Kim stat's.....!?

[TheGatekeeper]

can any body help me with kim stats... video's..... combos... anything that you got....?

[FatalFuryD]

There are plenty of info on the other kim threads..
ah well fuckit here's some basics

-Most popular groove:
C,A,S,N

-standing short/lk is a good poke.
-d,d+k hits low and it can be cancelled into his rush super.
-crossover is jumping roundhouse/hk
-j. forward/mk and j.fierce/hp are good air-to-air
-most popular b/b is crouching jab/lp, link crouching strong/mp, then qcb+k
-repeating tigerknee(superjump cancelled move) midair qcf+k is a decent guard breaker, some antiair gets stuffed by this move, but you cannot combo from the move and the move itself does no damage.
-his ground normals suck. Only decent ones are c.mp and s.lk, other ones either have too much lag/startup or no prorieties.

[TheGatekeeper]

anybody who got the video let me know i wanna see it ok thanks guy's

[FatalFuryD]

http://namonaki.com/games/tutorials.html

OK, go there and check video number 13 of the series.
Absolutely recommended.

Antiair cc(a must know):
d,u+mk x 2 then d,u+p x n, super

[TheGatekeeper]

thanks for the help..!

[thehurricane]

Kim is the greatest dude.
I hate it when he dies. g i was pissed off when they made him die

[FINAL SHOWDOWN]

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=8015



Theres my old thread that had a lotta crap.... probably pretty hard to read though. But thats what you get for high school drop out.

[ThaHungryWolf]

when ur life is blinking when ur using s-groove charge up and do qcf qcf k the catch him on the way down with qcb hcf k:cool:

[FatalFuryD]

Pretty sure you can do lvl 3 qcfx2+k, lvl 1 qcfx2+k then jump qcf,hcb+k also in S groove.

[Ryumexicano]

How the hell do you guys do that air kick with kim? The one that hits like 3 times in the corner. I have seen it in videos and I can't do that. Somebody told me some time ago and can't remember how to do it. You have to hold the buttons or something right? Does anybody have Kim's infinite on video? Or does anybody know how to do it in here?

Thanks

[FINAL SHOWDOWN]

look in the thread i posted....

it has all semi infinites, and his true infinte.

[Ryumexicano]

I know you mentioned not to ask you again about Kim's infinite, but I have a question. You just do the power LV.2 and then cancel with the moves you post it? Wich power are you talking about, I think I didn't see which power (or I was too lazy to find it). IF you can help me that's cool. If not, thanks though.

That infinite seems damn hard! NObody has done it on video?



Ryumexicano

[FINAL SHOWDOWN]

your in C groove if your talking about the true infinite. And yea just do what i posted and it works. as for videos i dunno... sai-rec had a video of it and i made a video of it. But i dunno if anyone would have those videos.

[Ryumexicano]

That infinite is pretty cool. I'll see if I can do it. How long did it take u to do it? Did you discover that infinite? That kim guy has his secrets huh? By the way, I don't want to be a dick, but do you happen to know Kyosuke's infinite?
I have seen it, but I guess that is not the true infinite.

Thanks a lot man.

Ryumexicano

[50mOrEcEnTz]

Originally posted by Ryumexicano
That infinite is pretty cool. I'll see if I can do it. How long did it take u to do it? Did you discover that infinite? That kim guy has his secrets huh? By the way, I don't want to be a dick, but do you happen to know Kyosuke's infinite?
I have seen it, but I guess that is not the true infinite.

Thanks a lot man.

Ryumexicano there is a big ass japanese 5on5 CvS2 tourny from awhile back....i think they were playing c groove rugal/kim and somebody....the file is about 500 sumtin MB's and you can find it on direct connect. basically...sagat small hopped and kim rolled at the same time (sagat small hopped towards the corner), then kim did a c.lk xx lv2 kick ur ass up in the sky super, then he proceeded to stomp his ass (infinite)...it looked real real good, because the damage didn't seem to scale correctly.

[FINAL SHOWDOWN]

No i didnt discover it sai-rec told me about it, i just found a differnt method of how to do it.

Umm how long did it take me to do it? i dunno not to long i guess. shrug with practice im sure you will get it...

as for kyosuke he has a infinite in S-groove, and has a semi infinite in C groove. Um both are pretty hard to do imo. But you can get some fairly damageing combos useing like the idea from them semi easily...

[Ryumexicano]

Final showdown, no offense, but Clean you damn inbox! Well, I just had this question.

I can do the set up and the first 2 hits and from there I can't connect the third hit. Do you have an Idea why it doesn't connect? I try to do it to blanka and in the corner. Does it have to be in a specific place(mid screen, corner etc....)? Before I do the third hit Blanka is on the ground falling. Is it extremely fast?

I got direct connect. DO you have an idea who might have the video?


Thanks man.


I am just getting crazy with this combo.

[Ryumexicano]

I still can't do this damn infinite, please help! Is there roll cancel to be done with the infinite? I can't get that infinite down, mannnnnnnnnnn. 3rd hit won't connect. I tried it the Sai-rec way, and the FInal way, but no luck.



Help!


Ryumexicano

[Gwai Lo ½]

How would roll cancel solve anything?

[FINAL SHOWDOWN]

lol... umm....


yea RCing wouldnt do anything...


umm as for my pm box... sorry thats not really my fault umm almost all my pms are deleted i only have like 5 so i dunno what the problem is. Anyway umm not sure what to say about the infinite...


If you have aim and like a DC next to the cpu or something i can try and walk you through it i suppose.


my aim is...

final shodown

[Admiral Akbar]

Everyone is always talking about how Kim has good C Cancels. I know he has level 2 rush super xx lvl 1 air super, but that doesnt even do as much damage as a level 3 rush super, so why use it? What other cancels would he have?

[FINAL SHOWDOWN]

Its been awhile since ive played so i dont remember damage specificly but umm im quite sure that level 2 to level 1 does more then a level 3. Are you cancling at the last hit? Or doing the hit before? maybe thats why its doing less damage. cuz ahh like i said its been awhile since i played but it shouldnt do less damage.

anyway level 2 to level 1 air super works on bigger/fat characters anywhere on the screen, and works on all characters as long as your near the corner.

If vs regular type characters yea you probably would have to cancle the hit before last so it might do less....


anywho umm level 2s in genral are a better idea obviously then level 3s beacuse umm you only risked a level 2 instead of the level 3. And you still have a level to work off of. And go for mix ups etc. In most cases whatever the level 3 can do the level 2 can also be used for. So theres really not much reason to use levels 3.




Ahhh plus besides his infinite(which obviously dizzys and kills) theres also another hrmm gosh who knows 55ish maybe higher stun combo he has with his level 2s. Its something rush super then you cancle to air super or maybe you only have to do hishou kyaku(qcf+k in the air) and land and then right when you land you do down up+hk. you basicly charge for the move while the other crap is happening. Now that i think about it maybe it is with the super....



hrmm sorry i cant help more i had a thread at one time just go look for it it had a some crap in it with cancles etc so i probably talked about it there or somethign....

[DevilJin 01]

.Originally posted by FatalFuryD
There are plenty of info on the other kim threads..
ah well fuckit here's some basics

-Most popular groove:
C,A,S,N

[B]-standing short/lk is a good poke.
-d,d+k hits low and it can be cancelled into his rush super.
-crossover is jumping roundhouse/hk
j. forward/mk and j.fierce/hp are good air-to-air
-most popular b/b is crouching jab/lp, link crouching strong/mp, then qcb+k
-repeating tigerknee(superjump cancelled move) midair qcf+k is a decent guard breaker, some antiair gets stuffed by this move, but you cannot combo from the move and the move itself does no damage.
-his ground normals suck. Only decent ones are c.mp and s.lk, other ones either have too much lag/startup or no prorieties.

Actually, Kim has quite a few good standing pokes (I wasn't knowledgeable of this until I was taught by Yong Hav). s.RH is definitely one of my favorites. Despite the fact that it has a bit of start up, its hit frames start even before the kick actually fully extends. So as long as the kick is halfway out you'll still have the potential to knock out a lot of stuff. Very nice priority. Beats out just about any normal. So if you throw this out and Blanka/Sagat try a c.FP to cancel as long as your s.RH is out there first (just about ready to connect with the opponent) it'll beat them out cleanly. Very good guard crush potential and goes into his right foot stance. Also combos on counter hit into his right foot stance FP which causes a knockdown. Another s.RH tidbit...no character in the game can duck under this poke so if they start getting turtley, just poke away and bring down that guard meter.

s.FP is another good one. Characters with larger crouch animations like Zangief, Blanka and Sagat can't crouch under this either. It's like the quicker, less damaging alternative to s.RH. So against bigger characters switching up between s.FP and s.RH can really put on some pressure. s.FP has awesome priority and takes out a lot of stuff. Very good whiff punisher (means if someone misses an poke/special move, it's easy to punish with). Will also take out Sagat/Blanka c.FP's clean as long as it connects before their c.FP has a chance to come out. Meaning as long as you fire it out they have to be really careful about throwing one. Does ok GC and mixed in with s.RH can really work on the guard meter.

j.FP essentially is an awesome air move. I learned from Chemistren how this beats out all normal AA's. Including Geese/Iori c.FP's. Very good air to air move as well.

Kim's best AA's aside from his AA specials are s.FK and c.FP. s.FK is probably your best option in most situations. Has good vertical height and beats out just about any jump in AA as long as you time it right. c.FP is good as well since it has crazy height, though the priority on it is a bit sketchy. Used in conjunction with s.FK though it can really make the person scared to jump in on you. Works well as an early AA. Close up s.SK works well in a pinch.

Um...c.FK (c.forward/medium kick) isn't as bad of a normal as most people put it out to be. It may not be as fast as Terry's or Geese's but, it still has decent priority and combos into his qcb+P and d,d+K. Which the latter combo (c.FK to d,d+K) has nasty GC potential. Meaning even if blocked you're pretty much safe as long as you don't go into right foot stance and does great GC damage. c.SP to d,d+K has a similar effect. Not to mention if this combo connects he can go straight into his qcb,db,f+K super. c.RK (sweep) has really good priority and comes out almost instantly. Recovery is decent as well.

[dialupsucky]

stand fierce does not beat sagat and blankas ducking fierce clean. Come on guy...... ¬¬

[DevilJin 01]

Well...maybe not necessarily "clean" though as long as you set it up it can stop a c.fierce before it fully comes out. Which is good enough.

I say we should get caliagent back in here for confirmation.:D

[dialupsucky]

I use to play the game a lot 2 years ago, I know dude.


Why dont you just go in try in training mode to see how cleanly kims stand fierce beats duck fierce from sagat or blanka.

Dunno not saying kims move isnt good vs sagat or blanka, cuz yea they cant block it. But if you are going into a match thinking that your stand fierce is gonna be there duck. They are sadly mistaken.

[caliagent#3]

Well kim's s.fierce doesn't really beat sagat's c.fierce per se. It will beat it if u hit him b4 his hitting frames come out (as with any other normal). BUT maybe the reason u r beating sagat with the s.fierce is becuase of the way u bait him into doing it. I usually do: c.lk, c.lp, s.lk, s.fierce as a poke string. Usually people are mashing and i get the counter hit, so that might be y u r beating his s.fierce Deviljin. If u match c.fierce up to kim's s.fierce then kim will lose. Kim's s.strong beats sagat's s.fierce, and his c.fierce iirc. But yeah, i think kim is one of the better if not best mid tier character to go up against the top tiers. His really really bad match ups are vega and chun.