Street Fighter #2 impressions (spoilers)

[kenmastersX]

Just got mine 30 minutes ago. :D

Chun Li+Eliza+Cammy=hot. Gratuitious Chun Li asscrack shot on the second page. :p

Flash back sequence is interesting. Ryu has the white headband, and Akuma and Gouken duke it out, after Akuma killed their master. I could only make out a shoryuken from the shadows. :(

It's funny that Bison has a black speech bubble, so that you know it's him talking.

Chun Li in the second scene with Guile has a nice shirt on, and the spiked bracelet as a necklace is a nice touch.

Ken's Shinryuken looks amazing, especially with the flames.

Honda got OWNED by Vega. :p He looks really cool with that trenchcoat, and his vain personality is really shown in the comic.

The Sakura cameo shows her without the headband yet, and she sees her first glimpse of Ryu with the picture Vega drops after the fight. Hm.

The Vega/Ken encounter finishes the comic, leading it up to the next one. I can't wait. ;.;

Only one issue 3 cover is shown at the end, unlike the previous comic that showed all three. It's a whole page though, and I like it. ^_^

The backup story is basically Chun Li and Cammy kicking the shit out of each other, when Chun Li's father is abducted. Note the syringe that he's about to be injected with, and the use of Chinese Kanji that Chun Li and her father use to talk each other at the beginning of the comic. It's a nice touch.

Okay, how about your guy's opinions about it? I know you guys got it as soon as you can, right? :)

Edit: At the end, there's an article about the conventions that UDON went to, and an art contest. Also, it looks like they're asking for assorted fan art/fan mail. This'll be interesting.

[Sano]

Sakura mentions entering a Hot Dog eating contest, just like the SF Zero Anime!

Unlike said Anime, Ken brings a Dragon Punch for Gouken's Grave and not Flowers!

Mention of 12 Dolls and Ken winning the US Martial Arts Tourney!

Will the events play out like every SF Hong Kong Comic - Balrog (Ninja) in love w/Eliza trying to steal her from Ken? Even in SF2V this played out with Chun-Li playing the role of the girl.

I wonder when Eliza thought "....." in issue 1 if she realized that Guile was her Brother In-Law?

Maybe, Sakura will watch an old Ryu Video to inspire her to wear the White Headband?

Fan Art Contest! Draw an SF Girl Fighting an SF Guy! Gonna have to miss this one but I'll participate sooner or later!

Very good issue!

[SF Comic Fan]

This comic is great. Vega completly OWNED Honda which is perfect.

Vega wont try anything with Ken in the next issue for a couple of reasons. 1)He doesn't know that Ken is Ryu's friend and 2) It's way to early in the story for Vega to be defeated (he doesnt have a chance against Ken).I say Vega is just admiring Ken and Eliza's beauty.

One thing that i noticed was different is Vega seemed to dislike Cammy. I thought he always had a thing for her.

Did the Ken special foil cover come out today? I didn't see it at the comic shop.

[kenmastersX]

Originally posted by SF Comic Fan
Did the Ken special foil cover come out today? I didn't see it at the comic shop.

I think in one of the threads here, there was a post about the Power Foil cover coming out 2 weeks after today.

[TiamatRoar]

Originally posted by SF Comic Fan
One thing that i noticed was different is Vega seemed to dislike Cammy. I thought he always had a thing for her.



It's a love-hate relationship, really. At least from what I can tell in SFA3, I imagine it's most similar to one of those "I hate you on the outside and am not afraid to show that, but actually like you on the inside" things.

[Bowling Pin]

I was FINALLY able to get an issue of the comic (missed #1...TOO hot), and I have to say that I am one step closer to attaining nirvana.

Highlights:

-Sakura saying she'll fatten up on hot dogs.
-Ryu's flashback to Gouken vs Akuma.
-Ken dedicating his Shinryuken to Master Gouken.
-Vega schooling E.Honda. :eek:

I love Chun-Li's spiked cuff necklace in the scene where she's in Guile's office; also loved that cute little I.D. of hers.

[Skyler]

A great issue, but i did wanted to see that gouken vs akuma fight. About E.honda getting pawn that badly by vega doesnt really seem to fit considering we have the #1 sumo wrestler losing to a spainish bull fighter. Atleast give E.Honda a fighting chance by smacking vega once before he goes down. Sakura and Kei actually look great and i didnt like that part where ken brings him the shinryuken instead of flowers, atleast bring both with you ken, what you too poor to buy flowers.:mad:
great comic anywayz

[Gojira]

I liked the way that this issue calls attention to the fact Guile completely misses Ryu in the first issue, just because he never took a look at the picture. D'oh!

Great look as always. Kudos for sparing us the gratuitous Sakura upskirt shot after those other nameless panty shots on p. 12 and 13. :P

The Chun Li/ Cammy fight was okay, despite the non-conclusion. I would have liked it more if not for the fact that, aside from the one kick that may or may not have been a Cannon Spike, the fighting was pretty generic.

Fan contest sounds interesting. I'd be interested in seeing what kind of entries come out of it.

One question for UDON: the preview for #2 in SF #1 said "Ryu vs. Ken!", but I didn't see any such fight. What happened there? Was that supposed to be Ken whiffing his Shinryuken at Gouken's grave? :P

[lled78]

Bah! Honda shouldn't lose to Vega! He's got a 7 to 3 advantage!

[lled78]

I'd like to say that I think that Alvin's (the main artist right?) the most impressive artist so far. All characters drawn very well, yet again. Motion and fighting style captures the Street Fighter essence. The details were true to form (Cammy nicknamed the Killer Bee while working at Shadaloo following SF Cannon). I liked the reference to the hot dog eating contest as well =b

I think Adam Warren needs to draw his characters (especially girls) with thinner lips. That was something that really bugged me... well that and the fact that Cammy and Chun Li looked like monkeys.

About the arguement that Vega doesn't know who Ken is, I actually do believe that Vega may know of Ken's relation to Ryu. Don't forget the little doo-hickey that Cammy was wearing when she scouted them out in Chinatown while in SF. Notice on the first page the targeting circle does have Ryu, Ken, and Eliza tagged. That feed, you can see, is being relayed to Shadaloo headquarters. There's a very good bet that Vega did see the video feed. Seeing as how Vega has such an appreciation for beauty, I'm sure he probably noticed Eliza in the feed even if Bison did not. Just my thoughts anyways.

Quote for the day: "Awa-eh?" -- Guile

[lled78]

It's always been a bit confusing for me, but didn't SSF2 originally have Bison giving Cammy her scar? I realize it got taken out eventually since Cammy has the scar while she's still with Shadaloo (Alpha series and Xmen vs SF). The canon guide talks a bit about this story gap but doesn't really offer an explanation.

While still on the topic of Cammy, in Vega and Bison's conversation they did not specifically say "12" dolls. Seeing as how on the cover with all characters minus SF1 (EX does not count in my view) only Juli and Juni are shown, it makes me wonder if the rest of the dolls will be included. Personally, I think the story between Noembelu and T. Hawk will be quite interesting. Also, I'd really like to see Cammy square off with Decapre!

I've read on an online comic shop that Street Fighter is gonna be a six issue series. Does UDON only have an agreement with Capcom or Image Comics to do six issues, and then the contract will be renewed from there if it does well? I've noticed that in cover art discussions, nothing is mentioned past issue 5.

[TiamatRoar]

Originally posted by lled78
It's always been a bit confusing for me, but didn't SSF2 originally have Bison giving Cammy her scar? I realize it got taken out eventually since Cammy has the scar while she's still with Shadaloo (Alpha series and Xmen vs SF). The canon guide talks a bit about this story gap but doesn't really offer an explanation.


There's no explanation because there isn't any that I can think of. ...which is odd, since you're right about her saying that Bison scarred her face in SSF2.



While still on the topic of Cammy, in Vega and Bison's conversation they did not specifically say "12" dolls. Seeing as how on the cover with all characters minus SF1 (EX does not count in my view) only Juli and Juni are shown, it makes me wonder if the rest of the dolls will be included. Personally, I think the story between Noembelu and T. Hawk will be quite interesting. Also, I'd really like to see Cammy square off with Decapre!


Ah, so they don't specifically say 12 Dolls? Honestly, I think only Juni and Juli will make it. The comic book format doesn't seem like it has room for twelve Dolls :( The only chance they have of appearing, unless it's as REALLY brief cameos, is if the comic becomes so profitable and successful that it can afford to spare some space to have them. As it is, judging by the numbers Udon gave, the comic can't take the risk of wasting pages on characters so vague that they only exist in the actual game that wasn't even THE SF2 that had more widestream appeal for all of 1.5 seconds.

...no matter how cool they are :(


I've read on an online comic shop that Street Fighter is gonna be a six issue series. Does UDON only have an agreement with Capcom or Image Comics to do six issues, and then the contract will be renewed from there if it does well? I've noticed that in cover art discussions, nothing is mentioned past issue 5.



Udon said it'll go on for as long as it's successful. The six issues thing is only for the first story arc.

[udoneko]

Street Fighter will continue as long as you guys keeps supporting!

First 6 issue is more like the "Alpha" part, setting up the stage, with main characters like Ryu, Ken, Guile, Chun Li, Charlie, etc.... with outher appearence of the SF cast.

Issue 6 -12 will be the extended part that is more like the SF 2 timeline, and will introduce the others - Fei Long, T.Hawk, Gen, and also focusing on what happen to "Killer Bee" and how she becomes "Cammy".

Then after the first year, we have planned a year round "Tournament" arc to wrap up the Shadaloo era.

And if we go that far, year 3 will be SF 3!!!!!!!

As I mentioned in another thread about sales, we need about 25 to 30 K in order to survive. I know for a fact that we should at least hit 50K readership. Coz compare to the 100K Transfromer Fan base out there, I am 100% sure that I am not over estimating when I say that SF would have a fan base of more than 1/2 of that!

Together, we can make SF history! I would like to make this comic the longest running SF book ever! And we cannot do it without you guys and girls!

[gbursine]

udoneko... I was very satisfied w/ the 2nd comic... though the whole chunli/cammy sidestory threw me off due to the artwork(I thought the even happened wwaaaaaay before the current time, but it was only 6 months[chun and cammy look like kids..])

will karin be in the alpha series or the norm?

[Sano]

Oh yeah, they only mentioned Dolls and not 12 Dolls. Sorry.

Once the comic gets going and develops a Fan Base, maybe they could give the Fans a Dolls One Shot issue, a Limited Series or even just a story for an Annual. I hope at some point they hook TiamatRoar with a Foil Cover and at least a Back Up Story about the Dolls. The man deserves this!

As for me, I'm a Ryu and Chun-Li fan so I'm already happy! Well, I used to like Feilong but when I realized Capcom of Japan did not and due to lack of seeing him in games I kind of forgot about him. Hopefully he'll get the spotlight for a little while in this comic.

[SFMC]

Oh yeah the drawing on cammy and chun was horrible. He had good action scenes but the drawing were kinda whack.

Just saw something about the fanart. I'm sure to do one now.

[TiamatRoar]

Originally posted by sano
I hope at some point they hook TiamatRoar with a Foil Cover and at least a Back Up Story about the Dolls. The man deserves this!


Er.... wow, thanks :sweat:

I wouldn't expect a backup story on them. From what I see, back-up stories are done by guest artists 'in their spare time' for the most part, so I doubt any would be hardcore enough for something like that. 3-4 pages would only make enough room for a cameo. But perhaps I could expect something even better, since they have 15 issues to go before "throw everything away and start on a practically new slate, it's Street Fighter 3!". When I think about it, if they really have an arc that focuses mainly on how Cammy goes from Shadaloo to Delta Red, that would probably have them. Considering that Arc 2 seems to be about Fei Long, Dee Jay, Cammy, and Thunder Hawk, we can deduce that: A) there isn't much you can really do with Fei Long and Dee Jay anyways, so that leaves plenty of room for T. Hawk and Cammy, and B) T. Hawk and Cammy both have Doll relations, so there's plenty of chance, there.

If Rose doesn't show up with a big role in this first arc, I'm quite sure she'll be in the 2nd arc to make up for it. ...hey, at this rate, the 2nd arc might be like the SFA3 Doll arc! :cool:

Random: Depending on how much room there is for her in the first arc, Sakura might have a bigger role in the 2nd arc to also introduce Karin (along with Dan and Blanka). ....so they could rename it to the fighting teenage girls arc or something, I suppose.

Weeeee, it all can fit in, now that I know that there's technically still 6 issues of "alpha" left that isn't based on that whole Ryu Guile Chun arc and it apparently focuses on Cammy's transition according to Udoneko. But, assuming more than just cameos, now I wonder how they'll be able to cram in Final Fight somewhere unless that gets an arc of its own, too (albeit, probably a smaller one since FF games aren't that plot intensive). ...now I'm speculating too much. :p

Back on topic, regarding Issue 2: Vega in Trenchcoat = one of the coolest things ever. In general, he had this whole bad-assedness air about him. Which... is an interesting air for a narcisist character to have. And I liked his Doll rant. But I like anything Doll related :p

Yeesh, Adam's art style is reeeeeeeaaaaaaaaally different from the rest of the comic :eek: Joe Mad's fit in rather seemlessly, but Adam's was just so... different. And Chun and Cammy looked so young, even though it was only 6 months ago. Freaky.

[Rogue328]

Finally read my copy of #2. Great setup for next issue. Remember in the beginning when Bison told Vega he better not mess up? Vega has to recognize Ken, just for the fact that he can't fail in his mission. If he can take Ken, then he can get to Ryu. Just like in the Street Fighter 2 Animated Movie.

Honda being owned by Vega? I don't think so. It should have been a little more even match. Honda didn't get a single shot in. But maybe Honda was to be humiliated for a reason.;)

I liked Adam Warren's back up story. Nothing wrong with the art: That's the whole point of having a guest artist. He/she comes in to mix things up a little bit. Chun Li looked so sad at the end.:(

Mr. Ko, you guys are doing a great job. I even picked up Sentinel #7 because of Udon's involvement. Keep it up. I'm trying to get all my friends hooked.:evil:

[King9999]

Maybe Honda will get his revenge. But Vega's just too fast. :)

[Zamuel]

HATE. WARREN'S. ART.

It was like Krytonite in comparison to the coolness of the rest of the issue. What was up with Chun's leg in the third panel of the second page???

Otherwise the issue was great and it seems like the changes made so far are for the better.

[udoneko]

I do understand that most of us here (including myself) are big fans of Capcom's art style. However, I would like to ask everyone to please respect the guests that has also spend their time in making the back up stories. It might to be a style you particularly like, but they are all very respectible professionals that has each established their own style.

The fact that we are indeed going for a different style with different back up guest is to hopefully diversify the audience too, to introduce more people to this great universe of Street Fighter that we love.

Bear in mind that at this very moment, we still have a lot of people out there (retailers and customers) who has no clue what UDON, Capcom, or SF is, but they are picking up the book just because of J Scott Campbell's Cover, or Adam Warren's art...

I am being very open and frank with you guys. I have nothing to hide as I consider you guys being part of the whole success of this SF book. But the fact that the initial order numbers of SF#2 has sold 5000 more copies of the guest cover EACH to the UDON cover, it shows you how the retailers think....

Not that it is a bad thing that we sell more copies, but in my opinion, I always thought the numbers of each cover ordered should be quite competible.

[Geese Pants]

Has Humberto Ramos(Spectacular Spiderman) considered doing a side story for a future issue?

Since I did see him at the WW convention with the SF #0 Comic.

I'm a big fan of his art.

[Cable2x]

I was a little bothered, as well, that Vega just dominated Honda. While I do think Vega should win that fight, I also think it should have been closer. Maybe they get to meet again.

Another thing: I though Chun-Li's father had been captured when she was really, really young. Even before her teens.

Either way these are small quirks and the issue rocked!!! I'm in it for the long haul. All the way to SF3 when my favorite character appears: Alex!!!:D

[jojo]

man, the art work in this comic is gorgeous. tsang and the rest of the Udon crew have the drawing in this comic down on lock!

as for warren, i respect his style. its different, in a good way. every artist has their style of drawing. that is what makes them different/unique from the others.



Originally posted by udoneko


Bear in mind that at this very moment, we still have a lot of people out there (retailers and customers) who has no clue what UDON, Capcom, or SF is, but they are picking up the book just because of J Scott Campbell's Cover, or Adam Warren's art...



i am not going to lie, when i heard that Udon was going to make a street fighter comic, i was like.."who's Udon?" i wasnt familiar with Udon's work. but now that i am familiar with your work and seeing that you'll are doing a great job turning the best fighting game into a comic, i see this comic going to good places.

keep up the good work! :cool:

i know this question prolly has been asked a million times, but is Udon planning on having posters out on Street Fighter? I am saving a place on my wall in hopes of one. thanks.

[ONE Weapon]

The art for the backup story in #1 was too good:)

[m121akuma]

Just got issue 2 (thank you Motor City Comic Con). Gotta say, It feels more like SF than 1 did. The Shinryuken...Vega...the Gouken vs. Akuma fight...it was all incredible. Yeah, Adam Warren's style was a bit strange, but it was better than I expected. Nice work, and I expect great things of issue 3!

[lled78]

Originally posted by Cable2x
While I do think Vega should win that fight, I also think it should have been closer. Maybe they get to meet again.

Name a game where E. Honda gets dominated by Vega. I can't think of one. In fact most of the time it's usually the other way with Honda dominating Vega.

I find it interesting how Honda always gets stuck with the dumb storylines (Street Fighter Movie Honda vs Dhalsim also a good example). Why? Because he's fat. Since he's fat he must also be stupid. And since he's fat and stupid, he should always lose for no reason at all. Lame.

[Clay]

lled78, did you have money riding on that fight or something? You sound like somebody who is down $50 or something.:D

Anyway, I don't think that there is really anything wrong with Vega taking that fight. He is Shadaloo's #1 one assassin after all, not to mention one of the fastest people in all of SF. How was Honda supposed to hit him? Perhaps if he hadn't been so aggressive...

[TiamatRoar]

Originally posted by lled78


Name a game where E. Honda gets dominated by Vega. I can't think of one. In fact most of the time it's usually the other way with Honda dominating Vega.

I find it interesting how Honda always gets stuck with the dumb storylines (Street Fighter Movie Honda vs Dhalsim also a good example). Why? Because he's fat. Since he's fat he must also be stupid. And since he's fat and stupid, he should always lose for no reason at all. Lame.



Honda was never the most storyline-centric character in either SF2 or SFA3, so I highly doubt any other media would do the same. At best, I guess he'd get a rematch with Vega and/or get to accompany Ryu like in the SF2 animated movie.

"Japan's #1 Warrior" getting pwned by Vega that easily though... Vega is supposed to be incredibly powerful, storyline-wise, but I can see why people would be pissed off that Honda would get beated so easily, considering that every character has fans and that even if he lacks fans that like him for his storyline, Honda especially has a decent amount of gameplay fans. While you expect there to be really powerful characters in a story (such as the main heros and the main villains of course), it's sad that in anything but a fighter, there will be characters that are almost guaranteed to be relegated to "everyone's else's bitch" roles.

...when I think about it, when the opening for such roles exist, and as stated, they're guaranteed to be filled, the 'fatter' characters are almost always some of the ones that fill such roles. First Birdie and now E. Honda. Yeesh.

[zeronian]

sigh, the problem with Honda is that he was attacking. He woulda won if he turtled. he shoulda sat in the corner and RC headbutted Vega to death.

anyways Honda better get some revenge sometime down the line. one character completely killing another like that doesn't make sense. every character should have some chance against any other character storyline-wise, with the exception of bosses like Akuma or Bison or someone like that.

Adam Warren's art is a little wierd, but it's always good to have differing art styles in the backups each issue. and besides it's only a few pages you can put up with it. the main artists however are doing a REALLY good job. all of Udon's artists are really good in everything that they do, Soldier X and Sentinel and especially this.

[CPS_3]

Originally posted by zeronian
sigh, the problem with Honda is that he was attacking. He woulda won if he turtled. he shoulda sat in the corner and RC headbutted Vega to death.

:lol:
Yeah and they should have had panel with him screaming "ROOOOOOOOOLL CANCEL" lmao

[Zamuel]

Originally posted by udoneko
but they are all very respectible professionals that has each established their own style.

The fact that we are indeed going for a different style with different back up guest is to hopefully diversify the audience too, to introduce more people to this great universe of Street Fighter that we love.

Bear in mind that at this very moment, we still have a lot of people out there (retailers and customers) who has no clue what UDON, Capcom, or SF is, but they are picking up the book just because of J Scott Campbell's Cover, or Adam Warren's art...

Quite understandable. I'm glad that the backups will be there each month (and Cheap Shots). That was a tad of a knee jerk reaction to the art. On the flip side, I Warren's cover more than the comic so it could be just the way the fight was done. -Shrugs-

With #5 will Shinkiro actually be doing a backup?

[4neqs]

I just acquired issues 1 and 2 today, and I'm quite happy with how they turned out.

Originally posted by Skyler
i didnt like that part where ken brings him the shinryuken instead of flowers, atleast bring both with you ken, what you too poor to buy flowers.:mad:


Actually, I liked that part, that's where you see difference between simple Ryu and cocky, showoff Ken. :cool:

Also, Sakura being revealed as a E.Honda fangirl (sort of) before her Ryu fangirl days was a real kicker. Another unexpected moment for me was in the side story, where Chun Li used a throw on Cammy's leg.

PS I love the 'cheap shots' shorts at the end of the comics. :lol: Keep up the good work, udon

[Mr.Twelve]

I do understand that most of us here (including myself) are big fans of Capcom's art style. However, I would like to ask everyone to please respect the guests that has also spend their time in making the back up stories. It might to be a style you particularly like, but they are all very respectible professionals that has each established their own style.

Yeh I totally agree. I'm actually looking forward to the backup stories. It's nice to see the different styles portrayed by different artists. Diversity = very cool.:D

Great issue udon. I particularly like the colours used for the Gouken/Akuma fight. Woww..

One thing that caught me was how Vega's claws disappears before n after the fight. Nothing biggie... I guess its detatchable.

After that I started re-reading issue 1 again. Oh shit... I actually missed the scene where Cammy is spying over the restaurant. That's pretty obvious haha. Also, after closer inspetcion, you can actually see Chunli eating in the same restaurant, sitting across Ryu.:D

[Siegfried]

Just got #2 and I'm really impressed. Being a storyline scrub, I still can't avoid being extremely happy with the choices you've made. Everything seems logical, although I still can't figure out when in the storyline this is supposed to take place.

If I can make one request though: please have an editorial at some point where you acknowledge the differences between Japanese and American names (Shotokan/Ansatsuken, Vega/Bison/Balrog, Charlie/Nash, etc).

I liked the idea with Sakura being a Honda fangirl. I mean, Ryu isn't exactly the most famous fighter around so why should she be obsessed with him?

Also liked how Cammy didn't have a real name. I guess you're going to let her get a name once she leaves Shadaloo (which would mean that she was baptized in England, though not born there).

Not a fan of Warren (ugh!) but whatever makes the comic sell, I guess. As long as the regular art stays the same, I won't mind.

Oh, and I'm getting two copies of each issue. One to read and one to keep in minty-mint condition. Hope that helps. I think I'll try and promote this comic among other hardcore Swedish SF fans as well, many of them might be interested.

[SF Comic Fan]

Sorry for going off topic but Seigfried your site rules. I used to go there a few years ago but the address changed. Glad i got the link again.

Just so i can be on topic a little .... um .... Ken is the best....

[The V]

Hi

I'm new here at shoryuken.com. I think it is really cool that this site has a forum specifcally for the SF comic. Here's my two cents on issue two.

So far I'm really impressed with the art quality of this series. Personally, out of the 3 issues released to date (0,1, and 2), two has the best art. The colour usage is excellent and the drawings are sharp and clean.

I found it refreshing how some characters are drawn wearing different clothes like Ken and Chun Li. I also like how Cammy has high tech gadgets to use while spying. I thought the Ryu and Ken casual conversation about Eliza to be a nice touch. It shows the normal-everyday person side of those two (and it shows that Ryu does notice women!). The Vega/Balrog battle against Honda and Sakura's cameo was well paced and entertaining.

Although Adam Warren's new style isn't really my cup of tea, it is distinct. I know Warren can do "normal" looking manga drawings as I've seen some of his earlier work on, I think, a book called Gen 13.

The Vega/Balrog meeting Ken cliffhanger really worked on me. I was almost disappointed when I noticed the "to be continued" message.

Needless to say, I'm eagerly looking forward to issue three!