Rogue Resets

[DrumlinerJoe]

Hey ya'll Rogue users out there. I'd like to know if ya'll know any tips for resetting combos using assists for big damage. Most of the time my assists are usually Tronn Proj, Psy AAA, Doom AAA, and sometimes IM AAA.

[white shadow]

I can't use IM AA well (can u give me some combos with Rogue IM AA pleez!!!:p ) but I do know 1 reset:

*Opponent in corner* Call IM AA s.lp, s.lk, smp, s.mk *Repulsor Blast hits twice* Aerial Power Drain (throws back into corner), c.fp,*Call IM AA again*, j.fp, d.j.rk. MMM CHUNKALICIOUS!!! :D :cool: :D

A cool midsreen guard break with Rogue is: *Call Sent G* j.lk, j.mp, j.fp (opponent lands into Sent's Drones) Launch into AC!!!:D :) :D

BTW please go to the Rogue Thread #.2 so we can talk strats 'n' stuff and if you can contact Vegita-X, ROC, Tanion, & the others to come here too!!!:( :p

[DrumlinerJoe]

I think that thread is closed too ain't it? And man can't BELIEVE they deleted the first big ass Rogue thread. Lot of info lost there.

If you're backed into the corner, land a power drain, then let go into the screen to ya'll know of any way you can call tron to get some damage before they hit the ground?

[Tanion]

It's still around, you have to go to where it says... show threads since the last 30 days. Put it so it says from the beginning. That way you can see it.

Damn it we need ROC here and LS here! Most often it's usually just me and whiteshadow posting. Come back man! LoL. How do you guys like my avatar? cool eh? Well I don't know how we can make a Rogue strat page like last time so I am thinking of something like this... [each topic is a thread]

Rogue vs Top Tier

Top Rogue Teams

Damaging Rogue combos

Rogue Assist Resets

Rogue Infinites


Well some nasty stuff with Rogue is her assis. It helps out Storm for a lot of nasty unblockable/unrollable shit.

Storm, dashin in lp, lk, call Rogue, Rogue hits, Storm dashes back to the screen... Rogue let's go then you do her kick launcher... then go into your air combo. You can do this with most reliable launchers like Mags, Strider, Morrigan... anything that has good vertical range.

You can reset the damage of Storm's infinite on Sent when you land on your feet... do call lp, lk, call rogue... rogue hits.... dash back... rogue lets go.... launcher with hard kick then do your favorite air combo.

Oh yeah... also... GNS xx LS does more damage than Hailstorm most of the time for some reason.... but it's unreliable because if they block the LS your screwed.

Has anyone tried to connect a GNS xx Hailstorm xx
LA xx LS? I been able to connect a LA but couldn't do the LS... but then again the control at my arcade suck. Oh well what'cha gonna do? x_x

[RollerMog]

Originally posted by Tanion
Has anyone tried to connect a GNS xx Hailstorm xx
LA xx LS? I been able to connect a LA but couldn't do the LS... but then again the control at my arcade suck. Oh well what'cha gonna do? x_x

I've always tried to do the LA XX Lightning Storm after the Hailstorm but it never connected. Quite simple explanation - When you DHC from the GNS into the Hailstorm, Storm does her super and is left in the air in normal jump mode. In normal jump mode, you only get one action, and that action is the Lightning Attack. After that, you have to land to act again. That's the basis behind guardbreaks. So, that's why the Lightning Storm won't work. Better to just dash down+forward and pop 'em back into an air combo.

And remember, when the going gets rough, Rogue that shit up, baby.

[Tanion]

So that's why it doesn't work. Damn. I thought the whole normal jump thing wouldn't be a reason since Storm is well... Storm ^_^;;; silly me. I guess the only way to connect a Hailstorm is just to do a LS right when she is done. But I think that's only possible after you DHC from the GNS since you need the opponent has high as possible because they can roll once they hit the ground so you need to hit them while they are still in the air.

Then from the LS you can do your other super... then another and then another, which is cool since you can waste your entire bar but of course that's not smart unless you have some strong has hell supers.

I'm going to see if I can start a thread now for Top Rogue Teams. My AIM/AOL is dethvirtues if any of you want to im me for strats or whatever. Laters.'

[Neo_Slasher]

i've been a rouge fan since i played the game and got creamed by her rush down so i've been trying to play her but it's tough since i can't seem to do the sj. xx air dash well:( since or either i sj higher than i should or sj , instantly do reapeating punches hp after the sj. and do it at a nice height but can't cross up because the sj.lk is to far because the air dash goes about a 2 character length away so the question..... WHAT THE F#$% I'M DOING WRONG? please help this rouge pro wannabe since i wanna drop cammy for rouge but i'm not gonna do it if i can't master rouge well....:( thanx in advance:D

[Tanion]

To best way to cancel the air dash is to do a tigerknee backwards motion. In other words... do this motion.

down, down-back, back, back-up, up

This will help you not do the repeating punches because this has happened to me a good deal. But if you just sj and just do d.hk it's just as good as the airdash cancel.

Instead of using j.lk use j.fp. Then when you land, dash in and combo the crap out of your opponent. This does more damage and puts your opponent in a longer hit stun but you have to be quick on doing it though.

You can also get more information on Rogue in the Rival Rogue thread. Go to where it says... show posts from the last 30 days and change it to the beginning. Then click on the thing next to it and then the Rogue thread will show up. Lots of good stuff there. Especially combos. I'm going to see if I can list some of them later on. Well laters.'

[Naslectronical]

*From the combo vid I saw on 2Nasty's site*

(corner)

jump in dive kick, s. lk, s. lk, launch, sj. lp, lk, lp, air dash forward, hp, (opponent bounces off floor), Power Drain, land, c. lk, GNS

here's another one I do.....

(corner)
jump in dive kick, s. lk + IM, s. lk, c. hk, (IM hits), sj. air dash forward, dive kick(juggles), Power Drain(throws back into corner), c. lk, GNS

[DrumlinerJoe]

It ain't a reset, but if ever any of ya'll use Cammy with Rogue try try this.

Jumpin fp, call cammy, slp slk slp, xx GNS. Cammy hits right after the slk and the standing lp will knock them back. It doesn't look like the GNS will connect but it does.

[Neo_Slasher]

thanx tanion i'm getting better results now all i gotta do is practice hard and i'll be raping my opponent's teams with her:evil: also how can you evade the power drain besides running away? or is there no other way since my training dummy or best friend:evil: is using her and abusing of that so i wanna stop him with style:cool: thats all for now thanx in advance!

[Guile-Virus-]

to all the hard core rouge lovers like me i need someone to let me or give me advice in how to do the infinite id really appreciate it and by the way my team i use when i use rouge is rouge,storm,guile sick resets and damage:evil: :evil: :bluu: and as my saying here goes just rougatize that shit:evil:

[DrumlinerJoe]

You talking bout the speedup infinity? Cause that's just dlp, dlk over and over again.

[[--yeah--]]

you could always use rogues speed up glitch to reset combos or to cross up the opponent who are blocking assist.

speed up, s.lk, s.lk*

the second s.lk/s.mk will make rogue teleport to the other side of the opponent.

[Tanion]

I was just fooling around with Rogue/Sent the other day and noticed that an opponent can't roll away if your DHC Rogue's Good Night Sugah into Sent's HSF [DHC right when she is kissing]. It goes from going upwards in a dizzy like fashion and then falling straight down. I didn't time Sent's launcher correctly and he OTG'ed the launcher. My computer had safe falls on so don't be like... ``uhhh duh! safe falls off!``. This happens with alot of other people too like if you DHC....

Sonson's eating super
Amingo's uhhh... dancing super?
Captain America's Final Justice [do it when he does the slam]
Morrigan's Darkness Illusion [do it when she is comboing in the air]

There might be other but I don't know, havn't tried them all yet. But it's interesting I guess but do you think you can mash out and just immediately stand-up to avoid the OTG? Kinda like mashing to get out of Shuma's Chaos Dimenson and Hulk's Gamma Meteor... thing. If not then this could be awesome for Magneto and Sent because you can do Mag's Shockwave/Sent's HSF... whiff it then combo! I found this nice 100% combo that kills Cable and Doom [you need a power-up to kill Doom] but it involves 3 meters... x_x here goes.

Rogue: call sent, jumpin with j.hp, s.lk, s.mk, s.hk, Drones hit, GNS, wait till she is kissing the opponent, Sent HSF [whiff], OTG with s.hk, rocket punch, Plasma Storm.

Yeah i know it invovles three meters but whatever! But if you don't want to just time your launcher right and do your air-combo, it does like 130 [normal] 135 [power up] points of damage on level 2. I was going to post this unrollable DHC question in the general discussion of MvC2 but I'll probaly get flamed for using low tier =P

[zachdms]

Huh. Cool - I'll look into that. I DHC into Silver Samurai's Raimeken, and the timing on that from GNS has always been tricky.

Another neat 'trick' is to DHC into Time Flip. If you cancel out of GNS on I believe just after the 9th hit, your opponent is frozen in place and just hovers there until the Time Flip hits. It looks mad cool. The timing is pretty tricky, but it's a good show-off move.

[ROC]

Thanks DLJ and Tanion for starting back up the Rogue threads.

zachdms
Another neat 'trick' is to DHC into Time Flip. If you cancel out of GNS on I believe just after the 9th hit, your opponent is frozen in place and just hovers there until the Time Flip hits. It looks mad cool. The timing is pretty tricky, but it's a good show-off move.

Ya I got some developed some pretty nice Timeflip combos becaue of this.

I also got some gliched Rogue resets that I was messing around with before I stoped playing Marvel.

Ill post every thing later along with my Rogue teams in the other thread.

[vegita-x]

Is anyone going to ECC8? I hate to be the only Rogue Player there.





Rogue4life

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by vegita-x
Is anyone going to ECC8? I hate to be the only Rogue Player there.





Rogue4life

Nah going to showdown took up enough of my time as it is. Plus going into finals and need to work harder to make more money before the summer. Maybe Cali this summer though.

[ROC]

Originally posted by vegita-x
Is anyone going to ECC8? I hate to be the only Rogue Player there.

Rogue4life

There is somethin about traveling just to play games thats kinda...

But if I get a ride from people that are going I most definitly come. That Team tournament with all rogue players on a team sounds tuff.

[Edma]

More then likely I'm going.

[Onyx_Chameleon]

I've been a Rogue fan for quite awhile, (well since the game first came out) i used pick her and T. Bon all the time and have people all like what the hell happened to my life. This is evenbefore I even became serious with fighting games...seems as if the two gurly's were ment to be:) Only resently though have I became really interested in this scary chicks air dash mixup game
Looking at the computer play her in her no nonsense mode on level 5 and up is nothing but aw inspiring (she actualy could still kill me if I'd let my guard down and not stay the hell away from her):eek:

Now this might shock some but I have never seen any one outside of the computer play her really well like this, I guess cause all the people in my area are Doom Cable Juggernaut Strider... Freaks. I really would like some good input on how to finally play her the way she was ment to played so I could shake the crowd over here in St. Loui. Right now i basiclay drop kick there a**'s till the decide to try and stop me (that is a hurtful kick):lol: Please give me some better tactics... Most importantly how on earth do you do her airdash cancel effectively!!!

[Tanion]

I found something really cool [well I hope I did... and it's not in some fawking combo video] with Tron. Please don't flame me if it's been heard/seen. Thanks.

Tron with opponent in corner: dash in, c.lp, c.hp, sj.lp, sj.lk [let it hit for a bit], sj.mp, hold foward+hp for the throw, land, c.hp, sj.lp, sj.lk [let it hit for a bit], sj.mp, hold forward for the throw, OTG c.hp XX Lunch Rush.

This was done on cable on level 2 damage. This also kills off Doom. It does good damage against Sentinel too. I'm trying to see if I can throw Rogue in their somehow... not sure if she could help since Tron's throw is reseting the damage. I think it would be wise to just do it once. So do the combo once then...

Tron: [OTG] c.lp, c.mp, Call Rogue, Rogue hits, dash behind Rogue, Stun Laser XX Lunch Rush or Aircombo if you don't have/want to waste a super. OR You can Tag in [I think you can tag in safely after the Stun Laser. Gotta check on that later]

Rogue4Life

[vegita-x]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tanion
[B]I found something really cool [well I hope I did... and it's not in some fawking combo video] with Tron. Please don't flame me if it's been heard/seen. Thanks.

Tron with opponent in corner: dash in, c.lp, c.hp, sj.lp, sj.lk [let it hit for a bit], sj.mp, hold foward+hp for the throw, land, c.hp, sj.lp, sj.lk [let it hit for a bit], sj.mp, hold forward for the throw, OTG c.hp XX Lunch Rush.

This was done on cable on level 2 damage. This also kills off Doom. It does good damage against Sentinel too. I'm trying to see if I can throw Rogue in their somehow... not sure if she could help since Tron's throw is reseting the damage. I think it would be wise to just do it once. So do the combo once then...

Tron: [OTG] c.lp, c.mp, Call Rogue, Rogue hits, dash behind Rogue, Stun Laser XX Lunch Rush or Aircombo if you don't have/want to waste a super. OR You Tag in [I think you can tag in safely after the Stun Laser. Gotta check on that later]



nice but I already done that combo but still nice. say due to money sitution I won't be attending ecc8 but I will be going to mid-west because I really want to see team seattle play and not Jwong those guys r hella good, I just hope my rogue can stand up aganist them. If anyone planning on going just let me know.



Rogue4life]

[Tanion]

Originally posted by vegita-x

nice but I already done that combo but still nice. say due to money sitution I won't be attending ecc8 but I will be going to mid-west because I really want to see team seattle play and not Jwong those guys r hella good, I just hope my rogue can stand up aganist them. If anyone planning on going just let me know.



Rogue4life] [/B]

Figures that people found out about it! X_x This game is so broken lol.

[Bootknocka]

hopefully my rogue can get to the semi's
if not more practice.

[Onyx_Chameleon]

This combo involves Rogue's anti air assist, and to add some mo' craziness to the combo you can add Sentinel Drones, Sabbertooth Expansion, Omega Red throw assist, or just about any of the other characters to the combo with specific assist's. I basicaly almost know few if anyone else has discovered what I have with the infamous Tron/Rogue teem. With Tron/Rogue/Sabbertooth I have a crazy, craaazzzyyyy looking semi ifinite that can be done anywhere on the screen (not just in the corner like the one most have posted) that involves Trons funny a** qcf p. projectile, Rogue's anti. air assist and Sabber's expansion assist...and the best thing is that it is actually practical.
With Omega Reds throw assist I can connect an extensive ground combo with Tron, go into an air combo with the help of Rogue, and end the air combo with Omega's through assist. Sounds impossible, or like a load of shizzznick? Nope, it is completly possible.:)

I really want to let you'll in on these combo's, but damn, I want to keep them as my secret recipe. When I pull these combo's off at the arcade (whether they are scrubs, newbies, are serious comp.) people start noddin' their heads in amazmint' or approval.

Maybe if you really want to try this combo I'll tell in the near future, before Marvel 3 comes out or that Capcom Allstar game releases. But for know let me give a hint to those still reading this
lenthy message of mind :D Tron can call on out an assist and still connect an drill rush special after her throw with out the opponet being able to roll.:evil: ;)

P.S. when is sombody going to reply to my above post, or is it just scrubs still reading this thread.:mad:

Till' lata {PEACE OUT}:)

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by Onyx_Chameleon
This combo involves Rogue's anti air assist, and to add some mo' craziness to the combo you can add Sentinel Drones, Sabbertooth Expansion, Omega Red throw assist, or just about any of the other characters to the combo with specific assist's. I basicaly almost know few if anyone else has discovered what I have with the infamous Tron/Rogue teem. With Tron/Rogue/Sabbertooth I have a crazy, craaazzzyyyy looking semi ifinite that can be done anywhere on the screen (not just in the corner like the one most have posted) that involves Trons funny a** qcf p. projectile, Rogue's anti. air assist and Sabber's expansion assist...and the best thing is that it is actually practical.
With Omega Reds throw assist I can connect an extensive ground combo with Tron, go into an air combo with the help of Rogue, and end the air combo with Omega's through assist. Sounds impossible, or like a load of shizzznick? Nope, it is completly possible.:)

I really want to let you'll in on these combo's, but damn, I want to keep them as my secret recipe. When I pull these combo's off at the arcade (whether they are scrubs, newbies, are serious comp.) people start noddin' their heads in amazmint' or approval.

Maybe if you really want to try this combo I'll tell in the near future, before Marvel 3 comes out or that Capcom Allstar game releases. But for know let me give a hint to those still reading this
lenthy message of mind :D Tron can call on out an assist and still connect an drill rush special after her throw with out the opponet being able to roll.:evil: ;)

P.S. when is sombody going to reply to my above post, or is it just scrubs still reading this thread.:mad:

Till' lata {PEACE OUT}:)




Nice but I'm pretty sure most people knew that because I did. but its good u r practing with tron because she really is a good character if u know how to play with her. O yeah Sorry if no one responed to your early post but me personly can show better then I can explain.
The only advice I can give u is that rush that shit down but first what I do is for the first 8 to 10 seconds I tried to see how does my challenge play and what does he like to do and how do he react to certain situtions. Sometime Its not always good to keep rushing in like that without knowing what your up aganist. Try to just keep mixing it up and play smart espically when playing mag,STROM,sent, and cable. Only a skill rogue player can defeat these characters. Really there should be only 2 character that give rogue so much trouble and thats Storm and sentinel but as for mag and cable u shouldn't have no problem. Well got to go hope to see you all soon at mid-west.




Rogue4life

[Onyx_Chameleon]

Originally posted by vegita-x





Nice but I'm pretty sure most people knew that because I did. but its good u r practing with tron because she really is a good character if u know how to play with her. O yeah Sorry if no one responed to your early post but me personly can show better then I can explain.
The only advice I can give u is that rush that shit down but first what I do is for the first 8 to 10 seconds I tried to see how does my challenge play and what does he like to do and how do he react to certain situtions. Sometime Its not always good to keep rushing in like that without knowing what your up aganist. Try to just keep mixing it up and play smart espically when playing mag,STROM,sent, and cable. Only a skill rogue player can defeat these characters. Really there should be only 2 character that give rogue so much trouble and thats Storm and sentinel but as for mag and cable u shouldn't have no problem. Well got to go hope to see you all soon at mid-west.




Rogue4life



You Mean It Has Already Been Done???!!!:(


Oh well, I guess it is hard to do something oringinal in a game that has been played all over the world for about four years now...damn :mad: but big ups to vegita_x (ya' a DBZ fan too I see) for the info though.:cool:

To be sure though here's description of a couple of the combo's I am so hyped on ;) let me know if they truly have been done :)

Tron/Rogue/Sabertooth
Double jab wit' tron then call out rogue's anti-air assist, than time tron qcf lp. move to capture opponet in mid-air. Launch opponet in the air than do a four hit air rave into an air throw. While tron is falling to the ground from the throw call out Saber's exspansion assist, (you know the one were he travals across the screen and juggles the victim) quickly do trons qcf lp. move again to catch opponet befor they can roll. You can do this combo until your heart is content, or your opponet more likely wises up and thech trow...I think you can swith up the air rave and throw to make this a little harder for them though.

The other combo (not a semi ifinite but nice though) wit' Tron/Omega/Rogue goes like a thisa'...

Start out like combo above but, after the air throw call out omega's throw assist than do a Fk. drill rush...tron drills tha' dope, than omega grabs em and tosses him high into the sky. Nice way to end a combo :lol: Good damage too be so damn flashy.
It is nice to fit all three characters into one combo without the Hyper bar being depleted.

With Rogue what is your meths' of canceling a combo into an air dash, I see the computer do it all the time...but I cant :( .
And is it true that you can only cancel a move into and air dash
only if it actualy connects, this seems to be the case with me. If it is true man that's lame :lame:

Holla back somebody.........please? :lol:

[ROC]

Apparently Rogue can do c.RH xx sj. D + RH and it connects! I cant believe I didnt try this before. I'll try to expand on it to make some practicle combos out of it.

PS: You dont need speed up for this.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Hey ya'll, I found out this cool combo, try it out and see if ya'll like it.

standing lp lp lk hk launch, sj lp lp hp, after the fp slams them down land behind them and do a power drain on the ground. After the power drain dash fp xx into GNS. Does great damage, just don't do it too often cause they'll catch on to that power drain after you do it a few times. See if ya'll like it.

[ROC]

Originally posted by DrumlinerJoe
Hey ya'll, I found out this cool combo, try it out and see if ya'll like it.

standing lp lp lk hk launch, sj lp lp hp, after the fp slams them down land behind them and do a power drain on the ground. After the power drain dash fp xx into GNS. Does great damage, just don't do it too often cause they'll catch on to that power drain after you do it a few times. See if ya'll like it.

Ya I like to mix it up with launch sj lp lp d+RH(wifted) land power drain, dash FP GNS. So they dont get used to any one reset.

But Rogue best resets are her teleport ones.

Also ending Rogues c.FP launched AC's with d+RH(it connects) is really good because both you and the opponent land at the same time setting up for some good crossup/resets.

Do any of you guys use MSN?

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by ROC


Ya I like to mix it up with launch sj lp lp d+RH(wifted) land power drain, dash FP GNS. So they dont get used to any one reset.

But Rogue best resets are her teleport ones.

Also ending Rogues c.FP launched AC's with d+RH(it connects) is really good because both you and the opponent land at the same time setting up for some good crossup/resets.

Do any of you guys use MSN?

Good tip with the Dhk thing man.

And yeah, joeyjo19@hotmail.com. Just add me to the list or whatever. Laters.

[ROC]

Rogue teleport glich: (get speed-up)

c.LP, c.MP, *s.LK
*as soon as you press light kick you teleport.

This glich is really usefull for reseting speed up infinites or just reseting GNS after a infinite.

You can do it without speed up sometimes if you dash xx c.LP, c.MP, s.LK. But you have to do it really fast but still practile if you master it and use it every now and then.

Gliched Speed Up Combos:

(c.LP, c.LK, c.MP) x 3, c.LP, c.MP, *s.LK xx [(c.LP, c.LK, c.MP)] x 2 xx GNS

(c.LP, c.LK, c.MP) x 3, c.LP, c.MP, *s.LK xx [(c.LP, c.LK, c.MP)] x 2 xx Power Drain, dash in s.FP xx GNS

[when you do the s.LK you teleport and the s.LK comes out on the otherside of the person and does not connect so you have to do a move quick before the can block]

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by ROC
Rogue teleport glich: (get speed-up)

c.LP, c.MP, *s.LK
*as soon as you press light kick you teleport.

This glich is really usefull for reseting speed up infinites or just reseting GNS after a infinite.

You can do it without speed up sometimes if you dash xx c.LP, c.MP, s.LK. But you have to do it really fast but still practile if you master it and use it every now and then.

Gliched Speed Up Combos:

(c.LP, c.LK, c.MP) x 3, c.LP, c.MP, *s.LK xx [(c.LP, c.LK, c.MP)] x 2 xx GNS

(c.LP, c.LK, c.MP) x 3, c.LP, c.MP, *s.LK xx [(c.LP, c.LK, c.MP)] x 2 xx Power Drain, dash in s.FP xx GNS

[when you do the s.LK you teleport and the s.LK comes out on the otherside of the person and does not connect so you have to do a move quick before the can block]





Yeah that's the correct way to do the teleport but there are only certain characters you can do it without speed up. It all depends on the size of the character. For Ex: all of the femals on the game, iron man, war machine , cyc, capcom, and a few other I don't feel like typing. Works on storm real well and a good way to get speed up also.




Rogue4life

[ROC]

I didnt know what characters It could be done on but I swear when I did it, it was on Sent. It was along time ago so I could be thinking Sent but it was probly warmachine.

[Glen1Rice]

>>After the power drain dash fp xx into GNS

I'm having trouble getting this to work. Does anybody have a video of it?

[DrumlinerJoe]

For the Dash fp xx GNS thing, try doing a step or 2 before dashing. It doesn't work on big guys like Sent or BH or Jugg or on small people. If you got speed up do like 2 or three steps. The timing takes some time to get used to, but just practice.

[vegita-x]

Anyone going yo EVO2k3?




Rogue4life

[Goofy]

I wanna see Rogue vs Storms, Sents and Cables at Evo hahaha, she won't do shit!

Please, she sucks.

[magneto_x]

Originally posted by Goofy
I wanna see Rogue vs Storms, Sents and Cables at Evo hahaha, she won't do shit!

Please, she sucks.





STFU how about u play me at evo2k3 and see how she sucks.


THIS IS VEGITA-X (PATRICK) FROM NEW ORLEANS

[ROC]

Originally posted by magneto_x






STFU how about u play me at evo2k3 and see how she sucks.


THIS IS VEGITA-X (PATRICK) FROM NEW ORLEANS

Word.

[Crono_Mashitoka]

Originally posted by magneto_x






STFU how about u play me at evo2k3 and see how she sucks.


THIS IS VEGITA-X (PATRICK) FROM NEW ORLEANS

Yeah, I second that one. If you think Rogue sucks against Cable, Storm, Magneto, etc. then you haven't seen a good Rogue player. I've seen Pat's Rogue at DBS at a tournament there and it was a force to be reckoned with.

His Rogue inspired me to play her more often than before. It gets crazier than when the computer tries to rush you down when it gets to like a quarter life. Trust me on this one. There are probably more great Rogue users out there that can hang but Vegita's is just sick.

[LightningStorm]

Wow, I'm lame. I just now got to this thread. :o

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by Crono_Mashitoka


Yeah, I second that one. If you think Rogue sucks against Cable, Storm, Magneto, etc. then you haven't seen a good Rogue player. I've seen Pat's Rogue at DBS at a tournament there and it was a force to be reckoned with.

His Rogue inspired me to play her more often than before. It gets crazier than when the computer tries to rush you down when it gets to like a quarter life. Trust me on this one. There are probably more great Rogue users out there that can hang but Vegita's is just sick.



Hey thanks but hopefully I can challenge up to all the people at EVO2k3 this year. last year they played me because my first 2 matches I won and then when I went to get something to eat they had put one lost against me. After I had won 4 matches before I lost :( But anyway thanks say r u going to EVO2k3 if u r me and my boy have some space avaiable. You will have to sleep on the floor and it will be probably between 40 to 50 dollars for Three nights.





Rogue4life

[Crono_Mashitoka]

Hey what's up? Yeah, I'm gonna' try and get a ride from Craig (MAXIMUS) to go there and if it's cool with you and ya' boy, I'll take that open space available. I hope you do great this year if you play. I may just watch this time around since I didn't go last year. I still need some more training to actually enter and play. lol

[Crono_Mashitoka]

Hey what's up? Yeah, I'm gonna' try and get a ride from Craig (MAXIMUS) to go there and if it's cool with you and ya' boy, I'll take that open space available. I hope you do great this year if you play. I may just watch this time around since I didn't go last year. I still need some more training to actually enter and play. lol

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by Crono_Mashitoka
Hey what's up? Yeah, I'm gonna' try and get a ride from Craig (MAXIMUS) to go there and if it's cool with you and ya' boy, I'll take that open space available. I hope you do great this year if you play. I may just watch this time around since I didn't go last year. I still need some more training to actually enter and play. lol







Say what day and time are u getting there? There are at least 2 people that I know who are trying to stay also mixup,mike(inifinite) and another guy from Cali so if u are going Pm me your cell phone # so when we arrived there I can call u. Remenber it might be kinda pack up in there but if u really need a place to stay let me know before wednesday. And say its me, chris(magneto_x) and Duane who are in charge of the room.
Halla at u later.






Rogue4life

[ROC]

Good Luck Veg- X hold it down for all the Rogue Players

Some resets/tips for you to use:

if you ever air throw or end a combo with FP, before you land airdash xx D+RH to cross them up/overhead them.

Dont abuse Power Drain tooo much or they will catch on and push block everything you do.

Call Storm then super jump airdash to get in safely: Storm stuffs AAA's for you.

Once your in pin with tron.

If you have sent in the corner do: j.lp, j.mp, j.d+rh repeat wile calling tron to pin/chip/build meter.(he can do anything)

dont waste levels with storm, do random hail when your winning to fustrate them.

with storm: launch pause call rogue throw, dash under c.LK is a great and abuseable reset with storm and rogue throw assist.

with storm: on both assist and character: c.lk, c.mk xx snapback, dash in c.lk, s.RH(magneto style assist killing)

SNAP BACK ALOT!

and if you have trouble use Rogue Storm Cyclops!

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by ROC
Good Luck Veg- X hold it down for all the Rogue Players

Some resets/tips for you to use:

if you ever air throw or end a combo with FP, before you land airdash xx D+RH to cross them up/overhead them.

Dont abuse Power Drain tooo much or they will catch on and push block everything you do.

Call Storm then super jump airdash to get in safely: Storm stuffs AAA's for you.

Once your in pin with tron.

If you have sent in the corner do: j.lp, j.mp, j.d+rh repeat wile calling tron to pin/chip/build meter.(he can do anything)

dont waste levels with storm, do random hail when your winning to fustrate them.

with storm: launch pause call rogue throw, dash under c.LK is a great and abuseable reset with storm and rogue throw assist.

with storm: on both assist and character: c.lk, c.mk xx snapback, dash in c.lk, s.RH(magneto style assist killing)

SNAP BACK ALOT!

and if you have trouble use Rogue Storm Cyclops!







Hey thanks for the tips and hopefully I will make it to Saturday.
We should arrived there tonight around 9:00.
again thanks and holla at u later.





Rogue4life

[ROC]

I wonder how all the rogue players(vdo/vegita-x) are doing at EVO?

Good to see LightningStorm found the thread I hope he shares his wisdom like he used to.

DLJ did you ever make it to EVO?

FP Throw Resets/Mind Games:

If you land a throw with rogue land and throw again, and again, then call assist dash over d+RH to cross up for the combo. The assists that work best for this crossup are probly Tron, Cyclops, Psylocke since they come out fast and dont mess up the combo like Doom. However Doom is usuable too i guess.

Rogue's throw is like Ryu's in that it nocks the guy down right beside you setting up for another grab as they wake up. The set up is so good I've thrown people out of supers like tempest/hsf and assist calls like Doom AAA/CapCom AAA.

I'd recommend doing this after every throw so you can really mess with peoples heads by not throwing and just going for the cross up wile they are trying to LP you thinking your gonna grab again.

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by ROC
I wonder how all the rogue players(vdo/vegita-x) are doing at EVO?

Good to see LightningStorm found the thread I hope he shares his wisdom like he used to.

DLJ did you ever make it to EVO?

FP Throw Resets/Mind Games:

If you land a throw with rogue land and throw again, and again, then call assist dash over d+RH to cross up for the combo. The assists that work best for this crossup are probly Tron, Cyclops, Psylocke since they come out fast and dont mess up the combo like Doom. However Doom is usuable too i guess.

Rogue's throw is like Ryu's in that it nocks the guy down right beside you setting up for another grab as they wake up. The set up is so good I've thrown people out of supers like tempest/hsf and assist calls like Doom AAA/CapCom AAA.

I'd recommend doing this after every throw so you can really mess with peoples heads by not throwing and just going for the cross up wile they are trying to LP you thinking your gonna grab again.








Say was up ROC and everyone I had a great time at EVO2k3 wish you guys could have been there. I got the chance to meet VDO and Edma for the first time they are both hella cool. VDO almost won his pool but feel short and lost against Vinnyman from Texas.
I think I had a really hard pool I had Ricky Ortiz, Xecutioner and Shady k little brother. I won my first match against ricky and lost the next 2. After he lost the first won he ran the next two. Then I lost to Xecutioner it came down to my tron 5% life and his Cyc with 5% that how it happen both matches. I wish I knew who recorded the matches so they could put it up. Anyway just wanted to give everyone the info.




Rogue4life

[ROC]

Originally posted by vegita-x
Say was up ROC and everyone I had a great time at EVO2k3 wish you guys could have been there. I got the chance to meet VDO and Edma for the first time they are both hella cool. VDO almost won his pool but feel short and lost against Vinnyman from Texas.
I think I had a really hard pool I had Ricky Ortiz, Xecutioner and Shady k little brother. I won my first match against ricky and lost the next 2. After he lost the first won he ran the next two. Then I lost to Xecutioner it came down to my tron 5% life and his Cyc with 5% that how it happen both matches. I wish I knew who recorded the matches so they could put it up. Anyway just wanted to give everyone the info.

Rogue4life

Ya I wanna see how other rogue players play for sure. It sounds like evo was hype and atleast the people you faced where top players, its good to see how you stack up against them.

Any ways this vid I found shows how to set up Rogue's corner infinite but the player only does 2 reps.(hard enuff)

http://www.comboadictos.com/videos/Mei.wmv

And I was playing around the FP throw and found out that after she throws and is still in the air she is in normal jump mode, which means she can call assists wile still in the air. So after the FP you can airdash + call assit to cross up. The assit that gets the most out of this is probly Tron and the AAA's.

[LightningStorm]

Originally posted by vegita-x
Then I lost to Xecutioner it came down to my tron 5% life and his Cyc with 5% that how it happen both matches. I wish I knew who recorded the matches so they could put it up. Anyway just wanted to give everyone the info.

Yeah, I saw that match you had. That was hella tight shit! Way to represent the Rogue at Evo! :D

[Tanion]

Holy shit are you serious Roc!? Rogue will be in normal jump mode after the FP throw?! That's crazy! That shit is going to have so many setups!

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by LightningStorm


Yeah, I saw that match you had. That was hella tight shit! Way to represent the Rogue at Evo! :D





Thanks man I should have beaten him but I guess I have to wait until next time. At least I had 35 wins down in the acarde that day. I try to beat mixup with his 45 wins the previous day but it started to get so fucking hot. Rogue can handle so many sentinel and storms in one day. Say did u record the matches between me and Xecutioner?

[Edma]

Originally posted by ROC
I wonder how all the rogue players(vdo/vegita-x) are doing at EVO?

Good to see LightningStorm found the thread I hope he shares his wisdom like he used to.

DLJ did you ever make it to EVO?

FP Throw Resets/Mind Games:

If you land a throw with rogue land and throw again, and again, then call assist dash over d+RH to cross up for the combo. The assists that work best for this crossup are probly Tron, Cyclops, Psylocke since they come out fast and dont mess up the combo like Doom. However Doom is usuable too i guess.

Rogue's throw is like Ryu's in that it nocks the guy down right beside you setting up for another grab as they wake up. The set up is so good I've thrown people out of supers like tempest/hsf and assist calls like Doom AAA/CapCom AAA.

I'd recommend doing this after every throw so you can really mess with peoples heads by not throwing and just going for the cross up wile they are trying to LP you thinking your gonna grab again.

That doesn't really work since people will just roll or tech hit when the hit the ground after the throw. Actually, I hate Rogue's throw cause then you have to go chasing after them again. It's like a get out of the corner for free card.

Although that crossover thing on the way down works after an aircombo with sj. FP. I saw vegita-x do it last year and again this year. Seems to work good on big ass chars like Sentinel but you have to watch out for anti-air assists I would think.

Way to rep Rogue Vegita-x and VDO. Heard you guys made it really far with her on your team. :D

[ROC]

Originally posted by Edma


That doesn't really work since people will just roll or tech hit when the hit the ground after the throw. Actually, I hate Rogue's throw cause then you have to go chasing after them again. It's like a get out of the corner for free card.

Although that crossover thing on the way down works after an aircombo with sj. FP. I saw vegita-x do it last year and again this year. Seems to work good on big ass chars like Sentinel but you have to watch out for anti-air assists I would think.

Way to rep Rogue Vegita-x and VDO. Heard you guys made it really far with her on your team. :D

Ya the throw is very easy to tech but people hardly roll after it tho.

And I herd there was a another team tournament before the 5 on 5 did you guys rep an all Rogue team?

LS please tell me you taped Vegita'a match! By the way what teams where you guys using and teams of people you where facing?

[LightningStorm]

Originally posted by vegita-x
Say did u record the matches between me and Xecutioner?

No. I didn't have a camera. :( I wish, hell I'd have had a lot of good shit on tape.

[Tanion]

I found this bad ass reset using Sent's Projectile and Storm's Projectile. The only weird thing is that it doesn't work too well on Sentinel, it work's decently on Storm and Cable, and it just fucking kills Magneto. Well here are the Storm, Cable, Sentinel versions of the reset.

Opponent in corner... [Storm, Cable, Sentinel]

Dash in, s(c).lk, s.mk, [Call assist], s.rk, sj.lk, sj.mk, power drain, land, OTG c.lk, c.fp into magic series to power drain or FP throw or GNS.

Damage... About 137 in level 2.

Opponent in corner... [Magneto]

Dash in, s(c).lk, s.mk, [Call assist], s.rk, sj.lk, sj.mk, power drain, land, OTG c.lk, s.rk, sj.lk, (can still work if blocked), power drain, land, OTG c.lk, c.fp into magic series [can't throw no more] or GNS.

Damage About 143 in level 2.

I am trying to use some other assists too. You can ghetto rig it to make it work with Doom's rocks but Doom has to be at a certain distance and launched at a certain time in order for Rogue to get behind the enemy. You can also get it to work with Captain Commando's Anti-Air too the timing is just a bit harder and the enemy might be popped up too high. Anyways I'm trying to see if there is a way to extend her combos by forcing the opponent to block and throw in another power drain.

Oh and if you have trouble doing the second power drain in the Magneto combo then do QCF+K. For some reason it doesn't work with QCB+K even though Rogue's back is against the corner. Don't ask why... Rogue is funny that way! ^_^;;; Enjoy the combo!

[DirtyM]

Sup everybody!! Looks like I'm the newest member to this thread now. I just started using Rogue after seeing what ROC's Rogue can do to people(especially myself). So I decided to check out this thread and see what i can learn. So far my main solid Rogue Team is hands down Rogue/Cammy/T.Bonne. Honestly I'm still a scrub with this team but beleive this team is no pushover.

I'll be sure to check out this thread and ask questions more often. But I just thought I'd introduce myself in the meantime thankx, peace!

Hmm I can't seem to get that Rogue Telport reset without the speed up. I tried it on Juggy, Cable, Storm and somebody else of a different size but no luck. How fast must a do this? :bluu:

[JummPeee]

whos goin to mwc to rep rogue?

me me me

[white shadow]

Originally posted by JummPeee
whos goin to mwc to rep rogue?

me me me

Live my dream. :(

[DrumlinerJoe]

Hey ya'll, try this one out for size and see if ya'll can make use of it.

Launch with cfp, sj lp lk lp, slight pause, sj lk lp lk, dhk...

Now what this does is hit them 6 times in the air, and the dhk doesn't actually hit, but lands you on the ground on the other side of the oppnent really quickly. It's easier to do on bigger people like Doom, and I haven't tried it out on Sent yet. Nor have I tried it out in the arcades. See what ya'll can do with it.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by DrumlinerJoe
Hey ya'll, try this one out for size and see if ya'll can make use of it.

Launch with cfp, sj lp lk lp, slight pause, sj lk lp lk, dhk...

Now what this does is hit them 6 times in the air, and the dhk doesn't actually hit, but lands you on the ground on the other side of the oppnent really quickly. It's easier to do on bigger people like Doom, and I haven't tried it out on Sent yet. Nor have I tried it out in the arcades. See what ya'll can do with it.

Yeah I've done something like that before, I also like doing the majic series ending in J.FP; then pause and do D.J.RK and cancel into Power Drain at normal jump height because the opponent's first instinct is always to jump and it works 95% of the time.:D :cool:

[SFS]

Ive started using Rogue/Gambit/Cyclops lately and came up with an easy but damn damaging combo off two levels of meter (and it looks pretty damn sweet)

Rogue: lp,(GambitProjAssist)lp,lk,(AssistHits),GNS, RoyalFlush

anyone have any good combo's or strategies with this team, if so post them up :D

[DrumlinerJoe]

Hey ya'll, came up with a couple of resets if ya'll wanna check them out. They're solo Rogue so you can mix them up with Sent/Storm/Tron or whoever's proj. assists.

The first one is clp cmp cfp once you launch them do an air dash to the other side and use a sjhk. If you do it right they'll be standing and you'll be on the opposite side so the sjhk hit's them high and you can land and start another ground combo.

Next one is slk smk shk, then sjlp sjlk sjmk, let yourself fall to the other side and do a sjfp so that it doesn't combo. This will make them bounce up towards you, but what you wanna do instead of throw or anything is land and dash under them so you can start another ground combo on the other side once they hit the ground.

A variation on the above combo would be to do a power drain after the sjfp makes them bounce. By itself it doesn't do impressive damage, but if you're kind of near the corner and you end up with your back to it on the power drain, you can land, clk xx into GNS and it's unrollable. Can't really take credit for that though, I saw it on the Rogue tricks of the trade vid. Just here as a reminder.

Last one that's not as cool as the others IMO, but might as well put it out there. slk slk shk, when you launch air dash forward and on the other side of them sjlk sjmk, land and dash under them to the other side before they land and start a new ground combo. Try these out and see what ya'll think.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Ive started using Rogue/Gambit/Cyclops lately and came up with an easy but damn damaging combo off two levels of meter (and it looks pretty damn sweet)

Rogue: lp,(GambitProjAssist)lp,lk,(AssistHits),GNS, RoyalFlush

anyone have any good combo's or strategies with this team, if so post them up :D

With Rogue/Gambit on proj. assist you can jump in, slp slk slp shk, now what you wanna do is call gambit once you start with the slp so that way when the assist right after the shk. SJ right after the launch and air dash forward and do sjlk sjmk. You'll land on the other side on the ground and can start another ground combo.

With Rogue/Cyke do a regular ground chain into launcher, call Cyke right after the launcher and do a sjfp. You'll slam them right into Cyke's AAA, then do sjlk sjmk and land behind them and do another ground combo.

All late replying I know. Hope those help you out anyway.

[white shadow]

Rogue + Sent(proj.) is the future.:cool:

[DrumlinerJoe]

Hey White, I think this might be a legit reset combo with Sent proj. Launch and call assist, then sj hk, then dash. It should mix them up on the bottom of the screen. I wanted to test it but my 2p controller doesn't work, but it looks like it'll hit them from the back. See if it works.

I think it might work with Storm's proj too. I'll try it at the arcade in a few days.

[white shadow]

:pleased: Thanks, I've been doing some stuff with Rogue/Sent(proj.) that I'll explain in detail in my next post.

[white shadow]

Here's a combo I commonly use that's better than her reg AC.

J.FP, S.LK, *call Sent proj.* S.MK, *jump* *RP hit* J.LK, J.MP, J.HP xx Power Drain. (If done away from the corner *but near it* she can possibly juggle with C.HK xx GNS, especially with Speed Up.)

Also:

J.FP, S.LP, S.LK, *Call Sent proj.* S.MK, S.FP and then QUICKLY cancel into GNS.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Duh, you were talking about proj and not ground. I think I might have posted the reset combo I learned with him and that assist already, but I'll do it again in case not.

slk smk, call sent proj when you start the ground combo and he'll hit after the smk. Do a jump, air dash, jlk jmk, land on the other side of them then start another combo. See if you dig.

[white shadow]

Duh, you were talking about proj and not ground. I think I might have posted the reset combo I learned with him and that assist already, but I'll do it again in case not.

slk smk, call sent proj when you start the ground combo and he'll hit after the smk. Do a jump, air dash, jlk jmk, land on the other side of them then start another combo. See if you dig.


That cool, it works on most characters 'cept Sent. :pleased:

[white shadow]

Well I found something about Rogue's FP throw than make her mixup game really interesting. After doing it you can call an assist in midair even though the throw send you up a little past normal jump height. It makes it perfect for Sent's proj., Cyke's AA, or Psy's AA to setup something.

Second is this theory Speed Up combo I created while daydreaming about Storm getting owned.:looney:

With Rogue/Sent/Capcom: Speed up inf till near corner and then call Sent G, as soon as it's about to hit quickly do S.MK which causes the teleport glitch *now facing the corner* into S.LK, S.MK, Power Drain (throws into corner) *Reset!!!* normal jump J.LK, J.MP, (call Sent G) J.HP xx Power Drain, (throws into drones), C.FP, majic series into Power Drain (throw back into corner) into C.HK (Call Capcom AA) xx GNS. If this works it will be my crowning achievement.:cool:

Can someone check if it's possible, thx.:smile: