Cammy match video

[Burghy]

http://www.denjinvideo.com/

Scroll down near the bottom to Nakano vs Combofiend.

Watch this video!

I hope after reading my guide you will never play like this again. Anyway, this will be a good video to analyze to see because many common Cammy mistakes were committed here.

I will do an analysis after I finish the guide.

[kcxj]

Hahaha, that guy sucks. His s.HK's kept losing to the elite sigley strategy of sweep x 100. No point using his FREE supers either right? Better to just press s.HP or d.MK or nothing instead...

[Burghy]

Ok here's a brief outline of the fight!

The match concerned is K-Cammy vs A-Rock. It begins at 00:30.

The first mistake is made at 00:31. Here, Cammy does a Spiral Arrow to begin the match. The risk/reward is not in your favour. Many people jump vertically to begin matches because that's a safe thing to do. Then if you foolishly did a spiral arrow, they will combo you.

For the next 5 seconds, this is standard Cammy play (i.e. whore st HK). Then at 00:37 Cammy does cr MK -> spiral arrow. This is acceptable because a) Rock has no anti-air move since he is not charged, and b) most people won't roll through the spiral arrow the first time.

However, a few seconds later Cammy does another two cr MK -> spiral arrow. This cannot be recommended! Horrible of the century. She does do the just defend though (you should always do this after a blocked spiral arrow because it's riskless).

Around 00:49 Cammy throws Rock with punch throw. We prefer to throw with kick because then we can maintain the momentum and do huge damage to Rock, not to throw with punch and then be far away after he safe falls.

After Cammy gets raged, Cammy does a common K groove mistake: jumping all the time when raged. Never do this. Instead, make a huge cardboard sign saying "I am really predictable, please anti-air CC me" and place it in front of you instead

At 00:58 Cammy whiffs a standing roundhouse. We don't recommend doing this against good players. (Against crappy players they try to retaliate but they choose the wrong move, and their sprite moves forward and gets counter hit by the st HK and bam! you cancel into super for huge damage)

Cammy then gets caught by a random CC activation. Maybe not so random but who knows what these crazy A groove players think?! I can't say it was a huge mistake because I would have done that too. However Cammy has no excuse at 01:05 for mis-timing the wake-up. Bad Cammy.

Then at 01:12 we see Cammy freak out and do HK cannon spike for no reason at all! Even though Cammy managed to get Rock with a lucky cannon spike afterwards, we don't recommend this. Then Cammy messes up an attempted cr MK -> spiral arrow to punish the Rock elbow.

Later Cammy gets a cr MK countered by Rock's crack counter. This was a pretty dumb on Rock's part though, but maybe the Cammy was too freaked out and just spazzed on random buttons and got predictable.

So: to recap. Lessons to learn here:

1) Don't randomly do spiral arrow.
2) Don't mess up your combos.
3) Don't randomly do HK cannon spikes.
4) Don't mess up your wake-up cannon spike/supers.
5) Don't freak out.
6) Don't whiff pokes.
7) Don't jump all day when raged.
8) Do throw with kick throw, not punch throw.
9) Do press HP a lot.

[pain]

good stuff = P.... do you have an example of GOOD Cammy play?:D

[popoblo]

Originally posted by pain
good stuff = P.... do you have an example of GOOD Cammy play?:D

watch just about any vid of Ino's rushdown K-cammy or ricky ortiz's turtling cammy (either C/A).

[Burghy]

Hi.

Where can I obtain a video of this Ricky Ortiz turtle Cammy?

Thanks.

[popoblo]

NEC3/ECC8 DVD's. or get on the go for broke hub on direct connect and search for his vid's. just imagine a cammy playing perfect footsies with only using rh, walking back and forth, cannon spiking jump ins, and doing rh xx super if needed.

(i'm not saying it's that simple what he's doing, but that's the basic idea)

[DooM]

on the NEC trailer u see him vs Ino.... not a long match, but still pretty good, ull get to see what a good cammy ons, right at the end he cannen spikes jumps ins and all... everything is rh and all... he be good

[Burghy]

Hi.

How do I use this goforbroke hub?

Newbie question. plzkthx.

[popoblo]

Originally posted by Burghy
Hi.

How do I use this goforbroke hub?

Newbie question. plzkthx.

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/thread16592.php

that has all the info you need. i'd say the biggest problem most people have starting off is that they don't put it in passive mode. but just follow the directions and ask any questions there and you'll be up in no time.

[Alphastorm]

Originally posted by kcxj
Hahaha, that guy sucks. His s.HK's kept losing to the elite sigley strategy of sweep x 100. No point using his FREE supers either right? Better to just press s.HP or d.MK or nothing instead...

Atleast his cammy was better than his blanka. It's not smart to do non-rc ball rolls up close. And instead of c.rh, he should've supered the guy after he broke his guard. I have never seen a K-blanka so afraid of attacking. He should have played C blanka, it fits his style more.

[Burghy]

Ok! I found a non-sucky Cammy!
But I don't have a link because it's from the Evo 2003 thing. You have to buy the DVD and do crazy stuff like that to see it!

Anyway, it's the Justin Wong vs Jason Cole matchup. Justin's Cammy is good. Yeah.

Also you can see how Ino and Daigo play Cammy. But that's like crazy combo rushdown Cammy and takes insane amounts of skill. I'm not going to bother with that because a) you probably will screw it up under tourney pressure, and b) if you're so good, go play A-Blanka/Sakura/Bison instead.

I am open to links to videos that are free, though, so we can all enjoy and stuff.

[TalbainEric]

Heh,I rule with Cammy in CvS2. I'm sure a lot of Cammy players are better than I am. But I think I'm fairly decent. I once spent almost two hours at my arcade whipping players left and right with my team of Cammy,Maki and Morrigan.

[Burghy]

You rule.

[TalbainEric]

*LOL* Thanks. :D

Yeah,Cammy is one of the easiest and most versatile characters to use. I've seen some really good Cammy players in the past. From CvS2 and MvC2.

[digdoug006]

Originally posted by Burghy
Ok here's a brief outline of the fight!

The match concerned is K-Cammy vs A-Rock. It begins at 00:30.

The first mistake is made at 00:31. Here, Cammy does a Spiral Arrow to begin the match. The risk/reward is not in your favour. Many people jump vertically to begin matches because that's a safe thing to do. Then if you foolishly did a spiral arrow, they will combo you.

For the next 5 seconds, this is standard Cammy play (i.e. whore st HK). Then at 00:37 Cammy does cr MK -> spiral arrow. This is acceptable because a) Rock has no anti-air move since he is not charged, and b) most people won't roll through the spiral arrow the first time.

However, a few seconds later Cammy does another two cr MK -> spiral arrow. This cannot be recommended! Horrible of the century. She does do the just defend though (you should always do this after a blocked spiral arrow because it's riskless).

Around 00:49 Cammy throws Rock with punch throw. We prefer to throw with kick because then we can maintain the momentum and do huge damage to Rock, not to throw with punch and then be far away after he safe falls.

After Cammy gets raged, Cammy does a common K groove mistake: jumping all the time when raged. Never do this. Instead, make a huge cardboard sign saying "I am really predictable, please anti-air CC me" and place it in front of you instead

At 00:58 Cammy whiffs a standing roundhouse. We don't recommend doing this against good players. (Against crappy players they try to retaliate but they choose the wrong move, and their sprite moves forward and gets counter hit by the st HK and bam! you cancel into super for huge damage)

Cammy then gets caught by a random CC activation. Maybe not so random but who knows what these crazy A groove players think?! I can't say it was a huge mistake because I would have done that too. However Cammy has no excuse at 01:05 for mis-timing the wake-up. Bad Cammy.

Then at 01:12 we see Cammy freak out and do HK cannon spike for no reason at all! Even though Cammy managed to get Rock with a lucky cannon spike afterwards, we don't recommend this. Then Cammy messes up an attempted cr MK -> spiral arrow to punish the Rock elbow.

Later Cammy gets a cr MK countered by Rock's crack counter. This was a pretty dumb on Rock's part though, but maybe the Cammy was too freaked out and just spazzed on random buttons and got predictable.

So: to recap. Lessons to learn here:

1) Don't randomly do spiral arrow.
2) Don't mess up your combos.
3) Don't randomly do HK cannon spikes.
4) Don't mess up your wake-up cannon spike/supers.
5) Don't freak out.
6) Don't whiff pokes.
7) Don't jump all day when raged.
8) Do throw with kick throw, not punch throw.
9) Do press HP a lot.

ok first of all, i was wondering, who the fuck are you? i haven't been updated on the cvs2 scene much, or any other fighting games for the matter, only the well known people. have u won or placed in any tournaments, with good people? cuz u seem to talk so fuckin much, like u know this game inside out.

second, wtf the is point of watching a shitty cammy? there's nothing to fuckin learn here. your recap shit is just reiteration of telling people not to do what the guy did, and they can just watch the video. combofiend is good at cvs, he might have actually anticipated what the cammy guy was gonna do. don't mess up your combos? wtf kinda stupid ass obvious advice is that? don't freak out? how the fuck can u tell how that guy's expressionn is a freaked out look, by looking at a rh cannon spike? am i the only one that feels this way about this guy?

then again, who knows, he just might turn out to be combofiend himself, or someone who's pretty good at this game. or not.

[Gwai Lo ½]

Who cares who he is? Read it what he has to say and if you dont like his advice dont take it, if he says something that sounds like it might work think about it and then use it if you think so too. Obviously people who post here arent going to be right 100% of the time no matter who they are, thats why its a discussion forum so people can discuss not blindly follow.

[Burghy]

I agree with digdoug006. That guy is full of himself. He has an ego the size of California

I just wish people would be able to discuss things without making other players seem like they suck by making fun of their play in videos. I mean videos aren't even at all like real matches as well. I bet if that guy was playing against combofiend he'd get his ass kicked so bad.

[digdoug006]

Originally posted by Gwai Lo ½
Who cares who he is? Read it what he has to say and if you dont like his advice dont take it, if he says something that sounds like it might work think about it and then use it if you think so too. Obviously people who post here arent going to be right 100% of the time no matter who they are, thats why its a discussion forum so people can discuss not blindly follow.


who CARES who he is? well first of all fuckin SMART ASS, it would help a lot if he was someone like alex valle, Gee-O, or INO, or people known like that, in which of course i'm being too optimistic. try out WHAT stuff, his advice is to NOT FUCK UP UR COMBOS, and shit like that. meanwhile he talks all this shit to people like they suck and he's good. if u FUCKIN had to to read his post and my reply, i doubt u would've replied stupidly like u just did. and don't u think i already READ his shit, and that's why i QUOTED and responded to him? u a fuckin noob?

[DooM]

like im gonna listen to you, unless ur combofiend or ino

[kcxj]

That's the attitude guys. Don't bother listening to anyone (unless they're Alex Valle or Gee-O), even if what they say is true or might actually work.

When Cammy presses punch, then qcf+kick, it'll do a two hit combo. Oh shit.. better not listen to that... :confused:

[gbursine]

lol... the word that comes to mind : nuthugger



and i don't care who burghy is at this point. his threads have made my cammy better, and thats all that matters...

[digdoug006]

wow kxcj ur so fuckin funny. y don't u actually tell me something u've learned from this thread, and i'll take it into considering, u stupid fuck. nuthugger? r u flaming because of all the shit i said was true, but u fags dont' like a guy baggin on someone else? i never said it HAD to be ino or valle, at least someone who has actually learned some unique stuff, that I WILL BE ABLE TO discern when i read the post. kxcj, aren't u in fuckin east coast? u suck dick then bitch, i'll bet my life i'll beat the shit ouf of u in cvs2. all you do is post stupid shit too, don't hate cuz u suck at this game. just stfu and think about what i posted, stupid fuck.

[Gwai Lo ½]

Originally posted by digdoug006
wow kxcj ur so fuckin funny. y don't u actually tell me something u've learned from this thread, and i'll take it into considering, u stupid fuck. nuthugger? r u flaming because of all the shit i said was true, but u fags dont' like a guy baggin on someone else? i never said it HAD to be ino or valle, at least someone who has actually learned some unique stuff, that I WILL BE ABLE TO discern when i read the post. kxcj, aren't u in fuckin east coast? u suck dick then bitch, i'll bet my life i'll beat the shit ouf of u in cvs2. all you do is post stupid shit too, don't hate cuz u suck at this game. just stfu and think about what i posted, stupid fuck.

:lol::rolleyes:

[DooM]

ummm wtf i learned like alot of bughys cammy guide...

first i was only m.bison and sagat, then i started cammy, and thnx to his combos listing i now know alot of links and all, im not saying i fkn own, coz i dont, i cant even link a super for christs sake =/ but burghy knows alot of shit bout cammy u wouldnt know -_- and if ur so fkn good, make a FAQ urself u fuckup

[digdoug006]

Originally posted by DooM
ummm wtf i learned like alot of bughys cammy guide...

first i was only m.bison and sagat, then i started cammy, and thnx to his combos listing i now know alot of links and all, im not saying i fkn own, coz i dont, i cant even link a super for christs sake =/ but burghy knows alot of shit bout cammy u wouldnt know -_- and if ur so fkn good, make a FAQ urself u fuckup

not only do u not own, u probly suck dick hard. and if u FUCKIN READ my post, i was talking about the video, not his combos thread or wahtevs. u can't link a super? then get the FUCK outta my face. and no he does not know MORE shit about cammy than me. everyone knows cammy's shit, u fuckin moron. her strats and moves are simple, and u just mix and match the 5-6 stuff she does have. so i don't need to make a faq about this, unless there actually are STUPID SHITTY FUCKS like you, which i hope not.

[noodleman]

buddy, taking shit like this is:

a) going to get you banned.
b) telling everyone here what a huge moron YOU are cause you can't even drop the damn subject?
c) if you don't need the info, why read the forums you super l337 cammy player?
d) you're not good either cause i don't see your name with INO and other good players, so STFU about you knowing shit about cammy.

[DooM]

i mean wtf can i help it im just playing with stick and the fact i live in europe -_-


and how the fuck would i respond to you if i hadnt read your post? thats just not possible

and now u dont need to mafe a faq, coz burghy is covering that part quite alright

[digdoug006]

Originally posted by noodleman
buddy, taking shit like this is:

a) going to get you banned.
b) telling everyone here what a huge moron YOU are cause you can't even drop the damn subject?
c) if you don't need the info, why read the forums you super l337 cammy player?
d) you're not good either cause i don't see your name with INO and other good players, so STFU about you knowing shit about cammy.

a) if talkin shit is gonna get u banned, then at least over half the people in here should've been banned, u dumbfuck.

b)drop the subject? i would if everyone would shut the fuck up then and not reply to people when i'm not talking about them. take YOU, for example.

c) what, i can't just browse around and see if there some NEW info i could come across? did i say i was l337? u fuckin moron, y the fuck are u wasting your time replying u stupid fuck? cuz u wanna be heard like everyone else, now stfu.

d) yeah of course i'm not up there, and ur probly further down than i am. so why don't u shut the fuck up and mind ur own business, fuckin noob. do u even know how to play this damn game? there's not much to learn about cammy, and apparently u didn't know that, so let's just put ur shitty ass on ignore.


ok DOOM or whatevs the fuck your name is, this is for you. i don't give a fuck where u are, what the fuck kinda stick or DICK your using, or blah blah blah. that's great that burghy's cammy guide helped you out, among his other faqs. and no i'm not gonna MAFE another faq. and i guess u didn't understand what i meant my READING THE POST. i meant understading the CONTENT, which is something u blatantly ignored. i guess all you saw was what seemed like flaming, like i'm doing to you now. well i guess you being european might have something to do with it. now go play at your arcade, where noobs like you PWN.

[kcxj]

Dude, calm down. It's people going nuts with the swears and personal insults why more good players don't post here... You're gonna get yourself banned if you keep up with the kind of posts you're making.

[Gwai Lo ½]

I thought this thread died :confused:

[noodleman]

Originally posted by digdoug006


a) if talkin shit is gonna get u banned, then at least over half the people in here should've been banned, u dumbfuck.

Why don't you grow some hair on your body and make some money before talkin shit. You sound like a 5 year old who just learnt how to swear, and using it as every other word for all your sentences.


b)drop the subject? i would if everyone would shut the fuck up then and not reply to people when i'm not talking about them. take YOU, for example.


I'm following the whole cammy thread, when i see new posts, i look at them. I've seen that you don't seem to drop the subject, with point already proven with your posts here.


c) what, i can't just browse around and see if there some NEW info i could come across? did i say i was l337? u fuckin moron, y the fuck are u wasting your time replying u stupid fuck? cuz u wanna be heard like everyone else, now stfu.

You can browse, but you don't need to make moronic posts of profanity about any threads. And if cammy is a simple as you say, why would you look for NEW info about such a simple character? n00b.


d) yeah of course i'm not up there, and ur probly further down than i am. so why don't u shut the fuck up and mind ur own business, fuckin noob. do u even know how to play this damn game? there's not much to learn about cammy, and apparently u didn't know that, so let's just put ur shitty ass on ignore.

Oh no, you've ignored me. I'm sad now. :( look at me going home crying to my mommy. Do you even know how to do the fireball motion? I'll own you for free in CvS2, and i'd get change back.

[digdoug006]

Originally posted by noodleman

Why don't you grow some hair on your body and make some money before talkin shit. You sound like a 5 year old who just learnt how to swear, and using it as every other word for all your sentences.


I'm following the whole cammy thread, when i see new posts, i look at them. I've seen that you don't seem to drop the subject, with point already proven with your posts here.


You can browse, but you don't need to make moronic posts of profanity about any threads. And if cammy is a simple as you say, why would you look for NEW info about such a simple character? n00b.


Oh no, you've ignored me. I'm sad now. :( look at me going home crying to my mommy. Do you even know how to do the fireball motion? I'll own you for free in CvS2, and i'd get change back.


hahahaahhhaahaahhahaha

grow some hair and make money? oh shit that's a classic sign of maturity. start on yourself before you say it to others.

it's not like i dragged on the subject when no one responded. they kept responding, taking my posts outta context, just like you are. and as long as u keep responding, so will i. now why don't YOU drop the subject, and not respond, dumbass.

moronic posts? here, i've replied to one.

actually i was browsing the cammy thread, thinking i could put my two cents into it, but i saw that most of it was there, so i decided not to. aight, noob?

lmao. own me? is that what you like to do? talk? talk talk talk?
and finish it off with a bag, very nice. no i don't think you'd OWN me, much less BEAT me. let the childish shit begin, starting with your response to this one.

[gbursine]

Originally posted by digdoug006



hahahaahhhaahaahhahaha

grow some hair and make money? oh shit that's a classic sign of maturity. start on yourself before you say it to others.

it's not like i dragged on the subject when no one responded. they kept responding, taking my posts outta context, just like you are. and as long as u keep responding, so will i. now why don't YOU drop the subject, and not respond, dumbass.

moronic posts? here, i've replied to one.

actually i was browsing the cammy thread, thinking i could put my two cents into it, but i saw that most of it was there, so i decided not to. aight, noob?

lmao. own me? is that what you like to do? talk? talk talk talk?
and finish it off with a bag, very nice. no i don't think you'd OWN me, much less BEAT me. let the childish shit begin, starting with your response to this one.


weren't u suppose to ignore him??:rolleyes::confused: :bluu: