mvc2: Anti Blackheart/Doom

[Storming Flower]

I know most of the good players know how to get pass doom/bh/aaa (cammy/capcom/cyc/cable) by now.

However, I still ocassionally have trouble with the basic doom/bh stuff such as jump back fierce+bh aaa super jump rain photons and demon/rocks. and i know a lot of people still do. I already checked individual threads and I couldn't find stuff So here's a thread devoted for anti bh/doom. I

I am an ok player and I use basically the top 4 guys with top teams such as msp, team scrub and i'm starting to pick up iron man and sentinel by themselves.

I'm slowly learning how to beat them with magneto and storm but still have trouble with sentinel and iron man and here's where i need people's help.

Anyway my questions are. how does a sentinel beat dr doom/bh/aaa? people claim sent is doom's worst matchup is like 10-0. I'm not so experienced yet in fighting doom. The same with a stalling Bh/capcom aaa. I have problems fighting a doom/bh trap and bh who jump back fierce call aaa when i get close and super jump afterwards. I cannot try and stay on top of doom forever and stomp blindly when he has capcom aaa and its hard to get in when he has bh aaa. you can't wavedash under dooms j. fierce. same goes with a stalling bh. in some matchs i've spent forever trying to catch up to a running doom and a stalling bh until i get them to corner.

I went through the sentinel thread from pages 1-15 and there were about 3 or 4 questions on how to beat bh, yet NO ONE ever bothered to answer because they were too busy talking abotu fast fly combos.

also how does a sent/storm or cable/capcom beat another sent/bh/capcom? seems like bh aaa stops flying.

I also have problems fighting bh aaa with iron man. I posted in the iron man thread but everyone is still too busy talking about combos. I'm fighting a cable/bhaaa/sent drones or other aaa. I'm getting caught in cables deadly traps with them. Could anyone give me help i'm using ironman/doom/cable.

[Dasrik]

Originally posted by Storming Flower
Anyway my questions are. how does a sentinel beat dr doom/bh/aaa? people claim sent is doom's worst matchup is like 10-0. I'm not so experienced yet in fighting doom. The same with a stalling Bh/capcom aaa. I have problems fighting a doom/bh trap and bh who jump back fierce call aaa when i get close and super jump afterwards. I cannot try and stay on top of doom forever and stomp blindly when he has capcom aaa and its hard to get in when he has bh aaa. you can't wavedash under dooms j. fierce. same goes with a stalling bh. in some matchs i've spent forever trying to catch up to a running doom and a stalling bh until i get them to corner.Whoever said Sentinel owns Doom 10-0 doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. (Yes, I know I said this once.) This gets dependent on the assists and BH/Commando/Cyke/Cammy are really good assists for Doom to take on Sentinel with.

Sent's low fierce is a hella good move, though, because it takes out Blackheart AND will hit Doom if he does jump fierce. Go into HSF if you think you can pin Doom. You don't want to give Doom any breathing room to start throwing pink shit on you.

If he superjumps, superjump with him, he just gave you an opportunity to get in on him. You can dodge/pushblock his finger laser and easily fly above or around photons to hit him and begin a stomp pattern. Watch out for jump shorts and respond with a fly short of your own.

The key to fighting Doom is to not fly until you're in on him. Otherwise, it gives a smart Doom player an opportunity to pin you in place or worse, APA.

Blackheart is substantially easier. He can get clever and throw jab infernos, and that's the extent of his anti-Sentinel abilities. Otherwise, low fierce is never a bad thing to go for, and if he starts trying to throw crap on you, position yourself appropriately and smack him as he comes down. Be careful of "random" air judgement days when doing this.

also how does a sent/storm or cable/capcom beat another sent/bh/capcom? seems like bh aaa stops flying.You can use Storm assist to snuff BH's assist. Cable should focus on chipping Sentinel and keeping the pressure on, IMO.

I also have problems fighting bh aaa with iron man. I posted in the iron man thread but everyone is still too busy talking about combos. I'm fighting a cable/bhaaa/sent drones or other aaa. I'm getting caught in cables deadly traps with them. Could anyone give me help i'm using ironman/doom/cable. Iron Man sucks, don't use him unless your name is Julius or Tony. :lol:

Seriously, you're probably going to have to not go crazy with smart bombs. Block BH assist THEN do smart bombs. You can airdash up, drop bombs, then fly on Cable and this works pretty well. And don't forget, you can always build meter and counter in Cable, this shuts down a lot of traps.

[Rairu]

yeah doom has worse matchups than sentinel.

[Storming Flower]

thank you very much for helping me dasrik, thread was viewed 42 times and yet no one responded. no one responded much in the threads either, i'm guessing no one really knew how to answer, and in the threads all they do is talk about combos. but thanks a lot i appreciate it.

[xBlackheartx]

Originally posted by Rairu
yeah doom has worse matchups than sentinel. \


thats not true at all ive seen many times Dr.Doom/Blackheart/CapCom woop up on sentinel..........just pink lazer that shit and call capcom out (aaa hopefully)

[BshidoHEAT]

Originally posted by xBlackheartx
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thats not true at all ive seen many times Dr.Doom/Blackheart/CapCom woop up on sentinel..........just pink lazer that shit and call capcom out (aaa hopefully)

Watching too much Eder eh? :lol:

Yeah... Doom/BH can be pretty annoying to Sent.. but Sent can c.fp xx rp BH. Doom's j.fp will just trade with Sent's c.fp at best.. the worst thing that can happen is Sent can c.fp xx rp xx hsf pinning down Doom and killing BH at the same time :(