The Official Custom Arcade Sticks Thread

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by Vinnyman
thanks both you guys. now, what type of quick disconnects do i get and what kind crimper? thanx.

What kind of crimper? The kind you crimp on wire disconnect or connectors! :D j/k You'll find them next to the disconnects.

Get the .187 size female quick disconnect (insulated or non) Get many of them and avoid getting any mix or assorted packs of disconnects. Waste of money for finding only 8 of them or whatever. Hope you're using .22 size awg wire for those quick disconnect. The crimper, you can buy from happcontrols if you want, or radio shack. Just make sure they can crimp on .22-.16 disconnects or whatever else type connectors.

[Josh X]

Okay I have an update. The PCB from the Beat Pad does indeed hold solder. You just have to use a razor blade to scratch the black shit off of the spots. I don't have pics yet cuz the camera is on the fritz, but I hopefully will tonight at around 9 p.m.

[FMJaguar]

Originally posted by flyassnicca
I know this has been asked before, but I just came back from work and I'm really not in the mood to look through pages. But I was wondering if there was pictures of the differences between competition buttons and the buttosn the MAS use. I'm planning to get a SAV soon, so I just want to have my style of buttons most comfortable for me. Thanks in advance and sorry again if it's already been posted...I'm really tired...bare with me :)

if your not in the mood to look through pages, 1) don't post, 2) if you post, at least lie about the reason. But to answer your question, MAS uses HAPP parts, you can select the type of button in your stick, so your question isn't clear. Competition = convex, Ultimate = concave, as long as you refer to the button instead of who made the stick you'll be ok, AFAIK everyone uses both if you request it.

[Running Uppercut]

Can anyone recommend an adaptor that will allow me to play my MAS on my computer? I hate a PS MAS BTW...

[Rick Fn Stalvey]

Does it matter if I am using solid or braded wire when making a joystick??

I have always used braded but all I have is solid and I want to start the project tonight. It is solid for electrical components, from radio shack.

Also I am soldering directly the the gamepad board.

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by Shinma_sama
Does it matter if I am using solid or braded wire when making a joystick??

I have always used braded but all I have is solid and I want to start the project tonight. It is solid for electrical components, from radio shack.

Also I am soldering directly the the gamepad board.

No, it doesn't matter at all. The difference will be the bendability or the wire. If you look at the pic that I attached a few post up, you'll see that the wires I used to solder on that pad are solid.

[Rick Fn Stalvey]

Originally posted by RoTeNdO


No, it doesn't matter at all. The difference will be the bendability or the wire. If you look at the pic that I attached a few post up, you'll see that the wires I used to solder on that pad are solid.


RoTeNdO thanx for ur help man, this thread is awesome I rated as high as I could. Thanx again:cool:

[jago135]

SUCCESS!

i got that piece of shit open today. a screw was stripped under one of the rubber feet, so i ended up literally pulling themetal backing off of the joystick. that was tough. i think im going to use whats there to build a prototype to get a feel for building the case for a joystick, and then ill fix it up with new parts later, once i see more of the green, green goodness known as money.

[sixtymhz]

Originally posted by RoTeNdO


:confused: No spamming in these threads thank you. [sixtymhz!]

What was this?

By the way, sucks your going to Cali for a couple of months. When you get back, we'll do my stick and take pics, etc..

[supastar911]

Is it possible to build a two player joystick that works on Gamecube/PC/PS2/XBOX? What all would I need to do this? If not, then just PC/PS2.

[chrism1829]

have any of u played with a korean stick before?????

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by supastar911
Is it possible to build a two player joystick that works on Gamecube/PC/PS2/XBOX? What all would I need to do this? If not, then just PC/PS2.

Yes. Read this thread :D

[Rick Fn Stalvey]

I have a home grown DC Arcade Stick. I used an ascii fighterpad.

I just added the PS controller to my home grown and now when I go on to my DC my controller on the screen starts moving up and down and no other buttons r responsive.

Can anyone tell me whats going on or give advice for soldering 2 different controllers to the same stick.

[chrism1829]

hummm

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by Shinma_sama
I have a home grown DC Arcade Stick. I used an ascii fighterpad.

I just added the PS controller to my home grown and now when I go on to my DC my controller on the screen starts moving up and down and no other buttons r responsive.

Can anyone tell me whats going on or give advice for soldering 2 different controllers to the same stick.

I just posted this a few posts up. Please read through the thread first before asking questions. Anything else not answered here yet, just ask.

[ant one]

how did you wire it?

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by ant one
how did you wire it?

Okay, I'll post this again since you probably missed it, a few post up...

Originally posted by RoTeNdO
Vinnyman: Yes there is. You can just make it a standard PSX/PS2 stick and use a converter or wire up two separate pcbs (DC/PSX-PS2) and then run those through barrier strips. Here how:

1) Identify the button wires and direction wires for each

2) Have a set of barrier strips available ( A MUST!!)

3) Now match the buttons for each system i.e. (PSX- X = DC-A, circle=B, and etc...)

4) Do the same with the direction... PSX/DC up=up, down=down

5) Now that you have the wires matched together, twist them together, DC's button X with PSX's button square for example and then run them through one side of the barrier strip (white type) and tighten them down securely.

6) Do the same for the rest. Now the only thing you have to worry about is running one (1) single wire from each individual bypass of the other side of the barrier strip to the controls/buttons (of course with crimped on quick disconnects)

7) Test the connection use a multimeter or if you're feeling lucky, going into test mode and your game of choice for each system wired. *important, don't forget the ground!*

There you go, you now have two system ready stick with two wires coming out from the back to connect the the consoles.


Got it this time? :D

[Voodoo]

After (before) the links post on the first page...this thread needs a FAQ! :lol:

[ant one]

i was just wondering if he made any mistakes. if the picture on the tv moves when he plugs it in, then theres a problem

[afroconnexion]

I think I already know the answer to me question, but I'm a 100% newb when it comes to this stuff, so I'm going to check anyway.

I'll be ordering parts from Happ, but there are light-up buttons that I like better on Sanwa (http://www.sanwa-d.co.jp/) . It makes no difference and they'll all work the same, right?

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by afroconnexion
I think I already know the answer to me question, but I'm a 100% newb when it comes to this stuff, so I'm going to check anyway.

I'll be ordering parts from Happ, but there are light-up buttons that I like better on Sanwa (http://www.sanwa-d.co.jp/) . It makes no difference and they'll all work the same, right?

It should. Why not get those big ass light up buttons and use those? :lol: "The King Size Stick"! Too bad they don't also have big ass joysticks. :D

[Vinnyman]

what are barrier strips and how do i use them?:confused: do you have a pic of what they look like. i might go buy some psx controllers after work today.

[MrSimpson]

Ok peeps, im in a pickle. I have a fucked up mas stick. yay. So, ive decided to gut it and resoder all the wires to a Interact Dualshock 2. 2 questions. A- will this work? B- will the perfect 360 require some crazy ish 2 work? Its kinda crazy really, mi mas has fried 3 DC's, wont work on DC at all anymore, but works on PS fine lol. What a piece o shit. When it worked, it was sweet though. Anyones advice would be appreciated >)

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by Vinnyman
what are barrier strips and how do i use them?:confused: do you have a pic of what they look like. i might go buy some psx controllers after work today.

Read the thread. Barrier strips allows you connect wires from one source to another. Think of a T-railroad track if you will (draw a vertical line, then draw a few hashes horizontally down the v. line. Like the laces on a football. Anyway, that's sort of the small picture to give you an idea. Anyway, you have wires going from source A (pcb) to one end of once hash, then from the other side of the hash, you have another wire going to source B (microswitch) Thus, connecting the two source via the barrier strip. It's actually called a 6-way, 8-way, or 12-way barrier strips. Meaning that you can make 6-12 connections. There are two types of barrier strips you can buy from Radio Shack. One will be the black barrier strips that has phillip screw heads on top and it's basically used for fastening down/connecting wires with spade connectors crimped on. Though you don't need crimped spade connetors to fasten the wires down, you can just screw down the wires bare, but it's better and preffered to use crimped spaded wires. The other type are the white of barrier strips. They use regular flat tip screw driver screws and you don't need any type of crimped wires to connect them, you just need to insert the bare wires into the little tube on one end and screw down the screw on top fastening the wire and doing the same to the other side. The black barrier strip will run you more cuz you'll have to buy spade connecters and they are like $2 something for only a pack of 16, and you'll need (depending on how long the barrier strip) at least 16, 8 spade connects for one side and another 8 for the other side, then more for the next barrier strip. You're going to use more than just barrier strip and in the long run, the $ will add up as to how much you spent. That's why I started going to with the white barrier strips, cheaper, and I don't need anything else, just screw that shit down! You get it? Sorry for the long unneccessary explanation. Probably confused a lot of people:p

MrSimpson: How did you wired your mas to an Interact Dualshock? Do you mean it the other way around? I might work, if you're using an enclosure, but I have no idea what you're talking about, be more specific. Fried 3 DC's? You sure it didn't just fried the controller ports? It works fo rthe PS? You using an adaptor/converter or something for that? We need more details please. I have no idea what you're trying to do except resurrect your mas stick.

[afroconnexion]

Originally posted by afroconnexion
I think I already know the answer to me question, but I'm a 100% newb when it comes to this stuff, so I'm going to check anyway.

I'll be ordering parts from Happ, but there are light-up buttons that I like better on Sanwa (http://www.sanwa-d.co.jp/) . It makes no difference and they'll all work the same, right?

Someone asked for a place to buy Japanese arcade parts... a long time ago. The place in my post, Sanwa (http://www.sanwa-d.co.jp/) is a place to get that stuff. People from other sites have been raving about the customer service at this place. Though I haven't tried them yet, I'll trust in the words of others and deal with these guys for Japanese parts...in fact, they carry the illumi-buttons that I want.

BUT...the place is in Japan. So be forewarned. Shipping and handling is a bitch.

[MrSimpson]

Rotendo: I havent wired anything up yet, i was asking if it was possible >). It keeps assasinating my DC ports. I was going to take the circuit board out of my masstick, replace it with the board from an interact dualshock, and just solder all my ish back onto it. My question was, do i have to do anything special for the P360 to work? Or just wire it up normally? What do i do with the 5 volt wire coming from the p360?

[Vinnyman]

thanks rotendo. i had one more question regarding the ps2 joystick. i'm installing a p360 on my combo stick (DC and ps2). i already know where to get the 5v on the DC, but for the ps2? do i need a dual shock analog controller since i need 5v? my original plan was to use a regular psx pad but it has no analog. so my question would be, is it necessary to use a dual shock analog controller to get the 5v?

edit* i just finish reading though the thread and i read that on the ps pad, it's the red wire. is this true? can somebody confirm this please?:confused: thanks in advance.

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

As long as it has the rumble feature shit on it, you can connect the 5V wire using the existing one that was for the tiny motor. Use that. If you look for the post in the earlier pages here in this thread (yes it's in here) you'll find exactly what you're looking for. Someone had the same question regarding connect the p360 on a PSX/PS2 pad (5V wire)

[GKI]

It is to my regret to inform you that my DC Ultimate 2 Player J-Stick.......is dead:(, but no fear 2 one player joysticks came out of it and i should have pics of them very soon.:D

[J-ride]

Originally posted by RoTeNdO
As long as it has the rumble feature shit on it, you can connect the 5V wire using the existing one that was for the tiny motor. Use that. If you look for the post in the earlier pages here in this thread (yes it's in here) you'll find exactly what you're looking for. Someone had the same question regarding connect the p360 on a PSX/PS2 pad (5V wire)

That is how you do it? I was wondering? Oh btw why does that work? I would think that it would only send power when it was supposed to rumble? Also do p-360s work with converters? Thats all I need to know thanks.

[J-ride]

Originally posted by Vigorous

http://www.imgstudio.com/IMGphotos/2002/November/22/stamp_original/1122200211591641.jpg

http://www.imgstudio.com/IMGphotos/2002/November/22/stamp_original/1122200211591755.jpg

My god, you must be a big guy, what are you 6 ft 7? Mine is slightly bigger than a Mas and it fits in my lap perfectly...:confused: I hope I never run into you on a bad day. Nice sticks though, I like to have the stick in my lap or capable of fitting on a coffe table or desk, but thats just me.

[MrSimpson]

Originally posted by J-ride


That is how you do it? I was wondering? Oh btw why does that work? I would think that it would only send power when it was supposed to rumble? Also do p-360s work with converters? Thats all I need to know thanks.


If you mean like DC 2 PS converters, then yes.

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by J-ride


That is how you do it? I was wondering? Oh btw why does that work? I would think that it would only send power when it was supposed to rumble? Also do p-360s work with converters? Thats all I need to know thanks.

Yes.
It works because it's a powe source and it's already a wired soldered to where you WOULD have soldered the 5V one running from the p360.
No. The PSX/PS2 game being played is what makes the rumble feature work. Whater action in the game you were playing will send the signal to the controller i.e. getting hit, firing a pistol and etc... The power source is alway current, it doesn't shut off just like a remote control, once you push that button in, a signal is sent. If you want to learn more about how electrical shit works, then go to www.howstuffworks.com This is a great site and there is also an article on how video game systems work.
With converter? You mean if it's a PSX/PS2 p360 stick, would it work on a DC using a converter? If so, then yes. Just like what MrSimpson wrote.

[ant one]

you can also solder to where the plug from the ps meets the board... look for the red wire usually. Its pin 5 on ps one dual shocks. I find thats easier

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by ant one
you can also solder to where the plug from the ps meets the board... look for the red wire usually. Its pin 5 on ps one dual shocks. I find thats easier thanks dood.
ONE more question..... sorry for asking soo many questions...... but is it safe to have 2 joysticks plugged in with p360s running at the same time for both DC and ps2 respectively?:confused: thanx in advance.

[J-ride]

Okay thanks Rotendo, Ive built three sticks now, I am still learning though, and there is still some things I dont know! haha Oh well, thanks for all your help, I want to build some p-360's this summer :). I got the pictures of my stick and Im going to scan them this weekend for sure.

[ant one]

I made a few sticks with p 360. My friend and I play on dc with 2 p360s and its fine. I wouldnt plug in a vmu though. That would be bad. P360s are awesome and they arent as fussy as everyone says. My joint came undone while i was playing and the wire for the power source was just touching the lead for up. All that happened was when I pressed anything it would go up. I resoldered it and it worked fine.
ao
Ill post some photos of my wiring and such when i get them. Hopefully that will help.

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by ant one
I made a few sticks with p 360. My friend and I play on dc with 2 p360s and its fine. I wouldnt plug in a vmu though. That would be bad. P360s are awesome and they arent as fussy as everyone says. My joint came undone while i was playing and the wire for the power source was just touching the lead for up. All that happened was when I pressed anything it would go up. I resoldered it and it worked fine.
ao
Ill post some photos of my wiring and such when i get them. Hopefully that will help.
thanks for your help......preciate it.

[supastar911]

Can anyone with a X-arcade controller take a picture of the part that connects to the back of the computer? I wanna make sure that it will be able to connect into my computer before I buy it. thanks

[J-ride]

I think that the X-arcade is USB. I could be wrong though. Anyone have a homesite for total control and other converters? I want to see what kind of converters there are. Ive found some on Buyrite I wanted to know if there is a PS-> Saturn converter?

[S3nTiN3L]

ok ive been going at it building a stick for a wile now. due to fucked up controlls ive been held back. anyways today i bought a quantum fighterspad controller and to my suprise its not what i expected. anyways if anyone has some site or has hooked one of these before please post your info (i do NOT want to buy another controller) ill post my stick once its done...i think youl enjoy it.

[ant one]

i dont think the quantum works. Mad catz work the best

[Onslaught]

i suck cuck

[Mogwai]

After multiple delays, CvS2 for xblive finally got a street date cc said they would stick to. So after waiting to see if one of you more skilled builders would cough up a setup for Live (after all, I wanna to trash talk AND back it up) I decided Id give it a go. Bear in mind, im _not_ a carpenter..

The toughest part was dealing w the 3/4" mdf I used for the box, and slotting/dremeling it down to accept the xblive communicator module. After that was done, the rest was relatively simple. I stuck with the first party M$ pad, as that's one of the only that supports xblive. Unfortunately for me (us) the pcb points are really tiny, luckily some prior experience installing mods helped get me by.. flux is your friend ppl.

Id be curious if anyone has found a suitable 5v lead (possibly used for the rumble motors) that we could pull for a p360. Id like to make that upgrade sometime down the road, as for now Im using a competition stick w the ultimate pb's. Im an old skool sf2 junky, and wanted that ghetto look/feel.. I know I know, it could use some artwork, but hey it works!

Onto the pics :

http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/mm_street.JPG
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/mm_street2.JPG
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_test_fit.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_test_fit2.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/test_fit2.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/wiring_inside.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_wiring.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/wiring_schem_close.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/button_test.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/almost_done.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/yay.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/yay_wide.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/live_works.jpg


Now I just gotta wait for cc to get off their arse and ship the f'n game.. see you all online on the 11th, btw my "GamerTag (c)" is Mog.

ez.

[Vigorous]

Originally posted by J-ride


My god, you must be a big guy, what are you 6 ft 7? Mine is slightly bigger than a Mas and it fits in my lap perfectly...:confused: I hope I never run into you on a bad day. Nice sticks though, I like to have the stick in my lap or capable of fitting on a coffe table or desk, but thats just me.

:lol: :lol:
Nah man. I just like the controls at regular height/arcade-height. Playing low on the Mas stick is too uncomfortable for me, and throws me off my game since I'm thinking about it too much. But trust me, they're perfect size for anyone sitting down.

[RANDoM_MAI]

Originally posted by Mogwai
After multiple delays, CvS2 for xblive finally got a street date cc said they would stick to. So after waiting to see if one of you more skilled builders would cough up a setup for Live (after all, I wanna to trash talk AND back it up) I decided Id give it a go. Bear in mind, im _not_ a carpenter..

The toughest part was dealing w the 3/4" mdf I used for the box, and slotting/dremeling it down to accept the xblive communicator module. After that was done, the rest was relatively simple. I stuck with the first party M$ pad, as that's one of the only that supports xblive. Unfortunately for me (us) the pcb points are really tiny, luckily some prior experience installing mods helped get me by.. flux is your friend ppl.

Id be curious if anyone has found a suitable 5v lead (possibly used for the rumble motors) that we could pull for a p360. Id like to make that upgrade sometime down the road, as for now Im using a competition stick w the ultimate pb's. Im an old skool sf2 junky, and wanted that ghetto look/feel.. I know I know, it could use some artwork, but hey it works!

Onto the pics :

http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/mm_street.JPG
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/mm_street2.JPG
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_test_fit.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_test_fit2.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/test_fit2.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/wiring_inside.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_wiring.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/wiring_schem_close.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/button_test.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/almost_done.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/yay.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/yay_wide.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/live_works.jpg


Now I just gotta wait for cc to get off their arse and ship the f'n game.. see you all online on the 11th, btw my "GamerTag (c)" is Mog.

ez.
so dude?? you made a xbox stick???

it works perfect??

can you that a pic of the soldering points so i can make one.

~RaNDoM

[RoboGem]

Can you recommend the best site out of all of them mentioned for a total NOOB when it comes to making Joysticks. My friend *cough* is very interested.

[qwazy]

this is probably a bit late, but anyone that wants a cover for their stick ( the pictures and whatnot ), i'll gladly make one. just tell me what dimensions ( in terms of inches ) you want, any particular character or whatever and i'll make it for you. if you want one, post here or just PM me.

[Needle Knife]

Originally posted by RoboGem
Can you recommend the best site out of all of them mentioned for a total NOOB when it comes to making Joysticks. My friend *cough* is very interested.

Take a look at t he very beginning of this site. It has great references to sites that can help you. The cornerstone of joystick making IMO is arcadecontrols.com.

[Needle Knife]

Originally posted by Mogwai
After multiple delays, CvS2 for xblive finally got a street date cc said they would stick to. So after waiting to see if one of you more skilled builders would cough up a setup for Live (after all, I wanna to trash talk AND back it up) I decided Id give it a go. Bear in mind, im _not_ a carpenter..

The toughest part was dealing w the 3/4" mdf I used for the box, and slotting/dremeling it down to accept the xblive communicator module. After that was done, the rest was relatively simple. I stuck with the first party M$ pad, as that's one of the only that supports xblive. Unfortunately for me (us) the pcb points are really tiny, luckily some prior experience installing mods helped get me by.. flux is your friend ppl.

Id be curious if anyone has found a suitable 5v lead (possibly used for the rumble motors) that we could pull for a p360. Id like to make that upgrade sometime down the road, as for now Im using a competition stick w the ultimate pb's. Im an old skool sf2 junky, and wanted that ghetto look/feel.. I know I know, it could use some artwork, but hey it works!

Onto the pics :

http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/mm_street.JPG
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/mm_street2.JPG
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_test_fit.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_test_fit2.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/test_fit2.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/wiring_inside.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_wiring.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/wiring_schem_close.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/button_test.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/almost_done.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/yay.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/yay_wide.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/live_works.jpg


Now I just gotta wait for cc to get off their arse and ship the f'n game.. see you all online on the 11th, btw my "GamerTag (c)" is Mog.

ez.

WOW!!!!:eek:

I got a Madcatz joypad for this purpose as it was rumored that the first party controller had contact points that were too small. When I saw your pics, I had to agree. Your soldering skills are pretty impressive! Just a couple of questions:

1. Did you have to solder to those points or could you have taken that black plastic stuff off of the contacts and just used those exposed points for the joypad portion?

2. I was reported that the first party joypad was analog also in another thread on another site (arcadecontrols.com). The beauty of the Madcatz was that the pad was digital and NOT analog. I am supposing that it is not true, eh?

3. If you can, if you can post another picture of your solder points so that we might be able to emulate your greatness. Thanks in advance!

I am still goingto go for the Madcatz stick. I just got it and will try it out on LIVE! first before dismantling it. I am also waiting for 360s to come in. I am going to try to connect the motor wires for my 5V. Hopefully it works and doesn't fry my system.;)

I think it is safeto say that your post helped many on this thread who are gearing up for LIVE! matches!

[Buddhistic]

Originally posted by Mogwai
After multiple delays, CvS2 for xblive finally got a street date cc said they would stick to. So after waiting to see if one of you more skilled builders would cough up a setup for Live (after all, I wanna to trash talk AND back it up) I decided Id give it a go. Bear in mind, im _not_ a carpenter..

The toughest part was dealing w the 3/4" mdf I used for the box, and slotting/dremeling it down to accept the xblive communicator module. After that was done, the rest was relatively simple. I stuck with the first party M$ pad, as that's one of the only that supports xblive. Unfortunately for me (us) the pcb points are really tiny, luckily some prior experience installing mods helped get me by.. flux is your friend ppl.

Id be curious if anyone has found a suitable 5v lead (possibly used for the rumble motors) that we could pull for a p360. Id like to make that upgrade sometime down the road, as for now Im using a competition stick w the ultimate pb's. Im an old skool sf2 junky, and wanted that ghetto look/feel.. I know I know, it could use some artwork, but hey it works!

Onto the pics :

http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/mm_street.JPG
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/mm_street2.JPG
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_test_fit.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_test_fit2.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/test_fit2.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/wiring_inside.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/pcb_wiring.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/wiring_schem_close.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/button_test.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/almost_done.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/yay.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/yay_wide.jpg
http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/live_works.jpg


Now I just gotta wait for cc to get off their arse and ship the f'n game.. see you all online on the 11th, btw my "GamerTag (c)" is Mog.

ez.

like people said, i wanna see the soldering points as well... and equipment used, EXACTLY! NICE SHIT DAWG! and i like the 1 player 2 player buttons, where'd you buy those? censible? anyways GOOD FUCKIN JOB! i-n-v-u! lol nice carpentry too! i wish my box was as FLUSH like 2001 as yours was.. VERY clean... simple yet strong! :eek:

[ant one]

let me know what you guys think. ill post the wiring when i get the photos
ao

[qwazy]

ah, that's nice. how does it play?

[ant one]

It plays amazingly. Better than any arcade ive been at.
AO

[frog213]

calling P-360 gurus

Is there a difference between WICO P360s and HAPP P360s?

I thought that they were manufactured by P360, and ALL WICO and HAPP did was distribute them? so my argument to that is: I was in chicago for MW challenge at Nickel City and they had (WICO?)P360s on 3S and the stick/bat was thin like a ultimate/competition, spring was tight, had less of a movement radius then ........
the (HAPP?)P360s on this other cab, the stick/bat was fat like a super, a little looser spring, more movement radius:wtf:?????????

can someone please explain?

thanks

[Buddhistic]

Originally posted by ant one
let me know what you guys think. ill post the wiring when i get the photos
ao

dude, it looks cool, but im confused when it comes to the use of the plexi... you put it on the inside panel as well?

more pics dawg!

[J-ride]

I looked around this site and couldnt find it so this seemed the logical place to go, my first stick (which had some scrubby wiring btw), had a wire come loose and it blew my DC ports. So I was wondering if anyone knew wich resistor I was supposed to replace to fix that? Is it the resistor labeled F1? Thats what another site said, but they said that replacing that with a 10 ohm resistor would make it do funny things when you played anything that had rumble... Any suggestions?

[ant one]

here is another pic

[m3talslug]

Well if you buy the ENTIRE P360 Kit, the joystick will look like the Ultimate/competition joystick except that the metal shaft has these ridges in them.

Some arcade owners buy the CONVERSION kits (cheaper) which may explain why the joystick still looks like the super or whatever existing joystick they decided to convert.

Originally posted by frog213
calling P-360 gurus

Is there a difference between WICO P360s and HAPP P360s?

I thought that they were manufactured by P360, and ALL WICO and HAPP did was distribute them? so my argument to that is: I was in chicago for MW challenge at Nickel City and they had (WICO?)P360s on 3S and the stick/bat was thin like a ultimate/competition, spring was tight, had less of a movement radius then ........
the (HAPP?)P360s on this other cab, the stick/bat was fat like a super, a little looser spring, more movement radius:wtf:?????????

can someone please explain?

thanks

[YieArKungFu]

Next time someone decides to murder an Xbox controller if you could snap a jpeg and circle the soldier points I'm sure it would help us all out...
I will be going through this soon and I'd like to get it right the first time...

[sefskillz]

Thanks to whoever gave out the picture with the DC enforcer solder points, I'm about to get started on it right now... picked one up at eb for 5.99

[J-ride]

Can someone give me a rating on liksang.com? Are they a reliable site to buy from? How long should an order from them take?

[sefskillz]

lik-sang is good, i ordered a dc mod chip from them and it took about a week

[Nile]

Guys I need HELP!!! Jjust now I was playing with my sav which I've had for about 3 months, and I heard a ping sound. It sounded like a spring and then next thing I know my 360 pulls right out of the box!!!!It's sitting on the floor in 3 pieces. What can I do to fix it. I know nothing about working on sticks, and I dont want to fuck up my $150 stick!

[SominexII]

Originally posted by Nile
Guys I need HELP!!! Jjust now I was playing with my sav which I've had for about 3 months, and I heard a ping sound. It sounded like a spring and then next thing I know my 360 pulls right out of the box!!!!It's sitting on the floor in 3 pieces. What can I do to fix it. I know nothing about working on sticks, and I dont want to fuck up my $150 stick!

Sounds like the c-clip at the bottom of the stick shaft popped off, releasing your stick shaft from the Perfect 360 base. If you can't find that c-clip, you'll have to go to the hardware store or call Happ to see where you can get a replacement.

[Mogwai]

Thanks for all the positive responses about my stick for Live!

It's certainly not the prettiest stick around, but this isnt the prom after all.

In regards to the questions about my wiring schematic, I went ahead and photoshopped a quick key for those who wish to use the original first party xb pad (other pads will have a diff pcb design of course).

Originally posted by Needle Knife

1. Did you have to solder to those points or could you have taken that black plastic stuff off of the contacts and just used those exposed points for the joypad portion?

I just removed that material and scraped away the coating on each point. When I had it good and clean, I fixed the proper lead (you dont want to move it post solder) and went slowly using plenty of flux. Refer to cdvision's soldering guide, great tips for anyone learning (me included.)
Originally posted by Needle Knife

2. I was reported that the first party joypad was analog also in another thread on another site (arcadecontrols.com). The beauty of the Madcatz was that the pad was digital and NOT analog. I am supposing that it is not true, eh?

Not true, as it works just fine. The triggers are analog though, Im sure a digital hack could be worked out by someone.
Originally posted by Needle Knife

3. If you can, if you can post another picture of your solder points so that we might be able to emulate your greatness. Thanks in advance!

I am still goingto go for the Madcatz stick. I just got it and will try it out on LIVE! first before dismantling it. I am also waiting for 360s to come in. I am going to try to connect the motor wires for my 5V. Hopefully it works and doesn't fry my system.;)


Hardly greatness, just patience.. there are much nicer sticks (as this forum is proof of) I just needed something before CvS Live launched. In regards to the wiring, see the jpg I made below.

If anyone else gets a p360 working on this (or that madcatz) pad, Id love to hear about it! Last I checked those rumble motors did run off a 5v lead, so it should be a simple addition.

Cheers, and keep the pics coming..

http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/xb_schematic.jpg

Let me know if you guys want any other info, the rest is fairly straight forward, and careful on those damn cheap pcb points! They lift off sooooo easily.

[Mogwai]

Anyone know about adapting from my xb controller (male) to my ps2?

Ive seen plenty that do the opposite, but I havent seen any that do this. Is it possible to adapt from psx to usb (which exist) and then hack my xb to usb??

[Buddhistic]

Originally posted by ant one
here is another pic

show more pics of the outside, sides n all!

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by frog213
calling P-360 gurus

Is there a difference between WICO P360s and HAPP P360s?

I thought that they were manufactured by P360, and ALL WICO and HAPP did was distribute them? so my argument to that is: I was in chicago for MW challenge at Nickel City and they had (WICO?)P360s on 3S and the stick/bat was thin like a ultimate/competition, spring was tight, had less of a movement radius then ........
the (HAPP?)P360s on this other cab, the stick/bat was fat like a super, a little looser spring, more movement radius:wtf:?????????

can someone please explain?

thanks
speaking of which, the P360s i ordered were super, but i wanted ultimate joysticks instead. is it possible for me to replace the bat and install a hard spring?

[chrism1829]

can u wire a 360 stick by using the replacing parts of a switched joytick....meaning i have switches in my stick now..and can i change to a 360 without serious changes????or is it the same

[ant one]

look for a red wire that attaches to the pcb from the cord. thats usually a 5v. if I rent an xbox soon to test it all out, ill let you know....
ao

[sefskillz]

I'm currently working with the Enforcer stick for dreamcast. I started off by taking off the joystick and the other stuff attached, then I went back and attached my own wires to the points. The problem I am having is that my up and right directions won't work. My down, left and buttons do work however. Down and left use ground 2 and up and right supposedly use ground1, however they aren't working with ground1 or 2.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/sefskillz/enforcerdcsolder.jpg

the joystick had a black wire that was running out of it, which I'm assuming was a ground wire, and into (note: not in the same spot as in the picture, was in the lower left, don't know what patsch is doing there) that small pcb board on the left. Is this board sending a ground out for just the joystick? If so that may explain why I can't use my current grounds to get up and right to operate correctly. Any suggestions would be helpful at this point :)

[Needle Knife]

Thanks for the picture of the original XBOX controller. If the Madcatz doesn't work, at least we all have something to work off of!:D I'd quote you on your reponses though I am sure everyone is working off of your stuff! I'll see you on LIVE! My gamertag is Needle Knife.

Thanks again for the picture of the solder points! Professional!

[patsh]

For the Enforcer board, i ended up using two more grounds. Sorry to be confusing. I didn't end up using the black wire that was connected to the bottom of the stick.
I have posted a new picture with the directional grounds.

http://www.geocities.com/rhcww/Enforcer-board-detail.gif

[Rick Fn Stalvey]

Originally posted by Mogwai
Thanks for all the positive responses about my stick for Live!


Let me know if you guys want any other info, the rest is fairly straight forward, and careful on those damn cheap pcb points! They lift off sooooo easily.

Did u solder to those tiny lil points???

[sefskillz]

Originally posted by patsh
For the Enforcer board, i ended up using two more grounds. Sorry to be confusing. I didn't end up using the black wire that was connected to the bottom of the stick.
I have posted a new picture with the directional grounds.

http://www.geocities.com/rhcww/Enforcer-board-detail.gif

Thanks a lot patsh, I got it up and going now :D

[SominexII]

Originally posted by chrism1829
can u wire a 360 stick by using the replacing parts of a switched joytick....meaning i have switches in my stick now..and can i change to a 360 without serious changes????or is it the same

Wico makes a microswitch based joystick conversion kit to 360 -- here

http://www.wicothesource.com/391.html

[Mogwai]

Originally posted by Shinma_sama


Did u solder to those tiny lil points???

Yes, albeit somewhat crappily. Least the tape and wire wraps should keep any of the leads from coming up.

Theyre actually the same size as the points needed for the old xb mods.. not too bad.
Def practice on something of similar size before you trash the 30$ pcb.

You can see where I lifted a trace all the way off the board (the taped up wire) I bored out a tiny bit of the hole in the pcb jammed a nicely cut lead down in there, and it works for now :o

http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/oops.JPG

Luckily it was the seldom used "Back" button (wtf was M$ thinking?) so if it does come up later, I can just tape it back down, or live without it.

Anyone have a p360 around to test the 5v ??

8 days left...... till i get my arse handed to me on Live by most of you hardcore gimps :D

[YieArKungFu]

http://www.turnstylestudios.com/cvs/xb_schematic.jpg
I don't wanna say gay or nothing but I love you dude, oh and unicorns kick ass...
PS couldn't you also scrape away that carbon crap and soldier directly onto the contact points, that would make it a lot easier (thats what I did with my DC conversion) but you usually have to be careful you don't pull the whole contact out.

[Seta]

I don't have enough for a mas stick or a x arcade so would you guys recommend making a custom stick? I don't really want to spend more than $50.

[YieArKungFu]

fuck a mas stick custom is the way to go
What system?

[Seta]

PS2. How much do you think it'll cost?

[Buddhistic]

im jockin the corners, whered you get the rubber sides to put on the wood? that shit is like the MAS shit, and how do you apply that?

[Tigerstile]

I'm interested in making one for Xbox.I'm not sure how but I would like to include slots for the meory card and XBL communicator.Right now I have a PS2 Mas with a controller conerter to use for CVS2 EO when it goes live next week.If anybody has any info that could help me get started,I would appreciate it.

[Trance Man]

Can u wire a p360 with a Madcatz pad??? I bought a Madcatz and I should be gettin' my p360 soon, so if n-e has a site or advise on directionz it would be much appreciated.:)

How much is lexan paper??? Is it hard to apply to the wood???

[Vinnyman]

QUESTION: for the DC pad, is it always the BLUE wire on a Madcatz regardless of the position?

[ant one]

i posted the info for p360 for dc earlier in this thread... like page 5 or something

[BaBaBooey]

does it matter what wire i use for making a stick out of a ps2 pad. one place says to use solid and another says to use stranded. i have solid, should i use stranted instead?

oh...how do you remove a quick disconnect? i stuck one on the ground of the cherry switch to test to see if it fit...now i can't get it off

[xMo0xMo0x]

I recently attempted to convert my mas sticks from competition to 360s. I read about the +5v coming from the blue wire and i got the joysticks to work briefly but now my dreamcast doesn't even detect controllers. Can I fix this? How do I prevent this from happening again?

Thnx

[kcxj]

Originally posted by xMo0xMo0x
I recently attempted to convert my mas sticks from competition to 360s. I read about the +5v coming from the blue wire and i got the joysticks to work briefly but now my dreamcast doesn't even detect controllers. Can I fix this? How do I prevent this from happening again?

That's bad news. Your controller ports are dead. It happens when you touch the power wire for the 360 to ANY metal part aside from the correct place you're suppose to put it while the stick is still plugged in. Don't feel bad... I myself have fried two DCs the same way already putting muthaf---ing savsticks together.

There is a way to fix it. But I have no idea how. Has something to do with those little battery thingies on the pcb board for the DC controller ports though. It's ghetto walmart buy and switch time if you ask me :lol:.

[VincentDelpino]

Originally posted by YieArKungFu

Srape away that carbon crap and soldier directly onto the contact points, that would make it a lot easier (thats what I did with my DC conversion) but you usually have to be careful you don't pull the whole contact out.

OH YES YOU CAN! its very nice copper under those babys. just did that myself and anyone could solder those!

[Rick Fn Stalvey]

What should I use to scrap the carbon of the contats???

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by xMo0xMo0x
I recently attempted to convert my mas sticks from competition to 360s. I read about the +5v coming from the blue wire and i got the joysticks to work briefly but now my dreamcast doesn't even detect controllers. Can I fix this? How do I prevent this from happening again?

Thnx
dood, are you sure you used the right port....now i'm kinda reluctant to try it. you just blew out the resistor and can be easily replaced. to fix the problem, simply open up your DC and take the controller port out. then if you look closely, you will see a little resistor (blue color). snap that mofo off and replace it with another....preferably a more resistant one. take it to your nearest electronic store and ask around for an F5 10ohm resistor, solder that one on there and voila, a working DC controller port.

ant one: that's exactly what i'm talking about....not sure if it's the blue wire for ALL matcatz. i was under the impression that it's ALWAYS the second to the last wire down, regardless of the color.....because on one MC controller, the blue wire is PIN 2, but on the other MC controller, the wire on PIN 2 is black. does it matter?

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by kcxj

I myself have fried two DCs the same way already putting muthaf---ing savsticks together.


did you ever get your 360s to work on your SAV sticks anyway? if so, howso after frying your ports 2 times.:bluu:

[ant one]

Your best bet would be to use a multimeter to test. Place one contact on the place you think the 5v is and another on the common ground. I would assume its the same for all pads, but if its a model i havent seen i dont know.Maybe they got the wire colour mixed up in the manufacturing. I know that the dual shocks for psx and ps one are totally different... what kind of mad catz did you get? Also i have a p360 and my wiring came loose while my dc was on. The 5v joint disconnected, and nothing happened. No blown ports.

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by ant one
Your best bet would be to use a multimeter to test. Place one contact on the place you think the 5v is and another on the common ground. I would assume its the same for all pads, but if its a model i havent seen i dont know.Maybe they got the wire colour mixed up in the manufacturing. I know that the dual shocks for psx and ps one are totally different... what kind of mad catz did you get? Also i have a p360 and my wiring came loose while my dc was on. The 5v joint disconnected, and nothing happened. No blown ports.
i have the Dreampad for DC. and regarding the PS2, i have the PS2 (yes not one :D) dual force 2 or dual force 2 PRO....can't remember which one..but i think it's the DF 2. any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Ryu_311Funk]

Welll i recently got GGXX but no PSX2 connection for my MAS :( I was wondering if any of you knew how to add a PS2 connection to a MAS??

[Seta]

What button layout do you guys recommend?

[Voodoo]

Originally posted by Seta
What button layout do you guys recommend?
On my MAME cab, I've got a normal 6 button, with a 7th "snk" button set below the kicks. Although you can't really do with for a DC stick, it would be pretty sweet to have. :D

Unless you're looking for layouts or some such. Most people just use something that looks like this: control layout (http://home.earthlink.net/~seanhat/arcade/CPtemplates1.jpg)

[kcxj]

Originally posted by Vinnyman

did you ever get your 360s to work on your SAV sticks anyway? if so, howso after frying your ports 2 times.:bluu:

You = smarter than I am

A hundred thanks for telling me which resistors to replace and so on in order to fix my DCs. Most likely saved me at lot of $$.

Pretty much every single stick I've wired and put together has 360s now. Everything I've learned about electronics however has unfortunately been picked up only through trial and error (ie. what little common sense I can use).. :bluu:

Don't ask me how I messed up my DC's in the first place. It was pure idiocy at it's finest. I'm good now though... I hope...

[VincentDelpino]

Originally posted by Shinma_sama
What should I use to scrap the carbon of the contats???
an exacto knife is best but a screwdriver will do

[RANDoM_MAI]

ok i'm one of those people that like to follow things step by step.

so when i made my custom sticks i use the psx 1000 pad on cd vision page.

i was wondering if there is any adapter that lets you use this psx 1000 pad for xbox? the only playstation to xbox converters i have seen are for dual shock ps controllers only. has anyone tried the magic box one? does that work with any ps controller, or dc for that matter.

~RaNDoM

[LBt1st]

I just wanted to make this little announcement:


I will have a tutorial for the MadCatz xbox gamepad online this weekend. This pad is only $19 and should be easy to find. I have it appart in front of me as I type this and from the looks of it this will be an easy hack.

The tutorial will be at:
http://members.cox.net/joysticks/

-LBt1st

[J-ride]

{Random_MAI} on liksang and buyrite there is a converter that works for PSone and PS2 and works for joysticks, steering wheels ect.

[splits]

My stick(next to agetec for size reference).

[Tigerstile]

Splits: Very nice stick yo.I wish I has the tools to build me a stick.

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by BaBaBooey
does it matter what wire i use for making a stick out of a ps2 pad. one place says to use solid and another says to use stranded. i have solid, should i use stranted instead?

oh...how do you remove a quick disconnect? i stuck one on the ground of the cherry switch to test to see if it fit...now i can't get it off

It's all preferance IMO. I have used both and haven't had a problem with either of the type. You can remove the quick disconnect by 'wiggling' that shit loose, don't try to He-Man that shit out or you'll pull the wire off the quick disconnect. It happens to me a lot. That or use a screwdriver to ply it off (lift if off)


This is my first time that I am able to get online here in Cali. Wow, this thread hasn't been dead for a minute last I posted! This is what I wanted, people asking question, people answering, helping each other out and shit. Fuck! I'm learing some new shit by reading about these transistors shit and all. Keep this thread alive with great info and feed back. Thanks.

oh yeah, and splits: Nice ass stick you got there. Agetech replica. :D

[PSX]

Anyone here can show me a place with diagrams to wire a P360 to xbox? I want to add a perfect 360 to xbox. Mogwai told me that u can run it off the 5 volt lead but my friend doing my stick wanted to know if there were better instructions or pics online.

[LBt1st]

I'm working on a site right now for wiring a MatCatz gamepad for xbox. I've found a constand 5V connection so using a 360 shouldn't be a problem. I don't have a 360 though so I can't confirm it but I'm pretty sure it'll work.

I'll be posting here tonight or early tomorrow when the site's online.

-LBt1st

[LotusJuggalo17]

Hey, you guys rules. Rotendo I sent you a PM and asked you a question, but I guess I'll ask it here along with another question.

1) Is the ASCIIware Playstation joystick easy to wire? I bought one for like $13 today and it's a temporary one, but I was curious if it was easy to make a Joystick with.

2) I was gonna ask about the Pelican fighter stick. Is that one easy to wire or a no solder wiring one? Please help me out, thanks!

Trevor

[LBt1st]

New Site is Up!

http://members.cox.net/joysticks

I've got a new layout so anyone linking to any of "Kevin's Badass..." joysticks pages may need to change them. There's still a bit left for me to do. Most of the text is a quite brief, I plan on revising it all a few times. But for now I wanted to get the new xbox stuff on there since everyone's itching for CvS2 :)
If anyone's got any questions/suggestions, even if it seems obvious, let me know. I'll be working on the site off and on for the next couple days.

I've got my stick finished (plently of pics on the site). I think it came out pretty good and I'm pretty happy with how I got the port for the Live communicator setup. I can't wait for CvS2 so I can try it out.


-LBt1st

[RANDoM_MAI]

Originally posted by LotusJuggalo17
Hey, you guys rules. Rotendo I sent you a PM and asked you a question, but I guess I'll ask it here along with another question.

1) Is the ASCIIware Playstation joystick easy to wire? I bought one for like $13 today and it's a temporary one, but I was curious if it was easy to make a Joystick with.

2) I was gonna ask about the Pelican fighter stick. Is that one easy to wire or a no solder wiring one? Please help me out, thanks!

Trevor

i don't know about the asciiware one but i can tell you that the pelican you would have to solder.

~RaNDoM

[sefskillz]

Will that madcatz pad work on xbox live? Some of those third party pads dont work on live and I'd hate to go through all that trouble to find out it doesn't work :)

[Needle Knife]

Originally posted by LBt1st
New Site is Up!

http://members.cox.net/joysticks

I've got a new layout so anyone linking to any of "Kevin's Badass..." joysticks pages may need to change them. There's still a bit left for me to do. Most of the text is a quite brief, I plan on revising it all a few times. But for now I wanted to get the new xbox stuff on there since everyone's itching for CvS2 :)
If anyone's got any questions/suggestions, even if it seems obvious, let me know. I'll be working on the site off and on for the next couple days.

I've got my stick finished (plently of pics on the site). I think it came out pretty good and I'm pretty happy with how I got the port for the Live communicator setup. I can't wait for CvS2 so I can try it out.


-LBt1st

DAMN!

Everyone here is the best! I have seen some reports of hacking a Madcatz pad so I bought one myself. You beat me to the punch though I do NOT have the experience that you do at these! Hats off to you. Great site and the pics are good. I do have one question. Some of the posts indicate that the red/black wiring from the rumble motor are 5V(red I suppose). Isthis right for the Madcatz pad? If it is, then you have a ready made 5V lead PLUS ground for the stick. I am not sure if this is a common ground for the pad itself or just the motor. If it is a common ground, the work becomesthat much easier as you can daisy-chain that ground wire to the whole assembly. If notm then that ground can go to the 360 stcik and one can come offthe D-pad and daisy chain from there, right? Any responses to these questions are appreciated!

[LBt1st]

Thanks, I didn't try testing the motor connections because I figured they would only have any juice while the motor(s) are actually spinning. Perhaps the the hot wire does always have power though and the ground for the motor is what's turned off and on.
I also found this pad to be the easiest to solder out of any of the one's I've ever done. You get to work with large bare metal connections. Put a dab of flux on each one and you can do the whole thing in minutes.

sefskillz, yes the MadCatz works with Live just fine. Even with my port setup I could hear and speak just fine. However, this is a shitty controller for Moto GP ;)


-LBt1st

[LotusJuggalo17]

Here are some pictures of my PCB board to my joystick, that doesn't look too good... looks like that of the crappy Sony controllers.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lotus...xvii/ascii1.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lotus...xvii/ascii2.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lotus...xvii/ascii3.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lotus...xvii/ascii4.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lotus...xvii/ascii5.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lotus...xvii/ascii6.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lotus...xvii/ascii7.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lotus...xvii/ascii8.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lotus...xvii/ascii9.jpg

hmm those should be

mywebpages.comcast.net / lotusjuggaloxvii / ascii#.jpg

cept no spaces

[gunjack_fever]

gghh

[Rick Fn Stalvey]

I am looking for a japanese "baseball bat" joystick as apposed to the ball. I saw it on a website a while ago but lost the link. I am looking to buy it online.

[PSX]

Anyone can recomend a good joy stick to gut for the pcb to use a for a xbox stick?

My friend just made one with the offical xbox controller its a pain cause the contacts are so small and the cost of the original xbox controller.

So we saw online that mad catz is only $20 and the contacts are so big for soldering u cant go wrong.


Now here are my questions.


1. How good is the pelican controler to use as a pcb. Are the contacts a good size?

2. What controller is ideal in cost and size for using as a xbox pcb

3. Do they all work with xbox live?

4. any diagrams on installing a p360 to a xbox controller and can it be done?


I appreciate the help. Hoping to finish the stick in time for xbox live.

[Voodoo]

Just saw this:
http://www.happcontrols.com/joysticks/50608300.htm

Complete 360s going for $25 bucks each at Happ.
The sale ends 3/31.

[LBt1st]

Originally posted by psx2000
Anyone can recomend a good joy stick to gut for the pcb to use a for a xbox stick?

My friend just made one with the offical xbox controller its a pain cause the contacts are so small and the cost of the original xbox controller.

So we saw online that mad catz is only $20 and the contacts are so big for soldering u cant go wrong.


Now here are my questions.


1. How good is the pelican controler to use as a pcb. Are the contacts a good size?

2. What controller is ideal in cost and size for using as a xbox pcb

3. Do they all work with xbox live?

4. any diagrams on installing a p360 to a xbox controller and can it be done?


I appreciate the help. Hoping to finish the stick in time for xbox live.


uhh, in the time it took you to type all that you could have just clicked the link at the top of this page.


-LBt1st

[sefskillz]

Alright, for anyone interested in doing this madcatz xbox mod, MadCatz is Electronic Boutique's VOM this month so the deal is if you buy any madcatz accessory you get the second one half off. So if you want to pick up a ps2 madcatz controller (19.99) to make an arcade stick with you can pick up an xbox one as well for just 9.99...

you can do this on their site as well, use the coupon code VOMFEB

[Vinnyman]

man, i have a major problem trying to get my P360s to work.....the same problem persist for both DC and PS2.....so this is the problem....i've found my 5V on the pad (multitester) and have my common ground ready.....but as soon as i plug in my directional wires to the corresponding place, it startes going haywire........let me describe it in detail

i plug in the UP wire=nothing happens
when i plug up the DOWN wire with the UP wire plugged up already=it starts going UP repeatedly

so as soon as i plug up the second directional wire, it proceeds to activate to previous wire constantly.....and get this, i have the 5v and ground connected for the P360, but even when i the 5v and ground disconnected, IT DOES THE SAME EXACT THING. so regardless of the wires being connected, it still behaves the same exact way. i don't get it.....is there something being scrambled on the pad...and how is the P360s going haywire even without the ground and 5v being connected....this is very frustrating. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!:(

[ant one]

The same thng happened to me on my first try. Check your soldering. You have probably connected a lead and ground somewhere with solder. Make sure on the contacts under the buttons that the solder hasnt linked the 2. Its easy to do. Thats probably what happened. Just re solder your up joint. Clean the the solder off first though.

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by ant one
The same thng happened to me on my first try. Check your soldering. You have probably connected a lead and ground somewhere with solder. Make sure on the contacts under the buttons that the solder hasnt linked the 2. Its easy to do. Thats probably what happened. Just re solder your up joint. Clean the the solder off first though.
i forgot to mention that it works fine for 8-ways, but when i switch the joystick with a P360, then it scrambles.

[PacJam]

$20 - controller to use
$15 - joystick
$15 - buttons
$20 - to make a Nice box (paint & graphics etc.)
$40 - Theoretically, 8 hours of your time @ on $5 an hour.

........that's $110...........hmmmm

Oh yea......(Extra for tools if you don't have'em) (Plus add even more if it's your first time. It's going to take you longer, plus you'll probably make some mistakes.)


.....realistically, I just don't see a BIG savings with making your own. Unless you've just got everything you need already laying the house, or you're just doing this for personal enjoyment...... I'm just not seeing it...

[FMJaguar]

Originally posted by PacJam
$20 - controller to use
$15 - joystick
$15 - buttons
$20 - to make a Nice box (paint & graphics etc.)
$40 - Theoretically, 8 hours of your time @ on $5 an hour.


Cause if your going through all that trouble, odds are that your going to at least be resourceful, my pads were $3 at EB clearance (save $14, get 2) , If you don't want convex or 360 i recommend XA sticks and buttons, which totals $20 for 2 sticks (save $10), ok $20 for box, but get enough for 2. That is a savings of $24 off your total, and i have 2 sticks instead of one. Now consider that half the people on SRK have nothing better to do, and their time isn't worth $40, so now you have a total of $56 (I added 10 for misc parts) for 2 joysticks. Oh i forgot psx->* adaptors, so ends up around $80.

[PacJam]

Originally posted by FMJaguar


Cause if your going through all that trouble, odds are that your going to at least be resourceful, my pads were $3 at EB clearance (save $14, get 2) , If you don't want convex or 360 i recommend XA sticks and buttons, which totals $20 for 2 sticks (save $10), ok $20 for box, but get enough for 2. That is a savings of $24 off your total, and i have 2 sticks instead of one. Now consider that half the people on SRK have nothing better to do, and their time isn't worth $40, so now you have a total of $56 (I added 10 for misc parts) for 2 joysticks. Oh i forgot psx->* adaptors, so ends up around $80.




Personally, I built my own. It made sense for me simply because I actually had "everything" laying around. Joysticks, buttons, all the tools, wire, solder, soldering iron & even a gutted box. I definitely wanted to have voice capability on LIVE, so I spent $20 on a xbox MADCatz controller & and installed it in a manner that I could easily take the headset unit in & out.

I agree, it is very possible to be very resourceful & save a little. I guess it all boils down to is if the hassle of scavenging for parts, building boxes, doing electronics work and possible trouble shooting is worth $20-$30 to the individual.

Eventhough I've actually made close to a hundred of these things & am extremely comfortable doing so.... if I didn't have my tools & parts laying around like I did....I wouldn't have. I would've paid someone the $20 I would've saved & been free of the hassle........

[Choi Joon]

Is it possibly to make a arcade stick with a keyboard?

[Voodoo]

Originally posted by Choi Joon
Is it possibly to make a arcade stick with a keyboard?
Yeah. One way is with an iPac ($40 - http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html). You solder your button inputs into the ipac board, then just plug the board into your pc's ps/2 or usb port. You're sort of just replace a controller with the ipac.

Another way is when you take a keyboard apart, wire up buttons to the (giant) circuit board, and go from there. Lots of people used to do that for Mame cabs before the ipac came around. It takes a little bit more effort though.

[splits]

The last pic I posted was of the front, but I think you might like this as well. I've got a foundry and I've been making SNK and Capcom logo's to sell/give to my friends out of brass, bronze and Aluminum. If you don't cut of the sprews & risers, they make a nice grip for the stick, or a great place to wrap a cord around.

[sefskillz]

I'm currently working on LB1st's xbox mod tutorial, I got everything working except the x button and my problem is when i took it up last time i lost all the copper in the area im supposed to solder to.. are there any other spots on that i can solder at? If not, I guess I could connect the L or R buttons instead...

[PSX]

Curious question.

From a legal stand point is it legal for somoene to sell a custom built arcade stick using another companies pcb controller?


Someone tells me that its illegal do to using another companies pcb being used etc,etc.

How would this work?

I know mas systems uses custom built PCBS but what is the law on it?

Seth or anyone that is a legal know it all, please help me out on this one.

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by psx2000
Curious question.

From a legal stand point is it legal for somoene to sell a custom built arcade stick using another companies pcb controller?


Someone tells me that its illegal do to using another companies pcb being used etc,etc.

How would this work?

I know mas systems uses custom built PCBS but what is the law on it?

Seth or any legal know it all please help me out on this one.
is selling your PS2 or DC to a friend illegal? i would think not. i see it the same way with a Controller. they don't give a fuck about what you do with it...as if they will find out anyway.......what are they going to do, go through every custom stick in america to see if their pad is a skeleton? i would think not. why do people still burn games and DL roms?

[PSX]

Originally posted by Vinnyman

is selling your PS2 or DC to a friend illegal? i would think not. i see it the same way with a Controller. they don't give a fuck about what you do with it...as if they will find out anyway.......what are they going to do, go through every custom stick in america to see if their pad is a skeleton? i would think not. why do people still burn games and DL roms?

Ok the ending of that just was totally off topic. I mostly want to know more from a legal stand point cause we were arguing about it for a few minutes and he made valid points about reverse engineering it etc.


My take was your not modifying the interior in any way but using the item as a key component etc, hes take was its using someones licensed product for resale etc. Long story.


Best example would be me taking PEPSI adding a lemon to it and selling my own drink. Wich pepsi could say is copyright infringement.

[FMJaguar]

To essentially take someone's controller and turn it into a joystick is not illegal. To purchase joypads and turn them into joysticks, then resell them as your own work, would need to be licensed by the joypad manufactures.

The idea with reverse engineering is that you figure out how the pad works and build your own. The difference is that you still have to build it yourself. You could still accomplish this by tapping into the leads, seeing what happens when you press a button, and constructing your own circuit to do the same thing (which is what everyone else probably does, or maybe the data is available from sony/ms/sega). Even tho it technically is the same, when it applies to bigger things it makes a difference.... i.e. you can reverse engineer an xbox to make an xbox compatible machine, but you can't mod an exsting xbox and call it your own.

[IronFist]

Originally posted by PacJam
$20 - controller to use
$15 - joystick
$15 - buttons
$20 - to make a Nice box (paint & graphics etc.)
$40 - Theoretically, 8 hours of your time @ on $5 an hour.

........that's $110...........hmmmm

Oh yea......(Extra for tools if you don't have'em) (Plus add even more if it's your first time. It's going to take you longer, plus you'll probably make some mistakes.)


.....realistically, I just don't see a BIG savings with making your own. Unless you've just got everything you need already laying the house, or you're just doing this for personal enjoyment...... I'm just not seeing it... Yeah, I've been looking into making my own custom stick for a while, but after weighing the costs, couldn't I just get a MAS stick? I don't know...the costs you put don't even include shipping as well...

Are there any sites with a step-by-step process to making a stick? I'm really new to this and I would probably end up making my own if i found one...:/

[sevenD_eight]

Originally posted by IronFist
Are there any sites with a step-by-step process to making a stick? I'm really new to this and I would probably end up making my own if i found one...:/

are you serious?

[IronFist]

:sweat:

It doesn't seem to hard now that I really think about it, but I'm not good with the wiring and stuff so I thought there'd be a lot less chance of me messing up with a guide you know :o

[Voodoo]

It's called "reading the thread."

There are at least a dozen such sites (step-by-step) that have been linked to in this thread.

Just FYI.

[IronFist]

I only looked through 1-5 and the last 3 pages :sweat:

I'll go through it all later :o thanks

[sevenD_eight]

Originally posted by IronFist
:sweat:

It doesn't seem to hard now that I really think about it, but I'm not good with the wiring and stuff so I thought there'd be a lot less chance of me messing up with a guide you know :o

honestly, anyone can make their own joystick. mine only took me 2 weeks(including shipping of parts) to build. And i didn't even work on it everyday. All i did was read through each of these pages and found all the answers to the questions i had.

I made mine with plexiglass and all. Its for ps/ps2 and i bought a dc adpater off ebay. Everything, in total, was less than $60 including tax n shit. Anyone can do it. The hardest part is getting started and obtaining everything you need. Once you get it tho, its cake. :D

Anything you mess up on, there has been atleast 1 person on this thread that messed up on it too. And if you dont find what you're looking for. People here are friendly. Unless you ask something like, "Where can i find buttons and a joystick!"

My advice to someone thats thinkin about building a custom stick: Do the research first. Find out what you're getting into. Hit up as many sites as possible. Most importantly, read every page on this thread. I'm sure its the most updated information available online.so, READ first, ASK questions last.

I'll post pics of my stick when i get a chance. good luck!

[Buddhistic]

Originally posted by sevenD_eight


honestly, anyone can make their own joystick. mine only took me 2 weeks(including shipping of parts) to build. And i didn't even work on it everyday. All i did was read through each of these pages and found all the answers to the questions i had.

I made mine with plexiglass and all. Its for ps/ps2 and i bought a dc adpater off ebay. Everything, in total, was less than $60 including tax n shit. Anyone can do it. The hardest part is getting started and obtaining everything you need. Once you get it tho, its cake. :D

Anything you mess up on, there has been atleast 1 person on this thread that messed up on it too. And if you dont find what you're looking for. People here are friendly. Unless you ask something like, "Where can i find buttons and a joystick!"

My advice to someone thats thinkin about building a custom stick: Do the research first. Find out what you're getting into. Hit up as many sites as possible. Most importantly, read every page on this thread. I'm sure its the most updated information available online.so, READ first, ASK questions last.

I'll post pics of my stick when i get a chance. good luck!

tru dat, tru dat... he is so right... you can find cheap parts lying around, and if you can't the only things that will be worth alot are the EQUIPMENT to shape the stick, like the saw or drill bits and hammer, screwdriver etc., not the medium itself, like the wood, paint, hinges... these are all extra things... you can make one out of an old SPEAKER Box like one guy on the net did... you don't need hinges unless your gonna utilize the opening function of your controller... and you don't NEED to paint it... fuck looking good, make shure that shit works first...

too all the noobs...
don't be afraid to go over this post and be confused... try searching on google or something on Arcade Controls, some sites may explain better than these posts here... ask questions if they haven't been answered... be creative... we wanna see new ideas... then exploit them... lol jp... but just make sure you get the concept before going into the "FIRE"...

p.s. yes... i hopefully will not be lazy and get my FUKKIN friends VidCam for my Stick to be shown... unless you like paintball... PM me for a pic... lol "SPYDER SHUTTER TWEAKED" ... better than a "cocker".

[RANDoM_MAI]

I finally got a chance to use my friends digital camera.
here is a link to the pic
http://www.geocities.com/random_mai/sticks.html?1045074255662

the top left stick is mine. the top right is a massstick, and the bottom middle is my firends.

it didn't cost that much to make the sticks. the stick and button were 40 with s&h. MDF wood is 5 bucks. i got the 1000psx pad from eb for only 2 BUCKS!!!:D i had all the soldering stuff from modding ps2's. and the only tool i had to buy was the 1 and 1/8 drill bit.
my massstick cost 170 with s&h. homestick was about 70. save 100 bucks.!!! plus i had fun making the sticks.

To all the newbies making sticks,pm me and i will answer questions about stick making.save room on thread. i dont mind answering questions that were alrdy asked and answered in the thread. i know how hard it is to look something up.

~RaNDoM

[TrackZ]

Hello,

First post here. Just found these forums yesterday. This is exactly the kind of stuff I've been looking for. I've read the entire backlog and learned quite a bit. I do have a few new questions.

I'm looking to build stick (obviously). Something along the lines of M3talslug's. I'd like to make it PS2-based and then convert to the other systems as needed. Will be on Live with CvSNK2.

1. Has anyone hacked a PS2 Dual Shock controller? Does the fact that all buttons are analog affect the ability to use it? Any links to pictures available?

2. Has anyone used a Magic Box to go from PS2 to Xbox? Does this work with the Live headset without a problem?

Thanks!

[bradlee289]

All,
I have a MAME cabinet that I hooked up using an I-pac.
My questions is, is there something out there what will convert my ps2 keyboard connection from my I-pac to a Dreamcast?

I would love to put a DC in my cabinet too.

Brad

[VincentDelpino]

Originally posted by sefskillz
I'm currently working on LB1st's xbox mod tutorial, I got everything working except the x button and my problem is when i took it up last time i lost all the copper in the area im supposed to solder to.. are there any other spots on that i can solder at? If not, I guess I could connect the L or R buttons instead...

yes the whole trace is coper. you just need to scrape the coating off. all the lines on the board are copper

[GotenSSJX24]

RANDoM_MAI
my massstick cost 170 with s&h

You paied 170 for a mas? You got ripped. Mine was only 100.

[YieArKungFu]

$20 - controller to use
$15 - joystick
$15 - buttons
$20 - to make a Nice box (paint & graphics etc.)
$40 - Theoretically, 8 hours of your time @ on $5 an hour.

........that's $110...........hmmmm

Oh yea......(Extra for tools if you don't have'em) (Plus add even more if it's your first time. It's going to take you longer, plus you'll probably make some mistakes.)


.....realistically, I just don't see a BIG savings with making your own. Unless you've just got everything you need already laying the house, or you're just doing this for personal enjoyment...... I'm just not seeing it...
Yeah $20 a controller, are you talking X-Box? I like DC better my used DC pad cost me $5.
Joystick cost $13,
buttons cost $11,
wires and various electronic parts maybe $6,
I used an old speaker box (I don't give a fuck how it looks as long as it plays good),
and I used less then 4 hours total making the shit even though it was my first time and I fucked up on the soldiering a couple times.
that comes to less then $40 for an arcade quality controller that took about 3 hours of work in front of the TV (which is prolly how I would have used those 3 hours anyway) using tools I borrowed from my friends dad (just a drill oh and I paid $3 for the bit:p). Wow if it takes anyone 8 hours either they are way to worried about being a professional about it (painting custom art and shit) or they are a fucking retard. Anyone could go find a fucking wooden box for less then $5 if they tried. And guess what I almost bought a MAS, those things are absolute shit... Everyone I know that has one it randomly cuts off in the middle of matches and they wasted $100 fucking dollars on it... plus when my microswitches wear out I had the foresight to order a couple extra so while the MAS player is eating shit I make a quick adjustment and I'm back in the game... And you want some irony? with the $60 bucks I saved I bought a multitool... Now when people's MAS's break I offer to make their dumb asses a stick...

[supastar911]

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00004TNMP.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

If I were to get a stick and buttons like the ones seen in the picture, would I be able to make a controller to work on my computer? I wanna make sure before I buy the stick and buttons from my local arcade (japanese).

[RANDoM_MAI]

Originally posted by GotenSSJX24


You paied 170 for a mas? You got ripped. Mine was only 100.

no way you can only pay 100. you have shipping.

100 base with ps2
+30 for DC add on
+20 for custom all blackbox, red buttons and soft spring competition.
+20 for shipping

170 grand total

~RANDoM

[Voodoo]

Originally posted by bradlee289
I would love to put a DC in my cabinet too.
If you're running off a jamma system (going to assume no since you're not using a jpac), dc2jamma is really easy to do.

You might find something of worth here though:
http://www.mameworld.net/pc2jamma/arc_dc1.html

[VincentDelpino]

Originally posted by Voodoo

If you're running off a jamma system (going to assume no since you're not using a jpac), dc2jamma is really easy to do.

You might find something of worth here though:
http://www.mameworld.net/pc2jamma/arc_dc1.html

the info on that page is wrong

[FMJaguar]

Originally posted by supastar911
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00004TNMP.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

If I were to get a stick and buttons like the ones seen in the picture, would I be able to make a controller to work on my computer? I wanna make sure before I buy the stick and buttons from my local arcade (japanese).

Almost every post on this thread assumes US style sticks and buttons, IIRC the japanese buttons are a different size, so they may not fit in US holes, technically if your the one making the box you can do whatever you want, just keep in mind the dimensions and layout will be slightly off.. the concepts (grounds, switches, etc...) still apply the same.

[bradlee289]

Yeah, I am not using Jamma. I just have arcade controls to an Ipac > Ipac to PC > PC to TV.

My only hurdle is getting my arcade controls to my DC.

I saw one of the links where someone wired their controls to PS controllers then used adapters to DC and USB. Maybe thats the best solution for me.

Brad

[cymaltek]

Does anyone know how many grounds the palican dual shock controller has?? Anyone know a dual shock 1 or 2 thats hack friendly and or have 1 ground???

[Liquid Gears]

What's the best controller to use on Capcom Vs. SNK 2 EO for the XBox? The main controller sucks ass. What do you guys use?

[supastar911]

Almost every post on this thread assumes US style sticks and buttons, IIRC the japanese buttons are a different size, so they may not fit in US holes, technically if your the one making the box you can do whatever you want, just keep in mind the dimensions and layout will be slightly off.. the concepts (grounds, switches, etc...) still apply the same.

Ok, thanks. I just needed to know if the wiring was the same. What PC controller is the easiest to wire to make a joystick? Preferrably, solder-free.

[VincentDelpino]

Originally posted by cymaltek
Does anyone know how many grounds the palican dual shock controller has?? Anyone know a dual shock 1 or 2 thats hack friendly and or have 1 ground???

the whole board is basicaly a ground just find an aera without any traces on it and scrape off the coating till you hit copper

[arit]

I have only seen Xbox sticks with 6 buttons (besides back/start), so I want to know if it is possible to wire up the L/R triggers so there'll be 8 usable main buttons, because MK:DA needs at least 7 and I want to play it as well as cvss2 :rolleyes:

And which stick/buttons would you recommend a gamer whose only experience is the DC Arcade Stick?

Chris

[iMPULSZE]

Does anybody know how many different looking boards there are for the Dreamcast Madkatz? I have looked at CdVisions page, and he shows 2 different Madkatz DC boards. I purchased 2 white Madkatz controllers....and both of them look different than the two on the CDVision page. I am trying to find out how many of them have 1 ground, 2 grounds, or multiple grounds. I am trying to make a multi-system arcade stick, and would like all controllers to be 1 ground.... Any help... And, YES, I have read this whole forum. So I am using the Xbox Madkatz, and PS2 Madkatz.

[LBt1st]

Not sure how many people here have been using my Madcatz hack for Xbox but i found a flaw in my design that has been corrected on Feb 15th. So if you haven't been to my site since then and your buttons are acting up go there for the fix.

http://members.cox.net/joysticks


-LBt1st

[cymaltek]

Originally posted by LBt1st
Not sure how many people here have been using my Madcatz hack for Xbox but i found a flaw in my design that has been corrected on Feb 15th. So if you haven't been to my site since then and your buttons are acting up go there for the fix.

http://members.cox.net/joysticks

Do you need you connect these 2 points together on both sides of the controller or just on the right side like it shows in the picture???
-LBt1st

[Needle Knife]

Originally posted by LBt1st
Not sure how many people here have been using my Madcatz hack for Xbox but i found a flaw in my design that has been corrected on Feb 15th. So if you haven't been to my site since then and your buttons are acting up go there for the fix.

http://members.cox.net/joysticks


-LBt1st

I used the Madcatz modification and my stick iss working well. I do have one additional question, which was also asked but not answered previously. There were some confusing parts of your directions. First, you mentioned:

The resistors are still there and may cause games think L or R are slightly pressed. These come off easily by pulling on them while heating their connections. Use clamps or a friend to do this safely.
Which resistors are those? Are they the remnant tabs from the triggers as alluded to below?

You'll notice the resisters have three connections. On the board you need to connect two of these together using either a long blob of solder or a tiny piece of wire (See below pic). With the board positioned as if it were a gamepad, connect the top and middle conenctions. If your not sure if you got the right ones note that the remaining connection is Ground.

On your site, you mentioned tht you can connect the middle of the three connections. I did that and it works. However, can you still use the triggers by connecting the soldered end to a button? Again, any and all help is appreciated. LB1st's site is helping many out there.

[LBt1st]

Sadly it seems at this time there's no way to conenct L and R. I know this screws over MK. I'll see if I can figure out a way.
I think it'll be possible using a generic resistor inline with the button. I'll have to expirement later.

And yes the deal with the solder blobs should be done on both sides.

I've updated the site with more detail. Thanks guys for the feedback. Every question/comment you guys have will possibly help many, so don't hesitate.

-LBt1st

[eMFer]

I have a Reflex arcade stick and it has some problems. The chat is very static filled, making it hard to communicate. I would like to replace the buttons and the stick and fix the dongle slot. Does anyone forsee any problems with taking out the garbage buttons and stick and replacing them with good quality ones? I like the design of the stick so it would be ideal to replace instead of build from scratch. Thanks guys.

[Curatio]

Originally posted by eMFer
I have a Reflex arcade stick and it has some problems. The chat is very static filled, making it hard to communicate. I would like to replace the buttons and the stick and fix the dongle slot. Does anyone forsee any problems with taking out the garbage buttons and stick and replacing them with good quality ones? I like the design of the stick so it would be ideal to replace instead of build from scratch. Thanks guys.

That stick doesn't use standard arcade parts, so I doubt that you will be able to just replace the stick and buttons. Have you tried opening it up and seeing how easy it would be to hack? Seems like it might be easier to hack than the Mad Catz, since the triggers are actually buttons on this one. I'm thinking of doing this myself, since it is only about $16 at EB.

[Rei]

Originally posted by TrackZ


1. Has anyone hacked a PS2 Dual Shock controller? Does the fact that all buttons are analog affect the ability to use it? Any links to pictures available?


I also would like to know this. It would be nice to see if there is already work done on the dual shock before I rip one up like tonight or tomorrow.

[eMFer]

Originally posted by Curatio


That stick doesn't use standard arcade parts, so I doubt that you will be able to just replace the stick and buttons. Have you tried opening it up and seeing how easy it would be to hack? Seems like it might be easier to hack than the Mad Catz, since the triggers are actually buttons on this one. I'm thinking of doing this myself, since it is only about $16 at EB.

I did open up the Relfex stick and the stick base looks the same as what I see on Happs site. The buttons don't look similar. I don't think there is enough depth for good quality buttons. I was just going to replace them and see what happens but I want the ability to talk smack while playing and the dongle slot on the Reflex stick sucks. I can hardly hear anyone, it's full of static and they can't hear me. That is why I decided to go with the Mad Catz hack. I did everything already to my Mad Catz controller(removed the triggers, extended the chat dongle,etc) so now I just need the parts. I don't think they will so I will have to make my own case for it. I'm trying to fix the chat problems inside of the Reflex stick. If I do that I'm going to order an extra stick and replace the one inside of it. That would be a pretty easy hack if everything goes well.

[Buddhistic]

two of my joysticks are finally up!!!

i know there a crappy job, but check em out enywayts!?!

my first stick, crappy...
http://www.geocities.com/andublack/IM000855.JPG

my second stick, HAPPYier...
http://www.geocities.com/andublack/IM000854.JPG

cute ain't it?...

post more profile pics latr...

jia JEN!

[Curatio]

Okay, I picked up a Reflex Arcade Stick today for only $17 at EB and tried it out. It worked okay, but the stick and buttons are a bit stiff and everything is too small.

So then I decided to open it up, and inside is a great circuit board that can be used for a custom setup. All the connections for the buttons, joystick, and headset slot are actually WIRED to the pcb, and all the wires are clearly labeled. So I snipped all the wires, removed the circuit board, and soldered all the wires to the corresponding wires inside my old C&L Championship Joystick for the SNES. It was so easy, and only took an hour or two. The stick worked perfectly!

Now I just have to add two more buttons to the case for the left and right trigger, and cut a hole for the headset connector. This was a really simple and inexpensive way to get a fully functional custom stick with voice support. It's even easier than the Mad Catz hack, and works better, too.

[Buddhistic]

http://www.geocities.com/andublack/IM000854.JPG

thank yoo!

[SominexII]

If someone has an X Arcade and wants to put a Perfect 360 in there, they'll need a 5VDC power supply. Radio Shack sells one

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F004%5F001%5F001%5F000&product%5Fid=273%2D1667

What's the wiring plan to make a connector for this power supply to work with it?

[ryucross]

Does anyone have any advice on choosing/preparing/finishing the wood used for your sticks?

Other question: I'm looking at getting a Happ joystick. As this is my first project, I'm staying away from the Perfect 360. What are the differences between the Super, Competition and Ultimate joysticks?

[Buddhistic]

sorry for posting more pics of my stick... jus didn't have time to do all at once... fuckin geocities... got me all excited n shit...

http://www.geocities.com/andublack/IM000836.JPG

[Buddhistic]

Originally posted by ryucross
Does anyone have any advice on choosing/preparing/finishing the wood used for your sticks?

Other question: I'm looking at getting a Happ joystick. As this is my first project, I'm staying away from the Perfect 360. What are the differences between the Super, Competition and Ultimate joysticks?

i jus stick to basic spray painting and LEXAN.... but i think thats easy.... if you want yours to be simple jus make sure to sand the sharp edges and uneven spots...

i use 3/4 in particle board... it's the same as a MAS stick... if your not familiar with this fine product...

http://www.massystems.com

i think preferences of joystick height and size are to matter, i think ultimate is comfortable to me jus cause i like the US arcade... there are lollipop joys out there... but i dunno where they are,,,, lol:confused:

they all work exactly the same, trust me... it's jus the stick shape thats different

anything else, jus ask me? aii

i aRe aLsO ILoveAnim on #gamecombos

[SominexII]

Originally posted by ryucross
Does anyone have any advice on choosing/preparing/finishing the wood used for your sticks?

Other question: I'm looking at getting a Happ joystick. As this is my first project, I'm staying away from the Perfect 360. What are the differences between the Super, Competition and Ultimate joysticks?

Here's a good review right here that addresses your inquiry



http://www.oscarcontrols.com/joycompare/joyreview1.shtml

[J-ride]

I like to use plywood because its strong, and cheap, and doesnt break as easy as MDF. I have used MDF and I always have trouble with it. So I just assemble the stick, glue it together and sand it flush. Then paint that shit down.

Personally I hate the Super, and the Ultimate. I think the Ultimate feels shitty, and I cant stand the super.

I mostly use Comp, and I just built a P360 and I didnt think that it was worth the extra money IMO. You can tell the difference, but I dont think it justifies the expense. I am getting the pics of my joystick developed FINALLY. So MAYBE EVENTUALLY I WILL BE ABLE TO POST THEM lol. Im such a slacker. But I think if I build anymore I am only going to use Comp stick and buttons, unless somone just WANTS a P360. (I will be building some for my crew this summer.)

[Spazbiohaz]

What is the best custom arcade stick
So far i see HAPP Comp stick and MAS Pro.stick
Which is better and is there a better one

[matthulgan]

On the xbox mad catz hack- Would it be OK to just leave the triggers intact if you're making a 6 button (plus start and back) stick? It seems like if the pcb still has them on and it's sitting snugly inside the box they'll never get pulled and the pcb won't complain a bit. The reason I as is that I'm all for using the fewest steps possible.

[TrackZ]

Really could use some information on hacking a PS2 Dual Shock. I opened mine up tonight, and it looks like it should be easy to connect to the base of the ribbon cable plug that links all D-pad, Start, Select, face buttons, and triggers, but I'd like to see a pin-out on this connector if someone has one. Thanks.