Top Rogue Teams

[Tanion]

Rogue is a solid 2nd tier character [IMO] but even though she is a pretty decent character on her own, having some useful team players and assists. Please bear with me since I havn't tried out all of these teams lately and there will be a lot of editing throughout this thread. Well here goes.

Things Rogue Needs

+ Rogue is a rushdown character and she no projectile of her own this time around. So she needs something that will cover her while she is rushing her opponent down.

+ Rogue doesn't have a very reliable anti-air. Her c. HP and her s. HK are ``decent`` AAs but they can get snuffed by most of the top-tiers high-priority normals. Her AA special also doesn't have much priority and comes out slow. So a good AAA is helpful.

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I'm going to mostly use top-tier and top-tier assists here. So first I'll start branching off like... Rogue/Storm/???, Rogue/Sent/???, Rogue/Mag/???, Rogue/Cable/???. . . and things of that nature. I know there are some solid Rogue teams that don't use top tier but I don't quite remember them that well. Also there will be a seperate catergory for Rogue teams that have more than one top-tier character.



Rogue/Storm series

1) Rogue[Throw]/Storm[Projectile]/Cyclops[AAA]
2) Rogue[Throw]/Storm[Projectile]/Psylocke[AAA]
3) Rogue[Throw]/Storm[Projectile]/Capcom[AAA]
4) Rogue[Throw]/Storm[Projectile]/Doom [AAA]
5) Rogue[Throw]/Storm[Projectile]/Tron[Projectile]
6) Rogue[Throw]/Storm[Projectile]/Ironman[AAA]

Rogue/Sentinel series

1) Rogue[Throw]/Sentinel[Ground]/Cyclops[AAA]
2) Rogue[Throw]/Sentinel[Ground]/Capcom[AAA]
3) Rogue[Throw]/Sentinel[Ground]/Blackheart[AAA]
4) Rogue[Throw]/Sentinel[Ground]/Doom[AAA]
5) Rogue[Throw]/Sentinel[Ground]/Cammy[AAA]
6) Rogue[Throw]/Sentinel[Ground]/Ironman[AAA]

Rogue/Magneto Series

1) Rogue[Throw]/Magneto[Projectile]/Psylocke[AAA]
2) Rogue[Throw]/Magneto[Projectile]/Cyclops[AAA]
3) Rogue[Throw]/Magneto[Projectile]/Doom[AAA]
4) Rogue[Throw]/Magneto[Projectile]/Tron[Projectile]
5) Rogue[Throw]/Magneto[Projectile]/Capcom[AAA]
6) Rogue[Throw]/Magneto[Projectile]/Ironman[AAA]

Rogue/Cable Series

1) Rogue[Throw]/Cable[AAA]/Doom[AAA]
2) Rogue[Throw]/Cable[AAA]/Cyclops[AAA]
3) Rogue[Throw]/Cable[AAA]/Ironman[AAA]
4) Rogue[Throw]/Cable[AAA]/Cammy[AAA]
5) Rogue[Throw]/Cable[AAA]/Capcom[AAA]
6) Rogue[Throw]/Cable[AAA]/Jin[AAA] *

Top-Tier Series

1) Rogue[Throw]/Storm[Projectile]/Cable[AAA]
2) Rogue[Throw]/Magneto[Projectile]/Cable[AAA]
3) Rogue[Throw]/Sentinel[Ground]/Cable[AAA]
4) Magneto[Projectile]/Storm[Projectile]/Rogue[Throw]
5) Rogue[Throw]/Storm[Projectile/Sentinel[Ground]
6) Magneto[Projectile]/Sentinel[Ground]/Rogue[Throw]


* Jin's AAA is really debatable as a top-tier assist. Some people like it... some don't. I just sticked it in there just to make sure there is 6 rogue/cable teams. ^_^;;;

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Team Comments

This part will be how good Rogue/??? work together. Add your thoughts too.

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Rogue/Storm comments

This duo is SOLID. Probaly one of the best duos in the game in my opinion... right there with Mag/Psy and Sent/Capcom. Rogue's rushdown is easily complemented with Storm's Projectile and having Storm DHC Rogue out with Hailstorm is awesome. Plus Rogue's assist helps Storm set up a lot of unblockable/unrollable stuff.

Storm: dash in, s. lp, s. lk, call Rogue, Rogue hits, dash all the way back to the screen, Rogue lets go, Storm HK launcher into whatever air combo.

Pretty nice stuff and I know it can get even more complicated but since my DC died I havn't tried them out yet. =/

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Rogue/Sentinel comments

This is great... lifebar wise. You have two of the most strongest [defense-wise] characters in the game. Even though Sentinel's drones can be knocked away, they are pretty slow [a good thing in this case] which can give you some time to help you decide how to attack or simply tri-jump the shit out of your opponent while calling the drones. Rogue's assist can be used the same way like Storm except the timing is a bit harder. Oh here is a nice damaging DHC for Rogue and Sentinel.

Opponent in the Corner

Rogue: Call sent, Jumping d. HK, s. lp, s. lk, Drones hit, Jumping d. HK, s. lp, s. mp xx Repeating Punches XX GNS... wait until Rogue takes the enemy to the air, XX HSF, wait till the opponent comes down, Sentinel: launcher, lp, lk, mp, mk, rocket punch, fp, fk.

This does a lot of damage and I think it will kill anyone below average stamina. It's been a while since I done it though... but it's damaging and fun but you can miss if you mess up.

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Rogue/Magneto comments

This is a pretty decent duo I guess. I don't use Magneto too much but you can pretty much reset the damage [in theory...] when you do one of Mag's infinites. It's harder to do unrollable combos with Magneto since his launcher has weird angles but it's doable. I don't know much Magneto combos... so... yeah ^_^;;;

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Rogue/Cable

I think this duo is probaly the worst out of the 4 other couples. Rogue doesn't benefit that much from Cable but Cable does benefit alot from Rogue. Unblockable AHVBs!!! You can...

Cable: Dash in, s. lp, s. lk, Call Rogue, Rogue hits, dash to the opposite side of the screen and AHVB!!!!

I know that sounds sad but that's all I have for him. Oh and if you have good timing you can even delay your opponent from attacking by throwing a grenade before Rogue lets go then you can do an AHVB. But unlike Rogue's throw, Cable's grenade is mashable hence they might be able to block the AHVB.

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Rogue/Psylocke

Damn this is a pretty good duo as well. Psylocke's AAA can help up set up some combos for Rogue but if you don't act quickly though your opponent can roll away. For example....

Rollable: Psylocke AAA hits, Rogue c. lk, c.fp
Unrollable: Psylocke AAA hits, Rogue c.fp

Psylocke benefits from Rogue as well since she can use Rogue's assist to set up Psyblade XX Butterfly Super combos or help Psylocke set up [rollable] air combos. Only use Psylocke's Butterfly super to DHC Rogue out since it's a very safe move and deals the most damage I believe.

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Rogue/Cyclops

I like this duo because I use them ALOT. Rogue gains a lot from Cyclops AAA since she can do mini air combos and score a free power-up. Cyke benefits from Rogue pretty good too. Free MOB's and launchers but getting the launcher off is pretty difficult and at most times can be rollable or you just can't make it work.

Semi-Rollable: Rogue hits, Cyke dashes back, Rogue lets go, df. HK launcher.

Rollable: Rogue hits, Cyke dashes back, Rogue lets go, d. HK XX SOB.

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Rogue/Capcom

In this relationship, Capcom benefits having Rogue as an assist rather than Capcom helping out Rogue. Capcom's AAA knocks the opponent to far away to do anything unless you know FOR SURE that the Captain Corridor will hit and your close to the enemy, do the GNS right away then XX into the Captain Sword for some good damage. Other than that there ain't much. Rogue's assist can help bring the enemy's face right into a Captain corridor XX Captain sword but this tends to fuck up from time to time.

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Rogue/Doom

This team is alright. I mean most often than not, most players would just block Doom's AAA so that can mess up if you want to combo a power drain. Also if you power drain right when you kiss them, Doom's AAA could have no effect. Plus Rogue needs few but strong hits so she can take advantage of the game's damage buffering system.

Rogue's assist does help out Doom somewhat... free Air Photon supers. I don't know if this works but I think you can do this...

Doom: Dash in, lp, lk, Call Rogue, Rogue hits, Doom dashes back, Rogue lets go, c.lk, c.hp, air combo into air photon super.

But this combo is pretty rollable so just use it if your opponent can't roll for shit or tends not the roll.

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Rogue/Cammy

I don't like Cammy and this type of teamwork. Cammy gives Rogue nothing except that she is an invincible AAA. Woah! But that's it. Cammy takes advantage of Rogue's assist though since she can do one of her many OTG combos into air combo and finish t up with a killer bee assasult super. But all and all... this team ain't all that hot unless you REALLY like Cammy.

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Rogue/Ironman

Holy fuck... don't ever... EVER get caught in Ironman's AAA. That shit HURTS LIKE A BITCH. If Ironman's AAA does connect...

Rogue: Tri-jump with jumping d.HK, Call Ironman, s. lp, s. lk, s.mp Ironman hits, wait till opponent is above Rogue, c.fp, air combo

OR

Semi-Rollable: wait till opponent falls close to the ground [OTG], c.fp XX GNS XX Proton Cannon.

Both of these combos are extremely painful and but they are hard to execute since Ironman is not a very good AAA. Sure it hurts but most other AAA's like Psylock or Cammy will knock his ass out of the arena.

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Rogue/Tron

This couple have becoming quite infamous because of Tron's evil projectile glitch. This move does a lot of damage... sometimes suprassing some characters supers! Alas I wish I knew more combos with the duo but I don't know that much... Tron's assist helps Rogue pretty well to cross up her opponents. Tron doesn't get much benefit from Rogue's assist maybe except to connect her capture special xx Drill or Lunch Rush or Super Servbot.

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Rogue/Jin

Jin benefits alot from Rogue's assist. But Rogue gets jack from Jin. Jin's AAA is a lot like Capcom's AAA without the awesome veritcal range but it does surround himself and it's invinicble. Rogue can help Jin connect must of his supers easily except for Jin's Blodia punch because the opponent can in some point can block while they are getting hit by the super. Weird.

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Rogue/Blackheart

It's best that Rogue calls Blackheart's AAA while she is rushing down so she can avoid a whole messs of crap. She can then do a bootleg air combo once the enemy is hit by the AAA but you have to be quick.... but it doesn't do that much damage but hey everything counts ya know? I don't know if it's possible to do the Blackheart infinite [HK demons over and over] since when Rogue throws the opponent you can throw your demons at them and they will bounce but I think you can't keep on repeating after that.

GNS XX into any of Blackheart supers are good except maybe for Armageddon [the one where rocks fall] cuz the opponent can block from time to time. Weird....

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The End!

Well I don't know what else I can write about... I need more feedback from you guys! Tell me what you think.

[Augmint]

Rogue - storm - Ken?

[Saige]

Originally posted by Tanion
Rogue/Magneto comments

This is a pretty decent duo I guess. I don't use Magneto too much but you can pretty much reset the damage [in theory...] when you do one of Mag's infinites. It's harder to do unrollable combos with Magneto since his launcher has weird angles but it's doable. I don't know much Magneto combos... so... yeah ^_^;;;

It isn't that great a team IMO but I did see a nice unmashable tempest combo with them together.

Mag: Launch, j.hk, dash df, lk, lk, s. hk (1 hit) + Rogue (throw), cancel into flying, Rogue hits, go back a bit, tempest.

There isn't too much else for them as a team but if you land a GNS and cancel into tempest before Rogue kicks them up, they'll stay in suspended animation for the tempest.


Originally posted by Tanion
Rogue/Tron

This couple have becoming quite infamous because of Tron's evil projectile glitch. This move does a lot of damage... sometimes suprassing some characters supers! Alas I wish I knew more combos with the duo but I don't know that much... Tron's assist helps Rogue pretty well to cross up her opponents. Tron doesn't get much benefit from Rogue's assist maybe except to connect her capture special xx Drill or Lunch Rush or Super Servbot.

c. lk + Tron, s. lk, dash foward, c.wp, c.mp, s.mk, Repeating Puches xx GNS.

Sick damage, especially with Power Up (good god it's damaging).


Good thread.

[Tanion]

Originally posted by Saige


Mag: Launch, j.hk, dash df, lk, lk, s. hk (1 hit) + Rogue (throw), cancel into flying, Rogue hits, go back a bit, tempest.

c. lk + Tron, s. lk, dash foward, c.wp, c.mp, s.mk, Repeating Puches xx GNS.

Sick damage, especially with Power Up (good god it's damaging).


Good thread.

Mag: Yeah I like this type of combo. But it's there is a small chance of error because if you cancel the HK with the Hyper grav, the opponent will get either...

a) in block stun
b) in hit stun

And Rogue can't grab the enemy when they enemy is in those type of stuns. I think it would be better if was just dash, c.lk, Rogue call, Rogue hits, wait for it, grav xx tempest if your looking for something that's unmashable and pretty much error free. But the combo you posted [which I tried out] does a lot of good damage. I think you can combo more because the opponent remained in the air for a little bit and I managed to get in a jab or two in.

Tron: Here is some crazy shit....

Call tron, jumping d.hk, Tron hits, quickly cross-up with Rogue's airdash, jumping fp, land, s.lp, s.lk, s.mp, s. mk, repeating punches xx GNS.

OUCH! I havn't tried it when Rogue gets power up but DAMN.... it hurts!

I been messing around with Rogue/Blackheart. It's a pretty fun team. I need to play more with Blackheart, he has a lot going for him despite what people say.

Blackheart:

1) reverse-tigerknee airdash, call Rogue, Rogue hits, wait for it, s. hk, Inferno xx Heart of Darkness.

2) reverse-tigerknee airdash, call Rogue, Rogue hits, walk forward a little bit, Inferno xx Armaggedon [it does like 70-80 plus damage! DAMN!]

There are some things I have been trying to do with Sentinel's flight mode... even though I suck at doing unfly/fly combos but if you cancel your AC with flight, you can call Rogue as they fall down. This works most of the time if your opponent doesn't have double jump or some sort of airdash or other extra movement abilites. I'm pretty sure ROC had a infinite with Sentinel/Rogue using this trick. It's pretty difficult to do in tourney play but it's pretty fun.

Fake Infinite by ROC:

Sentinel: S.rh, SJ., SJ.lp, Sj.lk, SJ.mp, SJ.mk xx Flight mode -- Call Rogue Throw Assist -- Un-Fly -- Land take 3 steps back -- Launch and repeat.

Hmmm... I guess that's it for now. I'll add more stuff when I can oh yeah here is some fun stuff for Rogue/Doom

Rogue: c.hk, call Doom, GNS, wait till Rogue is kissing, Doom's Sphere Flame [misses], c.fp, AC, Photon Array.

But it's a lot more damage if you simpy just GNS into Photon Array... just make sure you cancel it right when Rogue kicks the opponent in the air for maximum damage. It does like 75-80 damage for some reason. Weird. o_O;

Well I guess' that's it for now... oh wait I said that already... lol. Well I'm out. I hope the Rogue thread becomes popular again as it was before.

[Edma]

Magneto/Rogue is just as scary as Magneto/Psylocke. Maybe not as well rounded but as far as the whole get hit once and die fear factor is concerned, Mag/Rogue has that probably moreso then any Mag/X team.

RK(1 hit) and call Rogue is inescapable. I have never had one person escape out of it if I timed it right EVER. EVER spans over a time period of something like from a few months before B5 till now. If somone doesn't always do this with Mags/Rogue given the oppurtunity they need to. You know you timed it right if they can't attack on the way down from the first hit of the RK and if you don't cancel the RK with anything and still only get one hit. You can cancel it with his force field if you want though to try and make it easier. Anyway, in other words, Mags hit you with one low short into launch and unless you're one of the heavy characters, you are straight DEAD. No mashing out (you can setup a non mashable Hyper GravxxTempest into infinite), no blocking the right way, Mags doesn't even have to DHC. DEAD and then some. There's more tricks to that team but that's all you really need. Also Rogue's kiss, give you free switch out into combo after a c. sk, c. rk. juggle as long as not on heavy characters and not too far from the side of the screen. Rogue Kiss is definetly one of the better assists in the game and really compliments Magneto's rushdown.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Tron is probably the most effective assist for Rogue if you're rushing down. You land one hit and bam, half, or more, of thier life is gone with the chance to cross up or DHC into something else.

Something I always do is jumpin fp or dhk, call tron slk, jdh, slk shk (launch), sj lp sjlp sjfp, then come back around and attack either high or low while calling Tron. That combo does a hell of a lot of damage and you don't even gotta use a super. You could just cancel into GNS and then the next person for a lot of damage. But I like leaving Rogue in for as long as possible unless it's against Sent.

[Tanion]

I have been fooling around with Blackheart and Rogue for a bit and Blackheart can take advantage of Rogue's assist pretty well. Here are some combos.

1) Call Rogue, airdash back, Rogue hits, LP Inferno* XX Armaggedon

Damage: +80 on level 2 setting

2) Call Rogue, airdash forward, Rogue hits, s. RK, HP Inferno xx HOD

Damage: 60-70? on level 2 setting

Combo 1: This combo is powerful but you have to be careful that you use LP inferno. If you use the other type of Inferno, it might miss and you could miss the Armaggedon too. It's more reliable to hit with the LP Inferno XX Armggedon as well as more damaging.

Combo 2: Normally s.rk xx Inferno doesn't work but if you timed it right, some demons will attach to your opponent when Rogue throws them away. Then quickly cancel the s.rk into the HP inferno XX HOD. I am pretty sure this can't be mashed because of the bouncing glitch the RK demons do.

Oh yeah... Rogue can GNS XX Doom's Photon Array pretty good. Normally, the enemy could block after a certain time during Doom's super and leave Doom vunerable. But if you cancel it right when Rogue kicks to opponent in the air XX Doom's Photon Array. And you will do the maximum damage.

On another note... opponents can not roll when they get hit from Doom's photon array! That opens for a lot of stuff since when they are on the ground they are more vunerable as opposed if you cancel the Photon Array when the opponent is still in the air.

Oh yeah... tell me what you guys think of this team.

Rogue[Throw]/Blackheart[AAA]/Doom[AAA]

It's not that bad but I gotta learn how to play with Blackheart and Doom better since I'm mostly using their assists and supers instead of the actual characters. Well take care.

[vegita-x]

hey was up everyone I sometime forget to check the rogue thread out because no one ever post something.

I have used a lot of rogue teams in the past first team was Rogue/Wolerine/Psylocke hella good. At b5 I used Rogue/Sentinel/Doom and almost won my pool but the last match I got shot by cable times 3:( I will not ever play with cable because he sucks so much. Now I only use two teams and I will never change it up. Rogue/Storm/Tron......Rogue/Sentinel/jin
O yeah I do not use rogue throw assist because a really good player will never get caught my that, so I use her AAA assist and found out over the past year that it is better than the throw in a lot of ways. Down here in New Orlean there r a couple of rogue player but really can not beat a top tier team for some reason.
I'm the only person that can use her and beat storms,sentinel,cables and of course magneto. I have never really lost against another rogue player I guess because I know all of her tricks. but I'm glad to see other people using her eventhough its a very small amount.
And out of all the rogue players that I see none of them really travel out of state to other tournments. I always seem to place in the top 5 no matter where I go but never seems to be able to win:mad: I've only won a couple of tournys in the past few months but most recent was TS3 4th place and Showdown in the South 2, 2nd place.....fuck I come so close to victory and lose. But anyway I will be going to all the big tourny coming up such as ECC8,Midwest, and what ever else they have coming up. So I know I will probably be the only one using rogue or maybe 1 other person but everytime I see someone else using her they lose pretty qickly and a since of sadness falls into play:( So hopefully I can go to ECC8 and placed pretty high if not win it. I only worry about 1 person and thats justin wong, he plays so werid and its hard to understand what he's going to do. So to who every that is not going wish me luck.

And John P from texas... I notice u picked a different team after I beat u at TS3 why did u leave rogue after we played. No matter what situation is u can change your team up a little bit but never ever leave rogue out. you will never be able to beat a top teir team like that, man I've lost a lot of matches and everyone was like pick someone else but how can u get better if everytime u r in a sticky situation u leave out your main character. When I travel to tournments I go there for the comp and not to really think that I going to win r anything but just to have fun. At showdown me and mixup was in the finals after I put him in the loser bracket he then picked team scrub on me and his sentinel was really killing my rogue and everyone was like pick someone else and I could have because I do know how to play with magneto and msp and a lot of other teams but I chose to stick with rogue to the very end. I didn't care about really winning and it wouldn't have felt right if I won the tourny without her on my team, shit she had got me this far so I stuck with her and went out fighting and got 2nd place. Everyone was like u r a true Rogue player to heart they would have just picked someone else to counter him. I know but I know what I did wrong and next time we meet I will be ready for him. I'm just in love with her thats all.
Well hopefully I see other rogue players at Evoution(b7) this time so I guess I halla at u all later.



Rogue4life

[protocal]

Me and my friend use Rogue down here(south texas). He uses her combos better, but i do her rushes better. She's my favorite character in the game by far. I don't know that shes top tier seeing as nobody down here is really great with any top tiers(cable, sentinel, storm, etc.)

My team consists of Guile(AA), Storm(proj), Rogue (throw)

Obviously i use storm so i can rush them down with rogue, but i mostly put rogue last as my last resort character.

Oh btw is the only way to link Rogues secret super (air)d. hk,(ground) lk, mk...then super. Is that the only way to do it? I mean its pretty easy don't get me wrong, but just wondering since i hear your the best Rogue player around.

[Tanion]

The only way to do it is if you are using Rogue by herself [so that means you can do that super X amount of times] or if you have one or two team mates left then you need to have level 1 and only level 1. If you have level 2 it will cause your other character to get in and mess up the combo.

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by Tanion
The only way to do it is if you are using Rogue by herself [so that means you can do that super X amount of times] or if you have one or two team mates left then you need to have level 1 and only level 1. If you have level 2 it will cause your other character to get in and mess up the combo.


yeah thats correct but if u really want to do some damage play with Rogue/Jugg/Jin I use to play with them a while back. Man if u have a level 3 with them who ever helper u hit will lose at least 80% easly. Now this is a low teir team from Hell!



Rogue4life

[DrumlinerJoe]

Oh ya'll I really need help on playing against Cable with assists like Sent (proj or ground), Cammy, Ken, and Cap. I mostly use Rogue/Storm/Tronn or Cammy. I'm really bad about losing my patience and eating too many AAA's or getting me or my point or assist caught up in AHVB. Tips anyone?

[ROC]

Originally posted by DrumlinerJoe
Oh ya'll I really need help on playing against Cable with assists like Sent (proj or ground), Cammy, Ken, and Cap. I mostly use Rogue/Storm/Tronn or Cammy. I'm really bad about losing my patience and eating too many AAA's or getting me or my point or assist caught up in AHVB. Tips anyone?

The only thing I can say is be patient and try and bait out his assist.

AAA's: Bait them out with a blocking jump in then land j. down + RH. If they block do c.LK + Tron, if they block that go for the sj air dash cross up.

If your using cammy aaa assist try not to use it cause it can only hit one person and if that one is not Cable shes gonna die a thousand deaths!

[GeekBoy]

A good one would be like Rogue/IM/Sent. Rogue throw assist helps these two IMMENSELY, giving you a lot of damage off of one throw. Iron Man has the infinite and Sentinel has a plethora of damaging combos. Basically, anybody who can have a very damaging combo off of Rogue throw, is a good match with her.

[Tanion]

This combo is 100%... well sometimes it is. Depends on certain things...

1) If your opponent can't tech hit for crap
2) If your opponent can't mash out of grav xx tempest.

Here goes.

Rogue: call Magneto, j. fp, EM hits, GNS, wait till for the kiss, Magneto's Shockwave [whiff], (OTG) c.lk, c.hp, s.rk, airdash downatards, FP throw, dash towards opponent, tri-jump with j,rk, s.lp, s.lk, call rogue, rogue hits, wait for her to let go, c.hp, aircombo into Grav XX tempest OR extended aircombo with the dash.

Geekboy: Hmmm... can Ironman really get his infinite off Rogue's throw assist? Cool'ness! But do what was Ironman's infinite? jumping, lk, lp, up fp or something? I been really wanting to learn how to use Ironman so I can keep my team mid-tier [Rogue(throw)/Cyke(AAA)/Ironman(AAA)]... been getting tired of seeing top-tier crap of teams consiting two or more of the big four. Kinda boring ¬_¬

Omg I hate Storm so much! Especially with commando... so much lazy'ness... launch, corridor, hailstorm... FUCK!!! Too much damage and so simple. And Storm gets crazy meter cuz she runs away like a he-bitch. Bah.

[ShiN WildcaT]

Originally posted by Tanion
[Geekboy: Hmmm... can Ironman really get his infinite off Rogue's throw assist? Cool'ness! But do what was Ironman's infinite? jumping, lk, lp, up fp or something? I been really wanting to learn how to use Ironman so I can keep my team mid-tier [Rogue(throw)/Cyke(AAA)/Ironman(AAA)]... been getting tired of seeing top-tier crap of teams consiting two or more of the big four. Kinda boring ¬_¬ [/B]


It's only boring if you make it boring. Mags/Storm/Sent/Cable can be played effectively and not boring if you are active. Cable would be the hardest to play "fun" but he can still play a stupid mixup/rush game w/ proper assists. And don't forget the unblockable low short!

[ROC]

Originally posted by Tanion
Omg I hate Storm so much! Especially with commando... so much lazy'ness... launch, corridor, hailstorm... FUCK!!! Too much damage and so simple. And Storm gets crazy meter cuz she runs away like a he-bitch. Bah.

Ya thats why I started to use CapCom with Rogue. He's a good all around assist for stopping Storm from excessive running + I always combo him into my aircombos for good damage.

[Bunko]

Hey I hope some of you rogue users can help me out. I've started to use rogue, and she is a fun character, but my problem is that I always get destroyed by Dr. Doom assist. What's the best way to get around the doom anti air? Vegita X i know you have a really good rushdown storm, and I basically use the same team as you( the rogue, storm, tron team). How do you beat a team such as cable/doom/capcom, or magneto/doom? It seems that before I know it, my rogue is down to half life without even being hit...doom really tears up my tron assist, so I cant really get at the other character. Any tips?

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by Bunko
Hey I hope some of you rogue users can help me out. I've started to use rogue, and she is a fun character, but my problem is that I always get destroyed by Dr. Doom assist. What's the best way to get around the doom anti air? Vegita X i know you have a really good rushdown storm, and I basically use the same team as you( the rogue, storm, tron team). How do you beat a team such as cable/doom/capcom, or magneto/doom? It seems that before I know it, my rogue is down to half life without even being hit...doom really tears up my tron assist, so I cant really get at the other character. Any tips?


yeah in case u didn't know r ready there r only a few assists that counters Tron and they are Doom,Cyc, and jin and a couple of the street fighter character but no one plays with them so its nothing to worry about. But for doom I know that it seems almost impossible to beat that team with my team but its very easy actually. First don't ever call tron out when doom is out because she will get own everytime But it goes the same way with doom if u call out tron first doom can not come out with his rocks. Magneto doom is a lot harder to beat then cable doom, second I'm not sure how well u rush down so that could play a big factor and your defense has got to be solid to beable to defend against magneto rushdown. also remenber to try to snap in capcom and RUSH THE SHIT OUT OF HIM. Be patience u said just started playing with her so it is going to take some time for u to get comfortable with her. Fuck I've been playing with her since the game came out and there were many of times I was like MAN FUCK THIS GIRL I'm leaving her all together. O yeah Try to remenber that all u have to do is tap doom on his head and he won't be able to come out so just try to stay on him before he call doom out. And also when playing agianst doom are really anyone use storm projectal assist it goes straight threw doom and me personly I love to cross people up with it. I really don't like tron but I pick her for people that can't seems to stop calling there assist out for some reason. O yeah and please for the love that is Rogue don't tell me u just try to keep on dive kicking on him because if that is the case u will never win. and if u ever play against a real good sentinel player or magneto player like I have to do deal with every fucking day aka (magneto_x) u better do some serious training if u want to beat teams like MSP,TEAM SCRUB.......etc. Also Remenber U have to mix it up on him she has so much to offer other then that kick. SO MANY CROSSUPS AND RESETS hopefully I'll be finish my combo vid of her and put it on the net in a month or two. I'm finish it but not sure how u put it on line.:confused:



P.S Rogue,Storm,Tron isn't really that good if each one of your characters isn't 100% down, remenber storm plays a big part in your victory even tron. Say did u know tron has a triangle jump, I have beaten full magneto with just tron :lol: :lol:


Well not sure if I help or not I can do better showing u then telling u, say r u planning on going to ECC8 it would be cool to have another rogue player at a big tourny like this? Fuck for the team tourny I want to have nothing but rogue players on it:evil: :evil:

[MiXuP2.1]

Originally posted by vegita-x
hey was up everyone I sometime forget to check the rogue thread out because no one ever post something.

I have used a lot of rogue teams in the past first team was Rogue/Wolerine/Psylocke hella good. At b5 I used Rogue/Sentinel/Doom and almost won my pool but the last match I got shot by cable times 3:( I will not ever play with cable because he sucks so much. Now I only use two teams and I will never change it up. Rogue/Storm/Tron......Rogue/Sentinel/jin
O yeah I do not use rogue throw assist because a really good player will never get caught my that, so I use her AAA assist and found out over the past year that it is better than the throw in a lot of ways. Down here in New Orlean there r a couple of rogue player but really can not beat a top tier team for some reason.
I'm the only person that can use her and beat storms,sentinel,cables and of course magneto. I have never really lost against another rogue player I guess because I know all of her tricks. but I'm glad to see other people using her eventhough its a very small amount.
And out of all the rogue players that I see none of them really travel out of state to other tournments. I always seem to place in the top 5 no matter where I go but never seems to be able to win:mad: I've only won a couple of tournys in the past few months but most recent was TS3 4th place and Showdown in the South 2, 2nd place.....fuck I come so close to victory and lose. But anyway I will be going to all the big tourny coming up such as ECC8,Midwest, and what ever else they have coming up. So I know I will probably be the only one using rogue or maybe 1 other person but everytime I see someone else using her they lose pretty qickly and a since of sadness falls into play:( So hopefully I can go to ECC8 and placed pretty high if not win it. I only worry about 1 person and thats justin wong, he plays so werid and its hard to understand what he's going to do. So to who every that is not going wish me luck.

And John P from texas... I notice u picked a different team after I beat u at TS3 why did u leave rogue after we played. No matter what situation is u can change your team up a little bit but never ever leave rogue out. you will never be able to beat a top teir team like that, man I've lost a lot of matches and everyone was like pick someone else but how can u get better if everytime u r in a sticky situation u leave out your main character. When I travel to tournments I go there for the comp and not to really think that I going to win r anything but just to have fun. At showdown me and mixup was in the finals after I put him in the loser bracket he then picked team scrub on me and his sentinel was really killing my rogue and everyone was like pick someone else and I could have because I do know how to play with magneto and msp and a lot of other teams but I chose to stick with rogue to the very end. I didn't care about really winning and it wouldn't have felt right if I won the tourny without her on my team, shit she had got me this far so I stuck with her and went out fighting and got 2nd place. Everyone was like u r a true Rogue player to heart they would have just picked someone else to counter him. I know but I know what I did wrong and next time we meet I will be ready for him. I'm just in love with her thats all.
Well hopefully I see other rogue players at Evoution(b7) this time so I guess I halla at u all later.



Rogue4life


HAHAHAHAHAHA soooooo salty:lol:

And it was sent/cable/cyc that won 8-0 thx

As for rogue, veg-x's is the best, period. i've seen vids of other rogue players and their style ect. Nobody i've seen has a grip on that bitch to this overall level.

Rogue/tron owns mag/assist happy fool , you gotta utilize somthing else to win this one:D

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by MiXuP2.1



HAHAHAHAHAHA soooooo salty:lol:

And it was sent/cable/cyc that won 8-0 thx

As for rogue, veg-x's is the best, period. i've seen vids of other rogue players and their style ect. Nobody i've seen has a grip on that bitch to this overall level.

Rogue/tron owns mag/assist happy fool , you gotta utilize somthing else to win this one:D


Say mixup this is for Rogue players only.....trying to still some tips on defeating her hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.:lol:

[Bunko]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by vegita-x

O yeah and please for the love that is Rogue don't tell me u just try to keep on dive kicking on him because if that is the case u will never win. and if u ever play against a real good sentinel player or magneto player like I have to do deal with every fucking day aka (magneto_x) u better do some serious training if u want to beat teams like MSP,TEAM SCRUB.......etc. Also Remenber U have to mix it up on him she has so much to offer other then that kick. SO MANY CROSSUPS AND RESETS hopefully I'll be finish my combo vid of her and put it on the net in a month or two. I'm finish it but not sure how u put it on line.:confused:



P.S Rogue,Storm,Tron isn't really that good if each one of your characters isn't 100% down, remenber storm plays a big part in your victory even tron. Say did u know tron has a triangle jump, I have beaten full magneto with just tron :lol: :lol:


Well not sure if I help or not I can do better showing u then telling u, say r u planning on going to ECC8 it would be cool to have another rogue player at a big tourny like this? Fuck for the team tourny I want to have nothing but rogue players on it:evil: :evil: [/B][/QU

Thanks for the pointers. I use the dive kick sometimes but I mostly try to start my rushdown with her low air dash and the double short kick, then I either rush in low or call out tron assist and try to cross them up and attack from the other side. I'm not too consistent yet with her rushdown/could use some tips. My storm always ends up doing the bulk of the dirty work, but hopefully ill get better with practice, since rogue was my favorite character in old school x-men vs. streetfighter.

I live in cali so I cant make it to ECC8, but good luck man I hope you fuck shit up with rogue.

[white shadow]

For those who say Rogue sucks with Cammy, here's my combo I use that duz a lot:

Stole from VDO: s.lp, s.lk,*call Cammy* s.lk, s.rk SJ j.fp*Cammy hits* d.j.rk 73 points of damage or 1/3 of Sent's life on damage 2 setting!!!! MONSTER!!!:lol: :eek: :lol:

I also Sent Proj it rocks with Rogue every Power Drain u can dash S.FP and call Sent Proj which does mucho damage and cancel into GNS!!!:evil:

Here are my teams: Rogue/Sent/Cable, Rogue/Sent/Cammy,
Rogue/Cable/Sent Proj, Rogue/Sent/Cyke and Rogue/IM/Sent. I have contemplated about using Rogue/Sent/Tron but I don't want to seem like a copycat and that team lacks an AA.
:(

[vegita-x]

[Here are my teams: Rogue/Sent/Cable, Rogue/Sent/Cammy,
Rogue/Cable/Sent Proj, Rogue/Sent/Cyke and Rogue/IM/Sent. I have contemplated about using Rogue/Sent/Tron but I don't want to seem like a copycat and that team lacks an AA.
:( [/B][/QUOTE]


yeah but thats why your 2nd and 3rd character has got to be 100% affected. Rogue/IM/Sent. is a very good team and if I played IM hardcore I would used that team everytime in tournys. But has far cable I would rather eat rogue out than play with him,,,,,hummmmmmmmmm come to think about it I do that for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:D

[MiXuP2.1]

Originally posted by vegita-x



Say mixup this is for Rogue players only.....trying to still some tips on defeating her hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.:lol:

Lol, imma just learn to play as her..it'll be much easier after that:sweat: :p

[Tanion]

Originally posted by vegita-x
[Here are my teams: Rogue/Sent/Cable, Rogue/Sent/Cammy,
Rogue/Cable/Sent Proj, Rogue/Sent/Cyke and Rogue/IM/Sent. I have contemplated about using Rogue/Sent/Tron but I don't want to seem like a copycat and that team lacks an AA.
:(


yeah but thats why your 2nd and 3rd character has got to be 100% affected. Rogue/IM/Sent. is a very good team and if I played IM hardcore I would used that team everytime in tournys. But has far cable I would rather eat rogue out than play with him,,,,,hummmmmmmmmm come to think about it I do that for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:D [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah... that's why Rogue/Storm/Tron is awesome because Storm doesn't need an AAA. That bitch is so self-efficient it isn't funny. Not sure if the same can be said with Rogue/Mag/Tron. =X

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by Tanion



yeah but thats why your 2nd and 3rd character has got to be 100% affected. Rogue/IM/Sent. is a very good team and if I played IM hardcore I would used that team everytime in tournys. But has far cable I would rather eat rogue out than play with him,,,,,hummmmmmmmmm come to think about it I do that for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:D

Yeah... that's why Rogue/Storm/Tron is awesome because Storm doesn't need an AAA. That bitch is so self-efficient it isn't funny. Not sure if the same can be said with Rogue/Mag/Tron. =X [/B][/QUOTE]



Rogue/Mag/Tron is really good but magnus doesn't really work well with tron like storm does or sentinel. I only play like 3 or 4 teams top with rogue and it really all depends on the player and how they play. For ex. for team like team seattle I will probably pick rogue/storm/sentinel if My rogue /strom/tron dosen't work. For team scrub......Rogue/Sentinel/doom..... but if I have to face Jwong again I will probably pick Rogue/Sentinel/Jin for his Mag/Storm/Doom shit.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by Tanion



yeah but thats why your 2nd and 3rd character has got to be 100% affected. Rogue/IM/Sent. is a very good team and if I played IM hardcore I would used that team everytime in tournys. But has far cable I would rather eat rogue out than play with him,,,,,hummmmmmmmmm come to think about it I do that for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:D

Yeah... that's why Rogue/Storm/Tron is awesome because Storm doesn't need an AAA. That bitch is so self-efficient it isn't funny. Not sure if the same can be said with Rogue/Mag/Tron. =X [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanx for the tip too bad I suck with Storm.:( I'm really focusing on Rogue/Cable/Sent Proj 4 now, this team has some REAL potential!!!:evil:

Speaking of that team heres another cool combo: s.lp, s.lk, *call Sent Proj*, s.mk *RP hits* (jump UF) j.lk, j.mp, j.fp then Power Drain when they bounce up. This is more effective than your standard AC because u can end of with a j.fp and a kiss too instead of choosing Damage vs Enhancements!!!:D

[ROC]

These are the teams I being using lately:

Rogue(throw or aaa) | Storm(proj.) | Tron(proj.)
Rogue(throw) | Cable(aaa) | CapCom(aaa)
Rogue(throw/aaa) | Iron Man(aaa)/Storm(proj.) | Doom(aaa)

EDIT: Rogue(throw) | Magneto(proj.) | Storm(proj.)

[Neo_Slasher]

Originally posted by Tanion


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Rogue/Capcom

In this relationship, Capcom benefits having Rogue as an assist rather than Capcom helping out Rogue. Capcom's AAA knocks the opponent to far away to do anything unless you know FOR SURE that the Captain Corridor will hit and your close to the enemy, do the GNS right away then XX into the Captain Sword for some good damage. Other than that there ain't much. Rogue's assist can help bring the enemy's face right into a Captain corridor XX Captain sword but this tends to fuck up from time to time.

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[/B]


Rouge/sent/capcom

by the way CapCom helps rouge a lot by covering her with his assist and icreasing rouge's air combo damage by launch+commando and air combo of choice ! it takes1/2 life bar on sent! without power up

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by Neo_Slasher



Rouge/sent/capcom

by the way CapCom helps rouge a lot by covering her with his assist and icreasing rouge's air combo damage by launch+commando and air combo of choice ! it takes1/2 life bar on sent! without power up





yeah that's a good team but as for me my top two teams are Rogue/Storm/Tron and Rogue/Magneto/Doom I kinda stop playing with sentinel since everyone on the game plays with him. Trying to figure out what team is better and which one to use at EVO2k3 this year. Both teams are equal to me so I'm not sure which one to use. We had a get together at the acarde and I had at least 15 wins staight Say mike(mixup) this goes out to you mainly, After playing chris all they I'm finally 100% with magneto and I can rape the shit out of sentinel with this team.

RST and RMD
Rogue4life


P.S ITS SPELL ROGUE FOR THOSE OUT THERE NOT ROUGE

[ROC]

I'll give RMD a try, since when I use MSR I struggle agains Sent/AAA.

Its strage tho, when I use RMS I have no problem.

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by ROC
I'll give RMD a try, since when I use MSR I struggle agains Sent/AAA.

Its strage tho, when I use RMS I have no problem.




RMS is good but is that rogue/Magneto/Storm....or Sentinel. Beside sentinel is just to cheap, cheaper then cable.
Say roc are you planning on going to EVO2k3 this year.




Rogue4life

[ROC]

I would just like to add Team Edma to tanion's list: Mag | Rogue | Cable

Good team cause you got Unblockable+Reseted Comobs with Rogue assist. Safe DHC into Rogue and Counter into AHVB with Cable.

I have recently aquired some vids of both Vegita and Edma so if your interrested hit me up on:

AIM: r0cxx
MSN: jdunnone@hotmail.com

[vegita-x]

Say Roc I have those vids I wish u could have seen me play at EVo2k3 I think that was my best performance in a tounry. The vids from texas wasn't that good an the sticks wasn't all that, but hope you enjoy them anyway. Say u should try to come to one of the Texas Regional tourny one day.



Rogue4life

[Mixup]

Yes patrick fucking dominated with rogue ahahaahah too good!

[KaiSing]

My trademark Rogue/Dhalsim AA combo.

land a jump in (jumpin fierce or divekick), s lk, s lk, s hk, call sim, sj, sj fierce (knocks them into flame), **sj fierce**, dive kick OTG, s hk launch.

this does about 55-65% damage. For the second fierce, you have to float over their head after hitting the first one so that when you connect the second one, you are on the other side of them.

After the last hit, there are many ways you can follow up. You can air dash forward after jumping to nail another dive kick resulting in the instant kill. Or you can do a kiss, and if they roll, cross them up and do the combo again for instant death.

Anyway, Rogue is dope. If i weren't a strider player, i'd be usin rogue.:p

[ROC]

Ya Vegita the matches I saw where ok but in most of them as soon as your rogue comes out she gets rushed and killed.

But they where still pretty good.

And I'll problly wont be going as far as texas for a tournament but I'm really gonna try to go to the next big eastcost tournament.

Also does anyone use Spiral ground assist? Its like trons minus the damage but has more range and comes out faster and lasts longer I think, tron is still better but she's a nice change.

[Tanion]

I think Tron's assist has more priority than Spiral's ground assist. Plus I don't think it even does chip damage which is a first since just about everything does chip minus Heal/Bonus assists.

[ROC]

For sure Tron is better but just like to mix things up by useing different characters.

JOIN THE LEGION TODAY! im playin.

[vegita-x]

Say Roc nice Avatar. I'm glad to see that u don't have sentinel in it. I will never used that cheap as character as long as I live.
Fucking RST for life.
Fuck all sentinels.

[ROC]

Originally posted by vegita-x
Say Roc nice Avatar. I'm glad to see that u don't have sentinel in it. I will never used that cheap as character as long as I live.
Fucking RST for life.
Fuck all sentinels.

I'm sensing some anger towards sentinel. Did you have a bad expirence?

[Tanion]

Jeez someone doesn't like Sentinel lol. I'm beginning to switch him out for my team of Rogue/Cyclops/Doom which I am loving to death! Fear the power of chip!

Damn that's an AWESOME avatar Roc. I wish I could make an avatar like that but I suck x_x;;;. I wanna join the Legion! :evil: Hey I posted up a combo for Rogue so she can be able to do resets when the opponent is in the corner. It's in the Rogue's reset section did you check it out? I'm thinking that it was already said somewhere since I havn't heard anyone talk about it.

Anyways... do you think there needs to be an update in first post here? To update the Team list. Well I'm out... peace!

[magneto_x]

Originally posted by Mixup
Yes patrick fucking dominated with rogue ahahaahah too good!
I just saw this lolz...Hey Pat..You know Sentinal Owns you for free..lolz but you have mastered the true Path to Rogue..I give you that!!

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by magneto_x

I just saw this lolz...Hey Pat..You know Sentinal Owns you for free..lolz but you have mastered the true Path to Rogue..I give you that!!




Sentinel does not own me and if u mean just flying around all day well I guess so. anyway that's were storm comes into play:evil:
Fuck sentinel he's cheap and u know it chris. Rogue for fucking life.
I will stick by my angel's until the end of time.
Rogue/Storm/Tron.........RST for life nigggaaaaaaaaaaa:cool:

[DrumlinerJoe]

Here you go Vegita X. A pic tailor made for you it seems.

[magneto_x]

Originally posted by vegita-x





Sentinel does not own me and if u mean just flying around all day well I guess so. anyway that's were storm comes into play:evil:
Fuck sentinel he's cheap and u know it chris. Rogue for fucking life.
I will stick by my angel's until the end of time.
Rogue/Storm/Tron.........RST for life nigggaaaaaaaaaaa:cool:

Wait just a dorn minute here...You dont even have a cpu....Stop breaking into Duanes house trying to use he's Cpu lolz kidding :P
oh well Sentinal is cheap but I use him so I dont care....Hey Drumline guy:where did you get that pic from....Oh well I dont care...it doesn't matter....

PeAce Out!!!:D :lol:

[JummPeee]

hey i want to be in that legion thingy... haha cuz its got a nice av... Rogue/cable/ (cc or cyke) .... the true john P way to win...:lol: or rogue cyke tronn.... fuck rushdown wen u play with dat shit... I beat pat with my triple C :lol: ... haha jus fuckin around... til regionals


o and CREECY sucks balls!! haha had to add some shit talkin

[DrumlinerJoe]

I got it off some random Rogue fan site while I was bored at work a couple of months ago. I downloaded a whole bunch of Rogue pics in order to try and make a good AV.

[Neo Odin]

Well I tried Rogue out today for real and shes great, I love
using her, and since i love ironman too I put her with:
Rogue(throw)/IM(AA)/Magneto(projet)

Her throw does wonders for ironman it sets up his ground and
air infinite..

Anyway im on my way to the strats thread for more info....:)

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by DrumlinerJoe
Here you go Vegita X. A pic tailor made for you it seems.




Say could u make me an avatar like that please? or something like that. Man I would pay money.


RST4life

[magneto_x]

Originally posted by vegita-x





Say could u make me an avatar like that please? or something like that. Man I would pay money.


RST4life

Yeah could you make me one too...With sentinal stuffin something
Down!...Oh wait.. What am I saying here....Rogue's Great....
just Sentinal PWNS her,...!!heh:lol: :D

[DrumlinerJoe]

Sorry ya'll, don't to AVs. Ya'll could probably ask someone else. And I gotta whole bunch of other pics of Psy and Storm if ya'll want me to post them.

[magneto_x]

Originally posted by DrumlinerJoe
Sorry ya'll, don't to AVs. Ya'll could probably ask someone else. And I gotta whole bunch of other pics of Psy and Storm if ya'll want me to post them.

Im not interested.....My Vegita-x will be...I think that he needs a new team ne way...Because Rogue,Storm,TB isn't working that well!!!Just kiddingWell kind of..:D

[DrumlinerJoe]

Hey ya'll, I don't know if it's been mentioned already, but I noticed something when I was watching a vid of one of my matches the other day.

I had just beaten a storm with the power drain and had the speedup when Doom came in. The guy got me in a launcher to air combo xx into photon super DCH into Mega Optic Blast. Anyhow, I noticed that while she was getting hit with both supers, the speedup meter paused and I had extra time to use it. Do ya'll know if this is the case with the other power drain powerups?

[gbursine]

Originally posted by DrumlinerJoe
Hey ya'll, I don't know if it's been mentioned already, but I noticed something when I was watching a vid of one of my matches the other day.

I had just beaten a storm with the power drain and had the speedup when Doom came in. The guy got me in a launcher to air combo xx into photon super DCH into Mega Optic Blast. Anyhow, I noticed that while she was getting hit with both supers, the speedup meter paused and I had extra time to use it. Do ya'll know if this is the case with the other power drain powerups?

ya i noticed that when i did the semi-inf, and was geting infinitied by mags, the speedup and def-up both slowed down... prolly the same w/ powerup... prolly the armor-ups too

[Tanion]

Basically any power-up she gains... whenever she hits someone or is getting hit the meter will kinda "lag" for a bit. For course this is good for you in the sense that you will be able to have said bonus for a longer time. Also another thing to note is that when Rogue steals Hyper Armor [Colossus Super or Silv Sam Super] she will have Hyper Armor for a LONG Time. They usually only last 7 seconds but when Rogue steals it... it lasts about 15-20 seconds.

So when you get infinite'd by Magneto with a Defence Up Rogue... he better find a reset cuz he will start doing 1 pixel of damage after like 4-5 hits as opposed to 15.

[ROC]

D-UP vs magneto is hella cheap. :)

Cammy AAA vs a zoning Sent = good
Cammy AAA vs rush down Sent with CapCom Back up = Bad

Good outweights bad tho.

[golba666]

Originally posted by Neo_Slasher



Rouge/sent/capcom

by the way CapCom helps rouge a lot by covering her with his assist and icreasing rouge's air combo damage by launch+commando and air combo of choice ! it takes1/2 life bar on sent! without power up
yes yes yes capcom assist/rogue ac = too good.

My tourney team is usually scrub but Rogue(throw)/sent(ground)/commando(aaa) is my number 2 choice.

I came up with a new rogue/sent(ground) combo today.. i appologize if its allready mentioned.. c.lp c.lp c.lk c.fp call sent.. *slowly* lp lk fp (opponent hits sent assist and bounces up) Hp throw or FP. i imagine u could even do lp lk kiss and if in the corner u could probably otg with lk then s.fp GNS frame cancel to sent or wutever.. lots of possibilities im thinking. Its some flashy crap and it hurts.

VegitaX: lets see that combo vid.. ppl giving u props for the best rogue so i wanna see for myself.

i wish i coulda made ecc8.. an all rogue team would have been great stuff.. maybe next year we can plot.

[white shadow]

Darn, and I though I was the only one that used Rogue/Cable Sent (Proj.).:mad: :p


Here's another Rogue trick I use, after killing a character you can dash behind the incoming character and use power drain. Or with my team Power Drain call Sent Proj. S.FP, RP hits GNS for mucho damage!!! :D

Here's my Rogue teams: Rogue/Sent/Cable-Cyke-Psy-Cammy-Tron, Rogue/IM/Sent,.

I used to use Rogue/Sent/Capcom but I suck with Capcom on point, I prefer Cammy more. :p

For me Rogue/Sent is an absolute must.

BTW, what tricks/combos do you use with Rogue/Cable/Sent Proj.? Here's mine:

When in the corner C.LK, (call Sent) C.MP, (Sent hits), J.LK, J.MP, J.HP, Power Drain, *opponent is thrown in corner* (QUICKLY!!!) C.LK(Juggles), C.FP, AC into INF into AC into Power Drain.:evil: This combo OTGs on Sent and other heavy characters cuz he falls too fast. Most players are caught off guard anyways so it worx!!!:D :) :cool:

[golba666]

Originally posted by white shadow
Darn, and I though I was the only one that used Rogue/Cable Sent (Proj.).:mad: :p


Here's another Rogue trick I use, after killing a character you can dash behind the incoming character and use power drain. Or with my team Power Drain call Sent Proj. S.FP, RP hits GNS for mucho damage!!! :D

Here's my Rogue teams: Rogue/Sent/Cable-Cyke-Psy-Cammy-Tron, Rogue/IM/Sent,.

I used to use Rogue/Sent/Capcom but I suck with Capcom on point, I prefer Cammy more. :p

For me Rogue/Sent is an absolute must.

BTW, what tricks/combos do you use with Rogue/Cable/Sent Proj.? Here's mine:

When in the corner C.LK, (call Sent) C.MP, (Sent hits), J.LK, J.MP, J.HP, Power Drain, *opponent is thrown in corner* (QUICKLY!!!) C.LK(Juggles), C.FP, AC into INF into AC into Power Drain.:evil: This combo OTGs on Sent and other heavy characters cuz he falls too fast. Most players are caught off guard anyways so it worx!!!:D :) :cool:
i dont use proj assist for sent bro... The ground helps rush down but it never hurts to experiment.
I'm not understanding that last combo u wrote but maybe its cause im tired. After the hp do they bounce up into the kiss? And also wut do u mean by this...AC into INF into AC into Power Drain????
Although i got great news ive confirmed that in the combo i wrote above u can do all that crazy crap i theorized would work. After ur opponent hits the drones they bounce up .. give them lp lk kiss then if they land in the corner u can lk into ac of choice or hp call sent ground assist GNS. TOOOOO fucking good. I should mention ive only done it on sentinal so far, i just dont got the time to fuck around with it on other chars right now.. but tommoro night im free and i think im dedicating it to rogue ( :

*Edit* I kno i said i didnt have time to test this shit tonight but i couldnt resist:p
Not only does the combo i stated work on all characters but if the character isnt heavy (Ie. Sentinal) u can dash mid screen still in time to hit fp call sent ground GNS.

Rogue.. have my baby

[white shadow]

Originally posted by golba666

i dont use proj assist for sent bro... The ground helps rush down but it never hurts to experiment.
I'm not understanding that last combo u wrote but maybe its cause im tired. After the hp do they bounce up into the kiss? And also wut do u mean by this...AC into INF into AC into Power Drain????
Although i got great news ive confirmed that in the combo i wrote above u can do all that crazy crap i theorized would work. After ur opponent hits the drones they bounce up .. give them lp lk kiss then if they land in the corner u can lk into ac of choice or hp call sent ground assist GNS. TOOOOO fucking good. I should mention ive only done it on sentinal so far, i just dont got the time to fuck around with it on other chars right now.. but tommoro night im free and i think im dedicating it to rogue ( :

*Edit* I kno i said i didnt have time to test this shit tonight but i couldnt resist:p
Not only does the combo i stated work on all characters but if the character isnt heavy (Ie. Sentinal) u can dash mid screen still in time to hit fp call sent ground GNS.

Rogue.. have my baby

:D I was reffering to Vegita X's post on the first page. My Bad.:p And the FP causes your opponent to bounce which sets up the kiss.

BTW, the INF is: (Corner Only) C.LK, C.FP, Majic Series, J.RK, C.LK, S.LP, S.LK till you feel they might Dizzy, Launch into Power Drain AC. I suck at it now cuz I need to practice after 2 months of CVS2.:p


Oh and on a flying stomping Sent you can do, quick (Normal Jump) J.LK (Call Sent Proj.) J.FP, (RP Hits), J.LK, J.MP, J.HP, Power Drain. Does Chunks of damage to Sent!!!:evil:

Another team I'm experimenting with is Rogue/Sent Proj/ Tron. Cuz with tron you can do J.HP, C.LK, S.MP (Call Sent Proj) Drill XX Lunch Rush anywhere on screen!!!:D

EDIT: Oh snap Golba666 I finally get the combo your doing, I've done that combo also by accident but didn't put it to as good use as you have.

Another thing I've found out is to Guard Cancel with Rogue into GNS when Sent does HSF but the timing is waaaaay too hard for me. If you ever try it by the time the super starts the drones will be covering Rogue's sprite and you will plow through the second ones and hit Sent. That's how extreme the timing is!!!
:(

[golba666]

Originally posted by white shadow


:D I was reffering to Vegita X's post on the first page. My Bad.:p And the FP causes your opponent to bounce which sets up the kiss.

BTW, the INF is: (Corner Only) C.LK, C.FP, Majic Series, J.RK, C.LK, S.LP, S.LK till you feel they might Dizzy, Launch into Power Drain AC. I suck at it now cuz I need to practice after 2 months of CVS2.:p


Oh and on a flying stomping Sent you can do, quick (Normal Jump) J.LK (Call Sent Proj.) J.FP, (RP Hits), J.LK, J.MP, J.HP, Power Drain. Does Chunks of damage to Sent!!!:evil:

Another team I'm experimenting with is Rogue/Sent Proj/ Tron. Cuz with tron you can do J.HP, C.LK, S.MP (Call Sent Proj) Drill XX Lunch Rush anywhere on screen!!!:D

EDIT: Oh snap Golba666 I finally get the combo your doing, I've done that combo also by accident but didn't put it to as good use as you have.

Another thing I've found out is to Guard Cancel with Rogue into GNS when Sent does HSF but the timing is waaaaay too hard for me. If you ever try it by the time the super starts the drones will be covering Rogue's sprite and you will plow through the second ones and hit Sent. That's how extreme the timing is!!!
:(
i talked to drumliner joe today about the inf... it kinda sounds impractical.. how many reps can u get for it?
the guard cancel.... Do u mean u push block then GNS. I pull it off all the time but u gotta be close to ur opponent..

White Shadow ur name sounds familiar.. were u the dude i heard alot about to take out Wong.. lol im probably wrong but i remember ppl saying that. Maybe it was white knight.. i dunno:p

[golba666]

i figure we should start getting into GNS. This super is just fuckin deadly, its quick, it hurts, and first few frames r invincible. Its also a great way to rush down Ie. cable air hyper viper: u GNS under the beam and to the other side of cable. Then GNS as cable falls from his super.

Im gonna name some moves GNS goes through and just good times to GNS, where it picks up lag etc etc... its off the top of my head so im probably gonna miss alot.
Striders orbs: Shell go right through but about half way through the super rogue will get hit with an orb.. maybe if u have super armor??:)

Blocked Ground hyper viper: ull have enough time to pick this lag up.

Blocked Cable ground beam: The closer u are the better.

Halistorm or HOD: On instant they super do GNS. If the tip of rogues head hits the tip of storm or bh foot the super works.

Sent wiffs a ground rocket punch or laser: GNS

Sent hk and lk drones: on instant GNS

MY FAVORITE:evil: Tri Jump: if ur opponent tri jumps and is just in range to hit u GNS, rogue gets priority.

Storms wind proj: U gotta do GNS during those invinciple frames and ur in.

Doom proj: yep right through it, gotta be close
Ill post more later

[white shadow]

No man I'm not White Knight.:p The inf is not impractical for me cuz I usually force people into the corner all the time pressuring them.

Here's all the supers I've gone through with GNS:D : Tempest, Magnetic Shockwave, GNS:lol:, HSF, Thanos' Power/Soul/Space/Reality, starting up Hailstorm, Up close Photon Array on ground, Captain Storm, Hyper Dashing Elbow, Electric Cage, Kochou Kagure, Psy Thrust and many more.

Specials: Cap'n Corridor, Cap'n Fire, Genade, Cable's S./J.FP which is basically a no chip special, Smart Bombs, Hadouken, passes throw Ken's Shoryuken, Rocket Punch, Drones.


Another tidbit: Rogue can do massive damage to an assist by doing Launch, J.FP, J.D.RK or Launch, J.FP, J.FP, C.FP into the same thing if your opponent is retarded or just got KOed and his assist is left out.

Another combo with Rogue on a stomping Sent is J.LK, (call Sent), J.MP, J.HP *Sent Ground hits*, J.LK, J.MP, J.HP, Power Drain!!!:evil:

[golba666]

Originally posted by white shadow
No man I'm not White Knight.:p The inf is not impractical for me cuz I usually force people into the corner all the time pressuring them.

Here's all the supers I've gone through with GNS:D : Tempest, Magnetic Shockwave, GNS:lol:, HSF, Thanos' Power/Soul/Space/Reality, starting up Hailstorm, Up close Photon Array on ground, Captain Storm, Hyper Dashing Elbow, Electric Cage, Kochou Kagure, Psy Thrust and many more.

Specials: Cap'n Corridor, Cap'n Fire, Genade, Cable's S./J.FP which is basically a no chip special, Smart Bombs, Hadouken, passes throw Ken's Shoryuken, Rocket Punch, Drones.


Another tidbit: Rogue can do massive damage to an assist by doing Launch, J.FP, J.D.RK or Launch, J.FP, J.FP, C.FP into the same thing if your opponent is retarded or just got KOed and his assist is left out.

Another combo with Rogue on a stomping Sent is J.LK, (call Sent), J.MP, J.HP *Sent Ground hits*, J.LK, J.MP, J.HP, Power Drain!!!:evil:
im thinking the first few frames of GNS is invinciple no matter wut.. the reason it wont go through something like tiger knee is cause its only like 2 frames.
As from going through shockwave.. i think when u did that u might have called an assist and it fucked mags super up. But then again maybe it was done during those first few frames of GNS.
When u say u went through GNS with GNS do u mean the rogues passed each other???? Or she did GNS first then u supered her when her GNS was finishing.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by golba666

im thinking the first few frames of GNS is invinciple no matter wut.. the reason it wont go through something like tiger knee is cause its only like 2 frames.
As from going through shockwave.. i think when u did that u might have called an assist and it fucked mags super up. But then again maybe it was done during those first few frames of GNS.
When u say u went through GNS with GNS do u mean the rogues passed each other???? Or she did GNS first then u supered her when her GNS was finishing. I did GNS the same time the opponent did GNS up close and we passed through each other.:lol:

And no I didn't use an assist to go through shockwave it was a 1 on 2 match I recall when that happened.

The invincibility properties of GNS are very tricky so let me explain how it works.
GNS only has true invincibility at a Cable's character length, after that it turns to Super high priority then high priority then finally the priority of like Cykes Roundhouse.

When AHVB starts up the beam becomes a constant stream of super high priority which totally negates GNS. So even though GNS appears to appear to be invincible for 15% of the screen it is really just a character length then super high priority.

But don't get me wrong that super high priority destroys any physical moves or physical projectiles (Sent's drones) adn even Doom's Electric Cage!!!
:)

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by golba666

yes yes yes capcom assist/rogue ac = too good.

My tourney team is usually scrub but Rogue(throw)/sent(ground)/commando(aaa) is my number 2 choice.

I came up with a new rogue/sent(ground) combo today.. i appologize if its allready mentioned.. c.lp c.lp c.lk c.fp call sent.. *slowly* lp lk fp (opponent hits sent assist and bounces up) Hp throw or FP. i imagine u could even do lp lk kiss and if in the corner u could probably otg with lk then s.fp GNS frame cancel to sent or wutever.. lots of possibilities im thinking. Its some flashy crap and it hurts.

VegitaX: lets see that combo vid.. ppl giving u props for the best rogue so i wanna see for myself.

i wish i coulda made ecc8.. an all rogue team would have been great stuff.. maybe next year we can plot.



I kinda made a combo vid of her but don't know how to put it on the computer yet:( It has rogue what just about every assits on the game, plus her with speed up and using her teleport with and without speed up. her inifinity on sentinel and other crazy stuff. When I figure out how to put it on line I will let everyone know.


Rogue4life

[DrumlinerJoe]

Hey Vegita, great new AV.

And I think I'm gonna start trying out Rogue/Storm/Capcom and see what kinda results I can get with that. And if I ever get some sticks for my DC I wanna learn Sent and BH to use with her.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by vegita-x




I kinda made a combo vid of her but don't know how to put it on the computer yet:( It has rogue what just about every assits on the game, plus her with speed up and using her teleport with and without speed up. her inifinity on sentinel and other crazy stuff. When I figure out how to put it on line I will let everyone know.


Rogue4life

Cool!!!:D BTW have you ever fought VDO? And did you use Sent Proj. in one of your Rogue combos in your vids?:p EDIT: How easy is the INF on Sent for you now cuz it's still hard for me.:mad:

BTW they had this Rogue combo vid in Comboadictos.com and they did some crazy combos like: (in corner) S.LP, S.LK, S.MP, S.MK (dash) S.LP, S.LK, S.MP, S.MK, (dash), S.LP, S.LK, S.MP, S.MK, Repeating Punches XX GNS!!! :eek: :bluu: I have no clue how they did that!!!:confused:

[Tanion]

It's because she has speed up. I was like... WTF?! She can do that?! I tried it out with no speed up to no avail but I managed to get a couple of reps in with speed up. Timing is hard as hell.

[golba666]

that speed up inf on comboaddicts... meh
i prefer to just use the lk tap foward lk tap foward lp mp lp mp etc etc.. that way i wont fuck it up.
Now vegita-x.....

i want that combo vid.... teleport without speed up... wow
i cant even get it to werk with speed up:lame:
help me out

[ROC]

Originally posted by vegita-x





Say could u make me an avatar like that please? or something like that. Man I would pay money.


RST4life

I made one for you but its gonna cost ya...

Ill PM it to you later today after I correct a spelling mistake.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by golba666
that speed up inf on comboaddicts... meh
i prefer to just use the lk tap foward lk tap foward lp mp lp mp etc etc.. that way i wont fuck it up.
Now vegita-x.....

i want that combo vid.... teleport without speed up... wow
i cant even get it to werk with speed up:lame:
help me out

Wow it's pretty easy for me and it also depends on what character you do it on (easy on Cammy or Psylocke w/o Speed Up). Plus I kinda hate it cuz when I do it by accident it can get annoying.:mad:

[golba666]

Originally posted by white shadow


Wow it's pretty easy for me and it also depends on what character you do it on (easy on Cammy or Psylocke w/o Speed Up). Plus I kinda hate it cuz when I do it by accident it can get annoying.:mad:
how do u do it?

[gbursine]

c.lp, c.lp,s.lk.

the standing kick seems to go through the character from the momentum of the c.mp

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by white shadow


Cool!!!:D BTW have you ever fought VDO? And did you use Sent Proj. in one of your Rogue combos in your vids?:p EDIT: How easy is the INF on Sent for you now cuz it's still hard for me.:mad:

BTW they had this Rogue combo vid in Comboadictos.com and they did some crazy combos like: (in corner) S.LP, S.LK, S.MP, S.MK (dash) S.LP, S.LK, S.MP, S.MK, (dash), S.LP, S.LK, S.MP, S.MK, Repeating Punches XX GNS!!! :eek: :bluu: I have no clue how they did that!!!:confused:



have I fought VDO yeah. He's pretty good but the first time we played I probably caught him off gaurd because I OCV'd him with just rogue. At the time I didn't know that was vdo. We only played 3 times and then when I had a 35 win streak he stop playing because of to many sentinel players toooo funny.:lol: He's good but need to work on his blocking skills...But on a side note he is hella cool and wouldn't mind playing him again. I played everyone there at EVo2k3 that playes with rogue...John P from TX......Emma/Rogue/cable/magneto... and vdo. O yeah I finally lost to a storm/sentinel/cable player.:lame:
And I've seen that vid, was doing that 2 years ago.
also it does include sentinel proj assist in my vid. also 100% combos that you can not get out of. Mostly Resets though.



Rogue4life

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by ROC


I made one for you but its gonna cost ya...

Ill PM it to you later today after I correct a spelling mistake.



Thanks Roc man I need some avatars because the disk with my avatars on it was lost so now I only have one:( If u could make it for me thanks I will send u 5 or even 10$ depending on how good the avatar is. I send it threw western union or something.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by vegita-x




have I fought VDO yeah. He's pretty good but the first time we played I probably caught him off gaurd because I OCV'd him with just rogue. At the time I didn't know that was vdo. We only played 3 times and then when I had a 35 win streak he stop playing because of to many sentinel players toooo funny.:lol: He's good but need to work on his blocking skills...But on a side note he is hella cool and wouldn't mind playing him again. I played everyone there at EVo2k3 that playes with rogue...John P from TX......Emma/Rogue/cable/magneto... and vdo. O yeah I finally lost to a storm/sentinel/cable player.:lame:
And I've seen that vid, was doing that 2 years ago.
also it does include sentinel proj assist in my vid. also 100% combos that you can not get out of. Mostly Resets though.



Rogue4life

Yeah I noticed that VDO is too rushdown oriented but when he hits you it hurts! At least from the match vids I saw.

BTW are the 100% Rogue combos practical!!! :eek: Please tell me them!!!:(

[golba666]

Originally posted by gbursine
c.lp, c.lp,s.lk.

the standing kick seems to go through the character from the momentum of the c.mp
i dont understand how thats a teliport... i do it all the tiem and i dont teliport..
help

[gbursine]

Originally posted by golba666

i dont understand how thats a teliport... i do it all the tiem and i dont teliport..
help

just try it w/ speed up... make sure u cancil the mp fast to mk.

I didn't think much of it either till I tried it... I think the teleport has to do with the size of the pixels of w/e you're going through, which is why it works on storm w/out speedup(i think..).

[white shadow]

Originally posted by gbursine


just try it w/ speed up... make sure u cancil the mp fast to mk.

I didn't think much of it either till I tried it... I think the teleport has to do with the size of the pixels of w/e you're going through, which is why it works on storm w/out speedup(i think..).

You are correct. That's why I told him to try it on Cammy or Psylocke.

[ROC]

Originally posted by vegita-x




Thanks Roc man I need some avatars because the disk with my avatars on it was lost so now I only have one:( If u could make it for me thanks I will send u 5 or even 10$ depending on how good the avatar is. I send it threw western union or something.

HAHAHA I was only messin with you man its free

Any ways my computer is messed up for some reason so ill remake it, I just need DLJ to resend me the pic with the all sentinels flying again so that i can redo it.

Also im 100% sure im going to ecc so we should team up.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by ROC


HAHAHA I was only messin with you man its free

Any ways my computer is messed up for some reason so ill remake it, I just need DLJ to resend me the pic with the all sentinels flying again so that i can redo it.

Also im 100% sure im going to ecc so we should team up.

Dang you know I can remember sending one with Rogue standing on a busted up Sent, but can't remember one with a bunch of Sents on it. hmm...lemme look through my discs again.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by DrumlinerJoe


Dang you know I can remember sending one with Rogue standing on a busted up Sent, but can't remember one with a bunch of Sents on it. hmm...lemme look through my discs again.

HEY!!! Rogue and Sent are like baest friends!!!:mad: :lol:

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by white shadow


HEY!!! Rogue and Sent are like baest friends!!!:mad: :lol:

Eh, I'd go further to say Doom is a better friend and Tron and Rogue are practically lesbian lovers.

[Tanion]

Cyke is also a good friend of Rogue! Fuck Psylocke! She can't handle shit! =D Oh i was fucking around with Rogue and Zangief with throw assist and came up with a wacky reset.

opponent in corner... s.lp, s.lk, Call Gief, s.mp, Zangief hits... dash then c.fp, magic series into Power Drains [puts them back into the corner] c.lk, Call Gief, c.mk, Gief hits... magic series into power drain [puts them back into the corner] Repeat.

Of course this may not work in serious play... but it's fun stuff.. x_X;

[golba666]

wow the teliport does work without speed up.. holy crap
wuts everyone typically do after the teliport???
PS commando and rogue r liek friends with benefits

[DrumlinerJoe]

Most of the time I'll repeat the inf a few times (with speed up) then reset again. Then I'll just go with clk cmp clk chk, cfp (OTG), chk xx into GNS. Good damage.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by golba666
wow the teliport does work without speed up.. holy crap
wuts everyone typically do after the teleport???
PS commando and rogue r liek friends with benefits

That's why I said Sent is Rogue's best friend. Call Sent Ground do the c.lk, c.mp, s.mk chain and you'll cross them up while Sent's drones hit your opponent on the other side!!! :evil:

It seem kinda hard to set up stuff with Cyke (kinda slow), Cammy does a waaay better job IMO.

[vegita-x]

Say Roc are anyelse. I'm planning on having a tourny on 11/8/03 and some of the matches will be recorded...was wondering if anyone knows of a site where I can host it?

O yeah Roc if u can make me that avatar thanks a lot. and most likly I will be going to ecc and just about every other tourny thats coming up sents me and my girlfriend broke up. So mvc2 has taken over me again......:o :o :o :o Other year of mvc2 here we go again.

O yeah fuck sentinel,,, he can eat rogue pussy and die for all I care........wait a minute that's my job:D


Rogue4life

[ROC]

Originally posted by vegita-x
Say Roc are anyelse. I'm planning on having a tourny on 11/8/03 and some of the matches will be recorded...was wondering if anyone knows of a site where I can host it?

O yeah Roc if u can make me that avatar thanks a lot. and most likly I will be going to ecc and just about every other tourny thats coming up sents me and my girlfriend broke up. So mvc2 has taken over me again......:o :o :o :o Other year of mvc2 here we go again.

O yeah fuck sentinel,,, he can eat rogue pussy and die for all I care........wait a minute that's my job:D


Rogue4life

I'll get back to you on the hosting but think i know where you could host them.

Ecc will be the 1st time I travel for a tournament, I wanna see how I do and the av is coming along i just have to find that sentinel picture!

EDIT: I found the pictures I need now I just have to find the font I used or use a different font. The av will be done by tomorrow.

[golba666]

whens ecc?

[golba666]

vegitax wheres that combo vid?

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by golba666
vegitax wheres that combo vid?






say chill I'm working on it. I will probablly have in real soon maybe after our tourny on the 11/8/03. Say roc I need that Avatar.

[ROC]

Originally posted by vegita-x
say chill I'm working on it. I will probablly have in real soon maybe after our tourny on the 11/8/03. Say roc I need that Avatar.

Check Your PM's

[DrumlinerJoe]

Yo Vegita, you goin't to the regionals in Houston next week, I think it is?

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by ROC


Check Your PM's



Say roc the avatar didn't go threw. Could u send me another one.
Where the avatar is there is a box with an X in it no picture?





And no drumlinerjoe I won't be going to texas for one reason I have a wedding to go to. and another is that the person who is driving doesn't like me because I do not play 3rd strike:lame: AKA(ricky).

[DrumlinerJoe]

Damn shame man. I might go and try to rep Rogue best I can. Did okay last tourney, caught a runaway Storm and gave her a beatdown pretty cool.

[ROC]

Vegita try this:
http://www.geocities.com/sjd_284/veg.gif
http://www.geocities.com/sjd_284/veglow.gif

You have to paste the links into your IE for some reason.

[white shadow]

Yes the 100th reply, I did it!!!:D :rolleyes:


Oh bTW if you guys didn't already know you can combo into GNS without the aid of Repeating Punches off any medium attack.

[Magnetic Hail]

Damn beat me to it :(

[gbursine]

Originally posted by white shadow
Yes the 100th reply, I did it!!!:D :rolleyes:


Oh bTW if you guys didn't already know you can combo into GNS without the aid of Repeating Punches off any medium attack.


oye... half the time I'll do it w/out the punches instead.... oftentimes when I cancel the punches, the other guy'll be outa hitstun and be able to block.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by gbursine



oye... half the time I'll do it w/out the punches instead.... oftentimes when I cancel the punches, the other guy'll be outa hitstun and be able to block.

Trust me the cancelling from the Repeating Punches is much better in damage and has a longer hit stun than her mediums. I just was stating that you can combo from her mediums just so that people know.

Oh awesome AV Gbursine!!!:cool:

[golba666]

Originally posted by white shadow
Yes the 100th reply, I did it!!!:D :rolleyes:


Oh bTW if you guys didn't already know you can combo into GNS without the aid of Repeating Punches off any medium attack.
no poop lol

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by gbursine



oye... half the time I'll do it w/out the punches instead.... oftentimes when I cancel the punches, the other guy'll be outa hitstun and be able to block. .

Yeah I had trouble canceling the first few times I tried it. The trick is you can't randomly cancel during the repeating punches. You gotta make sure it's after the 3rd of fourth hit and they're still in hit stun.

[ROC]

c.RH xx sj xx AD xx sj.D+RH, land, GNS.

Its time we started cutting out mp's/mk's and repeating punches alltogther:lol:

[golba666]

Originally posted by ROC
c.RH xx sj xx AD xx sj.D+RH, land, GNS.

Its time we started cutting out mp's/mk's and repeating punches alltogther:lol:
without speed up... my god

[ROC]

Originally posted by golba666

without speed up... my god

Word

Super Jump cancel the c.RH when you hear her say "yah" and you'll be fine.

I wouldnt actually use this all the time for comboing GNS but because of the range of the c.RH you can surprise people by dashing in with c.RH kinda like Storm with her c.RH launcher.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by ROC


Word

Super Jump cancel the c.RH when you hear her say "yah" and you'll be fine.

I wouldnt actually use this all the time for comboing GNS but because of the range of the c.RH you can surprise people by dashing in with c.RH kinda like Storm with her c.RH launcher.

This worked once on my opponent he rolled the next time so Repeating Punches 4 LIFE!!!:D

[vegita-x]

Say roc I can't really make out rogue face u think u could change it a bit. Clean it up for me thanks.




Rogue4life





O yeah drulimer joe I might be coming to texas after all:D

[ROC]

Originally posted by vegita-x
Say roc I can't really make out rogue face u think u could change it a bit. Clean it up for me thanks.

Thats the whole point, her face is supposed to be in the shadows from the light of sent's boosters.

Ok tell me what you want the av to look like and I'll try and make it.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by vegita-x

O yeah drulimer joe I might be coming to texas after all:D

Damnit! I, more than likely, won't be making it after all. Damn it all to hell!

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by ROC


Thats the whole point, her face is supposed to be in the shadows from the light of sent's boosters.

Ok tell me what you want the av to look like and I'll try and make it.



its find just clear her face up a little bit thats all. you can have it in the shadows just clean it up for me. The avatar is really tight I just like looking at her face.



Drumiler joe I'm just going to be in the team tourny won't beable to go sunday because of work:(
Say roc I will try to represent rogue out there for everyone. O yeah let me know when u all going to have the next big tourny out there if it's more then 30 people I'll come.



Rogue4life

[DrumlinerJoe]

Give 'em hell Vegita. And there's always Showdown. I saw you bitchslapping everyone at this past one in March and was floored. Badass stuff man. Peace.

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by DrumlinerJoe
Give 'em hell Vegita. And there's always Showdown. I saw you bitchslapping everyone at this past one in March and was floored. Badass stuff man. Peace.



Say joe I didn't go after all. car was acting up:(



Roc r u still working on that avatar?

[Crono_Mashitoka]

Sup, Vegita? Say, is there any chance of you coming down to G-Ville, FL again anytime soon? I want to see some more of your beastly Rogue in action. I just started learning her recently and was wondering what is a good team to start using with her on it.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by Crono_Mashitoka
Sup, Vegita? Say, is there any chance of you coming down to G-Ville, FL again anytime soon? I want to see some more of your beastly Rogue in action. I just started learning her recently and was wondering what is a good team to start using with her on it.

Man I wish he'd come down to Ft.Lauderdale so I can see how my Rogue stands up to his beastly Rogue.:p Been using her for 3 years now so it will be cool to see another fellow Rogue user. :D

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by Crono_Mashitoka
Sup, Vegita? Say, is there any chance of you coming down to G-Ville, FL again anytime soon? I want to see some more of your beastly Rogue in action. I just started learning her recently and was wondering what is a good team to start using with her on it.



Say just let me know when is the next tourny and I will try to come. I wouldn''t mind playing mixup again. I'm trying to go to the UCLA tourny in Cali on Dec, 13. so if it after or even before then give me a holla. I really want to play against soomighty and combofiend.

Everyone here plays sentinel and when I mean everyone I mean everyone. even the local scrubs. I think I'm the only left that doesn't use that cheap niggaa:( :(

O yeah Crono_Mashitoka try using Rogue/magneto/Storm AKA team Triangle offense. Rush down city:evil: I've been using this team for the past 2 months now and it is really good. The only thing u have the to play real smart because like to mash on assits all day so whatch out.


Rogue4life

[Crono_Mashitoka]

Originally posted by vegita-x




Say just let me know when is the next tourny and I will try to come. I wouldn''t mind playing mixup again. I'm trying to go to the UCLA tourny in Cali on Dec, 13. so if it after or even before then give me a holla. I really want to play against soomighty and combofiend.

Everyone here plays sentinel and when I mean everyone I mean everyone. even the local scrubs. I think I'm the only left that doesn't use that cheap niggaa:( :(

O yeah Crono_Mashitoka try using Rogue/magneto/Storm AKA team Triangle offense. Rush down city:evil: I've been using this team for the past 2 months now and it is really good. The only thing u have the to play real smart because like to mash on assits all day so whatch out.


Rogue4life

Thanks for the advice. I'll definitely have to try that out and I'll also keep you posted on any upcoming tournaments. Sad thing is everyone here is starting to use Sentinel too. :lol:

But yeah, I'll keep you posted. Take care and good luck at the West Coast tourney.:D

[Magnetic Hail]

I have mastered her speed up semi-infinite :evil: now only if I could figure out how to do mad tri jumps like the cpu :(

New angel team Rogue Sakura Cammy =)

[white shadow]

I'm currently practicing with Rogue/IM/Sent. Since I can use Rogue better than Magz.:p

[shinoken]

Originally posted by ROC
c.RH xx sj xx AD xx sj.D+RH, land, GNS.

Its time we started cutting out mp's/mk's and repeating punches alltogther:lol:

I like this combo. In XmenVS SF you could do d+hk, c.lk, c.hk XX sj.d+hk, c.mp ... and finish with whatever you like. I usually just luanch and procede to murder-death-kill-homocide:evil: I miss the days when you could steal opponents moves, then use them to kill them(shun goku satsu or infinite with Juggernaut's move.)

[white shadow]

Oh I have a combo for you peeps with Rogue/Sent/Cammy or Capcom.

S.LP, S.LK, S.MP, S.MK, Repeating Punches XX GNS (wait till Rogue starts to kiss) DHC into HSF, *all the drones will miss :(* Fly and call Cammy AA , J.LK, J.FP, FP Rocket Punches *Cammy hits*

Yeah kinda unoriginal in concept but still gets the job done. BTW how can Magz/Rogue (Throw) work when you can't combo into the assist and no one is foolish enough to stand and be reset by the assist?:confused: :bluu:

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by white shadow
Oh I have a combo for you peeps with Rogue/Sent/Cammy or Capcom.

BTW how can Magz/Rogue (Throw) work when you can't combo into the assist and no one is foolish enough to stand and be reset by the assist?:confused: :bluu:




yeah so so true:( play anti air fuck kiss type.:D

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by Magnetic Hail
I have mastered her speed up semi-infinite :evil: now only if I could figure out how to do mad tri jumps like the cpu :(

New angel team Rogue Sakura Cammy =)



Nice
Best low teir team Rogue/Phylock/woleriane:evil:

[white shadow]

No I still use Rogue throw, just not with Magz. Her AA has low prority and I can't seem to find any good combinations with her AA and Sent/Cable. Care to post any and I might reconsider?!!!:evil:

Calling Rogue throw and SJ/Flying works too well with me an also setups many combos well so I've had no complaints. :cool:

[shinoken]

Originally posted by Magnetic Hail
now only if I could figure out how to do mad tri jumps like the cpu :(

To master her tri-jump (d+hk madness) All you gotta remember is that you can cancel anything into a super jump. So I do what the CPU does: cancel ground attacks into her tri-jump and throw in some random c.lk in case they block high. Also throw in random air dashes. This will cause them to block in the wrong direction( super jump XX air dash XX d+hk) If you do this right, you will randomly switch from side to side and if you're fast enough, you will confuse them enough to block in the wrong direction. :evil: Now go make them think they're fighting the CPU!

[white shadow]

Yep that was the first think I learned with Rogue. Also remember to mix it up, because she doesn't have the tri-jumping variants like Magz does hit high and low at different intervals.:evil:

[vegita-x]

Anyone going to the Chorlette NC, tourny on 1/24/03?

[Binarystar]

Originally posted by Magnetic Hail
now only if I could figure out how to do mad tri jumps like the cpu :(

I'm pretty sure someone mentioned it in the thread but

Do reverse tiger knee + PP then d.rh

Think that should work.

Originally posted by white shadow
BTW how can Magz/Rogue (Throw) work when you can't combo into the assist and no one is foolish enough to stand and be reset by the assist?:confused: :bluu:

Magz+Throw assist is pretty damn good. Edma has that shit on lock. I don't use her but im sure..launch sj.rh ad df short short land call the her, dash on other side would work. Actually dont listen to me I have no clue. :confused: But that her best assist her other ones are pretty crummy.

[Mixup]

Mag, launch, sj.fk, ad df lk,lk land s.fk+rogueXXcancel first hit of fk into mag's forcefield. Stupid unmashable free reset:lol:

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by vegita-x
Anyone going to the Chorlette NC, tourny on 1/24/03?

Nah, only major tourney would be Showdown. I swear to do better this coming year than last.

[Glen1Rice]

Originally posted by vegita-x
Anyone going to the Charlotte NC, tourney on 1/24/04?

I was thinking about going to this but Ohayocon is the same weekend so I don't know. If you are going I'll try a little harder to go. I played a few guys that seen you play and they told me how good your Rogue is so I got to check it out.

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by Mixup
Mag, launch, sj.fk, ad df lk,lk land s.fk+rogueXXcancel first hit of fk into mag's forcefield. Stupid unmashable free reset:lol:






ya crazy mike:lol:


Rogue>then magneto

I have one question. why don't rogue get speed up from magneto when he is the fastes on the game this has been on my mind for about 3 years. If only she would get speed up from him:(

[white shadow]

Originally posted by vegita-x







ya crazy mike:lol:


Rogue>then magneto

I have one question. why don't rogue get speed up from magneto when he is the fastes on the game this has been on my mind for about 3 years. If only she would get speed up from him:(

Been thinking the same thing.:confused: My guess is that Capcom didn't really program Magneto to be a speed demon (like Cammy) he just ended up that way through shoddy programming.:lol:

[UnpReDiktaBLe]

rogue owns,... just add ne member from triple c and u win easy... i beat pat for free !!1 jk... sayin that makes me feel better :lol: u better come to htown for the showdown... imma get pissed wen i set the brackets up for u and me to fight and u dont come...:mad: ..later

oh and ever notice after u get the mags defense up and he possibly hits u with his infinite... it takes of SHIT!!! haha yea ... mayb thats better than speed up// cuz got dammit speed up gets annoying except wen i keep doing standing short on repeat... haha

[white shadow]

Rogue does alot of damage with minimal effort too.:cool:

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by UnpReDiktaBLe
rogue owns,... just add ne member from triple c and u win easy... i beat pat for free !!1 jk... sayin that makes me feel better :lol: u better come to htown for the showdown... imma get pissed wen i set the brackets up for u and me to fight and u dont come...:mad: ..later

oh and ever notice after u get the mags defense up and he possibly hits u with his infinite... it takes of SHIT!!! haha yea ... mayb thats better than speed up// cuz got dammit speed up gets annoying except wen i keep doing standing short on repeat... haha



Say john I will be at showdown so just chill. And I wouldn't set the brackets up so that me and u can play that's just a friendly advice. Say john who ru going to use in the team tournment? Cable/Rogue/Cap or Cable/Cyc/Cap? u don't have to use rogue if u don't want to.

O yeah! Do u have a third member on the team?
And don't worry about Rasshan I know how to beat him.

Huh would be nice to have a third member that's good that plays with rogue:(



Vegita-x/ Rogue/Storm/Tron
John p/ Rogue/Cable/Cap
??????? Rogue/????/????


Rogue that fuckin shit:evil:

[white shadow]

WOOT!!! Rogue/IM/Sent is that ish!!!:cool:

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by white shadow
WOOT!!! Rogue/IM/Sent is that ish!!!:cool:


Nice very nice team if I didn't hate sentinel so much I would probably use that team. The possibility's are end less with that team.


Are there anyone coming to TS4 in march?

I need another rogue player who his good for the team tourney on friday. And please no one who like just started using her in like the past couple of weeks. It really depresses me when I see a rogue player who just mash on dive kick:(

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by vegita-x



Are there anyone coming to

I'll be there and so will LS. I gotta say my skills aren't as cool and I really won't have time to get them better. Drumline started up and tax season is really busy in Feburary. I'll give it a shot though.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by vegita-x



Nice very nice team if I didn't hate sentinel so much I would probably use that team. The possibility's are end less with that team.


Are there anyone coming to TS4 in march?

I need another rogue player who his good for the team tourney on friday. And please no one who like just started using her in like the past couple of weeks. It really depresses me when I see a rogue player who just mash on dive kick:(

I'm a Rogue Veteran (4 years and still going string :cool: ) unfortunately I cannot make it. I hear you visit S. FL on occasion and I'd love to see the best Rogue player in action and also see how I'd fair against him. ;) :p Dive Kick is only 10% of her rushdown tactix IM:o.

Man I wish i could travel like you guys.:(

[ImPerfectCell]

Originally posted by white shadow


I'm a Rogue Veteran (4 years and still going string :cool: ) unfortunately I cannot make it. I hear you visit S. FL on occasion and I'd love to see the best Rogue player in action and also see how I'd fair against him. ;) :p Dive Kick is only 10% of her rushdown tactix IM:o.

Man I wish i could travel like you guys.:(

Who is the best rogue player and what kind of techniques does he use? I never seen anyone play wit Rogue, so most of the techniques I use, I get from watching the CPU rushing and alot of shit, I just make up with her. I wanna see some vids of her.
Yeah, that d.hk really is a small part of Rogue rushing down. And anyone who thinks thats all u gotta do is gonna get punished by commando's assist alot. Her best rushing asset is that air dash + lk, lk, c.lk crossup. A high and low attack in one combo. Its not likely you will find someone who will block it right.

[white shadow]

The most renowned Rogue players are Vegita-X and VDO. Vegita-x is slightly above VDO IMO because he seems to play with more discretion while VDO rush the hell out of you without fear.:evil:

Here's my rushdown techniques:

- First I do C.LK, C.MP (A golden move since even when they pushblock it hits them, a godsend and a character defining move:cool: ) *call Sent Ground* then SJ cancel into J.RK (not dive kick, this is prevent them from jumping out) XX LP R