How to beat cammy?

[popoblo]

i play against a really good cammy all the time, and the little slut just rips me apart mostly. i usually lose both of my R1's (against his R1 cammy), and it's just too much for me to come back from. he usually either plays A or K cammy, which is either a turtle/random HK/cannon spike jumps, or rushdown with maximum reach standing hk and random short jumps.

i play a really good chun li myself, and i try to use crouching mk on the ground and crouching hk for AA purposes, but the fight is just so hard.

any anti-cammy strats or counter characters would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

[Burghy]

My cammy fears most a good Ryu.

[kcxj]

Cammy's an easy mode character. I try not to match up Bison or Blanka when I play against her. I like using Sagat, Chun-li, and Sakura though. Sakura especially. For once, Cammy doesn't just plain control the ground to the point of making me feel sick. Use RC LP/MP fireballs, RC MK hurricanes, and walk back s.HK. But do beware of Cammy jumping in over your attack or behind you. You're very vulnerable after any time you whiff an RC with Sak. Know your ranges without having to think.

Vega is a very good Cammy counter too. It use to be the other way around, but now Cammy sucks against Vega. She can't do a thing about Vega running away and RCing claw roll specials on the ground all day. The most common (and safe) counter against RC claw rolls is roll through them yourself. But Cammy has a bad roll... put two and two together.

Anybody else have anything when fighting against her? I also like using Iori, Hibiki, and Akuma if anybody has anything with those characters.

[kcxj]

Originally posted by popoblo
i play a really good chun li myself, and i try to use crouching mk on the ground and crouching hk for AA purposes, but the fight is just so hard.

I never use d.MK anytime when I play Chun. d.MP is just so much better. The only three moves on the ground I use versus cammy:

-s.MP. You can freely poke with s.MP xx any strength fireball anytime you want against Cammy. Her roll is too slow to punish it and the block/hit stun from the MP makes it so Cammy can't drill under the FB either.

-d.MP. Use this when Cammy levels gaps in her attack patterns (even though those gaps are infuriatingly small sometimes). After a blocked close s.HP for example. Chill for the 9 frames or whatever until the block stun wears off. Then if Cammy tries to walk up and close s.HP again, you can counter hit her with d.MP if Cammy so much as flinches on a button.

-RC HP fireball. This move is so good. I had no idea! (until I could actually do it without messing up half the time :lol: ) You get the frame advantage when it's blocked. Even better when it hits (ie. you went through Cammy when she tried to s.HK you). Just don't whiff it that's all. Even though the recovery feels like it's close to zero practically, a good, non-scrub Cammy can s.HK xx super you after.

Don't try to cross Cammy up with Chun too much. It's difficult with Cammy's walk speed and small height.

d.HK everything Cammy does from the air too. I even d.HK against dive kicks. Against Sakura, I run far, far away... but against Cammy, it's OK.

[Gwai Lo ½]

Her roll might be too slow to punish the s.mp but it is fairly easy to go from a blocking animation to a rc spiral... so if the person is decent at alll in rcing then s.mp xx fireball isnt exactly always safe..

[white shadow]

Use Eagle.:p

[VegasMagic]

Well, I could tell you how to beat Chris Rose's Cammy, but......how would I know?

[Mummy-B]

Pick K Groove.

Pick Sagat.

[RagingStormX]

Chun-li's s.lk should stuff cammy's s.rh. Iori does real good against cammy for 3 reasons:

Ground fireball: You can pretty much zone cammy with this, and it some her from doing cannon drills. Cammy only can jump, roll, hooligan com., or dash over it, most of which he can punish.

RC Rekkas: She can't do shit to this really, but jump away. Her roll is too bad, if she rolls free combo.

High priority: Alot of Iori's moves will stuff or trade in his favor. s.mk works good.

Anyone with a ground fireball does decently also, especially Rugal.

[Burghy]

Your strategies make sense, except against K Cammy. K Cammy can easily JD those things or short jump to punish. This is why K Cammy is powerful.

Also K-sagat isn't as powerful against Cammy as it may seem. All depends on the player's skills.

The characters I most fear when using my Cammy are either Sagat, Cammy, or A-Sakura.

[Gwai Lo ½]

i have trouble with a-sak vs cammy still. mind sharing what gives you problems? :D

[RagingStormX]

That is also why P-cammy and p/k-Hibiki are good. If you can jd or parry well it takes away some of there weaknesses.

[popoblo]

Originally posted by VegasMagic
Well, I could tell you how to beat Chris Rose's Cammy, but......how would I know?

lol, who is this?

and white shadow, cammy is one of eagle's harder matches IMO. he owns the little whore when she jumps no doubt (with either standing mp for divekicks or cr hp for anything else), but her ground game is a little better than his. it's definitely winnable, but it's still a tough matchup.

and thanks for the advice kcxj. another reason why chunners can't crossup cammy is because her cannon spike is practically a homing missile:lol:

[solo52182]

alright heres the best character against cammy belive it or not joe as soon as you pick joe there gonna think double hurracan or how ever you spell it, anyways but in order for this to work you have to use hes knee upercut so make sure your good at it and hes knee uppercut should stuff just about anything she has. pardon my spelling im just a mexican

[kcxj]

Originally posted by solo52182
alright heres the best character against cammy belive it or not joe as soon as you pick joe there gonna think double hurracan or how ever you spell it, anyways but in order for this to work you have to use hes knee upercut so make sure your good at it and hes knee uppercut should stuff just about anything she has. pardon my spelling im just a mexican

bahaha!!! :lol:

You're Mexican.

[Burghy]

My cammy is afraid of A Sakura because I don't know how to deal with RC fireball things. And because like, it's like, totally dude.

[white shadow]

Eagle's MP Counter owns Cammy, plus his C.MK owns Spiral Arrow.:D

[Jose 2.0]

i found the perfect way to beat cammy.

use rugal

roll cancel his wall grab

let them come to u

[Burghy]

Jose 2.0 is smart.

[Philth]

Originally posted by Gwai Lo ½
i have trouble with a-sak vs cammy still. mind sharing what gives you problems? :D

If youre A-Sak I got 1 word for you.

ACTIVATE.

[Mummy-B]

Originally posted by white shadow
Eagle's MP Counter owns Cammy, plus his C.MK owns Spiral Arrow.:D

If you're using c.mk to stuff random Spiral Arrows, then you're playing a shitty Cammy.

[Burghy]

basically, just pick anyone with huge damage and high priorty moves, and trade with Cammy.

This post is sort of useless but I'm testing out my new sig.

[white shadow]

Originally posted by Mummy-B


If you're using c.mk to stuff random Spiral Arrows, then you're playing a shitty Cammy.

No they're not random, they're baited or well distanced. I have to deal with pokes mostly, The Cammys I've been playing are K-Groove so RCing isn't there for them. :D

[SSJGogeta]

Hmmm let's see.... considering this is my cammy he made the thread I might be able to help people to beat her.....

1. Rule of Thumb when fighting cammy .... Don't get knocked down... She'll be all over your ass after the fact. That means don't repeatedly jump in unless you plan to just defend or parry, and block low at which you are a half screen or low cannon drill length away from her I'm going to do anything to get in on you and if you do block the very end of my cannon drill don't try to attack cause a DP is about to hit you in the face. Don't let me get close to you this includes dive kick into standing fierce to smack you in the face for thinking about hitting me in my 0 recovery dive kick.

2. When in the corner DO NOT I REPEAT do not try to jump out of it . Do whatever you have to but don't jump. This means Block do a RC a CC a PSY. DP anything to get the bitch off your ass. Try not to roll as I'm expecting that after my insanely fast recovering pokes you'll just end up in the corner again for me to either gaurd crush you or whatever I like considering I know your desperate to get out of the corner.

3. Don't try to jump in on me when I have super bar. CCs and Vertical Drills HURT.

4. RC drills will punish your fireballs. As will my insane priority pokes after I have knocked you down.

5 Learn the players poke strings Everyone has one with her. Even INO had one when I played and beat him a few times in casual. I find that 90% of cammy's will standing rh after a blocked st fierce. Thats when you Fucking Slam the Buttons and DP that shit out of there. Don't just sit there and take it. Learn when you have frame advantages against her.

And 6: if you use a character like sagat blanka Vega(claw) or anyone that can turtle at Far ranges DO IT!! Cause keeping cammy off you is the key to winning. Make her come to you and punish her jump ins random cannondrills and such with Anti Air. and you'll do good. But BEWARE JUST DEFENSE! And if I do start just defending your anti airs, don't anti air try to instead throw me as soon as I hit the ground cause im expecting to JD and when I dont Im vulnerable to your throw.

Hmm Lvl 1 chunnli super into FOLLOW up= Rage in K = your death

Umm that's about it for now if I think of anything else i'll post.

Her bad matchups almost arent existant in K groove JD is too good K I believe is her best groove. IORI RC rekkas however are different story.

[kcxj]

It's impossible not to get knocked down when fighting against Cammy or against any other character for that matter. I think it's pointless to be saying something like that. Not trying to jump out of corners too... When any character has you zoned (ie. they're just outside attack range) and your back is to the corner, they're waiting for you to try and jump out. All Cammy has to do is press HK and you're stuck back down again. Jump out when they don't expect it and they're not ready to anti-air instead (like when they want to walk forward and hit with a low attack for example). Bison is best at this. His jump is really high. The only character I wouldn't try to jump out of the corner against is Blanka (his j.HP is cheap). Against Cammy, I have no reservations.

I don't like psychic DP against Cammy either. Everytime you whiff, you eat at least a s.HK (which sucks).

I think Iori RC punches are really good against Cammy. Does anybody know if Cammy can hit him for free after a JD though? I'm not the least bit scared of RC spiral arrow btw... I think that move sucks. I never do Ryu sweep xx fireball where there's a big hole in the middle, and if Cammy tries to RC spiral arrow in footsies, then I think that Cammy player sucks. I jump straight up, she wiffs, and I get a free combo instead.

[artoflife]

ok i have a few points that'll make burghy proud

7. dont put money into the machine anymore
8. press cammy's start button

[Burghy]

press cammy's start button

Sexy.

[VegasMagic]

kcxj-leghtye, dude.......wtf are you talking about?

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I don't like psychic DP against Cammy either. Everytime you whiff, you eat at least a s.HK (which sucks).

UMMMM....wtf do you think a Psychic DP is??? You just randomly DP? I mean hello....he says before that, every cammy player has poke strings...so if you learn the poke strings, you can DP (if you are a DP character) in between pokes....so i dunno what you are trying to get at with that statement.

[Sage]

Originally posted by VegasMagic
kcxj-leghtye, dude.......wtf are you talking about?

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I don't like psychic DP against Cammy either. Everytime you whiff, you eat at least a s.HK (which sucks).

UMMMM....wtf do you think a Psychic DP is??? You just randomly DP? I mean hello....he says before that, every cammy player has poke strings...so if you learn the poke strings, you can DP (if you are a DP character) in between pokes....so i dunno what you are trying to get at with that statement.

Yeah wtf is that dude talking about!? just cannon spike that shit DSP style. cannon spike, cannon spike, cannon spike, cannon spike!!!

[popoblo]

lol, thanks chris, kcxj, and frank.

hey chris, we gotta get together and play sometime, i just wish my damn computer was fixed. i'm at the library right now:mad:

[Strapazon]

I play mostly with C-Ken and i always have trouble against cammy. is it hopeless to match ken with cammy? :( if not could someone help me out with some tactics such as how to punish what?

[Binarystar]

I think/heard Kens c.strong is great against cammy.