The Official Custom Arcade Sticks Thread

[TripleAgent]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist


yeah dude, just hook it up with a psx pad then get converters, you can get all kinds of converters from www.levelsix.com

OK, so is there a guide anywhere for this particular stick's innards, and do you have any specific suggestions for adding it?

[ElvenShadow]

I just recently finished making a custom arcade stick
(picture below)
http://members.aol.com/elvenshadow/ggxxcustom.jpg

heh... my stick was working just fine all day, I was playing a little earlier to mess around and test it out, later I went out to some girls house for a bit, I come home, play a bit more, still working fine. Then suddenly as I am playing I notice that my character starts jumping for no reason over and over.... so it seems that somehow the up command is stuck on auto rapid fire or something. So I tried to un solder that solder point for the up direction, then it stopped, then i soldered it back up, did this a few times, and then suddenly I noticed that after I left it plugged in for like a minute or 2 WITHOUT the solder point connected, it still was jumping over and over, and to make things worse, I unplugged the stick, and it was still jumping! I had to plug it back in and out again to make it stop.

So anyway, I have NO idea whats going on with this stupid thing, all the solder points seem fine, theres no pressure being applied to the preasure activation points as far as I can tell. Anyone know what might be the problem? (by the way, I used a circuit board from a madcatz 2001 model PS pad)

:lame: :( :mad:

[Dreaded Fist]

are you using a super stick? because super sticks are reallly sensitive, and its always the up direction thats too sensitive. Try bending the bar on the up switch toward the switch, it'll make space between the actuator and the lever. try it!

[ElvenShadow]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist
are you using a super stick? because super sticks are reallly sensitive, and its always the up direction thats too sensitive. Try bending the bar on the up switch toward the switch, it'll make space between the actuator and the lever. try it!

Yes I am using a super stick, however I know that it is not a problem with the stck itself because have unsoldered the directions from the board and it still jump (and now for some reason ducks) on is own. When i go into training mode and display input it just shows up and down randomly flashing over and over on the bar and the character ducks and jumps and super jumps randomly. SO it must be a problem with the ground connection, only thing is I dont know where the problem is. Any of this look wrong to you

http://www.members.aol.com/elvenshadow/board1.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/elvenshadow/board2.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/elvenshadow/board3.jpg

[SNAAAKE]

Originally posted by ElvenShadow


Yes I am using a super stick, however I know that it is not a problem with the stck itself because have unsoldered the directions from the board and it still jump (and now for some reason ducks) on is own. When i go into training mode and display input it just shows up and down randomly flashing over and over on the bar and the character ducks and jumps and super jumps randomly. SO it must be a problem with the ground connection, only thing is I dont know where the problem is. Any of this look wrong to you

http://www.members.aol.com/elvenshadow/board1.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/elvenshadow/board2.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/elvenshadow/board3.jpg
It happends when you have drop of solder between the ground and common.
check the connection again.
solder in a different point and clean it where you already soldered.
AND you dont need that much solder:lol:
just some a little drop is good...get a fine tip for your soldering iron(that helps).

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Yeah... you want cold (or was it hot) solder joints when you're done. It's in one of those solder faq in one of the links on the first page. If it's shiny, it's a good joint, otherwise try again. Something like that. Use a thinner rosin core to solder, that would help it not be so fucking huge!

[doujinshi_2001]

Don't mind me.

Just subscribing to the thread.

[rrehmann82]

Check out my kickass 2 player custom joystick...I fucking rule with this thing

[rrehmann82]

How bad ass would this be to have on a custom stick...

http://www.deviantart.com/view/22558

[asianghost]

can you guys post some of the images you used for your overlays. i wanna get some ideas.

[SNAAAKE]

Originally posted by rrehmann82
Check out my kickass 2 player custom joystick...I fucking rule with this thing
YEAH ? :lol:
Here is mine !:D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p4cef04fc55aee5f7bb911cd33fa65f6a/fbd89e41.jpg

Kicks serious ass !:eek:

[Hayabusa]

Hey SNAAAKE,

Have you started on mine yet?

[SNAAAKE]

Originally posted by Hayabusa
Hey SNAAAKE,

Have you started on mine yet?
yeah I got it today...will be starting tomorrow...:cool:

[gat89]

Is there a converter that will allow me to use my DC acrade sticks on my xbox? I know that some converters exist, but they do not support the arcade stick for some reason. Has anyone bought one that worked? If so, please give me the link or name so I can check it up. Thanks!

[rrehmann82]

If I wanted my joystick to be arcade perfect what joystick/buttons would I get?

[TripleAgent]

Originally posted by TripleAgent


OK, so is there a guide anywhere for this particular stick's(AGETEC) innards, and do you have any specific suggestions for adding it(PS PCB)?

[desistyle3]

does anyone know where to solder for the 5v for a p360 on a madcatz psx pad? its the one with no analog sticks and it has long handles...

i think its a madcatz 2001 or 2002 from what ive heard..

thanks!

[NewGen]

If anyone has used their Agetec joystick for building a custom stick, would it matter if i cut the 5volt charge coming from the dreamcast and hooking it up to the 360? because it goes directly to the mother board, or would it be better to split it, but if i split it would there be any side effects to the 5volt charge?

thanks.

[Eckostyle]

Forgive my newbishness, but I've got some question about this arcade stick, if anyone has had some action with it.

http://www.redoctane.com/joystick-capcom.html


Is it durable, and long lasting?
Are the buttons stiff, are as loose as an arcades buttons?
If its used with a PSX-DC converter, will the buttons map correctly? I intend to use it with a Dreamcast
Does it stay in place during play?

I'm pretty much interested in this one because it's not as expensive as most, and I need to vary the price of this along with getting a new Dreamcast. My old one seems to have died last night.

[Dreaded Fist]

It seems that p360 will work with any psx pad out there, so no need to get the hella hard to solder dual shock. Clik this link for more info.
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33652

I test it out on an interact pad and it works, if you dondt have a multimeter, sometimes the pad will come with a red light, and there are 2 copper point that the light connects to, the 5v should be one of those point.

For DC pads, just connect the 5v wire to the point on the dc pad that connects to the blue wire.

[desistyle3]

yeah my madcatz has a redlight....

my friend took off the light and soldered the +5 from the stick to their..

So it worked just fine? tiiiight!

[rrehmann82]

I'm thinking of using this as my taunt button

http://www.happcontrols.com/images/90/954002xx.gif

[rrehmann82]

Sweet so I just place my order with happcontrols.com

1 competition joystick

10 competition pushbuttons

[kobokushi.]

Originally posted by Eckostyle
Forgive my newbishness, but I've got some question about this arcade stick, if anyone has had some action with it.

http://www.redoctane.com/joystick-capcom.html


Is it durable, and long lasting?
Are the buttons stiff, are as loose as an arcades buttons?
If its used with a PSX-DC converter, will the buttons map correctly? I intend to use it with a Dreamcast
Does it stay in place during play?

I'm pretty much interested in this one because it's not as expensive as most, and I need to vary the price of this along with getting a new Dreamcast. My old one seems to have died last night.

Its fine for most of those thigns but it is NOT durable at all. It took me a week of light play to pull out 2 buttons and get the joystick to get stuck in the back position. DO NOT buy.

Also, I have a question- if I buy a MAS, but DON'T get a P360, will I still get an arcade-accurate feel? Or are competition sticks crappy?

[Dreaded Fist]

competitions are very good man. Go with it. P360s are overrated imo.

[Eckostyle]

I think I'll go with the ASCII DC Arcade Stick or the X-Arcade. I cant find the Interact Alloy Stick anywhere. I heard its pimp.

[ghengiskhang]

Ok, when I hooked everything up except the 360, all the buttons worked fine. Everything was cool.

Today, I finished everything and put the 360 in its place. Now, nothing works.

I checked to see how much voltage it was getting. Before, it was 3.43 volts and everything worked fine. Now that the 360 is in, it's 1.27-1.28 volts and it looks to me that the PCB is not getting enough voltage.

What should I do? Should I hook up an extra battery to the 360? Should I get a transformer and try to hook it up to the wall outlet? This sucks and I'm stumped. Help!

[Dreaded Fist]

ghengis: what pcb are you using? Thats a very weird problem, try using 3rd party pads w/o the dualshock support. The point you connect the 5v wire to is the 5th pin on the controller connector, just touch one needle end of your multimeter to that pin and then touch a point on your pad to see if it's the point that connects to the 5th pin and if it is, wire that bad boy.

[J-ride]

Originally posted by Eckostyle
I think I'll go with the ASCII DC Arcade Stick or the X-Arcade. I cant find the Interact Alloy Stick anywhere. I heard its pimp.

I had a stick like that, and I hated it, it was too hard to get certain motions out (DP and Fireballs) the thing just didnt register diagonals very well and it really annoyed me. I think the agetec was way better, I havent played an X-arcade though.

[NewGen]

He dreaded fist, would that happen to the DC if i cut off the connection between the 5volt charge coming from the system and then connect it to my 360?

[Dreaded Fist]

you'll fuck it up to no avail!!!

jk, don't do that, just wire it to the blue wire coming out of the pcb. I'm pretty sure thats the wire to connect to, if it's not just try one of the other 4 wires. There's only 5 wires coming out of the pcb to the dc.

[NewGen]

ok........so i don't have to worry about sending voltage to the pcb?

[DarkMage724]

Hey, I was just wondering if anyone was selling Black Competition Buttons. If anyone is selling a set, I would appreciate it if you would PM with the cost of the buttons.

If not, then does anybody know where I could get Black Competition Buttons?

Thanks.

[doujinshi_2001]

Originally posted by DarkMage724
Hey, I was just wondering if anyone was selling Black Competition Buttons. If anyone is selling a set, I would appreciate it if you would PM with the cost of the buttons.

If not, then does anybody know where I could get Black Competition Buttons?

Thanks.

I honestly hope you saw the links in the first page.

[Dreaded Fist]

Originally posted by NewGen
ok........so i don't have to worry about sending voltage to the pcb?

theres already voltage coming to the pcb dude, its the blue wire, wire the 5v wire to that!

[DarkMage724]

Originally posted by Soulblade136


I honestly hope you saw the links in the first page.

My apologies...

Thanks.

[fivehit]

hi, i'm wondering if anyone knows a faq on how to make a gamecube arcade stick or where to order japanese style sticks (with balls instead of bats)?

i'm asking specifically about the gamecube controller because of the digital click. i want to have gamecube specific sticks for CvSNK2 and SC2, but i don't see anything online about gamecube sticks at all.

btw, are the hori SC2 sticks a decent replacement for custom arcade sticks? because i found them for $40 on play-asia, and that's about the cost of putting together a single custom stick (if i were to buy *everything* including tools). if i could get that, then i'd be pretty happy too...

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by fivehit
hi, i'm wondering if anyone knows a faq on how to make a gamecube arcade stick or where to order japanese style sticks (with balls instead of bats)?

i'm asking specifically about the gamecube controller because of the digital click. i want to have gamecube specific sticks for CvSNK2 and SC2, but i don't see anything online about gamecube sticks at all.

btw, are the hori SC2 sticks a decent replacement for custom arcade sticks? because i found them for $40 on play-asia, and that's about the cost of putting together a single custom stick (if i were to buy *everything* including tools). if i could get that, then i'd be pretty happy too...

Go to the arcadecontrols.com and there is a new project where someone made a GC arcade stick using the Wavebird pcb (wireless arcade stick) .

[One Eyed King]

Alright I got a pretty good deal for all you T.O peeps. I tried building my own stick (well no building of any kind occured :D ) but got too lazy and i dont want to invest the time to start it. I am looking to sell the following items as a WHOLE PACKAGE so if anyone in T.O (or close to Guelph) is interested pm me.

- 22-16 .187 female quick disconnects 100pcs
-Marksman solder iron, lighted, 25 W, 120V
- solder viles (i think each vile has 5 or 10 ft of solder) x2
-hook up wire 22 gauge/25 ft. x 2 (silver and yellow)
-vellman digital multimeter
- 2 pcs of black velcro
-1 pkg of 1' brads (30 i think)
- 6x3/4 wood screws (13)
- broad hinges x2
-p360 joystick
-6 competition buttons
-1 horizontal button (the start button)
and i'll throw in the wood and a ps1 dual shock(white) controller for free

Now all this shit cost me about roughly $220 cdn all together and that includes the tax and shippin and iam looking to get rid of it at $150 Cdn. So if anyone interested pm me and we'll work somthin out. if i get no offers it'll most likely be available to the rest of you guys so i'll post again if it is.

thanx
oh and to everyone that bought a stick from snaaake; are the sticks worth the money?

[SNAAAKE]

Originally posted by One Eyed King


thanx
oh and to everyone that bought a stick from snaaake; are the sticks worth the money?

you could talk to the dudes bought from me ! :D :cool: :D
send the stuff you already have...no need any wood but everything else and some money and I will build it for you...PM please ! :cool:

[sevenD_eight]

i have 2 questions

. i bought a p360 but i lost the shaft to the stick. can i stick a broom handle in there and will everything work okay? i wanted to clean while i played on my dc..please help, i'm stumped..

one mroe thing, i cant find a powersource for the p360 either..and i broke 3 multimeters trying to find it... can i strap a car battery inside my joystick? will everything still work? i need serious help.

btw, i read every single page twice and still couldnt find an answer..pm my ass and tell me how stupid i am...

lesson of this post: some people just shouldn't build sticks.
:wtf:

[KOF freak]

anybody having any shipping problems with Happcontrols lately? because i ordered 6 comp buttons, 1 player button, and a competition joystick in 5/27/03. I still haven't recieved my order. And when i check my cart, it says my cart is empty because i assume it's already paid for and ready to go. But when i check the order status, it says my stuff hasn't been sent and no invoice or anything. I paid with an American EXpress credit card. This is my first time ordering from Happcontrols so i don't know what's going. Please email e at Shironeko327@aol.com or PM me or AIM me at ShiningWizard327. thanx

[fivehit]

anyone know where to order sanwa or other ball/knob type sticks? the sanwa site is in japanese, so um... that sucks... but i really want one.

[astro86]

J-ride: i wanna thank u for answer my soldering question a while back.

Today i finished my arcade stick i have compeition stick and Convex bottuns on it and i used an original DC controller. Let me tell you. O_O u have to have a very steady hand to solder that shit!!!! the L and R sensors ar so fucking small!!!!!!. But alas after 2 days it is complete :D now i must add artwork to my stick :D ill try to get some pics up :)



Oh and KOF freak i orderd from happs and i live in Puerto Rico it only took 4 days for my parts to get here and that was like a week ago.

[KOF freak]

then WTF did i do wrong? i gave them my credit card number and everything. Maybe i got confused because it's very different ordering from Happcontrols than any other website I've ordered from. But i thought i did everthing right. I e-mailed to see what's up so hopefully they can explain.

[J-ride]

Originally posted by astro86
J-ride: i wanna thank u for answer my soldering question a while back.

Today i finished my arcade stick i have compeition stick and Convex bottuns on it and i used an original DC controller. Let me tell you. O_O u have to have a very steady hand to solder that shit!!!! the L and R sensors ar so fucking small!!!!!!. But alas after 2 days it is complete :D now i must add artwork to my stick :D ill try to get some pics up :)


You are welcome, and good job, I never even bothered because I opened one up and said "Fuck this" and got something easier, I guess you just have big hairy balls.

KOF Man: I just got my order from happ and it took ALOT longer than usual, I ordered about 2 weeks ago and didnt get my order till friday. So I dont know what the problem is, email thier customer service and see if they have your order yet.

[doujinshi_2001]

Originally posted by sevenD_eight
i have 2 questions

. i bought a p360 but i lost the shaft to the stick. can i stick a broom handle in there and will everything work okay? i wanted to clean while i played on my dc..please help, i'm stumped..

one mroe thing, i cant find a powersource for the p360 either..and i broke 3 multimeters trying to find it... can i strap a car battery inside my joystick? will everything still work? i need serious help.

btw, i read every single page twice and still couldnt find an answer..pm my ass and tell me how stupid i am...

lesson of this post: some people just shouldn't build sticks.
:wtf:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Dreaded Fist]

you can get the j-stik, its like a sanwa stick... at www.ultimarc.com
shipping is alot though.

as far as happs is concern, you should have an account there right? well log in, and check up on your order status. If it says they are allocating the items, they are "making" it i think.

[rrehmann82]

I ordered from Happ controls but I did it over the phone.

I keep things as simple as possible and the way they have their shopping carts set up is so fucking gay.

Just call them and ask.

[KOF freak]

I e-mailed Happcontrols asking what was going on and they e-mailed me back. The problem was my credit card was declined (the credit card is actually my mom's so i didn't know) but I don't understand why they never told me this earlier. If i didn't email them first, i probably would have never known my card was declined. Oh well..i'll just make a custom stick when my other Agetec stick brakes.

[fivehit]

does anyone know how these compare to everything else? i heard the sanwa sticks were really expensive, so seeing similar sticks for $15 kind of makes me wary.

if anyone can suggest getting the j-sticks, i'd probably buy it. for a pair of arcade pads w/ that, it would costs something like $110 for all the parts (gutting redoctanes for their casings).

[N-Ken]

Hey what are the best box dimensions I can use if I'm trying to make it stable, sturdy, and small as possible. Im probably going to be using 8 buttons, either a J-stick or a Comp stick. Please help.

[Dreaded Fist]

n ken, its up to your imagination and how much space you want, but the depth of the stick should at least be 2 1/2", thats how long the competition stick gut is.

[J-ride]

I was just recommending this pad to anyone who is looking into doing an Xbox hack, its a Gamestop Brand (Pelican) GSX Controller for Xbox, it has nice sized points, is cheap, and is pretty simple to solder, has an obvious +5v, that is easy to solder to, the only downside is that if you want 8 buttons you have to wire the triggers, but I think I figured out how to do that, we will know in a about a week anyway. (Xbox triggers are funny, I think I got it though)

N-ken: I make most of my boxes about 3 inches deep, unless some big pad is going in it, then I might make it 4.5 or so. The smallest dimension box I have is my Soulcalibur 2/Neo Geo stick which is about 3 inches deep, and is 8 X 10.5 on top, I know that doesnt seem that small, but I like to rest my hand on the stick when I play. If your stick is only 3 inches deep, its gonna be a tight sqeeze to get a Xbox or a DC controller in thier, especially with those dimensions.

[N-Ken]

Originally posted by J-ride
I was just recommending this pad to anyone who is looking into doing an Xbox hack, its a Gamestop Brand (Pelican) GSX Controller for Xbox, it has nice sized points, is cheap, and is pretty simple to solder, has an obvious +5v, that is easy to solder to, the only downside is that if you want 8 buttons you have to wire the triggers, but I think I figured out how to do that, we will know in a about a week anyway. (Xbox triggers are funny, I think I got it though)

N-ken: I make most of my boxes about 3 inches deep, unless some big pad is going in it, then I might make it 4.5 or so. The smallest dimension box I have is my Soulcalibur 2/Neo Geo stick which is about 3 inches deep, and is 8 X 10.5 on top, I know that doesnt seem that small, but I like to rest my hand on the stick when I play. If your stick is only 3 inches deep, its gonna be a tight sqeeze to get a Xbox or a DC controller in thier, especially with those dimensions.

Im using a PS2 controller, would that size work with 8 buttons? For comparison what size is the MAS?

Thanks a lot for peeps helping out

[J-ride]

^ That will fit fine, the PS pcbs are little, it will fit fine. I dont know, I do not own a mas.

[SNAAAKE]

Here is one for Hayabusa ! :D :cool:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p6f9d75f48ad4eb7d95e07c4ba2ce591d/fbcb320c.jpg

I have 3 more looks like mass sticks WITH some artwork for sale as well..will be posting pics later tomorrow(the case doesnt look complete).
Yup...build 4 today !:sweat:

[ashurax]

I have some extra parts that could be used for an arcade stick. They are as follows:

Competition Joystick
Ultimate Joystick
(I have 4 springs. The soft spring that came wid da ultimate spring, the medium spring that came wid da competition joystick, and 2 hard springs that i ordered.)
9 horizontal conxave pushbuttons widout nut and microswitch (2 blue, 2red, 2 green, 3 black. u can order just the nut and microswitch from happs.)
1 hacked and prewired gravis gamepad pro USB for the PC (it has 4 directional inputs and 10 button inputs. However I had some issues wid 4 of the button inputs. Like if u press 2 directions and one of the 4 face button inputs, it sets off another button input. However, if u r just building a stick wid just 6 main buttons, u can just use the other 6 inputs and it will do fine.)

All of these parts were previously used in a PC stick. When I converted the stick to DC, I upgraded my parts to P360 joystick and convex buttons and was left wid these parts just lying around. PM if u r interested in buying these parts.

[desistyle3]

just wondering....

Has anyone sucessfully hacked a MAS to support another system?

Just wondering..friend of mine is working on it for me right now...

[Dreaded Fist]

everybody email bob roberts to force him to get some p360 and convex buttons so we won't hvae to buy from happs!!!!

[ashurax]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist
everybody email bob roberts to force him to get some p360 and convex buttons so we won't hvae to buy from happs!!!!

last time i emailed him about carrying convex buttons (back when happs had the $25 minimum order so i couldnt buy $5 worth of competition buttons) he told me if he did have any he would throw them out the door before selling them:confused:

[Dreaded Fist]

yeah thats why we gotta convince him that those are what the fighting game community wants now aday. and do do that, we need a petition. anyone???

[ComboMasher]

snaaake-How much would you charge to build a box for a controller and solder on a joystick? You see I have a topmaxx controller for DC which i have already soldered buttons onto. All I need is a box to encase it in and a actual joystick to be soldered onto the PCB.

[SNAAAKE]

Originally posted by ComboMasher
snaaake-How much would you charge to build a box for a controller and solder on a joystick? You see I have a topmaxx controller for DC which i have already soldered buttons onto. All I need is a box to encase it in and a actual joystick to be soldered onto the PCB.
check PM ! :cool:

[Dreaded Fist]

hey why are u buying from snake and no tme:(

[SNAAAKE]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist
hey why are u buying from snake and no tme:(
because i am cooler :lol: :cool: :lol:

no ruining sale please !:cool:
Now seriouslly,just build them and post..I am sure many are looking for custom stick.

[TripleAgent]

I looked around, I still want to try to add the PSX PCB to my Agetec (I know, I know, I just like it) I haven't found anything that will tell me what to do. My thinking is just splice into the button wires and run them to the corresponding point on the PCB. But I really don't know, and don't want to ruin a stick. Please give suggestions or instructions, anyone? Thanks.

[Dreaded Fist]

triple agent, you can split the wire, that'll work, and it won't ruin your stick, the most it can ruin is your controllelr port and maybe the pcb. but the stick/buttons will be there to last.

[TripleAgent]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist
triple agent, you can split the wire, that'll work, and it won't ruin your stick, the most it can ruin is your controllelr port and maybe the pcb. but the stick/buttons will be there to last.

Care to elaborate on damaging the controller port?

[Dreaded Fist]

well as long as you don't have both the dc and psx plugged in at once with both power on, nothing "should" happen. but if the worse come, the fuse might blow and you can just replace it. thats all.get a converter, its much more convinient.besides, the agetec stick is hella small, fitting a bunch of wires and another pcb inside=messy.

[TripleAgent]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist
well as long as you don't have both the dc and psx plugged in at once with both power on, nothing "should" happen. but if the worse come, the fuse might blow and you can just replace it. thats all.get a converter, its much more convinient.besides, the agetec stick is hella small, fitting a bunch of wires and another pcb inside=messy.

I'd never do something stupid like that, I do appreciate the warning, though. I realize it may be a tad tight, I just figure I can go super cheap, while retaining the feeling of my favorite joystick ever. And, of course, I'd love a converter, but isn't it true that a DC->PS or DC->GC converter doesn't exist?

[cdurant895]

SNAAAKE,

I plan to invest in some arcade joysticks next month, and wanted to know if you could provide some information about your sticks.

I am interested in two PS/PS2 arcade sticks like the stick in this picture.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture...1d/fbcb320c.jpg.

- What is your price for two of these sticks with Happ competition joysticks and 8 Happ competition buttons (2 rows of 4)?

- Do you have different type of art your customers can choose from?

- What are the dimensions of the Arcade stick. Length, Width, Height, Weight.

[Dreaded Fist]

yeah, hahah thats right, no dc to anything converter, i think you can get away with your approach though. If anythign mess up you can always replace your controller port.


btw, heres a picture of the stick i made for alikebeingalive:

www.geocities.com/konxept/stick4.jpg

[SNAAAKE]

Originally posted by cdurant895
SNAAAKE,

I plan to invest in some arcade joysticks next month, and wanted to know if you could provide some information about your sticks.

I am interested in two PS/PS2 arcade sticks like the stick in this picture.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture...1d/fbcb320c.jpg.

- What is your price for two of these sticks with Happ competition joysticks and 8 Happ competition buttons (2 rows of 4)?

- Do you have different type of art your customers can choose from?

- What are the dimensions of the Arcade stick. Length, Width, Height, Weight.
check PM ! :D :cool:

[Seifer_VIII]

yo snaake you just pmed me back with the prices and everything for the arcade stick you were going to build for me but your emails is full or whateva so anyway

yes i would like all the specs you described in your pm including artwork and plexiglass and my budget is around $120-130 and i would like a singleplayer arcade stick not the double. holla back with address, shipping cost , any info u might need, oh and do u do overnight shipping. oh and its for the ps2.

[SNAAAKE]

Originally posted by Seifer_VIII
yo rotendo you just pmed me back with the prices and everything for the arcade stick you were going to build for me but your emails is full or whateva so anyway

yes i would like all the specs you described in your pm including artwork and plexiglass and my budget is around $120-130 and i would like a singleplayer arcade stick not the double. holla back with address, shipping cost , any info u might need, oh and do u do overnight shipping. oh and its for the ps2.
errr...talking to me there ?
Yeah I got an email saying you tried sending a message but my inbox was full...talking to me ? :confused: :confused:
maybe you tried to send the message to rotendo? :confused:

[TripleAgent]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist
yeah, hahah thats right, no dc to anything converter, i think you can get away with your approach though. If anythign mess up you can always replace your controller port.




Ok, I looked inside, the new question is, how do I wire this thing correctly? I can solder well but I'm not good with grounding, conductivity, etc. I've tried to follow the thread, but I'm not very sure.

The PCB is an old PS1 controller(1st gen)

1. There is a ground wire connecting all the buttons (and one to the stick) in the Agetec, do I need to wire that to the new pcb at all, or can I leave it alone?

2. Where exactly on the pcb should I connect? The button contact points are odd. There are points that lead to the cord, can I possibly use those, or must i expose something on the board for each button?

3. Anyone happen to know the color coding for the wires to the stick(time saver)?

[Seifer_VIII]

Originally posted by SNAAAKE

errr...talking to me there ?
Yeah I got an email saying you tried sending a message but my inbox was full...talking to me ? :confused: :confused:
maybe you tried to send the message to rotendo? :confused:

no when i posted i mistakenly put rows name my bad but anyway i just sent u a pm sorry about the mix up:o

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

I got the pm. Hahaha, no problem. I would make you a stick if I had time, still build for people, and if I wasn't too busy changing damn diapers and leading my Marines. (that's a 24 hour job already)

Hook him up SNAAAKE.

[Dreaded Fist]

Originally posted by TripleAgent


Ok, I looked inside, the new question is, how do I wire this thing correctly? I can solder well but I'm not good with grounding, conductivity, etc. I've tried to follow the thread, but I'm not very sure.

The PCB is an old PS1 controller(1st gen)

1. There is a ground wire connecting all the buttons (and one to the stick) in the Agetec, do I need to wire that to the new pcb at all, or can I leave it alone?

2. Where exactly on the pcb should I connect? The button contact points are odd. There are points that lead to the cord, can I possibly use those, or must i expose something on the board for each button?

3. Anyone happen to know the color coding for the wires to the stick(time saver)?
on the pcb you only need one ground leading to the button, since there should already be ground wires daisy chained on the buttons/stick. If it's a psx pad, there should be black crud on right? scrape it off with an exacto knife and solder to the copper underneath, the actual copper point is pretty small. The point that leads to a black blob in teh middle is the hot point and the one that are connected to each other is the ground. Put a blob of hot glue on top of each solder connection to ensure that it won't come off, which it shouldn't, but better to be safe, nah mean? good luck foo!

[ghengiskhang]

Hey Dreaded Fist, or anyone.

How do you find the +5 volt wire on the PS2 pad? I'm using a Mad Catz Duel Force.

I tried using a voltmeter, but there seems to be more than one wire providing the necessary voltage.

[qwazy]

anyone wanna' hook me up with two dc sticks for hella' cheap?

i dont need grade-a workmanship on the casing or anything, no pics and shit or plexi glass. i just need a box with some comp. sticks and convex buttons. i just need somethin' that'll work good. :D

anyone think they can hook me up with some bargain prices?

[TripleAgent]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist

on the pcb you only need one ground leading to the button, since there should already be ground wires daisy chained on the buttons/stick. If it's a psx pad, there should be black crud on right? scrape it off with an exacto knife and solder to the copper underneath, the actual copper point is pretty small. The point that leads to a black blob in teh middle is the hot point and the one that are connected to each other is the ground. Put a blob of hot glue on top of each solder connection to ensure that it won't come off, which it shouldn't, but better to be safe, nah mean? good luck foo!

Thanks, I think I'm almost ready to do it, but I'm not clear on what's the ground. The traces all lead together to a ic on the pcb. Besides that, I think I'm set.

[Dreaded Fist]

the ground is the copper point that connects to a bunch of copper points, u can just follow the traces, i nornally wire the ground to the points on teh directionals, since they tend to be big half circles of copper. Think of the word common. They're all connected to each other.

qwzy, check pm nig nog.

[rrehmann82]

Ok I'm having a problem in the carpentry department...well it may turn out to be a problem.

For the wood I'm using 1/2 inch particle board. Now here's the problem. I'm having trouble finding hinges with screws small enough so that when I screw the hinges to the particle board the screws don't pop out on the other side

I've included a sketch to help demonstrate what I'm talking about. The sketch should be easy enough to figure out. Those lines represent the screws poking out the other side.

For the hinges I bought 2 brass 1/2 inch hinges...practically the smallest they had because of the screw issue. I just hope the screws and hinges will be strong enough.

[rrehmann82]

Build It

For your amusement I present the following story

I went to Home Depot on my anniversary with my girlfriend of 4 years. Anyways we're getting out of the car and she says hurry up I wanna give you your present. I'm thinking oh shit I totally forgot a card and everything. So anyways I start buying all these materials and she's like what the fuck is he getting all this stuff for. She didn't know I was building myself a joystick at the time. So me being the genius that I am I show her the diagram of the box I was going to build for my joystick. Then I totally pulled this story out of my ass how I thought it would be nice if I made a box for her so she could put all her "relationship" stuff in (love letters and that kind of crap). I told her I planned to make it so that the lid will have scanned pictures of us with the Lexan covering and that on the inside will be a handwritten message on the bottom of the lid. She totally ate it up but the downside is now I gotta make 2 boxes. Oh well at least I'm not in the dog house.

Oh sorry about the rant...If you wanna pay a hundred bux go with Xarcade

(In response to someone asking what kind of joystick they should buy)

[NinjaSYXX]

quick question, what IC is in the MAS PC Board for the dreamcast controller??

[J-ride]

Originally posted by rrehmann82
Build It

For your amusement I present the following story


:lol: So glad I don't have a girlfriend anymore.

[Dreaded Fist]

ha ha hahahahaha but since you're making a box for here just make a straight up box. dont put any slants in it. It'll be funny if u make a mas clone with the corners like that and everything lol:lol:

amusing story indeed, you're pretty slick to be able to fool her like that.

btw you're making your box so that it opens from the side?

[TripleAgent]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist
the ground is the copper point that connects to a bunch of copper points, u can just follow the traces, i nornally wire the ground to the points on teh directionals, since they tend to be big half circles of copper. Think of the word common. They're all connected to each other.

qwzy, check pm nig nog.

I might sound crazy, but seriously, all the traces lead to the chip in the middle. There is a black wire that goes from the pcb to the cord, can I use that? And do I need to ground each button and directional, or will one point do it?

[rrehmann82]

The lid is clam style just like every other box...

Any ideas about what to do with the screws?

[Dreaded Fist]

rheman, just use a saw and cut it off man, just so it'll fit, it 1/2" is deep enough to hold, and since you're putting lexan and artwork on top u can just drill it straight thru.

for the ground, you only need one ground coming from the pcb.

[TripleAgent]

Thanks, I'll give it a shot Saturday.

[SNAAKE]

Originally posted by rrehmann82
The lid is clam style just like every other box...

Any ideas about what to do with the screws?
why dont ya use VERY small brads(tacks). :)
like finishing tacks..go to home depot and ask for finishing tacks..avoid screws if you DO use screws then pre drill and use drywall screws(they are cheap and works great). :D

[J-ride]

Originally posted by Dreaded Fist
ha ha hahahahaha but since you're making a box for here just make a straight up box. dont put any slants in it. It'll be funny if u make a mas clone with the corners like that and everything lol:lol:
amusing story indeed, you're pretty slick to be able to fool her like that.


No, he needs to make the box for her, and have a jstick sticking out the top...:lol:

[SNAAKE]

Originally posted by J-ride


No, he needs to make the box for her, and have a jstick sticking out the top...:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

get some p360...longer shaft ! :evil:

[rrehmann82]

Ok thats just fuckin gross :lol:

[J-ride]

While you are hooking up the +5 volt, you can hook up a little motor to the shaft, for her pleasure....:lol:

[rrehmann82]

*Realizes he's the only guy on shoryuken who has a girlfriend *:wtf:

[One Eyed King]

hahaha

[ComboMasher]

Snaaake- I cant send U PM's anymore because it says u have chosen not to recieve messages.

[SNAAKE]

Originally posted by ComboMasher
Snaaake- I cant send U PM's anymore because it says u have chosen not to recieve messages.
Check PM:cool:

[doujinshi_2001]

Check out this gamepad. Do you think this is an easy controller to work with? BTW, it's an EA gamepad. Sorry for the pic being blurry. My digital camera isn't that good.

[Dreaded Fist]

yup, looks good. Shouldn't have any problem.

[doujinshi_2001]

Thanks, man. I'm gonna start the project when I get more money.

[rrehmann82]

Hey guys from experience whats easier to hack for the xbox? The Mad Catz Pad or the Xbox Reflex Arcade Stick...I have both and I just want to do the one which will be the simplest.

Thanks

[Dreaded Fist]

reflex man, since theres no sodlering involve, thers already wires coming out form it. check the link on the first page to kevin's badass stick page for more details, he has details on both the hack u mentioned.

[rrehmann82]

Ok well basically kevins site kicks ass...I built his clamshell type box and basically prepped the reflex PCB the only problem that I'm having is that he says we can use quick connects and all that good stuff to eliminate soldering but thats pretty much where it stops...Basically I need someone to give me an example where I can see these quick connects demonstrated. Also he never explained how the hell to hook the ground wire to all the switches and the joystick. Is that the part that requires soldering?

I dunno...Anyways I need help

I'll give you a dollar :D

[rrehmann82]

Oh and in case no one mentioned it before...DON'T PUT YOUR COMPETITION JOYSTICK TOGETHER UNTIL THE BOX IS READY.

:lol:

Good luck getting that bitch apart without some needle nose pliers

[SNAAKE]

Here is another for... wildstin55 ! :D :cool: :D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid68/p058599aea455eac35d89d108e14c0c93/fbc0f996.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid68/pbbd5f9dc7a505acda0408711c2cb4cbf/fbc0f995.jpg

[desistyle3]

Hey dreaded fist,

Still in cali, gonna get home late sunday night, but try to get online so i can talk about the rest of the details with the stick.

Thanks!

[Dreaded Fist]

use the pm son. lol. but ok, i'll just try to be online when you are.

[rrehmann82]

Ok well basically kevins site kicks ass...I built his clamshell type box and basically prepped the reflex PCB the only problem that I'm having is that he says we can use quick connects and all that good stuff to eliminate soldering but thats pretty much where it stops...Basically I need someone to give me an example where I can see these quick connects demonstrated. Also he never explained how the hell to hook the ground wire to all the switches and the joystick. Is that the part that requires soldering?

I dunno...Anyways I need help

I'll give you a dollar :lol:

[secretaznman]

wow i have spent basically 1 week off and on reading every single page on this thread. damn! i gotta say props 2 rotendo for startin this thread from way back when. rotendo's, jride's, and dreaded fist's avatars have been burned onto my mind from seein their's so much! (espicially dreaded fist's... lol). word of advice to anyone who doesn't feel like readin all those 91 pages, do it seriously. there is soooo much info in them.

anyways, i've ordered my parts from happ and i'm about 2 build mine soon. i bought md particle board and i'm goin for a mas stick clone but i dunno if i can do it cuz of the angled bevels for the front and back panel. i remember dreaded fist had some tips on doin it without the rite tools but that sounds like alot of work but it's worth the shot. i'm also plannin on goin for the external adaptar model design found on http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdpyle1/controls.htm . i forget who's page that is but damn, nice job. i also bought a competition stick with competition buttons. i just got a few questions. for now i'm goin to use the madcatz dualforce ps1/ps2 to hack. are all ps1/ps2 3rd party hacks all use the same pcb board design for the most part? if so i'm plannin 2 use the info on arcadecontrols when i solder mine. i'm also usin 3/4" md particle board n got 1/8 lexan. is this too thick? should i get the 1/2" cuz my dad says nobody sells 5/8"? o yeah 1 more thing, i've read about this multiple ground thing. i thought all controllers just used 1 common ground that branched out all over the board and you could just solder whereever it is? and if anyone else has hacked the mad catz dual force please tell me if this has this multiple ground thing. i'll post my stick up sometime soon when it gets done!

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

The pcb design for 3rd party controllers are not all the same. Some have visible copper solder 'points' (brass like circles) on them, others have the screwdriver looking points on them (half brass circles). Some don't have anything in which you have to scratch the trace to solder onto it (something for the solder to join onto) You can also dremel a hole on those type of boards to help.

1/8 lexan is not too thick. Perfect cuz it's lexan and its harder to crack when drilling. Personally, I'd prefer lexan over optix and any other type of plexi. I've experienced the same type of problem that the link you posted had. I went through many sheets due to cracking and it pissed me off. Anyway, just TAKE YOUR TIME, when drilling the holes to fasten the plexi. When drilling the buttons holes, have something backing it to avoid cracking/breaking/snapping. When drilling the holes on the board, it helps to have some wood backing that too to avoid 'blow out'. (when you drill holes without anything backing it, you'll likely blow out the other side of the wood. Pieces sticking out, chip wood flapping and shit... well you know)

Not all pcb use one common ground. Some use 2, others use 3. For example, I had a problem with the Retro Shock 2 pcb. I had 2 grounds (one for the buttons, one for the d-pad/joystick) On all my projects, I include the start button with the buttons ground. However, with this board, I noticed that it had an additional copper solder point (a ground point), but I thought that I didn't need it and was covered. For a while I wonderd why my Start button didn't work. I opened up my box and use something metallic like a screw and pressed it to that 'useless' point and it activated the start button. Okay, I figured it out I told myself. It HAS to have it's own ground. So I soldered another wire to that point for the starts ground and that fixed my problem. I don't a multimeter, but if I did, I would have figured it out sooner. A must to avoid trouble shooting. :D

Hope this helps a little.

[secretaznman]

thanx rotendo. damn, the mad catz dual force has a nice pcb board to hack from. it has the circles you were talkin bout that are just the rite size for soldering. it also has two grounds. the directions and buttons share the same ground while the mode, select, and start share another ground. i'll try to make a page for hackin the dual force cuz i don't see one for it yet. i have a question though, the analog sticks are attached to the board with a ribbon cable. do i just cut that off? and when i meant the face board bein too thick i meant if the tickness of the 3/4" particle board with the 1/8" lexan combined would make the stick too short?

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Yes, you can cut the ribbon off. No, it wouldn't matter and it won't affect the sticks length unless you use MDF board. Then you'll have to result to routing the wood to have a good 'shaft' length (Get you heads out the gutter fellas) With particle board, the JOYSTICK length will be fine. Only worry when it comes to MDF board or anything close to 3/4 inch thick.

[secretaznman]

hmmm... aparently i got mdf board (i just checked) n i got 3/4".... lol wow looks like i gotta route! :p i remember u sayin just use a chisel 2 route it. any idea how far i should? thanx

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

About halfway. The joystick base or whatever you want to call it should be flushed when done.

91 pages! Damn, I see only 35. Change you post view per page to 40. That's a lot of clicking you did!

[Dreaded Fist]

for the perfect length on the shaft, the wood should be the following length:

competition: 5/8"
ultimate: 3/4"
p360:1 inch
super: 5/8"

so if you would have gotten 1/2 " mdf with the 1/8 lexan, that would have been a perfect fit for competition sticks. What did you get an analog controller for hacking psx? lol. I personally like to stick with 3rd party pads w/o the dualshocks. The dualshock pads usually come with 2 pcbs and it makes it a hassle to mount it to the inside of your stick. and to make it easier on you guys, just set it to printable view and put all pages on one page, and then use Ctrl+f to find what you need. Much faster that way.

and i understand when u look at mentok for awhile he "takes" your mind.

[secretaznman]

bleh... :bluu: n i started drawin out the sketch on the board.... i wonder if i still have the reciet. o well routin doesn't sound that hard. as for the analog, the mad catz was the only 1 that EB had at the time. the board is acutally just 1 piece. lucky me :D does anyone know if the triggers on the gamecube controller are analog? i would think they r. if they were, would i just wire it as if it was just a regular button anyways?

[ghengiskhang]

Originally posted by secretaznman
thanx rotendo. damn, the mad catz dual force has a nice pcb board to hack from. it has the circles you were talkin bout that are just the rite size for soldering. it also has two grounds. the directions and buttons share the same ground while the mode, select, and start share another ground. i'll try to make a page for hackin the dual force cuz i don't see one for it yet. i have a question though, the analog sticks are attached to the board with a ribbon cable. do i just cut that off? and when i meant the face board bein too thick i meant if the tickness of the 3/4" particle board with the 1/8" lexan combined would make the stick too short?
Is the controller for PS2? Can you tell me where the 5v wire is? I suck and I still can't find it. I think I screwed up the PCB.

[rrehmann82]

Any response for my above question?

[Dreaded Fist]

Originally posted by rrehmann82
Ok well basically kevins site kicks ass...I built his clamshell type box and basically prepped the reflex PCB the only problem that I'm having is that he says we can use quick connects and all that good stuff to eliminate soldering but thats pretty much where it stops...Basically I need someone to give me an example where I can see these quick connects demonstrated. Also he never explained how the hell to hook the ground wire to all the switches and the joystick. Is that the part that requires soldering?

I dunno...Anyways I need help

I'll give you a dollar :D

You can just solder everything if you're saavy, quick disconnects just make the option available to switching out the switch when it gets worn out, which won't happen to a few years. Basicly u crimp the wires to the quick disconnect and then slide the quick disconnect over the terminals on the microswitch. cd vision's site has a good demonstration of that(check the link on first page). To hook the ground wire to all the switches just have one ground coming from the pad to the COM on a switch, And have THAT COM connect to all the other grounds. Again, u can attach quick disconnects by joining 2 wires together and crimping it to a disconnect. Or you can just solder.

[doujinshi_2001]

Dreaded Fist,

In the pic I showed you of my PCB, I'm not sure where I can find the ground at. Do you think you can give me an idea of where to look? And do I solder on the traces, or on the copper points?

[Dreaded Fist]

solder to the copper point, and to find the ground, there should be 2 copper points per buttons right? one of them is the ground. Just follow the trace on each copper point, if they lead to all the other copper points, then it's the ground, if they lead to a black blob in the middle, its the action. good luck.

[doujinshi_2001]

Wow, you reply fast. Thanks.

[secretaznman]

yay! the parts finally came in today from happ! does anyone know the measurements of the mas stick or a page that has details about it? i was lookin on cd vision's site n he really doesn't show how that 1 is constructed, he just posted some measurements.

rrhemann82: i don't know about the 5v but i'm havin my dad help me out with findin it. i hope i don't short circuit my ps2...:confused:

[secretaznman]

i just realized that cd vision said use 3/4" wood. if wat i'm thinkin is rite... that the front panel and the back panel are nailed to the bottom board from the side. that would mean the the sides should be about a 1/2" taller than the board itself with the thickness of the face board taken into consideration. ok if this is rite, does anyone know exactly where the side panels should be place in relation to the front and back panels? and exactly how far up from the bottom should the hinge be put on the face board(i'm assuming it opens from the front panel)?

[ashurax]

Hey Dreaded Fist, I got ur payment today. I tried to PM u but it said that ur pm box was full. Want me to ship it to the same address as on the envelope? LMK so I can send u ur parts ASAP.

[Dreaded Fist]

ashurax, yes just ship it to my address: i'll clear my pm box lol.

[itslog1]

Yo guys, i'm new to this thread and i have a few questions.

1. I am doing just a hack of you know, a third party psx gamepad, and i was wondering if i need spade terminals for anything. I don't even know what their purpose is, and again, i'm only hacking one gamepad for one system (ps2) and trying to make a 1 player stick. no more. i will not be using a p360 if that helps describe my situation.

2. What is this i hear about wiring a joystick up-sidedown and backwards? what do i need to know concerning this? i am using a happs competition in fact if that helps...

3. This entire ground thing confuses me. i understand why i need it and i understand its purpose but i don't know how to set it up. what do i solder the wire to, and once that is done, how can i be sure i can connect every button and direction to a ground? i understand the use of daisy-chaining and know all about quick disconnects, do i need to use these techniques?

4. i got some picture files on my computer that i would like to put on my stick's surface. i am turned off by plexi and lexan because it's only two images and i figured i could just make them stickers. so... how do i make computer picture files into stickers? where do i go and will con-tact paper be useful?

PS: This thread has been so much help. as soon as these questions are answered i could be on my way to building this stick. oh yea, i read all 93 pages of this thing and frankly the avs here have made me sick, and the next time i see an emoticon will be the death of me... peace, any help would be very much appreciated.***** for the thread!

[secretaznman]

itslog1: i'm no pro at this either but i'm give it a shot

1. for your purposes, i don't think you need to worry about getting barrier strips or spade connectors. you could just solder directly from the cherry switches to the pcb board. what you might want to do though is crimp on .197 quick disconnects onto one end of the wire and just slide them onto the correct prongs. this makes replacing parts easier if you ever need to and less soldering required :p

2. i think the whole upside down thing and backwards is just because somebody wired a cherry switch to the wrong part of the board. if you just wire the rite switch to the rite spot, nothin should be backwards. it can be confusing if you only use one color wire, so it might be helpful to use different colors for each and make a table of what is wat to help you.

3. go to cd vision's page on wiring your controls at http://www.darkravenwind.com/cdvision/madcatz2.htm . he makes it very easy to understand. but if you happen to have a board with more than one ground connection (like i do) you can't just daisy chain everything together. you can only daisy chain controls together that have the same ground connection. you'll need a voltmeter to find out if they all have the same ground connection. all this i think is explained in cd vision's page.

4. i don't see y you can't just use a sticker but after a while, i think your sticker would start to wear out. you say you're put off by plexi and lexan but if u read all the posts(like you said), you know that plexi sux and that lexan is like wood so it shouldn't be that bad to work with, just gotta drill and cut a lilttle slowly that's all. usin the lexan would help protect whatever you put down whether it be a sticker, vinyl, gloss paper, or just regular paper. depending on how large you want it, you can print it at home(which might look like crap depending on printer) or bring it to a staples or kinkos. lexan's like $3-$4 for a 11" x 14" x 1/10.5" piece. printing the pic can vary from a buck or two to like 10 and over. so it's up to you.

i hope my amateur knowledge helped. good luck.

[Punish3r]

Here is a pic of my custom arcade stick!

Click below!

(pr0n attachment deleted. User banned. Zero tolerance kiddies)

[mokujin07]

Alright, alright. Picked up an agetec from my local gamestop for 10 FREAKIN DOLLARS. One hell of a deal. Anyway, the stick is kind of a bitch, with its clicking and mediocre 8 directionals. On top of that is the clicking.

What stick should I use? I'm thinking either p360 or a happs competition. If I get either of these, am I going to have to do much altering? If so what and how much?

The buttons, I'm thinking I'm put in some concave. Same questions as the above.

[Running Uppercut]

Originally posted by Punish3r
Here is a pic of my custom arcade stick!

Click below!

That's the 2nd time you've posted that. Take them both down pronto.

[secretaznman]

haha... we got ourselves a funny man... :lame:

mokujin07: errrr... unfortunately for you, all sticks except the p360 make a clicking sound. p360 use optical sensors not contact switches so i guess get ready to shell out $40.

as for modification, you'll have to find a 5v source for the p360 either on the pcb or you'll have to wire an external 5v adapter for it. the directions you can either use .187 quick disconnects or solder the correct wires to the cherry switches.

as for convex vs concave buttons, i personally like the feel of convex buttons better. if you're into the american style i guess then get convex. if you like the japanese style go with concave or better yet, just get what ur arcade uses. it all comes down to personal prefrence.

[Dreaded Fist]

actually man, concave buttons are the american style. All jap buttons are bigger and are convex. :)

[secretaznman]

ack! i said it backwards. yeah i meant to say that. seriously :p anyways does anyone know anything about hacking a gamecube controller?

[doujinshi_2001]

Since no one has mentioned it, how much is a sander? And here can I get it from? I saw you can use it to even the sides of the board if they aren't cut evenly, and I see lots of uneven sides.

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by secretaznman
ack! i said it backwards. yeah i meant to say that. seriously :p anyways does anyone know anything about hacking a gamecube controller?

[Hellfromabove]

Well I didn't know of anywhere where else to put this and this seems like the best place so here goes. Well Krost got your money order. Nah man don't worry I wasn't gonna ditch you :D . Yeah I recieved it on Friday and sent out your stick today man. I know you paid me for Parcel Post but out of the generosity of my heart I went a step up and got you the shipping above that. So instead of getting it in 8 days, you'll get it in 2!!! What can I say, I'm a softy. Well just to let ya know. Thanx.

-See Ya!!!

[secretaznman]

thanx rotendo. as for sanders, i dunno off the top of my head how much 1 costs but you can buy them in any hardware store.

[krost]

Woo, thanks alot man! Real nice of you. Been a great transaction with you, and thanks for finding some bubble wrap and throroughly packin it all up. Cant wait for thursday for that stick! thanks again man.

[SNAAKE]

oh look like things worked out..:lol:
See..hellfromabove doesnt screw anyone with their money.
Just that he has trouble getting online all the time...:lol:
Simple ! :cool:

[secretaznman]

i'm about to get started on the stick and i can't decide on what kind of template i should use. i keep seeing two common kinds and i came up with one of them myself(well atleast i haven't seen it anywhere else). i know button layout comes down to all personal prefrence but i'd like to hear some opinions from people who have done layouts that aren't the norm(stuff like does it feel wierd?) and people who'd just like to add their two cents :p i attached an image of what i mean below. also as a side note. the stick is in the middle row of the capcom/ggxx design and the stick is between the capcomish rows in the other 2. thanx

[Hellfromabove]

Previously Posted by SNAAAKE:

oh look like things worked out..
See..hellfromabove doesnt screw anyone with their money.
Just that he has trouble getting online all the time...
Simple !



LOL :lol: . Thanks SNAAAKE, I couldn't have said it better my self. Thanx.

-See Ya!!!

[Hellfromabove]

Yo secretaznman, I got something for ya. Since you could not decide on a layout to use I have created one for you. Hope you like it. I added those 2 in the front so if you ever decide to play like SNK games on your computer or some shit. Well hope you like it. Also if you print it out it will be the exact size for drilling (the holes). So that is another cool thing about it. Everyone, feel free to use it. If anyone has a request on one just PM me. Thanx.

-See Ya!!!

[secretaznman]

hey thanx man :) but i got a question. isn't an snk setup just 4 buttons in the shape of a square? i haven't actually ever played on an snk cabinet, i just always see the how to play screens(ie garou and kof) and they're in a square. still, thanx again!

[Dreaded Fist]

actually for TRUE snk style buttons it should be a row of 4 buttons in an arc. Like in the attachment. but without the bottom middle and bottom right buttons. If you jus tmake it six buttons you can play capcom games too. The rainbow button layout is really good, if you put your finger on top all of your fingers fall righ ton top of the buttons. The only exception is if your arcade has straight buttons layout(american style) then you should go with that. Adjusting between the two may take awhile.

[Brooklyn]

hey do any of you know what site i can order a soft spring for my p360 from? thanx
~1~

[krost]

Hellfromabove....sooo ill. Free 2 day shipping, and a perfect mas stick. cant believe its used! its perfect, pristine condition. Order from that guy! Very reliable.

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by Brooklyn
hey do any of you know what site i can order a soft spring for my p360 from? thanx
~1~

SOFT spring? I have seen hard springs and standard springs, but never any 'soft' springs. I'll get back to you after a quick research.

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Originally posted by secretaznman
hey thanx man :) but i got a question. isn't an snk setup just 4 buttons in the shape of a square? i haven't actually ever played on an snk cabinet, i just always see the how to play screens(ie garou and kof) and they're in a square. still, thanx again!

A deformed 'L' setup actually. something like this 0 0 0
.................................................. ..................0
It appears to look arched, the first button is dropped off the remaing button that are pretty much lined horizontally.

[Dreaded Fist]

in case people are wondering, this is what the inside of a mas stick lookes like

[secretaznman]

well if ur reading this now that's either you bookmarked the thread or you just realized that the thread got moved. i was the latter(i think i used it rite :p ) should be stickied

[ashurax]

Originally posted by Brooklyn
hey do any of you know what site i can order a soft spring for my p360 from? thanx
~1~

I havent tried opening up a P360 joystick, but if u want a soft spring, u can always order the soft spring (might also be called standard spring) for the ultimate joystick from Happ controls. Just find out the product number and u can order it separately.

[ashurax]

everyone go post in the thread i made about bob roberts and convex PB's and P360 joysticks. u have to show him that there is a high demand for those parts.

[secretaznman]

anyone know an easy and cheap pc gamepad i could hack? i cracked open my old gravis gamepad pro(cheap lil thing, like $10) and finding the ground connections on that thing is killer even with a voltmeter. the sidewinder on kevin's badass site is great but i can only find the usb version now and that things $25. $25 i don't feel like parting with :D

[ashurax]

Originally posted by secretaznman
anyone know an easy and cheap pc gamepad i could hack? i cracked open my old gravis gamepad pro(cheap lil thing, like $10) and finding the ground connections on that thing is killer even with a voltmeter. the sidewinder on kevin's badass site is great but i can only find the usb version now and that things $25. $25 i don't feel like parting with :D

I have a gravis gamepad pro USB PCB that I wired up but dont use anymore (I converted my PC stick to a DC stick). Its wired up completely, but there r some issues wid the 4 face buttons ( has something to do wid pressing 2 directional buttons and a face button at the same time will cause other buttons to be pressed). However, the other 6 buttons work fine if u just want a panel wid 6 play buttons and a joystick (u can use the 4 face buttons for buttons that u dont use during play such as start, pause, coin, etc.) PM me if u wanna buy it off me.

[GinnaiDoma]

I have a MAS Super Pro Stick, but I really want some competition buttons and a p360 on it, but am too scared of breaking my stick. Does anyone live in the socal area that can do this for me? I'm in Los Angeles near UCLA.

[asianghost]

does anyone know hot to cleanly cut plexiglass? for some odd reason my local homedepot doesnt cut plexiglass. thanx!

[secretaznman]

they prob don't cut it cuz it smells like someone ripped a big one and also cuz it's not good to breath in. all i can advise is just use a saw and sand down the edges when ur done.

[ashurax]

for plexiglass u can score it with a utility knife and snap the piece ryte across the scoring line. When u drill it, I would suggest that instead of drilling directly, u should drill in reverse and instead melt through. That way u wont face the problem of cracking the plexiglass while ur drilling. Or u can just go really, really slow. Depends on u.

Or u can do what I did and just use lexan. Its tougher and easier to work wid. U dont get the problems wid plexiglass (fragile, cracks easily) and u can deal wid lexan as u would deal wid a piece of particle board. Meaning u can cut lexan wid a circular saw. Only bad thing is lexan costs a little more (about $1-$2 more).

[Mulligan]

I can do most stuff to make a joystick except making the box. yes i can prolly make some rectangle box and put some holes in it. but i dont want that. I want it to have a slanted top and edges on the top part like mas, have a latch to oppen up the box so u can stick ur cord in there, etc.

So how do i go about finding some1 who can make such a box for me, and if u happen to know around how much would it cost??

[secretaznman]

building the box imo is the hardest part so i feel ya but it ain't that bad. if u really want someone to do it for you, you could buy a mas stick, sav stick, x-arcade/red octane/dreamcast/etc. and stick new happ parts into it. or u could look in dreaded fists post and buy a single player stick from him for $90(+ $30 if u want a p360). very nice deal when compared to massystems (no need to thank me for the plug dreaded fist:D )

[SNAAKE]

YO everyone forgot me:lol: ?
I could make the box all you want.
PM me !:cool:

[Mulligan]

well i was looking for something more local, but if i cant find any1 ill sned ya a PM snake

and i cant use any premade sticks with us stick originally in them. cause i wanna use a korean stick and the hole needed for a korean stick is bigger than american sticks

[Bob-0]

Sorry if this sounds like a really newbieish question.
I'm going to make a 2 single players sticks for me and my friend. I was looking at putting in the competiton buttons, but i'm not too clear on the microswitch, do i have to buy it seperatly or is it included with the button?
Thanks

[Siefer]

Hi, I have a couple of questions I'm hoping someone can answer for me:

-If you're not going to use a P360 in your stick, can you still burn out your controller ports?

-Does it really matter who made/how expensive the gamepad you use to hack is for your PCB? Will it cause any problems if I pick, say a $3 gamepad at Walmart over a $15 pad from another store? Let's assume that both pads are easy to deal with.

Thanks for any/all help, and I looked through the first 50 pages of the custom arcade stick thread and couldn't find any clear/definate answers to those questions. (I've heard that a cheap/bad PCB can also burn out your controller ports for example?)

~Siefer

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

Bob-o: The microswitches comes with the push buttons/ultimate buttons you buy.

Seifer: No. Unless you connect your stick while the system is on, that's how you'll do it most of the time.

Any pcb will do. I used a $4.99 pad from Wal-Mart. It had the turbo/slow-mo buttons that I never used, but it works great.

[Siefer]

Rotendo:

So you must connect your stick before you turn your system on? This applies to all systems?

~Siefer

[SNAAKE]

Originally posted by Siefer
Rotendo:

So you must connect your stick before you turn your system on? This applies to all systems?

~Siefer
DUH !:lol:
Never connect anything while the system is on.
OR ELSE:lol:

[Shafted!]

What size screw should i use for a Competition joystick?

I tried reading the pdf given at happs' website, but they don't say.

THanks.

[SNAAKE]

Originally posted by Shafted!
What size screw should i use for a Competition joystick?

I tried reading the pdf given at happs' website, but they don't say.

THanks.
I say avoid screws and use carriage bolts. :)
Go to ace hardware and look for any that fits the joystick hole.
IF you dont find any and end up using screws,just get #8 screws from HD.

[Shafted!]

Originally posted by SNAAKE

I say avoid screws and use carriage bolts. :)
Go to ace hardware and look for any that fits the joystick hole.
IF you dont find any and end up using screws,just get #8 screws from HD.

Thanks, #8 screws are good cause i got some lying around.

BTW, what are carriage bolts?

[SSJ George Bush]

I have a problem with a stick i am currently building. All the buttons and directions work fine except for the up direction. The stick is stuck in the up direction and i dont know why. When i turn the board (mad catz dreamcast) upside down to check if anything is touching that shouldn't be sometimes it stops holding up.

Does anyone know what is wrong?

[SNAAKE]

Originally posted by Shafted!


Thanks, #8 screws are good cause i got some lying around.

BTW, what are carriage bolts?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid39/p841c3a5b4f7e853bbd1fb9761e9dccfa/fd0b1c61.jpg

[SNAAKE]

Originally posted by SSJ George Bush
I have a problem with a stick i am currently building. All the buttons and directions work fine except for the up direction. The stick is stuck in the up direction and i dont know why. When i turn the board (mad catz dreamcast) upside down to check if anything is touching that shouldn't be sometimes it stops holding up.

Does anyone know what is wrong?

umm...:confused:
Trace the up contact and solder it again somewhere else on the board.
I am sure your up wire is somehow touching ground(happens).

[SSJ George Bush]

Hey man thanks yeah the problem was there was the most TINY bit of solder connecting the ground and the up on the circular soldering point.

YEAH now this stick is great :cool: :cool:

Oh yeah does anyone have any idea where to get a 5V supply for a 360 stick? The people at the happ's distribution center here say they carry nothing like that and tried to tell me a 5v supply is built in and then pointed to the two connecters that go to the 5v supply and ground.

I can connect it to the 5V point on a board but it would be much easier to wire to an external source (Don't want to risk burning out anything)

[The Mullah]

hey, this is a really good thread! i've been playing cvs2 on my xbox and i think its about time i made my own stick.

i want to make a two player stick, with about 18 buttons, i want a nice picture on top, shiny plexi-glass etc.

how do i go about making it? what is the best pad to use etc? and how much am i looking at?

if anyone can help me out i'd be very grateful!

[secretaznman]

well plexi = :lame:
lexan's the way to go :cool:
well first of all, you should go to the first post of this thread and check out those links on how to make one. they should have all the info you need. but i'll give u the thread in a nutshell. u need to make a box. most people use 1/2" and 3/4" medium density particle board it's like $6 at home depot for a 2' x 4'. check out the links for some good designs. then you need to buy parts. either get a competition stick or a p360 stick and either ultimate(concave) or competition(convex) buttons. p360's you'll have to find a 5v power source for it by either external adaptar or hacking your pcb. as for hacking a pcb. you can use a psx one and use a ps2 to xbox converter or just hack an xbox controller. the links have info on hacking those. if you have good tools like a table saw/circular saw/handheld jigsaw cutter, a drill, 1/8" drill bit etc. it should cost you about $40-$60 if you're good. expect to possibly pay more if it's your very first time. good luck.

[The Mullah]

thank you very much, i'll check out those links.

i'm very unsure of the basics, do you , in essence, just link up the stick and buttons through an xboxpad, and house it in a wodden box?

whats the best pad to use, and what is the alternative to using a pad? are there any?

[secretaznman]

in layman's terms yeah, that's exactly what you do. an xbox pad i dunno. kevin's badass site has info on hacking a mad catz xbox pad. he also has stuff on using an xbox reflex and taking out the parts and sticking them in a wooden housing. alternative to using a pad would be to pm SNAAKE or Dread Fist on building you one. Dreaded Fist charges $140 for a two player stick. check them out at http://www.geocities.com/konxept/ (very nice sticks). or you could just buy a two player x arcade(or any 3rd party stick maker) and just replace it with happ parts.

[The Mullah]

i want to play cvsnk2 on my xbox using a custom stick i have made.

should i use another pad instead of an xbox one?

which is best then?
i feel the hardest part will be making it look good, is the box and overlay hard to get looking good?

[secretaznman]

well if all you have is an xbox and all you're goin to use ur stick for is cvs2. then use an xbox 1(makes most sense rite?). if u have a ps2 and say you also have an xbox, a dreamcast, or a gamecube, use a ps1/ps2 compatible pad and just use converters for the other systems. and yes and no to making the box look good. if u don't have the rite tools, ur goin to have a harder time makin ur box look rite. if want a custom overlay, it may take u some time if u don't have or know how to use photoshop or something like that. so in other words, the nicer it is, the more effort u gotta put in.

[The Mullah]

hey thnks man, yeah i'm planning on playing mainly on xbox but perhaps on ps2 too, so i guess i should be using a cheap playstation controller.

which is preferable ps1 or ps2. will there be a difference in performance depending on the price of the pad?

What tools do i need to make it look real proffessional?



btw, i really appriaciate your help here.

[secretaznman]

it doesn't matter imo. just as long, it works on ur ps2. what you also wanna check is also getting the converter and seeing if the converter converts it correctly. if it does then you got urself a winner :D performance in pad is basically the same. what you want to stay away from is the ps2 dual shock. i hear the contacts are just way too small to work with. for the ps2 i use ps1 pads. they usually have 1 ground making it easier for yourself. check the links cuz they have some good info on hacking $3 pads :D tools to make it LOOK professional or must make it? if u want a professional look, you gotta get a table saw, a nice sander, maybe a router, and a drill press. but if u don't have any of those, then the next grade would be a circular saw, a decent sander, and a drill. if u don't got those well then u should have a hand held jigsaw cutter, sand paper atleast, and a drill but at this point you're going to want to shoot yourself :lol: let's just say the quality of our work will show what kind of tools you used. if u got any more questions, just keep em coming.

[The Mullah]

thanks a lot, i'm wising up now.

what components should i be looking at? basically i love capcom and snk games, and also some tekken, is a p360 the best option?

the thread is massive, are there any links to where i can buy the internal bits like the stick, buttons and other stuff?

[Juggy]

I was wanting to ask... I got some spare time, but how long do you think it takes, estimated, to make a decent stick? I am totally new to this, but have some spare time, being layed off from work, so any opinions? Also, maybe an estimate price if you make it yourself? I remember reading some estimates, but what do you think? I plan on using a p360 stick, looking around on the happ site, I thought i would use concave (sp) buttons... I have no idea what I am getting into, so I thought I would ask for some estimates.

[Mulligan]

Originally posted by The Mullah
thanks a lot, i'm wising up now.

what components should i be looking at? basically i love capcom and snk games, and also some tekken, is a p360 the best option?

the thread is massive, are there any links to where i can buy the internal bits like the stick, buttons and other stuff?
ive read plenty of times that 360's suck for tekken cause it doesnt register neutral as well

[secretaznman]

The Mullah: p360 uses optical sensors instead of micro switches. this means that the p360 makes no clicking sounds while the super, competition, and ultimate do. if u love fighters, people say use the competition. i forget if its the super or the ultimate but 1 of them uses a soft spring for the broken in feel. buttons as i said before, ultimate(concave) and the competition(convex) are your choices. just use whatever is in ur arcade. again as i have said before, the p360 require a 5v source either by hacking your pcb for it or using a plug for it. for more info go to http://members.cox.net/joysticks/perfect_360.html ANYONE WITH QUESTIONS ON THE P360 GO THERE!!! for parts, the links were on the very first post. go to www.happcontrols.com or www.therealbobroberts.com . bob roberts doesn't carry p360's.

Juggy: :( sorry to hear bout the layoff. well anyways a raw estimate should be the cheapest around $40 to i guess $60-$75 if u screw up a bunch :lol: as i just told mullah, use the buttons ur arcade uses, if u don't go to arcades just flip a coin then i dunno. i personally use convex. about the p360 refer to my response to mullah. the price isn't so much the issue as the time and effort you'll have to put into it. if u love ur stick, ur stick will lover u back (that sounded kinda wrong ;) )

Mulligan: sorry dude i dunno, i've read someone else post about that a looong time ago but don't remember. if nobody can give u an answer soon, just post outside this thread.

and for everyone who doesn't even feel or think of looking at the links provided by rotendo on the first page here's the resources i used.

parts and adapters:
http://www.happcontrols.com
http://www.therealbobroberts.com
http://www.levelsix.com/products/pc/EMSUSB2.shtml

arcade stick related pages:
http://members.cox.net/joysticks/
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jdpyle1/arcade_sticks.htm
http://www.arcadecontrols.com/arcade.htm
http://wrongcrowd.com/arcade/
http://www.darkravenwind.com/cdvision/arcade.htm
http://syste.ms/joystick/
http://tobywong.50megs.com/
http://snake11417.tripod.com/main/

info on consoles:
http://www.gamesx.com/index2.htm

overlay help:
http://rainworld.com/psworkshop/

[Da Unknown]

Um.... hey. Sort of newbie stick maker with a highly newbie question:

I plan on changing out my Ultimate in my DC stick to a 360. However, I used one of those.... damn, what the hell do you call it.... barriers (that's it) to hook up everything. So how would I go about hooking up the 360 with it? No burning please, I would just like to know how it's done.

Any help is appreciated.

Marcus
"Taking time off from building that damn dance pad"

[secretaznman]

i don't use p360's myself but i'd imagine that you just replace ur ultimate direction connections with the p360's.

if ur hackin ur pcb for the 5v then:
you then have to make new connections to the barrier strip from the p360 for the hot and ground wire. find your 5v on ur pcb and then solder.

if ur usin an external adapter:
insteading of connecting the hot and ground to the barrier strip, wire those instead to the 5v adapter.

hope this isn't misinformation :lol:

[doujinshi_2001]

Check out INH's stick that he made.

http://insertnamehere.50megs.com/photo.html

I like the design, because it's made completely out of plexiglass. That's something you NEVER see out of the ordinary.

[secretaznman]

i think it's alright. i think the whole see through thing works better if the space is all filled up and it looks complex. just curious but can u buy tinted lexan or plexi? now that would be cool.

[SNAAKE]

Originally posted by secretaznman
i think it's alright. i think the whole see through thing works better if the space is all filled up and it looks complex. just curious but can u buy tinted lexan or plexi? now that would be cool.
sure you can.but tinted glass cost a lot.
and thick lexan would cost a whole lot.
:confused:

but the idea is cool.
I seen another one like this like 3 years ago.
cant find the pic but it looked VERY professional.
like a mass stick but all clear/see through. :eek:

[ashurax]

Yesterday I modded a redoctane box for a friend wid convex buttons and a competition stick. Thing is, the thick wood redoctane uses made the stick really short. I was thinking aout routing the joystick area to make the joystick taller, but I lack access to a router. Anyone knoe of an alternative way to get that joystick taller?

[FMJaguar]

Originally posted by ashurax
Yesterday I modded a redoctane box for a friend wid convex buttons and a competition stick. Thing is, the thick wood redoctane uses made the stick really short. I was thinking aout routing the joystick area to make the joystick taller, but I lack access to a router. Anyone knoe of an alternative way to get that joystick taller?

You would have to switch it to an ultimate and use the longer spacer. competitions only have one size spacer thats about as long as the ultimate one (the white plastic piece).

[Dreaded Fist]

has anyone placed an order from http://www.gamecabinetsinc.com ???

I place an order last week and they haven't email me back or anything abotu the status of my order, and unlike happs, theres no place to check your order status. Arggggggg now they're not replying to my email either.

[DeadReckoning]

On a ps2 controler is the power supply for rumble packs(link below) where you would hook in for power for a p360?

http://ctd.go-dedicated.com/images/PCB.jpg

[t3nken]

Question about the Mad Catz Dreamcast pad:

I bought one and disassembled it, and noticed that the two triggers and analog stick were soldered on. I couldn't remove the analog stick, so I cut off the cap above the box. As for the triggers, I just snapped them off the PCB.

Is there any chance this would've messed up the PCB? Theres no physical damage at all, I just removed the components for the analog controls.

I'd like to do the same thing to the black VMU connector, but theres about 30 pins I'd have to desolder (and I don't have any desoldering equipment)

[fluxcore]

Originally posted by t3nken
Question about the Mad Catz Dreamcast pad:

I bought one and disassembled it, and noticed that the two triggers and analog stick were soldered on. I couldn't remove the analog stick, so I cut off the cap above the box. As for the triggers, I just snapped them off the PCB.

Is there any chance this would've messed up the PCB? Theres no physical damage at all, I just removed the components for the analog controls.

I'd like to do the same thing to the black VMU connector, but theres about 30 pins I'd have to desolder (and I don't have any desoldering equipment)

Well, I've hacked two different versions of the Dreampad and haven't come across triggers that were soldered on... they came off with a bit of careful wrangling. I had to chop off the tip of the analog stick (the metal pin...) to fit it in one of my sticks, that doesn't do anything to the PCB at all. Should be sweet. If you actually got rid of the whole analog "box", though, I'm not so sure... that might cause a problem...

The pads seem to handle missing the mem card slots quite well though, I smashed off the second port to fit in a port of my own devising, and it works fine. Just be careful not to cross any of the pins...

Best of luck...

--flux

[t3nken]

Originally posted by fluxcore


Well, I've hacked two different versions of the Dreampad and haven't come across triggers that were soldered on... they came off with a bit of careful wrangling. I had to chop off the tip of the analog stick (the metal pin...) to fit it in one of my sticks, that doesn't do anything to the PCB at all. Should be sweet. If you actually got rid of the whole analog "box", though, I'm not so sure... that might cause a problem...


I tried to get rid of the whole box, but it was soldered on tight. I did what you did and just snapped the thumbstick cap portion off the box.


The pads seem to handle missing the mem card slots quite well though, I smashed off the second port to fit in a port of my own devising, and it works fine. Just be careful not to cross any of the pins...

Best of luck...

--flux

Another thing about the MadCatz: is there one universal ground for the PCB? CD_Vision's site mentions "very early" versions had two grounds for the board. I'm using a grey pad with blue buttons. From what I can see, the d-pad, buttons, and start are all connected to their own grounds; I can't tell if those grounds are connected to each other.

Thanks!

[delmari001]

i've taken it all apart. i'm using barrier strips for all 8 buttons. i can't figure out what i need to do with the start and select button. there's some weird connector...what do i do? any suggestions would be appreciated.

[secretaznman]

wierd connector? pictures would help.

[delmari001]

they're contactors sort of like for the joystick. i'll work on gettin a pic. when you press either start or select on the shadowblade it contacts the actuator. how do i rewire these or work these into the panel.

[Ton]

anyone know if there is another place i can solder onto for the
r-button on a sega dreamcast controller? I ripped the original place i was to solder onto.

[ashurax]

Question about P360 and PS1 controllers. I bought a cheap $5 Interact PS1 controller (widout analog sticks or rumble). Is it possible to wire up a P360 joystick to this? I remember hearing that all ps1 pads can have a P360 joystick hooked up to it. Anyone knoe?

[desistyle3]

yo...

u should ask dreaded fist about the p360's for ps1. I know it works because he wired up my stick that way. I just forgot where to connect it. All i remember is that there are 9 points to solder to and i think its the 5th one?

Dont listen to me though...just ask dreaded fist...he'll know...


peaace!

[DeadReckoning]

Of all the ps1/2 controllers I've tried(5 or 6 diffrent ones) I cannot find a single one that has an output of more than 3v(all but one only had 1v). Does the p360 have to have 5v or will less work? If it has to have 5v what controlers will supply this?

[Dreaded Fist]

just wire it to the 5th pin on the controlelr connector, usually the red wire coming from the connector, you can use a multimeter to be sure that it's the 5th pin. It's usually 3/5v but it'll work either way.

[DeadReckoning]

I cant figure out what I'm doing wrong. Everything is soddered and grounded. When I test it with my meter all the connections work,but when I actually hook it up to my psx nothing works. At one point the start button was working and nothing else was, but now I'm back to no buttons working. Any ideas what I might check to resolve this?

[secretaznman]

from the sounds of it, everything sounds good. i guess check to make sure you didn't cross any live and ground connections. but since ur already checked i assume that's not ur problem. the only thing i can suggest is just buy a new pcb since nothing else seems to work. u might have burned out something while soldering.

[itslog1]

yo whats up everyone..

an update with my project: things are looking good, i got the box built and painted. but i didn't drill the holes to mount the joystick or buttons yet.

so i got two questions
1. what is the standard spacing for the 6 button capcom fighter layout? and also how far should