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Septimus Prime
05-15-2009, 02:41 PM
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200905/confirmed-ninja-gaiden-3-planned-dual-release-likely.asp
Confirmed: Ninja Gaiden 3 Planned, Dual Platform Release Likely
New Team Ninja leader says the Ninja Gaiden series will continue, that the intention is to make it for "both audiences".
By Kikizo Staff
In an interview published today on Kikizo, the new leader of Tecmo's elite Team Ninja development studio, Yosuke Hayashi, has essentially confirmed Ninja Gaiden 3.
Although the PS3-exclusive Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 isn't even out of the door yet, Hayashi didn't avoid the question when asked about the future of the series.
Despite former Team Ninja boss Tomonobu Itagaki having previously stated that Ninja Gaiden II would be the final entry in the series, Hayashi told us in no uncertain terms: "we will continue to work towards a future for the series."
He added: "What the gamers are looking for is going to be the next chapter - the future of an outstanding series. We feel that we're in a position of being able to make that call... That calling is already there - we feel it".
In addition, while Sigma 2 will definitely remain PS3 exclusive (no DLC update for 360 owners or anything), Ninja Gaiden 3 seems likely to be a dual-platform release, at least if current thinking is anything to go by.
Hayashi stated that after Sigma 2, rather than do a 360 version of it, "we're going to have to push ourselves to the next level, and we are better off giving both audiences an entirely new game.
Elsewhere in the full interview, Hayashi talks about Itagaki things, the new features in Sigma 2, the Koei Tecmo merger, Japanese developers and plenty of other stuff.
360 exclusives are falling left and right! They're doomed! :rolleyes:
Now they get to hear how stupid this sounds. :lol:
Anyway, I'm kind of hyped.
Radiantsilvergun3
05-15-2009, 02:49 PM
If it's better balanced then NGII Vanilla then I'm stoked.
P. Gorath
05-15-2009, 03:05 PM
i thought this was going to be about dark sword of chaos...
MVC2FAN15
05-15-2009, 03:16 PM
I've only played the demo for Ninja Gaiden 2 and it was fun. Plan on getting this.
The Furious One
05-15-2009, 03:16 PM
360 exclusives are falling left and right! They're doomed! :rolleyes:
Not looking for a flame war but how did you come to that conclusion, if Sigma made it to 360 that would have been a huge kick in the teeth for PS3, it was always meant to be a PS3 exclusive.
Septimus Prime
05-15-2009, 03:20 PM
Not looking for a flame war but how did you come to that conclusion, if Sigma made it to 360 that would have been a huge kick in the teeth for PS3, it was always meant to be a PS3 exclusive.
I'm just saying that's what people say whenever a former PlayStation® exclusive IP goes multi-platform.
Ragnog
05-15-2009, 03:21 PM
Im a big fan of the Ninja Gaiden games so im really hyped
I'm just saying that's what people say whenever a former PlayStation® exclusive IP goes multi-platform.
true but i think its just the way things are going in the gaming industry...soon enough it will be just like the 90's again...same games just diffrent platforms
The Furious One
05-15-2009, 03:26 PM
I'm just saying that's what people say whenever a former PlayStation® exclusive IP goes multi-platform.
Gotcha, its true though, devs haven't exactly been very loyal to Sony. :nono:
Septimus Prime
05-15-2009, 03:27 PM
Im a big fan of the Ninja Gaiden games so im really hyped
true but i think its just the way things are going in the gaming industry...soon enough it will be just like the 90's again...same games just diffrent platforms
I think what we're seeing, actually, is the clashing of two different strategies. MS's buying or coercing third parties to make multi-platform games is definitely helping them out in sales in the short term in this territory, while Sony is taking Nintendo's old, proven long term strategy of investing in first and second party, where the games will always be exclusive. Time will tell which one is better.
jimmy1200
05-15-2009, 03:32 PM
nice. gotta go buy rent gaiden 2 again. didnt finish it a couple weeks back. i fucks with ninjas my nigga
final_cut
05-15-2009, 03:32 PM
I hope this new Ninja Gaiden plays totally differently.
jimmy1200
05-15-2009, 03:59 PM
i want more customizations for outfit. like a ton, and a ton of fucking ninja powers. i want more mythological creatures in the game from japanese mythology and legend. need to be able to like stick to walls, and just walk on them shits, a la naruto. what else. hmmm. i have more demands after i rent the game again tonight
Dios <-X->
05-15-2009, 04:00 PM
Ninja gaiden 3? awesome. cant wait.
Million
05-15-2009, 04:10 PM
Hopefully, this will actually be fun beyond the game's "Normal" difficulty setting. NG2 was an asshole of a game.
At the very least, give me a camera system that isn't always trying to zoom in close to show me Ryu's pelvic region, while he constantly dies from shit I had no way of seeing. Give me a camera system that doesn't purposely look at my feet to make sure I can't see the 8000 missiles that so-called "ninja" just launched from behind some boxes....from his rocket launcher that never, ever runs out of goddamn ammo.
SuperFreak
05-15-2009, 05:13 PM
I think this game could be good if there isnt any of those ninja bitches that shoot the fucken 100 missles at once.:mad:
platinum_pinoy
05-15-2009, 05:23 PM
I'm just saying that's what people say whenever a former PlayStation® exclusive IP goes multi-platform.
This and Bioshock 2 are great news for the PS3. I enjoyed the first one (on the PC) and don't plan on upgrading my vid card nor buying a 360 for that matter.
Sonichuman
05-15-2009, 07:41 PM
Well...Itagaki ain't there no mo so this news isn't surprising at all lol. Telling you it's really dumb to be a fan boy these days.
i thought this was going to be about dark sword of chaos...
You mean Ancient Ship of Doom :wgrin:
The old games had such dope music. Wish the new NGs upheld that along with the high difficulty (i.e. frustating controls/game mechanics).
Rico!
05-15-2009, 08:17 PM
Wow I didn't even hear about NG Sigma 2 until right now. Can't wait to pick it up. I hope they remove that dumb ass dash thingy and bring back the roll.
DietSoap
05-15-2009, 08:23 PM
Badass. Hopefully they'll either revamp it all over again, or cut all the bullshit they brought with NG2.
And as Sonicchu mentioned, it should prove interesting how it turns out without Itagaki.
Spinning Beat
05-15-2009, 08:26 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the rocket launcher ninjas are a joke plus easy targets? :confused:
Anyway I'm hyped no such thing as too much NG!
HNIC Mike
05-15-2009, 08:53 PM
Long as they dont put no fuckin rocket launchers in the game. I liked the first 3-4 missions in 2, but as soon as they start puttin robots and shit in.........
Sonichuman
05-15-2009, 08:55 PM
'You think that's hard!? I'm the tutorial level! THAT'S THE NEXT LEVEL OVER THERE!!!'
Spinning Beat
05-15-2009, 08:59 PM
'You think that's hard!? I'm the tutorial level! THAT'S THE NEXT LEVEL OVER THERE!!!'
Oh God! HELP ME!
GOD CAN'T HELP YOU NOW!!!!
AlphaDragoon
05-15-2009, 09:50 PM
You mean Ancient Ship of Doom :wgrin:
The old games had such dope music. Wish the new NGs upheld that along with the high difficulty (i.e. frustating controls/game mechanics).
They seriously need to take out the fifty billion rocket launcher ninjas, the "dramatic action" aka slowdown they don't care to fix, the pointless BS weapons, shitty camera, clunky controls, and work the combat system so it's not "spam Flying Sparrow and pray to God you live" at higher difficulties.
And on a minor nitpick, bring back Aileen (Irene) kthx. It's not like you Team NINJA motherfuckers don't love drawing new women to ogle anyway.
jae hoon
05-15-2009, 10:00 PM
Camera needs to be fixed, a constant visual on Ryus nutsack is not needed. And fuck those infinite ammo rocket launcher ninjas. If you are going to make the game hard at least make it where it is fair and not computer cheating bullshit.
orochizoolander
05-15-2009, 10:16 PM
ninja gaiden ds>>>>>the rest...actually njds shits on most other games period imo. It's one of the few games that actually benefits from stylus control and it has NO camera issues and the combat is much more fun:rock:
1 was pretty good and 2 was fun when it wasn't being cheap so I'm sure 3 will be alright but I'm not really hyped considering games nowadays worth my money are being pumped out left n right so by the time nj3 launches there will probably be 10 other games I'd rather buy.
Million
05-15-2009, 10:20 PM
Oh yeahhhhh that's another thing! I agree that Irene was way hotter than that lightbulb-head blondie from NG2. At least Elizabet fulfilled the hotness quota, so it wasn't a total loss.
Also, they shouldn't be ashamed of taking a page or 2 from Ninja Blade Ken's playbook of action-hero swagger. That dude is what a badass super-ninja is supposed to be. There was barely any "HOLY SHIT!" moments of awesome in NG2, compared to Ken in NB who stopped a plane by himself...or how 'bout the time this dude caught a motorcycle in midair after it was puked up by a giant monster, he rides it onto a bus that was also puked up, flips and uses momentum to throw it back in the monster's face with an explosive kunai thrown to the gas tank so it explodes in that sumbitch's face. In another boss finisher, he rides a missile like it's a surfboard, turning up a building, back around towards the monster, then backflips off while the missile kills the thing. That's what I'm talking about, folks. Quality Ninja Entertainment. He's unfuckwitable.
HNIC Mike
05-15-2009, 10:23 PM
Oh yeahhhhh that's another thing! I agree that Irene was way hotter than that lightbulb-head blondie from NG2. At least Elizabet fulfilled the hotness quota, so it wasn't a total loss.
Also, they shouldn't be ashamed of taking a page or 2 from Ninja Blade Ken's playbook of action-hero swagger. That dude is what a badass super-ninja is supposed to be. There was barely any "HOLY SHIT!" moments of awesome in NG2, compared to Ken in NB who stopped a plane by himself...or how 'bout the time this dude caught a motorcycle in midair after it was puked up by a giant monster, he rides it onto a bus that was also puked up, flips and uses momentum to throw it back in the monster's face with an explosive kunai thrown to the gas tank so it explodes in that sumbitch's face. That's what I'm talking about, folks. Quality Ninja Entertainment.
so, i take it you liked that game? how was it tho, really? i hear a lot of mixed shit, but im kinda drawn in by the big-ass bosses
Million
05-15-2009, 10:34 PM
They went overboard with the "QTE" thing though. It could be much better with less of those, and perhaps a deeper combo system, though what was there was "good enough", imo...I'm fairly easy to please, especially when there's over-the-top action scenes going on.
Really, Ryu's antics are actually boring in comparison. I can't even remember him doing anything "HOLY SHIT!" status in NG2, except the awesome scene where you fight your way through a horde of enemies up a long flight of stairs on your way to fight a boss. Ken from NB never lets up...he's always putting on a show.
Radiantsilvergun3
05-15-2009, 10:35 PM
ninja gaiden ds>>>>>the rest...actually njds shits on most other games period imo. It's one of the few games that actually benefits from stylus control and it has NO camera issues and the combat is much more fun:rock:
1 was pretty good and 2 was fun when it wasn't being cheap so I'm sure 3 will be alright but I'm not really hyped considering games nowadays worth my money are being pumped out left n right so by the time nj3 launches there will probably be 10 other games I'd rather buy. NGDS is pretty cool but it doesn't even touch NGB.
HNIC Mike
05-15-2009, 10:36 PM
They went overboard with the "QTE" thing though. It could be much better with less of those, and perhaps a deeper combo system, though what was there was "good enough", imo...I'm fairly easy to please, especially when there's over-the-top action scenes going on.
Really, Ryu's antics are actually boring in comparison.
How many rocket launcher ninja/robots do you fight. anything less than 10, and im in
Million
05-15-2009, 10:42 PM
I don't think there are any rocket-launcher guys.. there are mutants that shoot an energy-rock type of projectile from their arms. It's definitely easy-mode status though with that situation since the projectiles are kind of slow, and they can be hit back to the enemies. There's a mutated helicopter(yep) that shoots actual missiles, but they can be hit back too.
y'know...mix the over-the-top, "whoah." antics of Ninja Blade (and the better camera that actually lets you see things!), NB's customization taken to a deeper level, and the larger moveset from a modern Ninja Gaiden game, and you'd have possibly the perfect ninja game.
Radiantsilvergun3
05-15-2009, 10:47 PM
Capcom needs to hury up with Modern Day Strider. For reals.
HNIC Mike
05-15-2009, 10:49 PM
Sounds good to me, think ima go get it tomorrow. I could use some hack n slash fun.
Spinning Beat
05-15-2009, 10:54 PM
Capcom needs to hury up with Modern Day Strider. For reals.
This I can agree with 100%
HNIC Mike
05-15-2009, 11:03 PM
This I can agree with 100%
What is this game you speak of?
mysticnamja
05-15-2009, 11:19 PM
This and Bioshock 2 are great news for the PS3. I enjoyed the first one (on the PC) and don't plan on upgrading my vid card nor buying a 360 for that matter.
yah i don't plan on upgrading my pc ever again unless parts break.
i spent 800 in like 2008 and it is not good enough today.
there are no PC exclusive games worth shelling out 1000 bux for.... maybe diablo 3 but in the end not really.
ps3 however, will have this, and fight night round 4... ha ha. consoles for the gaming.
Septimus Prime
05-15-2009, 11:34 PM
A quick aside: Sigma 2 will not use the (suck ass) NG2 engine. It's going to run on an updated version of the Sigma engine.
InfiniDragon
05-15-2009, 11:54 PM
So in other words, no "dramatic action" (read: slowdown) at the part with the hundred ninja going to fight Elizabet. :lol:
AlphaDragoon
05-15-2009, 11:55 PM
Also, they shouldn't be ashamed of taking a page or 2 from Ninja Blade Ken's playbook of action-hero swagger. That dude is what a badass super-ninja is supposed to be. There was barely any "HOLY SHIT!" moments of awesome in NG2, compared to Ken in NB who stopped a plane by himself...or how 'bout the time this dude caught a motorcycle in midair after it was puked up by a giant monster, he rides it onto a bus that was also puked up, flips and uses momentum to throw it back in the monster's face with an explosive kunai thrown to the gas tank so it explodes in that sumbitch's face. In another boss finisher, he rides a missile like it's a surfboard, turning up a building, back around towards the monster, then backflips off while the missile kills the thing. That's what I'm talking about, folks. Quality Ninja Entertainment. He's unfuckwitable.
Well, back when Ryu was cool (read: the NES NG games before that assclown Itagaki added the DOA bullshit) he took down a fucking interplanetary warship by himself. That was pretty baller.
Radiantsilvergun3
05-16-2009, 12:09 AM
What is this game you speak of?An old Arcade game. Was released on the Genesis and got a sequel on PS1. Very bad ass. Striders in MVC1/2.
i thought this was going to be about dark sword of chaos...
I thought the third one was The Ancient Ship of Doom.
Shimmerman
05-16-2009, 04:31 AM
NG2 was unfinished for sure. But it was still a good game. the one thing that made me stop playing the game though was the random slowdown bullshit. That was the nail in the coffin so to speak. You can't have a enjoyable high octane third person action game with slow downs every time the fucking screen gets busy. That was bs.
-SuGaR-
05-16-2009, 05:15 AM
Um, isn't Team Ninja no longer apart of Tecmo? So, won't that mean this game is made by another dev. team? So most likely, this game will either be an improvement or total shit.
AkumaTX
05-16-2009, 08:51 AM
I just bought part 2 yesterday and never finished part 1 hahaha.
Spinning Beat
05-16-2009, 08:52 AM
Um, isn't Team Ninja no longer apart of Tecmo? So, won't that mean this game is made by another dev. team? So most likely, this game will either be an improvement or total shit.
Itagaki and part of team ninja left with him, but the whole team ninja didn't depart from Tecmo. Actually the guy who worked on Sigma for ps3 is still there as well as some other members. He and his team are the ones developing sigma 2 for ps3. Yosuke Hayashi (the developer of sigma 2) was part of team ninja for a while and has worked with Itagaki in the past. So he has prior experience.
300 lb Eugene
05-16-2009, 09:22 AM
" RYU!!"
"IRENE"
"Ryu..."
"IRREEEENE!!!!"
:lol: N.G.2 takes me back
CapMaster
05-16-2009, 09:44 AM
I'm hyped for this, I just hope they take their time with it to make it as good as can be. After all the complaints about the second one, I think it's possible.
Xero Kaiser
05-16-2009, 10:47 AM
I'm just saying that's what people say whenever a former PlayStation® exclusive IP goes multi-platform.
How was NG an exclusive when both games got PS3 ports?
imheretoaskgorath
05-16-2009, 10:56 AM
cool game IMHO
FurryCurry
05-16-2009, 12:13 PM
I'd like to see it get back to platforming and not just balls-to-the-wall action.
Radiantsilvergun3
05-16-2009, 12:23 PM
How was NG an exclusive when both games got PS3 ports?Technically the Sigma games are not ports as they run on a completely different engine.
I'd like to see it get back to platforming and not just balls-to-the-wall action.Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu lol. All i can think of is all the crappy platforming in NG1 (Xbox).
Rhio2k
05-16-2009, 12:30 PM
How was NG an exclusive when both games got PS3 ports?
It got UPGRADED for the port. They didn't just toss it onto the ps3. It was changed.
DeathReaper47
05-16-2009, 12:31 PM
What is this game you speak of?
You don't know what Strider is?
GTFO this website :tdown:
FurryCurry
05-16-2009, 12:36 PM
Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu lol. All i can think of is all the crappy platforming in NG1 (Xbox).
Oh dude I agree. But then again, that game and it's sequel were built from the ground up with fighting in mind. If the game becomes about quickly killing foes and getting the hell out of danger then I think it could be sweet.
You don't know what Strider is?
GTFO this website :tdown:
Agreed.
epikbeat
05-16-2009, 12:50 PM
I hope this new Ninja Gaiden plays totally differently.
Yeah. I didn't like how NG2 was a straight beat em up. I want something with a little more strategy instead of just leveling up your sword to max and spamming buttons.
Radiantsilvergun3
05-16-2009, 12:51 PM
Spamming buttons gets you killed in NG....O.o The whole things pretty much placement strategy....
epikbeat
05-16-2009, 01:01 PM
Spamming buttons gets you killed in NG....O.o The whole things pretty much placement strategy....
That's not what I meant, plus, I beat the game in 2 days just spamming buttons. Maybe I just got lucky, or I'm right, but this game needs strategy where you actually have to think about what you're doing, not just playing the game through trial and error to find the best spot to spam attacks all day.. If that's what you meant that is.
If I'm thinking the wrong thing then sorry, but shit I just played that shit, and didn't feel any challenge at all.
Radiantsilvergun3
05-16-2009, 01:12 PM
Well the game has higher difficulties for those who found the standered set to easy you know:tup:
The higher difficulties are where the fun is really found where swallows get blocked and countered and the like. UT chaining never stops working though hehe. But still perhaps try a higher difficulty level if you found the base difficulty easy.
But you be lien if you tell me you beat stuff like Alma while beating on the buttons.
Spinning Beat
05-16-2009, 01:30 PM
That's not what I meant, plus, I beat the game in 2 days just spamming buttons. Maybe I just got lucky, or I'm right, but this game needs strategy where you actually have to think about what you're doing, not just playing the game through trial and error to find the best spot to spam attacks all day.. If that's what you meant that is.
If I'm thinking the wrong thing then sorry, but shit I just played that shit, and didn't feel any challenge at all.
Thats how I beat easy (acolyte) as well. There was no challenge. When I go back to it. There is still no challenge. Not even warrior is hard. Then I got woke the fuck up on mentor when that shit wasn't working any more and I started getting instant killed. I got bitch slapped on master ninja ( I still get bitch slapped on master ninja, even after I beat it).
There are so many variables to a fight and you can do it almost anyway. While of course it is easy to just find a hiding spot and spam shit all day. Some places leave you right out in the open and you need to start advancing safely. There's tons of strategy and reaction in this game.
Your evasive skills are put to the test. All that shit that was just a tap on the shoulder is now fucking brutal. They include suicide grabs, mage grabs, mage chanting, incendiary shurikens, grabs in general, the little purple green and yellow demon things jumping on you. The list goes on. Everything hurts. Everything wants to kill you. You have to know the patterns of your enemies.
How and when to dodge what's thrown at you.
Sometimes you have to know spawning points to give yourself a head start.
I'd seriously like to see you "mash buttons" in chapter 11 on master ninja (hell, even mentor). You wouldn't make it to the first save. Other than the wind ninpo maxed out, "mashing buttons" = you die.
Edit: Radiant, I want to ask. Do you actually like NG2 or do you hate it? Sometimes I see you say negative stuff about it. Sometimes positive most of the time it's negative though.
AlterGenesis
05-16-2009, 01:31 PM
No more water levels please. That shit made me sick.
Million
05-16-2009, 01:37 PM
I'd seriously like to see you "mash buttons" in chapter 11 on master ninja (hell, even mentor). You wouldn't make it to the first save. The funny thing to me is how this isn't even an exaggeration. I never made it to Master Ninja, but on Mentor at least, you actually can get slaughtered on that first fight on the first stage...yes, you can seriously die before the first save spot. It just starts out owning your ass like a slave on a plantation.
jabhadouken
05-16-2009, 01:56 PM
yah i don't plan on upgrading my pc ever again unless parts break.
i spent 800 in like 2008 and it is not good enough today.
there are no PC exclusive games worth shelling out 1000 bux for.... maybe diablo 3 but in the end not really.
ps3 however, will have this, and fight night round 4... ha ha. consoles for the gaming.
Diablo 3 is definitely worth it.
That, and CS4, Painter XI, etc.
I'm gonna drop sooo much on a new PC for it.
But in general... yeah.
Console ftw.
(As it should be.)
Biolink
05-16-2009, 02:03 PM
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200905/confirmed-ninja-gaiden-3-planned-dual-release-likely.asp
360 exclusives are falling left and right! They're doomed! :rolleyes:
Now they get to hear how stupid this sounds. :lol:
Anyway, I'm kind of hyped.
Not to start a flame war or anything, but I don't think it exactly works both ways.
Pertaining to the United States at least, 360 outsells Ps3(Though the gap is closing).
360's will sell regardless in the United States. It's the Ps3 that actually needs exclusives to close the gap in the United States
360 is more of a multi-platform console anyways.
Vynce
05-16-2009, 02:08 PM
I feel bad for Sep. There's simply no way he could have anticipated his comments resulting in more 360/PS3 bullshit.
jabhadouken
05-16-2009, 02:09 PM
I feel bad for Sep. There's simply no way he could have anticipated his comments resulting in more 360/PS3 bullshit.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Radiantsilvergun3
05-16-2009, 02:23 PM
Edit: Radiant, I want to ask. Do you actually like NG2 or do you hate it? Sometimes I see you say negative stuff about it. Sometimes positive most of the time it's negative though.Hehehe i know i can be confusing about this game because one second I'll be slamming it the next telling someone they are way off base and wrong about the quality of the game. The truth is I have a love hate relationship with this game. It does a lot of things right and when everything clicks the games a ton of fun and joy to play and be challenged by. The thing is far too many times things don't click right or even come close to working in a way that I and many other would consider even fun to deal with. In NG1 i had a lot of fun with Master Ninja Mode. It was a lot of fun and challenging and made me rework all my strategies and approach things from a different angle or just flat out stop doing things on certain foes (Flying Swallow was the first thing to go on higher difficulties of NG/B/S). I don't ever really get this feeling in NGII. The same strategies work for the most part you just have to abuse things like I-Frames to the inth degree and never stop moving while dealing with explosions and projectiles and slowdown up the ass. Then there are the fights that are boring and rely entirely on the bow and make me yawn. The bosses pretty much all suck where as i enjoyed a good deal of the bosses in NG1. Alma's a great boss as is Doku and quite a few others. The only bosses i really enjoy fighting in NGII is the Scyth Werewolf Volf and Elizabet. Genshin's fun the first two times but the 3rd fight is a repeat of the first on an awkward slope making some things not work like they should or just hard to do (On landing anything is tough in this fight) and Genshin 4 is a tanking ass hole and no fun at all.
Half the time i feel like Itagaki set out to make a challenging fun game (I usually feel this way when fighting Ninjas and a hand full of Fiends) that I would WANT to play and the other half the time i feel like he's trolling me in the worst way possible. Those exploding jelly fish....Seriously? I stopped playing for a week after defeating the Big Bat Fiend for a second time in the lava pit in Chapter 11, went to run across the lava to save and was killed by an exploding jelly fish I COULDN'T SEE through the lava and died and had to fight the boss again. I felt like i had been trolled by an ass hole and since the guy who made the game was Itagaki I knew the ass hole part was right.
Xero Kaiser
05-16-2009, 02:52 PM
It got UPGRADED for the port. They didn't just toss it onto the ps3. It was changed.
An upgraded port is still a port. Hell, lots of ports get upgrades, I don't recall that ever making them new games. Was the PS2 version of RE4 something new? Was the PS3 version of Bioshock something other than a port?
Radiantsilvergun3
05-16-2009, 02:59 PM
An upgraded port is still a port. Hell, lots of ports get upgrades, I don't recall that ever making them new games. Was the PS2 version of RE4 something new? Was the PS3 version of Bioshock something other than a port?Ninja Gaiden Sigma is running on a completely different engine from NG/B So it's not a port. Its a rebuild which makes it not a port. I;m sorry but you're wrong about this one.
DietSoap
05-16-2009, 03:49 PM
I'd like to see it get back to platforming and not just balls-to-the-wall action. Agreed 100%. Then again, I just miss platforming in general. :sad:
AlphaDragoon
05-16-2009, 03:51 PM
I feel bad for Sep. There's simply no way he could have anticipated his comments resulting in more 360/PS3 bullshit.
Yes, I don't know how it could have turned into a another console war bullshit thread with such amazingly neutral statements. :rofl:
But for real, people who wanna bitch about it, take that console business elsewhere. We're busy talking about how terrible NG2's camera and difficulty is.
Radiantsilvergun3
05-16-2009, 03:57 PM
Yes, I don't know how it could have turned into a another console war bullshit thread with such amazingly neutral statements. :rofl:
But for real, people who wanna bitch about it, take that console business elsewhere. We're busy talking about how terrible NG2's camera and difficulty is.Fer serious.
jabhadouken
05-16-2009, 04:43 PM
Agreed 100%. Then again, I just miss platforming in general. :sad:
I beat the first two on NES.
You?
Good times - hard times.
Fucking bats.
JuniorMints
05-16-2009, 06:05 PM
i have NGII and it was pretty fuckign awesome, but when i heard that Sigma 2 was coming out and the features, i wanted to throw that shit in the trash!
WRRRRRRRRRRRY?!
epikbeat
05-16-2009, 06:18 PM
I'd seriously like to see you "mash buttons" in chapter 11 on master ninja (hell, even mentor). You wouldn't make it to the first save. Other than the wind ninpo maxed out, "mashing buttons" = you die.
Yeah the same strategy you used on easier modes probably wouldn't work at that level, but that's out of the range I'm talking about. That kind of shit they up the damage and health or whatever of your opponents and shit which definitely does force you to come up with a new button mashing strategy.
I just want something a little more strategical in this game, and then go ahead and up the level, make the AI a little smarter instead of mindless drones just out to kill you.
I mean in the end, it was fun just to play the game and kill people, but they could have added more.
They need a NG style Stryder Hiryu game.
Spinning Beat
05-16-2009, 07:09 PM
Yeah the same strategy you used on easier modes probably wouldn't work at that level, but that's out of the range I'm talking about. That kind of shit they up the damage and health or whatever of your opponents and shit which definitely does force you to come up with a new button mashing strategy.
I just want something a little more strategical in this game, and then go ahead and up the level, make the AI a little smarter instead of mindless drones just out to kill you.
I mean in the end, it was fun just to play the game and kill people, but they could have added more.
Theres tons of things you can do. Here are some examples:
Say you take a guy to the air with the Dragon sword using XY. Theres some guy right behind you in perfect condition. You do XXX while in the air and you take off an arm. What do you do? Theres three options:
You can finish with a blade of nirrti or izuna drop for the kill. This will take care of one guy but the guy behind you will fuck you up. The blade of nirrti and ID is two options. The third option is to cancel the combo and go into On landing X. On landing X is an omni directional technique that has a high chance to remove a leg. You think....can I take a chance and do on landing X to hit both people and take off a leg from the current target thus killing him? Remember two limbs gone=death in this game. If you do on landing X and you kill the first guy you can now take your focus to the next guy.
As on landing X is read as the first strike of X for the dragon sword in this game. You can take the next guy into the air for an izuna drop. Efficiently disposing of both threats. No amount of button mashing will ever put that thought into your head. Hell, button mashing wouldn't even tell you what the hell on landing X is...
Say you are using the dragon sword to do an XXY to take off an arm. Then going to follow up with an obliteration technique. What happens when the guy who loses his arm falls back and two of his buddies close in on the center. Now you have two additional threats as well as the guy who is missing a limb. The guy missing a limb is a serious threat. Now he can suicide grab you and take a large portion of your life. What you could have done is extended XXY and do a XXY -> Y.
The last part is a wide range frontal sweep that will dismember any one in front of you and to the left or the right. That is a method of crowd control and you have disabled 3 or 4 ninjas. Good job. XXY -> Y has more of a chance of taking off a leg. A legless enemy is far less mobile than one missing an arm. Easier to obliterate and take advantage of. An armless guy can still jump, roll around, and evade your attempts to resume your assault.
Are there walls in the arena? If yes you have unlocked two new pages in your book of options. The guillotine throw and the wall attack. The guillotine throw is so good. Once you throw someone into a wall they lose a limb and you can obliterate them. However some weapons just miss while the enemy is down and you try an OT.
Wall attacks for the most part have invincibility frames as well as on-landing status. When an attack has on landing status you can kill or disable one guy. Then get a UT out there (if there is essence near by) as soon as you're finished landing.
That's not even all of it. That's not even close. With 8 weapons, fleshed out move sets and techniques that have their own purposes. Advantages and disadvantages. There is a lot to what you can do. Especially versus human enemies. While you get limited more and more as you go up in difficulty. You don't have to spam the same attacks over and over again. That just makes it easier and the ride less bumpy. You don't have to abuse hiding spots, UT's, OT's, flying swallows or whatever token broken move your current weapon has.
There is a lot that is impossible to do by simply button mashing. Well hey, I have typed entirely too much and need to shut the hell up now.
BATTLEHAMSTER
05-17-2009, 04:40 PM
Wow. Cool moves!
Septimus Prime
05-18-2009, 01:10 PM
Not to start a flame war or anything, but I don't think it exactly works both ways.
Pertaining to the United States at least, 360 outsells Ps3(Though the gap is closing).
360's will sell regardless in the United States. It's the Ps3 that actually needs exclusives to close the gap in the United States
360 is more of a multi-platform console anyways.
Here's what you alluded to but didn't really bring up: 360 and its software library sells like garbage in every territory other than this one, and at the end of the day, aside from first person shooters and a few other exceptions, all multi-platform games end up selling better on the competition globally. Obviously I can't share numbers with you here because that would breach my NDA, and bad things would happen to me.
But here's the thing. A lot of games, for whatever reason, end up being 360 exclusive despite them being targeted at foreign demographics, and they end up selling like shit. For example, look at Star Ocean 4. Its sales were pathetic for something with its brand recognition, developer, and publisher (179k in the first two weeks, as opposed to Star Ocean 3—which also had pretty bad sales—sold over 300k in the same amount of time). Ninja Gaiden seems to me like it's more targeted toward non-US gamers.
I feel bad for Sep. There's simply no way he could have anticipated his comments resulting in more 360/PS3 bullshit.
I know, right? :lol:
FiveTwelve
05-18-2009, 01:40 PM
I'd love to see a new NG game but could this one have a half decent story? How about a camera that isn't constantly saying "fuck you" with its rotations? Oh, and I'd settle for half-realistic women as opposed to the leather-clad whores they make over at Team Ninja. Jesus guys, I'm no prude but Jesus...
Sonichuman
05-18-2009, 01:44 PM
Edit:
Ninja Gaiden movie was a fake...thank god
DavDz
05-18-2009, 02:30 PM
Ninja Gaiden seems to me like it's more targeted toward non-US gamers.
As far as I can remember, Ninja Gaiden has always been targeted to US gamers.
The original Ninja Gaiden Sigma only sold 90K in Japan. The reality is that Ninja Gaiden is just not that popular in Japan. Most of Ninja Gaiden's sales are from the US
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