Street fighter EX thread(EX, EX+, Ex+@, EX2, EX2+, EX3) [Archive] - Page 6

bigpoppa

09-30-2005, 12:19 PM

Jester - my bad......after the c.Mk you go right into the psycho crusher(using MP). IF the crusher connects( if you land the c.MK then the crusher should land), you have to pause for a second( wait until the opponent just about hits the ground, then perform a c.WP, IMMEDIATELY do the strong attack(MP+MK), wait a second then perform a scissor kick

like i said, i was doing this training mode, so it might not work in tag battle. i dont know if that explains it better.

EDIT:i just tried it out again in BOTH training and tag modes. it ONLY works in training mode. cause i just noticed i had the juggling setting "ON". i then tried it in tag battle, and it didnt work

ShinjiGohan

09-30-2005, 12:40 PM

was the juggling on? and I'm still not sure what c.WP is... oh WP is weak punch isn't it? -slaps self in head-

BudaFuka

09-30-2005, 12:41 PM

Most likely.

ShinjiGohan

09-30-2005, 12:48 PM

bigpoppa

09-30-2005, 12:49 PM

Shinji, i did have juggling on. i should have known. cause that combo would be MEGA cheap in tag battle. you can keep doing it until their strength is gone.

what are some of your guys's favorite combos?

ShinjiGohan

09-30-2005, 12:58 PM

Yea, well keep in mind if you're timing is right and you're spacing is right it is remotely possible to supercancel a psycho cannon upon landing (well at least for Bison 2, and perhaps regular bison).

Darun: j.hp, c.mp, c.mp, hp.lariat, super indra bridge, walk under, j.hp,s.hp, super indra bridge, j.hp,s.hp, super indra bridge, j.hp,s.hp, super indra bridge, Gangis DDT (air throw)

BudaFuka

09-30-2005, 01:06 PM

Yea, keep in mind (for the matches at MWC) I haven't had much match play experience, and had Jester, Gen, Sensei or Nekki been there they would have faired far better and had been owning the competition far more than I was.

Well I tried to pick up the game a while ago, but then realized that there was no competition in the immediate area and gave up (I mean to only machine I've ever seen was an EX2 machine at Nickel City in Northbrook, and to my knowledge the right stick doesn't even work on it anymore, or it was completly removed altogether).

So forgive me if i jizz myself when I see someone beat my ass with a nice combo. But hey, nice to see some ppl in IL actually take the game seriously.

Competition?, I don't remember anybody faring to well against you there.

ShinjiGohan

09-30-2005, 01:11 PM

Jeron did well against me. As did justin wong.

and I forgive you lol

BudaFuka

09-30-2005, 01:24 PM

JWong didn't just walk away during the fight did he?, I heard he did that a couple of times.:lame:

ShinjiGohan

09-30-2005, 01:33 PM

No what had happened was that I was in a middle of a set against Jeron when he had a match in one of the tournaments. So he temperarily walked away. Around that time Justin asked if he could play and I said yes. After about 3 matches Jeron came back and asked Justin if he could continue playing. With that justin got up and left.

BudaFuka

09-30-2005, 01:55 PM

Oh, I forgot got who it was with, But JWong just got up and left during a KOF fight.

My friends were flaming him all night.

ShinjiGohan

09-30-2005, 02:08 PM

well whomever it was, it isn't any of my concern. and I got no beef with him.

ShinjiGohan

10-01-2005, 12:29 AM

Though it seems that you're in Aurora. Which IIRC isn't far from Joliet. So should both of you be interested, we could meet up and get some tag matches going.

BudaFuka

10-01-2005, 01:57 PM

Though it seems that you're in Aurora. Which IIRC isn't far from Joliet. So should both of you be interested, we could meet up and get some tag matches going.

Yea, and apparently a couple of my friends already know you. So hell, we'd love to get in on that tag team action.:tup:

DRAGONTHEBOMB

10-01-2005, 10:28 PM

I don't like the EX games, the 3D graphics could've been Way Better. Also I didn't like the Characters

ShinjiGohan

10-02-2005, 01:01 AM

Yea, and apparently a couple of my friends already know you. So hell, we'd love to get in on that tag team action.:tup:

Oh hell, I'm famous ^_^ Do you want me to sign your copy of EX3 :D

But anyway set up a time and place perferably 3-4 weeks in advance so I can fiish the rest of my vacation days for this year lol. Nothing like getting paid to play EX.

To the other fella, I ain't got no comment for ya lol

BudaFuka

10-02-2005, 12:38 PM

Let me talk to my buddies, and we'll set something up. We'll let you know in advance.

And can you sign it out to PSYCHO MAAADNEEES!!!

ShinjiGohan

10-02-2005, 12:59 PM

lol I can try

ShinjiGohan

10-03-2005, 09:29 PM

Heh perhaps we'd have a chance to set up a tournament or something. Or get you all some training for some possible EX2+ tournament in wisconsin or something.

Richard

10-06-2005, 08:31 AM

Arika has announced a couple years ago they wouldn't make another street fighter ex game...
A chief at Capcom said they were interested in putting a followup game out...

ShinjiGohan

10-06-2005, 11:37 AM

out of curiousity when and where was that stated?

1/2Man1/2God

10-06-2005, 11:42 AM

i don't know when that was stated but i'm sure that arika isn't that good of a gaming distributor not to use what they had with capcom. I liked every sfex but the third one was alittle sloppy and easy! I had ever new character in like 5 mins. It seemed like Arika tried to rush this game out so that they could end there contract with capcom without making there last sf game something better than it was! i love the ex series though! I wish capcom had made the game on there own so they could get another one out! just of curiosity does andyone have any info about a new SFA (alpha) why not make an SF alpha 4.

Richard

10-06-2005, 11:55 AM

The "tried to rush this game" becauise it had to be a launch title for the PS2.

Anyway, it was said some time late 2002, in CVG.
Tatsuya Minami: "I want to try a sequel to the Street Fighter EX series. It's not really an announcement, but I think I want to try." ~ "as Capcom we would like to try."

Put it this way- they aren't gonna make any more new 2D games (not commercially viable), so it's either 3D SF or no SF.

ShinjiGohan

10-06-2005, 12:32 PM

perhaps their attempt was Capcom Fighting All Stars which ended up being canceled.

Evilryu2K2

10-06-2005, 02:26 PM

perhaps their attempt was Capcom Fighting All Stars which ended up being canceled.

i agree... though i never did knew why they canceled it... anyone knows a reason? :confused:

ShinjiGohan

10-07-2005, 12:20 AM

best I could surmise was all of the negative comments about it based from the pics and videos.

The Death Knight

10-07-2005, 08:41 AM

ShinjiGohan

10-07-2005, 10:37 AM

Supposively he feeds off of strong people, so if Akuma dies, he gets stronger, if Kairi dies then he gets stronger still.

bowiegranap

10-07-2005, 05:02 PM

Is EX+A canon btw? The endings don't seem to fit the storylines of some chars, & I'm still puzzled on who Garuda actually is & what his goals are. His ending in EX+A makes me think that he has something to do with the killing intent.

Nope. There's a couple of threads at the Sf4comic section about the canon nature of SFEX (none at all).

ShinjiGohan

10-12-2005, 11:14 AM

hey col did you get your book yet? and speaking of books, udon translated that SF Eternal Challenge supposively.

1/2Man1/2God

10-16-2005, 01:28 PM

2006 T4 (working title) Xbox 360
2005 Technique Cute (working title) PSP
2005 TGM-K PSP
2005 Tetris: The Grandmaster Ace Xbox 360
2005 Tsubasa Chronicle DS
2005 Tetris The Grand Master 3 Terror-Instinct Arcade Games
2004 The Nightmare of Druaga PlayStation 2
2004 Espgaluda PlayStation 2
2003 DoDonPachi Dai-Oujou PlayStation 2
2003 Mega Man Network Transmission GameCube
2002 Technic Beat PlayStation 2
2002 Everblue 2 PlayStation 2
2001 Taikyoku Mahjong: Net de Run! PlayStation 2
2001 Everblue PlayStation 2
2001 Technictix PlayStation 2
2000 Tetris with Card Captor Sakura: Eternal Heart PlayStation
2000 Street Fighter EX3 PlayStation 2
2000 CardCaptor Sakura: Crow Card Magic PlayStation
1999 Street Fighter EX2 Plus PlayStation
1999 Anime Chick Story 1: Card Captor Sakura PlayStation
1998 Tetris: The Grand Master Arcade Games
1997 Street Fighter EX Plus Alpha PlayStation
1997 Street Fighter EX Plus Arcade Games
1996 Street Fighter EX Arcade Games
Unknown Street Fighter EX 2 Plus Arcade Games
Unknown Street Fighter EX 2

after reviewing arika's resume...why did capcom get involved with them in the first place. Not has Arika not made alot of games but they haven't made any very good ones, not counting the EX series. Capcom would have been better of making it themselves. They arent that bad at making 3-d fighters Plasma Sword and Project Justice were pretty good! The Capcom Fighting All-Stars game looked pretty promising as well! Hell if Capcom put out a piece of shit game like Maximo or Megaman X8 why not give CFA a shot!

ShinjiGohan

10-17-2005, 12:27 AM

of the games that I've played made by ARIKA, I've loved them.

But for why capcom got involved with ARIKA, the founder of ARIKA was the creator of SF, and SFEX was made because of a lawsuit since the creator of SF should be entitled to make his own SF sequel or something to that effect.

jae hoon

10-20-2005, 06:34 PM

I just bought EX 3 today so im bumping this thread.

bigpoppa

10-20-2005, 08:03 PM

i havent played EX3 for a few weeks now. i was curious as to how you unlock Evil Ryu and Bison 2.

ShinjiGohan

10-21-2005, 01:16 AM

There are two ways to unlock Evil Ryu and Bison 2. The first way (aka the real way :P) is to get all of the silver medals (which will unlock Bison 2 for original mode), and get all of the gold medals (unlocks Evil Ryu for all modes). Or if you looking to get them ASAP and not bother with the medals, then beat the game on normal 8 times with Bison and beat the game 8 times with Ryu which will unlock Bison 2 and Evil Ryu respectively.

Also lemme know when you're free so I could drive on down, however keep in mind that I typically work weekends, so I'm the opposite of most people lol

Jae Hoon, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. But keep in mind that EX3 is a tag game and is obviously most fun with multiple friends to play against.

jae hoon

10-22-2005, 12:06 PM

Well right now I dont know shit about EX 3, the damn thing didnt even come with an inscruction manual if nothing else. All that I have found is that you can seem to super into super.

Infested Jester

10-22-2005, 12:24 PM

Well right now I dont know shit about EX 3, the damn thing didnt even come with an inscruction manual if nothing else. All that I have found is that you can seem to super into super.

If you need help with specific characters or help in general lemme know.

jae hoon

10-22-2005, 12:30 PM

Well right now just the basics would be nice. Like I said IDK shit, I could be newb about it to and go the easy way and say Ryu and Ken.

Infested Jester

10-22-2005, 12:50 PM

Well right now just the basics would be nice. Like I said IDK shit, I could be newb about it to and go the easy way and say Ryu and Ken.

I emailed you a rough copy of a general EX3 FAQ I never finished, should be of some use. Once you get the hang of the engine I'll try and elaborate on specifics you might have.

EDIT: You have a new email adress? Got a "failure to send" reply.

jae hoon

10-22-2005, 01:01 PM

Alright thanks man, I wont have time to look at it till late tonight though. Work is a bitch

GouShRyuKen

10-23-2005, 01:02 PM

someone have footages of Evil Ryu and Bison 2

Infested Jester

10-23-2005, 01:50 PM

someone have footages of Evil Ryu and Bison 2

I did a Bison II/Shin Bison combo vid with Shinji, for some reason I can't access his streamload vids so if you wanna hit me up on AIM just PM me your handle and I can send it to you.

As for Evil Ryu we never did a match or combo vid of just him, only as part of a mix featuring him.

ShinjiGohan

10-23-2005, 09:30 PM

the regular site is down, but the streamload is iffy at the moment. But if you wanna try it goto
http://www.streamload.com/ShinjiGohan I can get to the inbox but having problems getting to the hosting page, so it could be more server work on their end :-\ hopefully it'll be solved soon.

ADarkSilhouette

11-14-2005, 07:35 PM

Im curious as to what makes sharon top in ex2+? Can anyone hook me up with some strats and combos? I used to use her a lot not even knowing of her top tier status.

mr. newbie

11-15-2005, 08:06 PM

I emailed you a rough copy of a general EX3 FAQ I never finished, should be of some use. Once you get the hang of the engine I'll try and elaborate on specifics you might have.

EDIT: You have a new email adress? Got a "failure to send" reply.

can i have it spectrexcwk@hotmail.com

ya this is old but i loled when i saw mr t in the back of one stage. this game have any nice glicthes? i'll try to read some posts before this one. just got back into the game.

i've been trying to do something with 2 chars doing specails at the same time but the best effect i got was seeing sims flame during nanase's meteor.:xeye:

Infested Jester

11-15-2005, 08:30 PM

can i have it spectrexcwk@hotmail.com

ya this is old but i loled when i saw mr t in the back of one stage. this game have any nice glicthes? i'll try to read some posts before this one. just got back into the game.

i've been trying to do something with 2 chars doing specails at the same time but the best effect i got was seeing sims flame during nanase's meteor.:xeye:

Sent, also if you want any specific help on any characters or teams lemme know.

ShinjiGohan

11-16-2005, 02:02 AM

Im curious as to what makes sharon top in ex2+? Can anyone hook me up with some strats and combos? I used to use her a lot not even knowing of her top tier status.

I was never much of a sharon fan so I can't give many tips on her.

Best I could say would be to practice your excels, and mimic vics' sharon in the hongkong vids on my site for EX2+.

ShinjiGohan

11-16-2005, 02:18 PM

btw updated website. finished all of the movelists and added a neat funtion to the EX3 one.

JeRon

11-16-2005, 08:01 PM

Im curious as to what makes sharon top in ex2+? Can anyone hook me up with some strats and combos? I used to use her a lot not even knowing of her top tier status.

What makes any other good character Top Tier. Damage, footsies, AA. In Sharons case what makes her top to be more specific is that in terms of footsies she's amongst the best in the game. Low foward is very fast and is great to utilize as it beats out almost every low limb in the game and can be buffered into super upon reaction. Standing Roundhouse as well. Low Foward, Standing Roundhouse thats all you need for footsies. Sharon is fairly fast so she can get good random jump in's at times for a crossup which is also really good. Jump foward (crossup), low foward, qcf+p (double), Super (qcbx2 p) or Kick super. General Sharon combo that does good damage is Low Foward, double elbow, qcbx2+p. I forgot the actaul names of all her moves but you get me. Low Fierce for Anti-Air. Dash grab is good too. Its pretty solid if you do it on surprise and randomly but also the best way to land it on the sneak is after 1 elbow qcf+p then cancel into it. Her kick grab gives her meter which is great. Her supers do REALLY good damage. qcb+p x2 serves as a great AA Super. Her Kick super can be canceled and followed up with a Excel Juggle. All in all of all of supers and arsenals the gun super is what makes her dangerous, once she activates it nothing is safe anymore. You cant throw fireballs at her you cant jump and you have to be very careful upon sticking out too many random limbs. Even at the cost of 1 meter to activate the gun it really doesnt matter because Sharon is always on the offensive so she gains meter fast anyway. My advice, activate and sit on gun.
All these things make Sharon Top in + not to mention her LV3 is really good as well. Up close for the unblockable version and it doesnt require Gun activation from distance or close.
Thats pretty much it. Sharon is one of my mains in 2 and 2+ next to Sim who btw is one of the characters who fights her very well. Dhalshim is also Top in 2.
Hope that helps ya out bud!

ShinjiGohan

11-16-2005, 11:38 PM

speaking of which, wheres my match tape :P

JeRon

11-17-2005, 12:10 AM

ShinjiGohan: Lost in the abyss of time! lol
Seriously I would like to have something to contribute to your site cause EX is cool. It wont be as interesting to see NY vs NY, but someone pushed me to propose a meet with some of your players in Jersey for EX3. Since none of us have ever played eachother if they are interested they came come to NY Anarcade one Friday or Saturday sometime in Jaurary or Februrary and we can get some casuals in, poosibly throw a tournament and he proposed a 4 on4 or 5 on 5 NY vs Jersey for money since most of the players are from Jersey? Am I right?
I dunno if you want like I said my friend came up with the idea and if they are willing to come to NY we can all set something up.We can record it and get it to you. Once again if theyre up for it!

Oh btw to ADarkSilhouette. Regarding Sharon, After knockdown, meaty back+fierce...low foward..double twist punch, Sharon Conclusion (qcbx2+p) is good for both good damage and meaty.

ShinjiGohan

11-17-2005, 01:17 AM

Well presently the only 2 people that should be in jersey ATM is jester and sensei. Nekki is supposively coming back but I have no idea on when that would be. And gen is pretty much lost (no idea of where he is and where he's going).

So that'd be 2 on 4-5. But I'll pass the idea to them (assuming they don't check this thread out... which isn't too likely).

Well there are probably other people from their group that drifted away (Doc, Binfdisk, rbdracula and whomever else that I might have seen once or twice at neoavalon when that site was still up). But chances aren't likely of them getting more people beyond jester and sensei. so roundrobin probably won't work, so likely just casuals or a regular tournament would have to do.

Though for that sharon combo, that should link regularly and the meaty isn't required, but will probably make it easier.

QOHLockheartDiva

11-20-2005, 08:14 PM

Does anyone think that SFEX3 would have gotten better sales if it wasn't a launch title for the ps2?

pEe wEe

11-20-2005, 09:52 PM

people play street fighter ex hardcore? wtf i been!:clap:

ShinjiGohan

11-21-2005, 12:04 AM

Does anyone think that SFEX3 would have gotten better sales if it wasn't a launch title for the ps2?

To be honest, it sold somewhat well. Better than most capcom fighting game sales for the PS2, and even the DC, at least last I checked. But would it have done a bit better if it didn't come out before TTT and DoA2? Probably.

Infested Jester

11-21-2005, 05:51 AM

Does anyone think that SFEX3 would have gotten better sales if it wasn't a launch title for the ps2?

It also didn't help that most magazines reviewed the Japanese version which is plagued with horrendous slow down making tags combos and traps nearly impossible. Most articles bombed it in scoring due to this and it was assumed that the polished US version was the same.

ShinjiGohan

11-21-2005, 07:21 PM

dang looks like there was an EX3 tournament in NYC a couple weeks ago...
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102782

no chance that any of that was recorded was there jeron?

ShinjiGohan

11-23-2005, 03:10 AM

Well not much of an update but I experiemented with guile a bit today.

If an opponent is landing from an attack or a jumpin against guile try the following.

cb.lp,f+lk,db,uf+k

So basicly you're going to combo a crouching light punch into a knee bazooka, into his double somersault kick.

this does work against all size characters (only tried it on sakura and zangief, but should work for everyone inbetween lol).

or if you have bar try instead a crouching hard punch, tag, then knee bazooka into the double somersault. Which would be something to consider if you do any throw tag combos, or some other type of tag combo that allows you to juggle the opponent with guile.

So one idea (while opponent is crouching)
ryu: j.hp, s.lp, tag, c.mp, c.hk
guile: c.lp, knee bazooka, double somersault.

JeRon

11-23-2005, 07:50 PM

No Shinji none of that was recorded but they plan on recording some stuff at the next event there and if EX gets drafted again I'll see what I can do about getting it for you!

ShinjiGohan

11-23-2005, 08:12 PM

Yea, if possible that'd be great.

Also have you played Alex Valle in EX? He supposively has a mean Doctrine Dark and Chun Li.

QOHLockheartDiva

11-24-2005, 12:09 PM

It seemed Capcom and Arika purposly did a half ass job on SFEX3. I love playing it with other people but alone I have no reason to play it. I got all the secret characters and prizes in like 3 hours. They could have made the game more challanging and added more extras.

ShinjiGohan

11-24-2005, 05:30 PM

Well what do you expect for a launch title that only had 3 months separating the PSX release of EX2+ and the PS2 release of EX3.

Infested Jester

11-25-2005, 09:20 AM

EX3 has one of the WORST AIs ever created. You need at least 2 players to even begin to scratch the surface of this game, 4 is even better though.

Shinji, gonna be cleaning the rust out soon, got Nekki coming back in a month, and possibly Gen too. Hopefully I'll break out of my 3S obssession but I'm still trying to refine my Alex. :tup:

ShinjiGohan

11-25-2005, 12:32 PM

not sure if I should be happy or scared. lol

Infested Jester

11-26-2005, 07:50 AM

not sure if I should be happy or scared. lol

Ah don't sweat it, you saw how rusty I was at ACEN, and that was from only a 3 month lay off. I think a full weekend playing Nekki though will get me back into the EX3 groove, sometimes a break from a particular game is exactly what you need to get back into it full strength again.

-cypher

11-26-2005, 08:23 AM

how is ex plus alpha? thinking of picking up both that and ex3

Infested Jester

11-26-2005, 10:37 AM

how is ex plus alpha? thinking of picking up both that and ex3

IMO

EX3>EX1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>EX2

-cypher

11-26-2005, 11:45 AM

heh, reason i want to pickup 1 is just to play as blair

ShinjiGohan

11-26-2005, 12:38 PM

well on top of the first EX, you could also play her in fighting layer if you could get your hands on that somehow.

-cypher

11-26-2005, 12:51 PM

what system is that on?

ShinjiGohan

11-26-2005, 02:48 PM

Japanese Arcade. So yea thats why I said "if". Though it is emulated if you wanted to go that route.

-cypher

11-26-2005, 02:50 PM

nah, thanks though.. whats so bad about ex2? and nice website

Infested Jester

11-26-2005, 03:39 PM

nah, thanks though.. whats so bad about ex2? and nice website

Excels = teh gay :tdown:

-cypher

11-26-2005, 06:34 PM

i forgot, but what are those? super cancels?

Infested Jester

11-26-2005, 08:18 PM

i forgot, but what are those? super cancels?

Basically they are like custom combos. Only problem is they'll blow through 99% of any ground based attacks, supers, etc. They also lead to ridiculously high damage combos and some easy infinites.

-cypher

11-26-2005, 08:28 PM

so only ex2 had that? anything bad on alpha or 3?

JeRon

11-26-2005, 09:44 PM

Cypher: Excels are no where as bad as they are in A2, A3 or CVS2 for that matter. Yes certain characters have infinites off of them but I diagree with Jester saying that they're easy to or pull off for that matter. Alot of those infinite setups are situational and 9 times out of 10 you wont pull them off on a good player. On top of Excels can be blocked so its not bad.

Pretty much if you like standard technical style SF that relies more on fottsies zoning etc. play EX2. If you prefer more fast paced fighting that virtually rely's more on execution and very little footsies play EX3.
Its generally alot easier to likk someone with a 80-90% combo in EX3 because all you have to do is land 1 foward to lead into a high damaging tag combo.
It all depends on your style of play!

btw Shinji Do you know where I can download the EX1 and or plus @lpha soundtrack from?
In response to your question no I never played Valle EX2, or anything for that matter!

Infested Jester

11-26-2005, 10:12 PM

Alot of those infinite setups are situational and 9 times out of 10 you wont pull them off on a good player. On top of Excels can be blocked so its not bad.

C'mon now, any Rosso ground based excel can lead into his easy infinite. Simply end with QCF+P,P, then crouch LK, QCF+P,P repeat. All you need is one opening, if they try a poke, throw, unblockable, etc. you can blow through with the excel into it. And all that from one bar of super.

JeRon

11-26-2005, 11:25 PM

ShinjiGohan

11-26-2005, 11:40 PM

Pretty much if you like standard technical style SF that relies more on fottsies zoning etc. play EX2. If you prefer more fast paced fighting that virtually rely's more on execution and very little footsies play EX3.
Its generally alot easier to likk someone with a 80-90% combo in EX3 because all you have to do is land 1 foward to lead into a high damaging tag combo.
It all depends on your style of play!
Well a lot of those 80-90% combos in EX3 is assuming that you and your tag partner both have 3 bars, which isn't too likely anyway. But a good combo should do 50-60% easy with one bar.

But that also depends on who you're playing. When you played me I have virtually no match play experience. Much less against a good opponent. So all I had to rely on was my execution in which even then it was lacking in some ways those 2 days I played you (ex. I couldn't get a string of momentaries with Hokuto to occur which normally I can do fairly well, and messing up some of my links, and rosso momentaries).

btw Shinji Do you know where I can download the EX1 and or plus @lpha soundtrack from?
In response to your question no I never played Valle EX2, or anything for that matter!

I got some from a website that was linked here a couple months ago. Something like Dark Symphony or something. Satome was promoting it a bit (IIRC), so maybe you wanna ask him. Or if you're on aim or something I could send it to you via that or upload it to streamload, temporaily.

For Valle too bad, he supposively has a mean D.Dark with footies. With any luck I should be getting some footage of that in soon (though knowing my luck it'll be as long as its taking you to send in the vids lol).

Saotome Kaneda

11-26-2005, 11:43 PM

btw Shinji Do you know where I can download the EX1 and or plus @lpha soundtrack from?
In response to your question no I never played Valle EX2, or anything for that matter!

http://www.shadowhaxor.net

If it ain't there now, then make a request and it'll be up soon.

edit: i r dumass

Infested Jester

11-27-2005, 01:12 AM

Off of an excel yeah Jester but like I said you wont land a typical Raw excel on a good player. Plus I dont think that the infinite is all that easy. Infinities are way easier in 3 because of the large stun factor in the game and the stun factor and hit frame timing is alot tighter in 2, taking into account that Rosso's dealing with limited options like No Anti-Air and putting him in a guess position opens HIM up to a large variety of combo openings. Yes I will say that if Rosso knocks you down tha he has a liable option to mix you up but even then its not guarunteed!

Well at some point during a match there is bound to be a mistake, a rushdown gone bad, etc. and if Rosso has one bar it's pretty much over. That infinite isn't that dificult, when I had only EX2 to play I was able to pull it off at least 90% of the time.

As for EX3s infinites, THEY are hard to do. Chun Lis Lightning Leg one requires some serious mashing and timing, I think I've looped it once or twice ever in match play. Pullums only works on Darun and Zangief, has insanely strict timing, and difficult execution. Ace isn't used due to the ridiculous DP loops, unblockable set ups, etc. Broken isn't the word for him.

I guess I just don't like EX2 due to the easy high damage factor. Even outside of infinites, someone like D.Dark can deal 80%+ damage from a single Dark Wire followed by an unblockable set up with only bar. I've seen high level EX2 matches and it always seems to be who can land the set up first, and if not it turns into a poke fest worse than a 3S Chun vs Chun fight. It's a shame we never got to play at ECC that day, I'm sure I could have shown you guys that there is a lot more needed to win than landing a crouching MK.

ShinjiGohan

11-27-2005, 01:25 AM

http://www.shadowhaxor.com

If it ain't there now, then make a request and it'll be up soon.

Yea that was the site. Thanks Saotome.... though it looks to be down unfortunately. :(

For EX2, I can't say from first hand exp. Though I've seen some hongkong vids and had talks with Jester and other well established EX players and most of it came down to Excels.

Saotome Kaneda

11-27-2005, 10:18 AM

Yea that was the site. Thanks Saotome.... though it looks to be down unfortunately. :(

For EX2, I can't say from first hand exp. Though I've seen some hongkong vids and had talks with Jester and other well established EX players and most of it came down to Excels.
fixed =x

note to self: don't post when you're half asleep

JeRon

11-27-2005, 01:10 PM

Well at some point during a match there is bound to be a mistake, a rushdown gone bad, etc. and if Rosso has one bar it's pretty much over. That infinite isn't that dificult, when I had only EX2 to play I was able to pull it off at least 90% of the time.

As for EX3s infinites, THEY are hard to do. Chun Lis Lightning Leg one requires some serious mashing and timing, I think I've looped it once or twice ever in match play. Pullums only works on Darun and Zangief, has insanely strict timing, and difficult execution. Ace isn't used due to the ridiculous DP loops, unblockable set ups, etc. Broken isn't the word for him.

I guess I just don't like EX2 due to the easy high damage factor. Even outside of infinites, someone like D.Dark can deal 80%+ damage from a single Dark Wire followed by an unblockable set up with only bar. I've seen high level EX2 matches and it always seems to be who can land the set up first, and if not it turns into a poke fest worse than a 3S Chun vs Chun fight. It's a shame we never got to play at ECC that day, I'm sure I could have shown you guys that there is a lot more needed to win than landing a crouching MK.

Cant really play theory fighter too much but it really all depends on a player. Sanford has a really good V. Rosso (typical to his style) and he goes for all these dash mixups and yes V.Rosso is kinda scary with meter especially if he has LV 3 but once I start to limit his options it goes in my favor. This is for any V. Rosso player. He's good but he's not crazy! Excecution doesnt come into play if you cant get in!

I dont know much about the infinites in 3 but I do know that the game has very high stun factor. You can low foward someone and wait 50 years then do a super. I just wish it werent like that and the characters werent so huge! But provided the same people that made 1-2+ didnt make 3 so I guess its to be expected!
Im not shitting on 3, its just that there are certain aspects that I dont like nonethe less Its really fun just like all the others and I will still play it just because Im big on the series in its entirety and will play all of them competetively!
We have a good set of players that play EX here!
Omar, Arturo, Sayid, Justin, Sanford amongst a few. I realize you dont have as many players but much like us play amongst yourselves on a high level thats why I suggested to Shinji (aka higher EX) lol that we can set something up at this place called Anarcade one day. Its a real nice place in the city where you can just chill have your setup and play! If interested and you guys are ready maybe in Janurary, Februrary sice they have monthly tournaments we can do it again.
Alot of the guys would like to see this go down with us against you guys in EX3!
So I guess we'll see ehat happens.

Thanks Saotome!

ShinjiGohan

11-27-2005, 01:25 PM

The wait on that c.mk is about the same as in 3s, so it isn't that bad :-p But we'll see I guess.

-cypher

11-27-2005, 06:18 PM

Sabin

11-27-2005, 08:29 PM

I co-sign with Jeron. EX3 is fun but I'm really turned off by the late cancels and large character sprites. excels are bad but are nowhere near as borken as they are in games like cvs2 or a2/a3. though they are a dominant aspect of the game. still, excels can be baited in other games a lot easier than they can in the 2D games cause of diff properties + you cant chip all day.

i actually started playing ex2+ a little again at ron's house with sayid, but ron shuts down any EX play that we get :(

ShinjiGohan

11-27-2005, 11:32 PM

thanks for all the feedback about the games.

was wondering, can you roll, sidestep in this game? and what other techniques are there availabe to you? and are supers done by the regular double motions or is it like rival schools?

Only specific characters can roll (Ken and Akuma), certain teleports can act like a side step if you will in previous games (EX-EX2+).

And supers are the regular double motions.

Sabin what do you mean that ron shuts down any ex play? Like after playing a bit he turns it off? Or how goes against your play styles and makes you play his style of EX?

Well either way, I've hated all things like CC, and excels aren't any different for me. Perhaps I'm just too ignorant to learn lol. But I was glad that they took those out and put momentaries in, in EX3.

Infested Jester

11-28-2005, 05:55 AM

Omar, Arturo, Sayid, Justin, Sanford amongst a few. I realize you dont have as many players but much like us play amongst yourselves on a high level thats why I suggested to Shinji (aka higher EX) lol that we can set something up at this place called Anarcade one day. Its a real nice place in the city where you can just chill have your setup and play! If interested and you guys are ready maybe in Janurary, Februrary sice they have monthly tournaments we can do it again.
Alot of the guys would like to see this go down with us against you guys in EX3!
So I guess we'll see ehat happens.

Yeah Shinji was telling me about that place, sounds good. January/February is kinda bad for me though, I have relatives coming up for most of January and in February I'll be in the Philippines for 3/4 of the month. I really gotta get back into playing EX3 hardcore again, been on a 3S binge as of late. Nekki will be back in a few weeks so chances are we'll be doing EX3 most of the time and I can get back into my groove.

Desk

11-28-2005, 07:14 AM

C'mon now, any Rosso ground based excel can lead into his easy infinite. Simply end with QCF+P,P, then crouch LK, QCF+P,P repeat. All you need is one opening, if they try a poke, throw, unblockable, etc. you can blow through with the excel into it. And all that from one bar of super.

which parts of this combo connect? I've been trying it but I can't get it to loop because it won't juggle. so do you have to launch them extra high or something?

also does chun's infinite work in EX1? I've tried it but she keeps getting pushed too far back. are there any infs in ex1?

thanks in advance

Infested Jester

11-28-2005, 07:36 AM

which parts of this combo connect? I've been trying it but I can't get it to loop because it won't juggle. so do you have to launch them extra high or something?

also does chun's infinite work in EX1? I've tried it but she keeps getting pushed too far back. are there any infs in ex1?

thanks in advance

Just end any ground excel with QCF+P,P, make sure you are out of the excel though when the QCF+P,P connects. I'm not 100% sure, but you might have to use LP for the QCF+P,P, I'll try it out later to confirm.

EX1 Chun Li and the Cycloid with the Lightning Leg had the same infinite, forgot the strength of the normal and Lightning Leg though. In EX3, Ace and Chun Li have different button strengths in their loops for that combo.

Desk

11-28-2005, 08:19 AM

thanks for the help. I'm still not sure about how to do that inf though. I have been doing it so both hits of the QCF P, P are after the excel but I can only get the c.lk to connect if both hits of the QCF P, P are juggles (i.e. you do it after a sweep or another QCF P, P), even then I can't get the next QCF P, P to connect because it won't juggle. Presumably if they don't have to be juggle hits then you could perform this inf without an excel since all you would be doing it hitting a grounded opponent with QCF P, P?

again, thanks for the help.

Infested Jester

11-28-2005, 08:54 AM

I checked some vids and you can find Chun Lis partial infinite and Rossos infinite in:

SFEX2 Linboys Volume 1

and Chun Lis true infinite in

SFEX2 Linboys Volume 2

http://www4.streamload.com/Nodes/Node.asp?cxInstID=1742315&nodeID=1030926733

These are really good vids overall too, they have Vegas (claw) kill combo and Kens Meteor mid combo that does over 50% with what must be EXTREME mashing. The Rosso infinite they use sets up with a sweep mid excel, I'm guessing this might be an easier set up but you can do it without the sweep. And the partial Chun Li infinite has HPs in it which probably deals more damage but you slowly make distance. Hope those help you out.

Desk

11-28-2005, 09:10 AM

sweetness. that helps alot. I already had vol 2 but not 1. I still can't get it to work but at least now I know exactly how it's done. I think the chun partial inf is done with MP. you can do the same thing in EX3 and you get the true inf because she doesn't get pushed back as much (pointless info, lol).

thanks alot man.

ShinjiGohan

11-28-2005, 12:43 PM

keep in mind that you have to end the lightning kick at the right point. If you do it too late then you won't recover in time to combo into the normal attack at the end.

Evilryu2K2

11-29-2005, 11:23 AM

http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks.php

this site has a LOT of stuff... never did download anything from it (haven'd had the time...) but from what i saw from the ex games it had a whole bunch of mp3's...

ShinjiGohan

12-04-2005, 03:56 PM

Just find something minor. In the first EX game (arcade, no plus's or anything), rapid fire anything will not get you any meter.

This is a tad bit surprising but if you recall in the first EX, there were no bonus's, however you did get a lil bit of bar for each move you did. Be it a standing jab that whiffs. However if those standing jabs have no break between them you don't get any bar except for the very first one.

Also, fixed the EX2+ movelist at my site. So now the basics of each movelist for each game is complete (did not do EX+, as EX+a is the same but with more characters so just did EX+a instead).

I'm now slowly inputing what frame data I have for the first EX game. NKI if you see this, I may need your services to translate some pages for me.

ShinjiGohan

12-06-2005, 08:52 PM

Seems like the "All About Street Fighter EX" book is also for sale here
http://store.animebooks.com/allabstreetf3.html

Along with the rest of the "All About" series.

Still haven't had any luck finding mooks though.

-cypher

12-06-2005, 08:55 PM

stupid question, but what's a mook?

another question. what's the difference between ex and ex plus alpha?

ShinjiGohan

12-06-2005, 10:48 PM

Mook was a line of magazines in japan that game out information on various arcade games at the time. Some of the issues had frame data on EX+, EX2 and EX2+. Which I'm currently lacking so when I attempt to create frame data for those games it'll take a lot of guess work and will likely be very inaccurate unless I'm able to find a copy of the magazines.

For the differences between EX and EX+a.
EX
-less characters
-less moves for some of the characters
-different commands to perform some moves for some of the characters (ie Garuda)
-no gauge bonus for anything ie "First Hit", "Tech Throw", "Reversal".
-using normal moves (even while missing) will partially fill up your super bar (150 missed jabs will fill up your bar completely while 75 missed strongs and fierces will fill it up completely)
-juggling infinite with Akuma (was taken out of next installation of the EX series)
-supposively an easier AI

hmm at the moment thats all I can think of...

Also consider that EX+a is a console only release that features various extra modes that the arcade obviously does not (training, expert, battle, time attack, barrels, survival, versus). On top of that 2 extra characters that were neither in EX or EX+ for the arcade.

All in all EX+a is a better game.

Though keep in mind that possibly if I were able to translate my "All About Street Fighter EX" book that I could have more things to say about whats different.

-cypher

12-06-2005, 11:17 PM

thanks for the info and listing the differences shinjigohan. sounds pretty tough, guessing the frames and all that. sorry for any trouble.

archetype

12-06-2005, 11:43 PM

Doesn't EX+@ have the arrange soundtracks instead of the regular tracks?

I always thought @ = arrange soundtracks

ShinjiGohan

12-07-2005, 03:25 PM

thanks for the info and listing the differences shinjigohan. sounds pretty tough, guessing the frames and all that. sorry for any trouble.

Well chances are a lot of the information should stay about the same. And with a bit of knowledge and guess work I should be able to do SFEX+a, EX2 and EX2+. Only one that will truely be a bitch and a half is EX3.

However don't worry about it. thats why I'm here. So if you think of any other questions be sure to ask.

For soundtracks... I don't believe so. I know they had an option for you to fight different sets of characters in arcade mode.

archetype

12-08-2005, 02:05 PM

Alright this is weird. I was downloading EX tracks of this site:

http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks.php

And some songs didn't match up right like "stronger" I then find a song from the EX2 soundtrack named "stronger" too. I listen to it and its the same one from when i played EX +@ from way back. I knew something was up when listened to both the regular and arrange tracks from EX and it didn't fit. Maybe they added different tracks to +@ or something i dunno. But EX bgm's are the best!

JeRon

12-08-2005, 02:14 PM

I was actually wondering the same thing when I said I was looking for the EX1 soundtrack I probrably meant EX+. I dunno its been a long time but its the one where all the characters have they're own themes,
ie: Zangief's Theme (Power Plant) Sharon & C. Jacks Theme (Old Town) etc.
but the Original!
I never liked arranged music but if anyone knows where I can get this I'd appreciate it!

Donkus

12-08-2005, 07:31 PM

Try the above link, they have EX tracks I've never heard before. Including a strange EX radio drama, I wonder why it was made.

ShinjiGohan

12-09-2005, 12:31 AM

Nekki bought it I believe in hopes that it'd have some storyline stuff in it. However I don't recall what exactly was in there, but if he sees this he could probably summarize it.

Richard

12-12-2005, 04:55 AM

Well, it's now getting on for 5 years of playing EX3, and I still haven't (knowingly) seen that alternate Nanase meteor. Can anybody capture a short vid?

ShinjiGohan

12-12-2005, 09:57 PM

off hand, I'm not sure how to do it either.

Deejay

12-18-2005, 09:40 PM

I have only played EX3 a few times, how exactly do u combo tha 2 special moves one after tha other?!!!
Like ryu can throw a regular fireball then a hurricane kick/flaming fireball.

ShinjiGohan

12-18-2005, 11:40 PM

That is called a momentary combo. For an example with Ryu, he has two momentaries (well all characters do), his punch one is a flaming fireball, and his kick one is a hurricane kick. So what you do, is when you're first special move hits (in this case a regular fireball), you press either punch or kick. If you time it right either one of those two moves will come out. There are however rules to it, such as you can't momentary into the same special than the one you're currently doing, and you must be in the right location on the screen do it it (on the ground for ground momentaries, or the air for aerial momentaries).

Richard

12-25-2005, 02:09 PM

All in all of all of supers and arsenals the gun super is what makes her dangerous, once she activates it nothing is safe anymore. You cant throw fireballs at her you cant jump and you have to be very careful upon sticking out too many random limbs. Even at the cost of 1 meter to activate the gun it really doesnt matter because Sharon is always on the offensive so she gains meter fast anyway. My advice, activate and sit on gun.
All these things make Sharon Top in + not to mention her LV3 is really good as well. Up close for the unblockable version and it doesnt require Gun activation from distance or close
My main problem with her is just the lack or variety... It mostly just seems to be ground-based lunges. And once you've divided by two, the damage per bar on the gun super is good but not that great.

Anyway, I've also been experimenting with Guile... You know the hit-tradeoff that happens with fireballs and supers? (ie, you throw a 4 hitter, I throw a 6, the net result being that I get through with a clean 2H combo)? Well, this works with pretty much all moves in the game. But something strange happens in EX3 when you try Sharon's rifle meteor against Guile's typhoon meteor... I've not tried it in Ex2, but I suspect it probably happens there as well. Can anybody explain the theory?

ShinjiGohan

12-25-2005, 02:17 PM

I suspect that it also deals with the "levels" of a move. Like a 3 hit red hadouken from Ryu will simply cancel out any other regular projectile (sonic boom or whatever). But if you try it on a level above it (say shinku hadouken), it'll just take some of the hits away from the shinku. But above that with meteors, I've never tried.

JeRon

12-26-2005, 04:58 PM

JeRon

12-26-2005, 05:08 PM

My main problem with her is just the lack or variety... It mostly just seems to be ground-based lunges. And once you've divided by two, the damage per bar on the gun super is good but not that great.

Anyway, I've also been experimenting with Guile... You know the hit-tradeoff that happens with fireballs and supers? (ie, you throw a 4 hitter, I throw a 6, the net result being that I get through with a clean 2H combo)? Well, this works with pretty much all moves in the game. But something strange happens in EX3 when you try Sharon's rifle meteor against Guile's typhoon meteor... I've not tried it in Ex2, but I suspect it probably happens there as well. Can anybody explain the theory?

Well she is pretty complex in terms of ground game but its still good nonetheless. Her fast recovery, ground speed and priority is all she needs pretty much. I dont know what you define as good or gret but the gun shot super is the strongest LV 1 in the game. Technically its a lv2 and the only lv 2 in the game since you have to count the activation but as I said before she builds meter really quick so its a good and fair tradeoff!

To your question I have no idea. Im assuming that they nullify eachother out.

ShinjiGohan

12-27-2005, 01:26 AM

Was going through some old results and thought I'd put them here to show that this people DO play this game underground! haha

Street Fighter EX 2+
Hunger Break 2004 (13 players)
1st. Julien Robinson: Blanka
1st. Jeron Grayson: Area
3rd Sanford Kelly: Volcanno Rosso
4th Eddie Lee: Blanka
5th Justin Wong: Ryu
5th Philong Neugen (JetPhi): Chun li

Street Fighter EX2+
ECC VIII (16 players)
1st. Julien R: Sagat/Blanka
2nd. Arturo S: Sharon/Sagat
3rd. Jeron G: Dhalsim/C. Jack
4th. Sanford K: V. Rosso
5th. Justin W: Ryu
5th. Phi: ChunLi

Im running a side tournament at Clash:
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101026&page=3

Does anyone that goes to the break knows if the game is still there? I havent been there since ECC!

Sounds cool. Though offhand I've never been to the Break so I have no idea if they still have it.

Only problem I have is when I go through the tournament events, there are no give away signs that EX is being played at any of them. So going through each one just to see if its on the event list is a bit tideous and frustrating. Especially when I find out a month later that there was an EX tournament someplace.

Guess that could be another thing to update this thread on as well as my site.

ShinjiGohan

12-28-2005, 01:11 AM

Small chance of an EX3 tournament at Nickle City in Feburary
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105685

I need at least 8 players here, and I'm willing to pay your entry fee.

ShinjiGohan

01-14-2006, 02:44 PM

Well I purchased another japanese SFEX+a guide hoping for more frame data for characters that weren't in SFEX, but alas no such luck :-\

I also purchased on ebay the gamest mook for SFEX2, hopefully that'll arrive soon.

I supposed I'll have to try that other japanese SFEX+a guide and see if they have any data for characters like Sakura, Dhalsim etc... Otherwise its all up to guess work.

On another update, I uploaded some japanese combo vids of EX3 on my site. Most of them are meh, but there was one that I did learn some stuff about.

ShinjiGohan

01-19-2006, 01:54 AM

Zangief tick throw and why its too good.

Ya see, given that you can't throw or SPD while the opponent is in hit stun or block stuff, it all comes down to timing. Zangief can cancel out his regular moves with an SPD with exception of standing strong, standing fierce, standing roundhouse and crouching roundhouse, while he can SC out of any of his normal moves into a FAB.

Now block stun for light attacks in EX is 9 frames, hit stun is 12 frames
Block stun for medium attacks in EX is 14 frames, hit stun is 17 frames
Block stun for hard attacks in EX is 25 frames, and hit stun is 28 frames (3 frame difference between hit and stun for almost everything except something dealing with supers/specials that I can't seem to translate lol).

For block stun you essentially have between 14-33 frames to touch all 6 directions for a SPD exactly when they recover frames block stun. Which could look like this
crouching jab, 5 start up frames, 4 attack frames, and 6 recovery frames (you'd have to cancel out the last recovery frame of the crouching jab into the SPD to get it exactly when they recover from block stun and become SPDable so to speak). So it'd look something like this
df+lp (you just pressed attack on this frame),Frame 1 (start up frame begins now),Frame 2,Frame 3 (press f now),Frame 4, Frame 5 (press df now), Frame 6 (attack now hits), Frame 7 (press d now), Frame 8, Frame 9 (press db now), Frame 10 (recovery frames begin now), Frame 11 (press b now), Frame 12, Frame 13 (press uf+lp now), Frame 14 (opponent now recovers from hit stun, and SPD is executed as it canceled out of the recovery frames of the crouching jab).

A cleaner version of above
df+lp,,,f,,df,,d,,db,,b,,uf+lp,
Or for those zinc macro players :-p
drb1,,,r,,dr,,d,,dl,,l,,ulb1 (assuming you're on the right hand side)

still haven't tried it in zinc though, but in theory that should work.

You see, since almost all of his normals can be canceled into an SPD, and all of them can be canceled into his FAB, He has nothing to lose, for even if he would have frame disadvantage, if he canceled it at the correct time, he'll still come out with an SPD which will grab you out of whatever it is that you decided to attempt to try.

gutabo

01-19-2006, 03:12 AM

Anyone explained in great detail ex3 tiers? Thanks in advance :D

Infested Jester

01-19-2006, 05:53 AM

Anyone explained in great detail ex3 tiers? Thanks in advance :D

From a few months ago:

Back by popular demand I'll give my updated EX3 tier list. I'm not too sure where to place everyone EXACTLY in each tier mainly due to teams enhancing a charcters performance (Garuda with Dhalsim for example) but everyone inside the tier does belong there. I'm also not taking infinites into account since some are simply too hard to pull consistently, are sometimes character specific, etc.

God Tier:

Kairi
Evil Ryu
*Ace

These two simply have everything going for them inside the EX3 engine. They are both great at keep away or rushdown, they build meter fast, excellent momentarys for 100% safe blocked combos, they can both hold their own by themselves and are capable of easy comebacks, high damage combos, etc. I put Evil Ryu in this tier and not normal Ryu mainly because he has just about everything Ryu has plus a ShoReppa type super, a better hurricane kick, and can build meter faster. There is no reason to ever pick normal Ryu over Evil Ryu in EX3.

Top Tier:

Rosso
Dhalsim
Garuda - only here due to his CP
Shadow
Bison
D. Dark
Area
Ryu
Guile

All these characters have good tag potential, unpunishable chip combos, etc. Rosso has easy 50+% combos via one super bar and a tag, Dhalsim is like the Cable of EX3 with his keep away and Yoga Drill Superx3 loop. If you want more specifics on each charcter just ask, its far too much too type.

Middle Tier:

Ken
Blanka
Zangief
Darun
Chun Li
Skullomania
Pullum
Sharon - borders on bottom tier depending on opponent
Sagat
Hokuto
C. Jack

Now we start getting into having to work much harder for results. All these characters can be good, but mainly due to a good partner. They can't break defense all that great and most of the time cannot make comebacks when left alone. They also lack any good tag set ups and usually left vulnerable more times than they should. With most, mind games are going to be even more crucial here and once your opponent catches on its going to be an uphill battle.

Bottom Tier:

Nanasae
Vega
Sakura

Horrendous tag potential, can't break defense, etc. Aside from combo follow ups off tags these guys simply were given the shit end of the stick in EX3.

Again sorry if this is not in depth enough, but if you want character specifics just ask for that one in particular, hope this helps somewhat.

You'll have to ask for specifics if you want a longer charcter breakdown, WAY too much to type for everyone. There are also plenty of vids (combo and match) if you care to see.

ShinjiGohan

01-19-2006, 11:47 AM

I figured it was best to leave that to you jester :-p

gutabo

01-19-2006, 02:41 PM

ZOMG that was fast!

Ok what about Evil Ryu? some combos too?
Thanks :D

ShinjiGohan

01-20-2006, 02:41 AM

Well this is basic but whatever :-p

j.hp, c.mp, c.mk, hp.hadouken, shoryu reppa, SC 1st hit of 2nd shoryuken into Shinku Tatsumaki, c.mk, lk.tatsumaki, SC between first and 2nd hit of tatsumaki into shinku tatsumaki, c.mk, tag, c.mp, j.hk, cancel into air tatsumaki.

Though I don't really play Evil Ryu but that should work. Though Jester should be able to give you better combos and more reasons to his being there.

Infested Jester

01-20-2006, 05:51 AM

Quick rundown:

Chip damage, safe when blocked, meter building combos:

Jump HK, crouch MP, crouch MK, Hadouken, Momentary HP

F+HP, crouch MK, Hadouken, Momentary HP

Jump HK, crouch MK, LP DP, Momentary HP

To set the opponent up for ground Tag combos:

Anything into Hadouken, Tag, crouch MK, Hadouken, Surprise Blow

To set the opponent up for an air combo:

Anything into Hadouken, Tag, crouch MK, Hadouken, Momentary HK

B&B combos:

Jump HK, crouch MP, crouch MK, Hadouken, Momentary HK, Shinku Hurricane

Jump HK, crouch MK, LP DP, Air Shinku Hurricane, walk foward, LP DP, Air Shinku Hurricane, repeat

Jump HK, crouch MP, crouch MK, Hadouken, ShoReppa

Flashier but Harder

Jump HK, crouch MK, LP DP, Tag, standing HK, Shinku Hurricane, partner follows with combo

Jump HK, crouch MP, crouch MK, Hadouken, Momentary HP, ShoReppa, Air Shinku Hurricane, crouch MK, Tag, jump HK, Air Hurricane Kick, Air Shinku Hurricane, partner follows up with combo

Quick Notes

Denjin is useless
Super cancelling all 3 supers is a waste for the most part
Teleport is kinda useless as well

If you need any more specifics just ask me or Shinji, hope this helps.

ShinjiGohan

02-03-2006, 01:19 PM

Garuda's meaty stragety not safe?

In the first EX game this is as follows.
What I do is I stand over a fallen opponent and perform a meaty Shuga (qcf+p), which typically they block, upon recovery I would then do a c.mk, into another Shuga.

Unfortunately according to the frame data, doing it as a meaty doesn't provide any benefit at all (unless you perform a late meaty where only the very last frame of the last hit connects which would only give you a +1 frame advantage).

How it goes is this.

Blocked specials in SFEX provides a block stun of 25 frames.
Frame data for shuga:
15 start up frames
8 adjecent 2 frame sections of active frames, and 23 recovery frames.

Typically (unless you time the meaty to hit on the very last frame of the active frames), if the opponent blocks, their last block stun duration will start on the last 2 frame section of the active frames, followed by a 23 frame recovery. In otherwords, both the opponent and you will recover at the exact same time. Most of the time people don't know that, so they continue to block the following c.mk, which is then canceled into another shuga (god bless their hearts).

However the c.mk has a start up of 6 frames (which is assuming we time the c.mk to come out directly after the shuga ends).

So as long as the opponent retaliates with a move with a shorter start up time than the c.mk, they should hit first, which would turn the tides against garuda.

Granted, Garuda could instead follow up with Kizen instead (which is invincible for the first 16 frames) and would knock out virtually any counter attack by the opponent, unless they did a super with even more invinciblity frames.

Basicly, a whole new slew of mind games opens up. But one thing is for sure. If the garuda players continue to do the meaty shuga, to a c.mk into another shuga. They'll become suseptable to reversals and counters.

ShinjiGohan

02-26-2006, 02:20 PM

update:
uploaded some EX2+ videos that are mirrored from a japanese site. Please check my site for details.

In other news my program pad arrived so not some frame data info is coming your way. Charing for Guiles sonic boom is only 50 frames or 5/6th of a second.

More info as it comes your way.

Thanks Magnetro2k for the help on using the pad.

ShinjiGohan

02-26-2006, 11:57 PM

Momentaries:
Myth, momentaries require strict timing to a single frame to perform
Fact, momentaries do require strict timing but you have 3 frames to perform them in. Which would explain as to why sometimes certain momentary combos work and sometimes the last momentary misses.

ShinjiGohan

03-14-2006, 01:50 AM

Releasing a new video soon, just creating different versions (Xvid, mpeg1 etc...).

Also of note with momentaries, it appears as though it isn't as cut and dry as I used to believe.

Some momentaries have odd requirements. Such as Pullums Pirum Kick. The only momentary she can do from that is the Kick momentary. Likewise, on the 2nd hit of the Ten'el kick, she only accepts punch momentaries, while the first hit will take either. I suppose that was their idea to tone her down perhaps.

ShinjiGohan

03-14-2006, 12:39 PM

1/2Man1/2God

03-16-2006, 11:46 AM

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question but are Skullomania and Shadowgeist some how related. I see similarities in thier moves and costume.

ShinjiGohan

03-16-2006, 12:35 PM

until I get my mook translated, I can't say for sure. Though Shadowgeist seems to be the evil do'er in Skullomania's superhero persona.

JeRon

03-29-2006, 02:11 PM

Ok its just about Spring time so you know what that means! EX full effect and sice Im all about promoting good games (To me EX 2+= Best SF game of all time) Im going to in the short future be hosting some tournys with extra pot money to throw some incentive into it. Stay tuned for that though. :)
EX 2+ will be showcased as one of the games at OHN Australias International Fighting Game Championship. Since I'll be there I plan on taking it all home with my Dhalshim for the win ^.^ anyway I have to get my copy back so I'll have to do a little searching but best believe all the good games like the EX series and Vampire Savior will be pushed by yours truly since theres nothing new or remotely interesting in mainstream games today....cough CVS.. cough cough 3S!
Hell I even opted for EX at Evolution so we'll see what happens.
Im going to get back into Zangief since he holds good weight in the series and would definetly say the EX series is his best rendition....they do him no justice in anything else!!!

ShinjiGohan

03-29-2006, 11:32 PM

What happened to the anarcade tournaments?

Well I also posted for EX at evo but outside of one other person no one has shown any support. Though I know AfroLegends bugs Wiz about it.

Well anyway if you goto Australia for the tourni.... good luck and I hope the winnings cover the flight back at least.

ShinjiGohan

04-06-2006, 11:15 PM

found this at neoseeker
my brother and i have been playing ex3 since the begining and we think we are amoung the best there is.But to truly be the best you have to beat the best.There for we are starting a home based ex3 tournament in orlando florida.We are inviting all ex3 experts to sign up and participate.All those interested please e-mail me at:lexsmiley78@yahoo.com LOOKING FOWARD TO CHALLENGING YOU!!!!!!

dji

04-06-2006, 11:37 PM

lol how the fuck did i miss this thread??

will post something once i get through all 56 pages(!)...i am planning to make an SFEX+@ video, so yeah, just a heads up...

ShinjiGohan

04-07-2006, 03:03 AM

Well as of late, I'm the only one posting information and if I don't have anything to say then it tends to go back several pages.

But regardless, I look forward to a EX+a video.

Evilryu2K2

04-07-2006, 05:37 AM

*rises from grave*

*altered beast music queues in*:rofl:

going through 56pages won't be easy... but i wish you the best of luck:tup:

also looking forward for a sfex+@ vid

btw shinji, i've got to play sfex3 and i find myself enjoying Darun+shadowgeist... are they a solid team?

can you give me some combos and strategies with them?

hold dat

04-07-2006, 05:51 AM

Infested Jester

04-07-2006, 06:03 AM

ShinjiGohan

04-07-2006, 08:40 AM

heh, I was thinking of going, depending on when it'd be. Though that name.... Lex, remind you of anything Jester? lol

Evilryu2K2

04-07-2006, 01:11 PM

Donkus

04-07-2006, 01:56 PM

SFEX3 Combo: Ace Missions (encoded in xvid: high quality, mpeg: low quality, dvix5?: low quality)

Located in my homepage in Videos-> Street Fighter EX3 combos

That'll take you to another page where the 2 low quality versions are at and within that folder is a high quality folder where the xvid version is at.

Though its 12 minutes long, so its kinda long and pointless to transcribe each mission. If you have any specific questions go ahead and ask.

That was a good one.

"...and to you, the viewer

not"

On the mission where you have to hit them with a bunch of crap after a throw, you canceled the cLK into the special dragon. I always tried to cancel into Double Somersault. I heard that works but it always missed, will it work?

JeRon

04-07-2006, 03:47 PM

ZANGIEF IS JEHOVAH TIER IN EX 1!!!

i thought me and Philip Kao were the only true fans of zangief in the EX series in NY. Jeron we gotta get some games in. Zangiefs is a broken-ass character though. they gave him him ungodley throw range in that game. and his tick 720 is just...well u know. lol

(plus i owe you for beating me at the Anarchcade touney in Super Turbo lol)

Yo man Im all over Zangief in the series. Actually Julien Robinson plays Gief hardcore but then again Julien also plays Gief in CVS 2:wtf:
When I find out the date for Fist of the East Coast 2 I WILL be holding EX 2+ and EX 3 as a National Tournament and have a scroll made (ala the one I have from Texas Showdown) saying Street Fighter EX National Champion to go with the Bonus money!
We'll definetly get some games going man, I gotta get my copy back sometime soon.
btw: I dont mind being on the ST "hit list" "Bring it Fool!:karate:
lol

found this at neoseeker
my brother and i have been playing ex3 since the begining and we think we are amoung the best there is.But to truly be the best you have to beat the best.There for we are starting a home based ex3 tournament in orlando florida.We are inviting all ex3 experts to sign up and participate.All those interested please e-mail me at:lexsmiley78@yahoo.com LOOKING FOWARD TO CHALLENGING YOU!!!!!!

Why Florida? Do they play that there?

1/2Man1/2God

04-07-2006, 05:51 PM

No fighting game should be without Zangeif!

-Does any one use Dhalsim or think he's a good character becuase I seriously hate him and I wish Capcom would forget they made him.

ShinjiGohan

04-08-2006, 01:55 AM

That was a good one.

"...and to you, the viewer

not"

On the mission where you have to hit them with a bunch of crap after a throw, you canceled the cLK into the special dragon. I always tried to cancel into Double Somersault. I heard that works but it always missed, will it work?

You're refering to the throw, c.lp, shoryuken, super move right?

IF so yea, I got it once via
throw, c.lp, double somersault, triple break (between somersaults), walk up shoryuken, flash kick.

EvilRyu... I don't really play shadowgeist. I know of a couple combos with him, but I can't really evaulate that team too well. Jester used to play that team I think so he'd be the one to ask.

Jeron
1. I wouldn't mind going if it were feesable. I know someone in the DC area thats planning on throwing some EX tournaments within the next year, so thats something to look forward to.

2. For the tournament in florida, as I said I just relayed that post from someone on the neoseeker website. Judging from the post, there are a couple people that play EX there but I have no idea on how good they are.

halfmanhalfgod
personally I like Dhalsim in EX, he can zone really well plus have insane juggles (though thats mostly on poor darun >.<)

Infested Jester

04-08-2006, 04:56 AM

lex reminds me of eks brother lexx... wonder if they're the same person...... although i doubt it:sweat:

btw, still waiting for some tips with darun and shadowgeist... all i have is what i can remember from the vids you guys made

First, if this "Lex" is EKs brother than I know it would be a walk in the park. :rofl:

As for Darun/Shadow lets see:

A bit out of it right now so sorry if this is out of order, the content will be accurate though I assure you.

With Darun go for jump HP or cross up MK into crouch MPx2, Lariat, Tag

That can set up good tag combos, and also provide pressure if blocked to allow safe entry for Shadow. If its blocked continue with crouch HP, Surprise Blow then continue with Shadow as you see fit. If it connects you can do crouch HP, Surprise Blow to set up any ground combo you please with Shadow. Or you can go with crouch HP, Power Indra Bridge to set up any air combo you like. Note that it sets up Shadows Air Death Dream perfectly. :wink:

For Shadow, I suggest mastering his triple momentary, preferably starting with jump HK, crouch MK, Death Break, Momentary HP, Momentary LK, Death Government, jump HK repeat. This provides excellent pressure and only a handful of characters can escape it. Try mixing up throws and Surprise Blows inbetween to trick them.

For set ups I do anything into Death Crusher, Tag, crouch MK, Death Crusher, Surprise Blow. That will set up Darun for any ground based combo you like. OR you can end a combo with Tag, Death Government, Darun standing HK, Power Indra Bridge...just a variant if you have meter.

Random trick, will probably only work once or twice though. With Shadow have them block and end a combo with Death Crusher, Tag, standing HK, Death Energy...as they are blocking the Death Energy jump in with Darun and do either of the following:

empty jump, Super Darun Bomb

jump MK, standing LK, Super Darun Bomb

The block stun from Death Energy will provide some extra cover for the mix up.

Hope thats enough for now, if you have any specifics just ask.

dji

04-09-2006, 01:47 AM

ShinjiGohan

04-10-2006, 01:37 PM

off hand I haven't played the barrel game in a long time, and have forgotten my score... but 2,000,000 doesn't seem bad at all.

Evilryu2K2

04-18-2006, 08:02 AM

mine is 4500000 points... can't say it's the exact score but it's around that value... i'd turn on my psx and see the score but i have to leave home soon and won't be back home till saturday

ShinjiGohan

05-04-2006, 08:41 PM

bump

New video on my site. Its a rip of the Gamest SFEX tape

http://www.streamload.com/ShinjiGohan/SFEXPvideos/GamestSFEXVHStapeMPEG1.mpg

uploading MQ and HQ versions presently but it may be a couple days for it to complete.

The video contains tutorial on guardbreaks, combos and matches. Including a mini expert mission mode.

Evilryu2K2

05-06-2006, 03:08 AM

nice video shinji:wink:
one thing that intrigued me... what was that timer on skullo's face slam move?:wonder:

xXx$HIN-GIEFxXx

05-07-2006, 12:23 AM

Hey guys I got a question, I never played EX3 simple because I didn't own a PS2 at the time but I loved EX+@ would I like EX3?.

Infested Jester

05-07-2006, 12:54 AM

Hey guys I got a question, I never played EX3 simple because I didn't own a PS2 at the time but I loved EX+@ would I like EX3?.

I think so, Guard Breaks are now gone and replaced with Surprise Blows (overheads), Throws are no damn by pressing, LP+LK, and the Tag System is damn fun. For combo and match vids check here for a more in depth look.

http://www4.streamload.com/Nodes/Node.asp?cxInstID=1742315&nodeID=1071966535

gen

05-07-2006, 07:30 AM

ah, nice vid shinji...

hey jester, prepare yourself for my makoto.

ShinjiGohan

05-07-2006, 12:29 PM

nice video shinji:wink:
one thing that intrigued me... what was that timer on skullo's face slam move?:wonder:

Its a crowd thing. After perfroming the move you hold down a couple buttons (forgetting which off hand) and you get graded based on your distance when you perform the move. If the guy is just barely within range you get a poor score, if he is dead center then you get a 10.

oh shit, its gen lol

Evilryu2K2

05-07-2006, 01:54 PM

ah, nice vid shinji...

hey jester, prepare yourself for my makoto.

the bison player has returned from his misterious wandering travels....:rofl:

i guess that that skullo face slam timer is kinda stupid if it only means that...:rolleyes:

ShinjiGohan

05-07-2006, 02:07 PM

Pretty much, which is why I never bothered remembering the exact command lol

xXx$HIN-GIEFxXx

05-07-2006, 07:41 PM

I think so, Guard Breaks are now gone and replaced with Surprise Blows (overheads), Throws are no damn by pressing, LP+LK, and the Tag System is damn fun. For combo and match vids check here for a more in depth look.

http://www4.streamload.com/Nodes/Node.asp?cxInstID=1742315&nodeID=1071966535

Nice videos man, that really makes me want to play it.

Looks like you can do some sick shit in that game.

I'll have to check it out.

Thx.

ShinjiGohan

05-08-2006, 03:23 PM

Check ebay for copies, and it'll be very difficult to find a copy in stores.

ShinjiGohan

05-14-2006, 11:03 PM

just wanted to mention that SFEX+@ had some damn good music. and also what were your guys' highest barrel bonus stage scores for EX+@? mine was a little over 2,000,000 (got the exact number somewhere, just don't remember) with evil ryu, 118 barrels, no misses. i'm pretty sure there's higher out there, just wanna know what it is so i can beat it ;)

sigh...at the halfway point (pg 28), i'm marathoning here guys, wish me luck x_x

A couple pages eariler there was a video that I mirrored from a japanese site with a perfect barrel run (at least as far as I can tell, with a max score of 9,999,999, it would have been more but that score keeper stops at that number).

Evilryu2K2

05-15-2006, 03:38 AM

A couple pages eariler there was a video that I mirrored from a japanese site with a perfect barrel run (at least as far as I can tell, with a max score of 9,999,999, it would have been more but that score keeper stops at that number).

seen it and i went bananas with it:looney: he got pretty much every bonus in it as well as the 1000000 black barrel (wich i don't even bother to go for...)
maybe i'll find some way to incorporate it in the summer when i have some time to play the game but i'll have to work it a lot since ryu doesn't have a good jumping kick like hokuto for this:wink:
anyway, later this afternoon i'll post here both my barrel scores (EX+@ and EX2+)

Evilryu2K2

05-15-2006, 06:15 AM

here's my barrel bonus game scores

SFEX2+: 9'420'500
SFEX+@: 4'510'000

ShinjiGohan

05-17-2006, 11:31 AM

here's my barrel bonus game scores

SFEX2+: 9'420'500
SFEX+@: 4'510'000

Well done, far better than mine I believe.

Evilryu2K2

05-17-2006, 12:35 PM

Well done, far better than mine I believe.

thanks shinji:wgrin:

forgot to say wich char i used:
for SFEX2+ i used Ryu and for SFEX+@ i used Evil Ryu:wink:

Saotome Kaneda

05-17-2006, 12:44 PM

Pretty much, which is why I never bothered remembering the exact command lol
IIRC it's d+LP+MK+HP, or the other way around. It's the same buttons you hold for Alt Scullo Dream tho.

ShinjiGohan

05-17-2006, 01:06 PM

That sounds about right SK. Thanks

JackTenrac!

05-17-2006, 01:46 PM

Hope it comes in English. Really good match data here...seriously. Arigato, S.

ShinjiGohan

05-17-2006, 02:14 PM

You mean the Gamest VHS Tape. Sadly it was only released in japan so there shouldn't be an english copy anywhere. And I'm not sure where I could get a fansub of it made :-\

JackTenrac!

05-18-2006, 11:17 AM

Cool. I would like to see it.

Speaking of which, I am close to high teir with Chun Li and I would like to power my Skullomania, Doctrine Dark, and Sharon. What should I train on most?

And is Chun Li a bad character in here?

ShinjiGohan

05-18-2006, 12:54 PM

Could you be more specific to which game? Though typically Doctrine Dark is a good character in all of the EX games. Skullo is pretty good in EX3 and alright in other games (IMHO), Sharon is good in EX2+, but less than stellar in EX3.

Chun hasn't really changed too much outside of an upkicks super (EX2 and up) and gaining a charge fireball in EX3.

JackTenrac!

05-18-2006, 02:33 PM

EX 3, really. Any sugguestions?

ShinjiGohan

05-18-2006, 11:37 PM

Shes not a bad character, she's pretty average though. Practice random rushdown with her lightning kicks into kick momentaries. Outside of combos I'm not much of a chun player. Sensei or Nekki if you read this you got any advice?

Infested Jester

05-19-2006, 08:37 AM

I'll post up some advanced D. Dark strats later. For Skullo, I think Shinji still has some old vids showing off some of my Skullo Traps.....its all about the Skullo Ball and momentaries with him.

Chun Li is pretty solid, she needs the right partner though. Shraon can be effective but you have to play her very simply. I tried her for a while using all the QCF+P mix ups combined with momentaries but she has too many damn gaps in her game that way. Stick to her ground speed and cross ups, thats the key to winning with her.

ShinjiGohan

05-19-2006, 12:16 PM

...no you never gave me any footage of the skullo traps.

also uploaded 2 more versions of the gamest video. however it doesn't want me to upload large files (over 1 GB) so the quality is better but now where it should be.

Infested Jester

05-19-2006, 06:23 PM

...no you never gave me any footage of the skullo traps.

I just checked, they are in the "SFEX3 Strag" folder on your streamload account. I think you have so many vids now you forgot. ^_^

BTW, thanks for the Shin Bison clip. :tup:

JackTenrac!

05-20-2006, 07:37 AM

Much Thanks, are these vids posted anywhere? If so, please send/pm the link? Thanks.

Infested Jester

05-20-2006, 08:00 AM

Much Thanks, are these vids posted anywhere? If so, please send/pm the link? Thanks.

http://www4.streamload.com/Nodes/Node.asp?cxInstID=1742315&nodeID=1071966535

Just check the SFEX3 Strag folder for Skullo. As for matches I know Gen plays Dark in quite a few of them and you can see how to really apply the pressure. If you want more detailed strats/combos/etc. PM me your yahoo or AIM ID, its much easier to answer questions that way, I hate typing out long strategy explanations. :looney:

ruthless_nash

05-20-2006, 05:18 PM

cant be arsed to read the whole thread, can someone post a tier list for EX2+, probably the best game in the series.

Infested Jester

05-20-2006, 05:43 PM

cant be arsed to read the whole thread, can someone post a tier list for EX3, probably the best game in the series.

Fixed it for you. :wink:

EX2 I'd go Rosso or Dark due to the easy infinite and unblockable set up though.

ShinjiGohan

05-21-2006, 12:23 AM

I just checked, they are in the "SFEX3 Strag" folder on your streamload account. I think you have so many vids now you forgot. ^_^

BTW, thanks for the Shin Bison clip. :tup:

those were the ones with the skullo slide to p.momentary, to skullo energy, to skullo ball, to dash mix up (up for skullo catch, and down for skullo slide and neutral for skullo shoulder bash?). Where if they attempt to block the skullo ball they get caught by the skullo catch, if they attempt to attack they get hit by the skullo ball, or if they dash back the skullo slide into p.momentary to what I listed before?

ShinjiGohan

05-23-2006, 02:17 AM

Moved the webpage to 1and1 hosting. domainname should be more memorable now. its

http://www.streetfighterex.info

JackTenrac!

05-23-2006, 06:51 PM

Yeah, man. This thread rocks...haard.

Why did they take out Gouki? Surely Arika had some sort of say over this. Also...he's my all time favourite character in SF.

ShinjiGohan

05-24-2006, 01:57 AM

Capcom fearing EX's possible popularity wanted a way for thefans to realize that EX is not in the regular Street Fighter canon's storyline. That said, they had Akuma perish in a fight against Kairi (hence the sudden change from EX+a to EX2 with Kairi).

JackTenrac!

05-24-2006, 03:39 AM

Saddening. Gouki is invincible and now, defeated by a kid and it wasn't Ryu...

aww well. Anyhow, who do you think won the kick off at the intro? Ken, or Ryu?

Friends tell me it was surely Ken because of the kick to the neck he is giving out.

Discuss?

ShinjiGohan

05-24-2006, 12:13 PM

Of EX1, probably Ryu due to his super high shoryuken he did there.

EX3 probably Ryu.

JackTenrac!

05-24-2006, 02:43 PM

I meant the intro of EX there. Ken got him in the throat on the face off.

Evilryu2K2

05-24-2006, 06:30 PM

personally i don't think any of them wins... i just think they are just showing off

ShinjiGohan

05-24-2006, 06:54 PM

Then he had Ken under pressure. While such a kick would normally KO a normal human, Ryu and Ken are hardly normal.

JackTenrac!

05-24-2006, 07:26 PM

Woah, then, it's a tie?

ShinjiGohan

05-24-2006, 08:21 PM

possibly.

JackTenrac!

05-24-2006, 08:26 PM

...damn. Aww well. Ryu can whup Ken anyday.

How do you find ShadowGeist? I haven't touched him since 2000.

...that went well.

ShinjiGohan

05-24-2006, 08:49 PM

I found him annoying to fight against in EX2, though it seems as though he's lost priority on his moves in EX2+ and EX3. Still a good character though.

Infested Jester

05-24-2006, 10:20 PM

Kairi FTW. I used to like Akuma a lot, but he's SO over exposed now I can't stand his character anymore. When EX pushed Kairi I was more than pleased. His story is fresh, and his actual style of gameplay is unique in EX3.

As for the intro sequence.....I don't think I have watched it since I got the game years ago.

rogueyoshi

05-25-2006, 07:54 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aaCj5uLPn5U&search=kof%20xi

i know that song is from ex, can someone tell me the name and the album it is from?

JackTenrac!

05-25-2006, 09:55 PM

Ken's theme, "Rising Dragoon?" EX 1 Original Soundtrack I pressume.

Evilryu2K2

05-26-2006, 03:10 AM

Ken's theme, "Rising Dragoon?" EX 1 Original Soundtrack I pressume.

yep you're right, it's ken's theme from ex1...

Dan_The Man

05-26-2006, 03:36 AM

whats wrong with jack? I looked at his tier placement and he's not so good.

Infested Jester

05-26-2006, 04:31 AM

whats wrong with jack? I looked at his tier placement and he's not so good.

Momentaries are useless outside of combos, ant-air is megh, no real safe pressure combos to build meter, all his specials leave him open if blocked, once his partner is gone GGPO Jack.

His real strength lies in his actual combos, which build meter fast and deal good damage, the only problem is getting the opening to land said combo. Jack needs a partner like D. Dark to be really effective since Dark can set up any partner perfectly and can break defense easily.

JackTenrac!

05-26-2006, 06:02 AM

I wanna make a Chun Li tutorial vid for EX 3 with either the Blurry Home song or..."Tempreature" by Sean Paul.

Guile is great with Li since they have a tag special, also. Good sets.

Infested Jester

05-26-2006, 06:28 AM

I wanna make a Chun Li tutorial vid for EX 3 with either the Blurry Home song or..."Tempreature" by Sean Paul.

Guile is great with Li since they have a tag special, also. Good sets.

Make sure to showcase her infinite......respect. :rock:

JackTenrac!

05-26-2006, 06:34 AM

Make sure to showcase her infinite......respect. :rock:

What's her infinite? Her Kick Super x 6?

Infested Jester

05-26-2006, 06:44 AM

What's her infinite? Her Kick Super x 6?

Not the super, her regular Lightning Leg (tap kick button)

Anything into crouching MP, Lightning Leg, crouch MP, Lightning Leg, Crouch MP.......

The timing is kinda tricky, I did it in the "Domination" vid thats on Shinjis page. I did it a normal combo, no Tagging, but I'd like to see some varinats of it using Guile as the Tag partner, that could be sweet.

JackTenrac!

05-26-2006, 05:14 PM

I'll probably make it after I do it and everything else...and get the DV Camera again lol

Dan_The Man

05-26-2006, 11:03 PM

why did arika sh1t on jack and giest?
damn!

DavDz

05-26-2006, 11:26 PM

Which character is recommended for Beginners in Street Fighter Ex 2. I have Street Fighter Ex 2 over at my local theater. I tried using Hayate, but the stick was jammed on the player 1 side and I didn't fare so well.

Ps- I tried everything for Zinc, from the DOS Window, to The Front End, and it still wont work. Any help?

ShinjiGohan

05-26-2006, 11:34 PM

D.Dark is pretty good for beginners.

For zinc, make sure you have the bios as well as correct rom sets.

Infested Jester

05-27-2006, 04:33 AM

why did arika sh1t on jack and giest?
damn!

Shadow Geist isn't bad in EX3....where are you getting your info?

Donkus

05-27-2006, 06:04 AM

If anyone finds a use for his air 720 super or kick momentary, let me know.

Infested Jester

05-27-2006, 06:14 AM

If anyone finds a use for his air 720 super or kick momentary, let me know.

Air 720 can be comboed from Daruns Power Ingra Bridge, other than that I've never used it in a match.

Kick Momentray for pressure of course.....jump HK, crouch MK, QCF+kick, Momentray P, Momentary LK. You can skip the QCF+kick and go straight to Momentary LK from QCF+P, its a great way to gain frame advantage, set up pressure/mind games from a blocked QCF+P, and to build meter. Don't forget you can Super Cancel from it after he lands which is where the mix ups come in. Momentary LK is almost a must when playing Shadow at high level play.

DavDz

05-27-2006, 01:04 PM

I use Aldo's Front-End for Zinc. I have the Firmware and everything, and it doesn't start up. Do I need other bios as well? and what about those graphic plugins? are they neccesary to have zinc start correctly?

Ps- Oddly enough, I was about to pick D.Dark as well, but settled for Hayate

ShinjiGohan

05-27-2006, 11:03 PM

fireware.zip is for the older zinc (0.9), for 1.1 you need separate bios files, and by default zinc should come with 2 graphic plugins.

the bios for SFEX 1 is cpzn1 (aka capcom zn1)
the bios for SFEX 2 is cpzn2 (aka capcom zn2)

ShinjiGohan

06-11-2006, 01:14 AM

Taking this thread in a different direction (slightly)

Heres my opinion of D.Dark.

SFEX (Ex, EX+ and EX+a)

Good
Potential unblockable is good as is being able to combo a c.mp to c.mk (he loses this ability it at least EX3 if not eariler)

Bad
Can't combo into Dark Wire :mad:, and only 5 frames in invinciblity of his Kill Blade (DP) make it unreliable as an AA, or even reversal.

EX2 (EX2 and EX2+)

Good
Combo into dark wire finally, Kill Wire (DP) is good if done earily, plus excel goodness, and still variations of the unblockable thanks to guardbreak. Gained an interesting juggling super

Bad
Still sucks that he lost his Kill Bade, even if it was flawed. Can't combo c.mp to c.mk without it being meaty.

EX3

good
momentary pressure, combo into dark wire still, gains kill blade back as a momentary for some good damage and meter building, meaty surprise blow will still combo even if it doesn't it a crouching opponent

bad
loses c.mp to c.mk (now as to do c.lk and thats only like 1 frame of lee-way), still can't do kill blade by itself anymore :(

This was kinda like a pro and con of the different versions of characters.

ShinjiGohan

06-12-2006, 09:38 PM

Thanks to preppy I got a shipment of EX items.

First thing is my 3rd SFEX+a PSX guide... sadly all 3 do not include frame data.

2nd item is a jap copy of EX2+ for PSX and a 2nd copy of the EX2 mook (can't seem to find a guide book or mook for EX2+ though :( )

3rd item is a japanese arcade SFEX board with mobo. Within the ram of the mobo it had all the characters... I then tried to see if it'd work with my USA EX+ board and it did. However when I put the jap EX board the game data was gone. Apparently when you switch boards it flushes out the ram. At this point there isn't much point in putting the EX board again until I get another zn1 motherboard. So I'm keeping the USA EX+ board in there so I can eventually unlock the time release characters.

Thus far I'm going to bring the EX+ board to MWC, so to any of you goto MWC, you'll see me there.