Mvc2: Artificial unfly mode

[demiSe]

Artificial unfly mode. Or fake unfly mode. Or semi-useless unfly mode. Whatever you wanna call it is fine. I've been keeping this to myself for quite a while, dunno why really, I'm kinda selfish. I keep a lot of engine anomalies to myself. But it's not that big a deal, some of you prolly know this already.

Anyhoo, going back to the topic. Did you know there is a way to acquire unfly mode without EVER getting hit by anything? And yes I know that you can do specials/supers after unflying but this is different. This technique allows you to perform normal moves after unflying. And the best part is that you can nj all you want and it won't deteriorate!

Ok, here's how it works. First of all, your opponent has to be in stun the moment you enter fly mode. Either hitstun or blockstun is fine. Second, perhaps the biggest drawback, preventing this from being the discovery of the year and from making Sent beyond godlike, is that you cannot perform any action while in fly mode. If you do, then the "unfly mode" won't be there after you unfly. Flying back and forth is fine. That's about it on the explanation.

Here are some examples:

IM - (corner?) c.lk, c.lp xx fly, unfly, lk, u+hp, land, start infinite

Sent - c.lk, s.lp xx fly, unfly, lk (...sorry, thats the best I could come up with)

[GeekBoy]

You need to fuck off and die.

[demiSe]

Pfft... shut your gay mouth.

Go bite off some more combos from vids and claim them as your own. Scrubtastic fool. :lol:

[GeekBoy]

Take your fake strategy ass back to GameFAQs and stay there, their dumbass population is down.

[demiSe]

Don't be mad just cause you can't post nothing enlightening.

[GeekBoy]

No, I'll post something that makes sense.

Who the fuck will fly without doing something? Seriously. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF FLYING, TO ATTACK.

[demiSe]

You idiot. This does allow you to attack. And it makes flying safe even if you don't have unfly mode since you can block after unflying. This allows for pressure strings and baiting tactics that weren't possible before. Like say:

hsf, hp+Mags, fly forward, unfly, hk, land, continue pressure

If you sense danger you can unfly and be completely safe without ever acquiring unfly mode. Perfect for baiting and punishing AAAs.

If you get the real unfly mode you can fully utilize attacks AND be safe but if you don't then this is the next best choice. Hrmm, safe flying with no unfly mode... How the fuck is that useless, ya dumbass?

[GeekBoy]

What is the point of doing that if you're low enough to the ground to do flying RH and unfly without having to worry about retaliation? When you unfly in front of someone, they will not be able to call an assist because they will still be in block stun by the time you land. So why do something like this when you can just do what you're accustomed to and not get hit? Outside of Commando, ANY anti air will hit Sentinel and beat the stomp before he even gets it out.

You WILL get hit by an AAA during the match, so who cares when it happens?

[demiSe]

Originally posted by GeekBoy
You WILL get hit by an AAA during the match, so who cares when it happens?

I never said it was better than the real unfly mode. All I said was if (and when) you just so happen to lose it, it's better to have some kind of safety harness to fall back on instead of just sitting on the ground and blocking or flying around recklessly trying to get hit by an AAA.

Plus seeing as how this is relatively new you can use it as a bait. Normal jump in front of your opponent then make them block something and go into fly mode. Most players will acknowledge the fact that you don't have unfly mode and try to punish you whether it be hail, ahvb, or w/e. Just then you can unfly (if your fast enough to unfly ahvb on reaction) and make them burn a meter.

Also here's the other portion of this technique that I forgot to mention earlier. It's kinda important, so I'm a dick for not saying this right away. You can use this trick, fly around, call assists, do specials and/or supers (just no normals), unfly, and still have a normal unfly action just like with regular unfly mode.

[taiji]

damn geekboy, stfu... lame ass theory fighting scrub.

deMise: if this stuff does work, excellent find bro!

[demiSe]

I've done some more testing and it seems that this unfly trick works best if you activate fly mode during/after the 2nd hit.

For example with Sent you can do lp, hp xx fly or c.hk (2 or 3 hits) xx fly and it will work even if the string doesn't combo. But if you just do lp xx fly, or s.hk xx fly it doesn't seem to work.

Ok, here's the rundown for those who are confused. Once again using Sent as the example.

c.lk, s.hk xx fly, fly around anywhere/call assists/do specials or supers, unfly, do any normal/special/or super move just like with regular unfly mode w/o ever getting hit by anything.

[SBCDyN]

This is nothing particularly NEW persay, as I have done it countless times by accident. Yes it is SEMI-useful at times, especially when you have an assist that creates a lot of blockstun (i.e. tron) and would allow you to continue ground dash in c. short, s. jab xx fly xx blah shit after an unfly short, short. However, this in no ways even compares to unfly mode at all.

[GeekBoy]

If this is "new", why is it that you see people unfly and block when they're playing against Storm right when she does the hailstorm?

[50mOrEcEnTz]

Originally posted by GeekBoy
If this is "new", why is it that you see people unfly and block when they're playing against Storm right when she does the hailstorm?

because they are in the real unfly mode, thats the only way that would be possible, since storm would have to be in blockstun for this "new" tatic to work....come on geekboy, carry personal vendettas elsewhere, give the guy some props/respect

[GeekBoy]

Originally posted by 50mOrEcEnTz


because they are in the real unfly mode, thats the only way that would be possible, since storm would have to be in blockstun for this "new" tatic to work....come on geekboy, carry personal vendettas elsewhere, give the guy some props/respect

I've seen it without real unfly.

[REALPLAYER]

Originally posted by demiSe

Ok, here's how it works. First of all, your opponent has to be in stun the moment you enter fly mode. Either hitstun or blockstun is fine. Second, perhaps the biggest drawback, preventing this from being the discovery of the year and from making Sent beyond godlike, is that you cannot perform any action while in fly mode. If you do, then the "unfly mode" won't be there after you unfly. Flying back and forth is fine. That's about it on the explanation.



I'm not sure I understand.
You're saying that Sent can do something like....

c.fierce, fly, unfly

....and he will be in Unfly Mode???

[GeekBoy]

What he's saying is that you have UnFly for ONE use only. But, yeah, that's what he's saying I think. But since you're so close to the ground, you won't be able to do anything except block and the c.Fierce, fly unfly is safe by itself.

[SBCDyN]

I think the basic premise is that if you jump xx fly and then unfly without doing anything in fly mode or before fly mode you still retain jump mode and can do a regular action after unflying such as block/attack since you had not performed one during the jump.

[Locke123183]

Hmmm... I know that I've had my point character die, and had sentinel come in and then I superjumped, fly, unfly while the other players storm was doing a hailstorm and I wasn't hit, I had no opportunity to get unfly mode, no assists hit me or anything.

I just flew and unflew and blocked storms hailstorm, opponent was like "wtf how did you get unfly mode" shrug, just curious how that happens.

[50mOrEcEnTz]

Originally posted by Locke123183
Hmmm... I know that I've had my point character die, and had sentinel come in and then I superjumped, fly, unfly while the other players storm was doing a hailstorm and I wasn't hit, I had no opportunity to get unfly mode, no assists hit me or anything.

I just flew and unflew and blocked storms hailstorm, opponent was like "wtf how did you get unfly mode" shrug, just curious how that happens.

u know you can get characters in unfly mode b4 they come in right...cuz u dun sound like you do.

[REALPLAYER]

Originally posted by Locke123183
Hmmm... I know that I've had my point character die, and had sentinel come in and then I superjumped, fly, unfly while the other players storm was doing a hailstorm and I wasn't hit, I had no opportunity to get unfly mode, no assists hit me or anything.

I just flew and unflew and blocked storms hailstorm, opponent was like "wtf how did you get unfly mode" shrug, just curious how that happens.

Sent can be put in unfly even as a helper.

[Locke123183]

Ahhh...that would explain it, I had never read that before.

Thanks for the info :)

[chicken]

Great find, demiSe. This artificial unfly mode really works, although not in every case. I'm working on some combos that take advantage of this technique, but I think they all require assists, because the examples you gave below are impossible to combo (as far as I've tried).
Originally posted by demiSe
Here are some examples:

IM - (corner?) c.lk, c.lp xx fly, unfly, lk, u+hp, land, start infinite

Sent - c.lk, s.lp xx fly, unfly, lk (...sorry, thats the best I could come up with) Still, a great find.

EDIT:
A combo to demonstrate this mode's uses:
In corner, with Sent/Storm-A--

Normal jump-in j.LK, j.HK, c.LK, s.LP + Storm-A, fly up, unfly, unf.LK, unf.HK, dash in a little c.LK, s.LP, LP RocketPunch, HSF, etc...

Notice the combo starts with a normal jump but features unfly maneuvers.

[demiSe]

Originally posted by chicken
I'm working on some combos that take advantage of this technique, but I think they all require assists, because the examples you gave below are impossible to combo (as far as I've tried).


The IM one is possible albeit pretty difficult, I got it to combo in the corner. Another one you can do is nj, ad d/f, lk, lk, land, c.lk, c.lk, fly, unfly, lk (otg), lk, land, inf with lk (not my idea). I'm not so sure about the Sent one I just assumed it would work.

[REALPLAYER]

Just on a side note, you can get the IM infinite off of c.jab, c.jab a much easier way.
Just do....

c.jab, c.jab, fly, j.jab, j.jab, u+j.fierce, unfly, u+j.fierce, land, infinite

Props to hn2682 for showing me that. :cool:

[demiSe]

You need unfly mode for that. The setups I listed do not. And yeah, I've been doing that for a while now. Ever since I started paying attention to IM's unfly mode. I do that along with his air unfly inf and the corner unfly inf. Tho I usually do c.lk, c.mp, fly, lk, u+hp, unfly, u+hp because there's less buffering and it's similar to the way I do the other 2 unfly infinites.

[Dark Strider]

Originally posted by 50mOrEcEnTz


u know you can get characters in unfly mode b4 they come in right...cuz u dun sound like you do.

actually, I don't remember, care to enlighten me?:D

[50mOrEcEnTz]

Originally posted by Dark Strider


actually, I don't remember, care to enlighten me?:D

u know, when ur assist gets hit and they come off of the ground but don't land on their back...what realplayer said

[golba666]

maybe its just me but geekboy is the most hated person on forum, ppl always sayin hes lyin, hatin and shit

[epyonx]

Originally posted by golba666
maybe its just me but geekboy is the most hated person on forum, ppl always sayin hes lyin, hatin and shit

i 2nd that cause he be hating on everyone and some of my posts but then he just gets owned by whole bunch of peeps i dont know just backing my logic http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25221


man ever since he lost oP ship( mod status) its power trip to him. I will say he sometimes post valid stuff sometimes yet he likes to flex his internet muscles.:lol:

i also have gotten unfly mode wit out gettin hit when i do my meter building trap wit goes s or c hp fly hk cancel hk unfly land repeat and i do it quite fast and then i dont know i end up wit fligth mode. I AM NOT sure so let me come back and comfirm.

[onehitkill]

No offence but didnt The Magestical One (TMO) say that on gamefaqs and anyway i chill wit him and he found this out awhile ago.....

[demiSe]

Originally posted by onehitkill
No offence but didnt The Magestical One (TMO) say that on gamefaqs and anyway i chill wit him and he found this out awhile ago.....

You're too slow for words, Nelsen. I mean seriously look at my profile and put two and two together, huh:lol:

[Sir Bryan]

Originally posted by demiSe


You're too slow for words, Nelsen. I mean seriously look at my profile and put two and two together, huh:lol:

that is the greatest webpage in the history of the internet :)

[onehitkill]

LOL!!!!!Hey at least i defended u =P anyway when are we gonna chill bro i want u to beat me bad!!! Chris thinks so and im starting to think so aswell. I want to be ur student teach me!!!!!!!!!

[Dasrik]

This is actually not new. If anyone looked up the thread I wrote about unfly mode I wrote a long time ago, this is what I called "pseudo unfly". It's actually the standard mode everyone is in at the start of the match, and if I recall correctly, as long as you don't do any aerial normals or block during a jump, you will have this unfly mode. What it means is that you can fly and unfly and keep your action AS LONG AS YOU DON'T USE IT. Specials and supers are okay, but doing normals or blocking (including on the way down from unfly) will cause you to lose it until unfly mode is reset.

[fanatiq]

Artificial unfly mode. Or fake unfly mode. Or semi-useless unfly mode. Whatever you wanna call it is fine. I've been keeping this to myself for quite a while, dunno why really, I'm kinda selfish. I keep a lot of engine anomalies to myself. But it's not that big a deal, some of you prolly know this already.

Anyhoo, going back to the topic. Did you know there is a way to acquire unfly mode without EVER getting hit by anything? And yes I know that you can do specials/supers after unflying but this is different. This technique allows you to perform normal moves after unflying. And the best part is that you can nj all you want and it won't deteriorate!

Ok, here's how it works. First of all, your opponent has to be in stun the moment you enter fly mode. Either hitstun or blockstun is fine. Second, perhaps the biggest drawback, preventing this from being the discovery of the year and from making Sent beyond godlike, is that you cannot perform any action while in fly mode. If you do, then the "unfly mode" won't be there after you unfly. Flying back and forth is fine. That's about it on the explanation.

Here are some examples:

IM - (corner?) c.lk, c.lp xx fly, unfly, lk, u+hp, land, start infinite

Sent - c.lk, s.lp xx fly, unfly, lk (...sorry, thats the best I could come up with)

That information is false. You can ALWAYS, do an attack after flying, its just that often times you BUFFER out of fly. in mvc2 you can enter in jab and the fierce the next frame while still holding jab and it counts as a dash. Likewise, you can press qcb + short and then roundhouse the next frame while in fly and it will count as an fly though the game still counts the short and denies your right to another attack.

I remember trying like 10 times like "DUDE I GAVE MYSELF UNFLY" to the guy that helped me get good at marvel. I would go in and out of fly like 23984 times then go into fly and unfly short, and it worked sometimes its just really hard not to buffer. I have a program pad and its consistent if you sj go into fly, then unfly and press short, it will come out.

I'm only posting this because someone linked this thread as if it was credible.

[demiSe]

Yeah its about time someone corrected the info inside a thread that no one has looked at in over 4 years. A very necessary and sensible bump. Moron.

[fanatiq]

I'm the moron yet you posted the information.... You know close to crap about marvel. Not to mention you linked to this thread less than 2 weeks ago idiot. Don't get mad cuz you were wrong and I called it.

"I'm only posting this because someone linked this thread as if it was credible. "

I was talking about you idiot. BTW finesse does the "demise" infinite better than you HAHAHAHAHA loser.

[demiSe]

Except I never linked to this thread, you dumb dickpurse. I knew it had outdated info. A friend of mine found it and linked but he never said it was credible. And wow you know more about marvel now than I did 4+ years ago. Who cares? You're still a faggot and nobody likes you. Kill yourself.

[J360]

that was one of the most pointless bumps ive ever seen, and to add to it hes here to prove hes right =/

[SNAKESHOTPEOPLE]

I'm the moron yet you posted the information.... You know close to crap about marvel. Not to mention you linked to this thread less than 2 weeks ago idiot. Don't get mad cuz you were wrong and I called it.

"I'm only posting this because someone linked this thread as if it was credible. "

I was talking about you idiot. BTW finesse does the "demise" infinite better than you HAHAHAHAHA loser.

Shut up, Demise AKA Sentinel Kid knows more than you ever will about this game. Go back to the EVO thread and try making a bigger post to get accepted by the community because that sad cry for attention didn't work the first time.

[fanatiq]

Shut up, Demise AKA Sentinel Kid knows more than you ever will about this game. Go back to the EVO thread and try making a bigger post to get accepted by the community because that sad cry for attention didn't work the first time.

If I wanted to get accepted by the community I wouldn't be talking trash to fanatiq jr and blazing flow would I?
2nd demise reposted his same false information in another thread not too long ago.
3rd j360 found the thread and reposted it.
4th I'm only tryig to help people not get confused about marvel properties since obviously demise is.
5th I knew this a LONG time ago. When I referred to the guy who helped me get good at marvel, I was referring to someone that taught me back in 2000. I knew then and will ALWAYS know more about the game just cuz I played so much back in 2k4-5.
Demise you suck, I would play you for money any day. Ur ironman is trash, as is your sentinel. Nice combos but can't play for crap like Magnetro (no offense).

[SNAKESHOTPEOPLE]

If I wanted to get accepted by the community I wouldn't be talking trash to fanatiq jr and blazing flow would I?
2nd demise reposted his same false information in another thread not too long ago.
3rd j360 found the thread and reposted it.
4th I'm only tryig to help people not get confused about marvel properties since obviously demise is.
5th I knew this a LONG time ago. When I referred to the guy who helped me get good at marvel, I was referring to someone that taught me back in 2000. I knew then and will ALWAYS know more about the game just cuz I played so much back in 2k4-5.
Demise you suck, I would play you for money any day. Ur ironman is trash, as is your sentinel. Nice combos but can't play for crap like Magnetro (no offense).

Well, I believe you're wrong here. Demise is a really good marvel player, as of lately, unfortunately, Sentinel Kid doesn't care for the game as much as he use to. Believe me, he is far away from sucking in this game. I can say that because I play him alot of times at the fair. You never played him let alone seen him played to be speaking like that.

[SNAKESHOTPEOPLE]

that was one of the most pointless bumps ive ever seen, and to add to it hes here to prove hes right =/

Your mother was one of the most pointless bumps ive ever seen, and to add to it hes here to prove hes right =/

[J360]

the reason i posted it was to show demise that it was still up, thats it, i dont see anyone else posting or asking questions about it so i dont see how anyone would take a 4 years old thread seriously when there is a MUCH more recent thread up about the same topic.

[piponaz]

Demise you suck, I would play you for money any day. Ur ironman is trash, as is your sentinel. Nice combos but can't play for crap like Magnetro (no offense).

wow, that's just disrepectful. no need for that^. no wonder you don't get respect.
get over it and move on forward.

[fanatiq]

Well, I believe you're wrong here. Demise is a really good marvel player, as of lately, unfortunately, Sentinel Kid doesn't care for the game as much as he use to. Believe me, he is far away from sucking in this game. I can say that because I play him alot of times at the fair. You never played him let alone seen him played to be speaking like that.

Well I believe I have a PROGRAM PAD, and I've tested it and its right. If you go into fly, then out of fly you can always attack, as long as you didn't do an attack in fly. Who sucks is all relative. I guarantee you he wouldn't get top 5 at evo WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!.

Trolling aside, I was just correcting the information. I don't even see why he got offended. It's like say I post some false information in a thread right now about how illegal immigrants can vote. At the time I'm pretty well known and people consider me a pretty credible source. Then 3 years later some starts speaking about the subject again. I again post the same information in the new thread and cite the previous 3 year old thread as a reference, or elude to it. Then someone comes behind me and actually links the thread with the same false information. If it was false then, false now, is being cited now, then it needs to be corrected unless you want a redundant marvel community that can't fight against someone with 1 assist.

piponaz, if telling someone they suck (who really isn't good outside of a specific combo) loses respect, than marvel community in general wouldn't have no respect. You know how many people tell potter and deus they suck? You know how many people think smooth viper and wigfall suck? You know how many people think blazing flo and infinite are the worse players in the marvel community? C'mon man just get out of here with that. I don't need respect from marvel community. I just need their money and top 5 got me some of that.

[demiSe]

Once again, all the unfly-less setups I posted in the newer thread are legit and easy to do by hand, which makes them more or less practical. If the mechanics behind it are slightly different and you can accomplish more with a program pad thats fine. But it doesnt really help anyone without a program pad anyway.

Also, almost anyone can get top 8 with the help of an easy bracket and some msp luck so dont be that quick to rule me out.

If we're ever on the same coast I'll mm you for sure. Until then all this shit talk is a waste of my time.

[fanatiq]

Once again, all the unfly-less setups I posted in the newer thread are legit and easy to do by hand, which makes them more or less practical. If the mechanics behind it are slightly different and you can accomplish more with a program pad thats fine. But it doesnt really help anyone without a program pad anyway.

Also, almost anyone can get top 8 with the help of an easy bracket and some msp luck so dont be that quick to rule me out.

If we're ever on the same coast I'll mm you for sure. Until then all this shit talk is a waste of my time.

Can we preemptively agree that it will be a first to 10 for 100?
I'm only telling you it has NOTHING to do with hits on the ground or any other extraneous factor. All that is pertinent is you don't attack in flight, so that you can attack while getting out of flight. Putting extraneous stipulations will only confuse people, or give them mental limitations that don't apply.

I.e. You can super jump cancel magneto's roundhouse 100% if you time it properly. Now if someone is asking how its done, and I go and tell them, one must be mid dash have already used an assist in the combo, and done an otg, then roundhouse and wait 11 frames (depending on spacing) and then sj. Sure it would work. It had nothing to do with any of the extraneous factors. Simply the fact that you timed the sj right.
You see the allegory? You don't have to hit them twice on the ground and cancel, you don't have to have had unfly previously, you don't have to fly a bunch of times or anything. Simply go into fly, and cancel out of fly making sure to hit the buttons precisely and you will get it.

Marvel is not revolved around luck. Furthermore there were other msp players like fanatiq jr. used msp, but I guess he just wasn't lucky? Honestly? Justin lost to yipes because yipes was lucky? Yipes beat sanford in the first to 10 cuz of luck? I mean think of what you're saying. Thats just superstitious and retarded. DPC beat my msp, cuz he's better than me with the team (at least for now cuz I'm not really practiced up) . It had NOTHING to do with luck. He mixed me up and thats that.

[demiSe]

Wrong. It DOES have something to do with those prerequisites b/c the setup than involves sjcing two normals requires no program pad precision whereas the setup where you just sj does. And why is it that njing and fly unfly attacking is so much easier than sj fly unfly attacking (if the latter even works since I dont have a program pad to test it with, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt). Why is it the case? Please tell me since you claim to know so much about marvel.

Msp matches have a lot to do with luck. Yipes being the exception, as he is the ONLY consistent msp player in the history of marvel. A poor player has a much better chance of defeating a better player with msp than with any other team (counters aside). For example, I was very close to sending jwong to losers at the last w2z tourney. Did I outplay him? No. Did I get lucky with msp? Yes. Msp rewards guessing (as opposed to smart reactionary play) more than any other team in marvel. But seeing as how thats the only team you know how to use, it's only natural that you try to deny it.

[SNAKESHOTPEOPLE]

Well I believe I have a PROGRAM PAD, and I've tested it and its right. If you go into fly, then out of fly you can always attack, as long as you didn't do an attack in fly. Who sucks is all relative. I guarantee you he wouldn't get top 5 at evo WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!.

When I said I believe you're wrong, I meant about demise being trash since you don't know him, not about the main topic.

[J360]

Canceling the mid has everything to do with it, canceling a mid on the ground, is another way of gaining 1 rep of unfly if you dont normal jump, it applies to IM/WM as well, and what ever other character you bring into the mix that i haven't mentioned already. If it seems like hes just adding in extras that have nothing to do with it, and all you need to do is fly/unfly from the ground to gain the fake unfly, then attempt it in match to see how consistent it can be in the heat of things, or even better link me to a video where this occurs.

There is one hole in your argument about the unfly that i do not understand, i would just like you to explain this to me. If it is always possible to do one action (other than a special move) after unflying 100% of the time, and you say that the reason it doesn't happen is because people usually buffer an attack into unfly, correct?

Why is it that, if i normal jump with sent and can unfly without buffering an attack easily, why is it that when i super jump then fly, i take my time when i unfly, i cant attack?

Does it get harder to not buffer an attack when i unfly?

I dont get it because in both cases i never buffer an attack, and if i do why do i get it in normal jump mode 100% of the time?

[merdoc]

Fagnatiq sucks the end. If you want it first to ten for 100.we can do it at evo west or evo world it don't matter, you fucking sad excuse for a marvel player.

oh yeah, hi josh,hi sentinel kid,hi snake :D

[J360]

That information is false. You can ALWAYS, do an attack after flying, its just that often times you BUFFER out of fly. in mvc2 you can enter in jab and the fierce the next frame while still holding jab and it counts as a dash. Likewise, you can press qcb + short and then roundhouse the next frame while in fly and it will count as an fly though the game still counts the short and denies your right to another attack.

I remember trying like 10 times like "DUDE I GAVE MYSELF UNFLY" to the guy that helped me get good at marvel. I would go in and out of fly like 23984 times then go into fly and unfly short, and it worked sometimes its just really hard not to buffer. I have a program pad and its consistent if you sj go into fly, then unfly and press short, it will come out.

I'm only posting this because someone linked this thread as if it was credible.

I'm the moron yet you posted the information.... You know close to crap about marvel. Not to mention you linked to this thread less than 2 weeks ago idiot. Don't get mad cuz you were wrong and I called it.

"I'm only posting this because someone linked this thread as if it was credible. "

I was talking about you idiot. BTW finesse does the "demise" infinite better than you HAHAHAHAHA loser.

Well I believe I have a PROGRAM PAD, and I've tested it and its right. If you go into fly, then out of fly you can always attack, as long as you didn't do an attack in fly. Who sucks is all relative. I guarantee you he wouldn't get top 5 at evo WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!.

Trolling aside, I was just correcting the information. I don't even see why he got offended. It's like say I post some false information in a thread right now about how illegal immigrants can vote. At the time I'm pretty well known and people consider me a pretty credible source. Then 3 years later some starts speaking about the subject again. I again post the same information in the new thread and cite the previous 3 year old thread as a reference, or elude to it. Then someone comes behind me and actually links the thread with the same false information. If it was false then, false now, is being cited now, then it needs to be corrected unless you want a redundant marvel community that can't fight against someone with 1 assist.

piponaz, if telling someone they suck (who really isn't good outside of a specific combo) loses respect, than marvel community in general wouldn't have no respect. You know how many people tell potter and deus they suck? You know how many people think smooth viper and wigfall suck? You know how many people think blazing flo and infinite are the worse players in the marvel community? C'mon man just get out of here with that. I don't need respect from marvel community. I just need their money and top 5 got me some of that.

Can we preemptively agree that it will be a first to 10 for 100?
I'm only telling you it has NOTHING to do with hits on the ground or any other extraneous factor. All that is pertinent is you don't attack in flight, so that you can attack while getting out of flight. Putting extraneous stipulations will only confuse people, or give them mental limitations that don't apply.

I.e. You can super jump cancel magneto's roundhouse 100% if you time it properly. Now if someone is asking how its done, and I go and tell them, one must be mid dash have already used an assist in the combo, and done an otg, then roundhouse and wait 11 frames (depending on spacing) and then sj. Sure it would work. It had nothing to do with any of the extraneous factors. Simply the fact that you timed the sj right.
You see the allegory? You don't have to hit them twice on the ground and cancel, you don't have to have had unfly previously, you don't have to fly a bunch of times or anything. Simply go into fly, and cancel out of fly making sure to hit the buttons precisely and you will get it.

Marvel is not revolved around luck. Furthermore there were other msp players like fanatiq jr. used msp, but I guess he just wasn't lucky? Honestly? Justin lost to yipes because yipes was lucky? Yipes beat sanford in the first to 10 cuz of luck? I mean think of what you're saying. Thats just superstitious and retarded. DPC beat my msp, cuz he's better than me with the team (at least for now cuz I'm not really practiced up) . It had NOTHING to do with luck. He mixed me up and thats that.

QFT!

[Adam Warlock]

I know this shit is old but since it was linked and bumped... did I miss something? is the argument that you can fly XX unfly and attack or is it something else? I'm pretty sure you can always attack after unflying if you don't do any attacks prior. That's not unfly mode though.

[piponaz]

I know this shit is old but since it was linked and bumped... did I miss something? is the argument that you can fly XX unfly and attack or is it something else? I'm pretty sure you can always attack after unflying if you don't do any attacks prior. That's not unfly mode though.

iirc, fanatiq was correcting somebody about being able to attack after a fly xx unfly which lead to that.

i was only involved when i reacted on the way he's showing his sentiments.

[J360]

you can only attack after unflying in nj mode, but if you store an attack from nj. fly unly, and then super jump fly, when you unfly again you can attack once, but it requires you to store a move.

[demiSe]

Right.

To elaborate, you can store normal attacks off any of the following setups:


nj xx fly, do no normals while in flight (specials like rp and reflying are fine), unfly and you can block or do normal attack

or

2 ground normals xx fly, same thing as above

or

2 ground normals xx sj (no normals) xx fly, same shit

So say something like nj, no normal attacks, land, (sj, no normals, land), sj, fly, no normals, unfly normal attack works.

Time to close thread.

[Adam Warlock]

Good shit. I never knew that and it's true.