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Subliminal UK
01-15-2004, 03:45 PM
This is the thread to leave your alpha 3 vs. replays. I'll get the ball rolling by leaving a few that i recorded tonight. I'm hoping more of you will record some 2 player sessions.

I'm player 1 in all the replays, i tried to split them up into 6 or 7 smaller files. Think this is the way forward. Btw i've not watched these yet and i'm open to criticism on any of my characters.

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think i'm cody in these:

Subliminal UK
01-15-2004, 03:52 PM
lol voted on my poll wrong i meant ok. here's part 2.

I'm charlie and dhalsim in these 2.

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Subliminal UK
01-15-2004, 04:09 PM
part 3

Zangief and gen i think.

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Subliminal UK
01-15-2004, 04:28 PM
part 4:

i'll edit in who it is in a bit,

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Muskau
01-15-2004, 09:14 PM
Are these games played over kalierra?

SaBrE
01-15-2004, 09:46 PM
you cant record online matches with kawaks. only mame

Mantis2K
01-16-2004, 06:25 AM
Here's some replays of me playing online. My screen name is "Vega V-ism" :)

You might need to get an older version of Mame from early last year, or something... Just check the date of the files..

Download Vega V-ism Vs. Sub (Mame)... (http://www.rarekungfumovies.com/new/VegaV-ismVSSub.zip)
This one is fairly recent - about 5 months ago when I was playing at my best against Sub. I think I lose at first, but get better towards the end, but Sub has always had an edge against me. Now he destroys me because I'm out of practise, and I use a shitty pad on win2000... I wish I could still play atleast this good! :p

Download Vega V-ism Vs. VYong (Mame)... (http://www.rarekungfumovies.com/new/vegaVyong.zip) Erm... This was very ambitious of me!! I was very bored so I played somebody in the USA, with a 100 ping!!! And I even won some matches!! :lol:

Download Vega V-ism Vs. CEM (Mame)... (http://www.rarekungfumovies.com/new/VegaVismVsCEM.zip)
CEM, the notorious cheater, has always been better than me, but in this encounter I think I beat him a few times!! WOW!!! Undefeated CEM beaten by me for once! haha

Download Vega V-ism Vs. Psi (Final Burn Alpha)... (http://www.rarekungfumovies.com/new/Vega V-ism Vs. Psi.zip)This was a long long time ago!!! I played so crap (just try and compare my style with the matches above and you will see!). But no excuses... Psi is the best online player in the history of SFA3 Kaillera! I think we played for about 3 hours in this replay (I've never got to the end of it before), but at the time I remember only wining about 3 matches in those 3 hours. Actually, don't even bother watching this one... :bluu:

INSTRUCTIONS
1) Download and install Mame32 0.59 or 0.6 with Kaillera support. (2.8Mb).
2) Download Street Fighter Alpha 3 USA roms (sfa3.zip) (23.2Mb).

Playback Input
1) Download any of the zip files and unzip to c:\program files\mame32\inp (about 15K each!).
2) Run Mame32 and select File Menu => Playback Kaillera Input...
3) Open sfa3_xx.inp and wait for game to load.

Final Burn Alpha is more simple...

Subliminal UK
01-16-2004, 06:39 AM
haha cool, thanks for posting.

I'm off to see what i was doing in that replay. btw mantis, get yourself signed up :)

http://www.ullysis.com/

looks like Ino, Izu, and and Kiyo wil be attending. And there's alpha 3 too. I'm hoping, assuming Ino will enter A3, I'm going to infinite his ass. (hmm)

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Subliminal UK
01-16-2004, 04:34 PM
this is me vs cpu on expert, i think it's worth watching just for the ending. and mantis wanted to see me fight chun and akuma and this replay has both. anyways it only small.

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Cervan
01-17-2004, 09:21 AM
Just wanted to say thanks for the replays. I couldn't find any new match videos anywhere and these are the next best thing.

Ni@k_N!aK
01-17-2004, 03:51 PM
Could anyone post replays for Sodom Or Sagat (Mame rep plz) ?
Thx in advance

psycore
01-17-2004, 11:45 PM
Well, this is a rec of me using V-Dhalsim Vs Expert CPU (expert my balls..). So, hop u all enjoy it, and comment it.... bye

PD: Great struff SubUk.... just seeing part 3 right now

Buttermaker
01-18-2004, 03:36 AM
Thanks for the replays guys. Keep 'em coming.

Originally posted by psycore
Well, this is a rec of me using V-Dhalsim Vs Expert CPU
Nice replay but it stops after your fight against Rose.

(expert my balls..)
If you want something a little more challenging try survival mode.

psycore
01-18-2004, 05:52 AM
If you want something a little more challenging try survival mode.
i have tried already... its the same but longer, and the cpu characters have the same handicap that Bison..... anyway, thx 4 the advice...

Nice replay but it stops after your fight against Rose.

Is just that i got bored... so i stopped playing..... if u wanna se a longer rec, just say it...... Bye.

BTW: I have tried to play online with Mame32 0.67... and it sucks, too much lag (alot more than kawaks), and the recs werent syncronized (dunno how to write this)...

Muskau
01-18-2004, 06:22 AM
I just made a quick Final Burn Alpha replay with A-Cody, for some reason Kawaks doesnt like any of my XP controller drivers... :bluu:

Oh yeah I usually have the difficulty set to Hard 4 or Hard 5, for some reason the computer seems a bit more tricky than expert. I find Expert does more damage but seems to be easy to predict with its all out aggressiveness.

Nice replays everyone, wish I could be bothered to learn the V-ism combos, but theres so little comp theres almost no reason to.

Muskau
01-18-2004, 06:41 AM
Here's the file

Buttermaker
01-18-2004, 11:38 AM
Is just that i got bored... so i stopped playing..... if u wanna se a longer rec, just say it...... Bye.
If it doesn't bore you too much I'd like to see more. Maybe with a different character.

BTW: I have tried to play online with Mame32 0.67... and it sucks, too much lag (alot more than kawaks), and the recs werent syncronized (dunno how to write this)...
There should be a .trc file which MAME will use to sync the playback when you select "playback kaillera input".

I just made a quick Final Burn Alpha replay with A-Cody
Thanks for the replay. This works with Final Burn Alpha v0.2.94. I had to try a few different versions before I found one that worked.

I'd especially like to see replays with characters that you don't see often in match videos.

Anybody good with Guy?

Muskau
01-18-2004, 11:55 AM
Different replays work only with certain versions? Thats sucks

Muskau
01-18-2004, 12:02 PM
Oh here's another Final Burn Alpha replay I did with A-Honda, I posted it in my Honda thread but I doubt anyone will check it out so I'll post it here to see if anyone can tell me if I can improve my Honda game.

bushin187
01-18-2004, 12:19 PM
Here is me doing survival mode with ryu about 4-5 months ago. Final Burn Alpha v0.2.94

Subliminal UK
01-18-2004, 02:05 PM
yeah psycore i was hoping for more. I'm learning sim and it's always nice to see how people play. Kind oflike being in the arcade and scoping the competition. Good VCs with Dhalsim. maybe you'll post some more ^^

Muskau, you've improved a lot since the last replay that i saw of yours. it's obvious you've been putting some time in and learning the priorities. I've got some advice for you if you want it. You should learn crouch cancels. In your replay you win a lot of air-to-air counters, you can gain free hits after. Just hold down as you jump so you're landing into the crouch animation and cancel your landing into another jump. A 2nd j.fierce will carry on with the counter hit damage and carry the juggle potential on, so useful if you're near the corner too.

i spent hours in the arcade today, just working on cody's unflippable infinitie set-up and his jab, jab, short, forward ruffian kick. think i've got it down better. I also believe my stick might be dying, because i'm missing the occasional whiff tornado in my VC and i've got that down. might be me being stoned.

anyhoo, here's another me vs cpu with my new improved cody. think it shows some good stuff.

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psycore
01-18-2004, 05:22 PM
hi people, all the recs were v.good & fun (some were just fun :P).
But i couldnt see the ones of Musaku cause i dont have that version.... guess ill find it later.... anyway, i cant help u cause i dont know how to play with the fat guy. Hi´s too much 4 me to learn (learning V-dhalsim is enough XD), but i know he is dealy i hand of a master (duh!). Btw, SubUK, ur Coky if F%$"ing cool. Now i know that i had underestimated the power of the Dodge :D... Btw again: who was the guy that used Rose in ur first recs.?
Well, thats all 4 know, ill be posting something later..... keep on posting good recs people! Bye

psycore
01-18-2004, 09:02 PM
SubUK, u improved BUT that Vc is still a problem.... check out this link: http://www.kofchile.cl/ipb/index.php?showtopic=547&st=0
There is a Rec with the exact timing for the infinite, and with full explanation of it.

And, here is my crapy crapity A-Guy. I dont know how is suposed to be played, so, i went full attack right into the corner for big nasty combo or guard crush. Well, hope u like it... bye

Subliminal UK
01-19-2004, 01:42 AM
hey thanks for the link, i appreciate you trying to help. unfortunately i wouldn't spit on that combo from thast chilie site. for the simple reason is that it is not a true combo. It mostly works but that set-up of whiffing a jab before going into the crouch cancel series is escapable.

Thats why you'll see me going for s.fierce, whiff jab tornado. s.roundhouse, whiff c.fierce, then the shadow of the jab tornado will overlap the end of c.fierce allowing for an unflippable set-up.

It's a lot harder to time but is worth the effort learning. Nibor taught me this and i've still not seen it on any combo vids. I'm spending a lot of time working on the 2 infinite set-ups.

anyhoo, i'm going to watch your guy. and speaking of guy players and replays, where's your guy bushin187?

edit: nice replay psycore, some impressive combos and juggles.
the guy in the replays is my friend james kitchen.

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Buttermaker
01-19-2004, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by Muskau
Oh here's another Final Burn Alpha replay I did with A-Honda, I posted it in my Honda thread but I doubt anyone will check it out so I'll post it here to see if anyone can tell me if I can improve my Honda game.
Nice, it's always good to see rarely used characters. There's an A-Honda player in acho_zero3_20030824i.wmv (7 MB). I don't know if that video could help you but lemme know if you want it.


Originally posted by bushin187
Here is me doing survival mode with ryu about 4-5 months ago. Final Burn Alpha v0.2.94
I can't get that one to play back correctly. I enabled the light blue background with cheats and started your replay but you start a normal game and not survival mode.

Originally posted by psycore
But i couldnt see the ones of Musaku cause i dont have that version.... guess ill find it later
Edit: Sorry, had to take down the direct download from my webspace. You can get that version here: http://cp-systems2turbo.emuunlim.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1576

You have to register to be able to download.

Well, hope u like it...
Awesome replay. That's exactly what I was looking for. Too bad you get bored so fast, heh. Do you play Gen by any chance?

bushin187
01-19-2004, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by Buttermaker



I can't get that one to play back correctly. I enabled the light blue background with cheats and started your replay but you start a normal game and not survival mode.



Hmmmm. I don't remember if i used a cheat to start survival mode maybe You should try both with and without survivalmode cheats.
what´s light blue background

sub: my pc doesn´t have a videocard right now so I haven´t played a3 for a long time and the survival mode replay is all I have. Are you coming to TOUKON this summer http://home.tiscali.nl/kakarot/Drakenslag/playerlist/playerlist.htm

Muskau
01-19-2004, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Buttermaker


Nice, it's always good to see rarely used characters. There's an A-Honda player in acho_zero3_20030824i.wmv (7 MB). I don't know if that video could help you but lemme know if you want it.



Yeah thanks, that would be good to see, although I'm also interested in V-Honda as well.

Originally posted by Buttermaker


I can't get that one to play back correctly. I enabled the light blue background with cheats and started your replay but you start a normal game and not survival mode.



Yeah I've had a problem with the replay as well, I'll try different settings and see if i can get it working.

psycore
01-19-2004, 07:12 AM
the guy in the replays is my friend james kitchen.

Nice. I hope that my friends could play Rose that well.....

Awesome replay. That's exactly what I was looking for. Too bad you get bored so fast, heh. Do you play Gen by any chance?

mmm... lemme tell u something: What i have done in that rec, is no situable for real match. The only thing worth to see r the combos..... And, Gen........... maybe........ and thx 4 the emu..

Bye

PD: Sry 4 my sucky english :P (yeah, i speak like a monkey XD)
PD2: I want to be in a A3 Torney too :( ....... dunno why i keep playing this game.........

Muskau
01-19-2004, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by Subliminal UK


Muskau, you've improved a lot since the last replay that i saw of yours. it's obvious you've been putting some time in and learning the priorities. I've got some advice for you if you want it. You should learn crouch cancels. In your replay you win a lot of air-to-air counters, you can gain free hits after. Just hold down as you jump so you're landing into the crouch animation and cancel your landing into another jump. A 2nd j.fierce will carry on with the counter hit damage and carry the juggle potential on, so useful if you're near the corner too.



Thanks for the advice, but I don't think I've really improved, I just changed over to an emulator that works with my control drivers, and decided to stop whoring the crack kick against the cpu all the time, because I found it makes you lose focus on your ground game. It's just competition at my arcade has all but disappeared in the last few months, and I'm finding less and less reason to try and work extra stuff into my games. A few months ago I was starting to use V-Cody and doing basic corner, and mid screen VC's, but now I think I'm out of practice, which is why I've decided to learn Honda to get interested again.

BTW your V-Cody replays are good, it's nice to see what pokes and wake-up strategies people use, and it's nice to see that Sodom and Guy give people other than me trouble from time to time :lol:

Muskau
01-19-2004, 07:55 AM
bushin's V-Ryu Survival replay works if you just enable survival mode in the cheats menu and then start the replay, nice work with the VC's and juggles.

Mantis2K
01-19-2004, 11:15 AM
psycore,

Nobody can consistently time Guy's bushin chain as good as you demonstrated in those videos, so you must be using macros of some sort! All your combos were performed from a standing position, which kinda gives you away, because most people crouch during a Guy combo (c.LP or C.MP) when fighting against a Human opponent. His complete bushin chain is only effective against dizzy opponents, otherwise people can just crouch beneath the standing LP, causing the chain to whiff. I know you was fighting against the CPU, but your style of play just doesn't seem right, and suggests to me that you was cheating!

Buttermaker
01-19-2004, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by bushin187

what´s light blue background
Normally you can only play survival mode once the background colour of the title screen has turned to light blue. Read more about it at http://cps2shock.retrogames.com/gameinfo/sfz3/codes.html

my pc doesn´t have a videocard right now so I haven´t played a3 for a long time and the survival mode replay is all I have.
Excellent replay. I'm hoping you'll get a vid card soon.

Originally posted by psycore

What i have done in that rec, is no situable for real match.
Yeah, I realize that you can't play like that against a human opponent. I just wanted to see some nice combos.

psycore
01-19-2004, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Mantis2K
psycore,

Nobody can consistently time Guy's bushin chain as good as you demonstrated in those videos, so you must be using macros of some sort! All your combos were performed from a standing position, which kinda gives you away, because most people crouch during a Guy combo (c.LP or C.MP) when fighting against a Human opponent. His complete bushin chain is only effective against dizzy opponents, otherwise people can just crouch beneath the standing LP, causing the chain to whiff. I know you was fighting against the CPU, but your style of play just doesn't seem right, and suggests to me that you was cheating!

Macros?!!?!?! F$%k U! :D ...... just because you cant do it u say that i im cheating!!! jajaja please, tell me exactly what "suggests u that i was cheating!" F&%k u again...... besides, i never use Guy, i only know his combos and stuff cause i like to do vid combos and all that shit... jajaaa i cant belive this, someone is acusing me of cheating the "Expert" CPU...... u r :lame: ...... so, post ur recs or shut up....... bye

bushin187
01-20-2004, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Muskau
bushin's V-Ryu Survival replay works if you just enable survival mode in the cheats menu and then start the replay, nice work with the VC's and juggles. Excellent replay. I'm hoping you'll get a vid card soon. thnx for the compliments

Deathstroke
01-21-2004, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by Buttermaker
Thanks for the replays guys. Keep 'em coming.


Nice replay but it stops after your fight against Rose.


If you want something a little more challenging try survival mode.

Survival Mode is very difficult :)

But against my V-Akuma, Survival Mode Sucks :D

Subliminal UK
01-21-2004, 07:50 AM
I'm proud of this replay, shows me getting my shit together.

just beasting on the cpu, but i try and play as if it's a real opponent.

shows the infinite set-up a few times. enjoy if you like this kinda thing.

Sabre, middlekick, any criticism please?

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Muskau
01-21-2004, 12:18 PM
Sub, you were in great shape that time, lots of improvisation into VC's good work.

If someone is able to make a replay with them finishing expert CPU with R.Mika I will be eternally in awe of them :lol: I've never been able to beat Gief with Mika on the second last stage.

Subliminal UK
01-22-2004, 10:33 AM
so i was playing some 2-player tonight and it came out like this:

cody vs. guy

anyone got any opinions on it?

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Subliminal UK
01-22-2004, 10:55 AM
and this one:

Muskau
01-22-2004, 12:25 PM
Thought I'd just post some replays of me losing to CPU with different characters :lol:
damn Zangief! :mad:

psycore
01-22-2004, 12:41 PM
SubUk: I have seen the 1st one, and u improved. Also, ur Dodge is better now (the part where u dodge ken attacks at the corner and then taunt XD)...

Now im going to see ur 2nd rec, and the ones of Musaku too (i wanna see u losing XD muahahaa!!)...

Maybe ill post some of mine later.... byes

luuwat
01-22-2004, 03:21 PM
alpha3 sucks bad!!

_MJ_
01-22-2004, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by luuwat
alpha3 sucks bad!!


No, YOU DO.

_MJ_
01-22-2004, 09:06 PM
Wow thats the crappiest Guy i ever seen. BTW I don't rely on cr.fp into Crouch Cancel it's not the best way, I prefer standing fp.

Subliminal UK
01-22-2004, 11:36 PM
i like how luuwat rhymes with twat, got to love subjective opinions backed up with facts :/ next time you feel like posting don't bother. hit the back button to go back to gamefaqs.

MJ, yeah not the best guy but its all fun. thats my mate Arcade@home who came over for some bud and vs. I wanted to use him as a human guniea pig for my infinite set-up. And i'm pissed to learn that my timing isn't good enough and he was able to escape.

If anything i have me fluffling the set-up so at least i can figure out whats going wrong. i know i need my inifinite from my ground and air VC's down to stand a chance. back to the drawing board.

giving up online has been good for me, so much easier to learn timing when it's not changing all the time thanks to lag.

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Mantis2K
01-23-2004, 04:29 PM
Sub, guess what??? After you sent me those videos this morning (thank you very much), I've been practising, and I can now perform Vega's infinite!!! :D

BTW, I had to do this in win98, with my old pad, because the new win2000 pad is so shit for charging, but I can do dragon punches easy, so it's a toss up between the two! :rolleyes:

I've made 2 replays for you to check out!

First replay = 22 hits normal

Mantis2K
01-23-2004, 04:34 PM
Second replay = 24 hits as part of my special roll combo, which I invented myself!

Sub, although my special combo is weak, you know it works, sub! ;) Actually, nobody has ever broken out of it, so it must be guaranteed. However, I just use it for showing off because the damage is so crap... :p

SaBrE
01-26-2004, 05:25 PM
i hate making replays of me playing cpu since you gotta do extra unrealistic shit to win. but i figure i would make one anyway.

so heres my v-cody.

missed so much crap, havent played in months, missing cc setups :(

Subliminal UK
01-27-2004, 09:51 AM
thanks for posting, your replay was worth watching. your cody > my cody. some good ideas that i might have to borrow. i remember playing that cody late one night when i visited retronation. remember getting banged up.

hey you fancy a score challenge? I'm playing a lot of vs. cpu to get my offline timing down. i'll make a replay or take a screenshot. best of three rounds, expert (lol), and default everything else. I think i can push 2 million.

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Muskau
01-27-2004, 03:48 PM
Nice work Sabre! It's nice to see the little extra things people have innovated with Cody, I'd fear to see what would happen if your VC's were back up to 100%!

Hey maybe we should just put together a SFA3 Highscore thread with replays as supporting proof, that'd be a nice way of giving new players tips and strats vs the CPU.

I went to the arcade yesterday and demolished the CPU with my A-Cody, I think I've gotten too used to expert mode, the machine is set to 5 rounds so I finished with 3,800,000 or so.

SaBrE
01-27-2004, 10:52 PM
thanx for the props guys. trying to get a little scene going for this game again in my area. first time i really tried playing the game in months :( ill try and play another one... maybe do some other characters...my experience vs the cpu is very shitty. i lose a lot to expert cpu heh. dont know the tricks at all

Muskau
01-28-2004, 02:44 AM
The problem with playing the CPU alot and finding AI holes is that it tends to make you a bit lazy, try and keep from baiting the CPU into predictable patterns otherwise when you play RL opponents sometimes your conditioned response vs the cpu doesnt work.

Basically a rule of thumb is poke alot to keep the CPU out of inside sweep range since it just detects your button presses and super/throw/combos you way faster than you can react.

Subliminal UK
01-28-2004, 03:15 AM
yeah i know what you're saying. playing the cpu is shit. all i can really practice is my timing and consistency. thing is i'm hoping to blag this absolution tourney with the unflipable set-up and infinite. think i'm becoming ok at guessing when a poke is coming and VC countering.

anyway here's my score: 2,170,0400

I lost a round to guy and fluffled my complete bonus, so i know i can beat it. throw in a few more perfects too. think maybe 2,250,000 is attainable. damn X-chun nearly took it away from me, just had to chill and throw stones.

this is a pic and replay. if you watch it, i'd recommend ALT-T, then restarting kawaks after viewing.

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edit: in fact i insist you watch this replay in turbo mode, lol.

Muskau
01-28-2004, 01:17 PM
That time bonus also multiplies your score normally doesn't it? Not just when you get perfects. You also get bonuses for first attack, throw techs, combos, counters. Basically if something shows up on the screen like Counter or 12 Hit Combo you get a bonus.

For every two player win your score increases by 1 point, for every single player continue your score increases by 1.

I just wish that 'For matching service' site was still up, it kept a record of all the highscores on DC in japan, the highest was X-ism Rose at 9,999,999 I think.

bushin187
01-30-2004, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by SaBrE
i hate making replays of me playing cpu since you gotta do extra unrealistic shit to win. but i figure i would make one anyway.

so heres my v-cody.

missed so much crap, havent played in months, missing cc setups :(

That was good eventhough you missed a lot. I notice you always space yourself correctly for the FP > jab Tornado. And somehow it seems as if cody's normals are better when you use them. Most of the time when I use him shit doesn't connect or i can't get in close enough.

I play a little cody too lol. I basically started messing with him when I learned how to crouch cancel ( cody has some sweet crouch cancels ) My ground game is shit though and I haven't played a single match versus a human offline or online. I try to play a little bit like you guys but sometimes I have to whore the f+RH

I made a replay of me playing cody at my university . Plz no laughing :p . I loose a lot of matches !! cpu chun and gief own my for free

any constructive critism is welcome

bushin187
01-30-2004, 04:43 AM
Damn gief . I continued playing and it took like over ten tries to beat him. Only vc I can do with cody is his vc cc , In theory I should be able to do Fp > jab tornado's too since it kinda like the shoto's. His guard crush I think I can do but it's very hard to do that on the cpu . I think right now a-cody is my best though becuase I can mess around with supers

Anyways I think I'm gonna learn some cody vc's and fuck gief up.

In the next replay I continue fighting gief with communist cody.

Middlekick
01-31-2004, 06:55 AM
:/

Buttermaker
01-31-2004, 07:54 AM
I've never seen anybody use Birdie. Great stuff, thanks for the replay.

bushin187
01-31-2004, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by Middlekick
:/ OTG madness . I remember fighting your birdie. Any chance we get to see banana mika ?



Bushin187: I started your second replay and then stopped it immediately to make a recording. It has two different methods to beat Zangief. Never fight him on the ground. Always jump at him as you can see in the first round. The second round is self-explanatory. Thnx for the AI holes but I like to pretend the cpu is human . Anyways thnx for that replay . maybe you can show me some chun AI holes

Mantis2K
01-31-2004, 07:20 PM
OMG, that Birdie replay was wicked!!! Those OTG blue screen finishes are stunning! The best bit was when you threw the opponent behind you, into the corner, and finished with a 9-hit juggle. Also, the 10-hit corner juggle you performed TWICE on the boss! Amazing! I never knew Birdie could do that! Impressive stuff!! Thanks! :D

Muskau
01-31-2004, 08:07 PM
Excellent stuff, I remember a V-Birdie winning a UK tournament a few years back, but still no one seemed to take Birdie seriously.

Mantis2K
01-31-2004, 09:02 PM
Here's my replay against the comp, using Vega. I can't even do half my tricks against the comp, so I have to resort to a nice poking game. The only thing to check out and really pay attention to is MY WAY OF BEATING ZANGIEF !!! :D :D :D :lame:

Tell me what you think?

Muskau
01-31-2004, 10:05 PM
Looks good Mantis, although it looks like you have some inexperience with the CPU patterns, the juggles are good.

I bet the other guys will tell you to start doing the infinite though LOL

Ni@k_N!aK
02-01-2004, 03:17 PM
i'm quite experienced to this game, can you tell me the exact timing or the motion you do for crouch cancel, I still can't realize that and seeing the replays i see that it opens plenty of tricks
?

spence
02-01-2004, 03:44 PM
Hi Chaps,

I just stumbled upon this thread and started viewing the various kawaks replays that everyone has added - theres some excellent combos etc!!!!

The big thing at the moment seems to be infinites - and yes im *trying* to do them too! I can infinites with Ryu, Cody, & Sagat - however my problem is that all my setups rely on the opponent not hopping out at the end of the combo - once the cc's connect thats it game over - but for the first hit to connect the opponent has to be sleeping or somit, hence they forget to hop out. I'll record some of my combo's for you guys to observe and post them up later and I'd be more than grateful if you could let me know where im going wrong....

Anyway, I was just wondering if there are any Rolento players out there!? I've been trying to find Rolento's infinite but with no success. Infact I'd go as far to say that he hasnt got one - mainly because I dont think he has a crouch cancel (i,e, he does his super jump which I dont think is a cc). I've tried doing walk cancels but I have never got them to work (I assume its the same as a cc except as soon as you land you walk? If anyone has a kawaks reply I'd love to see how theyre done!). I'd love to see some Rolento replays so if anyone has the moves please post'em up.

L8a

Spence

Muskau
02-02-2004, 02:36 AM
Far as I can tell it wouldn't be possible for Rolento to have an infinite that could keep going outside a VC, the super jump would come out everytime, and I'm not sure if super jumping outside of a VC induces a neutral state.

If it was possible it would possibly be a VC, then finish with a walk cancel into a standing JP cancelled into a the wall dive special into walk cancel into standing JP repeat?

That's if it was possible, that's the only way I can think of, unless you can crouch cancel into super jump? But I've never heard of it?

bushin187
02-02-2004, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by spence
Hi Chaps,

Anyway, I was just wondering if there are any Rolento players out there!? I've been trying to find Rolento's infinite but with no success. Infact I'd go as far to say that he hasnt got one - mainly because I dont think he has a crouch cancel (i,e, he does his super jump which I dont think is a cc). I've tried doing walk cancels but I have never got them to work (I assume its the same as a cc except as soon as you land you walk? If anyone has a kawaks reply I'd love to see how theyre done!). I'd love to see some Rolento replays so if anyone has the moves please post'em up.

L8a

Spence I play rolento and rolento has cc's like everybody else. Just not an infinte. he can do

- counter hit jab in air --------> jumping fierce
- counter hit jab in air ------> down fierce
- counter hit jab ---> activate v-ism repeated jumping strongs

also he has a walk cancel vc which goes like : Rk ---.> superjump jab walk cancel Rk superjump jab etc.


I'll see if I can find you a bas vis or make a replay

Subliminal UK
02-02-2004, 12:50 PM
man, i just lost the longest post :/

I'll try and sum it up.

Mantis, I couldn't beat cpu with V-vega, don't know how you cope with that lame-ass damage vc. lol. you should learn that b+fierce, whiff jab roll into easy infinite. post a v-rolento replay for us ^^

bushin, your cody shows promise. learn a vc but you know that, here's some cody shit for you:

<v-ryuCOUR> cr MP > qcf+MK > [ st HP > qcf+MK(miss) > fowrd HK > qcf+MK(miss)] repeat

<v-ryuCOUR> lp tornado, jump VC1 jab
<v-ryuCOUR> thats the best
<v-ryuCOUR> if the opponnent doesnt recover well
<v-ryuCOUR> he gets hit by cody, or shadow

cr MP > qcf+HK > tornado+HP(miss) > stand HP, etc...

<v-ryuCOUR> u should use more
<v-ryuCOUR> tornado+LP in wake up game
<v-ryuCOUR> cause u have no dead time


c.fierce, forward ruffian kick, f+roundhouse, whiff forward ruffian, c.roundhouse, f+roundhouse, whiff forward ruffian, c.roundhouse, f+roundhouse, corner, S.fierce, whiif jab tornado, S.roundhouse, C.fierce, j.short cc, j.short

c.short, c.forward, forward ruffian, c.fierce, whiff forward ruffian kick, s.fierce, whiff forward ruffian kick, c.fierce, whiff forward ruffian, s.roundhouse, whiff forward ruffian kick, s.roundhouse, whiff forward ruffian kick, (corner) S.fierce, whiff jab tornado

Middlekick, i know you don't like props, so i'll just say i hope you post some more replays, i enjoyed watching.

someone a while back asked about a sagat replay, well here's my joke sagat.

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spence
02-02-2004, 02:16 PM
Hi Guys,

Muskau / bushin187 thanks for the replies. bushin187 - the crouch cancels that you mention are basically the ones that I do - however I cant find any cc's that can be used to create an infinite at an end of a custom combo.

I've just spent the last 15 mins trying to create 2 kawaks replays that show (a) my rolento VISM - trying to do an infinite, and (b) my ryu setup infinite.

First my disclaimer - my joypad is shite and im not gonna insult myself by showing you my lame (and I mean lame) gameplay on kawaks - so I just recorded my attempts at a couple of infinites.

sfa3.rc1 = RYU vism into an infinite. Basically when I do this combo on computer it works (i.e. CPU does not hop out) but on a human opponent they do. Im thinking that at the end of my combo if I do Ryu's infinte setup - i.e. hop kick / cancel into cyclone then cc maybe that will work - I'll try this at the weekend when im next at my local arcade (im not even gonna try kawaks cuz that pad of mine really does my head in!) *sigh* No doubt there is something fundamentally wrong with my combo - so please let me know what it is if you know.

sfa3.rc2 = Rolento vism into an attempted infinite. Basically the combo is shite but im hoping that my idea at the end of the combo is a possible infinite setup? Im trying to do walk cancel's but whenever I try them they dont work - am I right in thinking that a walk cancel is the same as a cc except as soon as you land you pull left or right and then jump immediately? Well thats what im trying to do with Rolento - and it aint working. Also I tried doing walk cancels with my V-Ryu and it didnt work either so im convienced im doing somit wrong....

This is all a learning thing for me so please send me any ideas / hints / tips etc....

Cheers

Spence

SaBrE
02-02-2004, 02:25 PM
rolento has no infinite. ha can only pogo bounce for so long. only a few characters in the game even have infinites. karin, cody, 1p ryu, sagat, gen, chun, and vega

psycore
02-02-2004, 04:23 PM
Also; Birdie, Sodom & someone that im forgeting, and maybe more.....

SaBrE
02-02-2004, 04:40 PM
no, they do not have infinites. they jsut have a long cc series. but definitely not an infinite

Middlekick
02-02-2004, 04:57 PM
Birdie does have an infinite:

VC ends-> crouch cancelled pumping strong x n.

You can juggle the opponent till they have no life left or you can continue the crouch cancelled series till you get 50% of the super meter back, then re-activate.

SaBrE
02-02-2004, 05:52 PM
eh, wasnt sure if you could do enough to get 50% meter back.

Mantis2K
02-02-2004, 06:31 PM
Here's my V-Rolento against the computer! Unfortunately, it never quite worked out, because I die at level 4! :bluu: Anyway, you might like to observe my strategy, and give me some feedback... There's really not much to it though, most of my stuff is displayed in those 4 matches...

Mantis2K
02-02-2004, 06:35 PM
Level 6! :(

I use an effective strategy against Blanka - that's it really! I give up! Any feedback?

Spence, nice idea for an infinite setup! BTW, how far can you go against the CPU on expert, with V-Rolento? I can't seem to get past Charlie... :mad:
Please make a replay!

TS
02-02-2004, 06:57 PM
I need to get over to my buddy's place and make some replays...

Anyway, can you do the Birdie cc jumping strong until KO? I thought they'd drop eventually, so you have to re-activate to kill them? And it's 1p only, right?

psycore
02-02-2004, 07:57 PM
Just that, V-Birdie doing CC's... 3 recs, 1 combo each.
In the 1st one i did; j. Jab(CH) CC VC1 j. Roundhouse till VC is 5%, then CC j. Strongs till KO....
And in the others 2, there r some posible VC setups for the infinite.... Btw... if u need longer replays, just say it, is just that i suck with birdie and i cant do his grab with this broken joystick...

Muskau
02-03-2004, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by bushin187
Thnx for the AI holes but I like to pretend the cpu is human . Anyways thnx for that replay . maybe you can show me some chun AI holes

Yeah Chun-Li is a real pain, the only way to consistently beat her is either memorizing her patterns, or just finding a character with better ground pokes. Never jump on her or try to attack her on wakeup if she has super, she'll use it. You can try walking towards her as she gets up then blocking, she'll usually super then.

If you jump alot, she'll tend to try and meet you in the air, stay near her on the ground(but not point blank), and she'll start her ground poke pattern, when she gets to the cr. RK, jump-in and combo as she finishes it.

If she jumps backwards twice, jump after her but don't get too close, if you do she'll jump forward as you jump after her and attack. After jumping back twice she always throws a fireball, jump it and combo her.

V-ism Chun-Li always jumps after activating VC, bait a VC, then block her first attack, then nail her when she jumps. Actually, most of the characters will jump soon after activating VC, be ready for it.

Muskau
02-03-2004, 06:02 AM
Here's my V-Honda on Expert, seriously he is just not good enough if you can't do Hundred hands on demand, the five button presses don't work for me, I always get one SP, and trying to buffer the 5 presses with SK doesn't work either.

And also apparently it looks like the Japanese Honda players use the FP Hundred Hands version, which I have never been able to get anyway. :rolleyes:

I also miss alot of 360 attempts, and can't do crouch cancelling on demand either, which he NEEDS to have to do decent damage at all.

spence
02-05-2004, 02:37 PM
Damn!

Ive been checking out some of the kawaks replays that some of you guys have come out with and I have to say that im impressed! I'd imagine that u guys go in for some competitions - or somit cuz u've got the moves!

I saw a few posts about who has and has'nt got infinites. I noticed that poor old Rolento wasnt listed - I've been trying to sort out a decent combo with him for ages and have failed. Rolento is good but I have never seen a Rolento custom combo that takes more than half enery off - can anyone say otherwise?

Also are there any infinites with Ken?

I noticed that Karin was listed as infinitable and I'd love to see that setup!

Finally does Ryu have any mid screen custom combos?

Sorry for all the questions but im learning ...

I dont suppose any of you are located in the UK - if so where? Id love to meet up for some challenges :)

L8a

Spence

H0C
02-12-2004, 02:21 AM
Hi! I'm pretty new to V-ism but I mainly use Sodom. Now I'm trying to polish up my V-Sodom but I'm having a problem with his midscreen to corner VC. I've seen in some FAQ's that you have to turn the opponent around when you get to the corner, but I can't seem to do that. Can anyone please post a replay of V-Sodom doing the combo? I'd greatly appreciate it.

By the way, Mantis2k, your Rolento rocks. You said you were having a hard time getting past Charlie, so I'll just make a little comment. I've learned that CPU Charlies tend to jump in A LOT, so use that as an advantage. I don't know if that's helpful or not, because that's just an AI loophole.

Lastly, it's great to see a lot of various characters in the match/combo replays. I'm sick and tired of shoto matchups all the time, especially when V-Gouki is involved. Seeing Birdie in action left me speechless. I'd love to see a kickass Dan or R. Mika in the future.

Subliminal UK
02-12-2004, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by spence
Ive been checking out some of the kawaks replays that some of you guys have come out with and I have to say that im impressed! I'd imagine that u guys go in for some competitions - or somit cuz u've got the moves!

I saw a few posts about who has and has'nt got infinites. I noticed that poor old Rolento wasnt listed - I've been trying to sort out a decent combo with him for ages and have failed. Rolento is good but I have never seen a Rolento custom combo that takes more than half enery off - can anyone say otherwise?

Also are there any infinites with Ken?

I noticed that Karin was listed as infinitable and I'd love to see that setup!

Finally does Ryu have any mid screen custom combos?

Sorry for all the questions but im learning ...

I dont suppose any of you are located in the UK - if so where? Id love to meet up for some challenges :)

L8a

Spence

Hey Spence,

i went to france and holland last year playing a3 and 3s, going to absolution 2k4 in april too.

Can't help you with rolento, i've not learned him.

No ken doesn't have an infinite, but i've seen a 100% damage combo in A-ism. I'll do a search for a replay. Think Middlekick posted one a while back. one sec. looks like its been deleted. hopefully kick will post again. looked like air to air- counter hit with j,fierce, cc, j.fierce. cc, j.fierce. s.fierce, jab dragon, dizzy. J.roundhouse, S.fierce XX level 3 kick super. or something long thouse lines.

Karin does not have a true infinite, I'm sure people disagree. My info is that it's a Semi. I've never seen this infinite on a combo vid or anything. Gen on the other hand does.

Ryu only has confusion and unblockable mid-screen VCs. Most V-ryu players always push for the rave. However you can try this unblockable.

ryu mid-screen: VC1: low short-> low roundhouse-> whiffed t+fierce-> [cross up forward-> low short-> low roundhouse-> whiffed t+fierce] x n
The low short and the shadow from the cross up forward should hit at the same time.

note people can reversal dragon etc out of this trap. only works if they try to block.

I'm near Sheffield and Leeds.

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Muskau
02-12-2004, 07:30 PM
Doesn't Daigo do the DP, FP Hadoken, hop kick, FP Hadoken, hop kick VC at mid screen juggle? Doesn't do much damage but it works I spose.

spence
02-14-2004, 03:33 AM
Hey Subliminal.

See my reply below:

> i went to france and holland last year playing a3 and 3s, going
> to absolution 2k4 in april too.

Cool, how well have you done in the comps that you have entered?

Im reasonbly confident that I have met you before actually - I remember going to a tourny in London (Namco Arcade) last year and I think you were there... Anyway, all I remember of that tourny was the poor condition of the damn joysticks & buttons - and since that day I though I aint gonna ever play in that arcade again cuz I couldnt use thoughs controls hence ended up looking really shoddy. But then again there were several other people there bitcin about the controls. Oh well.

I might go in for the absolution 2k4 comp...

> Can't help you with rolento, i've not learned him.

Shame, I've been looking for some top Rolento players for ages so I can bounce ideas off - but no luck :(

> No ken doesn't have an infinite, but i've seen a 100% damage
> combo in A-ism. I'll do a search for a replay. Think Middlekick
> posted one a while back. one sec. looks like its been deleted.
> hopefully kick will post again. looked like air to air- counter hit
> with j,fierce, cc, j.fierce. cc, j.fierce. s.fierce, jab dragon, dizzy.
> J.roundhouse, S.fierce XX level 3 kick super. or something long
> thouse lines.

I know what your saying - but im 99% sure that you can hop out of that combo. I've done some very similar combos with Ken and Ryu - but for some reason the opponent can hop out, however if they do not you can keep toggling them for an infinite. I guess I'd need to see the combo. If you can find the combo I'd appreciate it.

> Karin does not have a true infinite, I'm sure people disagree.
> My info is that it's a Semi. I've never seen this infinite on a
> combo vid or anything. Gen on the other hand does.

I'd like to see Gen's or Karin's. Where do u obtain the combo vids from?

> Ryu only has confusion and unblockable mid-screen VCs. Most V-
> ryu players always push for the rave. However you can try this
> unblockable.
>
> ryu mid-screen: VC1: low short-> low roundhouse-> whiffed
> t+fierce-> [cross up forward-> low short-> low roundhouse->
> whiffed t+fierce] x n
> The low short and the shadow from the cross up forward
> should hit at the same time.

Yeah I can see how that might work.

> I'm near Sheffield and Leeds.

Shame, would'a been good to meet up. I have an A3 machine in my garage and each week myself and a few friends have Fri/Sat challenges - its a laugh, but would be good to get some diff challengers. Anyway, im from Bath so if u r ever down my way gimmie a shout.

Cya

Spence

spence
02-14-2004, 04:06 AM
Mantis2K,

You requested a reply of my Rolento - so I just created one. I wanna say my disclaimer first - I hate my joystick hence theres a lot of lame / missed / messed up moves in my replay. I never play the CPU - hence the first few rounds are me getting used fo things. Anyway, I completed the game on expert and if you wanna have a good old laugh then have a watch.

If anyone out there has some good Rolento combo replays plz post them up.

Cya

Spence

TS
02-14-2004, 10:09 PM
this replay is one of the 4 worst things I've ever done in my life. Enjoy.

Muskau
02-14-2004, 11:35 PM
Nice stuff TS, I don't think I've ever seen a V-Rose ever, nice colour scheme too :lol:

At least now I can have an idea of V-Rose compared to A-Rose.
I wonder why people were arguing V-Rose was useless, compared to A-Rose?

Those shawl juggles in the corner were sweet!

Spence, try to use more of Rolento's other pokes, standing FK, crouching RK to poke while getting into range, standing FP etc

The Baton combo isn't all that great I've found, its only useful from a connected cr. FK at max range. Since an FP does almost the same amount of damage and doesn't give the opponent meter unlike the baton combo, I tend to prefer poking more.

spence
02-16-2004, 04:10 PM
Hi Muskau,

Thanks for the advice - see my rpely below:

> Spence, try to use more of Rolento's other pokes, standing FK,
> crouching RK to poke while getting into range, standing FP etc

Yeah I know what you mean. With regards to standing FK I really cant see what advantage that move has over standing FP, or even better pull back FP?

I like the sound of crouching RK to FP poke whilst getting up - however the only problem I can see with that move is predicatability - i.e. if people know the poke is coming they will counter hit (i.e. dragon punch or somit).

> The Baton combo isn't all that great I've found, its only useful
> from a connected cr. FK at max range. Since an FP does almost
> the same amount of damage and doesn't give the opponent
> meter unlike the baton combo, I tend to prefer poking more.

I agree 100%! Rolento really does get a raw deal with regards to his pipe twirl. I guess I should start using the FP, but the downside is that standing jab, medium sweep, 3 x twirl does take about 50% more energy off - I will experiment though.

I dont suppose you have any Rolento replays? Ideally im looking for some Rolento corner trap combos. I've seen one which goes:

standing light kick, standing medium kick, standing heavy punch, super jump, (optional heavy kick in air), medium punch twirl (in air), (then repeat).

I've tried the above combo countless times and have probably got it to work once (fluke!). Basically when I super jump in the opponent 9 times out of 10 can dragon punch / counter hit. Im quite sure this combo only works on tall players (i.e. Sagat / Dhalsim, etc). If anyone has a reply of this combo and could give adivce I would be grateful....

Cheers

Spence

spence
02-16-2004, 04:22 PM
Hi All,

Heres my million dollar question - how do you go about creating a non-hop outable inifinite VISM. The only one I know of is RYU's basic infinite - i.e. hop kick / cancelled into cyclone, followed by medium punches. Besides that combo (which isnt very useful) I dont know any others....

Basically doing an infinite is easy, but the trick is making that infinite non hop outable at the end of your VISM. If *anyone* has some advice on this I would be grateful. Even better I would be grateful if someone could answer a few questions I have...

1. When in a VISM is it possible to crouch cancel a non air move. i.e. if I am playing say RYU and I am toggling the opponent in the corner with fireballs at the end of my combo could I do a heavy punch crouch cancelled into a jump medium punch. Hence can you cc a non air move (I dont think so).

2. How do you do a walk cancel? Ive always thought it was the same as a cc except upon landing out of the air you walk (either pull left or right) and then immediately jump. Is this right? Can someone plz post a kawaks reply showing this? I have tried this countless times with Ryu (who I can do cc's with) but I have never been able to do a walk cancel. Help needed... :/

3. At the end of a VISM whats the best way to start a non hop outable infinite?

4. Why isnt this a non hop outable infinite. When playing VRYU you start a VISM combo in the corner that toggles the opponent - i.e. simple punch fireballs, at the end of the combo you do Ryu's classic infinite setup (hop kick, cancelled into cyclone) then cc into medium punch infinite - regardless of whether the hop kick hits or not the opponent can hop out at the end of the VISM combo. Why?

5. When playing Ryu / Ken / Akuma, is it possible to crouch cancel out of a cyclone kick? i.e. when in corner, do a VISM, cyclone, cc into some combo? I guess for some reason the cyclone has to be an air move - if so - why?

Well, as per usual I have lots of questions. Any / All advice, hints, tips, replays (you name it) would be appreciated.

Cheers

Spence

bushin187
02-17-2004, 01:00 AM
Mantis 2k and spence.

rolento is not about combo's he's about zoning . Especially
v-rolento B+Fp is too good.

When I play rolento I usually zone and poke and sometimes I use knife traps. But really don't worry about combos I fought matches were I don't even use my meter except for AC.

Rolento has a special AC , when an opponent uses a laggy move like a sweep you can AC and punish them. This is a double edge sword though.

maybe I can put up a replay later

spence

question 1 don't really understand

question 2

you land and push down just like a normal cc but now instead of doing a normal ,special or another jump you walk.

This can be very usefull , example guy counterhit jumping strong ---> cc walk --> final fight chani.

TS
02-17-2004, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by spence


1. When in a VISM is it possible to crouch cancel a non air move. i.e. if I am playing say RYU and I am toggling the opponent in the corner with fireballs at the end of my combo could I do a heavy punch crouch cancelled into a jump medium punch. Hence can you cc a non air move (I dont think so).


Doesn't work. You can sometimes get away with stuff like the hopkick cancel at the end of the corner VC, because you're already jumping as the shadow hits them; the thing keeping them from using the PP flip to Air Recover out of the combo is the fact that they're presently being hit. Because you can't cancel a normal or special move into a jump (not counting Rolento's superjump), so there is a gap where they can escape.


3. At the end of a VISM whats the best way to start a non hop outable infinite?


I guess the safest way would generally be to use the damage resets from the BAS videos. Like you end your VC with a standing Strong with Ryu (while juggling in VC2), they flip and land on the shadow of the SP before they hit the ground, and since they can only flip once in the corner you get to jump up and do whatever. These are not completely inescapable, though. Otherwise it's character-specific...some characters can do it, some can't.



4. Why isnt this a non hop outable infinite. When playing VRYU you start a VISM combo in the corner that toggles the opponent - i.e. simple punch fireballs, at the end of the combo you do Ryu's classic infinite setup (hop kick, cancelled into cyclone) then cc into medium punch infinite - regardless of whether the hop kick hits or not the opponent can hop out at the end of the VISM combo. Why?

5. When playing Ryu / Ken / Akuma, is it possible to crouch cancel out of a cyclone kick? i.e. when in corner, do a VISM, cyclone, cc into some combo? I guess for some reason the cyclone has to be an air move - if so - why?


There is always a neutral state after a hurricane kick. They can always flip afterwards, because you cannot really cancel the landing frames of the move into anything. As for the question before that, it's probably because they were already in the air, and you couldn't hit them with the hurricane kick shadow (hopkick is canceled mid-air, of course) and still hit them with a jumping Strong in time.

spence
02-17-2004, 07:01 AM
Hi bushin187,

Thanks for the info. Please see my reply below:

> rolento is not about combo's he's about zoning . Especially
> v-rolento B+Fp is too good.

B+FP is good, but for some reason (unknown to me) whenever you pay RYU,KEN,AKUMA characters their air cyclone 50% of the time goes straight through that move - and upon observation the B+FP definitely hits! This is annoying as one of my friends who I regularly challenge uses this to his advantage alot - hence I dont use it that much, instead I will use jump/jab or perhaps standing FP depending on the distance.

> When I play rolento I usually zone and poke and sometimes I
> use knife traps. But really don't worry about combos I fought
> matches were I don't even use my meter except for AC.

What do u consider as being a knife trap? i.e. knife then land heavy sweep kinda thing?

> Rolento has a special AC , when an opponent uses a laggy
> move like a sweep you can AC and punish them. This is a
> double edge sword though.

Generally I do agree. Basically when I play V-Rolento I dont know of any good (50%+) VISM combos - hence I dont do any! Also, the combos that I generally do include the pipe twirl which gives so much super meter back to the opponent its kinda pointless. Therefore I always save Rolentos VISM for a counter hit of some sort. IMO I dont think his alpha counter is that great, or useful - it can get him out of the corner which is good but thats about it.

> maybe I can put up a replay later

IF you could put up a reply I'd really appreciate it as im sure I could learn a few things from your Rolento.

Thanks for the explanation of a walk cancel. I assume once you have done a walk cancel and performed some move thats the end of your combo - i.e. you cant cc a walk cancel right?

Cheers

Spence

spence
02-17-2004, 07:05 AM
Hi TS,

Thanks for reply - you basically cleared up a few issues that I kinda knew the answer to but wasnt 100% sure.

You mentioned something about a BAS video ("I guess the safest way would generally be to use the damage resets from the BAS videos. ") - where can I get a copy of this video because Im sure I'd learn alot. By any chance is it possible to make a kawaks reply of a non hop outable combo which demonstrates this theory?

Thanks again,

Spence

bushin187
02-18-2004, 02:13 AM
B+FP is good, but for some reason (unknown to me) whenever you pay RYU,KEN,AKUMA characters their air cyclone 50% of the time goes straight through that move - and upon observation the B+FP definitely hits! This is annoying as one of my friends who I regularly challenge uses this to his advantage alot - hence I dont use it that much, instead I will use jump/jab or perhaps standing FP depending on the distance.


- true , a slide or a standing fp are better agaist shoto Hk's nonetheless b+FP is a great move . Even dhalsim has to adjust his anti-air against Hk jumpins


What do u consider as being a knife trap? i.e. knife then land heavy sweep kinda thing?

examples

1 jab , B+Fp xx Rk knife , s.forward c. Fp
2 B+fk xx Rk knife , fk xx Rk knife
3 B+fk ,fk xx Rk knife
etc


Generally I do agree. Basically when I play V-Rolento I dont know of any good (50%+) VISM combos - hence I dont do any! Also, the combos that I generally do include the pipe twirl which gives so much super meter back to the opponent its kinda pointless. Therefore I always save Rolentos VISM for a counter hit of some sort. IMO I dont think his alpha counter is that great, or useful - it can get him out of the corner which is good but thats about it.

- Basically rolento's alpha counter is special because he can go from offense to defense in an instant. It doesn't knock the opponent down like others.

example

dhalsim hits you with the with his twin laser. You AC it ,

1 he's still retracting his limbs and it's a free pipe twirl combo
2 he manages to block you can throw him or go for a pattern

this only works on laggy moves though like shoto sweeps. I've also seen someone try to do it on guy's sweep ( he failed though)

Also some stuff like hadourave and akuma unblockable can be hard to AC. Rolento doesn't have any problems with that. Usually he gets a free sweep from an AC


Ryu ken sagat akuma etc can guard crush most chars from outside of AC range. This doesn't work on v-rolento because of his special AC which doesn't knock the opponent down when he AC he's free to do what ever

But like I said like al AC's it's a double edge sword



IF you could put up a reply I'd really appreciate it as im sure I could learn a few things from your Rolento.

-I'll try

Thanks for the explanation of a walk cancel. I assume once you have done a walk cancel and performed some move thats the end of your combo - i.e. you cant cc a walk cancel right?

yeah basically. I think so

spence
02-18-2004, 01:25 PM
Hi bushin187

Thanks for the reply.

Quite interesting about what you were saying with regards to Rolento's AC against players like Dhalsim. I can definitely see how that might be useful - I will keep that in mind (thanks)

If you do get a chance to post up your Rolento replay that would be great as im sure I could learn a few tips here and there.

Thanks again for your advice.

Spence

Muskau
03-09-2004, 08:12 AM
Repost of a replay submitted by Subliminal UK I think???? :confused:

Anyways it's 2 player vs replay file for kawaks, frequency 15 Mhz.

_MJ_
03-10-2004, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by H0C
Hi! I'm pretty new to V-ism but I mainly use Sodom. Now I'm trying to polish up my V-Sodom but I'm having a problem with his midscreen to corner VC. I've seen in some FAQ's that you have to turn the opponent around when you get to the corner, but I can't seem to do that. Can anyone please post a replay of V-Sodom doing the combo? I'd greatly appreciate it.



here i made a replay of it with a sweet otg Butsumetsu Buster ender :)

Use b+FP when you get to the corner to cross them over and finish the vc

rename to .rc9

Muskau
03-11-2004, 05:23 AM
M.Bison single player expert difficulty, Ryu is Bisons boss, but he's tougher to beat than Shin Bison! :lol:

Anyway even if you lose to Ryu, you still win, thats the funny thing. But instead of Bison boasting about him conquering the world, its Ryu screaming for help trapped inside the Psycho Drive! :lol:

Anyways I was bored...

TS
03-11-2004, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by spence
Hi TS,

Thanks for reply - you basically cleared up a few issues that I kinda knew the answer to but wasnt 100% sure.

You mentioned something about a BAS video ("I guess the safest way would generally be to use the damage resets from the BAS videos. ") - where can I get a copy of this video because Im sure I'd learn alot. By any chance is it possible to make a kawaks reply of a non hop outable combo which demonstrates this theory?

Thanks again,

Spence

Missed this one. There was a set of videos that BAS did which had a lot of variants of the same combo- basically a corner juggle in VC2 with various characters, and then they use what was usually a standing Strong at the end (always?), the opponent would do a neutral air-recovery, land on the shadow of the Strong, and then whoever was doing the combo jumps up and starts to crouch-cancel, since the opponent can only air-recover once in the corner.

There were a lot of other random combos, like the Chun Li infinite, random crouch-cancels, a lot of Akuma OTGs, other random stuff etc. I don't think there on the web anymore, but you can probably get them off of gamecombos.com's channel on IRC or something.

Buttermaker
03-11-2004, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Muskau
M.Bison single player expert difficulty, Ryu is Bisons boss, but he's tougher to beat than Shin Bison! :lol:
Shin Bison is actually very easy to beat.

Anyway even if you lose to Ryu, you still win, thats the funny thing. But instead of Bison boasting about him conquering the world, its Ryu screaming for help trapped inside the Psycho Drive! :lol:
No, you lose and get Ryu's ending.

where can I get a copy of this video
If you're on IRC somewhere let me know what name and network you use and I'll send the vids to you.

Muskau
03-11-2004, 03:57 PM
I know how to beat Shin Bison, I was saying Ryu is hard to beat.

Oh and your right about Bison losing, it must be when Bison wins, you hear things from Ryu's point of view trapped inside the Psycho drive.

Buttermaker
03-11-2004, 04:19 PM
Yes, but that still sounds like Shin Bison is hard to beat. :) He's actually one of the easiest opponents.

H0C
03-14-2004, 12:02 AM
Thanks for the replay, _MJ_ ! The BB OTG finisher is a nice touch!

Muskau
03-27-2004, 09:45 AM
I was working on doing a new replay but I happened to find that X-Chun is a complete WHORE in expert! A and V Chuns weaknesses are her fireball and her flip kick, in X-ism she doesn't have either so i dunno what the hell your supposed to do most of the time, her Spinning bird kick, lighting kick and super all do obscene amounts of block damage. I'm using Bison and X-Gief is no problem once you figure out how to use guerilla tactics on him, and X-Ken is an annoyance, but X-Chun is just a BITCH! I can still beat her 2nd or 3rd go but jeeeezzzz.

psycore
03-27-2004, 10:40 AM
i have been playing V-ken during the 3 past weeks.... and i can say that is very good to the point that now i dont miss his A-ism supers.... ill post a rec later.....

Muskau
03-27-2004, 06:01 PM
Anyone remember what the default Mhz for Kawaks is? I still have it set to 15

Buttermaker
03-27-2004, 07:39 PM
CPS2 = 11.8 MHz

Muskau
03-28-2004, 08:35 PM
Well here's me finishing on expert with Bison again this time not losing to Ryu on the final stage. Seems kinda pathetic how much the CPU falls for repeated Fierce in the corner, but when you ever try and set up a complex trap they are always able to reversal out of it.

Kawaks 11.8 Mhz

Muskau
03-28-2004, 09:03 PM
HA! I can't believe it, I just replayed the recording file and it stuffs up my button inputs during the Akuma fight, to hell with Kawaks, I'm going back to Final Burn.

Buttermaker
03-28-2004, 11:00 PM
First time I've seen a Kawaks replay desync, damn.

I prefer Final Burn for playing back. No filename restrictions and you can just double-click the replay file. Final Burn Alpha downloads of old versions are suspended right now. If you wanna make sure that everybody can easily watch your stuff you might wanna use the latest version.

http://fba.emuunlim.com/downloads.php

sky_net86
03-31-2004, 02:47 AM
Here's my replay of Dan defeating expert Ryu. It was hard (or i was lucky :D) but i did it.

Muskau
03-31-2004, 10:10 AM
Anyway heres a working A-Bison replay finished on expert only one round lost to ken cause i was impatient(I hate waiting for Kens patterns *yawn*) on FBA 2.94

V-Bison seems really interesting, and his colours are cool too :lol: so I might give him a go.

psycore
03-31-2004, 01:10 PM
Here´s my V-Cody without VC's XD...... watch it....

Muskau
03-31-2004, 04:57 PM
Nice practice with the CC's Psycore I really have to get into the habit of following up air-air counterhits since bison gets so many.

Buttermaker
03-31-2004, 05:15 PM
Good job everybody. Keep it up.

Muskau: I was reading some old posts and saw that you're using X-Cody. How about a replay?

Muskau
03-31-2004, 09:59 PM
I used to use X-Cody on PSX A3 his 80% corner juggles were much easier in that version, but I found that if you want the super to connect against any competent player guaranteed it has to be a air-air counterhit with the super, you can also connect with it around mid screen and juggle with two jumping kicks to get to the corner, during the super period the opponent cannot flip out as long as they were hit while the super was active.

I haven't played X-Cody for a while but I'll see what I can come up with.

Muskau
04-01-2004, 12:05 AM
Been trying to practice X-Cody Final Destruction setups (they do heaps of damage but the chance that you'll get a chance to do them is slim) , from jumping JP counterhit near the corner, you can cc. j.FP, land in the corner, cr. SP, RK Ruffian Kick, then activate Final Destruction (you can use the super invincibility to pass through flip out attacks if you want) then [st. P, cr. P] (x5), then jumping kick. Did around 70% against expert CPU opponent so it should do more against live opponents.

I haven't been able to do the st. P, st. P, j. K Super combo that I used to do on PSX I think that Cody's hit area on his punch is smaller, perhaps theres a different way to do it?

Also another way to setup is a hurricane launcher in the corner then if the opponent uses flipout activate super etc etc

Guaranteed setup is counter hit anti-air or air-air super jumping kick, around the middle of the screen is the farthest distance you can start from to get to the corner. Just do two jumping kicks and you'll be in the corner and you can start the rest of the combo from there.

The Knife does heaps of block and guard damage in X-ism, it might be worth it to use it more often.

Anyways thats what I've discovered while mucking around, if I actually get a good run I'll record it.

Drunken Master
04-01-2004, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Muskau
If it was possible it would possibly be a VC, then finish with a walk cancel into a standing JP cancelled into a the wall dive special into walk cancel into standing JP repeat?

Just trying to find out how to get all this kawaks stuff working on my PC (it seems that I'm missing out) and came across this..

Thanks for the idea. :) ESPECIALLY for 2p rolento who can get into the corner! I'm gonna try it out.

_MJ_
04-03-2004, 04:54 PM
found some replays on sft

http://bbs.sftchina.com/viewfile.asp?id=4281
http://bbs.sftchina.com/viewfile.asp?id=4282
http://bbs.sftchina.com/viewfile.asp?id=4283

Buttermaker
04-04-2004, 05:11 AM
Thanks MJ.

A nice Gen recording from the Alpha 3 thread:
Originally posted by yes4me
Here is the way I play Gen or at least try to. BTW, I tend to play almost the same way against people in the arcade, except I am a LOT more worry against V-ISM, fakes, and Sakura since I am not use to see that kind of stuff against the computer. If I am in Golfland in Milpitas or San Jose, you cannot miss me: I am one of the rare guy who still play a lot SFA3 as a happy jumping Gen.

Cheats used:
- difficulty expert mode
- damage low
- time slow
- speed level 2
- survival mode set ON
- shortcut used for PPP and KKK
- autofire for LP, LK, MP

This is my first ever recorded game.
I use autofire to avoid destroying my keyboard. BTW, I don’t use anymore MP in autofire, but it really did mess-up a few of my combos in this game.

Final note: I am not used to play Ryu, because he is kind of a far in the survival mode.


http://www.geocities.com/yes4me.rm/sfa3.zip
(this is a recorded game for Win Kawaks 147b, freq 11.8)



Patiently waiting for some flames... :D

Drunken Master
04-07-2004, 08:23 AM
Can you replay .fr files in Kawaks? Or do I need to use a different emulator?

Buttermaker
04-07-2004, 10:05 AM
Final Burn Alpha

Drunken Master
04-07-2004, 10:53 AM
ahhh.. ok. thanks man.

Buttermaker
04-16-2004, 12:25 PM
Error loading input recording. :confused:

Your sfa3-bison2-FBA294.fr works just fine.

Muskau
04-16-2004, 12:39 PM
I was afraid this would happen, I'm using the beta of the same 2.94 version of FBA, I guess the replays are completely incompatible, I went back to it after I found that there was no cheat file in the final release.

Buttermaker
04-16-2004, 01:24 PM
The full installer contains cheats but you can just copy the sfa3.ini from the cheat dir of the older version into the cheats dir of the new version.

Here's the old FBA version needed for Muskau's latest replay and most other FBA ones: right-click -> save target as... (http://members.tripod.com/morrisbuttermaker/fba0294.zip)

Would be nice if somebody could upload it somewhere else for people to download because the last time I put it up here the bandwidth limit got exceeded, hehe.

Subliminal UK
04-16-2004, 01:27 PM
Cody vs. Guy

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Muskau
04-16-2004, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Buttermaker
The full installer contains cheats but you can just copy the sfa3.ini from the cheat dir of the older version into the cheats dir of the new version.


I tried that but it didnt seem to work for me ???

Buttermaker
04-16-2004, 03:49 PM
Strange, I compared both files and they have exactly the same size but I'll attach the sfa3.ini that came with the full installer.

Did you create the cheats dir or was it there already? It's called "cheats" and not "cheat" in the new version. Maybe that was the problem.

Muskau
04-17-2004, 12:16 AM
Thanks for that, its working fine now. :)

Drunken Master
04-17-2004, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by Subliminal UK
Cody vs. Guy


Nice stuff.. thanks for the replays.

It must have been damn infuriating to eat that kick super EVERYTIME he did it. When you finally blocked it, I actually cheered! :)

This kawaks stuff is sweet.

Muskau: plz put your replay back up.. I wanna see some Baisan.

Drunken Master
04-17-2004, 08:11 PM
I tried installing the beta Buttermaker posted. But it said I'm missing a *.dll?

Get with the times man! :)

Buttermaker
04-18-2004, 03:04 AM
Every emulator supporting Kaillera comes with the kailleraclient.dll. Just copy and paste it.

psycore
04-18-2004, 01:27 PM
... Here's a rec of blanka featuring nice tactics, anyhow, it has a lot of mistakes too cause i was done at 7a.m :P

Enjoy it. Btw, c&c r all welcome (just dont post thing like "Dont jump at a tigerflow cause u r gona get hit, duh" cause i already know that)....

Muskau
04-18-2004, 02:27 PM
Nice work Psycore, I liked the Electricity juggles, sometimes it seems airblockable and sometimes it doesn't?

Only thing I could say about your play is that you didn't appear to use Blanka's cross-up at all. Just remember to be careful with Blanka ball combos, since some characters can punish it if blocked.
Of course it doesn't matter vs CPU hehehe

Other than that, it looks good. :)

psycore
04-18-2004, 02:56 PM
i used blanka's crossup only one time, still have to get used to this one... (more info about this would be v.aprecciated)
and yep, i have to be carfull with blocked balls. Anyway thats not a big problem (like sometime i eated a shinkuuhadoken, that it didnt big damage).
Now ill started to try some mixups, like canceling his c. Forward with the dash into grab or super and things like that...
Also i would a few things:
is there a way to link into his Ballsuper?
is A better than X?
Does V-Blanka have a VC?
and a few more things that i dont remember right now :P

Bye....

Xenozip.
04-18-2004, 09:23 PM
I have some replays of v-guy vc combos that I'd really appreciate some feedback on.

Essentially I'm looking for ways to improve the damage or to find out if there have been other ways of performing these combos that I don't already know about.

Since people rarely play v-guy in tournaments, and I can't seem to find any "good" v-guy combo vids, I'm guessing these are "optimal" combos for him, but again, I'd really appreciate some feedback.

These recordings were created in Final Burn Alpha version 0.2.94 with Street Fighter Zero 3 (Japan 980629). I'm sorry I recorded them in SFZ3 and not SFA3, but if anyone needs the rom first, that shouldn't be a problem.

[Edit] : I also have some interesting Rolento an Vega (balrog in japan) combo replays if anyone is interested.

Anyway, here they are :

Muskau
04-20-2004, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by psycore

Also i would a few things:
is there a way to link into his Ballsuper?
is A better than X?
Does V-Blanka have a VC?
and a few more things that i dont remember right now :P

Bye....

Just practice and experiment with the crossup if you want to get the feel for it. It can set up throws, combos, hops.

X is better than A in that he loses his crappy super and does more damage, but he loses his Alpha Counter which can be a problem against V-ism players and he'll take more damage as well so you can't play too recklessly.

As far as I know V-Blanka doesn't have any VC's, I've never even seen a V-Blanka, and I doubt he has any VC's that do more damage than his supers.

Xenozip.
04-20-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Muskau
As far as I know V-Blanka doesn't have any VC's, I've never even seen a V-Blanka, and I doubt he has any VC's that do more damage than his supers. I've been wondering about that. As far as I know, his Electricity acts like a sweep, so it can't be re-juggled. All of his blanka-ball attacks have pretty poor recovery time so I can't imagine they'd be useful.

On the other hand, Blanka has a very fast and very low jump arch, so is it possible he has a CC infinite?

Drunken Master
04-20-2004, 01:54 PM
Not an infinite, but a very long CC series (AFAIK)

psycore
04-20-2004, 02:43 PM
gonna try that CC's when i get home. IM THE CC MASTA!!!!!!

Muskau
04-22-2004, 08:44 AM
I deleted the old Bison Beta replay since it would cause people to have to keep track of two FBA versions, so this prolly my last A-Bison replay, expert, no round losses.

I might start on V-Bison and muck around with him since i think he has alot of potential just with confusion VC's alone.

Xenozip.
04-22-2004, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Muskau
I might start on V-Bison and muck around with him since i think he has alot of potential just with confusion VC's alone. Does V-Bison have anything special out-side of confusion VC's?

I mean, I know you can't cancel out of his psycho ball even during a VC. Plus his sissors kick isn't cancelable on the first hit and always knocks into the air on the second.

I can't imagine his headstomp being any good in a VC, though it'd be hilarious to watch, hehe.

I've seen like one Bison VC in a combo vid and it did horrific damage. Maybe I'm behind?

Muskau
04-22-2004, 08:30 PM
Bison has mid screen and corner VC's that do respectable damage, I wonder if a confusion VC could do more, since basically you would have instant air dives and stomps and shots avaiable, if you used a delayed shadow, it could cause all sorts of confusion.

Drunken Master
04-23-2004, 06:32 AM
Confusion VC might be ok if they have no meter, but is there anything airtight that can stop them from mashing on VC? Is there an unblockable?

crouch-cancel VC is cool because bison owns the air.. but I don't know good ways to start his VC on the ground. :(

Muskau? anything beside d.MP into scissors? I can't get it to work unless i'm right up their ass, and it doesn't work on crouching opponents it seems anyways.

I usually get too obsessed with landing shadow hit b+mk or b+mp anyways. :/

If you know any cool VCs though I might make the switch from A. But it right now it seems like it's not nearly worth the effort.

Xenozip.
04-25-2004, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Drunken Master
If you know any cool VCs though I might make the switch from A. But it right now it seems like it's not nearly worth the effort. I wanna know too -.-

And wtf does everyone keep changing their avs on this forum -.-

Buttermaker
04-26-2004, 06:09 AM
Bison VCs by BAS (http://members.tripod.com/morrisbuttermaker/bison.zip) (right-click -> save target as...)

Xenozip.
04-26-2004, 07:37 AM
Ahhh, thank you.

Hehe, I can actually read the Japanese file names.

Muskau
04-26-2004, 09:32 PM
Do you know if there were any crouch cancel Bison VC's done?

Mantis2K
04-29-2004, 12:15 PM
I've been away and haven't been playing A3 much lately, since we lost our server - "Wises place". However, I've got back into it this week, practising a bit of V-Sodom, and thought I would show you guys some of my new aggressive pressure tactics! :D

Here I am against the CPU on Expert mode... Look out for my match against Guy; the air throw is what I've been practising mostly! I can't remember which tournament I stole this strat from, but it's definitely guaranteed after the VC fierce jitte, followed by uppercut. Anyway, check it out! ;)

I hope you all continue to contribute to this excellent thread, for there's been some superb replays from everyone. Hope you're all doing okay - sub, middle, spence etc. Keep up the good work! :)

-Mantis2K

Xenozip.
05-19-2004, 10:07 AM
Cheats Enabled :
Suvival Mode : Enabled

Final Burn Alpha version 0.2.94

Street Fighter Alpha 3 (US 980629) - The rom is sfa3r1.zip

V-Dhalsim on Expert + Suvival mode.

You have to enable Suvival mode (or time release: light blue) cheat to get it to run properly.

Umm... Yeah. Did this thread die?

Subliminal UK
05-22-2004, 12:41 PM
Here's some new replays,

Me and TLK messing around.

hope ya enjoy, and post some comments.

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btw kawaks 1.49 dunno if it matters for replays.

HMM just tried watching this back and it lost sync :
can anyone confirm if it works?
The 1.47b replays (the following posts) on 1.47b sync ok.

Subliminal UK
05-22-2004, 12:45 PM
Theses are for kawaks 1.47b

not sure if they play in 1.49 , damn revisions.

anyways, another replay. Me and TLK again.

This has been compressed twice, once with winzip and once with winrar.

criticisms welcome.

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Subliminal UK
05-22-2004, 12:50 PM
I'm hoping these will inspire some more of you to hook up and record some vs. sessions.

Another replay for those that like. (1.47b)

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Subliminal UK
05-22-2004, 12:54 PM
Hmm, not sure what all these are to be honest. upload first watch later.

This is another double zipped file, recorded in kawaks 1.47b.

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Xenozip.
05-22-2004, 07:15 PM
Those matches rocked!

Well, I only watched like 4 of them so far, but the ones I saw so far were great. :)

I really wish I didn't lag so badly on Kaillera. :|

psycore
05-23-2004, 07:56 AM
nice recs......... btw, heres one of training with cammy vs "EXPERT(aka less stupid)" cpu......... anyway, i play like a kamikaze, but thats just is vs the CPU........ also, im trying some theory bout linkz.... enjoy.

Xenozip.
05-29-2004, 08:22 PM
Cheats Enabled :
Suvival Mode : Enabled

Final Burn Alpha version 0.2.94.98

Street Fighter Alpha 3 (US 980904) - sfa3.zip

V-Karin on Expert + Suvival mode.

You have to enable Suvival mode (or time release: light blue) cheat to get it to run properly.

--

Took me for ever to get all the set-ups recorded in one replay. But, I get about 8 different types of set-ups for her unblockable OTG VC.

See if you can count them all. ;)

Oh by the way, I switched FBA versions. I upgraded to 2.94.98 finally. And the rom is not the clone, just the regular SFA3.

Does anyone mind that I use final burn and post it here, even though this thread is supposed to be for kawaks?

Buttermaker
05-30-2004, 01:49 AM
Very nice recordings everybody.

Originally posted by Xenozip.
Does anyone mind that I use final burn and post it here, even though this thread is supposed to be for kawaks?
Not at all. I actually prefer FBA because it doesn't have the replay file name restrictions of Kawaks and you can double-click .fr files for easy playback (unless you need to enable cheats).

Xenozip.
05-31-2004, 11:10 AM
Great! Then here's another one. :D

Cheats Enabled :
Suvival Mode : Enabled

Final Burn Alpha version 0.2.94.98

Street Fighter Alpha 3 (US 980904) - sfa3.zip

V-Sodom on Expert + Suvival mode.

You have to enable Suvival mode (or time release: light blue) cheat to get it to run properly.

--

Nothing really special to say about this one. Except that I get a whole bunch of perfects.

My biggest suprise was that I was actually able to get his triple buster OTG VC to work more than once. :o

Think I'll work on Rose next.

Buttermaker
05-31-2004, 03:00 PM
That was an impressive run through the survival mode. Well done!

What kind of controller do you have?

Xenozip.
06-01-2004, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Buttermaker
That was an impressive run through the survival mode. Well done!

What kind of controller do you have? Thanks. :)

But, keep in mind that you are only seeing the sucsessful run. So, I think it was more "lucky" than "impressive". :D

Plus the computer AI is so abusable. If you wanted to see me flat out own the computer AI though, I could make a few Chun-Li recordings (fear her broken psycho ass).

Anyway, I have 2 controllers.

One is a Thrust Master game pad which no one makes any more. It has 12 buttons and no analog. USB connection.

The other is a Saitek P2500 rumble game pad, which has 10 buttons plus 2 analog sticks -- which can act as either buttons or directions. USB connection.

No arcade stick. Too expensive. :(

psycore
06-01-2004, 08:52 PM
Well, its been a long time since i played with this big mothafucka... but i still remember how to play him well, and with my cc skills i have no prob beating the "OH SO EXPERT" Cpu... k, now enjoy.

Btw Xenozip., can u post fba cheats?

Xenozip.
06-01-2004, 09:57 PM
Nice work with Birdie.

The attachment on this post has just the SFA/Z cheat files in it (due to size restrictions).

Those cheat files should work for all versions of FBA (and probably regular FB also).

Just place in them in your "cheats" folder.

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Cheats archive: fba-cheats (http://members.cox.net/ldu_808/fba-cheats.zip)

Cheats forum: http://www.ojko.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=23

psycore
06-02-2004, 04:37 AM
thx dude... now i will see ur rec.

bowiegranap
06-06-2004, 07:58 PM
Can someone make a Kawak replay of Zangief's glitchdriver? I've never been able to replicate it consistently.

Xenozip.
06-06-2004, 08:04 PM
Cheats Enabled :
Time Release: Light Blue
Survival Mode: Enabled

Final Burn Alpha version 2.94.98

Survival mode + Expert diffaculty.

Four replays: V-Ism, A-Ism, X-Ism, and Classic Mode Chun-Li.

The "Time Release" cheat has to be set to "Light Blue" in order for the replays to work (because one of them is survival mode AND classic mode).

I get perfects on every character in all 4 replays. If I get hit, then the replay isn't running properly.

.... Yes. Chun-Li is broken.

Buttermaker
06-07-2004, 01:28 AM
That was fun to watch. Well done.

Xenozip.
06-09-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Buttermaker
That was fun to watch. Well done. Thanks, took forever.

There's really only a few chars I can get 100% perfects with.. Chun-Li being one of them..

Xenozip.
06-09-2004, 05:44 PM
Cheats Enabled :
Time Release: Light Blue
Survival Mode: Enabled

Final Burn Alpha version 2.94.98

Survival mode + Expert diffaculty.

V-Ism Juni

Again: The "Time Release" cheat has to be set to "Light Blue" in order for the replay to work. Because I choose Juni by entering the code (oldschool style).

--

I don't think I did her mid-screen VC in this one, but I did most of her corner stuff.

Juni > Cammy.

[Edit]: Ooops, of corse I did her corner VC.

The Prophitt
06-09-2004, 07:06 PM
Here are a few VRyu replays I made. I am adjusting to the keyboard. VAkuma is my main but I can't do shit on keyboard with him.

EDIT: It's for kawaks

The Prophitt
06-10-2004, 04:09 PM
Not so special but an XRyu combo I recorded.

The Prophitt
06-12-2004, 08:10 AM
VRyu mid screen CC I done. I started it from a techable set up, so shoot me.

Muskau
06-20-2004, 05:29 AM
Nice stuff Xenozip. Yes, Chun-Li is a whore and yes, survival is just luck on expert.

The Prophitt
06-21-2004, 11:59 AM
I love VAkuma, I managed to do a little with a keyboard.

Xenozip.
06-28-2004, 03:37 AM
A-Guy and V-Gen.

Cheats: None (finally).

Final Burn Alpha version 2.94.98

Enjoy.

Xenozip.
06-28-2004, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by Muskau
Nice stuff Xenozip. Yes, Chun-Li is a whore and yes, survival is just luck on expert. How do you mean?

You suggest a lower diffaculty setting, or perhaps non-survival?

Buttermaker
06-28-2004, 09:54 AM
Great stuff once again. Keep the replays coming.

Iczer one
06-28-2004, 02:44 PM
Yeah Xenozip, your stuff is just SICK :D
Lovin' the new ones, Juni, Chun x4 ...
Your execution is perfect in all of them, must have taken you an eternity to make those raplays ... that or you have just some crazy crazy hands by default :D

Keep it comin', and .. Rose would be nice ;)

Middlekick
06-28-2004, 04:59 PM
Here are some R.Mika combos that I planned to use for a possible combo video.

Xenozip.
06-28-2004, 05:17 PM
Thanks for the feedback, it's appreciated.

Originally posted by Middlekick
combo video.

Middlekick: If you are doing a combo video, would you mind making a point to include my V-Gen and V-Rolento VCs?

All are posted on the last page in the V-Ism reborn thread.

It would mean a lot to me to see that V-Gen stuff passed around in a combo video. Especially his mid-screen into corner into infinite.

Skyl
06-30-2004, 01:26 AM
OK, i have just picked up Alpha 3 *again* recently. Back when I played the game, nobody use V-ISM in HK 'cuz no body figured out how powerful it is.

Anyway, I'm learning V-Gief, my friend use his beloved A-Guy, he's a bit rusty, but I still had a hard time beating him even though I got the more powerful character...

here's the replay of one of our match nights, pls tell me what i should do to totally own him :D

The Prophitt
06-30-2004, 07:23 AM
I watched it earlier. But, IIRC, you were not damage reducing supers. Were you? Guy's supers can be reduced quite a bit.

Xenozip.
06-30-2004, 08:35 AM
A-Rose and V-Rose.

Final Burn Alpha version 2.94.98 (sfa3 980904)

Cheats: None.

Enjoy.

--

Comments: I've been working with Rose for quite some time now, as she is one of my favorite characters ("Illusion!"). I think I finally created some stuff worth posting.

Warning: You might want to wear a pair of Depends™, if you watch these TS... J/K. :p

The Prophitt
06-30-2004, 01:57 PM
I have an urge to see those but I don't use FBA =( Can I ask why you favor it over Kawaks?

_MJ_
06-30-2004, 03:14 PM
kawaks 1.45 matches

_MJ_
06-30-2004, 03:20 PM
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_MJ_
06-30-2004, 03:29 PM
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_MJ_
06-30-2004, 03:43 PM
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Xenozip.
06-30-2004, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by The Prophitt
I have an urge to see those but I don't use FBA =( Can I ask why you favor it over Kawaks? You don't have to use it. You can just download it and watch whatever replays you want.

I mean damn, I hate kawaks and everything, but I have it on my comp and watch replays with it. I just don't use it.

From a programmers perspective, I just find kawaks to be disgusting garbage. And I also think FBA is very well written, nevermind the fact that it was written better than kawaks, of corse it was witten better than kawaks.

Basically, FBA is superior in every way. Gee, let's count the ways.

1) I can adjust the volume with a keypress.

2) Pausing while watching a play-back doesn't screw up the play-back.

3) The recordings can be named anything. I don't have to rename the recordings that other people make every damn time I want to watch some replays.

4) I can just double click on a recording, and bam, it loads the emu, the rom, and recording all for me.

5) Taking screen shots and sprite ripping is as easy as clicking a few buttons in FBA.

6) The code is written a hell of a lot better than kawaks.

And the biggest one of all :

7) I don't have to fucking PAUSE the emulation just to exit. FBA does that simple shit for me. :rolleyes:

Xenozip.
07-01-2004, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by _MJ_
kawaks 1.45 matches hahaha. :D

That Zangief taunt vs. Karin was the best! :lol:

Were you P1 or P2 in these recordings?

Buttermaker
07-01-2004, 05:56 AM
Xenozip: Excellent Rose replays. How about some A-Gen?

Iczer one
07-01-2004, 01:20 PM
A-Rose and V-Rose

I <3 j00, seriously :D

Rose is SO much fun to watch and play. That A-Rose illusion-craziness is classic, gotta love her for stuff like that. 26 hits vs. Rolento :D
You actually use some illusion tricks i do myself, eg. meaty close s.forward -> qcb x2 strong, but linking that super after c.short -> c.forward is news for me, thx for that ;)

Xenozip.
07-02-2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Buttermaker
Xenozip: Excellent Rose replays. How about some A-Gen? Thanks. Appreciate any feedback.

I'll try and get one of A-Gen done.
Originally posted by Iczer one
*snip* Hehe. Maybe because those two things you just mentioned happened to be her A-ism unblockables? Well, sorta... Minus the set-ups for them anyway.

That combo on Rolento was also just another variation on her stun/dizzy combo, too. It's funny though, when I sent that replay to my bro he called that combo on Rolento "Legenday" -- "Rose combo of the Century". He's another Rose fan, too. :lol:

But, despite how it looked, the overall damage was about the same as the other variations.

Xenozip.
07-06-2004, 01:29 PM
Looks like my A-Gen and V-Juni post got zapped.

These are the same ones as I posted on July 4th, just posting them again in case anyone missed them and wants them.

Attached A-Gen and V-Juni.

Final Burn Alpha version 2.94.98 (sfa3 980904)

Cheats: None.

Enjoy.

--

Comments were something like: Request #2 finished. Happy July 4th.

Juni owns you!

_________

And I posted my thanks in response to what Iczer One and Buttermaker posted.

Dash Cancel
07-17-2004, 08:49 AM
This is guy's 31 hit combo. I dont think any more hits are capable without implementing proximity cancelling (and i have neither the timing nor patience to pull that off in a combo). Has anyone here been able to perform the 40+ hit guy combo described in the All about sfa3 book?

I dont even understand the correct positioning needed for that combo let alone perform it :)

Xenozip.
07-17-2004, 02:02 PM
I can only get 38 un-flippable hits.

I don't think you can get more than 38 without allowing the opponent the opportunity to tech-flip.

And FYI. I had to use A-ism E.Honda as the dummy in order to do it, other characters would dizzy too quickly.

You can probably get 41 hits only if the opponent doesn't flip during the combo.

RoyalFlush
08-07-2004, 10:35 PM
hey i was just wondering is it possible to record online matchs through kairilla or no? also. kairlla doesn't work for me anymore. I was playing sfa3 online the past two days, and even some today, and then all of sudden when i go to net play and kairilla starts its basically freezes up, won't check for servers (can't even do anything in it). This is the same thing on mame 32 also. ) (playing games offline work fine.) anyone know how i can fix this, or was something for kairilla down? thanks for the help.

Nevermind to the second part.

Chunster01
08-30-2004, 11:32 PM
i was trying to see in kawaks the amazing vids of birdie but i just see it losing... do i have to do somenthing in my rom before watching these replays?

Xenozip.
08-31-2004, 03:44 AM
i was trying to see in kawaks the amazing vids of birdie but i just see it losing... do i have to do somenthing in my rom before watching these replays?
Which replays are you referring to?

Make sure the player didn't have cheats enabled during recording. If they did, you need to enable the cheats in order to watch the replay (like survival mode).

Subliminal UK
08-31-2004, 04:12 AM
hey i was just wondering is it possible to record online matchs through kairilla or no? also. kairlla doesn't work for me anymore. I was playing sfa3 online the past two days, and even some today, and then all of sudden when i go to net play and kairilla starts its basically freezes up, won't check for servers (can't even do anything in it). This is the same thing on mame 32 also. ) (playing games offline work fine.) anyone know how i can fix this, or was something for kairilla down? thanks for the help.

Nevermind to the second part.

To record online matches i'd recommend using final burn alpha. I believe you can click game/record input once the game has started. Mame has online recording options too, i believe you hold down left shift whiil clicking 'start game' in the kaillera text dialog. (though mame replay saves are massive comparitavely.)

If the server list keeps crashing, try deleting kaill