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Vintage
10-02-2003, 03:58 PM
Well....last time I mentioned Zbattle, it was with reference to former players on Xband. This thread is solely for the purpose of informing all of you about a unique and effective way to play online OG SF games. Now, by that, I am referring to the SF games on SNES. In addition to playing SF games, you can play ANY SNES or Super Famicon game ever created against someone, or cooperatively (For example, playing Secret of Mana with a college buddy of yours out of state).

I admit, when I first heard of online play through a SNES emulator, I too was a bit skeptical. But...Zbattle is a nice & refreshing alternative to Xbox Live and Kalliera. Unlike both of those two, Zbattle is not region specific. If both parties have a decent broadband connection (or even ISDN..YES I SAID ISDN!) you will have a lag-free match, regardless of wherever you live. This means, you can reside in CA, USA and play someone from "merry" ol' England without any lag. In addition to that, you can just about use ANY (and I do mean any) peripherial in conjunction with it. I am using a SNES pad for example.

How does it work?
-Zbattle is a server which allows individuals to create or join games or roms. Zbattle uses the emulator ZSNES (Super Nintendo Emulator) to actually play the game itself by synchronizing both parties connection.

So where do I start?
-Visit www.zsnes.com to download ZSNES. Be sure to download ZSNES 1.36, not 1.36 WIP (this beta version has desynching issues with netplay). From there, head over to www.zbattle.net and download the newest version of Zbattle (Beta 1.09). After downloading both of those, feel free to seek out the roms you desire. **Key for Roms-> (J)=Japanese (U)=US (E)=European (formatted for Pal, which runs slower than both the U & J versions)** Rule of thumb, download the (U) wherever possible.

So...how do I configure everything once I have downloaded both ZSNES and Zbattle?
-Upon installing Zbattle, it will ask where your ZSNES application is located within your directory. Place Zbattle within the correct location of your ZSNES application. **It is a good idea to create a separate folder for ZSNES (ex: C:\ZSNES)**
-All roms you download MUST be placed in your ZSNES folder. **Unzip all roms you download, where applicable. ZSNES alone can run zipped roms, HOWEVER, Zbattle cannot...thus, it is a good idea to get in the practice of unzipping all of your roms)**
-To properly set your rom directory...
Originally posted by Dark Gaiden



First disconnect from Zbattle (assuming that you already click connect), by that I mean actually click "disconnect", don't just close it. The next step is to make sure all of your roms are placed in your ZSNES folder. Then open up the Zsnes configuration file with Notepad-its the .cfg file. Scroll to the bottom of the document and make sure the "GameDirectory" is indeed your Zsnes directory-if not make the necessary changes. Once it has been changed, save the file and then make the .cfg file "read only."

You'll know if you set it properly, by opening Zsnes and attept to load a rom. If your roms are immediately listed, then you set it correctly. All this is also explained at www.zbattle.net
-From there, you just simply connect to Zbattle, where you will see that you can either join or create your own game. **Upon joining a game, if both parties do not have the same rom, the "joinee" will be given the option to download the rom from the host. Often, both parties will have the same rom, but the party that joins the game will not have his/her rom directory set properly. When this happens, if that individual chooses to download the rom from the host, the download will timeout before it finishes....all of which is WHY IT IS IMPERATIVE TO SET UP YOUR ROM DIRECTORY CORRECTLY->no sense in wasting your time or the other party's...**

What are some configurations I should know about?
-The first thing you want to configure after installing ZSNES is the screen size. To do this, simply open up ZSNES and click on "config" at the top, then click on "video." Pending upon your default resolution, your selection may be different from mine. I selected 640 x 480 DS Full (default resolution on PC is 1024 x 768). With this setting, I get full screen without hardly any pixelation.

What do I do if the Zbattle server is down?
-Here is the nice thing about the ZSNES emulator. ZSNES comes with netplay inherently. If you were to go through the features of ZSNES, you would come across that option. To use it's netplay...
Originally posted by Dark Gaiden
Even though Zbattle.net is down at the moment, you still can play NetPlay via your Zsnes. All you need is your IP address. If one of your friends (who also has Zsnes) has AIM, YM or ICQ, just send them your current IP address. Then all your opponent has to do is open their Zsnes and click "Netplay" and enter the IP address you just gave them. Since you gave them your IP address, you will be the one hosting the game/server, so on your Zsnes, just click Netplay and select "Start as Server." All your opponent has to do on their end is select "Connect to Server"-since in fact they are joining your game/server.

Once that is complete, both parties Zsnes will become synched. Then the opponent must select the rom/game in the Window Option screen. *On a side note, the rom name from both parties must both match in order for Zsnes to complete the netplay. In other words, don't change the original name of the rom you download.

You mentioned earlier that you were using a SNES pad on your ZSNES...How do you pull that off and what other peripherials can one use?
-Well...I personally had a good friend of mine wire up 2 SNES pads to my PC's parallel port. For a more detailed explanation of how that is done, check out this link: http://www.dreamcliff.com/personal/...jump/index.html
The great thing about this site too is, the owner also builds and sells adapters that allow you to use a SNES pad on your PC.
-As for using a PSX pad, there are numerous PSX to PC adapters out there. Be careful that you get one that has proper drivers for your OS. More specifically, if you are using XP (Home) as opposed to XP (Pro), you better be sure that you can find drivers for that particular adapter before you purchase it. If not, you'll get what happened to Jesse :D Ask Jesse any time for that story, I'm sure he'll be glad to tell ya :lol:
-If you desire to use a Saturn pad, get a magicbox.
-If you desire to use a Mas Stick, make sure it is PSX modified, unless of course it is already modified for a PC.

I have the pad/stick I want to use, so how do I change the buttons to what I want?
-Just open up your ZSNES application once again. Click on "config" and then select Input #1. From there, click on device (keyboard/stick). Then click on "set keys." It will then prompt you to go through all the different directions & diagonals, as well as the buttons (Remember, the button layout is that of an actual SNES pad, which is why you see letters such as "x," "r," and so forth). Once all of that is done, click off and then click on "misc" and click on "save cfg." This wil save the configuration settings that you have just set.

Misc. things you should know...
-If both parties have broadband, you should play with the latency set at 1 or 2 (3 is default). Changing the latency makes it significantly easier to execute moves. Latency 3 is usually reserved to those with a dial-up connection. If you select the latency to 1 and the game appears to be skipping a little, try adjusting the latency to 2 (ocassionally, one party's broadband will be better than anothers-usually occurs when playing someone overseas with a below average broadband connection). To change the latency, simply press "esc" once the game begins after both parties have been properly synched. You will be taken to a ZSNES screen that with a monitor display (where you can still type to communicate with one another). At the bottom, you will see "latency." Press "+" to increae the latency and "-" to decrease it.
-When playing aganst or with someone, press the letter "T" to type.
-When hosting games on Zbattle, refrain from using profanity. You can be banned for doing so.
-When hosting games on Zbattle, refrain from posting any rom sites. This too can get you banned.
-If you have a router or firewall (firewall usually includes most anti-virus software) be sure to check out the faqs at www.zbattle.net They explain how to get around it.

Well, if there are any specific questions you have or any problems you encounter during this relatively "arduos-free" process, check out the forums on www.zsnes.com or read the faqs on www.zbattle.net I hope many of you will take the opportunity to check it out. There is only so much I can tell you, without you yourself personally experiencing it. I am not implying that Zbattle & ZSNES are perfect, BUT, as far as online play is cocerned, it is by far the best option currently out there. Right now, Zbattle is probably the best kept secret for online play, hopefully, with the aid of some curious SRK members, that will change. Oh yea, all of this is free and none of the sites you go to download either ZSNES or Zbattle requires you to register. I hope to see many of you on there and give Jesse, Nok (aka, the "UK Guy") my bro (Dark Gaiden), and myself, some decent competition on SF :cool:

m121akuma
10-02-2003, 05:09 PM
Interresting. Ok, I'll bite. I got the software. Hit me up on some SF2 Turbo

Viet Cong
10-02-2003, 05:31 PM
Thats good your larging-up online play. The prospect of over-seas battles, with low lag is amazing (SF2 CE against Japanese players). There is only one major draw back compared to Kaillera, these are Snes versions of the games. The idea sounds good though.

JumpsuitJesse
10-02-2003, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Viet Cong
Thats good your larging-up online play. The prospect of over-seas battles, with low lag is amazing (SF2 CE against Japanese players). There is only one major draw back compared to Kaillera, these are Snes versions of the games. The idea sounds good though.

he's not kidding man. I have played against guys from UK and Spain in some heated Ken Vs Ryu matches and its as if the guy was playing in the same room!

I will emphasise that it is ESSENTIAL to get a good controller that you can play on. Get a good PC usb pad or get a modified controller of your liking.

If anyone needs help setting up, just holler at us either me or Gaiden :)

I sure wish Apoc or Seth would join up on this thing...even if its just to play for shits and giggles!

Viet Cong
10-02-2003, 06:28 PM
You know what, like what I wanted people to do for Kaillera, I will try this. Mainly because the emphasis on low lag across nations. The hardest part will be getting use to the SNES downgrade of the arcade hardware. I want SF2 CE.

I wonder if oone of the UK guys is CEM, cause he is one of the most dangerous SF2 players I seen on kaillera and he had a 120ms ping.

JumpsuitJesse
10-02-2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Viet Cong
You know what, like what I wanted people to do for Kaillera, I will try this. Mainly because the emphasis on low lag across nations. The hardest part will be getting use to the SNES downgrade of the arcade hardware. I want SF2 CE.

I wonder if oone of the UK guys is CEM, cause he is one of the most dangerous SF2 players I seen on kaillera and he had a 120ms ping.

I played those guys from the uk and i had a 69 ms ping. and if you wanna play sf2 ce, you can play the SNES SF2 Turbo version. It has it in there. Sure, its not as sharp as the arcade, but it sure does play damn close to it.

Its also great if you like to play MK or KI!

If Kailera had THIS kind of interface, and lag free play I would be glad to play it. But til then, this will do just fine.

DVS1
10-02-2003, 07:02 PM
What advantages does playing a zsnes emulator compared to mame since in mame you can play the actual arcade version online?

JumpsuitJesse
10-02-2003, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by DVS1
What advantages does playing a zsnes emulator compared to mame since in mame you can play the actual arcade version online?

Advantages?? Well for one, if you have a broadband connection you can play virtually lag free for the most part provided that both players have a decent connection.

Zsnes coupled with Zbattle actually give players a place to meet, and post up games that they like to play. Not just Street Fighter, but any SNES multiplayer game. Better at MK, or Ki?? Host a game, and see who comes out to play you.

You can set the damage levels, and turn off time limits.

You can type trash talk between rounds with ease.

Mame is an ARCADE emu....and Zsnes is a SNES emu...so its not really that fair to compare the two. But comparing Zbattle to Kailera....well, lets just say I am hooked on what I considered to be too good to be true. :)

Viet Cong
10-02-2003, 08:36 PM
Do you get to see your pings like Kaillera, I don't see them.

JumpsuitJesse
10-02-2003, 08:39 PM
just ping your opponents Ip. If you cant find it, just ask them for it. I think Gaiden knows how to get it without askin.

JumpsuitJesse
10-02-2003, 09:37 PM
I just played VIET CONG....and all I have to say is...

"Look Mikey! I think he likes it!" :p

Viet Cong
10-02-2003, 09:59 PM
Matched up with JumpsuitJesse in SF2 Hyper. I heard about Zbattle long ago when people wanted to play mario kart and ting. I heard about its low latency and never paid mind. The match up I Just had was amazing.

Me in peel region, Onatrio, Canada and JumpsuitJesse in Houston, Texas, USA. I say, realistically, I didn't notice any lag. You be doing the moves like your playing off line. That client is some hyped-up coding.

This is officially something people should try out. If my first trial was me and someone from New York state, that wouldn't surprise me, its close. But that test proves the power of this client. Can never replace my gaming on actual arcade roms, but the consistant future for online SF'ing, seems to be with Zbattle.net.

If Kaillera client updated wiith this technology that would be wicked.

FatalFuryD
10-02-2003, 10:00 PM
I'm assuming you'd be using broadband connection.. but do you know if this thing works with 56k?

Viet Cong
10-02-2003, 10:40 PM
Remember, broadband just means more information faster. All net apps will work with 56K, but it will not work at optimum performance.

56K = 1985 pink Dodge Omni
Broadband = black Camero Z28 SS package, with 2 Vivid production girls in the back seat.

Whats a link- Rogers Cable (http://www.shoprogers.com/store/cable/InternetContent/internet.asp) -whats a link

Supernaut
10-02-2003, 11:33 PM
I'm assuming you'd be using broadband connection.. but do you know if this thing works with 56k?

Well, I'm the proud owner of a pink Omni and I can honestly say it really depends on who you're playing against. For instance, when I play against others in the contiguous-50 the games are pretty smooth for the most part . Obviously the quality of play goes down when I go toe-to-toe with players in Europe or other non-BB havin' fools, but for the most part it runs like a champ (relatively).

If Kaillera client updated wiith this technology that would be wicked.

The main difference between Kaillera and ZSNES netplay is the fact that ZSNES establishes a direct UDP connection between the players instead of relying on a server as a middle-man like Kaillera does. Zbattle really doesn't play any part in sending data from player to player. It's basically just a suped up chat room that performs a checksum to make sure that players have matching roms, and then facilitates the connection between the two parties.

I should also mention that it's possible to set up ZSNES to use a TCP/IP connec tion in case UDP doesn't work with your LAN.

Viet Cong
10-02-2003, 11:43 PM
Oh, I wondered what the main server everyone was connecting to, that would allow people from other countries to still have low latency. So it's basically peer-to-peer. Wicked explaination, It sounds like a relatively simple enough plan, for the author of Kaillera to implement.

It might have to do with M.A.M.E. not actually having default peer-to-peer net capabilities.

brian
10-02-2003, 11:43 PM
I just tried this too. And I have to say, I'm shocked at how much better it is than kaillera. I thought the lag was unavoidable because of distance, but apparently that's not the case! Kaillera just inherently sucks :P.
Of course the fact that its snes doesnt help, but its still great fun. And more importantly, it proves that online street fighter is a possibilty! So in the future who knows what we'll get :).

JumpsuitJesse
10-02-2003, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by brian
I just tried this too. And I have to say, I'm shocked at how much better it is than kaillera. I thought the lag was unavoidable because of distance, but apparently that's not the case! Kaillera just inherently sucks :P.
Of course the fact that its snes doesnt help, but its still great fun. And more importantly, it proves that online street fighter is a possibilty! So in the future who knows what we'll get :).

Great games, Brian! Your Guile is crazy! But my Ken is crazier! Meaty low fwd, link into low short, dragon punch!! TOO GOOD! :D

If anyone knows any of the programers over at mame, tell them to get with this method of online peer to peer play!

Now hopefully more players will come out and join up.

Apoc, I'd really like to play your HF Rog...just to see what its like. I never played him, and I prolly wont get that chance later...so the least we can try to do is duke it out over the net :)

dogface
10-03-2003, 12:46 AM
But you guys don't realize what this really means!!


SNES ALPHA 2 ONLINE!



ALPHA 2!!!!!!

-df

Apoc
10-03-2003, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse


Great games, Brian! Your Guile is crazy! But my Ken is crazier! Meaty low fwd, link into low short, dragon punch!! TOO GOOD! :D

If anyone knows any of the programers over at mame, tell them to get with this method of online peer to peer play!

Now hopefully more players will come out and join up.

Apoc, I'd really like to play your HF Rog...just to see what its like. I never played him, and I prolly wont get that chance later...so the least we can try to do is duke it out over the net :)

Aww man. We will:) A lot of us played at Evo this year on great controls! There were even some ol skool world's finest players like Vahe and Norm Ho! It looks like we may get to try some HF Rog vs. Fei action on HSF2TAE! Whoa. I wonder what HF Fei is gonna be like?

Apoc.

krost
10-03-2003, 03:09 AM
KI anyone?

Jinrai
10-03-2003, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by Apoc
Whoa. I wonder what HF Fei is gonna be like?Sorry to barge in. But from the way it looks in the trailer, the cursor skips over the "new challengers" when you select WW/CE/HF.

Apoc
10-03-2003, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by JinraiPVC
Sorry to barge in. But from the way it looks in the trailer, the cursor skips over the "new challengers" when you select WW/CE/HF.

Nope, I've read around. Deejay has been played in WW mode. The characters have been adjusted to play the way they would have had they been in the prior versions. I read that anyway. Heheh.

Apoc.

brian
10-03-2003, 09:14 AM
Another sweet thing about Zbattle is that the level of comp is great :). Got to play JSJ, as well as other great players. (ggs!).
Apoc get your lazy ass online :p. It took me all of 10 minutes to set up.

jreinert13
10-03-2003, 09:32 AM
I never got a chance to play sf2 in the arcades, so zbattle is a blessing..
I hope to see you guys online my name will be 'Pradictabo'...and I'm looking forward to getting severely beat down so I can learn these old games

brian
10-03-2003, 09:41 AM
btw, question: what are the gameplay differences between snes hf and ssf2, and the arcade versions? I only ever played ST seriously, so I cant tell by playing.
And why is hf considered better than ssf2, other than the sound and speed? (neither of which are relevant for the snes versions)

JumpsuitJesse
10-03-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by dogface
But you guys don't realize what this really means!!


SNES ALPHA 2 ONLINE!



ALPHA 2!!!!!!

-df

Ummm...Alpha 2 on SNES is playable online....but it plays like ur walking in jello. Very sluggish....horrible gameplay. Its not because of lag...but because the game itself is not very good on snes.

Viet Cong
10-03-2003, 11:32 AM
SSF was a victim of the wait for SF3. After Hyper (which was still the famous SF2 engine), SSF had weak sound, back to WW speed, and the mechanics changed slightly (Bison and Guile not the same)

These are things that can be over looked now, but at the time people didn't want more upgrades. After SSF though, people realized that capcom wasn't going to release SF3. The fact that ST had a speed increase and new super meter, brought people back.

Atmos
10-03-2003, 01:00 PM
Hi all I'm from Zbattle, Vintage you didnt mention me you biatch!! I'll have to make you remember me :bluu:

I played you Jumpsuit, it ended up 21 to 21. Your fei is great :eek: Sorry I didnt chat more, I was busy doing other shit, next time I'll talk trash all you want :)

Oh yeah you guys play KI, we need competition, look for me and someone called Bentleet.

It's great to see you people jump in, it's gonna be real fun, looking forward to it.

m121akuma
10-03-2003, 06:24 PM
Ok, y'all. I'm ready for some comp. Screenname is m121. Hit me up for some HF.

JumpsuitJesse
10-04-2003, 06:07 AM
I'll be on and off all day. Look for the screenname, "Toadstyle" :)

brian
10-04-2003, 10:45 AM
heres a problem: the boxer doesnt actually seem playable online, cause I cant maintain my TAP charge while doing other things. It seems its too many simultaneous inputs. Is there a work around?

Viet Cong
10-04-2003, 11:07 AM
Well it's all about balance and Kaillera and zbattle.net are balanced in opposite ways. Zbattle is worth the try atleast once, to see the ability for low latency play across a continent.

Big problem for me, is the fact that it's Snes versions of the arcade games. I tried, but I can't go back to the console version of a rom, when the arcade version is there. Snes has way less frames of animation and poorer sound quality and memory. The game engine is such that you can get away with alot of things that you can't in the arcade version, mainly because of less frames of animation and console options menu.

For example, SSF is supposed to be SF2 CE speed, yet it can play close to SSF2 turbo speed. It's like getting use to a corvette, then trying to give a Ford Focus a second chance, not happening. I'm glad I tried though, now I know online latency can be much improved.

m121akuma
10-04-2003, 12:17 PM
I'll take low latency over arcade perfect lag anyday...if this gets a big enough community, I may be hooked.

Nippon Ichi
10-04-2003, 12:38 PM
I am getting broadband on wednesday so expect me then

pulpasis
10-04-2003, 12:51 PM
Hey brian, I played against you yesterday.

I messed around with hf rog earlier today and was able to charge back/walk forward and press the kick buttons while maintaing my tap. The mas might suffer from ghosting. Is it plugged directly into the keyboard port? Have you tried doing the same thing on the arcade version of the rom? A possible way around it might be to use a console to pc adapter.

If your already using one of those already then ive got no idea.

m121akuma
10-04-2003, 12:59 PM
Um, is the server down now or something? I can't connect to zbattle right now.

m121akuma
10-04-2003, 01:38 PM
Heh, nevermind, it was just my computer being teh suck:sweat:

Anyway, good SF2T matches pulpasis. You raped me good, but expect me to come back for more later. This goes for anyone else in here as well.

Vintage
10-04-2003, 01:47 PM
Atmos, I thought you were ghost? I didn't think you still really played on Z anymore...we'll have to look for you then.

Viet, as far as it just being the SNES roms vs. that of the arcade ones...that's perfectly fine with me (and I'm sure it is with others as well). The thing with Zbattle is...try not to look at it as the foreground for the next big SF tourney. Zbatte rather is just a place that allows us to host SF games through ZSNES relatively lag-free. Ideally, those who would enjoy Z the most would be people who have played on Xband. When Xband arrived on the scene in '95, it wasn't viewed as the replacement for tournies, just another way to play more SF with people across the nation (with virtually no lag-SNES version, and no lag at all-Genesis version). From just a general videogame standpoint, what ZSNES & Zbattle do is ingenious. The capability of playing any SNES or Super Famicon online with anyone (vs/co-op) is amazing. Heck, Xband only had the choice of some 15 games total.

For me personally, I love the fact that the SNES version of SSF2 is not exactly the same as its arcade counterpart (with regard to the speed). I found the speed in the arcade version of SSF2 to be simply atrocious. Which is why I think the SNES version beats the arcade one hands down. As far as HF is concerned...I wouldn't really know. I never really gave HF the time of day back then, nor now.

But Viet, I'm glad that you at least gave it a try. The only thing Zbattle truly needs is a bigger community. Which is why we should spread the word about it.

brian
10-04-2003, 02:04 PM
Yeah my mas plugs into the keyboard. I think the same thing happens on mame, but on mame i can set all 3 kicks to one key, so I can still do TAPS. Oh well. Sucks to be me :).

JumpsuitJesse
10-04-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by brian
Yeah my mas plugs into the keyboard. I think the same thing happens on mame, but on mame i can set all 3 kicks to one key, so I can still do TAPS. Oh well. Sucks to be me :).

You lazy bastard! :p

Well, you can use 2 punches to charge 3 button moves.

brian
10-04-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse


You lazy bastard! :p



I didnt have a choice it wouldnt register the TAPs otherwise :(.
But hmm, I didnt know you could do it with two buttons. I'll try that.

m121akuma
10-04-2003, 05:29 PM
Good matches, Altos...damn, I need to practice.

Vintage
10-05-2003, 10:45 AM
Well...it looks like more & more people are at least giving Zbattle a try. I've noticed the increase of people hosting games for Turbo & SSF2. Now if we only could get some more guys from both the SNES & Genesis Xbands...

krost
10-05-2003, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Atmos
Hi all I'm from Zbattle, Vintage you didnt mention me you biatch!! I'll have to make you remember me :bluu:

I played you Jumpsuit, it ended up 21 to 21. Your fei is great :eek: Sorry I didnt chat more, I was busy doing other shit, next time I'll talk trash all you want :)

Oh yeah you guys play KI, we need competition, look for me and someone called Bentleet.

It's great to see you people jump in, it's gonna be real fun, looking forward to it.


DAMMIT. You're why I stopped playing zbattle ki for awhile. You're too fucking good man.

JumpsuitJesse
10-05-2003, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by m121akuma
Good matches, Altos...damn, I need to practice.

Man, everytime I wanna play you, you are in a game already!! Ur next on my hitlist!!! :p

m121akuma
10-05-2003, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse


Man, everytime I wanna play you, you are in a game already!! Ur next on my hitlist!!! :p

Bring it, buddy! Next time I'm on (hopefully tonight), I'll save room for ya.

psychoballz
10-05-2003, 05:00 PM
Hi guys just got into this zbattle and it's great, I'm having one problem though, when I play online with someone I get no sound. I have sound when I play the emulator offline but when I play people online I get no sound, can anyone please help.

Hitman
10-05-2003, 05:22 PM
OMG, this thing is just so damn amazing.

I bought an Xbox for XBL CVS2 Live. And this Zbattle thing honestly does provide a better connection than XBL!

The network code is . . . absolutely breath taking, if they add this kind of code to Kaillera, we are talking about a NEW era in online fighting games.

pulpasis
10-05-2003, 05:40 PM
Hey hitman ggs eairler.

psychoballz, when you start a game hit escape once. From there go to config then down to sound. Make sure that "cubic spline" is checked.

JumpsuitJesse
10-05-2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by psychoballz
Hi guys just got into this zbattle and it's great, I'm having one problem though, when I play online with someone I get no sound. I have sound when I play the emulator offline but when I play people online I get no sound, can anyone please help.

Well.....you may wanna sign onto the zbattle and zsnes forums and ask about it. seems like your soundcard isnt liking your connection through zbattle or something. Anyone else have any ideas or suggestions??

brian
10-05-2003, 06:10 PM
does anyone know what's involved in making a program like zbattle? How hard would it be to make kaillera peer to peer like this?

psychoballz
10-05-2003, 08:14 PM
Thanks guys

firewings
10-05-2003, 09:32 PM
Does Zsnes have Super street fighter 2 turbo? or just sf2t?

Which one most people play now?

Ubersaurus
10-05-2003, 09:43 PM
There is no SNES version of ST.

AlkalineX
10-05-2003, 11:36 PM
cool this doesn't lag at all.
Had fun
Played mk2 and ssf2
Just finished playing against a dude named wings
We had some GG's
:cool:

AlkalineX
10-05-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by brian
does anyone know what's involved in making a program like zbattle? How hard would it be to make kaillera peer to peer like this?
if you have never programmed before then it would be like climbing mt. everest in your pajamas with your hands and legs tied behind your back and a time bomb attached to you that will blow in 5 mins, and you are still at the bottom of the mountain and apaches shooting misseles at you and m12 tanks firing cannons at you and you need to go take crap really bad.:evil:

Random idiot
10-06-2003, 09:29 AM
Heh. Now that I'm getting competition, I'm realizing what a scrub I really am :^). Hopefully, once I get more experience/a stick or a pad, I'll be able to do at least somewhat decently. Oh well, still nice to play someone other than the computer.

If anyone wants a game, just IM me through AIM at DekarTKBsRevenge. I'll be happy to boost your ego :^). I go by either DekarTKB, or R.Idiot on Zbattle.

shoryukenH2
10-06-2003, 11:23 AM
Zbattle sounds great, but I can't connect. It probably has something to do with my campus firewalls/whatever... the same junk that prevents me from uploading to ftp or sending files through mirc or instant messenger. Sucks. :(

Back to kaillera, I guess...

SaBrE
10-06-2003, 12:55 PM
i need some help. anyone have a linksys cable/dsl router? i cant play anygames on my router. i was given the port for zbattle to do port forwarding. but it still isnt working. someone got indepth instructions to do this? thanx in advance

Vintage
10-06-2003, 05:15 PM
For any of you guys who are on Xbox Live, feel free to pass the word along about Zbattle & ZSNES to any & all people you are on "speaking terms" with....Sabre, check out the zsnes forums. You should find your answer over there.

AkumaTX
10-06-2003, 08:02 PM
Well guys decided to give Street Fighter a chance and quit Mario Kart for a while. I played ninja gaiden og SF and went 0-8 then i went against his friend toad something i think and went 0-8or 10 again. In other words i suck but im not giving up. Does anyone know where i could get the info to convert my own snes controller and rewire it so i can use it on pc.

Oh and on a side not kens low jap uppercut is gay when you get caught in it.

AlkalineX
10-06-2003, 08:14 PM
znes is great but damn... I am really starting to hate ssf2..this game is kinda lame with al the b.s. abuses and crap. I need the depth and fighting style of 3rd strike :/...

brian
10-06-2003, 09:02 PM
sf2 games are way deeper than 3rd strike imo. I could write an essay on this but anyway, alkaline why dont you post what traps you're having trouble with and I/we can give you some suggestions :).

JumpsuitJesse
10-06-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by AlkalineX
znes is great but damn... I am really starting to hate ssf2..this game is kinda lame with al the b.s. abuses and crap. I need the depth and fighting style of 3rd strike :/...

Abuses?? Like what?? I have played COUNTLESS matches where both of us are going all out....not tricks or punches pulled. Tick throws, corner traps....EVERYTHING that people call BS is reversable or escapable....I am living proof. Just ask some of the players on here who have tried these so called BS TACTICS on me...I make them think twice before they come near me :)

And if you think SSF is lame, dont even go near Super Turbo in the arcades....

You cant compare 3s to old sf games like Hyper Fighting and SSF. Sure all you may see is patterns and hard to counter tactics, but believe me....there are so many mind games in old SF that it has the its own levels and depth and fighting style.

Dark Gaiden
10-06-2003, 09:42 PM
Good Games to Alkaline, Hancoe, Hittman, and Akuma. It's definitely nice to see some new blood on Z :cool:
Oh yea Akuma, its "Dark Gaiden" btw :D

Here's the link for snes pads on PC:

http://www.dreamcliff.com/personal/daniel/jump/controller.htm

You can either follow the directions for the wiring or just simply order the adapter from the site owner.

DVS1
10-06-2003, 10:07 PM
excuse me, I have a problem playing zbattle. For some strange reason when I join a game and the checksum finishes loading nothing happends. Also when I host a game and a player joins, nothing happends even if the person has the same game and file name as me. I follwed everything that was explained here. Yes my files are unzipped and yes the roms are in a Zsnes directory in the c: drive. Any suggestions on what I can be doing wrong? Thank you

Dark Gaiden
10-06-2003, 10:15 PM
DVS,

Could you please elaborate as to what your problem is...

Do you mean that when you host a game and someone joins your game, "start game" is not highlighted? If so, that means either both parties do not have the same rom or the person who joined your game did not set their directory properly.

What SN do you go under on Z?

JumpsuitJesse
10-06-2003, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by DVS1
excuse me, I have a problem playing zbattle. For some strange reason when I join a game and the checksum finishes loading nothing happends. Also when I host a game and a player joins, nothing happends even if the person has the same game and file name as me. I follwed everything that was explained here times. Yes my files are unzipped and yes the roms are in a Zsnes directory in the c: drive. Any suggestions on what I can be doing wrong? Thank you

When u unzipped ur roms, did you remove the .smc files from their folders?

soma
10-07-2003, 01:11 AM
Hehe got my ass handed to me like 13 straight games by Gaiden with random characters. T_T Hopefully when I get my firewall/controller issues worked out I can actually put up a challenge; was definitely outmatched, though.

TS
10-07-2003, 03:40 AM
Yeah, so I'm thinking, since there are already emulators for consoles, somebody needs to finally hack that god damn Dreamcast modem so we can get some online SF2 in the US, finally.

Hitman
10-07-2003, 07:14 AM
WE SHOULD ALL WRITE E-MAILS TO ZBATTLE and make them port this to MAME! That woiuld be the ultimate online fighting experience!

Gaiden raped me 20-0, I didn't think it was possible! I considered myself a very good old school player! I was using the keyboard against him but still most of the things I wanted to do came out!

There were some match-ups I most definitely should have won but his clutch execution was just so amazing every time there was a close call.

Some really embarrassing moments like Dhalsim vs Zangief (and I was Dhalsim), got him down to last a few ticks of health with me near full health and he just jumped in on me and I was paralyzed in fear as he caught me with a SPD combo to win it.

For some reason when he uses charge characters like Chun Li / Guile he can match my Ryu/Sagat's in projectile fights, which I didn't think was possible. If I use those characters for every 2 sonic booms I throw he can throw 3.

Some really nasty stuff he pulled on me:

Dhalsim: Short slide into throw, I tried to throw him back 100 times and I got thrown every time. Does this work like Balrog's low strong into headbutt? Both of those set-ups give him frame advantage I think. There is also all those drills that seem to be unstoppable. He raped me every time with Dhalsim. Hell I was Bison he rushed me down with Dhalsim in 20 seconds!

Chun Li: Projectile whore and if I jump low roundhouse every time or she can simply jump herself and her air-to-air priority is untouchable. Short spinning bird kick seems unpunishable.

Ken: Just a very solid shoto there, I didn't know low forward combos into short. Very very patient and bait jump-in's very well, I lost so many close-calls against him.

In general who is considered to be the best character in SSF2? I used 8 different characters against him and got no where.

Also Cammy's blocked canon drill doesn't seem to combo into canon spike anymore. Is that by design?

I played somebody the other day who did a 5 hit combo with Fei Long without jumping in (how?). In general what strength do you use his rushing punch with? Ryu vs Fei Long felt like an impossible match-up for me.

martinUSARMY
10-07-2003, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by SaBrE
i need some help. anyone have a linksys cable/dsl router? i cant play anygames on my router. i was given the port for zbattle to do port forwarding. but it still isnt working. someone got indepth instructions to do this? thanx in advance

I would also like more info on this please. I have a router also and it won't let me play anyone. I was playing ToadStyle yesterday without my router (modem to PC) and it worked great but then I got logged out after a few matches, so I know I know I need my router, but don't really know how to configure. I read the FAQ's on zbattle, but can't make sense of it. PLease any help would be greatly apprectiated.

I go under SAVION on Z

SaBrE
10-07-2003, 09:53 AM
yeah i need help with this. this is driving me nuts. ive opened port 7845 udp and i still cant get a game going. is there something i need to do that im missing? settings on my pc, other settings in my router. im running a linksys router. anyhelp would be nice

Ubersaurus
10-07-2003, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by AlkalineX
znes is great but damn... I am really starting to hate ssf2..this game is kinda lame with al the b.s. abuses and crap. I need the depth and fighting style of 3rd strike :/...

Go with Street Fighter 2 Turbo. It's got "champion edition" and hyper fighting on it. Super SF2 is the crappiest game in the whole SF2 series.

lftrpllr
10-07-2003, 10:30 AM
I have ssf2 up and running on the emulator but it runs choppy as hell. I'm running it on XP with (I think) 256 ram. Can anyone recommend any settings I can play with so I can get zsnes to run a bit smoother (as yes it runs like shit even in the smallest window setting as well).

Any help is appreciated, thanks-

-wes

Vintage
10-07-2003, 11:18 AM
QUOTE]Originally posted by Ubersaurus


Go with Street Fighter 2 Turbo. It's got "champion edition" and hyper fighting on it. Super SF2 is the crappiest game in the whole SF2 series. [/QUOTE]

Hmmm....well, maybe the arcade version, but definitely not the SNES version. Truthfully, if the arcade version of SSF2 had Turbo Speed, I think people would be playing that game to this day. I mean, consider playing ST, without all the gimmicks (Supers, techs, juggles)...

JumpsuitJesse
10-07-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by SaBrE
yeah i need help with this. this is driving me nuts. ive opened port 7845 udp and i still cant get a game going. is there something i need to do that im missing? settings on my pc, other settings in my router. im running a linksys router. anyhelp would be nice

When u log onto zbattle, and link up with someone, does it say START GAME?? Is that button high lighted??

If it is and you press start game and then Zsnes starts but doesnt do anything, then you might have a problem with your directory.

1. Are your roms in the same folder as the rest of your zsnes files?? If so, move your files to another folder ....like on your desktop.

2. Once you moved all your roms to that new folder, be sure that all the roms are .smc files. The roms themselves shouldnt be in their own zip folders. All you should have in your main roms folder are the bare .smc files...nothing else.

Once you have all your roms moved, uninstall both zbattle, and zsnes and reinstall. Be sure to point zsnes to the new directory when you first start it up.

I spent 40 mins last night helping some guy named Salvion get online when he was about to give up....i got him online and he loved it!

JumpsuitJesse
10-07-2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by lftrpllr
I have ssf2 up and running on the emulator but it runs choppy as hell. I'm running it on XP with (I think) 256 ram. Can anyone recommend any settings I can play with so I can get zsnes to run a bit smoother (as yes it runs like shit even in the smallest window setting as well).

Any help is appreciated, thanks-

-wes

Some questions....

1. Are you using any kind of psx controller adapter...or ANY kind of controller to USB adapter??

2. What kind of connection are you on?

3. Do you have any other applications running in the background??

4. what is your average throughput?? Go to http://www.2wire.com/meter/bm.html and find out how much your bandwidth is. Mine is an average of 1050 to 1300 Kbps

If all those factors check out, then I dunno what it might be.

SaBrE
10-07-2003, 12:54 PM
jsj: i have the roms in the zsnes dir. i modified the cfg file to look in the zsnes dir for the roms. i host a game, and the start game button becomes active when a player comes in with a rom match(im guessing the rom matches or else i cant click start game),i click on it and NOTHING happens. my cursor will turn into the hourglass for like 1/4 of a second then nothing at all. nothing happens. i have the ports open on my router(im assuming everything is done right) and i keep getting the same results. been trying for 2 days now. i need to get help from someone that also has a linksys router and got this thing to work

pulpasis
10-07-2003, 01:12 PM
SaBrE, I found this on yahoo it might be of some help

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=linksys+port+forwarding&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-top

SaBrE
10-07-2003, 01:22 PM
no ive been to all that crap. i want specifics from a user. none of that shit helped my problem yesterday :( thx anyway

SaBrE
10-07-2003, 04:25 PM
ok i know my port forwarding cant be screwed up, cuz i got port forwarding to work with my other programs like aim, ftp, irc and such. i just cant get zbattle to do anything at all. it just wont load anything when i hit start game and vice versa. so im now thinking its not my router. i even reinstalled zbattle and zsnes(no i dont have the wip version of 1.36) this is so annoying. im about to give up

Vintage
10-07-2003, 04:35 PM
Sabre,

I'm not sure if you mentioned this earlier, but...when you are hosting on Zbattle, you do have your ZSNES closed, right?

SaBrE
10-07-2003, 04:43 PM
yeah its closed. and on my router,i disabled dhcp and setup a static ip on my pc. i enabled port 7845 udp and port 4000 tcp for the download stuff. i never tested to see if atleast people could dl from me but i know i can dl from someone. i just dont know what else i could possibly do

Vintage
10-07-2003, 04:50 PM
Sabre,

Have you checked out the zsnes forums? My guess, they are probably your best bet to getting this issue resolved.

SaBrE
10-07-2003, 05:11 PM
eh no useful info there. i am totally lost

JumpsuitJesse
10-07-2003, 06:41 PM
So when you click START GAME, Zsnes isnt even opening up???

Wow...

What are u using for a controller....that sounds similar to the problem i was having before i found out it was the PSX USB adapter drivers I was using.

SaBrE
10-07-2003, 06:46 PM
im using a sidewinder pro usb. the pad has always worked fine for zsnes. im also under winXP. but like i said, nothing at all happens when i start game or when the host hits start game. my cursor turns into the hourglass for 1/4 of a second like it was gonna load. then nothing happens. might as well be like we never hit a button at all t ostart with. its really frustrating

SaBrE
10-07-2003, 06:55 PM
all i know is that there has to be someone that uses this thing that had a similar problem. or is using this crap with a linksys router. there has to be

JumpsuitJesse
10-07-2003, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by lftrpllr
Alright, I have the emu running like butta now and I can connect to zbattle but now I can't get a game going, what now? I was given the option to dl the rom when I joined a game but then nothing happened.

I have the path to zsnes executable set to:

C:\Documents and Settings\Wesley Truelson\Desktop\zsnes\zsneswv1.36\ZSNESW.EXE

the emu and the roms are in the same folder, now wtf do I do? I know how to choose a rom and invite people as well but I can't get the game going, any help anyone? What do I need to configure in zbattle or the zsnes to get this shit going?

*ALSO*, do you have to have zsnes open before you connect to zbattle or does it open the emu once you accept a game? What's the best order to open/run everything.
-wes

When are you going to be on?? I'll baby step you through this if i have to!!!! To much crap to type over a message board!

Let me know more or less when you are on, so I can message you via Yahoo, or MSN messengers

SaBrE
10-07-2003, 08:24 PM
he probably having the same problem as i am.

JumpsuitJesse
10-07-2003, 08:26 PM
Just got lftrpllr up and running....

got another player hooked...he loved it :)

firewings
10-07-2003, 08:44 PM
I am wings:P Good game btw ^_^
Its 10x better than xbox live.



Originally posted by AlkalineX
cool this doesn't lag at all.
Had fun
Played mk2 and ssf2
Just finished playing against a dude named wings
We had some GG's
:cool:

brian
10-07-2003, 09:24 PM
sabre tell me your aim if you have one. Maybe my room mate can help you.. he's a bit of a computer whiz.

Ubersaurus
10-07-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Vintage
QUOTE]Originally posted by Ubersaurus


Go with Street Fighter 2 Turbo. It's got "champion edition" and hyper fighting on it. Super SF2 is the crappiest game in the whole SF2 series.

Hmmm....well, maybe the arcade version, but definitely not the SNES version. Truthfully, if the arcade version of SSF2 had Turbo Speed, I think people would be playing that game to this day. I mean, consider playing ST, without all the gimmicks (Supers, techs, juggles)... [/QUOTE]

Somehow, I don't think speed was the major problem with the game. I'm sure an old school player could describe it better then me, but essentially it isn't a closely "balanced" as SF2T. By which I mean, Sagat busts alot of heads in Super. Probably worse then Ryu or Guile could in HF.

Vintage
10-07-2003, 10:20 PM
Well, Sagat is more of a beast in ST. So much so, he has even been banned in some tournies. Most people's gripe with SSF2 (arcade version) was that it was too slow. The game was too slow for most people to even form a list of tiers in that game. So...obviously, speed was a huge factor for that game.

demenion
10-07-2003, 11:20 PM
i played a few games.. hard on a keyboard =[

JumpsuitJesse
10-07-2003, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Ubersaurus


Hmmm....well, maybe the arcade version, but definitely not the SNES version. Truthfully, if the arcade version of SSF2 had Turbo Speed, I think people would be playing that game to this day. I mean, consider playing ST, without all the gimmicks (Supers, techs, juggles)...

Somehow, I don't think speed was the major problem with the game. I'm sure an old school player could describe it better then me, but essentially it isn't a closely "balanced" as SF2T. By which I mean, Sagat busts alot of heads in Super. Probably worse then Ryu or Guile could in HF. [/B][/QUOTE]

The Sagat in SSF is NOTHING....I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING compared to OG Sagat in ST.

And calling Supers, Techs, and Juggles "gimmicks" is a whole other argument that i won't even go into.

SSF is much more enjoyable with faster speeds. Had SSF come out with various speeds I think it would have been better received....to bad it wasnt.

lftrpllr
10-08-2003, 09:43 AM
Much thanks again goes out to JSJ for getting me going on zbattle. Most of the stuff you need to know to set it up is in the faq on zbattle.net but sometimes you just need someone to explain certain things to you in more detail.
SSF2 in the arcade is hella slow, and yes it's the main reason it did so poorly. However, SSF2 snes has a selectable speed setting, this makes it (IMO) the superior verision of SF on snes. If you guys are ever on, look me up for a game (I mainly play ssf2 (u)s version). I use the same screen name there. Trust me if you
haven't tried it and you're a fan of oldschool SF,

zbattle>>>x box live

in terms of lag. You owe it to yourself to at least try it out.

-wes

Vintage
10-08-2003, 10:37 AM
It's true Jesse, SSF2 probably would have been received better had it been faster. As for the "other" features found in the newer SF games... to me, they are gimmicks. Granted, not everyone feels the same way (Heck, most probably dont). Which is understandable. My own personal history with SF has led me to that assertion. A lot of those features have made me (for the most part) turn a blind eye to New Skool SF. But hey, that's just me. Everyone has their own particular history with SF, thus bringing about vastly different conclusions of features found in SF games.

All that aside, seeing the SF community within Z grow is definitely a welcome sight. All the individuals having problems with routers & firewalls, is another story altogether :) Needless to say, I know when I get a router, I will TURN IT OFF when it comes time to play. I'm sure one might say, well, the layout of PCs within my house/residence wont allow me to that. To that I say, "point well taken." :D

Vintage
10-08-2003, 10:57 AM
Oh yea, mad propz should go to Jesse, aka "The Troubleshooter." Man, talk about troubleshooting. It seems like Jesse is always on the clock. Damn, knowledge of 80s toons and now Z troubleshooting? Wow, what's next? :D

OneInchPunch
10-08-2003, 01:09 PM
how high is the competition on zbattle? r there any scrubs that play? i'm curious cuz i'm basically a fellow scrub that would like 2 get good and work my way up.

lftrpllr
10-08-2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by OneInchPunch
how high is the competition on zbattle? r there any scrubs that play? i'm curious cuz i'm basically a fellow scrub that would like 2 get good and work my way up.

All different skill levels. Often people will put a description (in the game to be played) of the skill level they're at, or seek to play.

-wes

Lucky-st.c
10-08-2003, 02:09 PM
I just tried playing ZBattle (SSF2) for the first time and I only have one thing to say.

OH MY GOD!

The netcode on this thing is unbelievably good. I played under the name SaintNick. The lag is quite negligible. Practically everything I intended to do was executed even while I was using a keyboard. While using the keyboard wasn't especially hard for me considering I was a hardcore pc fps gamer, I really can't wait to play this on a joystick or a decent controller. Once I get some kind of converting adapter it's on. Though I never really played those old school SF games, I have a friend that was awesome at them. All you old Xbanders may know him. He went by the name WINNER or Mr. Win Collector. I called him immediately after I played and he expressed interest. He even remembers some of you guys like Dark Gaiden and is considering getting broadband just to get back in the action.

For those that haven't tried this yet, I'm 100% certain you will be hooked after a few games. Seriously, I only played 7 or so games and now I'm a believer.

SilentNinja
10-08-2003, 02:18 PM
For a SNK gamer, I've been playing Fatal Fury special with this Zbattle too.:)

Ubersaurus
10-08-2003, 02:27 PM
FFS never came out on the SNES as far as I'm aware. fatal Fury 2 did, but thats a different game.

Unless you mean the japanese release :p

Dark Gaiden
10-08-2003, 02:30 PM
Hey lftrpllr,

I'm just curious, did you not want to play my bro (Vintage) and I? Because you bailed after 3 battles without saying anything and the other time I joined your game, you didn't say anything at all and exited. I just wanted to know whats up? :bluu:

Lucky-st.c,

Do you have Winner/Mr Win Collector's email or AIM/YM? I have been trying to get in contact with that guy for years. I lost contact with him during my early college years. Man, if he came onto Zbattle, things would definitely be interesting :D

SilentNinja
10-08-2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Ubersaurus
FFS never came out on the SNES as far as I'm aware. fatal Fury 2 did, but thats a different game.

Unless you mean the japanese release :p
Uh, I played the US version since 1994....the japanese did came out first that's what you remembered.

beto
10-08-2003, 03:28 PM
Just tried this out a few days ago. Good games lftrpllr. I think the score was 6-6?

Lucky-st.c
10-08-2003, 03:32 PM
I just played this guy named nok who was beating my ass lol. And he's such a nice guy he didn't even gloat or anything even after smoking me with Ryu. I most likely don't stand a chance against Dark Gaiden, Vintage or JSJ but I still want to play them ASAP.

Damn you zbattle dealers. I'm hooked on this shit now.

JumpsuitJesse
10-08-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Lucky-st.c
I just played this guy named nok who was beating my ass lol. And he's such a nice guy he didn't even gloat or anything even after smoking me with Ryu. I most likely don't stand a chance against Dark Gaiden, Vintage or JSJ but I still want to play them ASAP.

Damn you zbattle dealers. I'm hooked on this shit now.

If Nok beat you to a pulp, then Vintage and I will carve you up real nice :) and we are both gloaters :p

Just look for the name "ToadStyle"

For some reason I cant login under Jumpsuit.

SaBrE
10-08-2003, 05:37 PM
you guys suck! all you fools can play but i cant. damnit all to hell. ive tried everything. im done :(

Dark Gaiden
10-08-2003, 05:39 PM
Hey Sabre,

Can you play without your router? Whether it be that PC or another one...

Ubersaurus
10-08-2003, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by SilentNinja

Uh, I played the US version since 1994....the japanese did came out first that's what you remembered.

Yeah I was thinking of the Genesis. Then I remember FFS came out in Japan for the super famicom. Eh, whatever.

Game still rocks.

DVS1
10-08-2003, 07:39 PM
I too can't get on...oh well mabye when a new version comes out it'll work. Has anyone here tried the Zsnes Netplay option? Could that be a good substitute to zbattle?

Dark Gaiden
10-08-2003, 08:08 PM
DVS1,

Do you have a router? If so, have you tried turning it off?
As for using the Netplay in Zsnes alone, it might work in theory...assuming your router or firewall (if you have one) are properly set or disabled.

Host a game tonight and I'll look for you. What's your Z name?

VruS
10-08-2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by SaBrE
you guys suck! all you fools can play but i cant. damnit all to hell. ive tried everything. im done :(

I don't think this is an ip problem, but a zbattle.net problem. Try connecting directly to somebody's game without using zbattle and just zsnes. If you can connect it's probably a zbattle problem.

Try installing zsnes/zbattle into different directories. Try compatibility settings.

JumpsuitJesse
10-09-2003, 09:25 AM
Who the hell is Gummy??

I whipped his ass, and now he's all whiny!! Says hes comin back next week with his "controller" to get revenge! LOL!!!

Iron Surfer
10-09-2003, 10:02 AM
I couldn't get the shit to work either. I think it's the router/firewall that's installed. And that's not going anywhere, since my roommate is REALLY paranoid about having the firewall down, and we need the router to connect both our computers to our cable modem (for ONE low monthly fee that is LOL). So oh well...

lftrpllr
10-09-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Dark Gaiden
Hey lftrpllr,

I'm just curious, did you not want to play my bro (Vintage) and I? Because you bailed after 3 battles without saying anything and the other time I joined your game, you didn't say anything at all and exited. I just wanted to know whats up? :bluu:

Lucky-st.c,

Do you have Winner/Mr Win Collector's email or AIM/YM? I have been trying to get in contact with that guy for years. I lost contact with him during my early college years. Man, if he came onto Zbattle, things would definitely be interesting :D

Sorry, had to bail quick-like no offense. Lately I haven't been able to talk in matches. I know you just type 't' for text messaging, did I somehow disable this feature or what?

-wes

Dark Gaiden
10-09-2003, 01:56 PM
This is a message for all of you guys having problems with Zbattle that have routers:

Visit the forums at www.zbattle.net as they have numerous threads on different types of routers. If your router isn't mentioned, just post and the guys there will surely be able to assist you.

Vintage
10-10-2003, 11:27 AM
Jesse,

Looks like you played FoF recently and got the :rolleyes: treatment :D

JumpsuitJesse
10-10-2003, 12:07 PM
haha!

He's a good sport tho.

Everyone is noticing a surge in good players lately.

As well as some of them getting frustrated with your Sim. Dont scare away all this new comp with your slimy ass Dhalsim damnit!! :p

Ubersaurus
10-10-2003, 12:45 PM
I may have to pick up a PS pelican stick and the convertor to do some Hyper Fighting :evil:

This PC pad is terrible for fighters. No precision at all. And the buttons stick.

JumpsuitJesse
10-10-2003, 01:47 PM
I picked up a PC pad called "Saitek P220"

I like it alot. Not as good as say, SNeS pads, but very good.

DarK TieN
10-10-2003, 05:14 PM
Zbattle is da shizzle!!!!!! heheh .. I have some game for suggestion .. these are for the famicom .. "Tae Kwan doe" That games the bomb! hehe "Bombliss" <~~~~ IMO best tetris game of its kind! :D ... And of course I've never played but can anyone check out "River City Ransom 2"? 1 I spent many a hour on just beating on school kids for their lunch money to fund my operation for freedom and sushi, which is never a bad thing! :evil:

VruS
10-10-2003, 06:47 PM
gaiden made me retire from ssf2 :( . Dhalsim vs guile is one big huge gay match :( . I'm sticking to 3s.

JumpsuitJesse
10-11-2003, 11:42 AM
Hey Wes,

I played your roommate a few matches....

He just shut down and left after I demolished him. Didnt even say GG, or laters....

I think I made him mad. :)

Vintage
10-11-2003, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by VruS
gaiden made me retire from ssf2 :( . Dhalsim vs guile is one big huge gay match :( . I'm sticking to 3s.


I only hope Vrus' departure will not be in vain. But rather, inspire others, to take up the good fight :cool:

JumpsuitJesse
10-11-2003, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Vintage



I only hope Vrus' departure will not be in vain. But rather, inspire others, to take up the good fight :cool:

Dont try to sugar coat the turd that is Guile Vs Dhalsim!!! That fight is more lopsided than ST Ryu Vs WW Honda!!

You scared off another opponent!! Way to go Vintage!!! :mad: :p

brian
10-11-2003, 08:08 PM
I'll fight guile vs dhalsim :P. why not. according to
http://games.t-akiba.net/sf2/diagrama.html
its only a 6-4 match. better than in ST where its 7-3. So I think if I lose more than 6 out of 10 its my own fault :P.

Vintage
10-11-2003, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse


Dont try to sugar coat the turd that is Guile Vs Dhalsim!!! That fight is more lopsided than ST Ryu Vs WW Honda!!

You scared off another opponent!! Way to go Vintage!!! :mad: :p


Well...I suppose I could just pick Ken then, right? Or better yet, maybe bring Ryu out of retirement :)

Originally posted by brian
I'll fight guile vs dhalsim :P. why not. according to
http://games.t-akiba.net/sf2/diagrama.html
its only a 6-4 match. better than in ST where its 7-3. So I think if I lose more than 6 out of 10 its my own fault :P.


It all comes down to individual players. Statistics wont have any barings once the actual match begins.

guado
10-11-2003, 09:38 PM
man i wish i could play this game. i recently broke my wrist so i can move my fingers but not that much and usually when i do their either stiff and uncofortable or stiff and painfull. but i'll download iit. is there a way you can watch others play?

Cesar
10-12-2003, 02:00 AM
:mad:.....okay i have like 2 pads and a MAS stick with a PC converter to use....but when i got to configure it won't let me input any of pads or Mas/converter into the configuration......can anybody tell what im doing wrong or something that i need to do?????......thx

Cez TS

isamu
10-12-2003, 05:06 PM
Im on there but most of the time all the servers are full a lot of the time people have a different version the same game making it a pain in the ass to get a game going:(

Maxstah
10-12-2003, 06:06 PM
jesse. I just did a quick read of this whole thread. Sounds interesting but the whole snes thing... does it really play like true HF? If i remember right blanka doesn't even have the pimp slap jump fierce animation. I wouldn't mind trying it out if it really feels like hf or 80% close to it.

brian
10-12-2003, 09:20 PM
there are characters other than shotos out there people.
k thx.

:lame:

PS this is coming from a guy who finds guile vs shoto to be the funnest match in street fighter history... but this is getting insanely repetitive.

PPS, Id play balrog if I could, but I cant do the TAPs. So I'm starting to learn Vega, so at least I could mix it up more on my end...

JumpsuitJesse
10-12-2003, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Maxstah
jesse. I just did a quick read of this whole thread. Sounds interesting but the whole snes thing... does it really play like true HF? If i remember right blanka doesn't even have the pimp slap jump fierce animation. I wouldn't mind trying it out if it really feels like hf or 80% close to it.

In a word....YES. It's really really good for what it is. Dont expect arcade perfection, but its alot of fun and although the animations are not all there, the priorities are.

Its very addicting.

Just ask Wes....he's been on it for a while now. Lotsa fun if you like OG SF games.

JumpsuitJesse
10-12-2003, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by brian
there are characters other than shotos out there people.
k thx.

:lame:

PS this is coming from a guy who finds guile vs shoto to be the funnest match in street fighter history... but this is getting insanely repetitive.

PPS, Id play balrog if I could, but I cant do the TAPs. So I'm starting to learn Vega, so at least I could mix it up more on my end...

Hey, don't tell me anything.

If you beat my Ken down, then u earn the right to face Fei Long :D

By the way, when is the new version of Zbattle coming out??

Veeb0rg
10-13-2003, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse


Hey, don't tell me anything.

If you beat my Ken down, then u earn the right to face Fei Long :D

By the way, when is the new version of Zbattle coming out??

Hey, Just wanted to introduce my self, I'm a Senior Admin over at Zbattle.net.

We just released a new updated client for zbattle yesterday as a matter of fact.

It can be found on the homepage.

lftrpllr
10-13-2003, 05:59 AM
Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse
Hey Wes,

I played your roommate a few matches....

He just shut down and left after I demolished him. Didnt even say GG, or laters....

I think I made him mad. :)

Too funny=)
Hey, do you ever have trouble buffering moves with ken/ryu? I'm wondering if it's a speed issue (not buffering fast enough) or a execution problem? Maybe it's just me (or my stick), but I seem to have no problem when I just play a game *not* on zbattle. Anyone else have this problem ever? Any tips/cheats to make things work easier?

-wes

lftrpllr
10-13-2003, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse


In a word....YES. It's really really good for what it is. Dont expect arcade perfection, but its alot of fun and although the animations are not all there, the priorities are.

Its very addicting.

Just ask Wes....he's been on it for a while now. Lotsa fun if you like OG SF games.

SNES HF and SSF2 are way different then the arcade but if you're a fan of those versions of sf like myself, you'll completely dig zbattle. IMO, SSF2 on SNES is one of the best versions of sf on any home system even though it's far from arcade perfect. HF for SNES is pretty different from the arcade too, but still hella fun. If you're oldschool and curious at all, take a look it's definitely worth it.

-wes

JumpsuitJesse
10-13-2003, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by Veeb0rg


Hey, Just wanted to introduce my self, I'm a Senior Admin over at Zbattle.net.

We just released a new updated client for zbattle yesterday as a matter of fact.

It can be found on the homepage.

Welcome to SRK, Veeb0rg!

I have but one question for you....

Has the zbattle staff ever thought of porting this matching service over to Mame and MameX for Xbox??

How about Zbattle for Xbox?

Ok...so that was 2 questions.


Oh and Wes, I have NO problems doing any of the moves or combos...on or off zbattle.

Veeb0rg
10-13-2003, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse


Welcome to SRK, Veeb0rg!

I have but one question for you....

Has the zbattle staff ever thought of porting this matching service over to Mame and MameX for Xbox??

How about Zbattle for Xbox?

Ok...so that was 2 questions.


Oh and Wes, I have NO problems doing any of the moves or combos...on or off zbattle.

No on both questions.

Also Zbattle Provides no actual net code, so therefore wouldn't work with mame, as it has no built in netcode.

Maxstah
10-13-2003, 03:11 PM
jesse come on mirc and msg me , need roms. omars comin over in a bit with a pad or stick to try it out with me. u can walk me through set up. peace

Atmos
10-13-2003, 03:28 PM
Hey all, get ready for the Atmos come back, I'm getting my DSL soon.

Btw, did you know you can record your matches with zsnes? Click on misc, then movie opn. Pick a slot, click record . Note that you need to set "save data" on "local" in the multiplayer menu and rename the movie file according to the rom name (don't change the extension).

The only problem I encountered is when there's a lag spike during the game, it can fuck the video up and desync it. But if you're playing matches, it's worth it, you can send the files to your friends and show how much you kick ass :cool:

JumpsuitJesse
10-13-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Veeb0rg


No on both questions.

Also Zbattle Provides no actual net code, so therefore wouldn't work with mame, as it has no built in netcode.

Ok, well how hard would it be to port this thing over to mame?? I'll pay you money!! Not kiddin either!!

If it has no netcode, then I wonder how the hell do you guys get the connections to be so good! I mean I have ZERO lag on alot of my matches.....and this is with players from Spain, UK, and all over the states!

DVS1
10-13-2003, 05:11 PM
Wow, I finally got it working with the latest version. It's great!!! I played people from Spain, Germany and even Holland with it going skitzo like one or two times and I'm from the East Coast. wow...just...wow :D

FistOfFury
10-13-2003, 08:32 PM
Hi

Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse


If it has no netcode, then I wonder how the hell do you guys get the connections to be so good! I mean I have ZERO lag on alot of my matches.....and this is with players from Spain, UK, and all over the states!

zbattle doesn't handle the netplay activity during your matches, zsnes does. zbattle is just a frontend to set up the connection between the two players, then zsnes takes over and works its magic to give you the zero lag matches.


Originally posted by Veeb0rg


Hey, Just wanted to introduce my self, I'm a Senior Admin over at Zbattle.net.



Hold on a sec, if you're Senior Admin, then what does that make me? Neohpyte/Junior Admin? :( :depress:


Originally posted by Vintage
Jesse,

Looks like you played FoF recently and got the :rolleyes: treatment :D

:rolleyes:

JumpsuitJesse
10-13-2003, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Maxstah
jesse come on mirc and msg me , need roms. omars comin over in a bit with a pad or stick to try it out with me. u can walk me through set up. peace

Hope u got ur controls all set up correctly!

SO tell us....how do you like it?? Good?? Bad?? Ok??

Dark Gaiden
10-13-2003, 10:09 PM
CezTS,

How about this: Try uninstalling your SBC Yahoo Programs/Apps that came with your dsl package when you originally installed it. Basically, see if you can get your dsl running without all of the SBC junk. Hopefully that might bypass your firewall :)

2 Card Monte
10-14-2003, 12:55 AM
Just to tell everyone, this program is playable with 56k! I was playing someone from France, and I had barely any lag!

Oh and Vintage and Gaiden, sorry about the game we had, my bro wouldnt get off the internet >.< so i couldnt get back on till later.

Veeb0rg
10-14-2003, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by FistOfFury

Hold on a sec, if you're Senior Admin, then what does that make me? Neohpyte/Junior Admin? :( :depress:
:rolleyes:

your a forum admin.. not a zbattle admin.. theres only 3 zbattle admins.. Ian, Myself and Unknown, Since I own the server, I'm a Senior Admin, Unknown is just an Admin *even thou he does more work then I* and Ian is the Owner/Admin

Cesar
10-14-2003, 10:05 AM
you know never mind......its frustrating as it is...so im just gonna unistall all that Zbattle crap..to go through all that stuff but thx for all the help...anyways yeah lates!

Maxstah
10-14-2003, 04:06 PM
jesse its pretty cool. Great speed with barely any lag at times at worse. Bad part is its snes. lotta quirks like missing animations and priorities are screwy but hey, it is what it is. This is first SF playing for me since ecc so its fun fer now. Played some cat from UK (nuk?) or something. He's pretty good. I feel scrubby playing people on this pad at times. Hope people know i don't suck this bad in the real version. I'm sure people will get tired of playing me in HF cuz i'm pure blanka in that game. snes blanka got raped. crouching fierce should be stuffin/trading with fb's all day and i've yet to get one in. ONE! anyhow. cya later on jesse might be on round 9 tonite.

kolp
10-14-2003, 06:50 PM
I wanted to play but it wont let me must be some router problems . How to get around it, i read on there site in the faq on how to fix the problem but didn't know what to do. Can someone tell me step by step.

SaBrE
10-14-2003, 07:17 PM
ok sorry, havent been around the past few days. anyway, i just got done testing zsnes out with a buddy without zbattle. he hosted and i logged on to him just fine. no problems at all. so now im really stumped cuz it cant be my router now. i reinstalled everything too. still nothing happens inside zbattle. it just wont launch zsnes :mad:

Dark Gaiden
10-14-2003, 07:25 PM
Hey Sabre,

Did you install the new version of Zbattle? And if so, did you download winsock? So, when you click "start" on Zbattle, what happens? Does your ZSNES open up? And if so, what does it say? "Waiting for client?"

Maxstah
10-14-2003, 07:44 PM
got it pointing to the right path? zsnes that is.

SaBrE
10-14-2003, 07:44 PM
should i install it? i thought it was only for older operating systems(winsock that is) i did install the new version tho. i figure xp already has all that crap. yeah everything is pointing to the right place

Dark Gaiden
10-14-2003, 08:13 PM
Sabre,

Just download it anyway. What about when you click "start," what happens? Just curious, what DSL do you have? SBC?

SaBrE
10-14-2003, 08:30 PM
nah i have cable. cox... ill try installing it anyway. but like i said, the problem im having is exactly the same as in the old version. it does absolutely nothing when i click on start game. its as if i never hit the button at all. so it has to be a software issue IMO... but who knows


EDIT: just tried to install it(winsock), XP doesnt allow me to

Dark Gaiden
10-14-2003, 08:31 PM
So...you mean that the ZSNES window doesn't even open up when you click "start?"

SaBrE
10-14-2003, 08:35 PM
nothing happens at all. i reinstalled everything. made sure i got the right version of zsnes(1.36). pointed everything zbattle needs to the right directory. even followed the rules on the first page of this thread and nothing....

Dark Gaiden
10-14-2003, 08:36 PM
Can you even play roms offline through Zsnes?

SaBrE
10-14-2003, 09:41 PM
i am a dumbass right now. i admit, i missed one part. didnt know it had to be installed in the same directory as znes. damn zbattle is misleading. dunno why it needs to be installed in same directory yet still ask where the executable is at. makes no sense hehe. oh well. it finally works. works great too. too bad i got a shitty sidewinder pro that doesnt like special moves to come out. oh wells. get a new pad i guess

thanx for anyones help

JumpsuitJesse
10-14-2003, 09:44 PM
Hey wes, sorry for leaving so abruptly. My connection just died out for now damn reason. Great matches. Your Rog is one solid brawler.

Dark Gaiden
10-14-2003, 09:45 PM
Alright Boys & Girls...

Sabre is officially on. Everything is fully functional (finally!) on his end. I'm sure many of you are wondering, "Well...how did you guys make it happen, given all his prior tribulations with the damn program?" The answer is a lot funnier than you think. Apparently Mr. Sabre (only I can call him that) forgot to put his Zbattle within the same directory as his ZSNES. Now, before you go flamin' him w/pm's, I just want to let you all know that "it" even happens to the best of them. Apparently, Sabre was just too busy watching prior KI vids between him & Mr. Wizard from the good ol' Xband days of '96 to notice that portion of my bro's (Vintage) first post on this thread :D

The moral of the story kids...even nostalgia often gets the better of us :)

SaBrE
10-14-2003, 09:48 PM
rofl!!!! hahahahaatleast i solved it myself tho hehehe. so atleast i still got that!

jsj: sorry dude, didnt see ya there on zbattle. i just finished playing gaiden and forgot to shut it down. we can get some games in, hopefully il lget a decent pad tomorrow, so hopefully then...

time for bed.

peace

JumpsuitJesse
10-14-2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by SaBrE
rofl!!!! hahahahaatleast i solved it myself tho hehehe. so atleast i still got that!

jsj: sorry dude, didnt see ya there on zbattle. i just finished playing gaiden and forgot to shut it down. we can get some games in, hopefully il lget a decent pad tomorrow, so hopefully then...

time for bed.

peace

Gaiden will initiate u well.....kinda like hazing a freshman into highschool :p

Yeah, we should fight sometime.

lftrpllr
10-15-2003, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse
Hey wes, sorry for leaving so abruptly. My connection just died out for now damn reason. Great matches. Your Rog is one solid brawler.

Thanks, and all this time I thought it was me. Wish I could give you a better fight, I can't play Ken (or any character with fb motions). For some reason my stick works like shit whn I try and do fb/dp motions but works for everything else, I don't get it. GG's we'll play again sometime, hopefully I'll put up a better fight.

-wes

DVS1
10-15-2003, 08:26 AM
hmmmm i wonder if this happened to anyone. I created a game and someone came in and downloaded the game from me. Before the transfer could finish the person left. I then tried to select the same rom but for some reason IT'S GONE! Poof, vanished.......am I going crazy?


:D -wes =p

brian
10-15-2003, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by DVS1
hmmmm i wonder if this happened to anyone. I created a game and someone came in and downloaded the game from me. Before the transfer could finish the person left. I then tried to select the same rom but for some reason IT'S GONE! Poof, vanished.......am I going crazy?

Yes this happened to me too! Weird! :eek:

Cesar
10-15-2003, 12:25 PM
:mad: damn it.....hmm if anyone that has and is playing zbattle online with DSL/SBC yahoo ....please reply cause i need to know whats up with this supposedly firewall that it has thats TURTLING my shit.........

Cez TS

JumpsuitJesse
10-15-2003, 04:47 PM
Cesar, you have to disable the firewall in your connection settings.

Go to Start, Control Panel, Internet and Network Connections, then go to the Properties of the connection, go to Advanced, and disable it there by unchecking the firewall option.

Josh-TheFunkDOC
10-15-2003, 04:51 PM
Hey all, I'm FunkDOC on there. Dark Gaiden, you're the Gaiden on there who pwned me, right? :)

Well, anyway, I just got my new computer and there are a few problems with zbattle:

1. I can't create games. The window never appears.

2. I can't chat. I type and hit the Send button, but nothing gets sent.

3. I can join other games but not actually get to play. The ZSNES window never even pops up when the other person tries to start.

So I'm just wondering what the heck is up. My old computer ran on Win98 (zbattle ran fine there, aside from being laggy due to comp's general shittiness), and this one uses XP (Professional edition, in case that means anything).

Also, I have one more question...

Are there any good PS2 to USB/whatever convertors? The only one I've known of connects to a printer (yes, weird I know), something which I don't have right now. Reason for this question is that I have a Hori Soul Calibur 2 stick which I would just love to use.

Thanks in advance, and looking forward to playing you SERIOUS old schoolers,
Josh

P.S. Anyone here interested in non-fighters? I'm a fan of Contra 3 and Smash TV myself, as well as the Magical Drop series.

kolp
10-15-2003, 06:23 PM
I still can't get this to work. Before i had the wrong rom now i have the right one. Everytime i connect it show the connected screen only. I dont have a firewall software and i dont have a check when i go to network connections its all unchecked. I fixed the router issue or atleast i think i did. In zbattle opition menu my rom path is correct.

I had some of the same problem as Josh-TheFunkDOC has. Well sometimes i do when i chat i see me chatting but later on the words are not showing unless i disconnect and reconnect again.

SaBrE
10-15-2003, 08:31 PM
make sure you didnt do what i did lol. make sure the zbattle directory IS placed IN the zsnes directory. that is a must... try that if it isnt like that

i got a question for anyone that knows how the zsnes latency issue works. i hate my pad. i use the shitty sidewinder pro usb(grey with a 6 button face, d-pad is analog) im kinda used to this pad sort of. i can do all the moves pretty consistently. but when i play online. while its not laggy at all, my controls arent precise at all. it can be a bitch to do charge moves and dp's.

anyway, my question is. is putting the latency to 1 decrease the lag present while lowering input refresh rates? like what if i set it to 2, would lag be a little more noticeable but, at the same time, my refresh rate on my input commands raise higher for more accurate controls?

i know its like this on kaillera when you pick connection type. most people use the good option. selecting good doesnt take a lot of bandwidth from the server you are connecting to, but you only get ao control refresh rate of 20fps. so basically, your controls dont register for 40 frames in a second. but if you jack the connection level to excellent, you take a little more bandwidth but your input refresh goes up to 30 fps which changes a lot. personally, i think most people dont know this that play kaillera cuz everyone plays on good setting and its total ass. especially when using mame cuz games go in slow motion.

so im just wondering if the latency # settings on znes serve the same function. just wondering if anyone has stats on the numbers.

lftrpllr: good games too. you owned me. just wait til i get a decent pad, or better yet, a stick, lol! your rog is too mean. i hate him more in ssf2 than in st cuz of his mid hitting rush punch. argh.. hehe

soma
10-15-2003, 08:36 PM
I finally got all my connection issues worked out heh. I'm playing as "CoB" now.

JumpsuitJesse
10-15-2003, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by SaBrE
make sure you didnt do what i did lol. make sure the zbattle directory IS placed IN the zsnes directory. that is a must... try that if it isnt like that

i got a question for anyone that knows how the zsnes latency issue works. i hate my pad. i use the shitty sidewinder pro usb(grey with a 6 button face, d-pad is analog) im kinda used to this pad sort of. i can do all the moves pretty consistently. but when i play online. while its not laggy at all, my controls arent precise at all. it can be a bitch to do charge moves and dp's.

anyway, my question is. is putting the latency to 1 decrease the lag present while lowering input refresh rates? like what if i set it to 2, would lag be a little more noticeable but, at the same time, my refresh rate on my input commands raise higher for more accurate controls?

i know its like this on kaillera when you pick connection type. most people use the good option. selecting good doesnt take a lot of bandwidth from the server you are connecting to, but you only get ao control refresh rate of 20fps. so basically, your controls dont register for 40 frames in a second. but if you jack the connection level to excellent, you take a little more bandwidth but your input refresh goes up to 30 fps which changes a lot. personally, i think most people dont know this that play kaillera cuz everyone plays on good setting and its total ass. especially when using mame cuz games go in slow motion.

so im just wondering if the latency # settings on znes serve the same function. just wondering if anyone has stats on the numbers.

lftrpllr: good games too. you owned me. just wait til i get a decent pad, or better yet, a stick, lol! your rog is too mean. i hate him more in ssf2 than in st cuz of his mid hitting rush punch. argh.. hehe

Dude, I would say get another pc pad. I got the Saitek P220 pc usb pad and its the bomb for only 10 smackeroonies!

I play on latency 1 and i have ZERO lag. All my moves come out when i want them to, and its as if we were playing side by side on a snes. Try the saitek p220. Its take a beating and its still tickin fine.

brian
10-15-2003, 11:39 PM
so when's the first shoryuken.com zbattle ssf2 tournament?

SaBrE
10-16-2003, 05:34 AM
jsj: yeah thats the one i was thinking of getting. everyone tells me it controls well, even tho it looks like a peice of shit haha. hopefully i'll be able to pick one up whenever i can get some dough. bills have been tight lately....

lftrpllr
10-16-2003, 09:28 AM
GG's Sabre, I can tell you know your shit but a good controller is hard to come by (it really affects execution, doesn't it?). Mine's ok for charge characters, but motion characters are a no-no with my set up. We'll have to play again sometime.
Sorry Maxstah, I got going on a set while I was waiting around. Did you play anymore games and get your lag issues resolved?
BTW, if there was interest and we did do a an online tournament, how would it be set up? Would there be real-time online brackets so it could all be done in one day or would/could it be a multi-day event?

-wes

brian
10-16-2003, 09:37 AM
i figure the best way to do a tournament would be to have all the people participating in some sort of chat room. Like say in a particular mirc channel. From there we could set up the matches, report back results, etc..

Maxstah
10-16-2003, 03:32 PM
yea my pc was runnin at 20% had to reboot and fixed my lag problem. But i am getting fustrated trying to do anything on this POS pad. I feel like a scrub (and play probably) it sucks cuz the few people i have played i know , know what they're doing and know it would be great battles if i had a stick. just fustrating is all. I used to have a adapter to use MAS stick on there. ordered it from hong kong but unfortunatly that broke last year while on kaillera kick. well maybe one day i'll get another. Wes roomate u have a good rog . nice patterns and brian if same one i played nice guile. cya all lil later.

JumpsuitJesse
10-16-2003, 03:34 PM
Nice games, CoB. Your Chun is too cool.

Max, get a better adapter....so we can do some more HF!!!

Atmos
10-17-2003, 10:51 AM
Lowering latency reduces the button delay. At latency 3, if you press jump, it will jump a little while after you pressed the key. Putting it to latency 1 reduces this delay alot, so it's very important to put it to 1 if you play fighting games.

The drawback is you MAY lose fps. If you both have good connection and arent too far away, it should run perfectly or close to perfect.

SaBrE
10-17-2003, 12:00 PM
thats not answering my question. does changing the latency affect my input refresh rate? like it does in kaillera? or does my input always stay at 60fps? thats what im wondering

Vintage
10-17-2003, 12:04 PM
It's good to see that Atmos' broadband dilemma has finally been solved. Hopefully you will get to play Sabre on KI. If and when you guys do play, feel free to let the rest of us know how it went. After reading the last few posts, it has come to my attention that people are still using horrible pads (ala the MS Sidewinder). People, feel free to do some research and personally look into some pads that are more to your liking. I have recommended the SNES pad before. Apparently "Gummy" is the only one who bothered to listen->and he's not even on SRK :)

So...to all you guys with inept pads/sticks, firewalls, routers, contraband, etc., my heart goes out to you...really :D

SaBrE
10-17-2003, 01:54 PM
man im too poor right now to get new gear. brother(roomate) been jobless for a bit. so im kinda stuck with the gaywinder...errr....sidewinder.

when i get a chance, i'll get a pad to mod a stick so i dont have to worry about pad's, period!

and we already played KI. felt really weird playing. havent really touched the game(snes version atleast) since late 1996. i can get back into the groove tho...

kolp
10-17-2003, 04:08 PM
Anybody that fixed there problem with zbattle can you help me out. I have a router issue which is a linksys. So anyone iwth a linksys who fixed there problem tell me how you fixed it.

Atmos
10-17-2003, 04:17 PM
go to virtual server, add port 7845 and put in your ip adress

BloB MaSTeR FleX
10-17-2003, 06:18 PM
I found out the problem with linksys routers. The main problem is the firmwire versions. When I had the June 24th 2003 version, zbnet wasnt working. I found the original firmwire on a disc and I restored it back to the July 2001 version (1.39). After port forwarding ZSNES connected fine and now its perfect. Hope this helps.

SaBrE
10-17-2003, 07:12 PM
that is not true. i upgraded to the latest firmware version and it works fine. most peoples problem with port forwarding is that they arent assigning themselves a static ip and disabling dhcp when using port forwarding. i have no issues with the current firmware whatsoever

Vintage
10-17-2003, 07:27 PM
Hey Sabre,

I just ran into "KOLP." It sounds like he's having the same problem with his Linksys router you were having. Do you mind posting exactly what you did do to get around your router here on this thread so that other people (along with Kolp) will figure it out? -Thx

SaBrE
10-17-2003, 09:55 PM
well i need to knopw what his problem is. i sent him a pm but he hasnt responded yet... my problem wasnt the router. it was configured right the whole time. my problem was that i overlooked one of your steps in your initial post in this thread. i didnt realize that zbattle had to be installed in the root directory of zsnes. that was my only problem the whole time. which is really silly since zbattle asks you to point it to the proper directory for the zsnes executable. hella misleading.

but if it is the router, i guess i can give basic directions on what to do. this is all running under XP of course.

first step is to log into the router (192.168.1.1 pass:admin)

once inside, click on the status tab. it should give you all your address protocol the isp assigns you. plus you need to know what the ip the router assigned your computer(192.168.1.2 ; 192.168.1.3...4....5...6 and so forth) usually the first computer hooked up to the router is 192.168.1.2 and the second is 1.3. you can find out more by clicking on the dhcp tab and looking in the dhcp client table of all the ip's the router assigned to anything hooked up to the network...

now that this is established. it may be a good idea to write all the ip addresses on the status page. not neccessary but it is recommended. you will be using these numbers to assign your computer a static ip address. if you dont write the numbers down, then leave this window open so you have immediate access to the ip's

now that we know the ip's, go to control panel>network connections. right click your lan/internet connection and click properties. double click on internet protocol(tcp/ip). you should now be in a window where you can set ip addresses. right now its all set on automatic, but we want to enter the numbers in manually.

click on "use the following ip address"

for ip address. you need to enter the ip address the router assigned to your computer as stated earlier (192.168.1.2....3....4....5)

next enter the subnet mask in the appropriate area( this info should be in the linksys router's status page that we left open remember) usually the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0. pretty easy number.

next is default gateway. this is the router's ip address(192.168.1.1 for the linksys router)

now you need to set the dns servers. most isp's give you 3 dns servers. windows only needs 2, a primary and an alternate. so usually, just pick the first 2 on the list and you'll be ok.

go ahead and apply changes. now you successfully assigned a static ip to your computer. if you have other computers on the network, do the same for those so everyone will still have a connection.

now that the static ip is finished, you have to disable the DHCP server in the router menu. click on the dhcp tab and disable it(first option) and apply changes.

after all this, your computer might be able to reastablish connection to the lan/internet immediately but sometimes it doesnt. if it doesnt. restart your computer, router, and cable/dsl/whatever. a good restart for a router and modem is to power it off for atleast 10 seconds.

you should now be online. you can now use port forwarding. to open the port for zsnes' online capabilities, use port 7845. log back into the router, click the advanced tab, then click on the forwarding tab. this should bring up the port range forwarding menu.

its a good idea to keep track of which port is for what program and such. thats what the left blank, customized application fields are for. so it would be a good idea to call it zbattle or zsnes. whatever you wanna call it so if you ever needed to tweak the ports in the future, youll know which port it is. cuz like me, my whole list is full of ports, and if you dont name em, you can get lost and wont know which one is the problem if you ever have any...

anyway, like i said earlier the port for zbattle/zsnes is 7845. so go ahead and put that number in both ext.ports. so it should read 7845 to 7845. then checkmark udp. the ip address is the address you want the port to go to. you obviously want it on your computer so fill in the last number that corresponds to your computer and checkmark enable.

and thats it. port forwarding is now a snap. as long as youw the ports of programs, its a breeze...

questions? bitches, gripes, complaints? lol :lol:

hope it helps

kolp
10-17-2003, 10:22 PM
Sorry for not responding early but i was doing a search on port forwarding. It woks now SaBrE thanks for telling me about fort forward. I made a search and downloaded port magic to make it work.

SaBrE
10-17-2003, 10:27 PM
hmm i dunno how that stuff works, but i would still recommend doing it the way it was meant to be done so there are no issues at all(and so i dont feel like it typed all that for nothing :lol: ) its only like a 4 minute procedure heh

but i guess as long as it works...

eks
10-17-2003, 11:24 PM
damn i wanna get in on this, maybe we can meet up on irc, #zbattle on efnet?

brian
10-18-2003, 12:12 PM
great, my internet connection got disconnected for a sec while I was playing, and now I can't get back on zbattle because it says "you cannot log in twice with the same IP". :bluu:

EDIT: fixed now yay

JumpsuitJesse
10-18-2003, 03:38 PM
Holy O'Jeebus!! 79 users were on earlier today!! thats alot of players on all at once!!

Good Games to Brian....ur Guile is one fast charging mawfucl(a!!

SaBrE
10-18-2003, 05:12 PM
brian: yeah dude i had the problem too. i swear, the server is set for a connection to timeout after a day or something lol...

hopefully, ill atleast have a new pad by next weekend, hopefully a stick. motion characters are like impossible on my current pad :( drives me nuts:mad:

Vintage
10-18-2003, 10:58 PM
It looks like Zbattle may be down for some time (check out the forums at www.zbattle.net). So, my question is...who's gonna start posting their IPs?? :cool:

Vintage
10-18-2003, 11:03 PM
Disregard that...it looks like there's some hope yet for Z after all

brian
10-18-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse
Holy O'Jeebus!! 79 users were on earlier today!! thats alot of players on all at once!!

Good Games to Brian....ur Guile is one fast charging ma