The Official Custom Arcade Sticks Thread

[Rei]

LB, I did a madcatz xbox hack today, and the pcb has changed since you made your page. The solder points for back and start are no longer there. You actually have to scratch your own points and junk. The crossbar was correctly mapped on the one that I did, and like you, I sacrificed an old Dreamcast hack to do it.

A few notes for anyone that is doing it.

If you are using one of the old dreamcast hacks with 2 grounds, you are going to have to rewire the joystick with a common ground.

I ended up leaving the triggers on the pcb intact. I have not have the problem that LB had.

[Buddhistic]

Originally posted by ant one
sorry splits i didnt know that you wanted them. I dont think i can post them anyway as the files are too big.
AO

i liek the way you custom cut your plexi... how you do that, or did you ask the peeps at Home Depot to do it for you?

[ant one]

I cut the plexi myself. I dont get really get home depot to do much. I got a huge sheet of plexi for 45 dollars ( about 30 US). It is 4 ft x8 ft. So i m pretty sure home depot would tell me to piss off if i brought that in.

[ashurax]

Anyone know how to wire perfect 360 joysticks to a mad catz dreamcast pad? I was thinking of buying one but wasn't sure if I'd be able to wire them correctly. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Rei]

Originally posted by ashurax
Anyone know how to wire perfect 360 joysticks to a mad catz dreamcast pad? I was thinking of buying one but wasn't sure if I'd be able to wire them correctly. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I've never hacked a Mad Catz DC pad, so I couldn't tell you. Nevertheless, you can get a continuity tester and find the 5v on the pcb. Here is a site that shows the 5v as it comes into the pcb.
http://mc.pp.se/dc/controller.html
The 5v connection is mainly used to power the vmu. Again, you can use a tester to find the 5v on the VMU connections and solder off that.

If you don't know what you are doing, you can blow your DC controller ports.

Now, if you don't want to do this, another option is to buy a 5v power supply from radioshack and plug the 360s into the wall independant of the DC power. This is actually a better option if you are doing combo sticks, because you don't have to worry about finding a 5v soldering point from every pcb that you hack.

Edit: Aside from having to find a 5v power from somewhere, all other instructions that you will find should stay the same. Check out CD Vision's page for the Mad Catz PCB hack.

[Morphiend]

the happ site has been down all day?

i'm going to try to get a hack started soon for an xbox stick.

a couple questions i've got

1. the reflex arcade stick DOES work with the p360?

2. anyone have the dimensions, or better yet, a template, of the mas box?

[RANDoM_MAI]

I had just recently got a p360 for my joystick. i made the stick with the psx1000 pad. i got a mutlimeter from roadio shack.

my question is how do i find the +5V?
do i set the tester on AC or DC?
Which lead do i use? the red one or black? both?
Do i just point on all the solder points?

sorry i never used a mulitmeter before.

also on the p360.
it says face the eletrical part to the players right side.
does that mean palce the part with the up,down,left,right conections to the players right or the part with the ground and +5V to the players right?

Thanks
~RaNDOM

[J-ride]

Originally posted by arit
Well, here is my 1/2 custom made Xbox Arcade Stick :sweat:
I really wanted build a complete selmade one but I didn't (ansd still don't) know how much I'll have to pay for shipping when I order something from happ to Germany and the pad (http://www.mister-five.de/ebay/xboxcontrollerpeter.jpg) only costed me ~11$ + ~10$ for the DC stick :sweat:

http://home.arcor.de/van-arit/st1.jpg
http://home.arcor.de/van-arit/st2.jpg

Thats really funny, I never thought of hacking the Jstick and buttons out of that stick lol. Too good man, I personally dont like that stick, but if you do they more power to you! And I thought I had seen it all. How the fuck did you fit a new controller in there? I took my agetec apart and it was tight as hell in there! I respect the skills!

[Morphiend]

is there any specific type of wire that is preferred?

[Ultima-X]

Hey where did that Sav Stick thread go?

[Buddhistic]

Originally posted by ant one
I cut the plexi myself. I dont get really get home depot to do much. I got a huge sheet of plexi for 45 dollars ( about 30 US). It is 4 ft x8 ft. So i m pretty sure home depot would tell me to piss off if i brought that in.

in home depot, you can get it custom cut b4 you leave the store...

i usually buy small ones so i could easily get them cut... i don't make alot... so i buy the smallest rectangles.

[Voodoo]

I'm looking for an image pointing out a 5v connection on any psx/ps2 pcb.

The link on the second page doesn't have the image anymore.

[sonikku]

hey, where do you guys get the promotional posters that you put on your sticks? I wanna customize mine and get rid of the plain black color.

[J-ride]

Nearly all of mine come frome internet wallpaper sites, because they are the only pics I have found that have enough resolution to get blown up and still look good.

[armorK_I_N_G]

is a Redoctane stick any good itself?!

[J-ride]

Originally posted by Morphiend
is there any specific type of wire that is preferred?

Most people use 20 or 22 gauge wire.

[supastar911]

Is it possible to make a converter for the DC stick so you can play on the computer?

[J-ride]

Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=29&products_id=1939&

[supastar911]

yeah, thanks:)

[Alex]

I just got my competition stick in and it came with this little thing i was suppose to put on the botom called the E-ring.....and i lost it..was it important...?

[sevenD_eight]

Originally posted by Alex
I just got my competition stick in and it came with this little thing i was suppose to put on the botom called the E-ring.....and i lost it..was it important...?

E-ring or C-clip?

if it was the C-clip then you besta look for it!!.:eek: .Thats the only thing holding your joystick together! without it you'll just be able to lift the stick right outta your box...

[Alex]

E-ring or C-clip?

if it was the C-clip then you besta look for it!!.:eek: .Thats the only thing holding your joystick together! without it you'll just be able to lift the stick right outta your box... [/B][/QUOTE]

Well it says its an e righ.. Bit i can lift the joystick right out...Its so mall I hope i can find it. But if i cant i think its all good

[Kasbah]

Yeah the docs from Happ call it an E-Ring. Without it (or a suitable replacement) your joystick isn't going to be secured.

I don't know if they sell those in hardware stores, but you should probably be able to jury rig it somehow if you can't find it. Or maybe if you call Happ they can get you just one of those.

[metrock1]

Yeah they sell the E-ring or C-clip at most hardware stores. If not at home depot then u should try your local nut and bolt specific store. I would take the stick itself and the documentation if it has the specs for the size of it.

Also some one said the X arcade does not have a 5v wire on it, what I was wondering if the lil red light will be ebough to power a 360 er what ever. I am not gonna do this for myself since I dont like 360's but just a heads up for those who do have one.

[Freakshow]

hey. I was wondering if there was any advise for converting the shadowblade arcade stick for ps2. mainly i wanted to know if the board had enough wires so I could use a quick connect or would I have to solder new ones onto it?

Thanks
Derrick

[sevenD_eight]

Originally posted by Freakshow
hey. I was wondering if there was any advise for converting the shadowblade arcade stick for ps2. mainly i wanted to know if the board had enough wires so I could use a quick connect or would I have to solder new ones onto it?

Thanks
Derrick

i use psx pads so i dont know wassup w/ the shadow blade..the best thing to do is open it up and check it yourself..unless someone here has knowledge about the particular stick...

yo metrock, you the same metrock from gfaqs?just asking

laters...

[Ookima]

hmmm...my buttons on my good ol Namco stick is starting go out on me...instead of buying a new stick I decided to just replace the buttons with ones from Happcontrols...but I was looking at them and was wondering if anyone from SRK can suggest what type of buttons to get?

[RANDoM_MAI]

ATTN p360 Gurus
I had just recently got a p360 for my joystick. i made the stick with the psx1000 pad. i got a mutlimeter from roadio shack.

my question is how do i find the +5V?
do i set the tester on AC or DC?
Which lead do i use? the red one or black? both?
Do i just point on all the solder points?

sorry i never used a mulitmeter before.

also on the p360.
it says face the eletrical part to the players right side.
does that mean palce the part with the up,down,left,right conections to the players right or the part with the ground and +5V to the players right?

Thanks
~RaNDOM

[FMJaguar]

Several people have mentioned converting namco/shadowblade sticks with new parts. As far as i know this will not work. There are no US sticks that are actually made with standard us dimensions/parts outside of MAS/custom/X-arcade/maybe that red octane?. Namco/other sticks may be made to japan specs but i don't know for sure. Someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.

[Morphiend]

is there a site with premade wallpaper to layover the control panel for a stick? i tried a google search but didn't come up with much..

[m3talslug]

Let me answer the easy questions first. They recommend that you face the joystick the right way... however if you get it wrong, it makes no big deal. The directions just won't correspond to the lables. <-- but if you can get it right... why not eh?

OK well with the multimeter thing... what kind of PCB are you working with.

First turn on your multimeter on a voltage setting. Then plug in your PCB so it's powered. Put one pin on ground and use the other pin to test for the +5v. Start by testing the tail end of all the wires coming in from the port.

WHen you see the voltage register as 5 then you've found our +5v.

Sometimes it won't be 5v. Some boards won't have that... i.e. a 3v or a 7v will have to do.

Originally posted by RANDoM_MAI
ATTN p360 Gurus
I had just recently got a p360 for my joystick. i made the stick with the psx1000 pad. i got a mutlimeter from roadio shack.

my question is how do i find the +5V?
do i set the tester on AC or DC?
Which lead do i use? the red one or black? both?
Do i just point on all the solder points?

sorry i never used a mulitmeter before.

also on the p360.
it says face the eletrical part to the players right side.
does that mean palce the part with the up,down,left,right conections to the players right or the part with the ground and +5V to the players right?

Thanks
~RaNDOM

[Kasbah]

A good wallpaper site is www.deviantart.com . Not necessarily game related but you can find some good stuff there.

[Freakshow]

Originally posted by FMJaguar
Several people have mentioned converting namco/shadowblade sticks with new parts. As far as i know this will not work. There are no US sticks that are actually made with standard us dimensions/parts outside of MAS/custom/X-arcade/maybe that red octane?. Namco/other sticks may be made to japan specs but i don't know for sure. Someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.

I noticed that. sorry. what I was refering to was if anyone has gutted the shadowblade to see how the pcb is set up for wiring to a better stick in a new box. Also for those interested, the red octane stick can be used with a standard arcade style joystick. I just cracked mine open and looked around

[RANDoM_MAI]

Originally posted by m3talslug
Let me answer the easy questions first. They recommend that you face the joystick the right way... however if you get it wrong, it makes no big deal. The directions just won't correspond to the lables. <-- but if you can get it right... why not eh?

OK well with the multimeter thing... what kind of PCB are you working with.

First turn on your multimeter on a voltage setting. Then plug in your PCB so it's powered. Put one pin on ground and use the other pin to test for the +5v. Start by testing the tail end of all the wires coming in from the port.

WHen you see the voltage register as 5 then you've found our +5v.

Sometimes it won't be 5v. Some boards won't have that... i.e. a 3v or a 7v will have to do.



i'm using the playstation one dual shock controll. i think its the same controller you used in your 2 stick project. do you remember where your +5v was? also does it matter if i put it on dc or ac?

and i didn't understand your answer to how to face the joystick?

[m3talslug]

If you're using the same controller as me... you wanna wire the +5v from Pin 5 (VCC) on your PSX pad.

I used the SONY brand PSX pads and it was the RED wire.

WHen I tested it with the multimeter, it registered as 3v... but everything seems to work just fine.

Originally posted by RANDoM_MAI


i'm using the playstation one dual shock controll. i think its the same controller you used in your 2 stick project. do you remember where your +5v was? also does it matter if i put it on dc or ac?

and i didn't understand your answer to how to face the joystick?

[LotusJuggalo17]

Hey, I have a question for you guys.

I have an ASCII Ware stick and It has the black shit over the contacts. I have heard that you can kill a PCB by hitting these contacts too hard, is that true? Also, how hard would it be for a beginner to scrape it off and be successful?

[RANDoM_MAI]

Originally posted by m3talslug
If you're using the same controller as me... you wanna wire the +5v from Pin 5 (VCC) on your PSX pad.

I used the SONY brand PSX pads and it was the RED wire.

WHen I tested it with the multimeter, it registered as 3v... but everything seems to work just fine.



Thanks for all the help metalslug.

Does it matter if i set the mutlimeter to AC or DC?
~RaNDoM

[TrackZ]

Regarding the voltage on the PS/PS2 pad, the supply from the system is 3.3v, so you won't get a full 5v. From everything I've read and been told, the 3.3v will work just fine. Alternatively, there's a voltage regulator on the larger shock motor that outputs >7v. Not sure if this could be harmfull to the P360 though. I'd recommend sticking with the 3.3v. That's what we're using for our sticks, although we haven't tested yet, we're still in the main construction phase.

[TrackZ]

For anyone looking for pictures to use for their overlays, I highly recommend checking out Fighters Generation.

http://www.gamegen.com/main.htm

We obtained a lot of pictures here that we considered, and some we used, for our sticks.

[m3talslug]

set it to DC

Originally posted by RANDoM_MAI


Thanks for all the help metalslug.

Does it matter if i set the mutlimeter to AC or DC?
~RaNDoM

[J-ride]

Does anyone know where I can find a GGXX arcade template?

[Heihachi]

Is it possible to have one 360 stick and ten or six 360 buttons on console without burning the controller port. The clicking sound is killing me I already have my stick reaplce and thinking of getting 360 buttons, anybody done this before.(for some reason the 360 buttons are not on happs website anymore, now that I want them:confused: anybody know where I can find one)

[FMJaguar]

Originally posted by J-ride
Does anyone know where I can find a GGXX arcade template?

It appears to be a standard capcom layout with the forward button missing. In japan the buttons aren't on a straight line to being with tho, since there isn't a xx us release, i don't think anyonw knows lol.

[sonikku]

i dont know of this helps...but....

at my arcade, they use a normal cabinet with forward missing.

BUT, here are the buttons

jab= kick
strong=slash
fierce=heavy slash

short= punch
roundhouse= dust

I hope this helps in some small way. otherwise, check out the official GGXX arcade stick from sammy to see the button layout itself.

[FMJaguar]

here i pasted all the button layouts to a file, so you can see them side by side

[J-ride]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Thanks FMjaguar!! Well I saw the XX arcade stick for sale, so I was wondering if I could get a template, Maybe I will just buy one and make a template from that. I just thought it was cool the way the buttons where setup and all, I will go look on Guilty Gear though.

[VincentDelpino]

Originally posted by Heihachi
Is it possible to have one 360 stick and ten or six 360 buttons on console without burning the controller port. The clicking sound is killing me I already have my stick reaplce and thinking of getting 360 buttons, anybody done this before.(for some reason the 360 buttons are not on happs website anymore, now that I want them:confused: anybody know where I can find one)

you can always use a seperate power supply. and i believe they discontinued the 360 buttons.

[FMJaguar]

Originally posted by VincentDelpino


you can always use a seperate power supply. and i believe they discontinued the 360 buttons.

I haven't used the optical button, but unless your going to not press all the way down, it's still going to make a sound.

[Heihachi]

Originally posted by FMJaguar


I haven't used the optical button, but unless your going to not press all the way down, it's still going to make a sound.

Yes, your right it will still make a noise but the cherry swtiches makes a distinct noise on its own.

I don't have multi meter, did anyone measure the voltage on the DC pad yet. I know the PS/PS2 has 3.3 but someone mention a 7V spot. WHERE AT?

I called WICO they no longer sell 360 sticks,

[Rei]

Originally posted by Rei

...you can get a continuity tester and find the 5v on the pcb. Here is a site that shows the 5v as it comes into the pcb.
http://mc.pp.se/dc/controller.html
The 5v connection is mainly used to power the vmu. Again, you can use a tester to find the 5v on the VMU connections and solder off that.

If you don't know what you are doing, you can blow your DC controller ports.

Now, if you don't want to do this, another option is to buy a 5v power supply from radioshack and plug the 360s into the wall independant of the DC power. This is actually a better option if you are doing combo sticks, because you don't have to worry about finding a 5v soldering point from every pcb that you hack.

[Subliminal]

i wired up an agetec for xbox and i got the buttons working along with the communicator slot, but the joystick wont work, any tips? I wired the joystick by matching the colour of the wires, should i have done it by the wire positioning instead?

[Morphiend]

is there any performance difference between the competition and ultimate buttons?

[Sifu]

Subliminal: yes, wire position. If you think about it, a microswitch goes off when the stick actually hits it. If two wires go to a microswitch for the left position on one stick, obviously those same two wires will go to the left position on another stick.

Morphiend: I believe that the difference that ultimates are concave while competitions are convex, easier to mash & similar to Japanese buttons.

and... of course, THE PLUG (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23587)

[J-ride]

It takes longer to push in ultimates because the buttons are taller, you can mash comps hella fast. That is the only diff.

[ant one]

this the wiring for a dc madcatz, p 360, with competition buttons. Hope this can help.

[ant one]

i ve posted it before, but this is what the outside looks like

[metrock1]

Originally posted by sevenD_eight


iyo metrock, you the same metrock from gfaqs?just asking

laters...

Yes that would be I. I don't member your screen name. By any chance did u use another...

[LotusJuggalo17]

How risky is it to scrape off the black stuff from the official PS Control pads? I would go buy another controller, but money is a HUGE issue and I am trying to use what I can, without buying more stuff. Any ideas?

[AMinorThreat]

Anyone done anything with a red octane stick yet? I wanna get one and convert it with p360's and wanted to see if you guys had any luck with that.

[OvalProcess]

Hi, im new.

Just finished my xbox reflex hack yesterday. comp joystick and buttons, 3/4in ply, i'll post the guts when im not feeling so lazy (i.e. stoned).

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Training here sucks. Nothing to do in the desert, anyway...

Ant One: Nice stick, great job. I have one more month till I'm back home and all that shit. Keep up the good work everyone. Can't wait to get home and get on my own pc with no LIMIT on the internet and whatnot. Just checking up here on SRK. Later

[sevenD_eight]

Originally posted by metrock1


Yes that would be I. I don't member your screen name. By any chance did u use another...

insidiousJnB

[ashurax]

Right now Im working on improving my homemade joystick (so it looks as l337 as some of the examples Ive seen from you people). The three main things I'm planning on doing are building a new box for the joystick (I'm most likely gonna copy the dimensions from someone else's project, most likely cdvision's panel dimensions), using t-molding (I'm not too sure about how to put this in but Ive seen it in other joysticks and it looks great), and printing out some artwork and putting plexiglass on top of the artwork. Does anyone here have some helpful tips? I'm looking for help specifically in the area of how to use plexiglass and t-molding. Also, what type of wood do you use and what kind of finish do you use? Thanks in advance.

[Morphiend]

the box is a little effed up but i'll try to fix it later. still waiting for my reflex to come in. competition stick and buttons
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Morphiend216/stick1.jpg

[sonikku]

Originally posted by Morphiend
the box is a little effed up but i'll try to fix it later. still waiting for my reflex to come in. competition stick and buttons
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Morphiend216/stick1.jpg

oh...my....god...

what game does that art come from?

[jreinert13]

i would really appreciate it if someone could answer these questions.

Modifying a Mas Stick

Ok I'm thinking of somehow making my Mas xbox compatitable. Since I have no experience in building sticks I have a couple of questions:

If I add another pcb to my Mas, could I just twist the wires connecting to my new pcb with the old ones and use them on the same quick disconnect?

Why does my Mas have the ground wire only soldered to 1 button? Isn't the ground supposed to be connected to every button and direction switch?

[donaldducktm]

okay i made a commitment to myself to make a joystick. i have all the cutting tools, wood, and screws, but i need, according to CD_Vision's arcade controls. But the soldering shit is complicated:


For soldering onto the game pad:
-Soldering Iron (You may find that a lower wattage, like 15, is easiest to use)
-Solder (15 AWG Rosin Core)
-Wire Stripper
-Small Gauge Wire, Stranded 20-22 AWG or smaller
-(Optional) Dremel or other rotary tool
-Spade Connectors (Only needed for keyboard hacks)
-Screw-Down Barrier Strips (Only needed for keyboard hacks)

please help me someone and WHERE IS ROTENDO? i'mma message you iight?

ps...can someone give me the measurements on how to build a freakin josytick? :)

can someone give me a brief explanations on how complicated the insides of the sticks will be?

[donaldducktm]

I'll create the board and everything, but can anyone tell me how the insides are? i need to know where to connect and stuff. thanks

hey Rotendo get online!

could someone possibly do me a favor? i'm asking to re-create this thread and make a post where all the important stuff are needed. thanks

[Alex]

Originally posted by LotusJuggalo17
How risky is it to scrape off the black stuff from the official PS Control pads? I would go buy another controller, but money is a HUGE issue and I am trying to use what I can, without buying more stuff. Any ideas?
Its all good heres a site that recomends it http://syste.ms/joystick/

[Buddhistic]

Originally posted by ant one
this the wiring for a dc madcatz, p 360, with competition buttons. Hope this can help.

ant ONE!

got 4 questions for you

where'd you buy those hinges
what are they call
how much are they
were they easy to install

i tried to find similar hinges, but my HOME DEPOT is ghetto...

respond asap, please

(doin another stick)

LATES :)

[TrackZ]

Has anyone gotten a P360 to work with a PS2 Dual Shock? We finished our boxes last night, wired up one side to a PS2DS. All the buttons work and Start and Select, but the joystick is seriously crazy. It registers button pushes intermittently in addition to directions. We reverified all our solder points and solder finishes a dozen times, but everything looks perfect.

[MalignantMouse]

is x-arcade still selling buttons and competition sticks? i can't find that stuff on their website, all i see is premade sticks for 1 and 2 players.

where else might i find competition sticks? and their buttons were sold for really cheap. happ's comp buttons are so expensive. dammit.

[Dc1]

hi i have a 2 player x-arcade and i like some help finetuning it

i really have trouble doing half circle motions on it (and circle also ) it's just weird and loose

I try the tip on how to bend the plate on their website but i think that make the stick even worse

I play mvc2 alot and sentinel 's fly mode require alot of half circle motion so it really annoying to not able to input the motion correctly

I was wondering if there's any way to make the stick more sensitive and better at doing the half-circle motion

ps. in case this was mentioned already in this threadi'm sorry , but please post a link to that thread thanks

[Freakshow]

Originally posted by armorK_I_N_G
is a Redoctane stick any good itself?!

Hey. I just bought the Red Octane about 2 weeks ago and let me tell you my experiences with it.
PROS: The box is well made and sturdy. Also the price is good for what it is. The stick is a 360 (I think) and the buttons are a little stiff, but that was fixed after about a week of regular play.

CONS: I dunno if this is a problem with all of their sticks or if mine was just bad. It was VERY, VERY hard to hit diagonals with the stick. I could not perform a fireball to save my life in GGXX so that ticked me off a bit. Also, they decided to disable the L1 and L2 triggers. Ok for some, but it gets annoying having to unplug your stick and plug in a DualShock just to pick an EX character. That made me real mad at first, but things got better after I switched the stick out for an Ultimate (personal preference)

OVERALL: If I just recieved a bad stick than I would say that people on a budget like myself should try this one out, but I cannot tell you anything else due to my bad experience. But, I have dealt with them in the past for buying 2 DDR Ignition pads. The quality and service I recieved when dealing with that makes me believe that I had gotten a bad stick. Hope this helps you out.

[damion]

Originally posted by MalignantMouse
is x-arcade still selling buttons and competition sticks? i can't find that stuff on their website, all i see is premade sticks for 1 and 2 players.

I noticed that too on their website. But for some reason they sell them on ebay. its real cheap too. 2 joysticks and 20 buttons for $19.95.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3213580073&category=13718

[m3talslug]

Originally posted by Freakshow


Hey. I just bought the Red Octane about 2 weeks ago and let me tell you my experiences with it.
PROS: The box is well made and sturdy. Also the price is good for what it is. The stick is a 360 (I think) and the buttons are a little stiff, but that was fixed after about a week of regular play.


They don't use a 360 in it.

[sevenD_eight]

To tell you the truth, buy happ controls sticks and buttons...may be a little more expensive, but definately worth the money. Theres people on this thread swapping out x-arcade parts for genuine happ controls for a reason. You pay for what you get, on a budget? wait a lil longer and save. I'm not saying get a P360(awesome tho!), atleast get a comp. stick and happ buttons. Its seriously worth it!!!IMO

[Dc1]

Originally posted by sevenD_eight
To tell you the truth, buy happ controls sticks and buttons...may be a little more expensive, but definately worth the money. Theres people on this thread swapping out x-arcade parts for genuine happ controls for a reason. You pay for what you get, on a budget? wait a lil longer and save. I'm not saying get a P360(awesome tho!), atleast get a comp. stick and happ buttons. Its seriously worth it!!!IMO
so it's possible to switch the x-arcade joystick with the one they sell at happs control? i thought x-arcade stick can't be replaced ..

if so, is the process complicated ?

which joystick from happs control do you recommend ?, which one is the best next to 360

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by TrackZ
Has anyone gotten a P360 to work with a PS2 Dual Shock? We finished our boxes last night, wired up one side to a PS2DS. All the buttons work and Start and Select, but the joystick is seriously crazy. It registers button pushes intermittently in addition to directions. We reverified all our solder points and solder finishes a dozen times, but everything looks perfect. OMG, THIS ALSO HAPPENED TO ME TOO....NO ONE COULD HELP ME FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEM....I KEPT GETTING VAGUE ANSWERS OR ANSWERS THAT I TRIED ALREADY................CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP.......I SPENT 70 BUCK ON SOME P360'S LAST MONTH ONLY TO HAVE THEM SIT ON MY DRESSER BECAUSE OF THE SAME EXACT SHIT DESCRIBED ABOVE.:mad: :fury:

[TrackZ]

After a few weeks of work, our custom sticks are looking good. Lots more electronics work to do though. Here's a quick view of the stick (this is 1 of 3 and they're all different art):

Picture (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdpyle1/images/Arcade%20Controller/Construction/Controls%20Arcade%2004.jpg)

We posted a very detailed web site that chronicles our work:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdpyle1/index.htm

I will be making regular updates to the site. There's no email link on the web page, but if anyone has any feedback or questions, feel free to PM me through these boards.

I'd also like to put out a general thanks to everyone that has contributed to this thread and these forums. It's been a great help, especially M3talslug.

[TrackZ]

One additional note, the page in my previous post (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdpyle1/index.htm) also has significant information on hacking a PS2 Dual Shock with a P360. We came to a pretty definitive conclusion that it cannot be done. It's all detailed in the Playstation Interfacing section (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdpyle1/controls_playstation.htm).

[Vinnyman]

so P360s won't work on the old PS2 dual shock? that sux...that's the one i have....plus, will they work on a MC DC dreampad?

[TrackZ]

The Dual Shock 2 controller released for the PS2 will not work. The original Dual Shock for the original Playstation will.

[m3talslug]

THe dual shock 2 will work. Although I did mine with a dual shock 1, several of my friends did it with the 2.

Originally posted by TrackZ
The Dual Shock 2 controller released for the PS2 will not work. The original Dual Shock for the original Playstation will.

[Stingray]

How did your friends hack the PS2 controller?

[m3talslug]

If you're hacking just the digital controls, it's pretty much IDENTICAL to a Dual Shock 1.

Originally posted by Stingray
How did your friends hack the PS2 controller?

[TrackZ]

The problem that we found with the PS2-P360 is that you're trying to wire a strictly digital switch with its own voltage requirements to an analog switch with different voltage requirements. With the PS2 controller, the only digital controls are Start, Select, and the Analog button. Everything else is analog with the variant voltage operation that the P360 can't do.

The only real chance that we saw would be to change what Vcc and Ground are wired to on the P360. I tried to wire the P360 with 3.3v on Vcc and then with the common line on the ground pin, but that didn't work.

I'd be real eager to see their wiring scheme.

[m3talslug]

Hmmm... I probably don't understand enough about electronics... but aren't the button operations from a "physical" standpoint digital? i.e. when you press UP, DOWN, etc <-- it's just a metal piece connecting two points. Although the operations on the PCB itself may be analog, all the button pressing is a "digital" operation, in the sense that you either have the circuit OPEN, or CLOSED. <-- there are no variants other than that (open or closed) with the directional controls or the X, O, Square, Triangle.

My understanding of the p360 was that the +5v was there just to power the photosensors.

The actual switch closing, triggered by a photosensor, would work just like closing a circuit with a button, microswtich, etc

Anyhow, I assume you got everything working with a PS1 dualshock instead.

How do you like the p360s? <-- I still prefer them to all of the other joysticks I've used.

Originally posted by TrackZ
The problem that we found with the PS2-P360 is that you're trying to wire a strictly digital switch with its own voltage requirements to an analog switch with different voltage requirements. With the PS2 controller, the only digital controls are Start, Select, and the Analog button. Everything else is analog with the variant voltage operation that the P360 can't do.

The only real chance that we saw would be to change what Vcc and Ground are wired to on the P360. I tried to wire the P360 with 3.3v on Vcc and then with the common line on the ground pin, but that didn't work.

I'd be real eager to see their wiring scheme.

[RANDoM_MAI]

I'm having a real hard time soldering on the ps dual shock controller. Its not like i haven't soldered before. i have soldered 3 of the psx 1000 controllers on cd visions page and i have soldered on some playstation ones. But for some reason i can't get the solder to stay on the controller with the wire. I even had my friend try. He has ,odded alot of ps2's and xbox. For some reason we just can't get the wire to stay on the ps1 dual shock controller. Do u have any advice/tips for me? is there anywhere i can get a pic of your soldering.

[donaldducktm]

there seems to be no help in this thread...i'll buy a mas stick for god's sake :rolleyes:

[S3nTiN3L]

here is my first custom made stick. hope you guyz injoy.
a little info:
took me about half a year but only becouse of my own lazyness.it has a ultimate softspring (its ok but i wanted a hard spring). compitition buttons (18 in all 6 red,6 blue,6 green) it has plexy glass on top and i usally switch pictures (right now its my powerpuff girl BG) but soon ill get something nicer looking like chunnie or I-no. it weighs about 10-15 pounds and its the shape of a mas stick. i used a quantum fighterspad (in which when i posted people said it was not useable) but i got it to work. in any case ive got some people that want to buy my stick so i might start makeing them and selling them.
anyways injoy

[S3nTiN3L]

and another

[S3nTiN3L]

here's more

[S3nTiN3L]

more

[S3nTiN3L]

last but not least

[m3talslug]

Sand down the contact point with some fine grit sandpaper. <-- sometimes even if you see clear copper, there may be a thin film that prevents the solder from sticking well.

Wipe it down with a cotton swab and apply some EXTRA flux. Give it another try.


Originally posted by RANDoM_MAI
I'm having a real hard time soldering on the ps dual shock controller. Its not like i haven't soldered before. i have soldered 3 of the psx 1000 controllers on cd visions page and i have soldered on some playstation ones. But for some reason i can't get the solder to stay on the controller with the wire. I even had my friend try. He has ,odded alot of ps2's and xbox. For some reason we just can't get the wire to stay on the ps1 dual shock controller. Do u have any advice/tips for me? is there anywhere i can get a pic of your soldering.

[Dreaded Fist]

Originally posted by RoTeNdO
For those of you interested in buying some parts and not having to worry about the minimum $$$ eBay has 20 buttons and 2 joysticks for only $19.95!!! quantities of 85!! BUY NOW option is available. happ sells one (1) joystick alone for about $12.75!! And here you are getting 2 and 20 pushbuttons!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13718&item=752072267 :D


I kno i'm late but DAMN!!! how can that be possible??? is there something wrong with the buttons?? I would hella buyt that if i didn already sent out 54$ for the same parts.

[FMJaguar]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist

I kno i'm late but DAMN!!! how can that be possible??? is there something wrong with the buttons?? I would hella buyt that if i didn already sent out 54$ for the same parts.

The parts on ebay are x-arcade joysticks and buttons, and that is their normal price (maybe $5 less in total, but that's about it). The price first attracted us to the sticks as we've been using them in our tournies for a few months and everyone has enjoyed them.

Happ has countered since then tho, offering their supers (essentially the same product), for $6.99 ea through 3/31. Since x-arcade does not offer convex buttons, we will be going through happ this time, i don't know what kinda sticks we are getting but we need the convex buttons for marvel/ggxx =P. The only happ stick i never tried is the super so maybe we'll go with those and i can let you know.

The x-arcade buttons have the resistance of a convex button, but are concave, so it makes them kind of awkward, for SF games they are good, but marvel players have expressed concern about them (when compared to convex buttons i mean).

I believe it's possible because they want to push the retail/joystick side of the buisness, so the parts they can sell cheaper.

[shiningsoul]

Okay, I've read through the entire thread now and I've cracked open my Interact Shadowblade.

I've noticed that each button and each direction on the crappy joystick has two wires connecting to it. I'm guessing that one of wires is the common ground and the other is the hot wire. I can't tell if every button direction needs a separate ground. Does anybody know? If there is a single ground, how can I find it? (I'm guessing I use a voltage multimeter but where would I place the contacts?) I'm trying to use Rotendo's Solder Free Method (page 8 if you have the default view).

I'm also wondering if there's any way to hook up a Perfect 360 using the shadowblade pcb. Anybody know? If not, I guess I'll get a 5v plug dealie from Radio Shack so I can have a separate power supply for the stick. If I'm going to do that, can anyone point me towards a site that'll help me get set up in doing so?

edit: Oops, I forgot to ask this question as well: how do I set up the start and select buttons without having to solder? I really don't want to solder (i.e. buy the equipment and materials and learn how to solder). On the shadowblade they are sorta connected to the pcb and I don't think there are any useable wires running from the start/select buttons.

[RANDoM_MAI]

ATTN Metalslug:

Before you said i can use the red wire from the offical psx controller for my +5v. It was only +3v . I was wondering if i can use a +3v from any controller and it will work. because i found a +3v in the psx1000 controller and i can solder on that thing just fine. btw i alrdy ruined my offical psx controller=(

Thanks for all the help
~RaNDoM

[Dreaded Fist]

Hmmm Oh well. It's not like I'm going to be making any more sticks after this.

Does anyone use terminal strips here? I remember there was a joystick building site that uses a terminal strip. I was wondering if that would make it possible to use 2 pcbs(psx/dc) with one set of buttons/stick.

[m3talslug]

Pin 5 on ANY ps1/ps2 controller will always be +3v. If you've found it on your psx1000 controller... you might as well give it a shot. I've never seen a psx1000 controller before but I'm pretty sure the 360s will hook up just fine.

Originally posted by RANDoM_MAI
ATTN Metalslug:

Before you said i can use the red wire from the offical psx controller for my +5v. It was only +3v . I was wondering if i can use a +3v from any controller and it will work. because i found a +3v in the psx1000 controller and i can solder on that thing just fine. btw i alrdy ruined my offical psx controller=(

Thanks for all the help
~RaNDoM

[TrackZ]

Does anyone know the difference in PCB styles between the:

1. Original PSX Gray Dual Shock 1
2. Newer PS One White Dual Shock 1

We need to hack 6 PS1 controllers for our sticks and I bought the newest colored PS One pads recently. They use the same plastic ribbon that the PS2 controllers use, but with a surface mounted connector with traces to small and close to solder to.

I need a PS1 controller that has the button contacts right on the PCB and not on the separate plastic filament, and before buying more sticks to rip apart, I really want to make sure I'm buying ones we can use. So, do both of those controllers have contact directly on the PCB without the plastic filament?

[TrackZ]

Nevermind, I'll answer my own question. :) I found the white Dual Shock 1's at Target. Just opened it up and it has a PCB that has regular contacts instead of the plastic. So, if anyone is looking to wire up new Dual Shock 1 controllers, make sure you buy the white ones and not the colored ones.

Also, to answer the question a few posts back, I would highly recommend using terminal strips. They'll make your life easier if you need to repair or replace anything later.

[shiningsoul]

I'm pretty sure you can hook up two pcbs to one terminal strip. For example, you have your DC and PSX stuff hooked to one side of the terminal/barrier strip and have the other side hooked to the buttons. I remember reading that if you do this you MUST NOT have both pcbs plugged into their respective console controller ports or else you're asking for trouble. I believe using barrier strips like this is how people accomplish multiple console sticks with a bunch of plugs sticking out of them (like the MAS stick).

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist
Hmmm Oh well. It's not like I'm going to be making any more sticks after this.

Does anyone use terminal strips here? I remember there was a joystick building site that uses a terminal strip. I was wondering if that would make it possible to use 2 pcbs(psx/dc) with one set of buttons/stick.

Question: Would an all aluminum casing work well for a joystick? I doubt there would be any heating problems (since I know of some friends who have aluminium casings on their PCs). My friend had the idea of doing an all aluminum casing for my next stick and says he can help me out. Anybody try this before or have any knowledge on the feasiblity of this project?

Also, can anyone answer my earlier questions about the shadowblade grounding/P360 issues?

[FMJaguar]

My cigarbob stick is psx/ss/snes, this was achieved by attaching connectors(molex) to each wiring, then attaching the female to the stick wiring, i just unplug one and plug in another. I would not recommend attaching more than one controller at a time, but i don't see where it would hurt i guess, as long as only one is plugged in.

[TrackZ]

Definitely don't go connecting multiple consoles with power on. You wouldn't want to multiplex on the terminal block either. There's better ways. You'll want to use some sort of standard connector, like the Molex ones mentioned. You could also use DB15 or DB25's for which cables are easy to find since they're standard computer cables.

Take a look at our page for info on how we hook everything up.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdpyle1/controls.htm

[J-ride]

I have a system that was wired 2 systems together straight up, and it works fine, but Ive tried to duplicate it, and I usually have to use the exact same controllers or something wierd will happen. Its such a pain in the ass at times, Ive been trying to learn how to do that molex version, and I am glad someone posted a good example. Nothing bad ever happened to my systems, but most of the other different controllers I have tried will do something crazy like pause the game when I push a diagonal, and Ive tested everything and It is not a mistake in soldering, because when I remove the other controller it would work fine, so I am definitely gonna jump on that example and figure that out. That is real hot, I like that.

[Zivilyn Bane]

Thanks for the help in this thread. :)

I used mostly CD_Vision's guide. Good stuff. I searched for a PSX-1000 pad, found several in my city, 9 bucks used tax inc.
I think the only mistake in his guide was the location of a start contact? I think his blue circle was actually on ground... other than that, perfect. Good guide. Thanks :)

Came to work tonight, drilled/soldered. All done the circuit part. Gonna clamp on some quick disconnects this weekend, order the parts... start making the box next week... should be done the materials next weekend (sooner if I wasn't so busy lately :( ), will just be a matter of screwing in the joystick and buttons, and having some games. :)

I need some help w/ box construction... might come on later with specifics...

Thanks again.


EDIT: What can you use to drill through 3/8'' Lexan? Same boring bit as the wood? I've never done anything with Lexan before...
Went out today, got the boring bit, some carriage bolts and some hinges...
Couldn't find quick disconnects for a reasonable price (25 bucks for 40?!?!)... will go to an electronics supply store early in the week.
Total cost so far: 11.something CDN

[Dreaded Fist]

I'm thinking about getting the x-arcade parts for future use. Has anyone use it b4? can you take pictures of the buttons and joystick from the inside?

Because even though 2 sticks and 20 buttons for $20 is a hell of a deal it won't do me anygood of the buttons/stick suck ass.

on another note: would it be advisable to print out some artwork on a sticker from kinkos and just stick it on the top? That would solve the problem of using plexi, and cracking it.

[Zivilyn Bane]

Total so far:

Buttons/joystick (1 joystick, 10 buttons)
65 bucks
PCB
10 bucks
RAndom parts (drill bit and some stuff)
12 bucks


87 so far... holy crap. Buttons seem like a rip off, damn Canada!

[Rei]

Originally posted by Zivilyn Bane

Couldn't find quick disconnects for a reasonable price (25 bucks for 40?!?!)... will go to an electronics supply store early in the week.

I get mine at fry's electronics. They have a box of 100 for 8 bucks. They also sell online. Here is the link, I think.
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/2604262

[One Eyed King]

Does anyone know if the Mad Catz Dual Force playstation 1 controller can be used as a solder free project?

[Ookima]

Alright...now that I know the 3.3v source works for 360s, which playstation pad do I use? the stand PSX one? or PSX Dual Shock? From the boards it seems like people are having problems with the PS2 Dualshock...so I am not even going to bother with that.

[sevenD_eight]

Originally posted by Ookima
Alright...now that I know the 3.3v source works for 360s, which playstation pad do I use? the stand PSX one? or PSX Dual Shock? From the boards it seems like people are having problems with the PS2 Dualshock...so I am not even going to bother with that.

use a 3rd party controller, much easy to solder on to.

i use interact ps 1 controllers on all my joysticks, and have never had any problems. I use it for ps1 and ps2, and i use and adpater for the DC. everything works perfectly and i only pay $5 for each new controller. You could go w/ an aftermarket ps1 dualshock to use the rumble for the 5v.Just look into it more, theres sites w/ exact controller hacks on there. Some w/ a step by step process. Look through other sites. theres links everywhere.

Originally posted by One Eyed King
Does anyone know if the Mad Catz Dual Force playstation 1 controller can be used as a solder free project?

regular controllers cannot be used for solder free projects, they dont have any wires you can use. You would need a pre-existing joystick to make a solder-less project(and would rip it apart for that matter).read more, it'll answer all of your basic questions.

[RANDoM_MAI]

YEAH!!

I finally got my p360 joystick working saturday. I used the same psx 1000 pad cd_vision uses. YOu can use the solder point right next to the black glob thing on the right side for the +5v.

Thanks for answering all my dumb questions metalslug.

i'm like to help the shoryuken ppl too.
IF anyone has any questions and doesn't feel like looking threw 34 pages you may pm me. i don't always check this thread.

Thanks again
~RaNDoM

[TrackZ]

Ookima, I would recommend going with 1st part hardware. A lot of people don't seem to care, but I personally am a stickler for using 1st party stuff. I read and heard about too many issues with 3rd party stuff.

If you or anyone plans to hack Playstation controllers. Again, if you are using a P360, you'll have to use PS1 controllers. I finished my hack on PS1 Dual Shocks this weekend. It's posted at the URL below. If you go 1st party, only try to hack the white one. Don't go for the colored (red, blue, etc) ones. They have different internal electronics that will make soldering a nightmare. The standard white ones are a piece of cake though.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdpyle1/controls_playstation.htm

[Ookima]

Trackz: WOW thanks...yeah I check your web site just yesterday and the PS1 sections still said "coming soon." Thanks for updating and the tips...once I get the parts from Happ in...its time to get started...

[Vinnyman]

can somebody post a url to find a PSX to DC converter.....or does anyone sell them anywhere locally? thnx.

[J-ride]

http://www.lik-sang.com
http://www.buyrite.net

I get mine from lik-sang, the site is being updated right now, so I couldnt get you the exact link.

[shiningsoul]

Alrighty, I've discovered that each button and direction on the Interact Shadowblade Arcade Stick has a separate ground. So, how would I go about hooking up a P360 to a pcb that has separate grounds for each direction? I recall that the P360 has only one ground so how do I connect my pcb to the P360?

Also, does anyone have any info on how to wire the Shadowblade start and select buttons? (They're actual buttons on a small metal cube that's attached to the pcb.)

And I know they posted lik-sang above, but their site was down and I was wondering if the product descriptions include what company controllers do their converters supports (i.e. if I buy one of their PS2 -> GC converters will it work with my Interact controller?).

[J-ride]

TrackZ: you do badass work, I want to look at your site some more, I am glad you showed how to do it with the plugs on your site, I had been wanting to try that, and I never got around to it. I feel a summer project!!!

[donaldducktm]

i know i've already asked J-Ride about this (and thanks for helping) but...

where can i find mad catz dreamcast controller?

i can't really get out of the house as much and it's just too much of a hassle. thanks

Edit: mind this post...i'mma go to a video games store :o

[Eradicus]

I've got a couple of questions for those who have hacked the Agetec/Sega stick, that I don't recall seeing mentioned here or on the sites I've checked.

1) Am I correct in assuming that there are 2 grounds on this stick? One for the buttons (black on the buttons/grey to the PCB) and one for the Joystick itself (black?) If that's correct, I assume I need to connect 2 grounds when I connect it to the arcade controls right?

2) I know that several people have had problems with this stick blowing out the controller port on the DC, and I know how to fix that, but have any of you who have hacked this stick had that problem after building your own? (and I don't mean by trying to install a P360 either) Is there anything on the PCB or something that could be changed to prevent having the blown controller port?

Any help would be appreciated. I've got two of these bad boys ($5 a pop) just waiting to have a better a life.

[donaldducktm]

could someone help me hack a QUANTAN DREAM PAD?

Cd_vision says it' not durable, but you guys might help ;)

[RANDoM_MAI]

Originally posted by Eradicus
I've got a couple of questions for those who have hacked the Agetec/Sega stick, that I don't recall seeing mentioned here or on the sites I've checked.

1) Am I correct in assuming that there are 2 grounds on this stick? One for the buttons (black on the buttons/grey to the PCB) and one for the Joystick itself (black?) If that's correct, I assume I need to connect 2 grounds when I connect it to the arcade controls right?

2) I know that several people have had problems with this stick blowing out the controller port on the DC, and I know how to fix that, but have any of you who have hacked this stick had that problem after building your own? (and I don't mean by trying to install a P360 either) Is there anything on the PCB or something that could be changed to prevent having the blown controller port?

Any help would be appreciated. I've got two of these bad boys ($5 a pop) just waiting to have a better a life.

You only need to have one ground. Its really easy to find beacuse its the wire that is linked to all the buttons. Just find the grouns and link that to allt he buttons.

Also ppl only blow up there ports trying to install p360s. you won't have that problem if you are not installing a p360.

hope that helps.

~RaNDoM

[RANDoM_MAI]

Originally posted by shiningsoul
Alrighty, I've discovered that each button and direction on the Interact Shadowblade Arcade Stick has a separate ground. So, how would I go about hooking up a P360 to a pcb that has separate grounds for each direction? I recall that the P360 has only one ground so how do I connect my pcb to the P360?

Also, does anyone have any info on how to wire the Shadowblade start and select buttons? (They're actual buttons on a small metal cube that's attached to the pcb.)

And I know they posted lik-sang above, but their site was down and I was wondering if the product descriptions include what company controllers do their converters supports (i.e. if I buy one of their PS2 -> GC converters will it work with my Interact controller?).

U don't need to use all the grounds. Its all common. You can just link one of the grouns wires and daisy link that shit up to all your buttons and p360.

i never had a shadowblade stick so i'm not sure hat you are talking about for the start and select.

liksang is up:D

hope i helped.

~RaNDoM

[Vinnyman]

i actually got the P360's to work on my ps2 stick using the ps1 ds white controller. mad props to Trackz. but i have just one more question, what point on the controller do i use for the +5v? i'm currently using the red wire from the controller but it reads +5.5v.......i'm surprise that it still worked but i'm just concerned to whether or not it will blow out my port whenever i hook up my other P360 (twin stick). just a confirmation would help, otherwise i'll assume i'm using the correct point on the pad to draw the +5v from.

[Tigerstile]

Anybody with skills able to build me just the wood part of the stick with the holes cut out?I can do everything but that part.

[TrackZ]

Vinnyman, you should be fine with that connection. The P360 will support a range of voltages, it doesn't have to be spot on 5v. I believe we're connected to the same wire. It's the red line (4th pin) from the controller cord.

As far as connecting 2 P360's to the same line, I wouldn't expect that to be a problem. I drive each P360 in my controller seperately, but it's a 2 player stick. I can give you a guarantee though cause I haven't tried it.

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by TrackZ
Vinnyman, you should be fine with that connection. The P360 will support a range of voltages, it doesn't have to be spot on 5v. I believe we're connected to the same wire. It's the red line (4th pin) from the controller cord.

As far as connecting 2 P360's to the same line, I wouldn't expect that to be a problem. I drive each P360 in my controller seperately, but it's a 2 player stick. I can give you a guarantee though cause I haven't tried it.
but will a ps2 support 2 p360's running at the same time without having the port blow out? i'm guessing so. thnx for all the help.

[Zivilyn Bane]

Question for the wood/Lexan pro's.


I have my MDF cut the way I want it, and I need to drill button holes.
My questions:

A) What's the normal capcom spacing for button holes? (I'll probably find out before this is answered, I'm sure it's all over the place, I'll look soon :) )

B) So I've got my wood, and I'm going to take it into get some lexan cut to a nice fit. Should I cut the wood, then the Lexan against the wood? Should I wait and drill both? I'm using a 1 1/8'' boring bit. Will that even cut through Lexan?
Which order should I cut these?

Thanks


Ziv

[S3nTiN3L]

Originally posted by donaldducktm
could someone help me hack a QUANTAN DREAM PAD?

Cd_vision says it' not durable, but you guys might help ;)

its simple..insted or wireing the C and Z buttons wire the L and R buttons (the ones that have 3 spots to solder) and run the 3 wires to the 3 conections on the cherry switches.
if you need more help just ask and ill go more into it

[Vinnyman]

on more question, if i were to make a DC stick with P360's, which one do i go with? i tried the MC dreampad but it did the same thing the PS2 DS controller did. any suggestions?

[Dreaded Fist]

unveiling my creation is the Ment.....stickkkk

this thing works great.

www.geocities.com/konxept/bigstick.jpg

and a smaller version for my friend

www.geocities.com/konxept/mikestick.jpg

[Tigerstile]

DF:Can't see anything on those links dude.Holla

[TrackZ]

Bane:

Normal spacing for buttons is 1 1/2" on center. You can take a look at the layout and dimensions we used in the Construction section of my website. Use the link on the bar below.

For your drilling steps, I would recommend either drilling together or drill the wood, fasten down the lexan, and then drill the lexan. Whatever you do, lining the stuff up and not having it move on you is the priority. You can use the wood bit you have to drill the lexan just fine.

Vinnyman:

I think you'll be fine with running 2 P360's off a single PS2 controller port.

Regarding the DC, we used standard Sega pads. We bought them brand new at EB for $3.99 each. They were super easy to hook up. I'm partial to using only first-party hardware. They work with our P360's just fine. I hope to have the DC interfacing section of the web site done in the next week or so. We're going to do some slick stuff with the project boxes to provide VMU access.

[Dreaded Fist]

Originally posted by Tigerstile
DF:Can't see anything on those links dude.Holla

you have to copy and paste it.

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by TrackZ
Bane:



Vinnyman:

I think you'll be fine with running 2 P360's off a single PS2 controller port.

Regarding the DC, we used standard Sega pads. We bought them brand new at EB for $3.99 each. They were super easy to hook up. I'm partial to using only first-party hardware. They work with our P360's just fine. I hope to have the DC interfacing section of the web site done in the next week or so. We're going to do some slick stuff with the project boxes to provide VMU access.
thanks alot dood.

[Tigerstile]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist


you have to copy and paste it.


noooooo.....its doesn't work.Well the bottom one doesn't.The top one does.It goes to the geocities page and says its not available.

[Vinnyman]

where are the points in the standard DC pad? i had the pic but i lost it. does anyone have a pic that shows you what points to solder to? thnx (i know i ask a lot of questions, but it's better to be safe than sorry).

[Zivilyn Bane]

Thanks.
Picking up my Lexan tommorow... usually it's while-you-wait, but they're sorta busy. Sucky...

I'll start drilling tommorow. Might drill carriage colts, then drill button holes.


Going to be soooo long before I can get my stick/buttons... stupid Canada.

[ssjbrydon]

hey can anyone tell me how easy it is to mod a red octane stick?? im gettin one, at work we have some 8-ways lying around that i can prolly get from the manager and im also hoping i can change the buttons also?



also whats the best Ps2 to DC converter? i need to play my DC with the stick as well.




any help would be tremendously appreciated.



lol @ vinny, just beat on that shit man, thats what u should have done saturday on the 2 player sticks.:D

[Dreaded Fist]

ssjbrydon: It should be really easy, if the holes are standard size (1 1/8")

All you have to do is swap out the stick/buttons and replace it with new ones. There is a pcb inside the stick, its in a square shape.

btw. does that mean you are not buying my stick anymore?

[iNH]

alright i have one question since im thinking of replacing my happ ultimate 8 way with a korean stick.

are all bases the same height/width?

i dont want to have to drill new holes for this stick once i get it.

oh and if its possible, can i just put the stick itself into my ultimate base?

thanks people.

[Dc1]

can anyone tell me how to replace my x-arcade stick with a competition happs 8-way stick?

[ssjbrydon]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist
ssjbrydon: It should be really easy, if the holes are standard size (1 1/8")

All you have to do is swap out the stick/buttons and replace it with new ones. There is a pcb inside the stick, its in a square shape.

btw. does that mean you are not buying my stick anymore?




lol well im looking at spending only 60 total for a stick + dc converter w/shipping. ur stick was 70 which is a nice price, but i need to get a converter with that still. i havent bought the RO yet but im still thinking about what i should get.

[Zivilyn Bane]

This is what I assume to do:
Drill holes for bolts, file corners so carriage bolt grips.


That's how, right? Just dbl checking... :P

EDIT: done top... need to file holes for carriage bolts to be complete.
Capcom layout w/ one extra button on the bottom row and GGXX style respect button :) suh-weet. Lexan/MDF drill super nice... thanks for the help

[Mulligan]

i read thru most of the thread and im jes wondering, has any tried getting to get a carpenter or some1 professional make a box for you??

i know nothing about woodworking but im not gonna be satisfied with jes a rectangle box so how much u suppose it would cost to get some1 make one for you??

[sonikku]

im sure someone has. it wouldnt hurt doing so actually. you could probably make teh box look even better if you actually did

[Rei]

Just a note on the lexan. I live in Los Angeles, and I happened to go to two different Home Depots that were about 3 miles apart. Just between the two different stores there was a 2 dollar difference per ft.

Did some more research, and it looks like prices on Lexan vary quite sharply from place to place.

Buyer beware.

[ashurax]

Anyone know the mounting dimensions for the Happs P360 joystick and where to drill the holes for the carriage bolts? Are they the same as other Happ joysticks (i.e. competition, ultimate)? I'm asking this because the Happ website doesn't give the measurements of where to drill the holes, and I am currently waiting on my P360 joystick in the mail. Thanks in advance.

[ssjbrydon]

Originally posted by Mulligan
i read thru most of the thread and im jes wondering, has any tried getting to get a carpenter or some1 professional make a box for you??

i know nothing about woodworking but im not gonna be satisfied with jes a rectangle box so how much u suppose it would cost to get some1 make one for you??


this is my biggest concern if i were to make a stick, and the wiring of course.

[sevenD_eight]

Originally posted by ashurax
Anyone know the mounting dimensions for the Happs P360 joystick and where to drill the holes for the carriage bolts? Are they the same as other Happ joysticks (i.e. competition, ultimate)? I'm asking this because the Happ website doesn't give the measurements of where to drill the holes, and I am currently waiting on my P360 joystick in the mail. Thanks in advance.

since it your first time putting in the stick..i would suggest you wait for the stick to come in.align the stick base properly and mark your drill holes. doing otherwise may lead to excess holes in your wood, misalignment, etc.

[FragMasterGen]

Originally posted by ashurax
Anyone know the mounting dimensions for the Happs P360 joystick and where to drill the holes for the carriage bolts? Are they the same as other Happ joysticks (i.e. competition, ultimate)? I'm asking this because the Happ website doesn't give the measurements of where to drill the holes, and I am currently waiting on my P360 joystick in the mail. Thanks in advance.

yup, same dimensions. i also started with the comp, then got a 360 but it doesnt work. the voltage for the 360 is +5 but my game pad has 3.5 or something like that. anyone else have this problem?

also, what thickness did u guys get for your layer of lexan on top?

im thinkin 1/8th inch would be good, not sure though.

[ssjbrydon]

where can i get an old agetec stick from? if i decide to make my own stick i dont feel like soldering cuz i know i will fuck up like i did with @ work with final furlong headbars......................






edit: what about psx 2000's? i hear they are good??????

[KYO84]

hi guys this is great thread keep it going.

this is my first post on this thread but ive been reading through it for quite some time now.
i have a question im going to start building my dreamcast stick tommrow i almost have all the materials for it,im using the dc gamepad for my pcb.
my question is i have the ultimate joystick from happcontrols and was reading in the the early pages of this thread that the ultimate stick sucks for this project.whats you opinion about the stick and what problems have you had with it.becuase if it sucks that bad ill just order the competion stick instead.

thanks in advance ill be sure to post a pic of my joystick in a week or so when its done.^_^

[RANDoM_MAI]

Originally posted by KYO84
hi guys this is great thread keep it going.

this is my first post on this thread but ive been reading through it for quite some time now.
i have a question im going to start building my dreamcast stick tommrow i almost have all the materials for it,im using the dc gamepad for my pcb.
my question is i have the ultimate joystick from happcontrols and was reading in the the early pages of this thread that the ultimate stick sucks for this project.whats you opinion about the stick and what problems have you had with it.becuase if it sucks that bad ill just order the competion stick instead.

thanks in advance ill be sure to post a pic of my joystick in a week or so when its done.^_^

For the project it doesn't really matter.
Both the ulitmate and competition have the same holes for carriage bolts.
The difference is when you playw ith them. To me there really isnt much of a difference but to some ppl the ulimate feels cheaper.

The ulimate stick is used in most arcades.
hope that helps

~RaNDoM

[Buddhistic]

fuck... i didn't think so many people would wanna make one.... i only did it to save money.... foos be doin it liek a fuckin hobby n shit... DON'T MAKE JOYSTICK BUILDING LOOK LIEK IT'S A GEEK THING... (i still wanna make sticks =P):p

i jus build a stick... not turn it into furniture for god sakes...:lame:

[Hayabusa]

I used to own a suh-weet 2P X-arcade stick for my PC/PS2. It was modded big time with all Happ Comp. buttons and stick. It had light up buttons and a new template covered in lexan. To save space, I sold it and bought an X-arcade 1P unit for my Xbox/PS2/PC. I upgraded all the goodies to Happ, but for some reason I friggin hate it. I hate the design and do not feel like modding it further.

I do not understand why, but I cannot do anything properly with this new stick on my Xbox. Moves like fireballs NEVER seem to be reliable and do not get me started on Supers or combos. I have read that there is a known latency problem with the Xbox X-Arc adapter. I am hoping that is it, but I have a serious interest in a MAS Systems instead with a P360.

If you own a MAS or have used a P360 please tell me what you think about it. It just seems that it would be more "accurate" without having switches and would more resemble the digital reliablity. (optical sensors)

[Zivilyn Bane]

It's such a pain getting perfect cuts without table saw.......

hopefully I get my buttons soon. I can't do lot of stuff on a pad. :(

[taiji]

noob question here:

is it possible to replace the buttons in the agetec ? (ie. different color jpn buttons)

[hadoken king]

where do you get your supplies? and wiring and stuff? can i make a custom one from a crappy pelican one?

[Mulligan]

Originally posted by Rei
Just a note on the lexan. I live in Los Angeles, and I happened to go to two different Home Depots that were about 3 miles apart. Just between the two different stores there was a 2 dollar difference per ft.

Did some more research, and it looks like prices on Lexan vary quite sharply from place to place.

Buyer beware.

is lake balboa in the sanfernando valley (im assuming it is) neway if u do live in the valley can u tell me which place had the cheapest lexan prices??

[Dc1]

Originally posted by Hayabusa
I used to own a suh-weet 2P X-arcade stick for my PC/PS2. It was modded big time with all Happ Comp. buttons and stick. It had light up buttons and a new template covered in lexan. To save space, I sold it and bought an X-arcade 1P unit for my Xbox/PS2/PC. I upgraded all the goodies to Happ, but for some reason I friggin hate it. I hate the design and do not feel like modding it further.

I do not understand why, but I cannot do anything properly with this new stick on my Xbox. Moves like fireballs NEVER seem to be reliable and do not get me started on Supers or combos. I have read that there is a known latency problem with the Xbox X-Arc adapter. I am hoping that is it, but I have a serious interest in a MAS Systems instead with a P360.

If you own a MAS or have used a P360 please tell me what you think about it. It just seems that it would be more "accurate" without having switches and would more resemble the digital reliablity. (optical sensors)

can you tell me how you modded your x-arcade, can i change the joystick out for a competition one , I keep asking this question but no one's answering

[Eradicus]

yeah, you can replace the joystick in the X-arcade with a competition. you can also replace the buttons, and since they used quick disconnects it's fairly easy to do. It does get to be a little difficult to get your fingers between some of the buttons to loosen or tighten them, but it's not too bad. Also their wiring is really messy (at least in mine) so I would suggest only removing one thing at a time and keeping the switches attached to the wires until you're ready to replace them (if you decide to swap switches too), also I marked the 4 switches for the joystick with a pencil so I could remember where they should be on the new stick.

On another note... the only downside to getting my custom stick done right now is that there is NO PLACE in my town that carries .187 disconnects for .22 guage wire. they carry the .270 for .22's and .187 for .16 but not what I need. Hell, I spent one whole day going to Lowe's, Home Depot, Radio Shack, etc.

[Dc1]

Originally posted by Eradicus
yeah, you can replace the joystick in the X-arcade with a competition. you can also replace the buttons, and since they used quick disconnects it's fairly easy to do. It does get to be a little difficult to get your fingers between some of the buttons to loosen or tighten them, but it's not too bad. Also their wiring is really messy (at least in mine) so I would suggest only removing one thing at a time and keeping the switches attached to the wires until you're ready to replace them (if you decide to swap switches too), also I marked the 4 switches for the joystick with a pencil so I could remember where they should be on the new stick.

On another note... the only downside to getting my custom stick done right now is that there is NO PLACE in my town that carries .187 disconnects for .22 guage wire. they carry the .270 for .22's and .187 for .16 but not what I need. Hell, I spent one whole day going to Lowe's, Home Depot, Radio Shack, etc.

thank you for replying , I think I will only switch out the joystick because I think the button are pretty good on the x arcade

also what's a quick disconnect ? is that somthing to do with the button cause I don't need to mess with that ,

but anyway thanks for replying

[Rei]

Originally posted by Mulligan


is lake balboa in the sanfernando valley (im assuming it is) neway if u do live in the valley can u tell me which place had the cheapest lexan prices??
Yes, Lake Balboa is north of Encino, West of Van Nuys and East of Reseda. The cheapest that I found was at the Van Nuys Home Depot on the corner of Roscoe and Balboa. I haven't checked the entire valley out, but I have checked around the North Hollywood - > Van Nuys area.

[Buddhistic]

ok... i think LEXAN is cheap..... 2.00 for a 9 x 13 sheet.... i dunno what is cheap to ya'lls, but who cares... it's worth EVERY PENNY BROKE ASS BITCHES!! lol I'LL BUY YOU A SHEET... JUS PAY ME INTEREST WHEN YOU CAN :bluu: UNLESS YOU WANNA USE SHIT THAT'LL crack... i suggest putting all your arcade money aside and BY LEXAN...


you can thank me for starting the LEXAN craze... :p

WHAT HAVE I GOTTEN YOU ADDICTED TO?? :eek:

(i jus liek them faces... :rolleyes: )

[One Eyed King]

Can anyone give me a step by step link on how to hack a mad catz psx dual force controller (the ones that come in various transparent colors) using a p360? Can I just follow the normal psx controller hack or is mad catz different? I've looked through this thread several times but iam still confused.

thanx

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by One Eyed King
Can anyone give me a step by step link on how to hack a mad catz psx dual force controller (the ones that come in various transparent colors) using a p360? Can I just follow the normal psx controller hack or is mad catz different? I've looked through this thread several times but iam still confused.

thanx
the only controllers that will work with a P360's is the PS1 DualShock SONY BRAND (white).....and supposely, the psx1000<-----never seen these before.....iirc, the mad catz psx DF isn't compatible with P360's cuz i tried that already....NEVER use any PS2 controllers for P360's.

no in regards on hacking it, yes, it's exactly same...the only difference is finding the +5v for the P360 itself. assuming that you will use the PS1 DS, simply solder the red wire from the P360 to the soldering point on the PCB pad where the red wire from the PS1 DS meets (match the red wire from the P360's to the red wire from the controller)....here's the link.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdpyle1/controls_playstation.htm

you should find your answer toward the bottom of this page.

[FragMasterGen]

fuck, sony ps1 controllers are a bitch to solder on, did ya'l drill wholes and put the wire throught the whole right next to the contact point?

and how thick is the lexan from home depot?

[Mulligan]

Originally posted by Rei

Yes, Lake Balboa is north of Encino, West of Van Nuys and East of Reseda. The cheapest that I found was at the Van Nuys Home Depot on the corner of Roscoe and Balboa. I haven't checked the entire valley out, but I have checked around the North Hollywood - > Van Nuys area.

thx

also about lexan how thick a pice should we get?? cause when i went to home depot they were pretty thick but i dont remember the exact measurement

[Rei]

It depends on your taste. Remember, the overlay on the mASS sticks is just lamination, and even that holds up (for a while at least). I go with as thin as possible. Go to an arcade and check out the thickness on the sheets there and pick one that you like. Then measure the depth/thickness.

[RANDoM_MAI]

Originally posted by Vinnyman

the only controllers that will work with a P360's is the PS1 DualShock SONY BRAND (white).....and supposely, the psx1000<-----never seen these before.....iirc, the mad catz psx DF isn't compatible with P360's cuz i tried that already....NEVER use any PS2 controllers for P360's.

no in regards on hacking it, yes, it's exactly same...the only difference is finding the +5v for the P360 itself. assuming that you will use the PS1 DS, simply solder the red wire from the P360 to the soldering point on the PCB pad where the red wire from the PS1 DS meets (match the red wire from the P360's to the red wire from the controller)....here's the link.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdpyle1/controls_playstation.htm

you should find your answer toward the bottom of this page.

The psx1000 does work:D
Use the solder point on the right side right next to the block glob thing that protects the cpu.

Its only a 3.3v but it works. i think any controller can power a p360. all you need is a 3.3v or more. if you have a psx1000 and need a pic i will take one and post it.

~RaNDoM

[Eradicus]

Originally posted by Dc1


also what's a quick disconnect ?


The quick disconnect is what is attaching the wire to the switch. It's just crimped on the end of the wire and slides onto the contact of the switch allowing easy removal and requiring no solder.

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by RANDoM_MAI


The psx1000 does work:D
Use the solder point on the right side right next to the block glob thing that protects the cpu.

Its only a 3.3v but it works. i think any controller can power a p360. all you need is a 3.3v or more. if you have a psx1000 and need a pic i will take one and post it.

~RaNDoM
no, not all controllers will work....all PS2 controllers are analog, touch sensitive. it's a hassle to explain, but the P360's hate touch sensitive.......everytime you connect the +5v wire, it activates everything.....i understand why this happens but i don't feel like explaining it. :wasted:

[TrackZ]

I've made some updates to our controller construction site. In addition to various corrections, I've updated some photos, added an email link if anyone has questions, and also have data for Dreamcast controller interfacing. I need a few more pictures still, but the content is there.

In the next week or so, I plan to do the following:
- Get some more photos in the DC and PS interface sections.
- Start on Sega Saturn hacking information.
- Add detailed information on how we added artwork to the interface boxes (see the PS section for an example).

In the next month, I'll be:
- Adding Xbox controller hacking info.
- Adding a cost section.

If anyone has some feedback or questions they'd like to see answered, please send me an email and I'll get it added to the site.

Take a look:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdpyle1/index.htm

[Tricky AB]

Nice work on the joysticks...:eek: they look SWEET!!!:D

[ShoryukenFury]

Is there anyway to do a solderless X-Box stick. I can barely operate a goddamn electric toothbrush without injuring myself, and If I had to solder someone would lose an eye. I read something about using Quick Disconnect doodads with a Reflex, but the site wasn't entirely clear on how that is accomplished. So anyone know anything about this, I really don't want to spend 6 hours in the emergency room due to a soldering mishap :mad:

[TrackZ]

That's funny. :D Unfortunately though, I doubt it, unless you would look to using arcade sticks and you get lucky with how they're designed. Pretty much any gamepad is going to require soldering.

[ShoryukenFury]

Alright, if this no soldering shit is a no go for a custom X-Box stick, than I guess I will just shell out the money for an X-Arcade and replace the stick and buttons.

[Fulg0re]

I'm planning on making an X box stick, i plan on taking apart an X box controler, from what i am reading it's best to use 3rd party (i'm new to this by the way), and using an old Dreamcast 2 player arcade joystick, the parts on that are arcade parts?

any suggestions?

either that or i'm gona start form scratch and make my own box and everything..

I don't know where to start..

[One Eyed King]

thanx for the help vinnyman. hopfully i can put this damn thing together in one piece soon but ya spank you all for the useful info posted

[ssjbrydon]

whats the best PS2 to DC convertor?


also what width should i place between each button?

[Ryu888]

Those of you interested in the X-arcade and it's support for many consoles with the switched out competition buttons and stick might do well to take a look at this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3016020331

Just helping out. :)

[_MJ_]

so is those redoctane sticks good or what?

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Sup you foos! I'm back home from training, so what's been up? Now I have to get back at finishing a few sticks for people that were on my list before I left, but anyway.... I got to know what you all been working on. Later

[KYO84]

good to hear from you again RoTeNdO. your previous post on the early pages of this thread helped me out alot in getting started building my stick.thanks

[sevenD_eight]

Originally posted by KYO84
good to hear from you again RoTeNdO. your previous post on the early pages of this thread helped me out alot in getting started building my stick.thanks

hell yea!:cool: much props Rotendo. i would prolly have shelled out over $100 for a mas w/ adapters...

thanks for all your help and this thread..i've done a few sticks..but theres more on the way..laters

[sevenD_eight]

heres my latest creation...the pic isnt that great kuz the light was bad..but the graphics are a lot nicer that..i'll try and get a better picture laters on..see yah!!

[Heihachi]

does x-arcade use quick disconnects and .187 connector size

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by sevenD_eight
heres my latest creation...the pic isnt that great kuz the light was bad..but the graphics are a lot nicer that..i'll try and get a better picture laters on..see yah!!

Very nice work sevenD_eight, love the artwork design!

Heihachi: I do belive that the xarcade uses quick disconnects aka .187 female. I don't have one, but I do know for a fact that they do not solder their wires onto the switches like MAS does. Anyone that owns an X and have opened theirs up, confirm this if you like, thanks.

[_MJ_]

Originally posted by _MJ_
so is those redoctane sticks good or what?



?

[Vinnyman]

Originally posted by One Eyed King
thanx for the help vinnyman. hopfully i can put this damn thing together in one piece soon but ya spank you all for the useful info posted
no problem buddy......that's what the thread is for afterall.:cool:

[Nile]

Hey guys I’ve got a problem with my SAV. For about 3 months now it only loads up or works about ½ the time. Ill plug it in and get no response, then restart the DC or PS2 and it might start to work. Also more recently it has started to go out on me in the middle of play. Given the money I spent on the stick I would really like any ideas on how to fix it. I’ve never worked on a stick but I did check the wiring and blew out any dust (of which there wasn’t really any). Any ideas? Thanks in advance

[LotusJuggalo17]

Question about third party controllers...
I have read in old Gamepro magazines and a few sources on the internet that third party controllers aren't the healthiest for your console. Like it may reprogram your controller ports to make the controller ports only use those controllers.

One more question...
How exactly do you hook up TWO controllers to one set of buttons and sticks? Like a DC controller and PSX controller to one set of sticks and buttons. Thanks

[Heihachi]

RoTeNdO: one of the people who i played with wants to replace his x-arcade stick with comp. it should be easy to replace with quick disconnects. thanks

I am curious about the X-arcade delay with using adaptors and wonder if my PS2 to DC adaptor has any delay so what I did is test it. I found out that my regular DC pad is faster than my PS2 MAS stick with adaptor.

I test it with cvs2 practice mode, what I did is pick 2 ryu’s and I set the 2p side to human with a regular DC pad and 1p as a PS2 MAS stick with an adaptor. Then I try to face the two ryu’s as close as possible and press jab at the same time on both 1p & 2p(if there is no delay both ryu’s should hit each other at the same time). The dc pad end up always hitting the other ryu, a regular DC pad is way faster than PS MAS stick with an Adaptor. Then I try using PS2 pad with an adaptor and DC pad, its not as bad as the PS2 MAS stick with an adaptor. I wonder if the MAS pcb cause some delay or the micro switch itself cause some delays.

In incuriosity I tested a PS2 MAS stick with a PS2 pad and the results are about the same but the PS2 pad is slightly faster than a regular PS2 MAS stick. to be honest I can't really tell on this one

[Ultima-X]

what is the SAV stick website?

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by Ultima-X
what is the SAV stick website?

Check the first page of this post to find the url.

[ssjbrydon]

whats the easiest way to test for buttons when i find the ground?

[Ultima-X]

Hey Rotendo its not there.

[MegamanDS]

my friend wants to make an arcade stick. he has all the parts, he is making it out of a dreamcast controller buttons and stuff. he cant find out how to put the L and R buttons since it has no wire or anything.

help??

[Rei]

Originally posted by LotusJuggalo17
Question about third party controllers...
I have read in old Gamepro magazines and a few sources on the internet that third party controllers aren't the healthiest for your console. Like it may reprogram your controller ports to make the controller ports only use those controllers.

One more question...
How exactly do you hook up TWO controllers to one set of buttons and sticks? Like a DC controller and PSX controller to one set of sticks and buttons. Thanks
1. Smoking to much pot makes you paranoid.

2. Either hardwire them both to the buttons, in which case you have to be very careful. Do not have the stick plugged into both systems at the same time. Or, you can wire arcade controlls into some sort of harness that disconnects, such as molex, dsubs, barrier strips, etc, then connect the pcbs to the other side of the harness, and connect whichever one you want to use.

Edit: Link (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?&threadid=467)

[Mulligan]

im jes curious but what happens when hardwire 2 controllers to ur stick and then connect it to 2 systems??

[Rei]

Originally posted by Mulligan
im jes curious but what happens when hardwire 2 controllers to ur stick and then connect it to 2 systems??
Hard to explain, but I will give a rough idea. You end up providing two or more active grounds and lots of weird stuff starts happening. Then you end up with the headaches that have plagued random mai.

[ssjbrydon]

how and the hell do i test for points after i soldered a wire to my ground???????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[J-ride]

What do you mean test for points? I just find the ground and just follow the wires around the pad to figure out which buttons are which?

[ssjbrydon]

im working with a ps2 mad catz......and ive gotten 2 ppl to try and help my but to no luck, im still trying to find them. it all looks simple. there my ground, its soldered already, then theres 4 black strips on each side, and some small circle solid silver points. now i placed my ground wire thats soldered in, to a point on the pad where the button/direction point is suppose to be and nothing happens.......

[J-ride]

If you could get a good pic, I could probably help you alot more.

[KylonCocalina]

quick question about making an arcade stick for a PS2 console. The analog sticks. Do I just leave those alone or am I supposed to hook something up to them? Normally when I play MvC2 on my PS2 I just use the Dpad and don't even touch the left analog.

[Ensenga]

Okay, this is my FIRST even messing with electronics but I've came pretty far:p. My question is about soldering, I have all of the buttons connected and the joystick and even the layout but HO