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JumpsuitJesse
07-22-2004, 06:52 AM
You think thats funny. I fought some guy named JR and he had some skill but nothing I couldn't top. I really started laying into him and then he pulled!

So, then he opens another game session asking for "SSF2 Expert Players" so I open one that says "Its official, JR is a Loser"

So he closes his session...then a minute later someone named "Ryu" joins my session and says "Hey, wait a sec ok"

so I say "Ok"

Then he types "Jumpsuit is a blah blah...you suck" then leaves!

He went through all that trouble to change names n stuff just to insult me! I feel honored! :D:lol:

JumpsuitJesse
07-22-2004, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by a4relzwutazn
aye kicking his ass 10 times in a roll haha okay

Dark Gaiden and Vintage eh lol :)
they are the ones who taught me to play the game xD

=X they should know my skill by now =X I'M GONNA RAPE YOU TWO!! lol xD

jk

Day 1

Gumby does a lot of tick throws man... >_< I can't counter that stuff how do I counter it? he does it so well kind of

like...

Ryu jump hk or mk then walks up to me and throws

simple like that and I'm busting out the c. lk button like mad crazy >_< how do I counter that?

I also faced Atmos he whup me with his Chun and Dhalsim but his Dhalsim is okie =P so is his Chun but I keep getting messed up by Chun's close stand hk

sometimes I don't know what way to block then he can do all sorts of stuff to me like tick throw or repeated c. mks

ahhhh HELP @_@ lol
any help is appreciated thanks in advance :)

Day 2

fought some guy named Dramatics his skill level seems to be around mine at the moment

the final score was 10-5 Dramatics win, lots of Ryu vs. Ryu matches

I'll be back with questions! >_< lol
actually I have one question
when it's Ryu vs. Ryu and I'm corner trapped with fireballs

is it good to miss the lp fireball with a shoryuken or jump back and fight back with a fireball of your own to push him back then jump forward or something bah I'm stuck against Ryu's corner trap also

and Dhalsim's c. lk -> throw after being knocked down from the air @_@ I use Ryu most of the time so Shoryuken is the thing to do right? but when do I do it? sometimes I'm just randomly trying to bust it out whenever but it never works oh well

any help is appreciated!! lol

this is what's happen so far hahaa


Gumby or Gummy?? Anyways, yeah he got alot of those tick throws from both DGV and Me. Once he got the hang of it he started incorporating it into his game....which is cool...I don't mind people biting moves and tactics just don't mimic me like an xcopy robot. But yeah he definitely has a good fight plan and he's a solid fighter. You have to reverse his tick throws. ALL tick throws can be stuff with uppercuts and flashkick type moves...sometimes hurricane kicks. If you are using fighters like DeeJay, Vega, Bison, Honda, Chun Li and Gief you pretty much have to rely on some kind of reversal throw. Thats what sucks about SSF2...in ST all fighters have some kind of wake up reversal...like a super or a counter attack.

Learn which way to block....crossups are deadly in this game so definitely learn how to block them.

As for fireball traps....there are ways to get out of them but you have to guess what speeds the fb's are coming at you. You could do an uppercut through them but you run the risk of being hit on the way down or leaving yourself open to a low sweep or throw. If it were me, I'd be patient and take a few block damage hits from the trap so I can make sure I get out as safely as possible.

And for the Dhalsim tick throw.....that shit is so weak its almost funny. He cant throw you while you are blocking so you have to make sure you are coming up with some sort of reversal(uppercut, flashkick, spd) and stuff his ass! But then it becomes a mind game. He can do low l.kick and NOT throw you and wait for you to do a reversal uppercut....leaving you wide open for another throw or grab. Sim cant take damage for shit, so rush him down at whatever chance you get.

Gen2000
07-22-2004, 09:34 AM
Have you guys messed around with the record function with Zsnes? I recorded a few SMK battle mode matches online just for testing and they came out smooth and the file size is really small (I did 20 rounds of battle mode and it was only 281KB).

Zsnes saves the file a special media file called .zmv and usually gives it a weird name when recording online, like SMK was SUPERM~.zmv, but once offline if you change the name to match your rom name (i.e. SuperMarioKart.zmv), it will play back perfectly. The main problem is that some people have different rom names or other people who wants to watch it don't even own EMU + rom, so you would have to record it through an screencapture type device like HyperCam or Camtasia (I prefer HC) which can output the file in .avi format.

Just thought this would be a good way to add some more life into this Zbattle topic here and thought it would be cool to see how you guys play. I'm not very good at SSF2 atm and usually everyone online only want to play experts so I don't waste their time in playing me. I can go into more detail of the whole process if interested.

Nocturnal
07-22-2004, 12:10 PM
Sabre- I just played some guy with the named "SUP" did the samething to me...it was kinda funny yet dumb at once. Theres always going to be someone like that all the time no matter where it's at. Oh well hope to play some of you guys soon. Later.

Jaime

megaultrasuper
07-23-2004, 07:25 PM
just started playing today. Greatest thing ever.

Thanks to Jumpsuit (post edited)

isamu
07-24-2004, 12:58 PM
So is ZBATTLE working perfectly now? No server crashes or anything like that? When was the lastest version released? What the homepage?

Ryumexicano
07-27-2004, 05:01 PM
I can't connect to the server. It might be down. A lot of good SF and KI player down there. It's very cool to play SF when you have guys with good connectins. Jumpsuit is too good.............................................. .




RYumexicano

headshotz
07-27-2004, 07:17 PM
I played a couple games the other night...got owned for the most part, but the experience was spectacular, compared to Kaillera and the like...i wish there were more people on though :/ how am i supposed to practice if no ones playing?

Question for you zbattle users...

if i want to host a game do i have to load the rom of that game first in zsnes before i select it in zbattle?

Ryumexicano
07-27-2004, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by headshotz
I played a couple games the other night...got owned for the most part, but the experience was spectacular, compared to Kaillera and the like...i wish there were more people on though :/ how am i supposed to practice if no ones playing?

Question for you zbattle users...

if i want to host a game do i have to load the rom of that game first in zsnes before i select it in zbattle?



If you want to host a game, you don't have to select the game for the znes. When you select the game for Zbattle, when the other player joins and loads the game, you will press "Start" and automatically will launch the emulator. You don't have to select the game for the znes first.

If you play Street FIghter, come and join my game some time. My screen name is ComboadictoSF. You can join my MExican friends to whom I gave all the info to play online. Well, they are not that good, but they are learning. They told me they played Jumpsuit. Well, I hope I answered your question.


Ryumexicano

www.comboadictos.com

FOD
07-27-2004, 09:35 PM
Where the heck do I get the damn Zbattle file crap at?? site is down.

Ryumexicano
07-27-2004, 10:01 PM
Everything is down right now........................Can't connect for games too... Hopefully the site will be back tomorrow. Check tomorrow. IF you can't find it, PM and I will help you get those files.



Ryumexicano

SaBrE
07-28-2004, 08:28 AM
anyone speak with veeb0rg yet as to why zbatle is down?

headshotz
07-28-2004, 06:30 PM
It appears that zbattle is back up and running...just an update.

Jude
07-31-2004, 08:03 PM
Thanks for the games the other night Jesse.
I like Honda a lot it just sucks that his worst matchup is by far the most common.

Is there much of anything that he can do if someone just sits right outside of the buttsplash moves(whatever its called) and thorws fireballs all day? I can't jump in, the butt move will get me hit. I think I have to much blockstun to get in a headbutt. I can change the distance but someone smart will just change it back. If anyone knows of anything to do in that situation besides use a different character, help me out.

Also, when I knock someone down and am doing the slap while they get up, can they sneak in a dragon punch or any other move with a lot of invinvibility as a reversal? I've never had it happen but it would be good to know. I know I can get thrown if I stand too close though.

Thanks, I'm just Jude on zbattle as well, so if any of you guys want to fight against Honda a bit come on in.

Ryumexicano
07-31-2004, 11:31 PM
I play sometimes with my Mexican friends. I think we have played you JUde. GGs Jude.. That Gummy dude is good. Jumpsuit is too good, and has a cool personality.


Ryumexicano

www.comboadictos.com

SureYouCan!
08-01-2004, 09:31 AM
whos up for a game rite now?

The Prophitt
08-01-2004, 11:56 AM
Hey Tippy, we need to play GW:ED again. Long time since we last played, I need to own your Shen :evil: Can you guess who this is?

bellreisa
08-01-2004, 02:56 PM
It's official, I suck at OG SF. That's what I get for ignoring Super and ST and everything in between and restarting with A3...

headshotz
08-01-2004, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by bellreisa
It's official, I suck at OG SF. That's what I get for ignoring Super and ST and everything in between and restarting with A3...

its alright lol i get my ass walloped too sometimes, but the way i figure it , enough assbeatings and ill have to improve :D. Im best at ST but obviously i can only play that on laggy ass Kaillera...

SpinalBlood
08-01-2004, 06:35 PM
It's bad that Zbattle requires forwarding ports :(

Vintage
08-05-2004, 01:50 PM
Well...Evo came & went. It was definitely a great affair. Going into it, I figured DG & myself would have people talking about our "setup." And sure enough, we didn't disappoint. Snes PS2 Pads = 2 Good :D Hey Sabre, did you go? If so, we were looking for ya. We were mostly in the BYOC room. Couldn't believe that we were the only ones who were really playing AE. Anyhow, it great playing & meeting guys like Cole, Spence, Ryan Hart, Valle, and others. To any of who you have the opportunity to go next year, I highly recommend that you do go. Quite the experience I must say.

Now, back to Zbattle....

It seems like the server has been going down from time-to-time. Veeb, if you're reading this, care to shed any insight on that...? From the sight of things, should I assume that the level of SF comp has gotten better (DG & myself haven't really been on in the past few weeks)? I've been noticing a flurry of rooms saying "experts." I suppose there is only truly one way to find out :cool:

SaBrE
08-05-2004, 08:20 PM
hmm i thought i mentioned a few weeks that i couldnt go. the person that i was going with decided to not go, so i was kinda left in the dust. so i cancelled my vacation days. but got offered in another ride, but it was too late :( oh well, next year

Mokura
08-10-2004, 11:39 AM
I'm really hopin to see some zmvs of some of the top SF players on ZB someday.

TGC
08-10-2004, 09:38 PM
Can anyone help me with setting up zbattle with a router????

I'm not understanding port forwarding.

Ryumexicano
08-12-2004, 04:16 PM
ANy one wants some matches on Zbattle?


I am down for some matches. Any one!!!!!!


Ryumexicano

#GsT|Deserteur
08-12-2004, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by TGC
Can anyone help me with setting up zbattle with a router????

I'm not understanding port forwarding.

http://www.portforward.com/default.htm

DaliPicard
08-12-2004, 04:41 PM
If I can find a decent PlayStation to USB converter for my MAS stick I want to try this stuff out. The Kailera thing never really worked for me. Laggier than the laggiest XBoX Live match!

bloodriot
08-13-2004, 02:52 AM
I'm getting my T1 line in about 2/3 weeks

but I'm from south africa do you guys think I'd have a chance? I know our global link is Newyork or California, any servers or something you'd recomend

When I was on superfast lan I used to try and play on kalliera but It was laggy and ppl would quit on me all the time :(

lans are slow right?

Can't wait to try and play
SF2 tnc
sfa2

any other games you guys would recomend

Ryumexicano
08-13-2004, 11:05 AM
Killer instinct is famous there too.

You might wanna try SF TUrbo, is cool too. Bomber man!!!! Raiden!! THere are a lot of cool games.


Ryumexicano

eddymasta
08-26-2004, 10:05 AM
K, I need some help freeing the ports required for Zbattle, Cause I have no clue how to do it myself... Is there a program that does it for you? Or maybe a step by step tutorial?

snk dude
08-26-2004, 04:19 PM
you guys are lucky to be able to play on zbattle, I unfortunitely cant do to forwarding the ports(stupid wirerless router). All I can play is against scrubs on kalleria and lag :sad: SF2 comp is what I am after and I know zbattle is the place. I especailly want to face against JSJ, and give his Fe-Long a struggle against my Guile...lol

I'll wipe out brian and become the best Guile player on zbattle.net

If only I could get it to work :sad:

Jobe
08-26-2004, 05:58 PM
I just played a couple sf2Turbo matches. It took me about 10 minutes to get from reading the forum post to actually playing the game. Virtually no lag. Cool peeps.

Dark Gaiden
08-26-2004, 06:42 PM
you guys are lucky to be able to play on zbattle, I unfortunitely cant do to forwarding the ports(stupid wirerless router). All I can play is against scrubs on kalleria and lag :sad: SF2 comp is what I am after and I know zbattle is the place. I especailly want to face against JSJ, and give his Fe-Long a struggle against my Guile...lol

I'll wipe out brian and become the best Guile player on zbattle.net

If only I could get it to work :sad:

You should try these links:


http://www.tucows.com/preview/311666.html
http://www.purenetworks.com/products/

These links should assist you on port forwarding. Of course...I say...just turn the damn router off . :tup:

snk dude
08-26-2004, 10:12 PM
You should try these links:


http://www.tucows.com/preview/311666.html
http://www.purenetworks.com/products/

These links should assist you on port forwarding. Of course...I say...just turn the damn router off . :tup:

thanx, but I tried that already...the defult password(admin) is not working and my dad has the real password. He will notice if the router or if anything has been messed with...

Say, if I were to join someone elses game, then will it work?
I know it worked on kalliera, I was able to enter someones IP addy
and it worked. Then I tried entering my IP and tried creating a
my one hub, but it wouldn't connect.

Dark Gaiden
08-26-2004, 10:38 PM
thanx, but I tried that already...the defult password(admin) is not working and my dad has the real password. He will notice if the router or if anything has been messed with...

Say, if I were to join someone elses game, then will it work?
I know it worked on kalliera, I was able to enter someones IP addy
and it worked. Then I tried entering my IP and tried creating a
my one hub, but it wouldn't connect.

Sorry to ask but...why not just ask your dad for the password? Its for a good cause :clap:

I guess you always could play with TCP as opposed to UDP. TCP usually lags on nationwide matches. But since you're in Cali, we should be able to have a fairly good connection. Just let me know whenever you want to try playing with TCP aka unchecking the UDP enabled box.

Ryumexicano
08-26-2004, 11:56 PM
I'll rape any one for free in ssft2..................I wanna play and learn. Almost no competition when I get on zbattle. join my game

Mexican

snk dude
08-27-2004, 08:56 AM
Sorry to ask but...why not just ask your dad for the password? Its for a good cause :clap:

I guess you always could play with TCP as opposed to UDP. TCP usually lags on nationwide matches. But since you're in Cali, we should be able to have a fairly good connection. Just let me know whenever you want to try playing with TCP aka unchecking the UDP enabled box.

Never mind, I reseted the router and the password worked...hehehe
Now I just have to adjust the udp and tcp ports.

Battousai.
08-28-2004, 09:24 AM
I Challenge you JSJ or anyone else that wants to get owned at SF2 Turbo/CE or SSF2.




(Battosai)

Vintage
08-28-2004, 04:50 PM
Well, it looks like there are definitely more solid plyrs showing up. Too bad we have to deal with the ocassional server BS. Anyway, GGS to Gl0ry, Battosai, Parallax, and all the others I've played recently. On a related note, it would be nice to see Shirts & Cole finally take some initiative and get on the bus :tup:

fatherbrain
08-28-2004, 04:55 PM
AIM me gaiden!

Ryumexicano
08-28-2004, 04:58 PM
To Batousai

Just tell me when, and I'll own you in SSF2 or turbo too, that's if you want! :karate:

KnownasWolf
08-29-2004, 02:13 PM
How is Alpha 2 on zsnes?

I just installed zsnes and tried to play last night but I had to many problems with not having the same roms. So I am trying to get all versions of ssf2 ssf2t ssfce.

Plus I really suck but hope fully this will improve my game when I get owned 1000-0

I play under Wolf so if any one wants to school a scrub just ceatch me on zbattle.

fatherbrain
08-29-2004, 02:15 PM
Ryumexicano! AIM me man! I've been trying to catch you forever.....

Vintage
08-29-2004, 02:50 PM
How is Alpha 2 on zsnes?



A2 on Snes is a joke...not even worth the 10secs to get it

JumpsuitJesse
08-31-2004, 08:33 AM
I Challenge you JSJ or anyone else that wants to get owned at SF2 Turbo/CE or SSF2.




(Battosai)

You must be joking right....DGV git'em!

CE-Guile
09-04-2004, 11:23 PM
Dark Gaden and Vitage... Good Games, Your Ryu and ken were hard to defeat(those are my toughest match ups for my Guile).
JSJ I still challenge you(I am Battosai). JSJ of the subject: do think Hyper SF2 AE is major tourney worthy?
Cole and Kuni says it isn't because its broken,just ban WW mode for crying out loud. I just don't understand how they can't say its a serious tourney game when both of them have had competed at CE and HF and those games were not balenced ether and they were serious games. And to set the record straght, I don't want it to replace ST and I just hope for the game to be in the main line up for Evo 05(nothing wrong with 2 SF2 games, there is 2 tekken games in the line up). If the game does make it in the line up, then I am sure that Schaffer and Tomo will enter, now thats a good enough insentive for me.

Just thougt I'd ask for your opinion bro, I don't have a lot of supporters for Hyper SF2 AE to be in tournaments.

SmoothCat
09-05-2004, 12:16 AM
what time are u guys usally on ?

gl0ry
09-05-2004, 07:36 AM
Well, it looks like there are definitely more solid plyrs showing up. Too bad we have to deal with the ocassional server BS. Anyway, GGS to Gl0ry, Battosai, Parallax, and all the others I've played recently. On a related note, it would be nice to see Shirts & Cole finally take some initiative and get on the bus :tup:

Yeah man. GG's. I want to play you again soon :)

SaBrE
09-05-2004, 11:31 AM
okay, i cant get any feedback off the damn zbattle forums so i'll ask here. anyone try playing anyone with winXP sp2 installed? I've tried everything. ive forwarded the ports in the sp2 firewall, disabled the firewall, everything, won't let me connect. someone has got to have sp2 on their system and has tried it. anyone?

Decoy
09-05-2004, 08:04 PM
Man, I need some help getting on this thing.

A few questions:

1. When I launch ZSNES, I just get a big black box in the center of my screen. What do I do?

2. What is an ideal setup for my directories? Can anyone site some examples?

Thanks in advance.

~Decoy

JumpsuitJesse
09-07-2004, 09:17 AM
Dark Gaden and Vitage... Good Games, Your Ryu and ken were hard to defeat(those are my toughest match ups for my Guile).
JSJ I still challenge you(I am Battosai). JSJ of the subject: do think Hyper SF2 AE is major tourney worthy?
Cole and Kuni says it isn't because its broken,just ban WW mode for crying out loud. I just don't understand how they can't say its a serious tourney game when both of them have had competed at CE and HF and those games were not balenced ether and they were serious games. And to set the record straght, I don't want it to replace ST and I just hope for the game to be in the main line up for Evo 05(nothing wrong with 2 SF2 games, there is 2 tekken games in the line up). If the game does make it in the line up, then I am sure that Schaffer and Tomo will enter, now thats a good enough insentive for me.

Just thougt I'd ask for your opinion bro, I don't have a lot of supporters for Hyper SF2 AE to be in tournaments.

Well, I am still looking forward to our battle. But as for your question....Do I feel SF2 AE to be a tournament worth game? No. I do not and I here is why. The game feels like a novelty. All of the old characters are just too powerful...and I say this because their normals are just super strong it's not even funny! I played last night for several hours and discovered that both New ST Ken and ST Fei Long STRUGGLE against CE Guile. Especially Fei Long....Guile nearly pummels him for free in AE. Now it's different if I am playing Fei vs Super SF2 Guile or ST Guile because they are different.....but CE Guile?? No way dude. His attacks and charge times are fucking sick compared to the later SSF and ST versions of him.

Now the game WOULD be tournament worth if:

Everyone's attacks were evened out...based on one set of damage rules.

2. No redizzies. This ruins the game.

3. Damage. 2 major hits = dizzy?? C'mon....i can understand that happening at random but when it happens consistently it's just terrible. I wish Everyone's attacks were evened out...based on one set of damage rules.

Those are my main gripes about the game. The game is novelty to me. I like it. It's fun. But it is not tournament worthy IMO.

Decoy
09-07-2004, 09:29 AM
CE-Guile, JSJ and anyone else on this tread. I'm finally on Zbattle thanks to Dalipicard. I play mostly HF but I'll play some SSF2 if anyone's down.

Hit me up. My Zbattle tag is: Decoy

~Decoy

CE-Guile
09-07-2004, 03:24 PM
Well, I am still looking forward to our battle. But as for your question....Do I feel SF2 AE to be a tournament worth game? No. I do not and I here is why. The game feels like a novelty. All of the old characters are just too powerful...and I say this because their normals are just super strong it's not even funny! I played last night for several hours and discovered that both New ST Ken and ST Fei Long STRUGGLE against CE Guile. Especially Fei Long....Guile nearly pummels him for free in AE. Now it's different if I am playing Fei vs Super SF2 Guile or ST Guile because they are different.....but CE Guile?? No way dude. His attacks and charge times are fucking sick compared to the later SSF and ST versions of him.

Now the game WOULD be tournament worth if:

Everyone's attacks were evened out...based on one set of damage rules.

2. No redizzies. This ruins the game.

3. Damage. 2 major hits = dizzy?? C'mon....i can understand that happening at random but when it happens consistently it's just terrible. I wish Everyone's attacks were evened out...based on one set of damage rules.

Those are my main gripes about the game. The game is novelty to me. I like it. It's fun. But it is not tournament worthy IMO.

Give me a break dude..I mean no hate toward your opinion JSJ...But I am glad CE Guile is as powerful as he was in his original game...having him evened out wouldn't make any sense except please the whiners who want a "balanced game". CE Guile wouldn't be any different then the other versions, and the WHOLE point of AE is to have the character's versions exactly as they were in their original games. Maybe you feel this way because you are so used to playing ST for so long and have never played CE or HF as long to know CE and HF are the real better SF2 games...The Super games were a mistake made by Capcom.

Besides, did anyone bother complaining about dizzies and characters being too strong back in the Pre SUPER SF2 North vs South Cali era...doubt it, they accepted it and still enjoyed competing at it (competition taken seriously). Having SF 2 games balanced is ridiculous because it would make winning more difficult if you are playing a weak guile (too much work). Playing CE Guile is my opportunity to shine like it did for Tomo and Thomas in pre Super SF2 days and that's what I want a chance to experience (especially since CE and HF are'nt in mainstream competition anymore, if they were I would have no reason to compete at AE)...not having ST as being the last installment of the SF2 series. I agree with Vintage when he said that AE should not have ST version's of characters in the game..just WW through Super.

WHY should any one have their characters weakened for someone else because they have trouble against that character?

I guess you can say we are 2 completely different players with different tastes for OG SF2 JSJ...

Peace (no hate toward your opinion JSJ),

Jarrod McDermott

SaBrE
09-07-2004, 08:58 PM
ce-guile, also realize that those gmaes came out years ago. standards have changed on acceptance. i dont know anyone that really likes dizzies. if you think about em, dizzies are just lame. also realize, peoples skill levels and thought processes were way different back then. like when WW came out, game fucking owned obviously, but look at that game now on its own, its fucking garbage now. standards change.

but i do agree, the characters should be left the way they are. but i also agree with jesse that its just a novelty game. but i do think its totally playable if you just ban ww characters cuz you cant mirror match, which was really gay of capcom to do that, which is another thing pointing to changing standards as i said earlier.

CE-Guile
09-07-2004, 09:41 PM
Very Good Games JSJ...To be honest...I (battosai) only played a couple of matches in the beginning using Guile and Sim (and never won, my gameplan sucked today), then I let my twin brother Jarrod (he has used my login names a few times on srk to write our opinion on AE) take over for the rest of the night until you left, and he played Guile much better at the vs Shoto match ups than I can. We share my login name on zbattle.net like Dark Gaiden and Vintage due.

Hope to play more matches in the future bro.

JumpsuitJesse
09-08-2004, 06:56 AM
Give me a break dude..I mean no hate toward your opinion JSJ...But I am glad CE Guile is as powerful as he was in his original game...having him evened out wouldn't make any sense except please the whiners who want a "balanced game". CE Guile wouldn't be any different then the other versions, and the WHOLE point of AE is to have the character's versions exactly as they were in their original games. Maybe you feel this way because you are so used to playing ST for so long and have never played CE or HF as long to know CE and HF are the real better SF2 games...The Super games were a mistake made by Capcom.

Besides, did anyone bother complaining about dizzies and characters being too strong back in the Pre SUPER SF2 North vs South Cali era...doubt it, they accepted it and still enjoyed competing at it (competition taken seriously). Having SF 2 games balanced is ridiculous because it would make winning more difficult if you are playing a weak guile (too much work). Playing CE Guile is my opportunity to shine like it did for Tomo and Thomas in pre Super SF2 days and that's what I want a chance to experience (especially since CE and HF are'nt in mainstream competition anymore, if they were I would have no reason to compete at AE)...not having ST as being the last installment of the SF2 series. I agree with Vintage when he said that AE should not have ST version's of characters in the game..just WW through Super.

WHY should any one have their characters weakened for someone else because they have trouble against that character?

I guess you can say we are 2 completely different players with different tastes for OG SF2 JSJ...

Peace (no hate toward your opinion JSJ),

Jarrod McDermott

Nah man. No hate felt on my side. Believe me, I was there back in the day pumping quarters into SF1, SF2, SF CE and SF2 HF so it's not a difference in old skool tastes. It's plain as day. Look at the damage that gets dealt by the og characters....If I play SSF 2 Guile and you play SF2 CE Guile and we do some combo observations. You let me jump in and do fierce, low strong, flash kick....I deal 40% damage...no dizzy. You do the same combo on me and you're using CE Guile....You deal 50-60% damage with a dizzy to boot! Whether I get dizzy or not you deal WAY more damage than I do for doing the same amount of work. Who's working harder for the win here? Yeah the game is balanced if i play CE characters against your CE characters. I am all for keeping the characters the EXACT same way as they were in their original games but NOT the damage and dizzy properties. Even if you were to even out the damage and dizzy properties the og characters would still have the edge because of their moves and priorities. I'm no whiner. I am stating my opinion on the game. Of course nobody complained back in the pre SSF2 era because everyone was on the same level and had the same set of game engine rules.

I am not saying the og characters should be weakened....I have no trouble dealing out beatdowns to og characters....but when regular attacks do 3X the damage compared to other fighters in the game.... it's no different than the handicap settings of the old home versions of SF collection. Maybe that handicap was done on purpose?? Who knows. The engine of the game is screwed and that is what makes it a novelty game...

Take for example....New ST Ken's jab DP. Ok, I can walk up and do meaty low forward kick and either throw OR do a jab dp and stuff any kind of reversal attempt. That includes stuffing tiger uppercuts, flash kicks, reversal throws.....ok....I am playing VS a CE Guile player and I do the exact same setup. He flash kicks me CLEAN out of a jab DP....and this was a super deep dp also...in the beginning frames of it. If I recall correctly the ST versions of Ryu and Ken have jab DP's that are invincible during the first few frames of startup. So why does Guile retain his abilities and Ken doesn't? It's the little things like this that screw the game up in old characters' favor.

I simply disagree with you, that's all. Those were very good games last night. your guile is very good.

CE-Guile
09-08-2004, 08:56 AM
I am playing VS a CE Guile player and I do the exact same setup. He flash kicks me CLEAN out of a jab DP....and this was a super deep dp also...in the beginning frames of it. If I recall correctly the ST versions of Ryu and Ken have jab DP's that are invincible during the first few frames of startup. So why does Guile retain his abilities and Ken doesn't? It's the little things like this that screw the game up in old characters' favor.

I simply disagree with you, that's all. Those were very good games last night. your guile is very good.

What you said above is exactly the reason why I want to compete using CE Guile, and in order for that to happen we need SF2 AE to be a serious mainstream tournament game. CE Guile with his high damage is the REAL Guile.

CE-Guile
09-09-2004, 04:28 PM
Is the game server down?...I can't connect to zbattlenet.

Dark Gaiden
09-11-2004, 01:34 PM
GGs to Decoy and Player7. Especially Decoy, since he's a former Xbander :clap:

dramatics
09-11-2004, 02:58 PM
ive got some questions about ssf2 throws, can any of you share your knowledge?

can you..

Throw Somebody before they throw you? (like jump-in RH blocked -> they walk a step, throw) , (close c.Jab, throw) , (Hurricane Kick, throw) ; is it possible(if so, to pull it off consistently?)? is there some kinda rule/godly timing involved, or does the timing change :confused:

Throw on wakeup?

is there..

throw "priority"? meaning like if 2 different characters hit the throw command at the same time, character A would throw character B each time because his higher.

i still have the habit of mashing forward + fierce

Jappo
09-15-2004, 08:25 PM
Is it mandatory to download the latest version of direct?

bellreisa
09-15-2004, 10:04 PM
Hey, dramatics, I played you earlier tonight. :P GG, but kinda laggy. :/

Veeb0rg
09-18-2004, 05:47 AM
Now, back to Zbattle....

It seems like the server has been going down from time-to-time. Veeb, if you're reading this, care to shed any insight on that...?


Lately there has been a jerk that has been using the bugs in the server to crash it. Unfortuatly I'm usually at work when it happens. So the server sits jammed up by this jerk till I can reset it.

He even had the gall to AIM one of the Admins, admit to doing it, and then say "I did it to force the development" When in reality, he's just pissed because his offer to help with the server was turned down.


As for the SP2 Issue. The New firewall that they installed has a bug that denies any unknown service access to a port, sometimes even when "disabled" and doesn't even give you the option to allow it. If anyone knows the fix, Please feel free to PM me or Mail me with it.

Tam
09-26-2004, 10:52 AM
man... going to college... i'm missing out guys... I'm missing out on my time to shine lol

EndLeSS8
09-27-2004, 10:45 PM
I got it, up for SF any, but...so far no one has been on?
err, probably wrong time.

edit: Got it running, but I can't connect, nor can I make a server. My Norton firewall is ok, but is it my SP2 pack? any ideas/ help?
Oh i'm on a laptop, throu wireless router, but it should still work, I think.

moto kikaku
09-29-2004, 10:24 PM
what time do you guys usually play around? im sevenforty

Ryumexicano
09-29-2004, 10:56 PM
I'll challenge any one. I usually up there at night at 10pm (Pacific). I am as "Ryu" or "MExican"


Ryumexicano


I'll take on any one on SF or KI.

Dark Gaiden
09-30-2004, 12:22 AM
I got it, up for SF any, but...so far no one has been on?
err, probably wrong time.

edit: Got it running, but I can't connect, nor can I make a server. My Norton firewall is ok, but is it my SP2 pack? any ideas/ help?
Oh i'm on a laptop, throu wireless router, but it should still work, I think.


So you can't connect to the server (zbattle.net) or you can't connect to your opponent? You should disable your Norton firewall when attempting to play as it oftens inhibits the connection between you & your opponent.

EndLeSS8
10-01-2004, 08:47 AM
So you can't connect to the server (zbattle.net) or you can't connect to your opponent? You should disable your Norton firewall when attempting to play as it oftens inhibits the connection between you & your opponent.

I can't connect to my opponent. zbattle is ok.
I'll try it again with Norton off. Hopefully it works, without trojaning up my comp.

dramatics
10-01-2004, 10:26 AM
As for the SP2 Issue. The New firewall that they installed has a bug that denies any unknown service access to a port, sometimes even when "disabled" and doesn't even give you the option to allow it. If anyone knows the fix, Please feel free to PM me or Mail me with it.

thats probably why, it could be that pack

SaBrE
10-03-2004, 02:19 PM
well, looks like zbattle is down until the actual zbattle author does something to fix it. it seems, veeb's server IP address has changed, and he has no way to change what server IP that the zbattle server software needs to connect to. so basically, its gonna be down indefinitely until the author does something, which hasnt been done in almost a year unfortunately... back to znet for me i guess

dramatics
10-09-2004, 11:05 PM
zbattle is back, you have to do some tinkering with your config though..

-Go to zbattle.ini

-change the server ath.perez.cx or whatever to "www.newcon.org"

-start gaming as usual

see yall there

Ryumexicano
10-10-2004, 01:29 AM
I am sorry man. I am totally confused. Could you explain in more detail where that ini thing is. I don't seem to find no ini thing on zbattle program. I am desperate to play some games. Hook us up amigo. Thanks.


Ryu

kane_warhead
10-10-2004, 02:15 AM
Yeah. Now to have some zbattle thingy

dramatics
10-10-2004, 08:38 AM
ok umm

-go into the folder where you installed ZBattle (usually is in C:\Program Files\zbattle.net)

-open the file zbattle.net.ini(this is the file that looks like a text file); you can open it with notepad

it should look like this inside:
[options]
server=iperez.ath.cx
serverport=4398
playername=dramatics
startport=4000
endport=8000
programpath=C:\Program Files\zbattle.net\ZSNES136\Zsnesw.exe
rompath=C:\Program Files\zbattle.net\ZSNES136
connectonstartup=1

what you need to change is the "server" line, change it to "www.newcon.org"

now the config will look like this:

[options]
server=www.newcon.org
serverport=4398
playername=dramatics
startport=4000
endport=8000
programpath=C:\Program Files\zbattle.net\ZSNES136\Zsnesw.exe
rompath=C:\Program Files\zbattle.net\ZSNES136
connectonstartup=1

so basically you are only changing 1 line.. "iperez.ath.cx" to "www.newcon.org".

save the file, and connect to Zbattle. It should connect normally

KnownasWolf
10-14-2004, 09:10 PM
Is the zbattle.net site down? I am unable to get zbattle so I can play online :(

NeREMIXED
10-14-2004, 10:14 PM
im down for street fighter 2 turbo. just IM me.

oh and you'll need to explain how i would connect to someone to play. i tried and got no work.

edit:

sn is theericeboy.

sorry bout that

fatherbrain
10-14-2004, 11:38 PM
The zbattle site is down. but thew forums are up. www.newcon.org then click forums

Eckostyle
10-17-2004, 09:54 AM
Where can I download ZBattle now?

#GsT|Deserteur
10-17-2004, 11:00 AM
Go with the flow...

KnownasWolf
10-17-2004, 10:30 PM
#GsT|Deserteur thanks a lot :tup:

Veeb0rg
10-18-2004, 02:04 PM
Good News, While I haven't been able to contact Ian, I did get ahold of one of his other admins. They've changed the the ip info, the zbattle.net website should come back up soon, if it hasn't already for you.

dramatics
10-19-2004, 12:24 PM
good shit Veeb0rg

Veeb0rg
10-19-2004, 05:30 PM
good shit Veeb0rg


i even posted to the main zbattle.net webpage for once.. yay me