Rogue rushdown techniques

[MiXuP2.1]

I've been experimenting with rogue(after playing pats rogue you sorta think she doesn't suck:lol: ) and i wonder why not use

Sj(that way you will auto turn around for airdash) airdash fp, neutral fk(this seems to be the only attack that will come out this low to the ground, keep in mind you cancel into your airdash really really fast)

This is pretty similar to what you see magneto doing vs sentinel i'd just like to discuss pro's/con's

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by MiXuP2.1
I've been experimenting with rogue(after playing pats rogue you sorta think she doesn't suck:lol: ) and i wonder why not use

Sj(that way you will auto turn around for airdash) airdash fp, neutral fk(this seems to be the only attack that will come out this low to the ground, keep in mind you cancel into your airdash really really fast)

This is pretty similar to what you see magneto doing vs sentinel i'd just like to discuss pro's/con's




:mad: :fury: :mad: what r u doing mike how dare u touch my girl. just playing nice to see u playing with her but r u confidence to use her at mid-west or ECC8? I would love to discuess rogue with u but u r my enemy and I just can't talk to u about that:lol: hope to see u and the florida peeps at our tourny.




Rogue4life

[MiXuP2.1]

Originally posted by vegita-x




what r u doing mike how dare u touch my girl. just playing nice to see u playing with her but r u confidence to use her at mid-west or ECC8? I would love to discuess rogue with u but u r my enemy and I just can't talk to u about that:lol: hope to see u and the florida peeps at our tourny.




Rogue4life

Hahahahaha naw i wouldn't use her at a major, i just like to use all of the characters bc there are so many. Plus it's fun to see what works vs who. I guess i'm just bored with the game:lol:

I think it's best to use her with tron although rog/im/sent is good as we've already said.

P.s i can't go to ecc8 bc i gotta start saving up for another place to stay, lease is up in aug:(

I gotta start worrying about more important things now:bluu: :mad: :bluu: :( :mad:

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by MiXuP2.1


Hahahahaha naw i wouldn't use her at a major, i just like to use all of the characters bc there are so many. Plus it's fun to see what works vs who. I guess i'm just bored with the game:lol:

I think it's best to use her with tron although rog/im/sent is good as we've already said.

P.s i can't go to ecc8 bc i gotta start saving up for another place to stay, lease is up in aug:(

I gotta start worrying about more important things now:bluu: :mad: :bluu: :( :mad:



yeah I hear you, well if u can try to come to our tourny or Mid-west if u can. and I have a lot to deal with as well so I guess I won't see everyone untill EVO2k3 this year.
And mike your not getting tired of MVC2 but the comp there and as soon as u go to a touny out of state your get that feeling back again.




Rogue4life

[Tanion]

I know how you feel Vegita. When I see someone else using Rogue I'm like... ``HeY!!! That's my bitch!!! >_<`` I was hearing something about some Floridian peeps trying to get a caravan started up to go to ECC. I'm like... o_O; fo' real?! Although the details are pretty not thought out yet but... we will see. Anyways...

Always... backwards tigerknee + two punch buttons, d.hk or j.hk. I think j.fp is a little slower to come out than j.hk. Not sure... well unless your in speed up mode then that shit is really quick!

Oh I got a question for you Vegita. Storm did a grounded LA xx LS on Rogue [with speed-up]. I got hit by the LA but Rogue got out of the lightning stun and was able to block the LS. Crazy? I don't know... maybe they just did it wrong. Or maybe Rogue is a weird high since you can't do LA xx LS on Sentinel cuz Sentinel will be able to block.

Oh and the funniest shit that happened the other time when I used Rogue with stolen hyper armor... I did her GNS and it went through the HSF! Both of us were like... WTF?! Crazy stuff lol.

Nice rush down stuff:

Rogue: j.fp, call sent drones/storm typhoon, dash in, s.lp, s.mp, s.fp [typhoon/drones hit], s.rk, aircombo into Power drain.

OR

instead of air combo, just sj.fp and do her airthrow.

Whatever floats your boat ya know?

[white shadow]

Originally posted by Tanion
I know how you feel Vegita. When I see someone else using Rogue I'm like... ``HeY!!! That's my bitch!!! >_<`` I was hearing something about some Floridian peeps trying to get a caravan started up to go to ECC. I'm like... o_O; fo' real?! Although the details are pretty not thought out yet but... we will see. Anyways...

Always... backwards tigerknee + two punch buttons, d.hk or j.hk. I think j.fp is a little slower to come out than j.hk. Not sure... well unless your in speed up mode then that shit is really quick!

Oh I got a question for you Vegita. Storm did a grounded LA xx LS on Rogue [with speed-up]. I got hit by the LA but Rogue got out of the lightning stun and was able to block the LS. Crazy? I don't know... maybe they just did it wrong. Or maybe Rogue is a weird high since you can't do LA xx LS on Sentinel cuz Sentinel will be able to block.

Oh and the funniest shit that happened the other time when I used Rogue with stolen hyper armor... I did her GNS and it went through the HSF! Both of us were like... WTF?! Crazy stuff lol.

Nice rush down stuff:

Rogue: j.fp, call sent drones/storm typhoon, dash in, s.lp, s.mp, s.fp [typhoon/drones hit], s.rk, aircombo into Power drain.

OR

instead of air combo, just sj.fp and do her airthrow.

Whatever floats your boat ya know?

U don't need Hyper Armor to go through GNS, GNS has invincibility at startup.;)

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by white shadow


U don't need Hyper Armor to go through GNS, GNS has invincibility at startup.;)



he's right for that certain frame she is invincible.





Rogue4life

[sypher]

well i agree with VEGITA-X rouge can be very dangerous lady when she got you on the corner u cant move ryt away cause of her speed cancling in the air she like wolvorine in MvsC1 the way she goes down and smacking it!... but wat im curious of how u do the other super move when she just keep smacking your face like a pies of unfaithfull person.... how do u do it.....????

[sypher]

well i agree with VEGITA-X rouge can be very dangerous lady when she got you on the corner u cant move ryt away cause of her speed cancling in the air she like wolvorine in MvsC1 the way she goes down and smacking it!... but wat im curious of how u do the other super move when she just keep smacking your face like a pies of unfaithfull person.... how do u do it.....????

[gbursine]

how do you approach a complete runnaway cable(...like there's any other type...)

[sypher]

Originally posted by gbursine
how do you approach a complete runnaway cable(...like there's any other type...)




well you just have 2 be very timing when running aways the best way and i really hate it when they use againts me is cable/dr.doom/blackheart i bet you just can get closer very much unless the player made a misstake about it!

[DrumlinerJoe]

Doom covers Rogue's Rushdown extremley well and chips the crap out of them. Use the cmp a lot since it pushes her right back to the opponent even if they pushblock, plus it chips.

[sypher]

Originally posted by DrumlinerJoe
Doom covers Rogue's Rushdown extremley well and chips the crap out of them. Use the cmp a lot since it pushes her right back to the opponent even if they pushblock, plus it chips.



so u mean 2 tell us that rouge can do a trap same as strider.....:eek:....... what character u mix with her rouge

mind goes like this mag./cable/rouge<--- i use rouge the kissings assists 2 set a super or a air dash combo... wht abt you.....?????

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by sypher




so u mean 2 tell us that rouge can do a trap same as strider.....:eek:....... what character u mix with her rouge

mind goes like this mag./cable/rouge<--- i use rouge the kissings assists 2 set a super or a air dash combo... wht abt you.....?????

My teams usually consist of Rogue/Storm/Tron, Doom, Cammy Cyke, or Psy. And you can hold someone down with Rogue/Doom, just gotta work at it a lot harder and be more flexible with the way you rush them while Doom is out. Of course, getting them in the corner is ideal since outside of the corner they got a lot better chance of escaping.

[sypher]

so you mean u have 2 be really flexible using rouge... :D :D well what are your combos on Rogue/Storm/Tron, Doom, Cammy Cyke, or Psy. i cant seems 2 figure out on your character's how you stay alive when you fight those hit and run player's

[DrumlinerJoe]

One combo I do is jump in with jfp or jdhk dash in lk lk hk, call Doom, sj lp lp fp, the sj fp should slam them right into the rocks, sj dhk and you should be behind them when they recover from the rocks so you can have a free power drain. After that you can dash fp xx into GNS.

Remember if you're backed into the corner you can powerdrain, clk (unrollable) xx into launcher or GNS.

As for runaways, just stay on them and don't let up at all. cmp keeps you close to them if they try to push block. Rembmer that jfp has a lot of priority on ground moves, so don't be afraid to use it. jdhk has slightly less priority so remember that.

[FOBio]

i'm thinking about trying to learn rogue (just for kicks), but i don't know anything about her. should i start with her or put her second? i was thinking about using her with iceman and cyke, but i don't know if this really works out. what's her best assist, and what assists work well with her? is there a link/post that answers these questions?

[DrumlinerJoe]

Yeah, click on Rogue for the Strats section and click on threads "from the beginning" and you'll find the old big thread. Lots of combos and info on her there.

Anyway, for some quick answer, start her out on point. She's gotta quick 1 frame start up on her super so she can DHC safely into another combo if that becomes necessary.

Her Good Night Sugah allows a lot of different supers to connect afterwards. Even Cable's Time flip and Jill's Tyrant super will connect.

Doom helps cover Rogue's Rush down very well and gives her chipping power. Rogue/Tron combos deal UGLY damage. Sent is a good partner for anyone and his assist also helps rushdown. And Rogue/Storm make a nice pair as well.

[sypher]

:mad: how manny super's has rouge has i all i know is only one but there's one more that i saw that she did to me same as like Good Night Sugar but she only do the punching style not with the kiss how do you that....???

[FOBio]

if your last character is rogue or only have 1 bar of super meter, press both assist buttons (i think it's called THC) and you'll do rogue's dashing super. she punches like 50 billion times.

[sypher]

Originally posted by FOBio
if your last character is rogue or only have 1 bar of super meter, press both assist buttons (i think it's called THC) and you'll do rogue's dashing super. she punches like 50 billion times.



ic thanks for the tip!!!:cool: !!!!!

[DrumlinerJoe]

Just so you know, her rushing punches super does more damage than GNS and they can't roll after it so staying closer is a lot easier. But then again you get no power up, but she does good damage and has good defense on her own anyhow.

[vegita-x]

hey mike I hope u make it to our tourny I should win it but u never know. I've been training like crazy for mid-west and the more I play the more I understand MVC2. O yeah fuck magneto:D he sucks so much I will never lose to him again. my goal is sentinel no else worry's me. When you played me I was only at level 2 but now I've got to go level 3 on everyone since there catching on to her. Rogue at level 3





Rogue4life

[white shadow]

Rogue/Doom sux IMO cuz of the stoopid bouncy effect when ur opponent gets hit by rocks when ur trying to combo.:mad:

If u wan't to try something fresh use Rogue/Sent Proj. Look in the third Rogue thread for Rogue/Sent Proj. combos.:D

[sypher]

Originally posted by white shadow
Rogue/Doom sux IMO cuz of the stoopid bouncy effect when ur opponent gets hit by rocks when ur trying to combo.:mad:

If u wan't to try something fresh use Rogue/Sent Proj. Look in the third Rogue thread for Rogue/Sent Proj. combos.:D



what do u mean that there a hole on that fighthing style or rouge i thnk it doesnt i depend's on the player using the character ryt....?? but sent. Projt. well do well 2 but i prefer for dr.doom for his rock..!:D

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by sypher




what do u mean that there a hole on that fighthing style or rouge i thnk it doesnt i depend's on the player using the character ryt....?? but sent. Projt. well do well 2 but i prefer for dr.doom for his rock..!:D

I think he means that Dooms rocks don't set up combos as easily as Sent or Tron, I still like using him though.

[Onyx_Chameleon]

I sometimes play Rouge with Sent., but as of lately I am tryin not pick Sent so much (that guy is like a bad habbit for me), and Doom just does'nt work for me, all them half circle moves tend too mess me up. I find Rouge/Storm/Tron a very strong and well rounded team though there is no good anti air here (Rouge's suck). Have you ever dhc from Tron rush super to storms hail super, mad damage!!!

A scruby combo a found with rouge and storms third assist, is do a three hit combo with rouge call storm then lk. power drain, after the drain rouge will throw them into the assist and you can then jump up and do an air combo. This is unblockabe to an extent, but I imagine people will soon catch on to this combo.
:p

Anyone know of any good uses to rouge using storms sucky third assist such as good rush down tactics or somthin...:)

oh yeah, has anyone ever hered of a rouge glitch involving a combo that somehow teleports her to the other side I've tryed it but cant get it to work:confused:

[sypher]

but ill still go for dr.doom cause even do it does'nt connect much combo it very tricky 2 move or just even be on gaurd cause those rock has a damn gaurd damege like a pile of shit!:D

[MiXuP2.1]

Originally posted by vegita-x
hey mike I hope u make it to our tourny I should win it but u never know. I've been training like crazy for mid-west and the more I play the more I understand MVC2. O yeah fuck magneto:D he sucks so much I will never lose to him again. my goal is sentinel no else worry's me. When you played me I was only at level 2 but now I've got to go level 3 on everyone since there catching on to her. Rogue at level 3





Rogue4life

Hopefully you have a different team or somthing, 8-0 in the finals in my favor at showdown in the south 3...I expected more from you pat:( :lol:

p.s mag/doom rapes your team for free:D

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by MiXuP2.1


Hopefully you have a different team or somthing, 8-0 in the finals in my favor at showdown in the south 3...I expected more from you pat:( :lol:

p.s mag/doom rapes your team for free:D




:mad: :mad: :mad: you better come for that.

[MiXuP2.1]

Originally posted by vegita-x





:mad: :mad: :mad: you better come for that.

hey do you remember that guy you stole your rogue tactics from?

I JUST remembered because you were using rogue/sent/doom back then while he was doing these crazy combo's :eek:

Dissssss

[vegita-x]

Originally posted by MiXuP2.1


hey do you remember that guy you stole your rogue tactics from?

I JUST remembered because you were using rogue/sent/doom back then while he was doing these crazy combo's :eek:

Dissssss



I didn't still anything from him, we both we're using rogue back then so chillll. and we learn from one another how to play with rogue, but he retired from mvc2 not to long after that tounry.





Rogue4life

[sypher]

all of us are copycat! we learn and try to do there combo's right so what other's do we do it to its all practical!

[DrumlinerJoe]

Hey ya'll, I was trying this little thing last night and it was actually working okay. I would launch and do a simple air combo like lp lp hp which would slam them right down. I would land on the other side of them and do power drain right when they got up. It was really helpful for inching them to the corner for a free clk XX GNS or launcher or whatever. See what ya'll think.

[ROC]

Ya thats good to do every once in a wile but if you get into a patern with it you'll eat an assist.

[sypher]

by the way is rouge is on the med teir or the low tier....? cause for me she's the top tier's

[Neo_Slasher]

i hear this about rouge and i have doubt { you launch then sj.fp xx to air throw} how you do this and can you do it after a full magic series?

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by Neo_Slasher
i hear this about rouge and i have doubt { you launch then sj.fp xx to air throw} how you do this and can you do it after a full magic series?

Absolutely that works. Whenever you do just a sj fp after a launch it causes the opponent to bounce back up after the hit. You'll fall right next to them after they bounce so you can throw. After a couple of times they'll start teching it though, so use it sparingly.

And no, it don't work after a magic series.

[ROC]

Originally posted by DrumlinerJoe
And no, it don't work after a magic series.

Unless you somehow reset the sj.FP.

[Neo_Slasher]

thanx ROC n Joe!!! i guues i shoul mix up between an air combo and this glitch since i've been playing rouge /sent /capcom
i wanted to know this sice i plan to do launch + commando AAA
sj.fp x to air throw i'm pretty sure if this is possible it will do heavy damage to opponents ... i think rouge/sent/ capcom is rouge's best team due to the great damage dealing and rush down cover it gives her, capcom assist+ launch hk to air combo ending with power drain or hp does alfa bar on sent without power up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:evil: ad sentdrones covers rouge rush down and tri-jumps perfectly giving rouge the edge to mtch top tiers on my opinion anyway but still it's too good to be ignored:D

[sypher]

any body have a video of rouge....?

[Neo_Slasher]

can you guys tell mewat moves are Sj.xx wth rouge so i can follow thatup with a tri-jump? and also where can i find a good rouge vid:( i wanna see her in rush down overdrive mode in a tourny but had no sucess on finding one:sweat:..... appreciate the help.
thanx in advance:D

[ROC]

Originally posted by Neo_Slasher
can you guys tell mewat moves are Sj.xx wth rouge so i can follow thatup with a tri-jump? and also where can i find a good rouge vid:( i wanna see her in rush down overdrive mode in a tourny but had no sucess on finding one:sweat:..... appreciate the help.
thanx in advance:D

Well the best/easiest moves Rogue can super jump cancel are s.LP and c.RH.

c.RH xx sj. xx sj.D + RH actually combos and you do GNS or Snap Back after, so a good combo would be:

c.LK, c.MK, c.RH xx sj. xx sj.D+RH xx Snap Back
c.LK, c.MK, c.RH xx sj. xx sj.D+RH xx GNS

[DrumlinerJoe]

Hey ya'll, I found this simple guardbreak that isn't that impressive, but it does land a hit and keeps them in the corner.

When they're falling in just sj lk then dhk. You'll be able to hit them with the dhk and keep going after that. Any of ya'll fast enough to do something cooler after the sj lk? I haven't sat down and tried it that much.

[shinoken]

Hey Mixup, was that you that I was playing in XvsSF on my laptop at the Break(or was it Infinite?) If it was u, how do you do that other infinite wit Rogue. I was doing the other one (jump XX ad(f) lk, hk, repeat into GNS) But I think you were doing one simular to the speed up infinite on MVC2.

Anyway, when I use Rogue, I usually call sentinel drones, air dash above them and lk lk(dosent have to hit them, just confuse them) so the Sent drones are behind them, usually they are confused by then, and I can launch or whatever I want. OR I c.hk XX super jump XX down + hk, super or whatever I feel like doing after that.(I noticed its much easier on XvsSF tho) But I cross people up with ad lk lk alot when they are close to the corner.

With Magneto as point, using Rogue throw assist, I >> c.lk + rogue, c.lk, (rogue grabs them) Dash BACKWARDS, then jump + hypergrav, or just Magnetic tempest. And if you are good enough, just do ROM infinite after Rogue throws them in the air.

[white shadow]

Sadly C,HK SJ cancel D.HK only works once against skilled players, well for me at least.:(

Probably my favorite anti-Sentinel flight stomp combo is *call Sent ground* J.LK, J.MP, J.HP *Sent G hits* J.LK, J.MP, J.HP XX Power Drain. MMM..MMM...Good!!!:evil: Oh and Sent needs to be flying at normal jump height to work effectively. :p

[ImPerfectCell]

damn, but if they're sentinel is any good, they wont stay at normal jump height unless they are c.hp XX fly, unfly repeat from close up. Most of the time they are stomping the hell out of Rogue.
BTW How do you fight Cable/commando with magneto/Storm/Rogue once Cable has his distance from you. I cant stand Cable :mad: Why did Capcom put him in this game. :mad: To give n00b's a cheap way of beating the damn game.

[LightningStorm]

Originally posted by ImPerfectCell
damn, but if they're sentinel is any good, they wont stay at normal jump height unless they are c.hp XX fly, unfly repeat from close up. Most of the time they are stomping the hell out of Rogue.
BTW How do you fight Cable/commando with magneto/Storm/Rogue once Cable has his distance from you. I cant stand Cable :mad: Why did Capcom put him in this game. :mad: To give n00b's a cheap way of beating the damn game.

I rarely get a chance to play Rogue anymore.... But I may be able to assist here.

Fighting sentinel's stomps... depending on the assist sent has you pretty much thrust block and use the opening to jump with her light punch or kick.. those beat everything sentinel has.

Fighting Cable/Commando with that team... requires putting Storm on point if your Magneto isn't up to par. Mags can absolutely do it.. but it's just easier with Storm. As for Rogue... I personally have a CapCom assist problem when I have Rogue. Storm's alpha assist will take CapCom down to cover your forward movement... but Cable will likely start shooting people so that's not particularly safe.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by ImPerfectCell
damn, but if they're sentinel is any good, they wont stay at normal jump height unless they are c.hp XX fly, unfly repeat from close up. Most of the time they are stomping the hell out of Rogue.
BTW How do you fight Cable/commando with magneto/Storm/Rogue once Cable has his distance from you. I cant stand Cable :mad: Why did Capcom put him in this game. :mad: To give n00b's a cheap way of beating the damn game.

That's why I super jump when I do the combo, SJing gives me the additional speed I need (hey that rhymes :lol: ) to do the combo. Trust me it happens.

Oh and I hate playing against Cable too but just be patient and force them into the corner.:evil:

[JummPeee]

cable is easy!!! i'd say storm is the hardest cuz if she starts flying...dammit i can't super jump that high!!:lol: luckily commando will do some of that for me :cool:

[white shadow]

Runaway Storm is too hard, luckily most players around here use rushdown Storm.:evil:

[kanedito]

what ive been doing with rogue is that i start poking with 2 low kicks, then roundhouse and follow up with weak punch, weak kick, wp, wk and fierce punch... I end up landing on their other side and start all over again... this is what i used to do with spiderman and i discovered it worked with rogue too...

ive done it like 6 time in a row against a oh so much hated cable/bbhood/jin player at the school's arcade muahahaa

the guy was like wtf... umm... roll? :p

[white shadow]

C.LK, C.MP, S.LK, S.RK is better because people often pushblock and C.MP will stay on the since it travels.

[StraydoG]

I wanted to learn Rogue as no one here uses her and I see some great potiental in her. Though I wanted to know, whats the commands for her jump in kick, few low hits, repeat? The CPU does it on me sometimes and its damn FAST! It looks like tri jumping stuff. Also the combo where she ends up on the other side you you. Sorry Im asking things which will be in here but Ill only be home a few minutes, check and goto the arcade later on. Ill probably use her with Sent, Storm, IM probably. Shes on my list of next to learn, so Ill read this thread but right now its time to go out!

[white shadow]

Go to the a much older Rogue thread made by Timeflip for a comprehensive guide.:)

[kanedito]

Originally posted by white shadow
Go to the a much older Rogue thread made by Timeflip for a comprehensive guide.:)

where's that one? i already looked from the beginning but there's no thread by timeflip there

[white shadow]

Awww man they deleted it, I'll chack somewhere else.:)

[kanedito]

hehe... ill check back to see if u found it

[white shadow]

http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/marvel_vs_capcom_2_rogue.txt

^ Go here for some non-advanced Rogue info.:)

[kanedito]

link doesnt work...
and what do you mean by non-advanced?:bluu: hehe

[white shadow]

Originally posted by kanedito
link doesnt work...
and what do you mean by non-advanced?:bluu: hehe

Geez man, everytime I try to help it ends up as bad luck. Sorry man.:p And by non-advanced I meant basic.:lol:

[kanedito]

the link doesnt work haha

[JummPeee]

hows this question for u guys, sentinel fastflying with magneto proj. assist .... if he gets away at the beginning, how do u plan on kicking his ass? the team is row, but how do u guys think about getting back in close frames, AGAINST TOP PLAYERS, none of those weak mofo's cuz those hoes are jst too stupid...:lol:

[white shadow]

Let them get to you, they usually underestimate players who use lower tier characters.:evil:

[Franx]

mixup or someone thats proficient with rogue, no one in my area plays with rogue so i thought i might as well pick her up. when im practicing against the computer and the computer is also rogue... the computer does a quick set of combos at me that looks like shes tri jumping... whats the input to execute those combos to make it look like a tri jump?

thanks in advance.

oh and by the way, whats the best opener for rogue? against say storm? and against someone slow?

thanks again.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by Franx
mixup or someone thats proficient with rogue, no one in my area plays with rogue so i thought i might as well pick her up. when im practicing against the computer and the computer is also rogue... the computer does a quick set of combos at me that looks like shes tri jumping... whats the input to execute those combos to make it look like a tri jump?

thanks in advance.

oh and by the way, whats the best opener for rogue? against say storm? and against someone slow?

thanks again.

SJ J.LK *quick* AD J.LK and J.D RK as a mixup. GOOD LUCK!!!
:)

[Franx]

Originally posted by white shadow


SJ J.LK *quick* AD J.LK and J.D RK as a mixup. GOOD LUCK!!!
:)

talking to himself... super jump? or normal jump?... LK dash LK D+HK... hmmm ... well ima try normal jumping first. okay, thanks shadow.

[Franx]

oh and also, say you have the opponent against the wall (who messed up a super and is wide open) when you hit them with rogue's taunt, can you connect a "GNS" or perhaps a lvl 1 hyper combo (A1+A2 where she just keeps punching you)?

its just for style and kicks :lol:

thanks.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Originally posted by Franx


talking to himself... super jump? or normal jump?... LK dash LK D+HK... hmmm ... well ima try normal jumping first. okay, thanks shadow.

Either one, normal jump if you wanna call an assist while in the air for a mixup, or Super jump if you wanna do it really fast.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by DrumlinerJoe


Either one, normal jump if you wanna call an assist while in the air for a mixup, or Super jump if you wanna do it really fast. The superjump mixup takes practice but is good for more experienced opponents.:o

[JummPeee]

all i have to say is for u rogue guys, like me, master sq. jumping.... it really does work

[Smokeyp91]

rogue with captain commando is the DEADLY

say you got rogue launch opponent and while doing the air combo bring out captains assisist at the same time and watch you have to time it where it comes out right in the middle when your doing the combo in the air
now c 50% life gone from the opponent
try it people

[white shadow]

Originally posted by Smokeyp91
rogue with captain commando is the DEADLY

say you got rogue launch opponent and while doing the air combo bring out captains assisist at the same time and watch you have to time it where it comes out right in the middle when your doing the combo in the air
now c 50% life gone from the opponent
try it people

That's already my team Rogue/Sent/Capcom, plus Capcom can prevent rushdown and reach Storm.:D :cool:

Rogue's standard AC does 67 points of damage, add that with Cap'n Corridor's 25 points of damage and you have 92 points in one combo!!!:evil:

[DirtyM]

Damn, can anybodys Rogue here rushdown as good as the computer does when it's losing life? I've never seen another rogue player move like that(sorry ROC). But when I fight against her on training she doesn't even hurt a fly, she just throws out random attacks.

Does anybody know any dirty resets that I can use with the following team?

Rogue/Cammy/T.Bonne

This is my only Rogue team at the moment. I think it's a preety easy team to manage and I think it' deals decent amount of damage. All though I've noticed that most of my combos I do so far are all basicly rollable. If you guys can help give some tips or oppinions on how to work this team then help a brother out. Thanks in return.

[white shadow]

Sorry but Rogue isn't the reset master, her best resets only happen when her back is facing away from the corner.

Like: *with back facing the corner* S.LP, S.LK, S.MK, Power Drain, *pause* S.FP (juggle not OTG) XX GNS *OR* C.FP into AC.:D

[chill_effect]

ok this is random but fuk it.
easy as fuk crossups.
RST
with rogue do dash in lk,mp,fp, u dash in maually(ff)crouchinglk,crmp(calloutstormsprojasst) at the same time u do crmp not earlier or b4. if they block sj cancel the crmp then dRhk to the other side

gain speed up with rogue kill storm in 3,2,1, dead
do cr lk,cr mp,(glitch)call tron.you should be on the other side n they should still be blocking low. then quickly do a dRHK. they have 2 block that high.repeat. this really works.

[chill_effect]

ive got more but vegitas shit is crazier. wut happend at texas showdown 5 man. that really suked. at least preppy got some footage of my matches in there.

[Mr. Sakuraba]

Im pretty new to rouge and to marvel in general. I started playing about a month ago. I can do some sent FF comboes so my execution is decent. I want to play team vegita (sorry dont know if its called something else).

Anyways there really isnt a rouge thread thats worth a fuck.(no offense to anyone whose posted here). From what i read there used to be an older rouge thread that was good but got lost in the great crash of 04.

Anyways my point is this, Can someone please list RST's main comboes, setups, resets, and general gameplan . Kinda like a guide for us RST newbies. I dont need every obscure combo there is. But i would like to know the main combos setups and resets that are essential to this team being successful. Whats the bread and butter combo for rouge w/tron that you always try for wether there blocking or not? And if they do block, what string do you use to try to mix them up and catch them sleeping?
Do you use the same combo when you see the opp is wide open, or is there a really good combo that is only used when a big opening presents itself? Fire away experts..

[DrumlinerJoe]

Well I'm not the best Rogue out there, but since no one else has said nothing here goes.

Rogue/Tron:
You can do basic ground combos with Tron backing you up, jump in Ccall Tron) slk smk, dash slk smk, launch sjlp sjmp sjf. The sjfp will slam them into the ground and you can do several things. You can;

1. Airdash dhk before you land, this will mix them up cause you're coming in from the other side sometimes and lets you land another combo.

2. Land, and either clk with Tron, quickly jump dhk call Tron, chk Call Tron, or Jump airdash call tron to mix them up.

3. When you do a chk while calling Tron her assis will OTG them if they don't roll and you can either GNS or snapout.

4. When you have the speedup inf going call Tron right before the glitch for easy huge damage.

5. When you are backed into the corner an land a power drain, clk then call Tron for the super plus damage.

6. If you start a ground combo that leads to a launcher call Tron right after you launch and just sjfp to slam them into her.

7. If you get an open shot at an assist launch then call Tron so they land right on her for big damage.

8. Cyke and Doom beat Tron so watch out for that. Tron beats Capcom and Blackheart.

It's all very general info, hope it can be of some use though.

[Mr. Sakuraba]

Thanks for the tips joe. Vegita or any other expert rouges wanna step in here with something to add? Would really like to play this team, but there no info on it.

[chill_effect]

most rouge ppl don't post resets with her cause she's more of a what u don't know will hurt u. And they have their reasons. Well, I don't even play rouge, but my bro does so he's the one that posted under my name. Vegita-x is the shit, with rogue, there is some1 else that i've seen in vids that is good with rogue also, but don't remember.

Just keep on the lookout and keep asking for answers, some1 has to reply to ur question. But they won't tell u all their secrets and with good reason, some things u just have to figure out on ur own. After all we are trying to get more gamers for mvc2.


Go to www.zachd.com

This site has a lot of mad crazy vids and matches. Hopefully u can see them cause this will really help u out a lot. Look for any matches that have to do with vegita-x. just watch him, and u'll see rouges true power. His main team is rogue, storm, tron. scary team.

[Mr. Sakuraba]

I have a lot of vegita vids. But like i said earlier, im not a rogue expert so i dont know what hes doing to set those up. All i can tell is call tron tri jump ect ect. Itd be great to know specifics.

Vegita if you read this im the white guy that met you at final round 8 . I commented on how i admired anyone who can take a mid tier team to the level youve taken it. Share some shit with me so i can spread the mid tier virus. :karate:

[DrumlinerJoe]

Well, a lot of the stuff about setups comes from knowing what she can and can't do and such. I'll give some more general info.

Her jfp has a lot of priority, more than jdhk.

When you a power drain with most normal sized characters you can dash, fp xx into GNS afterwards. When you do it with speedup it becomes unrollable.

After a launcher you can just regular sjfp as a follow up which makes them bounce and sets them up pretty easily for an air throw.

Cmp is a really good move because it automatically scoots you right next to an opponent if they push block, it also chips.

When you get defense up Rogue has the highest defense in the game. Combos have to be BIG in order for them to do substantial damage.

Rogue can punish assists by launching, sjfp, sjfp on the way down, then launch again repeat.

GNS is invincible at the the flash, use it to go through stuff like Mags' Shockwave and Sent's HSF. In fact if you duck under a rocket punch you can counter with GNS even if he cancels into HSF even from full screen.

I guess if you have more questions get a little more specific cause that's just a lot of general info right there.

[white shadow]

When do a normal jump AC always end it with J.FP because it will bounce them back and you can get a free Power Drain.:tup: