Beating Runaway Akuma

[Mister K]

So here I am day one peacing out scrub Ken's left and right and approaching 2500 bp life is good.

Then I come across an Akuma who literally just jumps backwards with air fire balls, and then teleports?

The only dmg I put up was predicting a tele and Ex messiah kicking the guy. Close match but lost. This guy was horrible. So how do my felow Rufuses handle shit like this? Focus Dash in? (probably what I should of done in retrospect.)

Since I made this thread already I post my other weakness too, radom lariat spam? Best way to punish? I just try and tack on a cr. hp at end of spin.

And for a 3rd point feel free to add me

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Would love some rufus mirror matches, I am the only one Ive seen.

[MikeDowd]

So how do my felow Rufuses handle shit like this? Focus Dash in? (probably what I should of done in retrospect.)

Might try dashing then doing the snake strikes mid height as he comes down. I had a really hard time with akuma as well, unfortuantely I've only met one akuma online, probably because people haven't unlocked him yet.

[PuFF]

So here I am day one peacing out scrub Ken's left and right and approaching 2500 bp life is good.

Then I come across an Akuma who literally just jumps backwards with air fire balls, and then teleports?

The only dmg I put up was predicting a tele and Ex messiah kicking the guy. Close match but lost. This guy was horrible. So how do my felow Rufuses handle shit like this? Focus Dash in? (probably what I should of done in retrospect.)

Since I made this thread already I post my other weakness too, radom lariat spam? Best way to punish? I just try and tack on a cr. hp at end of spin.

And for a 3rd point feel free to add me

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Would love some rufus mirror matches, I am the only one Ive seen.

Focus Dash is the best bet. I too found it annoying (My bro plays Akuma that way) but Focus Dash and his DF+MK roll is good for closing the distance.

Lariat is not safe on block so just tap him when he throws it out after the spins are done. Cr.HP is good, Cr.HK is good up close since it sweeps and gives that all important knockdown.

[ParryAll]

Would love some rufus mirror matches, I am the only one Ive seen.

Here is what SRK SF4 forum looks like:

Ryu: 27 viewing
Ken: 12 views
Sagat: 15
16
17
19
22

Rufus: 2 viewing.

And you have no idea how goddamn happy this makes me. I was pissed because I thought my 3s main, Q, was too popular on SRK. And the difference here is not only is Rufus unpopular, he's fucking good. Good as in >the better half of the cast good. And he's a rushdown character. I swear to god Capcom made him just for me.

You will see me on much, much more week after next. I've had 2 good days with SF4. Yes, two. And I've still managed about 12 hours. Thing is college is a motherfucking bitch, and my girlfriend and I chill all weekend. But spring break I am all over SRK and XBox SF4. Hopefully I run into one of you guys and we can work on strategies together.

[Barky]

Here is what SRK SF4 forum looks like:

Ryu: 27 viewing
Ken: 12 views
Sagat: 15
16
17
19
22

Rufus: 2 viewing.

And you have no idea how goddamn happy this makes me. I was pissed because I thought my 3s main, Q, was too popular on SRK. And the difference here is not only is Rufus unpopular, he's fucking good. Good as in >the better half of the cast good. And he's a rushdown character. I swear to god Capcom made him just for me.

You will see me on much, much more week after next. I've had 2 good days with SF4. Yes, two. And I've still managed about 12 hours. Thing is college is a motherfucking bitch, and my girlfriend and I chill all weekend. But spring break I am all over SRK and XBox SF4. Hopefully I run into one of you guys and we can work on strategies together.


:rofl:

dude's a little too excited about the fat guy

[AcidicEnema]

Runaway Akuma:

- As mentioned, df+MK works for closing distance. Its actually the better option than focus dashing, because its safer. If the Akuma predicts your focus dash, he'll throw the air fireball a little later, then land> far Roundhose> crouch Jab> Hurricane> Uppercut as your dash is finishing.

- If you're within 2 character's screen distance, and you think he's going to air fireball, Ex Snake Strike the moment he leaves the ground. If you timed it right, you should hit him for big damage. At worst, you tack him for a few hits, trade with the air fireball, and knock him down, which isn't a bad thing either.

- If you think he's going to teleport (especially on wake up), try to fake him out into teleporting by doing something that looks offensive from 2-3 character spaces away (like a vertical jump dive kick or a crouch fierce), then punish him on his recovery as he recovers from his teleport (only works if he teleported towards you).

- I normally start the match up by building meter from full screen via Snake Strikes a little. Its possible to time your Snake strikes so that they jump over any potential air/ground fireballs. It frustrates runaway Akuma a bit, and builds up meter for Ex Messiah/Snake strike which you will need.

Re Lariats:

Stand Fierce at 1 character space beats Lariat for free. whether its the end of spin or not.

Ex Messiah at point blank beats Lariat for free too, so if you're close and you think he's going to lariant, just Ex Messiah. If you guessed wrong and he blocks the Ex Messiah, do the over head follow up if you think he's going to block/SPD/FAB/Ultra. If you think he's gonna focus attack/Lariat. delay a little then do the Flip kick follow up.

[AcidicEnema]

And the difference here is not only is Rufus unpopular, he's fucking good. Good as in >the better half of the cast good. And he's a rushdown character. I swear to god Capcom made him just for me.




Exacto-fucking mundo.

[kempobot]

And the difference here is not only is Rufus unpopular, he's fucking good. Good as in >the better half of the cast good. And he's a rushdown character. I swear to god Capcom made him just for me.


Yeah. Sometimes (most times, actually) I love Capcom. :bgrin:

[EpiclyFastGames]

Down fierce one he gets down. FA and galactic tornado absorbs fireballs ;)

[PuFF]

Down fierce one he gets down. FA and galactic tornado absorbs fireballs ;)

But tornado does not absorb air fireballs.

[EpiclyFastGames]

Try Down fierce.

What I do mostly is FA (Absorb air fireball of ground fireball, {For the red one you have to jump it{) Dash forward then do a galactic tornado to go close with him. Keep it close range.
Then go crazy and pressure him with falcon kicks.

If he teleports, just use down fierce. Hope that helps.

[PuFF]

Try Down fierce.

What I do mostly is FA (Absorb air fireball of ground fireball, {For the red one you have to jump it{) Dash forward then do a galactic tornado to go close with him. Keep it close range.
Then go crazy and pressure him with falcon kicks.

If he teleports, just use down fierce. Hope that helps.

Only problem I see with that is he is going to Shoryuken your face off if you pressure with Dive Kicks.

My best friend plays Akuma so I play the match up a lot.

[NAMMMMMM]

So here I am day one peacing out scrub Ken's left and right and approaching 2500 bp life is good.

Then I come across an Akuma who literally just jumps backwards with air fire balls, and then teleports?

The only dmg I put up was predicting a tele and Ex messiah kicking the guy. Close match but lost. This guy was horrible. So how do my felow Rufuses handle shit like this? Focus Dash in? (probably what I should of done in retrospect.)

Since I made this thread already I post my other weakness too, radom lariat spam? Best way to punish? I just try and tack on a cr. hp at end of spin.

And for a 3rd point feel free to add me

<---

Would love some rufus mirror matches, I am the only one Ive seen.


lol was his name diabloofire03?

yea dude is mad scrub. i beat him all 4x we played. literally will do nothing the entire match except air fireball teleport.

[MoxManiac]

Here is what SRK SF4 forum looks like:

Ryu: 27 viewing
Ken: 12 views
Sagat: 15
16
17
19
22

Rufus: 2 viewing.

And you have no idea how goddamn happy this makes me. I was pissed because I thought my 3s main, Q, was too popular on SRK. And the difference here is not only is Rufus unpopular, he's fucking good. Good as in >the better half of the cast good. And he's a rushdown character. I swear to god Capcom made him just for me.

You will see me on much, much more week after next. I've had 2 good days with SF4. Yes, two. And I've still managed about 12 hours. Thing is college is a motherfucking bitch, and my girlfriend and I chill all weekend. But spring break I am all over SRK and XBox SF4. Hopefully I run into one of you guys and we can work on strategies together.

The best part is that a lot of people really hate his design, even as far as being repulsed by him, which makes using him even more awesome!

[chicken]

I'm hoping Capcom releases an alt. costume for him that's actually a Yun sprite.

[buffi]

I'm hoping Capcom releases an alt. costume for him that's actually a Yun sprite.

Tornado would look really interesting.

[Xiii]

Would have been nice to get a costume better than a palette swap of his original costume. Maybe something biker, spiked knee and shoulder pads. Would make that Tornado look pretty messed up.

[BlitzMan_G]

in 2008 the number 1 in east canada toronto
is a honda/akuma player and ive developed a solid rufus vs akuma strat
im ranked number 2 for 2009 =) (not trying to be cocky) just trying to gain your trust to believe what im saying LOL but dont listen if you dont want to

ill do it step by step for scenarios

1. Note which kind of akuma player you are playing against

Turtles that air fireball

- Take your time getting close ( use the mk roll when he jumps and uses fireballs get in his face and try to predict his jumps so you can counter with a jumping rh > ex snakehands cause 2 of those will kill him)

Rushdown akuma players
( I find are harder because his forward RH with the 2 hits gives him good priority even if he misses and links to dmging combos) but if he loses a rushdown battle he can rely on teleport and here is where the 2nd part comes in

2. Teleporting gayness
(a lot of times you will find yourself playing a akuma that will fireball turtle to one side of screen then teleport to the other) and my advice to counter this is not much but all you can do is predict teleports and punish him hard when you do)
Most of the time if you trap a akuma in the wall he will teleport away Jump backwards and hit him with an ultra or a hp > hp tornado "whatever you feel is the most dmging"

3. MOST IMPORTANT

If you are playing an akuma that can set up good raging demon traps example fireball demon traps your best friend is your jumping RH that does 2 hits
because if 1 hit wiffs the other will knock him out of demon

4. Avoid all ground fireballs (this is where akuma will drain your life slowly but annoying as well, make appropriate dive kicks followed by the rufus roll to get in close

Thats all i can think of right now

Hopefully this will help the rest of you fatass'

[Mister K]

in 2008 the number 1 in east canada toronto
is a honda/akuma player and ive developed a solid rufus vs akuma strat
im ranked number 2 for 2009 =) (not trying to be cocky) just trying to gain your trust to believe what im saying LOL but dont listen if you dont want to

ill do it step by step for scenarios

1. Note which kind of akuma player you are playing against

Turtles that air fireball

- Take your time getting close ( use the mk roll when he jumps and uses fireballs get in his face and try to predict his jumps so you can counter with a jumping rh > ex snakehands cause 2 of those will kill him)

Rushdown akuma players
( I find are harder because his forward RH with the 2 hits gives him good priority even if he misses and links to dmging combos) but if he loses a rushdown battle he can rely on teleport and here is where the 2nd part comes in

2. Teleporting gayness
(a lot of times you will find yourself playing a akuma that will fireball turtle to one side of screen then teleport to the other) and my advice to counter this is not much but all you can do is predict teleports and punish him hard when you do)
Most of the time if you trap a akuma in the wall he will teleport away Jump backwards and hit him with an ultra or a hp > hp tornado "whatever you feel is the most dmging"

3. MOST IMPORTANT

If you are playing an akuma that can set up good raging demon traps example fireball demon traps your best friend is your jumping RH that does 2 hits
because if 1 hit wiffs the other will knock him out of demon

4. Avoid all ground fireballs (this is where akuma will drain your life slowly but annoying as well, make appropriate dive kicks followed by the rufus roll to get in close

Thats all i can think of right now

Hopefully this will help the rest of you fatass'

Thanks for help, hahah I think you're the one I played rufus v rufus and thought(mistakenly apprently) disconnected w/ me in ranked. Figures you are on SRK too haha, good rufus

I've pretty much figured out akuma and zangief now blanka is my current problem

[sir_arthur]

I have troubles with blanka too,played a few yesterday and it is hard, lost all of them like 3 lol , but i found some points, a blocked ball --> fierce tornado towards him, dash under the ball that goes over you and land a combo, most likely bait him to ball and punish, what im curious is if j. HK beats blanka jump ins because these ways i fought never left the ground lol.

[cozeny]

Yeah, I can take Zangiefs and Akumas but I'm getting murdered by Blankas. Cammys have been doing me in but I think that's cos I get impatient cos she's annoying.

[justingroton]

Zangief and Akuma is a pretty straight forward fight now, but Blanka, Cammy, and stupid E. Honda's give so much trouble.

[PuFF]

Zangief and Akuma is a pretty straight forward fight now, but Blanka, Cammy, and stupid E. Honda's give so much trouble.

Cr.MP destroys Honda. If he butt slams, cr.MP. If he jumps in, cr.MP.

Blanka is a pain though.

[kesh!]

I have yet to see another rufus on ranked/player

i'm at the 5k bp level, all I see is gief, sagat or e.honda

[cozeny]

Darksidephil has been using Rufus a bunch on Ranked on PSN and xbl, he has some vids up on his youtube if you're interested but there's not much by way of decent gameplay cos the standard of competition is so low. Weirdly, he seems to use dive kick > st. HP xx EX Messiah Kick as his BNB combo. : ?

He also uses Rufus' Super.

edit: sorry that sounded more retarded than I initially thought; of course, there must be heaps of Rufus players out there (2 million sold!) on Ranked (like me, except I mostly play friends and Player matches), he's just not that common. : )

[TempestFox]

j. HK xx ex Snake does soooooo much damage. I love fighting Akuma.

[Pasky]

Yea, I find Akuma and Sagat matches very reasonable to control using rufus. With Akuma, you can MK roll under air fireballs, dash under them, or simply wait a little bit before jumping so you jump over the fire ball. When he is cornered, begin punishing him or predict the teleport. Just don't cross up a good one as that Gouki SRK has good priority. I love when I get an Akuma that jumps at me, J.HK -> EX snake strike takes off a shit load of Akuma's life.

Sagat matches are controllable since Rufus can just EX messiah over low tigers, and you can punish high tigers with L. FP. This keeps sagat from trying his fireball game most of the time and sit there wait for you or actually coming for you. Not sure if L.MK roll goes under high tigers, think it does.

[karapalm]

haha I actually had so much trouble with this matchup that I specifically avoid picking rufus vs akuma, I don't know how soon I'll be picking the matchup in tournaments but this thread does help. Thanks for the comments guys.

[Pasky]

haha I actually had so much trouble with this matchup that I specifically avoid picking rufus vs akuma, I don't know how soon I'll be picking the matchup in tournaments but this thread does help. Thanks for the comments guys.

I'd rather fight 10x Akuma's than a good Guile or Blanka with Rufus. :razzy:

[cozeny]

I think Guile is an easy match for Rufus, no? Rush that fool down!

[BlacK StaR]

I've been playing Rufus ever since I realized he doesn't play how he looks.

I have yet to see any other Rufus characters besides myself.

It would be nice not to fight Ryu/Ken/Akuma all the time. I would be happy to lose to Blanka any day just to see a different type of character.

Also for some reason I don't really have the will to play ATM just because I can't find anyone else to fight besides those two guys.

Sagat is scrub friendly but people don't seem to realize that either...

[odin]

sooo many bad cammys out there
i bring my pail of worms to every match

[MoxManiac]

Darksidephil has been using Rufus a bunch on Ranked on PSN and xbl, he has some vids up on his youtube if you're interested but there's not much by way of decent gameplay cos the standard of competition is so low. Weirdly, he seems to use dive kick > st. HP xx EX Messiah Kick as his BNB combo. : ?

He also uses Rufus' Super.

edit: sorry that sounded more retarded than I initially thought; of course, there must be heaps of Rufus players out there (2 million sold!) on Ranked (like me, except I mostly play friends and Player matches), he's just not that common. : )

I noticed that too. I can't really figure out why he's doing that, since close s.HP xx HP tornado is so good.

[cozeny]

I faced (and peaced out) one of these today and it was a very frustrating match, more-so than the Dhalsim match. Anyway, found this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ78yS519sc&feature=related) after searching for example gameplay after the matches. Painful.

[Spin4u]

hey guys. need some pointers. rufus is my back up and blanka seems to be my main right now. anything i should do different against an akuma player?

me vs fubarduck 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ryLGRELqCw

me vs fubarduck 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuAIWk7_-Ao&feature=channel

[kesh!]

heh, i played fubar's akuma in sf4 (online, xbl) and did pretty well against him

i was just playing patiently and noting the fact that one of my hits did about 4 of his in damage, and leveraged that.

[cozeny]

In the second match you were dive kicking a lot. And consecutively. Rufus' dive kick is his best weapon but a clued up opponent should be able to predict those consecutive dive kicks and peace you out accordingly. I know it's addictive to want to consecutively dive kick because it feels high pressure and the rewards are so high, but I'd be careful. You should punish whiffed DPs with HP xx HP Tornado; or if you have meter & Ultra you could cr.LP/st.HP/cr.MK xx EX Messiah (+LK) > FADC > Ultra. Otherwise, you did pretty good! Sorry, I don't mean to be patronising, I'm as guilty of these errors myself and I'm as much talking to myself here as I am you, but if anything can help... you know.

At 4:07 in the second video I wonder if you'd done (+HK) from the EX Messiah Kick would you have bounced over the Raging Demon?

Good use of the roll to go under those air fireballs : )

[cozeny]

Fuck runaway Akuma!!!!

[Rick Fn Stalvey]

I'm hoping Capcom releases an alt. costume for him that's actually a Yun sprite.

Like Yun, but the same height as rufus.....just a giant Yun would be hilarious. Then watch all of SRK jump on the Rufus boat.

[Kritz]

j. HK xx ex Snake does soooooo much damage. I love fighting Akuma.

I abuse that so much, baiting is fun lol.

[DJMasters]

j. HK xx ex Snake does soooooo much damage. I love fighting Akuma.


i love hearing people yell out obscenities over xbl about all the damage they take after i catch em with this. hahaha

[caveman007]

I had a hard time with Akuma in a tournement held in kuwait, all what he was doing is back jumping and hadokens, but I beat him at the end. here is the vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAr8dDgBQ-U).
It was catch me if you can, mk df is his best weapon I think.

[thesecretblack]

Not sure if L.MK roll goes under high tigers, think it does.


Negative :wasted:

[superfly7627]

My main is Balrog but I love using Rufus. When people see how fast he can be everyone has the same reaction "How the **** does that fat man move so fast" lol. But i have trouble fighting against Sagat players. Sagat's range is crazy, with standing HK and Tiger knee i find it very difficult to get close. Dont have much trouble with Akuma though. Caveman nice comeback against akuma.

[timekillr]

Runaway Akuma is my worst matchup by far (worse than Blanka these days)..

Not only is it harder to win, but it's also so incredibly boring that I wanna doze off during those fights. I resort to just standing still and not letting them get to the corner and just jump over fireballs. That usually makes them angry.

Gief is my new fave matchup ever since I discovered that j. Snake Strike beats lariat every time. Not a lot of damage, but you can spam it against morons who will spam lariat near you. They get scared, never do it again. Then it's Invisible Hand (or EX) -> block then j. Snake Strike. Avoids the SPD as you're jumping, hits them a bit in the face. Now THAT also pisses them off.

The only thing they have left to get in close is jumping. Ooh, jumping! EX Snake Strike for 1/4 of your health, for free? Thanks. :)

Then they stop jumping and hide in the corner. Galactic Tornado chip! Aaah, fun times.