set Dan up a quarter way from any corner - not in the corner - you'll pass under him. Good luck.

[HJNest]

I can#t get to grips with Sagat's first combo in the Normal Trial. Been playing SF for years but never really played it seriously til now so I guess I'm a noob in terms of my techincal level*lol*

I'm really struggling with my timing after the jumping HK and crouching MK, either I get a low tiger shot or get a tiger Knee but can't cancel into the Tiger Genocide.

Really need help, a diagram showing all inputs and some general advice with regards to timing inputs would be very much appreciated. I'm using an arcade stick.

Thanks

[Mr.Noodle]

I'm having trouble with 3x crouch LK + heavy tiger uppercut. Its the 3 crouch kick that's giving me trouble. The most i can connect is 2 and even I can't do that consistently. Not sure how to time it.

[beraht]

I'm having trouble with 3x crouch LK + heavy tiger uppercut. Its the 3 crouch kick that's giving me trouble. The most i can connect is 2 and even I can't do that consistently. Not sure how to time it.

Yeah, I'm on this trial now too, I am having the same problems

[rawr]

Get the timing down for the first two low shorts... Then use that same timing to do the third. I don't know... I just got a feel for the timing using the first two. The timing for the kicks is the hardest part.

[itsjedhimself]

I can#t get to grips with Sagat's first combo in the Normal Trial. Been playing SF for years but never really played it seriously til now so I guess I'm a noob in terms of my techincal level*lol*

I'm really struggling with my timing after the jumping HK and crouching MK, either I get a low tiger shot or get a tiger Knee but can't cancel into the Tiger Genocide.

Really need help, a diagram showing all inputs and some general advice with regards to timing inputs would be very much appreciated. I'm using an arcade stick.

Thanks

i have the same problem. i can't get the timing for the crouching MK to the tiger knee. any help would be appreciated.

[tanabe]

I'm having trouble with 3x crouch LK + heavy tiger uppercut. Its the 3 crouch kick that's giving me trouble. The most i can connect is 2 and even I can't do that consistently. Not sure how to time it.

same. i've been trying to double tap (middle finger drumming to index) but then i always have a hard time connecting the heavy tiger uppercut.

maybe i'm double tapping the wrong way?

[Capo Ricardo]

i have the same problem. i can't get the timing for the crouching MK to the tiger knee. any help would be appreciated.

Yeah, I'm a noob and stuck on this one too. There has to be some trick that I don't understand.

[alpax]

I admit I am still a noob after 17 years of playing SF on and off

I was wondering if it is even possible to do TH2 on a SixAxiS gamepad, I have an Arcade In a Box on order, but I was wondering if the wireless causes any sort of delay to throw off the timing of the 3 crouching low kicks.

[BenD the Truth]

I find it funny so many people are struggling with the fake kick because I do it by ACCIDENT sometimes when I do a S. HK (which is frustrating because I just want to mash HK). Everyone, just hit HK as fast as you can use two fingers if you have to.

[stylone]

does anyone have a few more advices for TH4? i have the distance and timing down to make dan crumple, but my medium punch goes past dan after the crumple. any help?

[Ancalima]

on th4 :/ after tiger shot u have to hold fa o just tap?:/ can't understand if i hold dan will block my fa if i don't hold dan will not crumple :/

[reap]

I'm stuck at Sagat Hard Trial 3.
Everytime I do the focus cancel after the uppercut I just ending up dashing one extra time after the cancel instead of doing the forward kick.

Anyone have any pro tips how to pull this off?

[Twist]

I admit I am still a noob after 17 years of playing SF on and off

I was wondering if it is even possible to do TH2 on a SixAxiS gamepad, I have an Arcade In a Box on order, but I was wondering if the wireless causes any sort of delay to throw off the timing of the 3 crouching low kicks.

The 3 crouching low kicks just have oddly difficult timing to get them to link. You're probably just pushing the button too quickly.

[kuyasean]

currently on th5. i did all my challenges with controller, so its possible

[djKun]

on th4 :/ after tiger shot u have to hold fa o just tap?:/ can't understand if i hold dan will block my fa if i don't hold dan will not crumple :/

You have to hold FA and release the moment you flash. The timing on it is annoying :(

you have to fa after the tiger shot almost immediately

[bebithanos]

TH4 is a pain in my ass too ;_;

After c.mp I do knee but he blocks it. Would that mean it's not cancelling? or I'm not close enough for the knee to hit?

[kuyasean]

TH4 is a pain in my ass too ;_;

After c.mp I do knee but he blocks it. Would that mean it's not cancelling? or I'm not close enough for the knee to hit?

you may not be close enough. make sure your dashing after the fa.

[Morphiend]

can someone please post the exact inputs for th4? i dont think im cancelling out of the tiger shot fast enough but when i dash out of it i cant get my focus attack out or dan will block it. i want invincible tiger.

[ayz]

i can TU, FADC, f+HK, ultra but i can't chain together the 3 LKs -> HP TU for the life of me jesus christ

the main problem is getting the 3rd LK in time to not get blocked

[MetalGearFlex]

TH 4 I still can't get it, but i'm getting closer, the distance thing helps a bit, but you still have to get the timing in the Level 2 Focus really fast, pain in the ass combo that you'll never use in a match.

[Quest2be1]

Great post aptlynamed, you just helped me out with TH3.

[Morphiend]

invincible tiger is finally mine! th4 was a pain in the ass. i wasted a few hours doing it wrong the whole time but after i realized what i needed to do it didnt take that long. th5 then took a couple minutes which made me ecstatic when the final complete screen come up. i feel the hard trials have definately improved my game.

[kingman4]

anyone have tips on the timing of the EX TU -> Ultra? Most of the time when i pull it off, Dan is by sagat's face... but as you all know, the opponent needs to be overhead during the "tigerrrr......" ultra intro animation.... Timing tips appreciated!

[Quest2be1]

So frustrating... This c.MP>Tiger knee and/or c.MP>Tiger Uppercut is owning me so hard. I'm not stuck on TH5 just because of the c.MP>EX Tiger Uppercut. Can someone please give me a solid tip for this so I can bring my success rate up? It's not my timing, it's my execution :(

[wussmonster]

wow guys. AWESOME advice. dunno who said it 1st, but tapping the button input twice worked wonders for me. just finished Trial Hard 3 after about a night of working on it. I'm not gonna lie, I did the happy dance. Lookin' forward to 4 and 5 now.

thx!

[VPT]

How many frames does the second HK of the fake kick require after pressing the first one?

[aceball]

invincible tiger is finally mine! th4 was a pain in the ass. i wasted a few hours doing it wrong the whole time but after i realized what i needed to do it didnt take that long. th5 then took a couple minutes which made me ecstatic when the final complete screen come up. i feel the hard trials have definately improved my game.

So waht exactly did you change for all of us who are stil wasting time doing it wrong?

[Rewok]

Apparently not the sarcastic entitlement. :)

[poisonousjuice]

So waht exactly did you change for all of us who are stil wasting time doing it wrong?

for hard trial #4, I dont know what Morphiend was doing wrong but I can share my experience of hours doing it wrong and finally getting it.

If you have dan in the corner, it is very important to have space between the two of you for a better chance of him crumpling. I would try to stand as far away as possible but still be able to connect with the first crouching medium kick. and you have to release the focus attack the instant Sagat flashes.

Also you must dash after you successfully get Dan to crumple before doing the crouching medium punch.

The final thing that I wasn't doing properly, and I'm not sure if it was already mentioned in this thread, but after Dan crumples, and you dash forward and crouch, you have to wait to the last possible moment to throw your medium punch. I would always dash and instantly be trying to pull off a crouching punch. it either didn't connect or i'd do a tiger uppercut. after the dash, crouch, wait just a brief moment and throw the punch and immediately do the motion for tiger knee after the punch.

I hope that helps someone!

[wussmonster]

for hard trial #4, I dont know what Morphiend was doing wrong but I can share my experience of hours doing it wrong and finally getting it.

If you have dan in the corner, it is very important to have space between the two of you for a better chance of him crumpling. I would try to stand as far away as possible but still be able to connect with the first crouching medium kick. and you have to release the focus attack the instant Sagat flashes.

Also you must dash after you successfully get Dan to crumple before doing the crouching medium punch.

The final thing that I wasn't doing properly, and I'm not sure if it was already mentioned in this thread, but after Dan crumples, and you dash forward and crouch, you have to wait to the last possible moment to throw your medium punch. I would always dash and instantly be trying to pull off a crouching punch. it either didn't connect or i'd do a tiger uppercut. after the dash, crouch, wait just a brief moment and throw the punch and immediately do the motion for tiger knee after the punch.

I hope that helps someone!


SPOT ON! I just finished TH4 with this bit of advice.

If you're playing on a 360, push dan all the way to the right corner. Then for the spacing, put Sagat's RIGHT BIG TOE underneath the "Y" in "Change Display". Also, it helps to break the combo into 2 parts. Try standing there, getting a L2 focus, then dashing out to do the l.mp + tk. You gotta wait a fraction of a second when you get in close enough (wait 'til dan is on his knees) before you start the l. mp. For about an hour i was missing it and just connecting with the TK. After you got this down, throw the beginning in. Took me a few hours but the above advice I quoted is dead on.

Looking forward to TH5 now. :)

[wussmonster]

Hells ya mofos! Just finished TH5, stupid easier than TH4. Got it done in about 15mins. Missed w/ the ultra twice, but got it the 3rd time.

Invincible Tiger and Block Head Sagat are mine! Whoooozaa!

Thx for all the AWESOME help in this thread. You guys rock. If anyone needs help, hit me up on XBL or here.

[poisonousjuice]

SPOT ON! I just finished TH4 with this bit of advice.

If you're playing on a 360, push dan all the way to the right corner. Then for the spacing, put Sagat's RIGHT BIG TOE underneath the "Y" in "Change Display". Also, it helps to break the combo into 2 parts. Try standing there, getting a L2 focus, then dashing out to do the l.mp + tk. You gotta wait a fraction of a second when you get in close enough (wait 'til dan is on his knees) before you start the l. mp. For about an hour i was missing it and just connecting with the TK. After you got this down, throw the beginning in. Took me a few hours but the above advice I quoted is dead on.

Looking forward to TH5 now. :)

I'm glad all my frustration and suffering was able to help at least one person :) The 5th one isn't "easy" but compared to #4, it's a piece of cake!

[The Judge]

Can anyone offer any tips for TH5? I'm having a tough time hitting the ultra after the EX uppercut. Am I supposed to buffer the move as Sagat comes to the floor or just pull off the 2xQCF as soon as he lands?

EDIT - Ain't that a bitch. Lol. Literally as soon as I try it again after posting here I pull it off! For future reference, you just have to pull off the 2xQCF really quickly as soon as you land.

[wussmonster]

you should be able to buffer the 2xqcf just after the last punch hits dan. then tap all 3 kicks on landing it you should have it.


congrats on TH5 completed.

[lostorion]

for th4, give just like a nanometer of space between you two and have dan cornered into the right... when sagat starts his focus attack, watch his elbow... right when the tip of his elbow is about to hit the 4th bold grey line on the training area release... spam start to measure if it helps... you can have him cornered all the way in, this making measurements concise but some people prefer putting a little space YMMV

good luck

[Shinzen]

wooho TH5 completed thanks to tips in this thread. enjoying the sagat cube :)

[MetalGearFlex]

SPOT ON! I just finished TH4 with this bit of advice.

If you're playing on a 360, push dan all the way to the right corner. Then for the spacing, put Sagat's RIGHT BIG TOE underneath the "Y" in "Change Display". Also, it helps to break the combo into 2 parts. Try standing there, getting a L2 focus, then dashing out to do the l.mp + tk. You gotta wait a fraction of a second when you get in close enough (wait 'til dan is on his knees) before you start the l. mp. For about an hour i was missing it and just connecting with the TK. After you got this down, throw the beginning in. Took me a few hours but the above advice I quoted is dead on.

Looking forward to TH5 now. :)

PERFECT I GOT IT after 15 minutes, thank you all.

[Midian]

ech.. finally, managed trial 3 :)

my UP > FADC kept ending up as UP>Genocide.. really annoying

[goldengloves]

I got just completed all . Thanks to this thread.

[neemo6]

Im having issues w/ #4, specifically the dash to land the c.mp. I can land c.mk>ts>fa lv2 crumple all day, but the dash and c.mp is owning me right now.

[neemo6]

Alright finally got it!! I was dashing to late, problem was i was pressing f,f after the fa landed, not during the fa sequence. Also I had more luck w/ consistency starting out w/ Sagats right toe on the 'a' on "change display". Trial 5, took a little bit but nowhere near as hard as 4.

[andeRK83]

finally got the sagat icons!!

[DRoseROY]

Am i retarded i can't do the light punch to heavy kick link. Trial 5 on the normal. Anyone got some advice?

[JakeSteel]

I cannot do sagats hard trial 5. I can c mp to tiger upercut by itself, but when I have to add in that little combo I keep messing up.

[kameleon69]

For challenge 4 T genoc. to T Destr. set Dan up a quarter way from any corner - not in the corner - you'll pass under him. Good luck.

What is the timing on when I'm suppose to do the T Destr.? Do I do it right when I land or start the combo while in the air?

[wussmonster]

buffer the imput just after the last hit and press KKK right when you land

[adz]

Gonna have a bash at Sagats hard trial 4 tomorrow evening, tried and tried and find it painfully difficult. :wasted:

[grumpy64]

I know you all get tired of hearing the same questions over and over. None the less i am having trouble with ht2. I can link crouching light kick to heavy TU no prob. I can get all three lks about 20 percent of the time. My problem is i can not land a TU after linking multiple lks. I have no idea why though because as far as i know dan has the same recovery time whether you do 1 or 2 or 3 lks.

[X-Treme12345]

I know you all get tired of hearing the same questions over and over. None the less i am having trouble with ht2. I can link crouching light kick to heavy TU no prob. I can get all three lks about 20 percent of the time. My problem is i can not land a TU after linking multiple lks. I have no idea why though because as far as i know dan has the same recovery time whether you do 1 or 2 or 3 lks.

Try doing the 3 c.LK slower a little slower.

[mercury[six6six]]

God I can't link the c.mp into TU in HT #3... keeps going into a gay tiger shot...

anyone got tips on execution?:wasted:

[sarc]

:df::df:

Press it twice fast to do a shortcut for the TU. Works with TK also

[wheelman]

noob here. is there a tutorial that explains the cancelling thing? after tons of practice i have the tiger genocide down and can land tiger destruction most of the time :rofl: These are about the most complicated things ive been able to do in the game. Anyway, the next challenge set stumps me completely. I don't understand the timing of the Standing Medium Punch, Cancel into Tiger Uppercut. I try to hit the punch button and then start the uppercut motion, but I am just not fast enough. Can someone explain how to time it so I can get this done? Also, if you have any shortcuts to the move sets listed in the challenges that are easier, that would be great as well.

[S u p r e m e]

fake kick is a bitch

[benqreade]

could someone show me the button command for Sagat HT 2?

i can do a c.lk xx tiger uppercut but only from standing position.

[YakiSOBA]

I really can't get TH4! Dan NEVER crumples, only twice and it happened by sheer luck!

The FA comes out, hits, but dan never goes down... arg!! I tried doing it right up close to him like in the youtube video posted earlier in this thread, I've tried spacing where his big toe is on the 'Y' or 'A' of the "change display" -- is it because I'm just not holding FA long enough?

2 things generally happen: FA lands, but dan doesnt crumple.... FA too slow to come out and dan blocks..

T_T

[YakiSOBA]

I DID IT!!!! TH4 !!!! and then I did TH5 on my FIRST TRY LOL!!!

Damn!! My biggest tip for anyone trying TH4 -- for me distance wasn't really a factor, I did it standing directly beside dan... for me, the biggest thing was watching the screen... you really need to hold onto your FA for 0.5 seconds longer than naturally... and to help, you look at sagat... after he flashes yellow (EX) is when I would normally let go, and get 0 crumpling... but after paying attention... you see it all happen slower by doing it over and over and eventually you will see the white flash.. the moment you see the white flash AFTER the yellow ex flash, you LET GO and then your FA will crumple him!

I kept letting go at the yellow EX flash, but I was for some reason not really paying attention to sagat... once you really look for it, you will see the white flash after the EX flash!

Invincible Tiger is mine! What icon did I get by doing TH5? I had 2 new ones and wasn't sure which came with TH5... milky square sagat, or regular SF4 square sagat?

[MuNoZ]

for hard trial #4, I dont know what Morphiend was doing wrong but I can share my experience of hours doing it wrong and finally getting it.

If you have dan in the corner, it is very important to have space between the two of you for a better chance of him crumpling. I would try to stand as far away as possible but still be able to connect with the first crouching medium kick. and you have to release the focus attack the instant Sagat flashes.

Also you must dash after you successfully get Dan to crumple before doing the crouching medium punch.

The final thing that I wasn't doing properly, and I'm not sure if it was already mentioned in this thread, but after Dan crumples, and you dash forward and crouch, you have to wait to the last possible moment to throw your medium punch. I would always dash and instantly be trying to pull off a crouching punch. it either didn't connect or i'd do a tiger uppercut. after the dash, crouch, wait just a brief moment and throw the punch and immediately do the motion for tiger knee after the punch.

I hope that helps someone!
that worked! I didn't know you had to wait to thorw the MP =/

[DILF]

I'm stuck at Sagat Hard Trial 3.
Everytime I do the focus cancel after the uppercut I just ending up dashing one extra time after the cancel instead of doing the forward kick.

Anyone have any pro tips how to pull this off?

Same here and it's driving me crazy. Are you supposed to cancel the 2nd part of the dash somehow into the > HK?

I don't get it. I watched the video but it's not helping. I always over dash by one.

[fitznblend]

FA Dashing a during combo requires you to press fw ONCE. not TWICE

Don't confuse DASHING with 2 fwds and you'll be ok. : )

Remember this only applies during combos.

[mX.]

having serious trouble with sagat's hard trial 3.

I can do the entire combo without the cr.medium punch

it throws off my timing and the rest of the combo =\

need some help :P

[DILF]

FA Dashing a during combo requires you to press fw ONCE. not TWICE

Don't confuse DASHING with 2 fwds and you'll be ok. : )

Remember this only applies during combos.

Ahhhhhhh. Maybe that's my problem. I didn't know it worked that way. I will try that, thanks.

Do you guys use a tournament stick or the 360 analog stick or D-Pad?

[D2Girls]

Its really dumb that you can't do his 4th hard trial the 'right' way, that is fadc into the c.mp, why must I do that pesky level 2 focus attack :(

[a sociopath]

FA Dashing a during combo requires you to press fw ONCE. not TWICE

Don't confuse DASHING with 2 fwds and you'll be ok. : )

Remember this only applies during combos.I hadn't noticed that. I need to try it. I've always double tapped to dash out of a FA...

[a sociopath]

After trying the single tap many times, I've come to the conclusion that it is false. You definitely need to double tap to dash out...

[JanembaJanemba]

To people who are having trouble with connecting the cr.mp (i know i did) after the EX FA in hard trial 4, Wait a split second and quarter of a second, just as long as you don't start mashing mp as soon as you FADC just wait, otherwise you'll miss it completely.

[drian]

After trying the single tap many times, I've come to the conclusion that it is false. You definitely need to double tap to dash out...


He's talking about dashing after focus attacking... not canceling the focus attack (I think)

[Saxon]

TN1: Tenacious King
TN2: Password is "Tiger"
TN3: Eyepatch
TN4: King of Muay Thai
TN5: Comeback King

And here for those who have trouble with the fake kick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD8VgZLbUJo

[itzjonny]

having trouble with hard trial 3 i always end up dashing under dan or not dashing at all T_T any tips how to FADC and link Forward Roundhouse?

[r00ster22]

after you FADC wait a split second before doing f.hk if you do it to fast he dashes under it is a slight delay.

[bitkid]

I just try to make sure I do the cancel as fast as possible so that Dan's body hasn't fallen much by the time I want to input the fwd.RH.

[TokyoDown]

Im sorry I can do everythin else every other combo except the Fake kick I hate it any tips on that?

[Mr.Miyagi]

Im sorry I can do everythin else every other combo except the Fake kick I hate it any tips on that?

Look at this:


And here for those who have trouble with the fake kick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD8VgZLbUJo

[The Kichijoji Bear]

Im sorry I can do everythin else every other combo except the Fake kick I hate it any tips on that?

if you dont have a stick you can try the jump and do it while you land technique. i forget exactly what your supposed to do but its essential rh right before you land, i think you just do 2 as fast as you can right before you land but maybe someone else can clarify. i know it can work though, if not consistantly

[TommyTwoTime77]

For the fake kick on a controller, I set RH to the RB and double tapped it, works really easily

[mickyman]

I DID IT!!!! TH4 !!!! and then I did TH5 on my FIRST TRY LOL!!!

Damn!! My biggest tip for anyone trying TH4 -- for me distance wasn't really a factor, I did it standing directly beside dan... for me, the biggest thing was watching the screen... you really need to hold onto your FA for 0.5 seconds longer than naturally... and to help, you look at sagat... after he flashes yellow (EX) is when I would normally let go, and get 0 crumpling... but after paying attention... you see it all happen slower by doing it over and over and eventually you will see the white flash.. the moment you see the white flash AFTER the yellow ex flash, you LET GO and then your FA will crumple him!

I kept letting go at the yellow EX flash, but I was for some reason not really paying attention to sagat... once you really look for it, you will see the white flash after the EX flash!

Invincible Tiger is mine! What icon did I get by doing TH5? I had 2 new ones and wasn't sure which came with TH5... milky square sagat, or regular SF4 square sagat?

I finally did it. Invicible Tiger!!! Thanks to everyone who gave information about the challenge -- specifically about TH4. That was the showstopper for me. The white flash AFTER the yellow flash was the key.

[Eksh]

for hard trial #4, I dont know what Morphiend was doing wrong but I can share my experience of hours doing it wrong and finally getting it.

If you have dan in the corner, it is very important to have space between the two of you for a better chance of him crumpling. I would try to stand as far away as possible but still be able to connect with the first crouching medium kick. and you have to release the focus attack the instant Sagat flashes.

Also you must dash after you successfully get Dan to crumple before doing the crouching medium punch.

The final thing that I wasn't doing properly, and I'm not sure if it was already mentioned in this thread, but after Dan crumples, and you dash forward and crouch, you have to wait to the last possible moment to throw your medium punch. I would always dash and instantly be trying to pull off a crouching punch. it either didn't connect or i'd do a tiger uppercut. after the dash, crouch, wait just a brief moment and throw the punch and immediately do the motion for tiger knee after the punch.

I hope that helps someone!
After reading this, finally managed to beat HT4, thanks!

[bytex]

*sigh* I always get stuck for ages on all the characters' Normal Trial 4. They're usually 4-5 links ending in a super/ultra. Having trouble with TU's from crouching position. I try using the df, d, df motion but mostly nothing happens. Then sometimes I luck out and get the entire sequence right and go to next trial.

It's like you feel inspired by some awesome youtube sagat video, hit trial mode and expect to beast your way through, then hit a dead end and want to smash the stick through your window..

[TBirdSF4]

*sigh* I always get stuck for ages on all the characters' Normal Trial 4. They're usually 4-5 links ending in a super/ultra. Having trouble with TU's from crouching position. I try using the df, d, df motion but mostly nothing happens. Then sometimes I luck out and get the entire sequence right and go to next trial.



Actually that is quite easy with Sagat: Remember you can crouch with df. Then simply tap: df, punch and the TU comes out :china:

If you do something like crouching medium punch into TU you could use: df, mp, df, hp.

[pt6776]

also having trouble w/ fake kick from TH1. Hit hk repeatedly, but still nothing. tried step kick w/ Focus cancel as well. Also related, when I focus cancel out of TU ( i think I do it too slow) the guy is already on the ground while i am still focusing. do you have to go right into the ultra/knee before you see the focus start?

[-L-]

Fake kicking from a jump-in is easier. Hold the controller via 'claw' grip, as you have to tap HK rather quickly (assuming you have a fight-pad). All in all, a lot of these moves are dependent on split-second input, and unless you practice timing them perfectly - to the frame - you'll never really have use for them, as they'd be too risky to attempt 'in the heat of battle.'

I'm not sure why Capcom didn't include the dash input after some of the focus attack stunners. It's weird, because, there's no way you can land the hits unless you dash. I mean why make it impossible when it's already 'that' hard?

[crucob]

TH4 is killing me right now, this is the second time i'm doin the trials on a new xbox and i just can't get the c.mp after the FADC (i don't have a problem nailing the crumple)... it just seems to whiff almost every time for me, even out of the corner... when i do connect it, i'm so surprised that either i don't follow up, or i accidentally do a low tiger shot/tiger genocide, lol (i'm using the analog stick on a reg. controller cuz the d-pad is terrible on xbox)

[No defence]

:tdown:Learn stick for the love of god:pray:

[No defence]

TH4 is killing me right now, this is the second time i'm doin the trials on a new xbox and i just can't get the c.mp after the FADC (i don't have a problem nailing the crumple)... it just seems to whiff almost every time for me, even out of the corner... when i do connect it, i'm so surprised that either i don't follow up, or i accidentally do a low tiger shot/tiger genocide, lol (i'm using the analog stick on a reg. controller cuz the d-pad is terrible on xbox)

GET OFF THE TRAINING WHEELS:coffee:

[No defence]

fake kick is a bitch

THX YOU REMINDED ME TO PRACTICE THAT MOVE..........:coffee:

[isurus]

Well I finally caved and started using Sagat, so I felt like doing his trials.

Fake HK is a dumb move, I don't see it being used practically in a game. But to do this I just used 2 fingers. Slapped one on the outside of my button really fast and followed up with my 2nd finger really fast. Basically touching the button at the same time but not quite. Kinda make a piece sign and slide it across at a downwards angle.

TH4 was a bitch, but the advice helped. Also I thought using a HK TS would be better for damage, but that makes this combo more difficult, so do a light one instead because it's slower. Stand back a bit and just do cr.mk xx lk.TS. FA immediately after you throw it but hold it for a split second to get the LVL2 FA. After that connects dash forward and crouch. Hit cr.mp xx tiger knee. Apparently if you crouch right away and hit MP, you'll whiff, so you want to delay your MP, from what I saw in the video.

TH5 is over 9,000% easier than TH4. Just jump straight up, hit HK, cr.lk, cr.mp + lp (for ease of use of next move) and then use mp+lp again for the EX DP then Ultra. The EX DP will probably hit less than full amount, but that makes it easier to ultra after ward. It's actually best not to do this in the corner. That's why I suggest just going up to Dan right at the start and doing what I just wrote until you get it.