This Character SUX [Archive]

CptMunta

12-06-2003, 09:41 PM

So...

Then how can you kick ass with him.

He can't of been an after thought of Capcom to put him in the game could he? Random bet from the staff maybe?

How many SNK players begged him to be in this Capcom Vs SNK?

I can't imagine him being there by popular demand.

Can anyone supply some combos or some decent or even cheap tricks on how to use him.

I'll take my harsh opinion (Not Judgement) back if someone can show me some cool shit with him.

Honestly I am riveted.

Gunter

12-06-2003, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by CptMunta
So...

Then how can you kick ass with him.

He can't of been an after thought of Capcom to put him in the game could he? Random bet from the staff maybe?

How many SNK players begged him to be in this Capcom Vs SNK?

I can't imagine him being there by popular demand.

Can anyone supply some combos or some decent or even cheap tricks on how to use him.

I'll take my harsh opinion (Not Judgement) back if someone can show me some cool shit with him.

Honestly I am riveted.

His B&B CC does 10,000 damage. B&B as in easy as shit, and GUARANTEED because it's off an RC Grab (i.e. you grab, you activate, they lose 10K if it's corner to corner... around 9K otherwise) - grab, activate, (fierce, c.fierce)x3, (fierce-jab wave)xN, super. He has a killer corner lockdown, esp. against P and K, with Jab wave combos. He has corpse hopping capabilities that can easily be set up with RC Grab, sweep... 50-50 shit with grab, c.jab grab/sweep... He has a lot of stuff. See vids of tragic or Aojiru Guile if you can. You are just extremely ignorant in the matter. He is VERY good in A.

CptMunta

12-07-2003, 03:08 AM

[QUOTE][i] You are just extremely ignorant in the matter.]

I know I'm ignorant in this matter, so ignorant that I really did believe that noone would reply to this thread.

The main reason for it was to see if anyone used him. And how to. So cheers for the comments.

I'll look for thoughs vids. Hope I didn't offend any Todo players.You are just extremely ignorant in the matter. He is VERY good in A.

vasAZNion13

12-07-2003, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by CptMunta
[QUOTE][i] You are just extremely ignorant in the matter.]

I know I'm ignorant in this matter, so ignorant that I really did believe that noone would reply to this thread.

true

Originally posted by CptMunta
[B]The main reason for it was to see if anyone used him. And how to. So cheers for the comments.

should have looked up older threads

Originally posted by CptMunta

I'll look for thoughs vids. Hope I didn't offend any Todo players.You are just extremely ignorant in the matter. He is VERY good in A.

funny...that looked like you just called gunter ignorant:confused:

anyways..
i don't play todo, but i know he's good in C groove as well
he can be good in P groove, but there are other character who are more worth using, but it doesn't mean todo sucks in P groove.
as for S,N, and K...i'm not sure

CptMunta

12-08-2003, 06:45 PM

I'll look for thoughs vids. Hope I didn't offend any Todo B]You are just extremely ignorant in the matter. He is VERY good in A.

I'll look for thoughs vids. Hope I didn't offend any Todo players.[B]You are just extremely ignorant in the matter. He is VERY good in A.

That came together in combonation by accident, my bad.

It'll be cool if I can get good with him. Thanks to my random comments.

gbursine

12-09-2003, 09:57 AM

I know he definitley holds his own in S groove.....fuking todo in desperation mode is cheep shit.... lol

Cammyworshipper

12-23-2003, 12:01 PM

Todo exsists just to balance out the goodcharacters and the bad.
The same could be said for Guile, and Dhalsim, and Hibiki.

Gunter

12-23-2003, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by Cammyworshipper
Todo exsists just to balance out the goodcharacters and the bad.
The same could be said for Guile, and Dhalsim, and Hibiki.

If you mean, Todo, Guile, and Hibiki were made so incredibly powerful to balance out characters that suck... like KYOSUKE, then yeah.

But then, Kyosuke is the only really useless character in the game.

Cammyworshipper

12-23-2003, 03:39 PM

Kyosuke's good.
Well, compared to the loads of crap I listed.

Gunter

12-23-2003, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by Cammyworshipper
Kyosuke's good.
Well, compared to the loads of crap I listed.

Respected players that use Todo: tragic, Aojiru Guile
Respected players that use Guile: Umehara, Choi, Aojiru Guile
Respected players that use Dhalsim: Cole, Iyo

All of the above players have won or placed top 2 in major/competitive tournaments in Japan and the US. And you say Kyosuke is better than these characters that you call "loads of crap."

What exactly is your authority on the subject again?

epsilon_

12-23-2003, 06:29 PM

C Guile easily the 6th or 7th best Character in the game.

Cammyworshipper

12-24-2003, 10:34 AM

I didnt say a player of great skill couldn't be good with them.
I said that they suck due to the crappiness of most of their moves.
Dhalsim's three specials are freakin' retarded.
Guile's just pathetic.
And Hibiki's specials are impossible to do. Hence they suck.

epsilon_

12-24-2003, 10:51 AM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Dude you know NOTHING, can't do Hibiki's specials, Guile is horrible, LMAO:lol: :lol:

Jose 2.0

12-25-2003, 12:40 AM

i swear, ppl are getting stupider the older this game is. U'd think by now u could pull off an easy ass super combo or a simple comand. Seriously u should just stop this game now, cus u can probibly only do dwn Fierce supre with Sagat, run away with roundhouse with cammy, and throw electricity with blanka, u damn scrub

Burghy

12-25-2003, 06:32 PM

Hi Cammyworshipper. Can you change your name so it doesn't have 'Cammy' in it? This is a major embarrassment to Cammy players everywhere. Thanks.

Admiral Akbar

12-25-2003, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Cammyworshipper
I didnt say a player of great skill couldn't be good with them.
I said that they suck due to the crappiness of most of their moves.
Dhalsim's three specials are freakin' retarded.
Guile's just pathetic.
And Hibiki's specials are impossible to do. Hence they suck.

No... YOU suck. Guile is one of the best characters in the game. He's got tons of anti air options, his supers are great, and well, theres too much to mention. Check out some Guile vids, and you'll be amazed.

Hibiki is an EXCELLENT A-groove character. Her CCs have good resets and she can do good damage.Two of her supers can be comboed off of a counter. The motions are simple, you must just be really terrible.

Hm, I didnt mean to come off of that mean... oh wait... i guess I kinda did. Oh well. JUst please think before you open your mouth... wench.

Dhalsims kinda low down on the tier list, but still, just by stating Guile and Hibiki, you're pretty ignorant. However, Iyo uses Dhalsim with frightening skill.

vasAZNion13

12-25-2003, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by Cammyworshipper
Kyosuke's good.
Well, compared to the loads of crap I listed.

dhalsim, guile, and hibiki are all better than kyosuke...

i hope you were sarcastic...cuz everything you said seems to be the opposite of what everyone thinks...

hibiki's super are easy to do, just a simple pattern that you can take 10 minutes to memorize...
guile doesn't need more moves than he has because he has a shit load of normals that are a pain already to get around...
dhalsim has three moves....oh no...that makes him retarded...i guess that makes ryu retarded too....RETARD...

btw...merry christmas and happy new years...

taesty

12-28-2003, 12:55 AM

Funny thread...

I'm bored so I'm just here to reinforce what pretty much everyone has already said..

First.. Todo is good AND more importantly, he's hella fun to use in A-groove... As Gunter stated, his RC command grab is very good/useful.

And uh... Guile being horrible... hmm... Obviously you haven't heard of this dude named DAIGO who obviously sucks with Guile... how about in the States... obviously dont know Choi either...

Hibiki now... have you ever played a good, or even decent, hibiki? It's hard to get in on her if played right... Maybe you should play this guy named buktooth and test it out..

Dhalsim.. only one who jumps to my mind is Iyo... look for the vids...

Kyosuke... I dare you to look for the vids...

CptMunta

12-28-2003, 05:37 AM

Crazy,

I never knew this thread would be this popular. Cool.

I've used this guy alot more now with the advice metioned and he is pretty good in S and A grooves. His CC's are especially fun. He won't ever be a favorite but he can hold his own.

So you were all right I was wrong and I'm glad I started this thread.

Dhalsim is great! I really dig him. I've been using him since Champion edition. As for the good ol' rival School Character. I'm a big Rival Schools fan and it's a pity he ain't as cool in this game. His aircombos are fun and I dig his air super cancelling in C groove. But Capcom school have beefed him up IMO.

DeAdSpAcE

12-28-2003, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by Cammyworshipper

Dhalsim's three specials are freakin' retarded.
Guile's just pathetic.
And Hibiki's specials are impossible to do. Hence they suck.

When was the last time someone called you a dumbass? If you think characters suck cuz of "hard to do techniques" then you might as well say the same for a3's V-Akuma, V-Sakura, V-Karin, etc. Might as well say the same for cvs2 custom combo characters. Might as well say the same for all the characters cause their best shit don't come that easy to win. Case in point you are a scrub who should give up playing, period.

By the way Gunter what is corpse hopping?? Never heard that term being used.

Gwai Lo ½

12-28-2003, 12:49 PM

??? 'corpse hoppin' has been used forever... Think terry ;)

epsilon_

12-28-2003, 01:14 PM

Corpse hopping is when you do a dash or somehting after youve knocked somone down close, thus going over them and mixing them up a bit.

DeAdSpAcE

12-28-2003, 02:24 PM

People around here call it cross up dash. Didn't know. ::shrugs::

Hellion

01-25-2004, 05:36 PM

Anyone here use Todo in S?
I agree that his desperation mode is good stuff, and I've watch my brother do his CC and it's damage was impressive for its simplicity...

If anyone knows where I can go for more insight I'd be much obliged, I really don't have the money to throw away learning him in the arcades right now, thanks

caliagent#3

01-25-2004, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by Hellion
Anyone here use Todo in S?
I agree that his desperation mode is good stuff, and I've watch my brother do his CC and it's damage was impressive for its simplicity...

If anyone knows where I can go for more insight I'd be much obliged, I really don't have the money to throw away learning him in the arcades right now, thanks

www.namonaki.com, Gunters site (BTW good job on the new design Gunter).

rsigley

01-31-2004, 05:59 AM

i play k todo here's what i do

poke a lot build meter then when i have level 3 super i run at them from full screen away command grab level 3 super everyone falls for it

Jinjifra

02-04-2004, 07:10 PM

"Dhalsim's three specials are freakin' retarded"

Ummm... last time I checked Dhalsim has 4 specials or are we not counting the teleport or something like that? Cause you might just want to take a look at the comand list before you make obviously wrong claims.

CoolWater

02-27-2004, 03:51 PM

Asside from being a snazzy dresser, Kyosuke is trash gameplay wise. When you try to put down Guile, Todo and Hibiki, however, the validity of your knowlede comes into question.

Todo is one of those odd characters that are good in essentially any groove he is in. Rather than obtaining some sort of terrible weakness as a result of groove features, he just gainst new battle tactics.

In Say he is best in A and N grooves, hwoever, because essentially all of his tools become available. He has a great and useful command grab that can either be exploited through over-body hops or in a run in roll cancels.

epsilon_

02-29-2004, 07:50 AM

I don't like S Todo because Sagat's s.lk OWNS him, even his dodge moves, and he can't do anything till he's almost dead.

DooM

02-29-2004, 08:41 AM

i dont like having todo against a p-groove... with his wave if u press forward once u get to parry his entire wave.... thats fucked up

Jose 2.0

03-16-2004, 09:33 PM

Todo is upper mid teir, guile the same and same with Hibiki, Dalsim is lower but ppl can use him well.

Dalsim has good C groove cancels, does 8- 9k.

all i say is dont get these fuckin morons get to u.

Shin Ace

03-17-2004, 07:44 AM

RC command grab, nuff said.

Crinos

03-20-2004, 12:27 PM

For the same exact reason Eagle was added: Capcom wanted to dredge up some real obscure characters from the original SNK and capcom games (where you could only play as one guy except in the vs. mode.)

Up until this game came out Nyuhaku had never been a playable character. (hell, after the original AOF he never even appeared in a fighting game except as a piece of background scenery, and eagle didnt even get that much.)

Personally, I think they should have used mr. big or wang (that guy in the monkey mask, not enough masked fighters in these games.) But thats my opinion.