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Da Ninja
05-11-2004, 06:04 PM
Capcom have just announced a new fighter for PS2

This game will draw a number of fighters, each with their own particular style, from five separate classic 2D Capcom fighting games.

Hoonyo
05-11-2004, 06:22 PM
link?

edit: nm, i went to google and came up with something from gamespot. it says it's 1-4 players =\

Time_Stop
05-11-2004, 07:40 PM
And after Darkstalkers 3 to PSP...

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/

http://www.capcom.com/cfj/

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/screens.html?page=1

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/screens.html?page=2

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/screens.html?page=3

Who will be the first to talk about the sprites not being "high-res"?

And whoīll be the first person that complained about SNKP using sprites from previous games thatīll praise this one?

Thongboy Bebop
05-11-2004, 07:44 PM
For fuck's sake, WHERE IS ROSE?!

N - CVS2 sprites are garbage. There, I said it.

Superking
05-11-2004, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Time_Stop
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/

http://www.capcom.com/cfj/

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/screens.html?page=1

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/screens.html?page=2

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/screens.html?page=3

Who will be the first to whine about the sprites not being "high-res"?

And whoīll be the first person that complained about SNKP using sprites from previous games thatīll praise this one?


Umm, I think this game is a little different since it's taking different characters from different games and putting them in a new environment with their own style still kept intact (notice the superbars). Like how it's 3S Chunners vs Hauzer of Warzard, or CvS Ryu fighting Vampire Savior Felicia.


Regardless of the reused stuff, it's still better than the recent SNKP stuff (well SS0 and SS0S are awesome though XD). And these are still in production pics after all.


P.S. This game marks the return of WARZARD/RED EARTH!!!!!!! XD



EDIT: From Gamespot's little info thing:

This game will draw a number of fighters, each with their own particular style, from five separate classic 2D Capcom fighting games.
Category: Action > Fighting > 2D
Tech Information: 1-4 Players.


They originally meant to do it in the first place anyway and this 4 player mode sounds interesting. :D

SA.M'
05-11-2004, 08:01 PM
OH SNAP. Now that shit got my dick hard.

SSJGouKi
05-11-2004, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Time_Stop


Who will be the first to talk about the sprites not being "high-res"?

And whoīll be the first person that complained about SNKP using sprites from previous games thatīll praise this one?


it doesn't matter, capcom can reuse sprites 45,000 times and capcom fanboys will always try and defend them. Same goes with SNK fanboys. Fanboys will be fanboys. what do you expect?

AudioProject
05-11-2004, 08:02 PM
Where's Magneto? :)

FalconPain
05-11-2004, 08:03 PM
Actually, given Ryu's meter and red headband, he looks like he's based on his ST version. Guile's clearly his SFA3 incarnation, but he has the same meter. Hmm...
Good point with the different meters, though. Chun's clearly got the SF3 one. So if there are SF3 and ST and DS and Warzard, what's the fifth game?

YahnV
05-11-2004, 08:04 PM
Aww what the fuck!?

We want a new original fighter god dammit!






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Time_Stop
05-11-2004, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by SSJGouKi


it doesn't matter, capcom can reuse sprites 45,000 times and capcom fanboys will always try and defend them. Same goes with SNK fanboys. Fanboys will be fanboys. what do you expect?

I expect people to be consistent. If itīs bad for one company to do it, itīs bad for other too. If you defend SNKP, you have to defend Capcom in this one too. If you bash SNKP, you have to bash Capcom in this one too. The guys that reply to SNK threads with wonderful comments as "same old shit"... What are they going to say about this one?

I guess they will find a way of magically making this somehow "better".

Personally, i donīt care about how old sprites are. They can have the old Morrigan for all i care (can anyone recognize the Felicia sprite? Old or new?).

EDIT: How long has it been since CVS2?

blackadde
05-11-2004, 08:19 PM
2D, Capcom, fighter, %$!$

JAMMAR
05-11-2004, 08:19 PM
Do you think Slammasters 2 counts as a fighting game? Maybe we'll see Haggar or something. That'd be wayyy too good.

Rasetsu
05-11-2004, 08:21 PM
SNKP had 6 months to try to freshen up Neowave. Capcom had anywhere from 3-5 years to freshen up the sprites. Let's hope Capcom goes for original gameplay in this, unlike Neowave/2K2+. :rolleyes:

Still though, they seriously need to ditch the Alpha/Marvel Vs. sprites. And if they don't put in a new Morrigan sprite... :mad:

Kayin
05-11-2004, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by blackadde
2D, Capcom, fighter, %$!$

Shin-RoTeNdO
05-11-2004, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by AudioProject
Where's Magneto? :)

:lol:

Fatghost28
05-11-2004, 08:43 PM
That's the same old Felicia sprite.

Hopefully the old sprites are place holders and will be replaced with at least sprites that match up to the latest CvS2 re-designed sprites.

Obot64.com
05-11-2004, 08:53 PM
:( looks like capcom jamed some bs together.... It will still sell though.
was this made by capcom usa? or was it made by the real capcom?

Nocturnal
05-11-2004, 09:01 PM
Where's Magneto...you mean where is Sentinel :). Well hopefully they will take their time with this game and actually make it some what balanced. Though these days that doesn't seem like it will happen...well you can only hope. Either way once it's out I will end up playing it anyways. Later.

Jaime

Superking
05-11-2004, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Jammar
Do you think Slammasters 2 counts as a fighting game? Maybe we'll see Haggar or something. That'd be wayyy too good.


If that were to be, then only Mike Haggar would be playable since he's the only Capcom character in Slam Masters/Muscle Bomber. The Slam Masters/Muscle Bomber characters are owned by Tetsuo "Hokuto no Ken" Hara and are not the property of Capcom sadly. Hell you even see his name as a copyright on all the Slam Masters/Muscle Bomber games and that's why SM/MB stuff is always only in Tetsuo Hara related junk and never in ANY Capcom goodies like in artbooks and etc...


P.S. PLEASE CAPCOM, BRING BACK THE SCORPION/ASTRO, DO ANYTHING TO GET THOSE GUYS BACK!!!! :D

Time_Stop
05-11-2004, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Rasetsu
Let's hope Capcom goes for original gameplay in this, unlike Neowave/2K2+. :rolleyes:


Original gameplay? NeoWave, like this game, has different "grooves" from previous games.

At least we know that NeoWave has a new feature, "heat mode".

Rehash here, rehash there.

JAMMAR
05-11-2004, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Kyoji


P.S. PLEASE CAPCOM, BRING BACK THE SCORPION/ASTRO, DO
ANYTHING TO GET THOSE GUYS BACK!!!! :D

WHOO SCORPION

Wasn't he the one with the "championship title"?

Xenozip.
05-11-2004, 09:18 PM
Hehe. I wonder if the ratio between all the people who complain about capcom "Re-using old sprites" would be equivalent to the ammount of fans/fanboys complaining that "They screwed up [inset character name here]! Why did they change [him/her/it]?".

Because honestly, I've seen people get totally outraged when they change a character even in the slightest (like hair color, bust size, clothing, accessories, etc).

And yet, when they keep the character the same then people whine, moan, yawn, and complain.

Superking
05-11-2004, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Jammar


WHOO SCORPION

Wasn't he the one with the "championship title"?


Yeah he was, but in Slam Masters 2 Ring of Destruction, CWA Great Victor Ortega came back and was the Champion. I think Scorp was still the BWA champion though.


Scorp is too bad ass and that guy was too much, he had a cool teleport to boot too. :D

Master Chibi
05-11-2004, 09:32 PM
Holy shit motherfuckers, Felicia's in this game.

I am fucking sold.

:D

Time_Stop
05-11-2004, 09:35 PM
Warzard sprites seem to be the old ones too:

http://www.system16.com/capcom/hrdw_cps3.html

http://www.arcadebase.de/warz.htm

VManOfMana
05-11-2004, 09:54 PM
Let's see if I get it...

We got Vampire Saviour, CvS2, SF3 and A3 sprites in the same game?

I have the impression that Chun Li's kikoken sprite is not exactly the same as Third Strike. Is it me or that is the 3S kikoken sprite drawn in a CvS2 style? What I am trying to say is that I have the impression that they are doing some sort of 3S Chun Li based on her CvS2 sprites.

Maj
05-11-2004, 09:59 PM
Aside from the new characters, there isn't much that can be said about what sprites are going to be used. These look like copy and paste jobs more than anything else. Does anyone remember the first CvS screenshots that came out? Using the Parry bonus stage in 3S and shit? Just wait till the game comes out before you guys start talking shit and acting all high and mighty.

VXē
05-11-2004, 10:01 PM
X-Box port plz

Also, with there being so many WarZard characters (playable 4 + bosses), I wonder which ones will make it into this game. We've already seen a boss as playable (Hauzer), so they won't go the lazy way out and just put the original 4. I just hope Mai-Ling/Tao makes it...(Chun vs Tao intro!)

Plus, with Warzards getting more exposure beyond Tessa/Tasaba, maybe we can hope for WarZards/Red Earth console port finally.

Time_Stop
05-11-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Majestros
Aside from the new characters, there isn't much that can be said about what sprites are going to be used. These look like copy and paste jobs more than anything else. Does anyone remember the first CvS screenshots that came out? Using the Parry bonus stage in 3S and shit? Just wait till the game comes out before you guys start talking shit and acting all high and mighty.

New characters? Where?

And youīre saying they added two new backgrounds and a CVS2-style frame to Chun-li just for those "temp" shots? Suuure. :rolleyes:

Xenozip.
05-11-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by VManOfMana
Let's see if I get it...

We got Vampire Saviour, CvS2, SF3 and A3 sprites in the same game?

I have the impression that Chun Li's kikoken sprite is not exactly the same as Third Strike. Is it me or that is the 3S kikoken sprite drawn in a CvS2 style? What I am trying to say is that I have the impression that they are doing some sort of 3S Chun Li based on her CvS2 sprites. When has capcom not screwed with/changed chun's kikoken?

And if it's not the kikoken then it's her other moves.

Her kikoken isn't really a good indication to how she will be played.

AzN_Skater
05-11-2004, 10:42 PM
Wow, the prelim shots look like ass.

EDIT: Nice to see Hauzer and the warzard crew getting some face time for once.

Maj
05-11-2004, 10:47 PM
http://www.silicio.com.br/games/playstation/games/NSK_vs_capcom/telas.html

Those were the early CvS screenshots. As you can see, the final game looks nothing like those. They didn't even end up using that Ryu sprite.

The power bars and shit in the Capcom Jam screenshots look hella basic and not polished/finalized at all. The character portraits look like someone took the official character art for the game and copy/pasted the heads into little gray boxes. This probably very very very early betas, maybe even just a bunch of photoshopped sprites on what little of the game they have done, which so far only looks like backgrounds. The characters aren't even interacting.

So yeah, go ahead and speculate all you want. I'm not gonna waste my time talking shit with nothing solid to form an opinion on.

BlodiaVulcan5
05-11-2004, 10:47 PM
If Jojo or any of his crew (jojo's bizarre adventure) show up in this game, im fucking sold.

Oh and bring on Donovan. :*

Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose
05-11-2004, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Thongboy Bebop
For fuck's sake, WHERE IS ROSE?!




Agreed 10000% One of Capcom's bette chars, and she gets dumped pn the most:bluu:

CPS_3
05-11-2004, 11:04 PM
Time_stop, could you please quit your whining.

I would also say that these are just beta screens(like the ones from CvS) because some have shadows(real shadows btw :P) and some don't. I'll wait with my judgement till I see actual footage of the game.

Xenozip.
05-11-2004, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose
Agreed 10000% One of Capcom's bette chars, and she gets dumped pn the most:bluu: Ditto.

I also think Rose has a valid/important storyline.

She's also charismatic, different, and cool looking... And hot.

Though, she does look like a school teacher for some reason.. Maybe 'cuz she looks like my 5th grade school teacher did (who was hot too).

Time_Stop
05-11-2004, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by CPS_3
Time_stop, could you please quit your whining.

I would also say that these are just beta screens(like the ones from CvS) because some have shadows(real shadows btw :P) and some don't. I'll wait with my judgement till I see actual footage of the game.

Iīm doing the exact same as you guys do in SNKP threads. Actually, iīm being nicer, because i didnīt call it "shit" right off the bat like you people do.

NONE of you say "itīs a temp shot, letīs wait for footage" when a SNKP pic shows up.

Hypocrites, thatīs what you are. :lol:

blackadde
05-11-2004, 11:16 PM
'you people'

Xenozip.
05-11-2004, 11:21 PM
Blah, blah-blah. Why care about graphics so much?

Graphics are over-rated IMO. If I cared about graphics I'd play 3D (parish the thought).

I just want to play it... Like right now. :D

CPS_3
05-11-2004, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by Time_Stop


Iīm doing the exact same as you guys do in SNKP threads. Actually, iīm being nicer, because i didnīt call it "shit" right off the bat like you people do.

NONE of you say "itīs a temp shot, letīs wait for footage" when a SNKP pic shows up.

Hypocrites, thatīs what you are. :lol:

I haven't posted in a single kof thread cause I don't care about KOF and even if I would have, I'm sure I wouldn't have pestered everybody that has even something remotely positive to say.

I'm not asking you to stop voicing your opinion, I just ask you to please stop quoting everybody that doesn't say "OMG SUX!"

thedude.com
05-11-2004, 11:23 PM
i fear it might be fake

DVS1
05-11-2004, 11:27 PM
I at least would like 2D fighters to have graphics that doesn't resemble the 90's. But oh well I'm not TOO much of a graphics whore.

I'm not asking you to stop voicing your opinion, I just ask you to please stop quoting everybody that doesn't say "OMG SUX!"

What can you expect? Gouki and Stop are the dedicated anti fanboy/mvc2 police.

Xenozip.
05-11-2004, 11:30 PM
Well I know a lot of people play and love MvC2 and you know they reused graphics.

CvS2 reused graphics and got complained about, but people still play it anyway.

3s didn't re-use any, and you know how long it took for THAT game to catch on/become popular?

So, w/e.

rook
05-11-2004, 11:30 PM
"from five separate classic 2D Capcom fighting games."


1. Street Fighter (Ryu, Chun-Li, Guile)
2. Darkstalkers (Felicia)
3. Warzard/Red Earth (Leo, Hauzer)

neither Power Stone nor Star Gladiator are 2D fighting game franchises... what other 2D fighting game franchises does Capcom have?

4. VS series? (eg; Captain Commando, Strider, Megaman, etc?)
5. ?

unless they go bastard on us and call SFA, SF2 & SF3 separate fighting games... >:P


<understatement>
these screenshots have left me feeling less than thrilled. </understatement>

Sifu
05-11-2004, 11:31 PM
Those pics look very cut and paste... Wowz-r I can use photoshop layers cut and paste. In fact, besides the official art/backgrounds, I think that even I could have made the exact same photos in less than an 1/2 hour. Lol, hyping up a new game with less than one hours work of photoshop? Good ol' CAPCOM.

Funny how CAPCOM makes backgrounds first before they even begin on the actual game... is this a good sign? Or did they have some left over stages from CvS2 and actually haven't even started on anything besides character art...

Still, a new Capcom 2D fighter is a good thing. Anything to keep the scene alive is a good thing.

thedude.com
05-11-2004, 11:32 PM
sf3 3rd strike graphic is the graphic of the millenium ...

sf3 animation is unbeatable
cps3 for life

CPS_3
05-11-2004, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by thedude.com
i fear it might be fake

It already has a official capcom site(though there's only a "coming soon" there). :)

Rhio2k
05-11-2004, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by CPS_3
Time_stop, could you please quit your whining.

I would also say that these are just beta screens(like the ones from CvS) because some have shadows(real shadows btw :P) and some don't. I'll wait with my judgement till I see actual footage of the game.

Uh, dude? Everyone has shadows in these pics, except for the shots where both characters are jumping, in which case the shadows move so low on the screen that you can't see them.

CPS_3
05-11-2004, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by Rhio2k


Uh, dude? Everyone has shadows in these pics, except for the shots where both characters are jumping, in which case the shadows move so low on the screen that you can't see them.

Uhm I don't see chunlis or Hauzers shadow

Xenozip.
05-11-2004, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by CPS_3


It already has a official capcom site(though there's only a "coming soon" there). :) True, but some one might have saw that on the capcom site and said: "Hey! CFJ could mean anything! This is a great opportunity to go screw with some people!".

On the other hand -if it is a hoax- then it's well thought out and a lot of work went into it.

AzN_Skater
05-12-2004, 12:00 AM
Time_Stop is my hero.

And all beta screens look like they came straight from MUGEN. haha.

Maj
05-12-2004, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by AzN_Skater
Time_Stop is my hero.

Why? For complaining in every post i've ever seen him make? For apparently hating the fact that people at a Capcom forum hate on not-too-promising SNK games, then doing it to a Capcom game the very first chance he gets? For calling people hypocrites when he's doing the same thing he claims to be making a point against?

This is fucking stupid. I'm just gonna wait till the game comes out. Fanboy speculation is the most effort-intensive total waste of time ever.

thedude.com
05-12-2004, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Majestros


This is fucking stupid. I'm just gonna wait till the game comes out. Fanboy speculation is the most effort-intensive total waste of time ever.

if more fanboy speculation , S-C.com is the place you want to be with .

Xenozip.
05-12-2004, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Majestros
Why? For complaining in every post i've ever seen him make? For apparently hating the fact that people at a Capcom forum hate on not-too-promising SNK games, then doing it to a Capcom game the very first chance he gets? For calling people hypocrites when he's doing the same thing he claims to be making a point against? Time_Stop's slams are consistant, as you say. So technically not hypocritical.

Time_Stop was calling other people hypocites because they aren't consistant with their complaints (bashing snk, but not capcom).

In other words: Time_Stop wasn't attacking people who complain. Just attacking people who don't complain consistantly.

Originally posted by Majestros
This is fucking stupid. I'm just gonna wait till the game comes out. Fanboy speculation is the most effort-intensive total waste of time ever. Good point.

But I can think of a lot of effort-intensive wastes of time that are about as fun.

SilentNinja
05-12-2004, 12:42 AM
This is 101010101010100 times boring. I thought you idiots want a new 2D capcom fighter game....:lol:

On second thought, it's good to see the Red Earth characters getting some attention.

With the faggotry fanboy wars between HerV, SRK.com, S-C.com, etc. I'm in the isolation of this meaningless rant on an UNCOMPLETE game.

Just like ranting on blurry screenshots. Fuck this until the Master Ninja Tournament starts.

I wasn't bashing Street Fighter Anniversary Edition when it's all versions of SF2 vs Super Turbo just because they're rehashed sprites.

The concept of this new Capcom fighter is interesting. Just wait until a complete product shows more info, in-game footage, and all your pleasuring love of an almost dead fighting game franchise(Almost as dead as Tekken and Mortal Kombat) Sorry to sound so popularity assasination, but it's true. Do you think casual gamers give a damn about that?

Azrael
05-12-2004, 12:56 AM
I dunno, maybe it's just me, but I'd rather have a game with recycled sprites that plays great, than a game with shiny new sprites that plays like SvC. Or worse. Doesn't matter what the game will look like if no one is playing it.

Since arcades are dying and Evo is going console, I wonder if this game will be supported in the tournament scene? Maybe I'm just thinking way too far ahead.

Xenozip.
05-12-2004, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by Azrael-sama
*snip* You are my hero.

Love the words of wisdom site too, by the way.

Also, have you been back to a-cho lately?

DrumlinerJoe
05-12-2004, 01:18 AM
Graphics schmaphics. As long as there's a new 2d fighter out there I'm happy.

Rhio2k
05-12-2004, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by CPS_3


Uhm I don't see chunlis or Hauzers shadow

Then you be blind. I put ragged circles around them for you. Compare that with the pics frm Gamespot. The only additions I made were the blue fucked-up circles (rush job, I'm about to go to work).

thedude.com
05-12-2004, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by Rhio2k


Then you be blind. I put ragged circles around them for you. Compare that with the pics frm Gamespot. The only additions I made were the blue fucked-up circles (rush job, I'm about to go to work).

yeh ! i saw that !

AzN_Skater
05-12-2004, 03:06 AM
Hahaha. I see shadows. Those blue lines aren't too helpful. You can barely see them.

CPS_3
05-12-2004, 03:07 AM
My monitor was to dark :P but now I see them thx.

Capcom has announced today that it will be releasing a new 2D fighting game titled Capcom Fighting Jam, which is scheduled for release in the Arcades, PlayStation 2 and Microsoft Xbox.

According to Famitsu magazine, "Capcom Fighting Jam" plays as an all-star game which features characters from a number of Capcom's past fighting game releases. 11 characters are confirmed to be in the game thus far, one of which in particular is Ingrid from Capcom's unreleased title, Capcom Fighting All Stars. The other characters confirmed to be in the game goes as listed below, with two characters appearing from each title.

Not much is known about the game system in "Capcom Fighting Jam" so far. The title will play as a 2-on-2 team battle, but players can chose which character to use at the end of each round. The game also has different styles of power meter bars that match the various capcom fighting game titles , though it isn't known whether the styles can be picked freely or if they're fixed depending on the characters and the titles they debuted from.

Capcom Fighting Jam is currently 30 perent complete in development. No release date for either the arcade or home versions have been announced at the current time. Illustrations for the game and its screen images are drawn by ex-SNK artist, Shinkirou.


Vampire (Darkstalkers)
Demitri
Felicia

Streer Fighter Zero
Guy
Sakura

Warzard
Leo
Hauzer

Street Fighter II
Ryu
Guile

Street Fighter III
Yun
Chun-li

Capcom Fighting All Stars
Ingrid


from mmcafe

Golden_Gunman
05-12-2004, 03:38 AM
Any new Capcom game is great news, although i have to be honest and say that i would rather see a brand new game with brand new characters and fighting systems, than seeing Ryu, Chun and Guile put into the millionth Capcom game. Capcom should get busy working on SF4 if you ask me! Anyway i'll hold any judgement till this gets released, and i'm hoping i'll be pleasantly suprised.

ghostdog
05-12-2004, 04:05 AM
Looks like mugen.

Ok, so it's 30% complete, I'll wait with the serious remarks until I see the game in motion... but DAMN I am getting tired of constantly seeing recycled sprites! This is not what 2d fighting needs in my not-so-humble opinion. Stagnant underground market as it is to me.

Sad part is, I will play it either way.

Buu
05-12-2004, 04:18 AM
This game looks fun.

Nokato
05-12-2004, 04:35 AM
Hopefully I don't sound like too much of a dick here but, you complaining sons of bitches need to shut the fuck up. The game isn't even necessarily that far from conceptual status. No beta test looms in the horizon at all just yet..30%. That's hella early for any game for all we know the game won't even look like this by the time its released. Just as someone posted here, during the time that CVS1 was up and coming the same types of screenshots started popping up everywhere and most players thought it was fake and it wouldn't come out. Low and behold CVS1 was completed. I understand people having opinions thats what the BBS is for but at the same time, no one's played the shit yet who knows if its bad yet or even if they are'nt making new sprites for the character. Since its been awhile since Capcom has actually brought out a new game I think it's pertinent that they do seeing as Capcom's adage of being the top aesthetic of the 2D realm has ended since the debut of Sammy.


I feel that everyone should just wait until the game comes out for the final verdict it actually might be a good game.

CPS_3
05-12-2004, 04:52 AM
http://www.pign.net/images/Temp_images/cfj/cfj1.jpg
http://www.pign.net/images/Temp_images/cfj/cfj2.jpg

Is that Ken in the background? Woah I guess that means, no playable Ken.

Master Chibi
05-12-2004, 04:58 AM
Christ I hope Hauzer doesn't take over Sagat's reign of being an overpowered bastard in the top tier club. I mean he's huge, bigger then Hugo even.

Still man, FELICIA IS IN THIS FUCKING GAME.

I'm going to be the best Felicia player ever!

You just wait!

:D

thedude.com
05-12-2004, 05:00 AM
hauzer's cute ...
shit ! felicia's cuter

about ken ...

capcom seem to be not wanting people to abuse him anymore .
yeh ! i saw it too !!

CPS_3
05-12-2004, 05:06 AM
In WarZard Hauzer has a Hulk like Armor the only difference is that it takes like 5 or 6 Hits to hit him down. I'm curious how they'll do that in this game.

KING
05-12-2004, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by CPS_3
In WarZard Hauzer has a Hulk like Armor the only difference is that it takes like 5 or 6 Hits to hit him down. I'm curious how they'll do that in this game. OH SHIT!:eek: :eek: :eek: BROKEN...:eek: :eek: :eek:

Ultima
05-12-2004, 05:19 AM
Jesus... This looks like the 2D equivalent to CFAS. And while it's a step in the right direction, I have to say that I don't care for what I see so far. The characters clash horribly, and I find the backgrounds to be distracting (the one with Ryu and Felicia is particularly bad - the way the road warps gives it this vertigo look that makes me sick; maybe it'll look better in motion).

The system sounds strange so far. It's like a cross between CvS2 and Project Justice. I hope you won't be limited to rigid teams, and if characters are locked into certain grooves (as I suspect they are this time), I hope you can at least mix n' match.

The cast needs to be GIGANTIC for this game to succeed. It's not a good sign that a lot of the more interesting characters have already been spotted in the background.

So far, expectations are low on this one. But if it's only 30% complete, there's still *some* hope left. I'd say it can't be worse than SvC, but we before we said that SvC couldn't be worse than CvS1, so I ain't saying a damn thing this time.... >:|

EDIT:

It's possible, like with the early CvS shots, that these are mock-ups, and the final version won't end up looking this awful. *crosses fingers*

PROFESSORLESTER
05-12-2004, 05:23 AM
Um has Capcom ever seen a GG game or has forgotten how they made 3s look so good,

urkangijordi
05-12-2004, 05:27 AM
I like the fact that Capcom is making a filler game. It's obvious to me that this game is being created to keep things going while Capcom put serious development into something else. That is why almost all the characters are cut and paste, and the cast is so small (of course the latter can change...). I think Capcom is just letting us know that they still intend on releasing 2D fighters.

My only problem is why no Atomiswave? A new arcade Capcom game would be just what the doctor ordered. Even if it is just a filler game.

SilverGear
05-12-2004, 05:32 AM
I heard in El Paso they already have CFJ installed in a cabinet.

You can pick Sol Badguy by highlighting Hauzer on the character select screen then going left, right, left, left, left, right, left, right, right, up, down, down, left, then hold down the start button for 5 seconds and hit kick.





:lol:

caliagent#3
05-12-2004, 05:42 AM
Time stop is saying people should be consistent when complaining about reused sprites, but the thing is that the SNK character sprites are horrible. Most of them have NO animation to their moves. It's like they teleport across the fucking screen. Honestly i don't think anyone would mind if SNK reused sprites as long as they put some fucking animation in them. Capcom made iori looks so good in CVS, y can't SNK do the same? His movements actually look fluid instead of being robotic and unnatural. That's the real reason y everyone complains about SNK sprites, their animation is HORRIBLE.

Nokato
05-12-2004, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by caliagent#3
Time stop is saying people should be consistent when complaining about reused sprites, but the thing is that the SNK character sprites are horrible. Most of them have NO animation to their moves. It's like they teleport across the fucking screen. Honestly i don't think anyone would mind if SNK reused sprites as long as they put some fucking animation in them. Capcom made iori looks so good in CVS, y can't SNK do the same? His movements actually look fluid instead of being robotic and unnatural. That's the real reason y everyone complains about SNK sprites, their animation is HORRIBLE.


Amen to that shit

Space Lion
05-12-2004, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by urkangijordi
I like the fact that Capcom is making a filler game. It's obvious to me that this game is being created to keep things going while Capcom put serious development into something else. That is why almost all the characters are cut and paste, and the cast is so small (of course the latter can change...). I think Capcom is just letting us know that they still intend on releasing 2D fighters.

My only problem is why no Atomiswave? A new arcade Capcom game would be just what the doctor ordered. Even if it is just a filler game.

That's one of the more sensible posts I've read in this thread.

Honestly, I don't care about the visuals. Things like sprite quality and animation can be improved later in the game's development, anyway.

I see Guile there. I see Leo there. The cast will only get larger. I'm already sold. :D

Hanzou
05-12-2004, 06:09 AM
A new Capcom 2D fighter is good news. Can't wait to play it.

But geez, some more characters would be nice....

psycho kid
05-12-2004, 06:10 AM
They can keep the same CPS 3 sprite and those cvs characters like bison and ryu, BUT OMFG DO SOMETHING ABOUT VS AND ESPECIALLY ALPHA SPRITES. :lame:

FalconPain
05-12-2004, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by CPS_3, quoting Madman's Cafe
Street Fighter III
Yun
Chun-liHey, what do you know? The only two Street Fighter 3 characters to have already been redrawn for non-SF3! (Other than Pocket Fighter's Ibuki, but I'm hoping for at least SOME congruity.)
I'm guessing "not SF3-quality graphics".

Ultima
05-12-2004, 06:17 AM
*looks at new pics*

Hmmm. This seems to be too far along for those shots to be simple mock ups. So much for that idea...

One thing I have to say, it's art by Shinkiroh that *gasp* I actually like! Maybe it's because it doesn'tl look like every single other piece of artwork she's ever done! It looks like more traditional artwork than her normal "painting"" style and I like it a lot. Also the poses aren't as static and lifeless as usual.

Well, if there's nothing else good about this game, at least the artwork is nice. :D

Note: It may say that the characters are aken from 5 classic 2D series, but Ingrid's in there, so that means it's possible that a few other 3D-based characters (e.g. someone from Project Justice) might show up. *Someone* has to team up with Ingrid, after all...

Cast is still too small, though at least it's quite diverse at the moment. Needs at least 20 more characters, plz...

Majestros:

Is HerV working for you? I keep getting timeout errors trying to connect there...

Fatghost28
05-12-2004, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by FalconPain
Hey, what do you know? The only two Street Fighter 3 characters to have already been redrawn for non-SF3! (Other than Pocket Fighter's Ibuki, but I'm hoping for at least SOME congruity.)
I'm guessing "not SF3-quality graphics".

You can clearly see in the screen shots that Chun Li at least is using her Third Strike sprite, and not her CvS2 sprite.

Edit: Check out the color depth on Chun Li's thighs. Definately not her CvS2 sprite.

Nokato
05-12-2004, 06:29 AM
Can honestly anyone say they've played the game yet? When its released its understandable to post a final verdict. Its not anywhere near finished. Just play Mugen in the meantime

seba_boi
05-12-2004, 06:40 AM
I think the pics are just a mock up and may not neccessarily be the final product...

Burning Ranger
05-12-2004, 06:43 AM
While Capcom Fighting Jam seems to be a good idea, I think Capcom could have done this a lot sooner.

Back in 1994, SNK came up with a brilliant idea. They decided to make a fighting game that combined characters from two of their popular fighting game series at the time: Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting. Then, they decided to create new characters (Kyo, Rugal, Sports Team) for this game and add a 3-on-3 fighting system. What resulted was the King of Fighters series... and this game became so popular that for the next 9 years, a new KOF game would be released every year. And its still going.

Now, Capcom easily can do this, and for a while, it looks like Capcom might do it with Capcom Fighting All Stars (with new heroes D.D., Ingrid, etc). But CFAS got canned... and maybe this is the replacement. If Capcom can pull of a SFJ release every year, then it would be very cool.

But it's all too early to tell.

Superking
05-12-2004, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by BlodiaVulcan5
If Jojo or any of his crew (jojo's bizarre adventure) show up in this game, im fucking sold.


Like the Slam Masters, the JoJo series is not Capcom property and last I heard Capcom used up what was left of their partnership with Lucky Land on using GioGio (JoJo Part 5) for a PS2 game. So unless Capcom renews that, then like the Slam Masters, there won't be any JoJo characters in the game either.

AlphaDragoon02
05-12-2004, 06:46 AM
I don't give a damn about reused sprites, its done by Capcom, or any of that meaningless crap. What matters is this...


IT HAS BREATH OF FIRE CHARACTERS IN IT. :evil:

Finally, I get my chance to kick everybody's asses with Ryu or Fou-Lu, or any of the other badass BOF guys. Thus, I'm happy.

Adam Warlock
05-12-2004, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by AlphaDragoon02

IT HAS BREATH OF FIRE CHARACTERS IN IT. :evil:



It does? Who?

CPS_3
05-12-2004, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by AlphaDragoon02
I don't give a damn about reused sprites, its done by Capcom, or any of that meaningless crap. What matters is this...


IT HAS BREATH OF FIRE CHARACTERS IN IT. :evil:

Finally, I get my chance to kick everybody's asses with Ryu or Fou-Lu, or any of the other badass BOF guys. Thus, I'm happy.

Breath of Fire chars? What are you smoking? ... or am I missing something here?

SmoothCat
05-12-2004, 06:58 AM
sakura with v ism lol this game should be fun

Zazzarius
05-12-2004, 07:16 AM
currently i'm not impressed with the screenshots so far

gimme something that doesn't look like its out of mugen and then i'll take notice

Ultima
05-12-2004, 07:17 AM
> If Capcom can pull of a SFJ release every year, then it would be very cool.

Not if it looks like MUGEN-ish mish-mash rehash coming out the starting gate. There was a time when all the KoF sprites were new, you know. >:|

saberwolf
05-12-2004, 07:20 AM
Looks nice........

P-Chalk
05-12-2004, 07:35 AM
2d CAPCOM GOODNESS !!! THANK YOU JESUS....wait a sec.... AWW MAN Cammy is a background character not cool at all .....

god i hope she makes it in ....or if not her than Simone and Shiba from Cannon Spike...... Fallen Balrog would be a cool boss character too

Cammy or no Cammy im hyped for this one looks good so far.:)

kite raiser
05-12-2004, 07:36 AM
If capcom are just gonna sprite rip like playmore then I never understood why they don't rip their SF3 sprites

VXē
05-12-2004, 07:36 AM
Excellent, X-Box and Arcade release. Also, at least Ingrid's sprite is new. ;*

Well, it seems there's going to be only two WarZard characters, with them being the lamest of the bunch. :| I would have prefered Mai-Ling/Tao instead of Tao. Ah well...

I also don't like how they catergorized the characters. Personally, I think they should have done it by fighting/beat-em-up series instead of games, with like 4 characters each series. We can only hope for a shitload of secert characters.

BBCampbell
05-12-2004, 07:46 AM
First off: Honda, Ken, Maki & Cammy have been spotted as BG charas. Fucking weak. Also, only 2D fighters mean no Rival Schools/Project Justice charas. Fucking weaker...

At least it's a new 2D Capcom fighter though. However, unless there's an arcade release, this game will fail miserably. Any more word on cast members? So far we have

Ryu
Chun Li (sorry, Chun Li is a SF2 character. Unless you consider Ryu a SF3 character.)
Guile
Sakura
Guy
Felicia
Demitri
Yun
Ingrid
and two random jobbers from Warzard...

caliagent#3
05-12-2004, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by BBCampbell
First off: Honda, Ken, Maki & Cammy have been spotted as BG charas. Fucking weak. Also, only 2D fighters mean no Rival Schools/Project Justice charas. Fucking weaker...

At least it's a new 2D Capcom fighter though. However, unless there's an arcade release, this game will fail miserably. Any more word on cast members? So far we have

Ryu
Chun Li (sorry, Chun Li is a SF2 character. Unless you consider Ryu a SF3 character.)
Guile
Sakura
Guy
Felicia
Demitri
Yun
Ingrid
and two random jobbers from Warzard...

why the hell would u consider ryu an sf3 character??

haunts
05-12-2004, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Zazzarius

gimme something that doesn't look like its out of mugen and then i'll take notice

Sano
05-12-2004, 08:02 AM
I'm a sucker, I see Ryu and Chun-Li in a new Game I'm happy!

Of course, I like SVC for the same reason.

seba_boi
05-12-2004, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by P-Chalk
2d CAPCOM GOODNESS !!! THANK YOU JESUS....wait a sec.... AWW MAN Cammy is a background character not cool at all .....

god i hope she makes it in ....or if not her than Simone and Shiba from Cannon Spike...... Fallen Balrog would be a cool boss character too

Cammy or no Cammy im hyped for this one looks good so far.:) Don't forget L. Raptor (Zabel) is in the twisted bg... I bet Morrigan would be only present as a painting too... But I didn't see Cammy in any of the bgs...

Kabojjin
05-12-2004, 08:07 AM
Why the hell did they choose the crappies two out of the Warzard cast? And why are Warzard chars showing up in games all over the place all of a sudden? Are they hyping up a new Warzards game or what?

Well, hopefully more chars will be added over as the game progresses because that roster isn't looking very hot at all. But Guy returning is cool though.

Ultima
05-12-2004, 08:07 AM
The characters seem to be locked (?) into certain playing styles (note the different super meters), hence why Chun-Li is considered an SF3 here character (she uses the same super meter as Yun). Ryu has the same super meter as Guile, so they're either going to be SF2 or Alpha.

stubburn
05-12-2004, 08:11 AM
So is this supposed to be their 2d version/replacement to Capcom Fighting All Stars, or do they at some point still want to bring that 3d game out on the PS or something? Whatever, I'm curious what they'll do with "grooves" and balance issuse regarding the warzard character/s. I wonder if they'll throw some more obscure characters from games like AvP or something, like MvC1 assists...lol.

amodf
05-12-2004, 08:11 AM
http://www.capcom.com/e3_2004/cfj/cfj_ps2.doc

It's got 6 buttons! It's coming out this year! And I thought that the announced characters being the final list was just a joke... the game goddamn better have well over 20 characters, otherwise, what's the point?

Nokato
05-12-2004, 08:16 AM
Guy's in the shit and that causes me to await this game. I still people are passing judgement on a game thats not even out and is still being made. If it comes out this year that's dope I still people should just wait until it comes to say if it's crappy or not. More characters may be added, so many things can happen to this game. It isn't fair to make stuff concrete when no motherfucker in the thread has played it. So much whining over something that's not even out yet.

kane_warhead
05-12-2004, 08:23 AM
WTF?

Hauzer has the huge screen fireblast. Is this some kind of a VS game? Because I do know huge ass blast don't work in SF games.

shinobidj
05-12-2004, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Time_Stop


Iīm doing the exact same as you guys do in SNKP threads. Actually, iīm being nicer, because i didnīt call it "shit" right off the bat like you people do.

NONE of you say "itīs a temp shot, letīs wait for footage" when a SNKP pic shows up.

Hypocrites, thatīs what you are. :lol:

you mad doggie? this dude caught feelings cuz he came to a capcom site expecting people to be loving his favorite kof 19xx. of course people are gonna talk shit on snk, go to an snk site and they're gonna talk shit on capcom games cuz they didnt have enough alternate costumes and there wasnt anyone shooting green flames. we're all hypocrites, dont act like snk fans are above that or anything.

VManOfMana
05-12-2004, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by SilverGear
I heard in El Paso they already have CFJ installed in a cabinet.

You can pick Sol Badguy by highlighting Hauzer on the character select screen then going left, right, left, left, left, right, left, right, right, up, down, down, left, then hold down the start button for 5 seconds and hit kick.





:lol:

Oh yeah. The arcade scene over here rules. We also had an MvC3 beta test last week :P

Maj
05-12-2004, 08:56 AM
http://capcom.com has opened their E3 section. Just click on the banner at the top of the page. They have mostly the same screenshots as we've seen already, but the character art stuff is available now too.

Someone needs to be a homie and get the press login/password and kick down high-res artworks plus the secret video.

Ultima:
Been down for a couple of days i think. That kinda sucks for a gaming forum to be down around E3.

Gen2000
05-12-2004, 09:08 AM
Leo, I don't really mind but that T-rex like character making it instead of Tessa or even the that badass ninja that rips people's hearts didn't? Wow...

Oh well, knowing Capcom the first game will suck, then they will make a better version in the sequel(s).

CPS_3
05-12-2004, 09:15 AM
Direkt Links:

Screens:
http://www.capcom.com/e3_2004/cfj/cfj_screens.zip

Artwork:
http://www.capcom.com/e3_2004/cfj/cfj_art.zip

Dios <-X->
05-12-2004, 09:17 AM
id love to see the video on that site so we can see capcom fighting jam in action.

OrangeCat
05-12-2004, 09:53 AM
*Ahem*
30% complete

OC

CPS_3
05-12-2004, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by OrangeCat
*Ahem*
30% complete

OC

If that's a response to the Video request, there IS a video but only people with a press account can download it.

Havoc
05-12-2004, 10:10 AM
V-Sak?

Uh-oh.

Nokato
05-12-2004, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by CPS_3


If that's a response to the Video request, there IS a video but only people with a press account can download it.

A press account from ign?

kite raiser
05-12-2004, 10:14 AM
Is chun li sprite ripped from 3s? its hard to tell because of the pixellated images but she does her kikoko move in her 3s stance unlike her cvs2 ass in the air stance.

Would love to see a redrawn sakura, not this time alas

Motoki Imawano
05-12-2004, 10:17 AM
exciting yet disappointing. i'll wait before i judge. i'm hoping there will be secret charaters from different games than the one's mentioned. it'd be nice.:)

also, i want to say that the backgrounds look excellent. 2d hand drawn. excellent. a lot of things going on. thats what i like. fuck all that lets fight on a mountain on a secluded island in the middle of nowhere.:cool:

Nokato
05-12-2004, 10:25 AM
I swear I know I'm asking for too much but it would be nice to see people use common sense when they post instead of just randomly posting what comes to their mind without any logic going past 5 minutes in front of their face. But then again this is shoryuken.com.

ghostdog
05-12-2004, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Nokato Sakurazuka
I swear I know I'm asking for too much but it would be nice to see people use common sense when they post instead of just randomly posting what comes to their mind without any logic going past 5 minutes in front of their face. But then again this is shoryuken.com.

And it's big news with hundreds of people reacting at it at the same time. What can you expect?

Yeah, more thought behind posts is recommended, but in the case of a topic like this, you get flooded either way...

ssj2shingohan
05-12-2004, 10:51 AM
capcom announces CAPCOMŪ FIGHTING JAM FOR XBOX™

-Popular Characters From Five Classic Capcom Fighting Games Collide-

E3, LOS ANGELES May 12, 2004- Capcom, a leading worldwide developer and publisher of video games, today announced the ultimate 2D brawler with CapcomŪ Fighting Jam (working title) for the Xbox™ video game system from Microsoft. As the driving force behind the 2D fighting genre, Capcom's library includes a huge line up of fighting games, including the award-winning Street Fighter series which has sold more than 27 million units to date. The titles have popularized 2D fighting and have produced a world famous line-up of characters. Capcom has brought together popular characters from five classic titles in the Street Fighter and other Capcom series, for intense two-on-two player battles. Capcom Fighting Jam will also allow players to put their skills to the test in cross continent match ups via the Xbox Live™ online gaming service. Capcom plans to release Capcom Fighting Jam throughout North America in winter 2004.

Capcom Fighting Jam offers a diverse cast of players as well as additional hidden characters from each of the following titles: Street Fighter II, Darkstalkers, Street Fighter III, Red Earth and Street Fighter Alpha. Each character maintains their unique fighting style from their respective title, so players must strategically use each one's combat system to defeat that of their opponent as they square off in battle. With two-on-two action, gamers can mix and match their team from any of the different titles. The character change system allows players to choose a combatant for each round of the battle. Pitting the right competitor against the opponent based on the strengths of the fighting systems will be the key to victory.

"Capcom's fighting games have earned world wide respect and have elevated the industry standard to new heights over the years," said Todd Thorson, director of marketing, Capcom USA. "With an arsenal of established characters, time-honored control schemes and versatile options, Capcom Fighting Jam is a must have for any fighter fan."

Capcom Fighting Jam includes the following features:
Characters from 5 classic Capcom titles:
Street Fighter II - Ryu, Guile
Darkstalkers - Demitri, Felicia
Street Fighter III - Yun, Chun-Li
Red Earth - Leo, Hauser
Street Fighter Alpha - Guy, Sakura
Plus additional hidden characters!
Two-on-two team battles - Choose a character for each round of battle; strategically pick the combatant based on the opponent’s powers and weaknesses
Classic 6 button control scheme
Title specific combat systems - Characters maintain their original fighting styles from their specific titles
Several gameplay modes:
Arcade mode - Defeat CPU characters in set number of rounds to reach the ending
Vs. mode - Exclusive battle mode where the player selects the characters, handicap settings and stages
Survival mode - Choose to battle all characters from the game in one sitting or keep fighting enemies until you lose
Training mode - Practice a variety of techniques on CPU characters; even record and review your gameplay to improve your skills
Gallery mode - View character illustrations, endings and additional items earned by clearing the various game modes
Game Replay mode - Save and view replays of your favorite battles
Option mode - Change settings including difficulty, match time, key configuration and more
Xbox Live enabled - for heated online match ups against players from around the continent
__________________________________________
XBOX LIVE!!!!:eek:

Azrael
05-12-2004, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Xenozip.
You are my hero.

Love the words of wisdom site too, by the way.

Also, have you been back to a-cho lately?

Thanks. Yeah, I went to a-cho last week for some #R. Didn't do very well of course, but I didn't completely die so I guess I can be happy about that. Fighting against Japanese May's is a lot like slamming your head repeatedly into a brick wall, only far less fun. I think I can go back this weekend for more punishment.

On CFJ: Capcom kind of cheezed out on the character roster. I'm half happy and half disappointed with what I've heard so far.

Darkstalkers: THANK GOD NO MORRIGAN! I like her, but she's been pretty much the only character from that game used consistantly. While it would have been nice to give the nod to two of the other highly disregarded characters, like Jon Talbain or Hsien-Ko even, I have no complaints about Demitri and Felicia.

SFA: Guy is cool. He hasn't gotten any love since Alpha, and I felt he should have been in CvS2 instead of Maki. Sakura...bleh. She's been in almost everything since her debut in A2. Her spot could have been better used for someone else, like Rose, a completely cool character who has gotten no love. Even Karin or Gen would have been good too.

SF2: I guess a shoto is standard, and Ryu is the default choice. No real comment here. Although Guile took a LONG vacation after ST, we've seen him a lot lately. And we've had Charlie, who is similar after all. I would have rather seen this spot filled by someone else...preferably one of the New Challengers, as outside of Cammy they haven't gotten any love at all. My personal choice would be Fei Long.

SF3: Real cop-out here. They cheated - Chun-Li is SF2! Even though they're using her 3S incarnation, it doesn't really change the fact that its Chunners. And Yun is okay, but he was in CvS2 and I think we've seen enough of him in 3S to last a lifetime. I would have liked to seen some of the other 3S cast...Elena, Dudley, Remy, Ibuki....

But oh well. Like I said before, the most important thing is that it's a good fighter. And I'm not going to freak out about the roster too much. I don't get why people want more characters when the games that have 25+ characters now only end up seeing a handful of them actually get used.

kite raiser
05-12-2004, 10:57 AM
I'l glad the roster is small, hopefully it'll be nice and balanced

wow, another SF on xbox live? Too cool, excited enough about 3s as it is

Zandwich
05-12-2004, 11:00 AM
Hahahahhaha

http://www.the-sugoi.com/compose.php?Ndate=12052004&Nnum=10

Look at the screens at the bottom

N-Ken
05-12-2004, 11:01 AM
Just saw the video, looks mad cool. Looks like CC's return in some fashion, Chun can still tack on Jump fierces after super, which figures. At least VS characters also retain their ES's, free damage on knockdown! More than 20 characters is good, though my money is on Warzard chars with no balance.

Nokato
05-12-2004, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by N-Ken
Just saw the video, looks mad cool. Looks like CC's return in some fashion, Chun can still tack on Jump fierces after super, which figures. At least VS characters also retain their ES's, free damage on knockdown! More than 20 characters is good, though my money is on Warzard chars with no balance.

What do you have to do to get a press account?

N-Ken
05-12-2004, 11:09 AM
No press account needed, at least not for this vid.

Ask and ye shall receive, just sign up for a free gamespot basic membership, and voila, Capcomy goodness awaits!

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/media.html


EDIT: appears us cheap bastards can only stream, no biggie though.

Nokato
05-12-2004, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by N-Ken
No press account needed, at least not for this vid.

Ask and ye shall receive, just sign up for a free gamespot basic membership, and voila, Capcomy goodness awaits!

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/media.html


EDIT: appears us cheap bastards can only stream, no biggie though.

A hero you are. Thank you

1337Chappelle
05-12-2004, 11:23 AM
im not liking this small cast thing, there less than 20 chars. i hope theyd add some more because even after playing cvs2 i want different people to play with. oh ya and some NEW characters wouldnt be a bad idea either, filler game sounds like the right tag for this game

thats all im saying considering its only 30% done or w/e

kite raiser
05-12-2004, 11:26 AM
Doesn't that shitty gamespot downloader = spyware?

Think I'll wait for a mirror

N-Ken
05-12-2004, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Nokato Sakurazuka


A hero you are. Thank you


Thank you and your welcome.

Other guy, I just have one song for you:

STREAM IT! STREAM IT!!!

Nokato
05-12-2004, 11:43 AM
Just saw the trailer..it'd be nice if I could clearly see everything but from what I can tell they're pretty far in the process of making the game (eats crow for earlier posts). It does look a little fake , but all NAOMI 2D Capcom games do look at CVS2, and DC Third Strike. Gameplay is the huger issue at hand from what I can tell, theres not much to gather in terms of gameplay until a beta test but like all games that we're naive about, it looks promising. I just hope Guy is decent in this game. Anyways thats my rant.

Kikosho
05-12-2004, 11:44 AM
I'm excited for this game. A new Capcom fighter finally with Guy! That's awesome to say the least.

Fatghost28
05-12-2004, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by 1337Chappelle
im not liking this small cast thing, there less than 20 chars. i hope theyd add some more because even after playing cvs2 i want different people to play with. oh ya and some NEW characters wouldnt be a bad idea either, filler game sounds like the right tag for this game

thats all im saying considering its only 30% done or w/e

If they are reusing sprites, then they damn well better have 50+ characters in it.

If it's less than 20 characters, Capcom had damn well better redraw everyone.

quiche
05-12-2004, 11:48 AM
Personally, I'm not too upset about the graphics.
3S looks like pixelated crap in stills -- animation is where it's at.

Am I the only one who would like to see this game use the Marvel vs. engine? It's a great engine just screaming for a BALANCED fighter.

And yeah, the roster needs some growth (though I'll take a small balanced cast over a large one that's all over the map any day).

Some characters that need lovin':
Rose, Fei Long, Gallon (J. Talbain), Aulbath (Rikuo), Alex (for heaven's sake!), Necro (Dhalsim x 10), and what about some other capcom non-fighting game characters like Dante or Samanosuke (either one would rock my world!)

Oh, and if Ken's not in it, I'm gonna cry.

~Goodguy

Nokato
05-12-2004, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by SolGoodguy
Personally, I'm not too upset about the graphics.
3S looks like pixelated crap in stills -- animation is where it's at.

Am I the only one who would like to see this game use the Marvel vs. engine? It's a great engine just screaming for a BALANCED fighter.

And yeah, the roster needs some growth (though I'll take a small balanced cast over a large one that's all over the map any day).

Some characters that need lovin':
Rose, Fei Long, Gallon (J. Talbain), Aulbath (Rikuo), Alex (for heaven's sake!), Necro (Dhalsim x 10), and what about some other capcom non-fighting game characters like Dante or Samanosuke (either one would rock my world!)

Oh, and if Ken's not in it, I'm gonna cry.

~Goodguy

Well son, take the tough titty, he's in the background in one of the pics.

NeoChaosX
05-12-2004, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Majestros
Ultima:
Been down for a couple of days i think. That kinda sucks for a gaming forum to be down around E3. [/B]
Yeah, I wondered why all my attempts to access HerV were effective as the San Jose Sharks' defense right now. :lol:

EDIT: My guess is that it's purposely down so that nobody makes hundreds of theads about every new game that gets revealed at E3. Watch, HerV will be back up the day after E3 ends... ;)

This game looks cool, although the fact that it's in 2D to begin with means it probably won't win many new fans to fighting games, much appeal to a large mainstream fanbase...And that's Shinkiro's art for the characters? I couldn't tell.

Hoonyo
05-12-2004, 12:02 PM
And thanks to popular demand, there will be even more characters! Thank god. Add J. Talbain to that fucking cast.

BBCampbell
05-12-2004, 12:11 PM
No PS2 release?


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo.....:( :( :( :(

Havoc
05-12-2004, 12:12 PM
Reading is fundamental

Time_Stop
05-12-2004, 12:19 PM
Hey look, itīs Capcomīs official image set for the press, and itīs got the old sprites!

http://www.capcom.com/e3_2004/cfj/cfj_screens.zip

Hey look, itīs Capcomīs official video for the press, and itīs got the old sprites!

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/media.html

http://www.capcom.com/e3_2004/

Werenīt you guys "waiting for footage"? :lol:

Hoonyo
05-12-2004, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Time_Stop
Hey look, itīs Capcomīs official image set for the press, and itīs got the old sprites!

http://www.capcom.com/e3_2004/cfj/cfj_screens.zip

Hey look, itīs Capcomīs official video for the press, and itīs got the old sprites!

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/media.html

http://www.capcom.com/e3_2004/

Werenīt you guys "waiting for footage"? :lol: HEADS UP QUEER.

N-Ken
05-12-2004, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Time_Stop
Hey look, itīs Capcomīs official image set for the press, and itīs got the old sprites!

http://www.capcom.com/e3_2004/cfj/cfj_screens.zip

Hey look, itīs Capcomīs official video for the press, and itīs got the old sprites!

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/media.html

http://www.capcom.com/e3_2004/

Werenīt you guys "waiting for footage"? :lol:

I posted the video link in this thread an hour ago, quit being a biter:p

Clear Sky
05-12-2004, 12:28 PM
That link is useless since I can't download unless I pay to be their stupid member.

Hoonyo
05-12-2004, 12:31 PM
^watch tthe streaming version

Well since the trailer clearly states more than 20 characters, now's the time everyone starts making speculations on who's gonna be in or who isn't. I really hate this part :(

Fatghost28
05-12-2004, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Hoonyo
^watch tthe streaming version

Well since the trailer clearly states more than 20 characters, now's the time everyone starts making speculations on who's gonna be in or who isn't. I really hate this part :(

So it's only a few characters, and Capcom is STILL just recycling sprites.

:lame:

Kikosho
05-12-2004, 12:37 PM
Just saw the video. Awesome. Can't wait.

caliagent#3
05-12-2004, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Time_Stop
Hey look, itīs Capcomīs official image set for the press, and itīs got the old sprites!

http://www.capcom.com/e3_2004/cfj/cfj_screens.zip

Hey look, itīs Capcomīs official video for the press, and itīs got the old sprites!

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/capcomfightingjam/media.html

http://www.capcom.com/e3_2004/

Werenīt you guys "waiting for footage"? :lol:

Read my earlier post. At least their reused sprites have animation to them

Motoki Imawano
05-12-2004, 12:47 PM
mm. at least it doesn't look like it could go on snes.

Saqs
05-12-2004, 12:50 PM
Its on XBL as well :D

Hoonyo
05-12-2004, 12:52 PM
If it's less than 20 characters, Capcom had damn well better redraw everyone.
Well since the trailer clearly states more than 20 characters

So it's only a few characters, and Capcom is STILL just recycling sprites.
Quit being so fucking picky. I like the theory that Capcom is just releasing this as filler before they release something grander.

VManOfMana
05-12-2004, 12:59 PM
Just saw the trailer.

SF3 fluidity in the same screen with Alpha/Darsktalkers sprites = wrong.

Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose
05-12-2004, 01:03 PM
Isn't the little blond girl in the character art section from the defunct Capcom Fighting All Stars?

It is nice to see Guy vs Yun, though....

bl(4)de
05-12-2004, 01:06 PM
man wtf? why is capcom constantly over using their sprites!? fucking lazy ass nugguhz

Motoki Imawano
05-12-2004, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Hoonyo



Quit being so fucking picky. I like the theory that Capcom is just releasing this as filler before they release something grander. that theory sounds nice, but do you really believe it?
look at all the rehashes we got of sf2 before we got a sf3...

Kamui
05-12-2004, 01:07 PM
The video is not the most reassuring thing to watch right now. The screens are deffinately not Photoshop paste ups. It's only 30% complete, most of these things will hopefully change, but the hit detection in just the video seemed extremely sloppy. Backgrounds look generally awful, clash with the characters, and the sprites don't look remotely consistant with each other(obviously). The game very much looks like a mugen mock up.

Obviously Ingrid is in the game. I HOPE the other 2 CFAS original characters make it in. Would only make sense bieng as they aren't bieng used for anything else, game needs as many original characters as they can get.

I'm overly dissapointed. This does not seem like a good game for Capcom to come out of fighting game retirement with. Whether the game itself will be good or not deosn't matter at a stage where no one can play it yet, this is not a good a first impression.

Motoki Imawano
05-12-2004, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Kamui
Backgrounds look generally awful, clash with the characters,

explain. what would you have prefered the backgrounds to look like? i'm loving the backgrounds myself. for once its not in the middle of nowhere. i like to see a lot of things going on. makes it "prettier."

now the gameplay... ...we will see...

Hoonyo
05-12-2004, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Motoki Imawano
that theory sounds nice, but do you really believe it?
look at all the rehashes we got of sf2 before we got a sf3... i kinda do believe it. i'm faithful capcom's gonna release a bombshell like sf4 sometime =\

bl(4)de
05-12-2004, 01:14 PM
where can I watch the trailer for this shit?

Fatghost28
05-12-2004, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Hoonyo



Quit being so fucking picky. I like the theory that Capcom is just releasing this as filler before they release something grander.

They have SFAC for "filler."

bl(4)de
05-12-2004, 01:18 PM
I hope they redraw the sprites for ds3

Hoonyo
05-12-2004, 01:24 PM
While I don't necessarily want to defend them for using the same sprites, they're just taking the KOF way out by adding new characters (Ingrid, maybe the other 2 CFAS characters in this case) and using the same sprites for everyone else. As long as the game is competition-tested, I'm satisfied with it. It's not like Capcom is still using CPS3 for every game they make like SNK did with MVS. They went on to use NAOMI and other hardware to make stellar games like Omnimusha, Devil May Cry, etc.

In the end, I still stand behind the theory they're just using this game as filler for the fans and the competitive fighting game scene before they release a bombshell like a cel-shaded SF4. It's obvious their intention with this game wasn't to wow the crowd and attract new players. Blah blah blah

TalbainEric
05-12-2004, 01:35 PM
Bah. I'm pissed Talbain and Cammy didn't make the cut. And the casting so far doesn't really interest me,apart from Demitri and Leo.

T&C are in the BG's,but still....not enough....I can't even tell what Talbain's doing in those screens.

The backgrounds look awesome,though. I can't wait to see more.
And I'm really desperate for a new 2-D fighter. I'll probably play,but won't like it as much as past 2-D Capcom fighters.

Hoonyo
05-12-2004, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by TalbainEric
T&C are in the BG's,but still....not enough....I can't even tell what Talbain's doing in those screens. Tailbain is in the BG??? Nooooo there goes my hopes for him finally making an appearance in a crossover game :(

Which SS is it?

Maj
05-12-2004, 01:45 PM
Seriously, this game looks pretty horrible. I mean it's dope we're getting a new fighting game and i'm gonna hope it rocks just like i hoped everyone fell in love with CvS1 when i was playing the cpu alone during SHGL 128-man MvC2 tournaments. But right now, it's all choppy and ugly and nothing seems to be fluid and the whole thing reminds me of a bad beta of CvS1. As of now, Capcom Fighting Jam = SF Anniversary Edition: Background Expansion Pack. The backgrounds are the only thing that looks good so far.

And what the fuck is up with giving Sakura customs? That hooker is easy-mode without extra bullshit. I'm looking forward to having to play against the onslaught of Sakura-whores with Guile in what basically looks like X-Ism. Ugh.

I honestly hope i'm wrong about all of this.

UltraDavid
05-12-2004, 02:05 PM
If Guile and Ryu are in their Super Turbo incarnations, their supers are not going to be on par with the other characters' supers. Guile's ST super is that multiple flash kick thing, and while it does a lot of damage if it connects all its hits, it basically doesn't ever connect all its hits. And Ryu's ST super isn't one fireball that hits multiple times, it's multiple fireballs that hit once each, so when it's used as an antiar it'll juggle and not do all its damage. Neither of those supers bears any real comparison to Chun's Third Strike Houyokusen or Sakura's Alpha3 V-ism, for example.

If the VS characters can do that guaranteed damage on knockdown thing that you can do in the VS system, will the other characters be able to take advantage of things their system allows? Like are Chun and Yun gonna have EX moves? And are they gonna have parrying?

Also, you can see Ibuki is in the background, so no playable Ibuki here. I hope Vega is one of the "secret characters," and if he's in he better be in his Super Turbo version.

FlameAngelX
05-12-2004, 02:06 PM
Thank God Guy is in the game!!!

_MJ_
05-12-2004, 02:06 PM
lion king dude looks top tier :P

oh well i hope this turns out decent and not like fighting game all stars (which was canceled )

caliagent#3
05-12-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by UltraDavid
If Guile and Ryu are in their Super Turbo incarnations, their supers are not going to be on par with the other characters' supers. Guile's ST super is that multiple flash kick thing, and while it does a lot of damage if it connects all its hits, it basically doesn't ever connect all its hits. And Ryu's ST super isn't one fireball that hits multiple times, it's multiple fireballs that hit once each, so when it's used as an antiar it'll juggle and not do all its damage. Neither of those supers bears any real comparison to Chun's Third Strike Houyokusen or Sakura's Alpha3 V-ism, for example.

If the VS characters can do that guaranteed damage on knockdown thing that you can do in the VS system, will the other characters be able to take advantage of things their system allows? Like are Chun and Yun gonna have EX moves? And are they gonna have parrying?

Also, you can see Ibuki is in the background, so no playable Ibuki here. I hope Vega is one of the "secret characters," and if he's in he better be in his Super Turbo version.

THey obviously are not gonna take the ST conversions. Ryu's super is gonna be like it is in CVS, and the same with guile. THe only reason y they say ST i think, is becuase CVS combo engine resembles ST's. With all the crazy links and what not. And clearly chun is straight up SF3, i saw some low forward madness in the vid. Personally i'm excited, becuase it mixes different style of playing, and i'm interested in seeing how they pull it off.

SSJGouKi
05-12-2004, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by caliagent#3


Read my earlier post. At least their reused sprites have animation to them

caliagent, you sound like a total typical capcom fanboy, the whole point is capcom is reusing sprites. THATS THE POINT. not because of animations. for years capcom fanboys have been taunting, making flame threads, interrputing SNK threads about crappy snk graphics and reused sprites. stop being such a fanboy! In the end fanboys are fanboys. Each side will defend the other no matter what. so everyone just shutup about taking sides here. enjoy the 2D age while it lasts!!!!

TalbainEric
05-12-2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Hoonyo
Tailbain is in the BG??? Nooooo there goes my hopes for him finally making an appearance in a crossover game :(

Which SS is it?

He's in the background with the painting of Morrigan. He appears in the far left corner of the screen,it appears as if he's hanging upside down or something. Can't tell.

colguile
05-12-2004, 02:38 PM
Online...?

moonslash-dan
05-12-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by TalbainEric


He's in the background with the painting of Morrigan. He appears in the far left corner of the screen,it appears as if he's hanging upside down or something. Can't tell.


no, thats lord raptor....

TalbainEric
05-12-2004, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by moonslash-dan



no, thats lord raptor....

Yeah,he appears on the right of the Morrigan painting. Look to the far left of the new screens that are out and Talbain's right there.

TrueSephiroth
05-12-2004, 02:49 PM
Sorry peeps if this was asked before, but where can I download a vid of this in action, I know you can get it at gamespot, but you have to be like a freakin elite member to download it...which is stupid.

Anyhelp would be great, also, the game looks pretty good, I've been seriously waiting for Capcom to bring a new fighting game into the picture.

Saotome Kaneda
05-12-2004, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by UltraDavid
If the VS characters can do that guaranteed damage on knockdown thing that you can do in the VS system, will the other characters be able to take advantage of things their system allows? Like are Chun and Yun gonna have EX moves? And are they gonna have parrying?


Each "group" will have specific "groove" advantages. 3 series will have Parrying, Universal Overheads, and the like, Alpha is using V-ism and other shit, etc.

Xenozip.
05-12-2004, 03:13 PM
They did say "plus secret characters".

I wonder if those background characters are unlockable.

Reminds me of 3S where Yang is standing in the background on Yun's stage.

Unlocking chars has always been a thing with capcom. Take a look at MvC2 for example where there were **MORE** unlockable characters than there were starting characters.

caliagent#3
05-12-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by SSJGouKi


caliagent, you sound like a total typical capcom fanboy, the whole point is capcom is reusing sprites. THATS THE POINT. not because of animations. for years capcom fanboys have been taunting, making flame threads, interrputing SNK threads about crappy snk graphics and reused sprites. stop being such a fanboy! In the end fanboys are fanboys. Each side will defend the other no matter what. so everyone just shutup about taking sides here. enjoy the 2D age while it lasts!!!!

:lol: , i think just wanted an excuse to use the word fanboy. What i said has nothing to do with likeing or hating capcom/snk, what i saidi s the truth. As much as i like kof2k2 or 2k1 the animation is garbage and the sprites look horrible. At least capcom reuses sprites that look decent and actually have animation

rusbar
05-12-2004, 03:20 PM
i didn't feel like reading all of this so if someone posted something along this then i don't care.

but why do people think those shots are are from mugen. from my understanding, warzard/red earth was created using the cps3 engine along with sf3 and all other sf3 incantations. and if cps3 has never been emulated, and since warzard/red earth has never been ported, at least to my knowledge, then wouldn't it be impossible for this game or at least those images w/ the warzard/red earth characters to be a fake then? how would they rip the sprites, and where would they have access to them?

that is unless they have the actually have the game cabinet.

Adam Warlock
05-12-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by rusbar
i didn't feel like reading all of this so if someone posted something along this then i don't care.

but why do people think those shots are are from mugen. from my understanding, warzard/red earth was created using the cps3 engine along with sf3 and all other sf3 incantations. and if cps3 has never been emulated, and since warzard/red earth has never been ported, at least to my knowledge, then wouldn't it be impossible for this game or at least those images w/ the warzard/red earth characters to be a fake then? how would they rip the sprites, and where would they have access to them?

that is unless they have the actually have the game cabinet.

They're not saying it's FROM Mugen; they're saying it looks horrible, and given the sprites, the same thing could be done with Mugen.

Jinrai
05-12-2004, 03:28 PM
Judging by the video, the SF3 sprites have lost a lot of frames; see Chun's overhead kick and Yun's command grab. Makes me wonder why they bothered redrawing them for CvS2 in the first place.

Also, there's quite a bit of slowdown when Guy jumps at Hauzer. It's nearly as bad as when big characters roll in the car-crash stage of CvS1. Hopefully that'll be fixed...

On the bright side, Sagat's in a background. ;)

kite raiser
05-12-2004, 03:35 PM
You can dowload the trailer from ign and save it. No need to install lamespot spyware crap just to see a stream.

I really like the character roster, it small and full of characters I like

SSJGouKi
05-12-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by caliagent#3


:lol: , i think just wanted an excuse to use the word fanboy. What i said has nothing to do with likeing or hating capcom/snk, what i saidi s the truth. As much as i like kof2k2 or 2k1 the animation is garbage and the sprites look horrible. At least capcom reuses sprites that look decent and actually have animation

you obviously missing the point of me replying to you when its so obvious. capcom resued sprites. thats it. end of subject. it doesn't matter if there sprites look better, has more animation. I don't see how easier i can put it to you. The whole point is they are REUSING SPRITES! Like i said before, for years (thats YEARS) capcom fanboys have been taunting, making flame threads, interrputing SNK threads about crappy snk graphics and how much they REUSED SPRITES. You couldn't even make an SNK thread without a capcom troll coming in ruining it saying the same lame excuse about how crappy the gfx were or about the reused sprites. Now, i just know your gonna make up another lame excuse to defend capcom.

caliagent#3
05-12-2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by SSJGouKi


you obviously missing the point of me replying to you when its so obvious. capcom resued sprites. thats it. end of subject. it doesn't matter if there sprites look better, has more animation. I don't see how easier i can put it to you. The whole point is they are REUSING SPRITES! Like i said before, for years (thats YEARS) capcom fanboys have been taunting, making flame threads, interrputing SNK threads about crappy snk graphics and how much they REUSED SPRITES. You couldn't even make an SNK thread without a capcom troll coming in ruining it saying the same lame excuse about how crappy the gfx were or about the reused sprites. Now, i just know your gonna make up another lame excuse to defend capcom.

U r missing the point, capcom has been reusing sprites also for years. What i was saying is that it doesn't matter if snk/capcom reuse sprites as long as the animation is there. There is no reason y snk can't put any animation into there characters after 10+ yrs. But it doesn't matter. This game won't be as bad as SVC and probably not as good as CVS, just a game till SF4 comes out

SSJGouKi
05-12-2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by caliagent#3


U r missing the point, capcom has been reusing sprites also for years. What i was saying is that it doesn't matter if snk/capcom reuse sprites as long as the animation is there. There is no reason y snk can't put any animation into there characters after 10+ yrs. But it doesn't matter. This game won't be as bad as SVC and probably not as good as CVS, just a game till SF4 comes out

You need to go back to the first page and read time_stops very first post. he posted:

Time_Stop:
And whoīll be the first person that complained about SNKP using sprites from previous games thatīll praise this one?


This whole discussion about reusing sprites started with him. He ONLY indicated about reusing sprites. Then you come in, defending capcom about how at least capcoms animations are better. That statement just screams fanboyish its not even funny. And now your making another lame excuse about how it wont be as bad as SvC. Again, the whole point is REUSING SPRITES. You are straying away from time_stops original post with Gameplay and Animations to defend capcom.

caliagent#3
05-12-2004, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by SSJGouKi


You need to go back to the first page and read time_stops very first post. he posted:



This whole discussion about reusing sprites started with him. He ONLY indicated about reusing sprites. Then you come in, defending capcom about how at least capcoms animations are better. That statement just screams fanboyish its not even funny. And now your making another lame excuse about how it wont be as bad as SvC. Again, the whole point is REUSING SPRITES. You are straying away from time_stops original post with Gameplay and Animations to defend capcom.

The funny thing is that i never said that capcom doesn't reuse sprites. So time stops comment doesn't even apply to me. He was talking about people who flame about SNK reusing sprites, which i have never done. now with that said look at A3 blanka and CVS2 blanka. That's an obvious sprite rip.
I was just referring to the fact that capcom makes up for reusing sprites by AT THE VERY LEAST having animation for their characters. I'm just wondering y snk can't do the same. Rehashing sprites isn't a problem for me, but crappy animation is. Especially nowadays it's no excuse for SNK games too look so bad.

Maj
05-12-2004, 05:21 PM
Dude who gives a fuck? Capcom has been reusing sprites for years. Most of the CvS cast and the CvS2 cast consisted of reused sprites. I don't know what you guys are trying to do here. Do you think that you're somehow getting revenge for all the times some Capcom fanboy started a flamewar in your thread? The fact of the matter is that SNK does reuse sprites and has horrible animation and that fact doesn't even have ANYTHING to do with this discussion. Neither is that shortcoming on SNK's part somehow justified by the fact that Capcom is now releasing a game with reused sprites. About the only thing your points are proving is that you're no better than the people you're badmouthing.

Don Mack
05-12-2004, 05:27 PM
Man this game looks terrible. This is the reason 2D fighting games are pretty much dead in mainstream. No effort was put into this game at all it seems. I won't even touch this one..what a trajesty

Nando
05-12-2004, 05:45 PM
Can some1 host the vid(s), cuz I can't see the gamespot one, and I don't wanna play $$$ to see em

Don Knotts
05-12-2004, 05:48 PM
I totally agree. This is highly disapointing.

CvS at least featured new sorites if the SNK Characters. This looks (so far) to be a game completely filled with recycled sprites.

If there are at least 5 new characters, like Haggar, bionic commando, breath of fire characters, or viewtifyl joe ir something, then I'll be excited.

So not all hope is lost yet. But it doesn't look good.

shoryukenH2
05-12-2004, 05:49 PM
If a well drawn Ingrid sprite is in the game, I guess I'll be pretty happy (or maybe it will be the 3d version, seeing as how they're just flat out cutting and pasting shit into this game).

I might not be that excited about this game but it's all you could expect at this point. Fighting games are dead to the mainstream andthe people who still play fighting games are picky as hell. So just give me a good looking Ingrid sprites... and hopefully some online play. Then I'll be happy.

Maj
05-12-2004, 05:56 PM
Someone already mentioned this, but you can get the video from IGN.

http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/683/683099/vids_1.html

archetype
05-12-2004, 06:00 PM
I have a feeling that this game will be crappy as hell. Then a sequel will be made that is way better but will have some overpowered characters.

sf2 ww was broken
sfa was rushed
sf3 was garbage
cvs1 was crappy

I hope this game doesn't follow the same trend in past capcom fighting games. Capcom should have learned from their mistakes by now.

And to the guys bickering back and forth about teh sprite rips, we get teh point. If people complain about snk ripping sprites then just ignore them. I play snk games and don't even notice the graphics. I play them cuz I like the games. You don't have to make a point to the people in this thread about the hipocrites(sp?) that bash snk sprites. If anyone has bashed snk sprites and has taken a look at this game they should STFU, bottom line.

The game does look disapointing so far but it doesn't matter because its only 30% complete. Ill just wait and see how it turns out in the end.

I don't know about that "filler" theory either. If I was capcom I wouldn't waste my time making a game when I could concentrate all of my resources to making sf4 the greatest 2D fighting game ever. *shrug*

peace

SKJ

Havoc
05-12-2004, 06:15 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't give a fuck about the sprites?

FreddyL0c0
05-12-2004, 06:25 PM
game looks fun from what I SAW on the vid. How it ends up in the end, well thats another matter.

AlphaDragoon02
05-12-2004, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by CPS_3


Breath of Fire chars? What are you smoking? ... or am I missing something here?

Here.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0405/game051104j.shtml

SA.M'
05-12-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Havoc911
Am I the only one that doesn't give a fuck about the sprites?

No you're not.
To me all I care is that the character is there. I could care less if they used SF2 sprites.

Xenozip.
05-12-2004, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Havoc911
Am I the only one that doesn't give a fuck about the sprites? Nope. I don't care about the sprites.

A lot of other people in this thread have already said that they don't care about the sprites either.

Besides, this thread has become an arguement about the sprites. And it takes two differing opinions to make an arguement.

Incidentally though, it seems to be mostly the ones that don't like the sprites that keep arguing, while the rest of us are like w/e.

I just don't want them to use SF1 sprites, lol.

FighterX
05-12-2004, 06:39 PM
I'm just happy to see another 2-D fighter come out. I'll take what I can get at this point.

Gen2000
05-12-2004, 06:54 PM
Just got through looking at the vid, the game looks pretty cool for a first attempt. I already know Capcom is gonna do better in the sequel anyways. I like the idea of being to change characters each round. Characters having their own styles seems alittle unfair to me, but is pretty unique. I wonder how the properties of the CCs are for the Alpha people (invinciblity frames).

Random123456789
05-12-2004, 07:00 PM
I agree SA.M'. I don't care about the sprites as long the gameplay is worth it.:p

AHVB
05-12-2004, 07:10 PM
Kick Butt.

Zakuta
05-12-2004, 07:22 PM
Hmm. We shall see.

Capcom love throwing random shit in our faces.

4neqs
05-12-2004, 07:27 PM
Finally, Ingrid out of the cancelled CFAS and in something that's not hentai manga. :lol: :cool:

And yes, if the gameplay is good, I could look past the MUGEN-ness of it all. This is quite surprising to me.

SSJGouKi
05-12-2004, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Xenozip.
Nope. I don't care about the sprites.

A lot of other people in this thread have already said that they don't care about the sprites either.

Besides, this thread has become an arguement about the sprites. And it takes two differing opinions to make an arguement.

Incidentally though, it seems to be mostly the ones that don't like the sprites that keep arguing, while the rest of us are like w/e.

I just don't want them to use SF1 sprites, lol.


The reason why there is a huge fuss about the sprites is because time_stop was pointing out that snk wasn't the only company that reuses the same sprites over and over. its not a big deal that capcom uses the same sprites but when snk uses the same sprites then capcom fanboys has the right to start flaming?

ssj2shingohan
05-12-2004, 07:44 PM
Online...?
For XBOX,yes.

Xenozip.
05-12-2004, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by SSJGouKi


The reason why there is a huge fuss about the sprites is because time_stop was pointing out that snk wasn't the only company that reuses the same sprites over and over. its not a big deal that capcom uses the same sprites but when snk uses the same sprites then capcom fanboys has the right to start flaming? Umm.. I know how the arguement(s) started.

And it actually started because time_stop was referring to the people who complained about snk's sprites -but not capcom's- as hypocrites.

And he also stated a snide comment about "who will be first" to bash snk's sprites, yet defend/praise capcom's.

However, that's irrelevant. People are going to be voicing their opinions here as to weather they like the looks of the game or not.

It just happens that people are also going to argue with each other about their opinions, as well.

And that's because people are really quick to defend something they are optimistic about, as a way of keeping themselves optimistic.

basis
05-12-2004, 07:52 PM
hello. well this was a nice suprise, me being a fan of all things street fighter. looks ok to me but i agree with people saying they will come up with better sequal in a year and a halfs time. i also agree this game is going to be like a quasi-cvs2, which isnt too bad a thing i suppose.

i reckon the reason they used yun and chunli to represent third strike is because they already had thier sprites avaliable from cvs2. and like yun, Leo and t-rex thing are probably gonna have major frames removed. so in the end were going to get a mixture of alpha, and cvs2 type sprites, with any new characters being similar to the cvs2 sprite style. my guess is kyosuke might show up (again cos they already have his sprite), and possibly other rival school characters (akira maybe?).

maybe this game wont be as deep, balanced and competition worthy as some other games (though im hope im wrong about this), i still think it will be a fun game and we should all look forward to it.:)

eightysix
05-12-2004, 08:07 PM
I think you guys are over analzying this game with the "OMFG THEY'RE REUSING SPRITES!!!1". I mean, this isn't even the final version so you can't really judge the game. I say take this with a grain of salt since there will probably be a TON of revisions before it's finally put out.

Fatghost28
05-12-2004, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by basis
hello. well this was a nice suprise, me being a fan of all things street fighter. looks ok to me but i agree with people saying they will come up with better sequal in a year and a halfs time. i also agree this game is going to be like a quasi-cvs2, which isnt too bad a thing i suppose.

i reckon the reason they used yun and chunli to represent third strike is because they already had thier sprites avaliable from cvs2. and like yun, Leo and t-rex thing are probably gonna have major frames removed. so in the end were going to get a mixture of alpha, and cvs2 type sprites, with any new characters being similar to the cvs2 sprite style. my guess is kyosuke might show up (again cos they already have his sprite), and possibly other rival school characters (akira maybe?).

maybe this game wont be as deep, balanced and competition worthy as some other games (though im hope im wrong about this), i still think it will be a fun game and we should all look forward to it.:)

You can see in the screen shots that Chun Li has her 3s sprite, not her CvS2 sprite. She has the 3s color depth, and her 3s animation for crouching kicks, fireball, and flip kick.

MAGUS1234
05-12-2004, 08:34 PM
This looks dope!wher'd yall get the vids??

KING
05-12-2004, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by MAGUS1234
This looks dope!wher'd yall get the vids?? http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/683/683099/vids_1.html?fromint=1

eightysix
05-12-2004, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by MAGUS1234
This looks dope!wher'd yall get the vids??

Here (http://c.streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/514/514231/capcomfightingjam_051004_1_wmvlow.wmv).

Skyler
05-12-2004, 08:44 PM
Capcom reusing old character sprite again ia a no no. A new game like this deserve new sprites and these other characters seems better to fit in the marvel vs. capcom universe. Damn wheres my marvel vs. capcom 3 with XVSF Ryu:mad: even though capcom is reusing there sprites, atleast its better to look at them than any of SNKP sprites for crying out loud. took them like 13 years just to upgrade and to finally notice that graphics in a game does count.

the other thing that tick me off too was that guile actually makes another appearance. for god sake, where the hell is charlie considering guile already shows up 3 times in the CVS and SVC series. Im still hoping for Rose to make a return with a newer sprite or if they do put morrigan in the game, i hope she gets a sprite update. I guess no marvel vs. capcom 3 this year, but atleast we got something than nothing.:cool:

eightysix
05-12-2004, 08:49 PM
OMFG, DEMITRI RC'ED THROUGH RYU'S FIREBALL!!!1one :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hanzou
05-12-2004, 08:50 PM
I'd love to see some Rival School characters in there. Capcom owes us, since Kyosuke sucked ass in CvS2... :mad:

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