View Full Version : need a 3rd for an a-groove team
player
09-09-2003, 10:44 AM
ok, so far, i got ?/sakura/vega. need help. i've been usin blanka lately, but i lose so much against my bro's team(guile/cammy or chun/sagat). all them counter blanka badly. any advice would be great.
Philth
09-09-2003, 12:08 PM
Which Vega?
Bison if its claw.
If not, then try Ken, he is pretty dope in A.
Evil Hoshi
09-09-2003, 12:10 PM
iori?
ChainReaction
09-09-2003, 02:15 PM
how about Sakura, Bison(dictator) or Hibiki?
MegaZangief
09-09-2003, 04:07 PM
Eagle...
EDIT:
Let me explain why Eagle I think would be a good choice... First of all he is a VERY underrated character in my opinion. He has range and priority. Because of that he can stand up to Cammy's and Sagat's ground game. C.FP is a great anti air, his lariat is even better if you can RC. He also has a very easy custom, can be set up numerous ways, or just used to punish: Up Close... I go S.Rh, S.Rh, S.Rh, S.Fp, HCF.Mk x N, super... It deals a very nice amount of damage.
RitZbArO
09-09-2003, 04:13 PM
try guile..just get him in the corner..and start barraging his ass w/sonic boom after sonic boom...
NinjMai
09-09-2003, 05:47 PM
Try Athena. She has a good CC, and can build meter up fast enough to where you can probably do her CC at least twice or save it for your next char (I'd not put her last in A-groove until I'm sure I can stand a chance. She's all right in A, but not one of the better players.)
-NinjMai
G-R0C
09-09-2003, 06:23 PM
eagle/bison(look-a-like communist)/sakura have the most damaging A groove combos.
epsilon_
09-09-2003, 08:48 PM
Well Bison(paint-the-fence), not Iori though because he really has so many more options with run, low jump, and counter movement.
Ouroborus
09-09-2003, 08:59 PM
Rolento
Bison
Iori
Chun Li
Blanka
Hibiki
Ken
Joe
G-R0C
09-10-2003, 02:55 PM
TODO TODO TODO!!!! his A groove combo hurts tons!!
Yushiro
09-10-2003, 05:22 PM
Iori, Bison, Nakoruru, Haohmaru, Kyo, Blanka, Rolento, Hibiki, Athena, Eagle, and Ken.
Jeff1
09-11-2003, 01:55 PM
just play sagit =\
epsilon_
09-12-2003, 07:50 PM
A Rolento is crap nowadays, because he has no solid CC setups, and A is probably sagats 2nd worst groove.
Trick
09-12-2003, 10:48 PM
Iori/Ken/Kyo/Terry/Bison(non claw)Chun-Li/Akuma/ cuz they have so many options for doing good full customs. (Me and some other guys from CO are in the process of making a vid. seriously we have like at least 8 different combos for each person. were at the point where we do combos for flash in tourneys)
If you want easy then pick
Ken/Iori/Kyo/Guile/Maki/Rock/Todo/Vega (Claw)
This is my my opinion. I'd say Ken/Kyo or Iori because they have basic customs that can lead to some "oh my gosh thats possible?" shit.
epsilon_
09-13-2003, 07:42 AM
A-Guile is fucking horrible... He's only good in C and hes ok in N.
Originally posted by epsilon_
A-Guile is fucking horrible... He's only good in C and hes ok in N.
A-Guile's not that bad. A Japanese who played him made top 8 at SBO. I have no problem using him in A-groove :D .
popoblo
09-13-2003, 11:43 AM
yea A-guile is an excellent battery character, too bad his CC isn't that damaging. and Aojiru used A-guile/bison (psycho power)/R2 todo. his bison is really solid/smart.
and guile's not that bad in K either...
Originally posted by epsilon_
A Rolento is crap nowadays, because he has no solid CC setups, and A is probably sagats 2nd worst groove.
:lol: :lol:
What's with all your posts? You just keep writing stuff and I just keep getting offended for some pointlessly stupid reason. A-Rolento is still his best groove in my opinion. Roll cancels let you run away safely, his level 1 is instant and totally unpunishable up close, he builds meter like crazy with b+KK as you land pogo hops, and his alpha counter is intact in A.
Sagat has the most damaging DP cancel anti-air CC in the entire game. Every Sagat is equally powerful in my opinion. They just have different playing styles that's all. Shouldn't go around dismissing characters all over the place just because you don't play so good with them at first...
Ouroborus
09-13-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by epsilon_
A Rolento is crap nowadays, because he has no solid CC setups, and A is probably sagats 2nd worst groove.
:wtf:you have no fuckin idea what you are talkin about.
yes he has no solid combos or setups into CCs, but he still can land his CC easier than most characters.
have you ever fought against a runaway rolento? annoying isnt it? what would you do against him? try to rush him down? thats what he wants you to do. next thing you know, you'll eat a trip guard CC and lose 60% health.
try to turtle against him back? he can get in just as easily via scouter jump and CC activation.
what makes him so dangerous is the ability to runaway with stored meter. think of storm from MvC2. Storm can still runaway even though she is behind because all she needs to do is connect a lightning attack or a launcher to get back in the lead. same goes with rolento.
this is also the same reason why i think A rolento is better than C. C rolento has more acess to alpha counters and an air block, but why give up a great CC for an air block and an inferior super?
btw, Rolento can combo into his CC with either j.hk, j.hp, j.mp, j.mk, j.d+mk, anti air knife, anti air rolly polly move all
epsilon_
09-13-2003, 02:29 PM
Rolento is better in C groove becuase of plentiful alpha counters and a good lv2 cancel, and I'm sorry if I offended you with my opinion, but the reason I think A Rolento is crap because many other A chars outclass him, and hes better in C.
epsilon_
09-13-2003, 02:36 PM
And Kcxj since when does my playing skill have anything to do with how good a character is in a groove. I didn't say A sagat sucked, I know about his 8500+ AA CC I'm just saying he's BETTER in C, K, and N. And jps who placed in the top 8 at SBO using obscure"low tier" characters have NOTHING to do with a random dude looking for a 3rd on his A team...
What's Rolento's level 2 cancel?
No offense intended with my replies guy. Can't say anything about the other reply you got though... :lol:. Anyway, I'm sure you're a CvS2 beast, so nothing personal. No need to call me out by name like that.
Ouroborus
09-13-2003, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by epsilon_
Rolento is better in C groove becuase of plentiful alpha counters and a good lv2 cancel, and I'm sorry if I offended you with my opinion, but the reason I think A Rolento is crap because many other A chars outclass him, and hes better in C.
translation: rolento is better in C groove because some top japanese user used him in C groove.:rolleyes:
who outshines Rolento in A groove? I can think of Sakura, Bison, maybe Blanka but hes just that damn good overall. Thats 3 characters? who else?
rolento has a level 2 cancel? and do you really think his supers are better than his CC? cuz if you do, you are on crack.
RagingStormX
09-15-2003, 05:32 AM
After a lvel 2 trip wire you do the roll back jump foward smack with stick thing. I think it's a qcb+p,p.
Gwai Lo ½
09-15-2003, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by kcxj
his level 1 is instant and totally unpunishable up close
I dont think his level 1 is totally unpunishable up close. I've definately been punished.
But yea, I definately think that a-rolento has more chances for damage than c-rolento.
RagingStormX
09-15-2003, 08:55 AM
There is no way to punish the level 1 trip wire super, up close it has instant recovery. In S-groove, when right next to them, you can keep doing the level 1 and in they do anything but jump or roll they get hit.
Burghy
09-15-2003, 09:13 AM
I know that level 3 tripwire super can definitely be punished. This is because the blocked tripwire has almost no block stun at all. You recover instantly.
Ricky O and Arturo went down to the south and beasted on the GA players with joke teams at their local tourney. One of the joke characters included C-Rolento. Therefore, C-Rolento is the new top tier, unbeatable hero to them crazy southerners now. Forget Blanka...
*single tear rolls down shinblanka's eye* ---> he's top tier because he does level 2 into level 1 with r4 Blanka.
Gwai Lo ½
09-16-2003, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by Burghy
I know that level 3 tripwire super can definitely be punished. This is because the blocked tripwire has almost no block stun at all. You recover instantly.
im pretty sure its the same for the level 1. I know ive been as close as possible, its blocked, like, immediately after ive been attacked...
edit: the block stun is deceiving.
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