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ILL4REAL
10-26-2003, 03:00 AM
state your opinions why he is... what we can learn from him

btw, is ther any fil-am participants on evo???

Lala
10-26-2003, 04:33 PM
Nah man,i don't think that boy is that good. It's just that he had been the champ for like uh.....3yrs now.:confused: . What do you think? About if we could learn from him. I don't think he'll teach us anything. I don't think he want someone to defeat him. I personally will soon though. :evil: . But i doubt it. I'm not gonna spent my time trying to defeat him. I got better shit to do. Anyway,gl to all you ppl that's trying to defeat him. He's not that good personally. It's just that he adapts faster than you ppl on here. I don't play games that much(used to anyway),but if i do go back to playing games,i think i'd have a chance against him. You guys probably are like. BLah blah,he aint shit. :lol: . But i'm the only person who know how good i am. This is all for now.


Edit* Let the flames begin. :lol: :lol: :lol:

hadoken king
10-26-2003, 06:36 PM
justin is that damn good.... no doubt about it....

he can adapt to any player in 1 match of playing them. he knows EVERYTHING about the game. it's like, his combos aren't the top superb stuff that people like taiji, soo, etc, do, but his knowledge of the game lets him own with basics, because he will block or get around everything that you can throw at him, and he will get you every single time with the basics

hypermegachi
10-26-2003, 11:50 PM
yeah...in general he's not a really flashy player, but he's not playing for show, he's playing to win

TheWanderer
10-27-2003, 01:02 PM
Just out of curiosity,what's J-wong best team?

hypermegachi
10-27-2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by TheWanderer
Just out of curiosity,what's J-wong best team?

i'm not quite sure...but i believe his best team is team row and one of the storm/sent variants

hadoken king
10-27-2003, 01:42 PM
he pwned with santhrax at CF the other night

ILL4REAL
10-27-2003, 08:27 PM
what dafuck u talkin bout... justin timberlake.. pop to hiphop

he's WHACKKKKKKK!!!!

demulix
10-27-2003, 10:36 PM
ive seen him lots with mag/cable/cammy

hadoken king
10-28-2003, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by demulix
ive seen him lots with mag/cable/cammy

off of forgo.net huh???

yeah, that's his old team

Crono_Mashitoka
10-28-2003, 08:29 AM
He has to be that damn good if he is still the champ three straight years in a row. It may not look like much when you watch him play because he doesn't go for the flashy stuff, only the basics, not to mention he can block his ass off. He has what virtually no other players have when playing this game. Adaptation and patience.

hadoken king
10-28-2003, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Crono_Mashitoka
He has to be that damn good if he is still the champ three straight years in a row. It may not look like much when you watch him play because he doesn't go for the flashy stuff, only the basics, not to mention he can block his ass off. He has what virtually no other players have when playing this game. Adaptation and patience.

very well put

Holo141
10-31-2003, 12:58 AM
That's pretty wierd.. I play in touries of a game called Armored Core, and the camp there, Oliver, dont go with flash either and he has been undefeated for 5 years at MOC armored core finals.. Maybe flashly is a bad idea in all games..:bluu:

Crono_Mashitoka
10-31-2003, 09:11 AM
It may not be so much that it's a bad idea; it may just be the successfulness rating of combos/tactics actually connecting during a match. Like for an example, when I play Sentinel, I never go for fast fly combos because for some odd reason, I can never pull them off when I really want to but in the training room, I can do it in my sleep sometimes and little things like that costs me the game. It's not that I can't do it, it's just that I want to take advantage of hurting the opponent while the opportunity is there rather than messing up.

This goes for other things as well such as Magneto resets and infinites. It's almost imperative that a Magneto player does this but my execution of moves are not the greatest so that margin of error that I have always makes me think twice before taking a risk trying stuff like that. But this is just my opinion and why it works for me. If I was as good as the top players pulling off crazy resets and such, I'd do it all day every chance I got.:lol: j/k

De4dEyE
10-31-2003, 09:24 AM
Pretty much, Justin has good defense, adapts well, and plays safe. How can you say other players can' adapt or be patient?

StiltMan
10-31-2003, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by Crono_Mashitoka
He has to be that damn good if he is still the champ three straight years in a row. It may not look like much when you watch him play because he doesn't go for the flashy stuff, only the basics, not to mention he can block his ass off. He has what virtually no other players have when playing this game. Adaptation and patience.

I don't know what you're looking for when you watch him play, but he looks that good when I watch. Why? Because the words "Win 1" keep appearing above his lifebars at the end of tournament games. That, not flash, says that he's good.

TheWanderer
10-31-2003, 04:03 PM
Could someone tell me J-wong strategies on how he uses Team row and team Santhrax?

StiltMan
10-31-2003, 10:59 PM
First off, when Justin uses Storm he uses Storm/Sent/Cyclops, not Santhrax as it were.

And there's enough video of both strategies out there that it's not hard to find. If you want to find out how he plays Mag/Cable/Sent-A, get an Evo 2k3 DVD when it becomes available or watch the Evo 2k2 or MWC6 footage of him against SiN. Add in that he likes to snap out Team Scrub Sentinels with Magneto on his first serious hit now. He also does not like to ever use the team in reverse order as Row himself was known to do when he considered that his main team.

As for Storm/Sent/Clops... well, there's a lot of video out there of that, too, and it's not that much different from when he used to play Storm/Sent/Cammy, he's just updated his AAA philosophy.

Go find the stuff. If you know how to watch video, it'll show you more than we're going to explain here.

Tron Jon
11-01-2003, 12:01 AM
OK, first, I want to say that I'm not anywhere near where Justin Wong is at. Here's my take, though.

I'd say patience is developed by realizing a few things. The first is that you don't actually have to kill someone in one go, and that, even if you do, focusing on killing the person is still less effective than trying to get a single hit, then the combo, then, finally, the kill. The second, that you only need to get the momentum on your side... and coupled with that, you get to realize that you can frustrate your opponent more by breaking his momentum than actually hitting him with a massive combo. The harder he has to try to hit you, the more likely he is to mess up, and give you the opportunity to come back. The final realization is that both the, "oh, shit, I'm losing, and I have to turn the game around", and the "I have a chance! I have a chance!" are equally destructive, if they do not force you to redouble your concentration. Most people play their least conservatively toward the end of a match... But all of my comebacks have been when I redoubled my focus, and played with purpose... and almost all of the comebacks done to me were when I got reckless.

To me, it seems that adaptation comes from three things. Mastery of the characters, experience, and keen observation. If you can see what your opponent is up to, it's far easier to beat them. If you know what your character's capabilities are, and know what does what, how fast, and where it happens and where to go, adaptation becomes easier. And if you make a point to make each loss a learning experience, you'll eventually make less mistakes, leave less openings in your own game, and be able to see and take advantage of your opponent's better.

Just my two cents. I don't always follow my advice as well as I give it, though.

Tron Jon

Mixup
11-01-2003, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Tron Jon
OK, first, I want to say that I'm not anywhere near where Justin Wong is at. Here's my take, though.

I'd say patience is developed by realizing a few things. The first is that you don't actually have to kill someone in one go, and that, even if you do, focusing on killing the person is still less effective than trying to get a single hit, then the combo, then, finally, the kill. The second, that you only need to get the momentum on your side... and coupled with that, you get to realize that you can frustrate your opponent more by breaking his momentum than actually hitting him with a massive combo. The harder he has to try to hit you, the more likely he is to mess up, and give you the opportunity to come back. The final realization is that both the, "oh, shit, I'm losing, and I have to turn the game around", and the "I have a chance! I have a chance!" are equally destructive, if they do not force you to redouble your concentration. Most people play their least conservatively toward the end of a match... But all of my comebacks have been when I redoubled my focus, and played with purpose... and almost all of the comebacks done to me were when I got reckless.

To me, it seems that adaptation comes from three things. Mastery of the characters, experience, and keen observation. If you can see what your opponent is up to, it's far easier to beat them. If you know what your character's capabilities are, and know what does what, how fast, and where it happens and where to go, adaptation becomes easier. And if you make a point to make each loss a learning experience, you'll eventually make less mistakes, leave less openings in your own game, and be able to see and take advantage of your opponent's better.

Just my two cents. I don't always follow my advice as well as I give it, though.

Tron Jon

Nice!

hadoken king
11-01-2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by StiltMan
First off, when Justin uses Storm he uses Storm/Sent/Cyclops, not Santhrax as it were.


last weekend at CF, he was owning the shit out of every1 with santhrax... i don't know if he's going to be using it, but his sent/capcom = ownership of godly levels... he got the semi off every two transitions...

and tron jon... that was insightful dude

white shadow
11-01-2003, 06:03 PM
He can see every frame in slow motion.L:lol:L!!! J/K

I'm an MVC2 freak and after watching his match vids for years I notice a few things:

1. He has no definate style. While Soo plays aggressively and Duc plays defensively Justin Wong just seems to play without any specific mindset just like a blank slate. Which probably makes him able to adapt well. The reason why many says he plays defensively IMO because they are not used to seeing someone block so efficiently which makes them think he's playing all defense. (I counts his block rate and attack rate and it is near 50% in each. Yes I want to be good that badly :lol:)

2. He doesn't seem to play seriously until the last character/match. In almost every match I've watched he always plays really risky and sloppy until he feels it's time to TRY. And when he does "TRY" he owns PERIOD. See: SiN vs Justin and Xecutioner vs Justin.:o

3. Adapts VERY, VERY fast. Being a MVC2 addict ever since it's debut (2000) everytime I've seen a match with J-WO and when his opponents attempts the same thing twice he counters.
See: Sin vs Justin match 5 & 6.

4. Justin has some of the best players has his friends to constantly keep him on his toes, especially Sanford. This allows him to constantly cope with every new possible strat going around in the MVC surroundings.

5. He doesn't overdo things. That's why a lot of casual players (like my friends :rolleyes: ) can't seem to get why he's so good. He does everything necessary to win a match not to look "cool". Personally I find getting near perfects and 200+ wins on people cooler than some Magz infinite/reset.:p Especially when surviving with a one pixel Cable!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Plus just like MJ he just has an innate talent IMK:o.

white shadow
11-01-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Tron Jon
Just my two cents. I don't always follow my advice as well as I give it, though.

Tron Jon

Good stuff. Same with me, it's always when in a match I lose focus of what to see in my opponent.

I'm not the best at doing 1437169 combos like many peeps I've faced but I mostly end up winning because I analyze everything and take advantage of situations. :)

Tron Jon
11-01-2003, 11:28 PM
Thanks for the compliments.

I have *got* to play the guy. He'll wipe the floor with me, but I have to play him. Have to. Because every time I play someone better than me, I get a little better myself. Is there a good time to catch him at CF? And would he be annoyed to be playing against low tier, or a player who's only moderately good (vs. elite / on his level)?

I was gonna say that from what I saw, he didn't play with a specific style or strategy... he just played fluidly. It might not seem like a big deal... but it is a massive, massive advantage. I'd love to play him.

Tron Jon

projektx-
11-02-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by white shadow
He can see every frame in slow motion.L:lol:L!!! J/K

I'm an MVC2 freak and after watching his match vids for years I notice a few things:

1. He has no definate style. While Soo plays aggressively and Duc plays defensively Justin Wong just seems to play without any specific mindset just like a blank slate. Which probably makes him able to adapt well. The reason why many says he plays defensively IMO because they are not used to seeing someone block so efficiently which makes them think he's playing all defense. (I counts his block rate and attack rate and it is near 50% in each. Yes I want to be good that badly :lol:)

2. He doesn't seem to play seriously until the last character/match. In almost every match I've watched he always plays really risky and sloppy until he feels it's time to TRY. And when he does "TRY" he owns PERIOD. See: SiN vs Justin and Xecutioner vs Justin.:o

3. Adapts VERY, VERY fast. Being a MVC2 addict ever since it's debut (2000) everytime I've seen a match with J-WO and when his opponents attempts the same thing twice he counters.
See: Sin vs Justin match 5 & 6.

4. Justin has some of the best players has his friends to constantly keep him on his toes, especially Sanford. This allows him to constantly cope with every new possible strat going around in the MVC surroundings.

5. He doesn't overdo things. That's why a lot of casual players (like my friends :rolleyes: ) can't seem to get why he's so good. He does everything necessary to win a match not to look "cool". Personally I find getting near perfects and 200+ wins on people cooler than some Magz infinite/reset.:p Especially when surviving with a one pixel Cable!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Plus just like MJ he just has an innate talent IMK:o.

I know im new to the community and i just recently got back into play MvC2 again, but i've been a great fan since the beginning, i've seen a couple of videos that was here, at shoryuken.com and other few sites. i also saw a few clips of the 'infamous' justin wong. i'd admit that this game has definitely turned into a great community and im glad that i can somehow join it. as for justin (even though i'm not that good at the game yet.) i can see that white has definitely pointed out some points that justin definitely adjusts to how people play. he certainly is confident, patient and definitely has the skill.

***ps. im wondering if i can get some links for the tournament video clips that people talk about ex: white shadow said See: SiN vs Justin and Xecutioner vs Justin.:o


**PSS. HELLO MGA FELLO PINOY'S!! magandang marinig na maraming mga mvc2 fans back sa PI!.***

Crono_Mashitoka
11-02-2003, 10:47 AM
Check www.forgo.net. I believe they still have those videos of Justin there. And for some odd reason, he seems to be the only one I know of that can get quite a few number of OCC's. He's done it numerous times, but the best one was at Texas Showdown with Cable.

You can see his OCC at Forgo.net from SIN vs. J-Wo Final Match.


OCC = One Character Comeback by the way

OCC's >>> OCV'S:o

PWNED!!

white shadow
11-02-2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Crono_Mashitoka
Check www.forgo.net. I believe they still have those videos of Justin there. And for some odd reason, he seems to be the only one I know of that can get quite a few number of OCC's. He's done it numerous times, but the best one was at Texas Showdown with Cable.

You can see his OCC at Forgo.net from SIN vs. J-Wo Final Match.


OCC = One Character Comeback by the way

OCC's >>> OCV'S:o

PWNED!!

2. He doesn't seem to play seriously until the last character/match. In almost every match I've watched he always plays really risky and sloppy until he feels it's time to TRY. And when he does "TRY" he owns PERIOD. See: SiN vs Justin and Xecutioner vs Justin

:evil: :evil: :evil:

Even in the Justin vs Valle matches also.:o

Holy Knight
11-02-2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Tron Jon
OK, first, I want to say that I'm not anywhere near where Justin Wong is at. Here's my take, though.

I'd say patience is developed by realizing a few things. The first is that you don't actually have to kill someone in one go, and that, even if you do, focusing on killing the person is still less effective than trying to get a single hit, then the combo, then, finally, the kill. The second, that you only need to get the momentum on your side... and coupled with that, you get to realize that you can frustrate your opponent more by breaking his momentum than actually hitting him with a massive combo. The harder he has to try to hit you, the more likely he is to mess up, and give you the opportunity to come back. The final realization is that both the, "oh, shit, I'm losing, and I have to turn the game around", and the "I have a chance! I have a chance!" are equally destructive, if they do not force you to redouble your concentration. Most people play their least conservatively toward the end of a match... But all of my comebacks have been when I redoubled my focus, and played with purpose... and almost all of the comebacks done to me were when I got reckless.

To me, it seems that adaptation comes from three things. Mastery of the characters, experience, and keen observation. If you can see what your opponent is up to, it's far easier to beat them. If you know what your character's capabilities are, and know what does what, how fast, and where it happens and where to go, adaptation becomes easier. And if you make a point to make each loss a learning experience, you'll eventually make less mistakes, leave less openings in your own game, and be able to see and take advantage of your opponent's better.

Just my two cents. I don't always follow my advice as well as I give it, though.

Tron Jon

Tron Jon is a realist!

I8-
11-02-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Tron Jon
Thanks for the compliments.

I have *got* to play the guy. He'll wipe the floor with me, but I have to play him. Have to. Because every time I play someone better than me, I get a little better myself. Is there a good time to catch him at CF? And would he be annoyed to be playing against low tier, or a player who's only moderately good (vs. elite / on his level)?

I was gonna say that from what I saw, he didn't play with a specific style or strategy... he just played fluidly. It might not seem like a big deal... but it is a massive, massive advantage. I'd love to play him.

Tron Jon

Go Fridays or Saturdays from 9+ on. I've seen X and some other players there. Always playing at the good machine right next to CvS2. Thats when everyone shows up usually.

I dont know if u played low tier. A lot of players there use megaman with black heart. Dunno always having fights about who the best megaman player is.... Anyways GL in playing him. I'll be comin there this friday coming up.

The Fireboy
12-01-2003, 06:19 AM
Honestly, after I saw the Soo vs J.wong match, I started to think he began to slip in his ability, I mean..after being on top for so long, you'd think you'd put your guard down a bit, but it's certainly been proven he's a God like player in MvC2, no one stays champ for that long if they have no skill, but in any case, I'm not too sure if his reign will last too much longer, but hey, never really know, he might ride this thing out until MvC2 leaves the tournament scene and something new, and better comes out.

StiltMan
12-01-2003, 11:31 AM
Well, in all brutal honesty, I think Justin lost that game that badly because (a) Soo just caught him off guard, and (b) the game didn't really mean much in the end. A good MSP can do that to basically anybody if the game gets out of hand, sure, but in the end it's still not a very robust team and it can be exploited as such.

If the match had been a series that mattered in a real tournament instead of a relatively meaningless exhibitiong in the context of a 5on5, the smart money's still on Justin.

hadoken king
12-01-2003, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by StiltMan
Well, in all brutal honesty, I think Justin lost that game that badly because (a) Soo just caught him off guard, and (b) the game didn't really mean much in the end. A good MSP can do that to basically anybody if the game gets out of hand, sure, but in the end it's still not a very robust team and it can be exploited as such.

If the match had been a series that mattered in a real tournament instead of a relatively meaningless exhibitiong in the context of a 5on5, the smart money's still on Justin.

i thought of that fight on the lines of wong being on east coast time... it was like?? 9/10??? that's 12 or 1 am for NY time... that's a big difference. the only reason why i say that, is not to make an excuse, but the shit that soo was doing would normally be blocked by wong... he blocks everything

Earthcrosser
12-04-2003, 05:52 PM
Several things make Justin all that he is.

First, like everyone is saying, he is a flexible player and can adapt to what he's up against very quickly. He can shift from one style to another depending on what he has to work with and against.

Second, he knows the game very well and he knows just what each character can and cannot do. For example, I'll bet that 90% of the "top" players who use him have no idea how to actually play Captain Commando other than his assist and the single Ground Spark/Captain Sword combo. Justin, on the other hand, can probably use him proficiently. He knows what to look out for because he's familiar with everything.

Third, fear factor. Hah hah, yes. He's incredible and everyone knows it. When you play him, in the back of your mind you're thinking that. What a rush, huh? Game over, man.

There are probably other aspects to him. He's got the talent, reflexes, and creativity to be at the top.

white shadow
12-04-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by StiltMan
Well, in all brutal honesty, I think Justin lost that game that badly because (a) Soo just caught him off guard, and (b) the game didn't really mean much in the end. A good MSP can do that to basically anybody if the game gets out of hand, sure, but in the end it's still not a very robust team and it can be exploited as such.

If the match had been a series that mattered in a real tournament instead of a relatively meaningless exhibitiong in the context of a 5on5, the smart money's still on Justin.

Agreed. he really seemed too relaxed in that match, Soo still beat him fair and square so you can't ignore that. :o Plus he won EVO, and on TEK.com he said he didn't even practice!!! :eek: :lol:

JALbert
12-05-2003, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by Earthcrosser
*slurp slurp*

Any particular reason to revive an old thread to start sucking on Justin's dick? :rolleyes:

Earthcrosser
12-05-2003, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by JALbert


Any particular reason to revive an old thread to start sucking on Justin's dick? :rolleyes:

What do you mean by old? I clicked on the General Strategy thing, saw this near the top, read it, and added my 2 cents.

If you want to start a flame war, bring it.:lol:

I8-
12-05-2003, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by white shadow


Agreed. he really seemed too relaxed in that match, Soo still beat him fair and square so you can't ignore that. :o Plus he won EVO, and on TEK.com he said he didn't even practice!!! :eek: :lol:

No seriously he doesnt even own a copy of MvC2....

white shadow
12-06-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by I8-


No seriously he doesnt even own a copy of MvC2....

Well that makes sense, seeing how he goes to arcades.:p

Shin-RoTeNdO
12-14-2003, 03:00 PM
Justin is good because he is Marvel! At the last Charlotte, NC tourney, Queen City Championships 2003, I interviewed him at the end of the tourney. He doesn't own Marvel with as much money he makes from winning tourneys. He goes to college and plays when he gets the chance. He only plays cuz there is money involved and like he says, "Times are rough, nigga gotta eat, nigga gotta win those tourneys". Lol, funny guy. I've played him before and have watched him play at tourneys and my god can he adapt to ANY team! He used Marrow, Guile, and Tron Bone for his first team at the tourney and fucking owned the poor guys with Marrow alone, and he was using Cable/Sent/IM !! The crowd as like WTF, cuz of all the shit he was doing with Marrow.
Justin can play with everyone quite effeciently may I add, which makes him who he is. Yup, I have it on tape too.

Is he beatable, of course he is. I've seen him lose maybe about 3 games or 4 altogether since I've seen him play, but they were in casual play and he was fucking around with weird ass teams.

Just ike some people are natural atheletes, Justin is a natural at fighters. Don't forget that there are other players just as good as Justin, but because they are not 'champs' they don't get enough recognition.

Just my .02¢

TNPR
12-14-2003, 04:21 PM
yes i know him for a long time not in person but i talk to him on aim sometimes when hes logged on and yes fyi i understand the guy completely and i get it now how he adapts really fast like me with top players and also he doesnt have time to practice maybe at his friends house cause he aint got no dc also hes used to playing with anyone so if ya challenge him ull own him for the 1st time but at the 2nd u r toast

white shadow
12-15-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by RoTeNdO
Justin is good because he is Marvel! At the last Charlotte, NC tourney, Queen City Championships 2003, I interviewed him at the end of the tourney. He doesn't own Marvel with as much money he makes from winning tourneys. He goes to college and plays when he gets the chance. He only plays cuz there is money involved and like he says, "Times are rough, nigga gotta eat, nigga gotta win those tourneys". Lol, funny guy. I've played him before and have watched him play at tourneys and my god can he adapt to ANY team! He used Marrow, Guile, and Tron Bone for his first team at the tourney and fucking owned the poor guys with Marrow alone, and he was using Cable/Sent/IM !! The crowd as like WTF, cuz of all the shit he was doing with Marrow.
Justin can play with everyone quite effeciently may I add, which makes him who he is. Yup, I have it on tape too.

Is he beatable, of course he is. I've seen him lose maybe about 3 games or 4 altogether since I've seen him play, but they were in casual play and he was fucking around with weird ass teams.

Just ike some people are natural atheletes, Justin is a natural at fighters. Don't forget that there are other players just as good as Justin, but because they are not 'champs' they don't get enough recognition.

Just my .02¢

And you didn't ask for Sakura help from him?!!!:eek: :lol:

Neways if there was someone who was a true rival to JW and not just an ocassional winner they would've gotten the same recognition already.

Every player had their day:


-Duc was a hopefull to beat Wong

-Valle was.

-White Knight too.

-So was Rowtron

- And finally Soo.

Even though it's highly probably that JW will finally be defeated, there is also a chance he might end up a retired champ, like Micheal Jordan. (even though many of his records are now beaten. :p)

Mixup
12-15-2003, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by white shadow


And you didn't ask for Sakura help from him?!!!:eek: :lol:

Neways if there was someone who was a true rival to JW and not just an ocassional winner they would've gotten the same recognition already.

Every player had their day:


-Duc was a hopefull to beat Wong

-Valle was.

-White Knight too.

-So was Rowtron

- And finally Soo.

Even though it's highly probably that JW will finally be defeated, there is also a chance he might end up a retired champ, like Micheal Jordan. (even though many of his records are now beaten. :p)

Some people are finally now copying/breaking down how he plays, developing their own ways to read patterns and rush down(safely) and defend until you can attack. One might even be able to beat justin if they got good enough at that cheap style.

Just an idea ^^

Juggy
12-20-2003, 04:38 PM
He doesn't tend to get "owned the first time"... =|

white shadow
12-21-2003, 10:54 AM
Yes, but he adapts to how a person plays so well he comes back, sometimes even destroying them after the intial match.

Mixup, I agree that he might fall, especially with the higher level of regular players have reached. The thing is Justin doesn't seem to have a direct style like most players (such as yourself ;) ) have. He uses the characters he plays very starightforward; all he really does is play smarter and safer. He also doesn't do flashy stuff that can cost you the game, like I always see Sanford, Viscant (with that AD U/F Lk, MK, LA xx LS :lol: ) and Soo do regularly.

Now if he started to play keepaway Magz or something to that affect then....:p

Mixup
12-21-2003, 11:24 AM
If somone else would learn the whole damn game, they might stand a chance:lol:

I8-
12-21-2003, 11:26 AM
Justin is random, you can never read things, unless you have seen it more then once while playing him. I really dont think that justin will be defeated, not yet. The game is getting old and I dont think a rising fighter will come out of no where. We have basically seen everyone, from Apoc to Valle. People are moving on and it seems that capcom doesnt care. If only a new game came out, then it would draw attention to the games.

white shadow
12-21-2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Mixup
If somone else would learn the whole damn game, they might stand a chance:lol:

Hey what's stopping YOU?!!!:mad: :lol: J/K

I've tried all 56 characters, most of their assists, so basically I've tried to do new things but it can't change the fact that I lack the skills to reach to your level. Maybe against the average tourney player but never the top players.


:p

Mixup
12-21-2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by white shadow


Hey what's stopping YOU?!!!:mad: :lol: J/K

I've tried all 56 characters, most of their assists, so basically I've tried to do new things but it can't change the fact that I lack the skills to reach to your level. Maybe against the average tourney player but never the top players.


:p

It's been a work in progress:p

white shadow
12-21-2003, 07:00 PM
BTW Mixup, have you been to that weekly GGX/MVC2 tourney every Sunday hosted by Heidern98 in Coral Springs?:bluu: I wish I could go there but my parents don't trust something hosted by a kid at his parents home.:rolleyes: This is coming from a 17 year old, how sad.:(

Lastly, I've been trying the Sent unblockable but the computer seems to be immune to it, or maybe I'm doing it wrong. I need comp BAAAAD!!!:mad:

Mixup
12-21-2003, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by white shadow
BTW Mixup, have you been to that weekly GGX/MVC2 tourney every Sunday hosted by Heidern98 in Coral Springs?:bluu: I wish I could go there but my parents don't trust something hosted by a kid at his parents home.:rolleyes: This is coming from a 17 year old, how sad.:(

Lastly, I've been trying the Sent unblockable but the computer seems to be immune to it, or maybe I'm doing it wrong. I need comp BAAAAD!!!:mad:

yeah computer blocks that shit.

and, nah i've never made it out to one of those tourneys.

jeff was always cool as you could get tho...

white shadow
12-21-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Mixup


yeah computer blocks that shit.

and, nah i've never made it out to one of those tourneys.

jeff was always cool as you could get tho...

I guess I have to go to Boomers for some comp.:o Universal Studios: Islands of Adventure has mad good comp in the evenings. :lol:

scrub_4_life
12-25-2003, 12:31 PM
hmm i really dont think justin is unbeatable he is the top player no doubt about it, but i really jus thinks he does wht every good marvel player does which is

1.have patience
2.captilize on mistakes
3.block like god

i noticed when i watch his vids n seen him play at da charlotte nc tourny he waits,runs blocks like hell, den captilizes on a mistake made(ex. at evo 2002 in da finals against rowtron ,rowtron was winnin but he switch out to sentinal tht was his mistake n justin captilized on it), everyone he plays prob grows impatient wit da turtle game n jus fcukz up another he does is limit ur options, he'llmake u do things den jus counters it, all in all he knows every strategy in da game n how to counter it

too FCUKIN g00d

ArC_man
01-09-2004, 10:15 PM
I wonder who he practices with....

I8-
01-10-2004, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by ArC_man
I wonder who he practices with....


:lol: :lol: :lol: