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Mike_Z
05-24-2004, 11:37 AM
Edit:

http://www.evilslash.com
15 new matches of more craziness. Beginning at #19. Old matches still up.

Enjoy, that's all I've got. :^)
Mike Z

Geese Pants
05-24-2004, 11:47 AM
Cool Vids Mike...............:)

Higher Mag
05-24-2004, 12:04 PM
damn how do u pull off those trick. U make it look like mag2k don't even have a chance.

FX Hoodlum
05-24-2004, 12:31 PM
Mike Z. is still my favourite player of all time.

MechZZ
05-24-2004, 12:37 PM
good shit
ur juggie is fukin insane, thx for the vids

Difoj
05-24-2004, 01:46 PM
Good stuff :cool:

Preppy
05-24-2004, 01:51 PM
Nice - the vids were crazy (many nice 100% combos...), and 'twas much fun to see CrazyGlitchTeam beating down Magnus. :)

CableHViperB44
05-24-2004, 02:52 PM
U stopped playing at UCLA arcade? I need somebody else to piss off angry white guy with me :lol:

... good shit with the match vids.

sixtymhz
05-24-2004, 03:23 PM
Good stuff Mike.

qyv
05-24-2004, 03:37 PM
The best thing about juggernaut is that you can stick out a laggy as hell move (standing feirce) and if anybody even thinks about not letting you put it away, you just cancel into headcrush. It's awesome to see him just stand there with a move out and have everybody wait.
Oh and thanks alot for the vids, I've actually gotten a couple people into the game with them, ( top tier haters)

Ouroborus
05-24-2004, 04:21 PM
these matches are horrible

Dios <-X->
05-24-2004, 04:37 PM
why is there no music in these matches?

Jiorn
05-24-2004, 05:01 PM
:confused: Damn.

I didn't watch any MvC2 vids, but the Mokoto footage was top-notch.

Buu
05-24-2004, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Jiorn
:confused: Damn.

I didn't watch any MvC2 vids, but the Mokoto footage was top-notch.

Yeah, it says that those matches aren't on the server, but that Makoto strat. was hot. Especially the stuff with SA3. =)

Mike_Z
05-24-2004, 07:12 PM
- There's no music because that was the only copy of MvC2 I had at the time. I figure everybody has some music they like, so you can open Winamp at the same time. :^) There are about 20 more, depending on interest, so if everyone HATES the no-music idea, I can fix it for those.
- About the matches not being on the server, right-click-save-as. Streaming shouldn't work due to the hosts being clueless. Still a problem?

1 dissatisfied customer for 10 GB of matches downloaded feels pretty good to me, except for the bandwidth. ;^)

Mike Z

Saotome Kaneda
05-24-2004, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Mike_Z
- There's no music because that was the only copy of MvC2 I had at the time. I figure everybody has some music they like, so you can open Winamp at the same time. :^) There are about 20 more, depending on interest, so if everyone HATES the no-music idea, I can fix it for those.
- About the matches not being on the server, right-click-save-as. Streaming shouldn't work due to the hosts being clueless. Still a problem?

1 dissatisfied customer for 10 GB of matches downloaded feels pretty good to me, except for the bandwidth. ;^)

Mike Z

I could care less about the music.


KEEP TEAM CRAZY GLITCH ALIVE

That Mag got some balls to be rushin' down Juggs with bar with no Psy to back him up sometimes....=p I also XCOPYed your Jugga throw->Headcrush and Tron/Jugga corner combos, gotta punish the local schoolkids for thinking that up/backXXrandom helperXXAHVB is a good tactic. =D

box
05-25-2004, 12:18 AM
One thing to notice is that they put it on infinite time.

The reason I guess is cause Mike's team really has no way of catching up to Runaway Storm. :(

D.HYO
05-25-2004, 03:53 AM
Nice vids, Mike.:cool:

sixtymhz
05-25-2004, 03:57 AM
btw, no jugg/mag/hulk vids?? :(

Ultima
05-25-2004, 04:48 AM
Hey Mike, weren't you supposed to go to RIT last year or the year before?

Higher Mag
05-25-2004, 05:15 AM
nice vid. Love the juggy attack but i believe that mag2k was holding back his true skill.

Mike_Z
05-25-2004, 07:58 AM
We honestly didn't notice infinite time until about halfway through, and it made no difference. Matches 17, 18, and the rest not yet posted have time on. The rest of 'em also have some runaway Storm and some Spiral.

I guess some people just can't believe that anyone except the Big 6 can compete. All the better for me. :^)
Mike Z

**Skimitar**
05-25-2004, 10:52 AM
Hey MikeZ did you go to TS4.
Got any New Glitch Vid's there to Evil:evil:

Smokeyp91
05-25-2004, 11:25 AM
nice ass shit
you cant fuck wit juggs
hell beat the fuck out you with his big ass hands and head

ChaosNightWolf
05-25-2004, 01:25 PM
What I want to know is where are all of SRK's narrow minded people that think you only need tier to win? WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY NOW HUH!? Exactly now stfu and stop the top tier theory shit.

Magnetro
05-25-2004, 02:00 PM
hah, good one mike doing this before you let me know, and yah, glad a lot of people enjoyed them. Hmm not quite sure what to say at Higher Mag juss that it's really fun to play vs people who can kill you in 4-8 hits that aren't storm or Sentinel, Magneto doesn't count he needs resets or 45 hits of ROM into unmashable or DHC of doom. Aside from that, I was too embarrassed to play a mirror match :lol:

Sanchez
05-25-2004, 02:56 PM
The Makoto vid is very educational.

Motoki Imawano
05-25-2004, 03:25 PM
good shit magnetro2k. keep beasting. also, i love your editing...its inspiring.:)

demiSe
05-25-2004, 10:15 PM
Whats the "My Game" section for?

Amingo
05-25-2004, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by ChaosNightWolf
What I want to know is where are all of SRK's narrow minded people that think you only need tier to win? WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY NOW HUH!? Exactly now stfu and stop the top tier theory shit.

if you're too stupid to understand the basic premise behind tiers, i'd suggest you just go quietly to the corner and play with your random guile/jin/akuma teams instead of embarrassing your fellow low tier fanboys.

nice matches though, it's always hilarious watching juggernaut instant kill combos hahaha. magnetro seems to be have gotten a lot more used to team mike z compared to earlier though where he'd keep snapping out power up-ed juggy :D

Mike_Z
05-26-2004, 12:19 AM
(essay) - Tiers don't indicate automatic wins, they indicate characters with advantages, disadvantages, or skewed risk/reward ratios compared to the rest of the cast. Case in point - if you don't touch the stick or buttons, you can lose with any team you want to. :^) Winning with low tiers is possible, you just have to have a different skill set. It's still inappropriate to shout "Where y'all at now?!" because tier ratings are valid. In fact, they are *extremely* valid - without the power-up bug, Juggernaut would simply NOT be able to compete with Magneto, Sentinel, Cable, or Storm in any real way. Many of the low-tiers are low-tier simply because of the damage they take (high risk for doing anything) and the damage they can't deal (low reward for doing any of your high-risk stuff) without substantial Super meter use. Tiers don't mean you can't win with Anakaris, they just tell you that it would be a lot less effort to play Cable.
Looked at another way: Many low-tiers can do Magneto- or Storm-style damage with the right assist, if they land an opening move. Some, like Juggernaut, can even do more damage more easily. However, with all the crazy manuvering they can do, Magneto, Storm, or Sentinel are much more likely to land their opening move than Dan or Felicia are, which gives them the high-tier edge.
- The My Game section: give it a bit. I'm busy with tests right now. :^)

Mike Z

mjm
05-26-2004, 01:09 AM
haha cool stuff guys

T-Kimura
05-26-2004, 03:53 AM
match 5 was amazing

Adam Warlock
05-26-2004, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by ChaosNightWolf
What I want to know is where are all of SRK's narrow minded people that think you only need tier to win? WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY NOW HUH!? Exactly now stfu and stop the top tier theory shit.

Originally posted by Mike_Z
(essay) - Tiers don't indicate automatic wins, they indicate characters with advantages, disadvantages, or skewed risk/reward ratios compared to the rest of the cast. Case in point - if you don't touch the stick or buttons, you can lose with any team you want to. :^) Winning with low tiers is possible, you just have to have a different skill set. It's still inappropriate to shout "Where y'all at now?!" because tier ratings are valid. In fact, they are *extremely* valid - without the power-up bug, Juggernaut would simply NOT be able to compete with Magneto, Sentinel, Cable, or Storm in any real way.

You were saying, Chaos? Fuckin' dick wrinkle.

Nevermind
05-26-2004, 05:02 PM
Hey Mike, or anyone for that matter, is there a way to DHC from Magneto to a Headcrush? I know you can frame kill it like Magneto can with Iron Man's Photon Cannon, but are there any other setups for it?

Mike_Z
05-26-2004, 07:21 PM
1 - The rest of the matches are now up. I edited my first post, and I'm not starting a new thread, so I hope people notice. If not, the better for my bandwidth. :^)

2 - For Nevermind:
Launch, aircombo, airthrow with Fierce, tempest DHC headcrush, mash 8 hits. Kills all.
Launch, sj.RH xx tempest, DHC headcrush. Also launch, sj.RH dash down etc. normal jump towards Short->Fwd->Fierce xx tempest, DHC headcrush. Also combo to s.RH xx tempest, DHC headcrush.
If Mags is B-type - d.Short->d.Fwd xx triple Super, or anything else xx triple Super.
(Like I did in the first batch of vids from long ago) combo to OTG Short->slide, tag in Juggernaut, [optional jump towards Short->RH] Headcrush. Midstage only.
In summary: There are many more ways, come on now, it's Magneto.

Mike Z

Jiorn
05-26-2004, 07:26 PM
More Makoto!!!

Especially that SAIII business. Was that an actual match against Urien? Whatever it was, I loved it.

Magnetro
05-26-2004, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Mike_Z
In summary: There are many more ways, come on now, it's Magneto.

Mike Z

STFU

@ Demise: It means what it says.:)

Sanchez
05-26-2004, 11:48 PM
Interesting/entertaining matches.

HaiDuongRiceMan
05-27-2004, 04:47 AM
Shit, I wish I could connect with random tagins like Mike...

Good matches.

Toshin
05-27-2004, 07:28 AM
holy match 27 !!:eek:

Mike, thank god people have fun using her. Nyao. (^.^)

nameingway
05-27-2004, 08:03 AM
FUCK. that stuff is great. updates on evilslash are always something to look forward to.

RedBeard
05-27-2004, 09:55 AM
Head Crush is fuckin sick.

haunts
05-27-2004, 10:11 AM
mike z, your makoto is crazy. :lol:

Magnetro
05-27-2004, 04:04 PM
Site is down. 103 GB in 3 days! I guess people like the matches :), (in case you haven't read the site)

nameingway
05-27-2004, 04:24 PM
daaaaaamn. fucking juiced that bandwith.

up in june?

Saotome Kaneda
05-27-2004, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by nameingway
daaaaaamn. fucking juiced that bandwith.

up in june?

Fuck, I didn't even get a chance to get a piece of the 2nd set. I hate you bastards.

Yeah, he'll be back up on the 5th when he pays the bill.

VEGA_OMEGA
05-27-2004, 05:59 PM
Dang, you totally rocked Sentinel with felecia in the 27th match...that was sweet!

nameingway
05-27-2004, 06:53 PM
saotome, msg me on aim... the name is the same as my user on srk.

Bunkei
05-27-2004, 07:04 PM
I've already PM'ed Mike and offered to help mirror some of the matches.

These are very very good matches, and highly educational. I'm still somewhat of a novice at MvC 2, but here are my thoughts about couple of Mike_Z's teams:

Juggs/Doom/Tron:

Strengths: First & Foremost, all 3 characters have good/great defense, which makes them hard to kill (how many times have I seen Magnetro's Magneto tear up Juggz with infinites only to die with 1 combo 5 seconds later?). High damage potential, most combos cost either the opponent's character or 90% health, and the DHC's are great not just for pure damage but for frame kill (Tron's Lunch Rush = instant startup), and by far the most LETHAL counter (glitched Headcrush makes attacking Doom or Tron extremely treacherous)

Weaknesses: Two mainly to speak of... First, RANDOM TAGOUTS. To glitch Juggs, of course you have to tag him out during his power up, and that can cost the incoming character some serious health .. but this is generally agreeable considering what you're getting in return (again .. counter-HC > *).. I also have reservations about their DHC's when blocked (Is Doom Photon Array XX Tron's Giant Servbot super punishable? and vice versa?)

The second and most glaring weakness is Cable. Against all 3, he can dominate, if he's patient. Perhaps the most difficult match would be aganst Juggz w/meter since he can't chip with fierce viper and there's a startup delay on grenade. Also, since Cable can safely punish assists, any can die quickly if abused too much.

MSP was fun to watch, and in many ways mimic this team in damage potential. MSP could be considered better because it's easier to force a hit. But you can't deny the fact that Juggz/Doom/Tron can kill any member with literally one combo. So it really comes down to whether or not Magneto can kill at least one member of that team before he dies. I do notice that Tron doesn't do well against Psylocke, and seems to be her worst matchup besides Cable.

Spiral/Cable/Sent seems to be a tough team for Juggs/Doom/Tron, even though that Doom counters Spiral. Tron's assist seems to lose against Sent drones, but I'm not sure against Juggz's expansion version. Once again, Cable is a huge problem for this team it seems, especially if he Sent drones are backing him.

But overall, the biggest surprise is the fact that this team can fight Sentinel pretty well. In all the matches, it was near impossible for Sent to sustain flight for any long periods of time. Of course, Sent's attacks all hurt, but that's negated by the fact that all 3 members of Mike's team have good or excellent vitality.

Mike Z hasn't played enough Magneto/Hulk/Juggz for me to formulate an opinion. But, can someone tell me why does that combo takes off 90% life (Magneto magic series [4 hits, slowly], tempest XX [immediately] Gamma Headcrush.

Felicia has an infinite against Sent :eek:?? Her supers are excellent, and can counter HSF even if Sent does his super first, and DAMAGING combos. Instant startup can mean frame kill with Juggs' HC as a DHC. She needs Doom to keep Cable/Sent grounded though.

Suggestions? Magnetro, if you could play Team Scrub (or Storm/Sent/Commando), I'd like to see how well you do against Mike's team. I also wouldn't mind seeing a bit of Strider/Doom and perhaps Team Watts.

If you record any more matches, I'll gladly host them through http://www.top-players.com . PM me if you're interested.

--Benjamin

Bunkei
05-28-2004, 01:43 PM
Matches are back up ...

http://www.top-players.com/

Note: I will take some matches offline if the bandwidth starts shooting through the roof. However, Mike has compressed the videos so they're roughly 1/3 of the size they used to be, so I don't see this as being an immediate problem.

Enjoy :)

--Benjamin

saberwolf
05-28-2004, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by D.HYO
Nice vids, Mike.:cool:

Magnetro
05-28-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by benn93z28
Matches are back up ...

http://www.top-players.com/

Note: I will take some matches offline if the bandwidth starts shooting through the roof. However, Mike has compressed the videos so they're roughly 1/3 of the size they used to be, so I don't see this as being an immediate problem.

Enjoy :)

--Benjamin
Thanks, on my behalf as well.

PS. Vanessa Mae = :) :D GOOOOOOD

Dios <-X->
05-28-2004, 02:23 PM
match 27 was fuckin crazy. sick ass felicia

Bunkei
05-28-2004, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Magnetro2000

Thanks, on my behalf as well.

PS. Vanessa Mae = :) :D GOOOOOOD

Hehe ... props to your Magneto, it's fo' shizzle

I have some vids of Vanessa-Mae in concert, if you want them.

PM me on AIM .. same name as here

Mike_Z
05-28-2004, 03:22 PM
So yeah. They're up again, and I'm broke and accepting donations from all you generous people who care so much (ahahaha).
In other news, it was suggested there be a forum to discuss competitive low-tiers, and someone created it behind my back, so here it is:
http://board.top-players.com
Justin K., get yourself a username!

Mike Z

eks
05-28-2004, 05:24 PM
thanks for jacking our ftp

i got fucken headcrushed

Bunkei
05-28-2004, 05:55 PM
A certain person got pissed that I used top-players.com to host Mike_Z's videos (even though the site hasn't been used in a half a year). To that end, I've deleted the links and movies off of their site and put it on my own domain.

The new address for the vids are: http://videos.e-z-hosting.net

--Benjamin

Bunkei
05-28-2004, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by eKiN
thanks for jacking our ftp

i got fucken headcrushed

PM me the pass (I can't view passes, only change them) and I'll restore it to the server, I removed everything related to Mike Z off of your site.

--Benjamin

**Edit** Pass is reset to old one

KING
05-28-2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by benn93z28
Mike Z hasn't played enough Magneto/Hulk/Juggz for me to formulate an opinion. But, can someone tell me why does that combo takes off 90% life (Magneto magic series [4 hits, slowly], tempest XX [immediately] Gamma Headcrush. Blame Hulk's glitched Double Gamma Crush...:D
==============================================
from Racewing's Hulk's Double Gamma Crush FAQ (from GAMEFAQS.com)

There is, however, a way that has been found to

a) Make sure that the Crush will always connect and be unmashable; while at the same time, b) do almost double damage and nearly wipe out normal-stamina characters completely with just one level of super meter.

...*I* didn't find it. I just said it's been found. *Quiet* already. :)

This is called the Double Crush (If it's not conventionally called that, then I'm calling it that now. Hush.), and it is your key to pushing Hulk up just a few rungs on the old tier-list. Probably not enough to hang with the big boys of zoning (I.E. Sentinel, Cyke, Spiral, STORMaieeeeeeee), but still a contender in his own right.

The Double Crush works like this:

- You call an assist which puts the opponent in the air and keeps him there, setting them up.

- Hulk does a Gamma Crush, and on the way DOWN (not up, if it hits up, Ye Olde Vertical Flying Screen will activate, they will fall to the ground, and they can mash out), hits the opponent with his big rock for a bunch of hits.

- After a set number of hits, the opponent falls back down to the ground (it seems to be impossible to roll out of this. Flying Screen in action again, perhaps?) with Hulk pretty much right on top of them.

- Hulk does a SECOND crush on them, breaking the rock, for just one giant damaging hit, as if the opponent had been hit with a Crush setup on the way up.

In essence, you are getting two Gamma Crushes for the price of one. It takes advantage of both of the Gamma Crush's ways of figuring damage:

- First, MvC2 compensates for the opponent being in the air and doles out several small Crush hits which in total add up to 1 Gamma Crush's usual damage. However, since Hulk is still in the air, THE ROCK DOES NOT BREAK and is still in use. In fact, the rock never breaks until it reaches the ground.

- Second, the game gives you one big Crush damage dealing when it knows the rock is going to break. Again, standard GC damage, only it doesn't know that it ALREADY dealt that same damage out when Hulk's rock was smacking the other dude around in the air.
==============================================
Uhm, yeah, whiff Mag's Tempest keeps them in mid-air; therefore, Hulk gets to hit them twice, since the rock has to break on the ground (well, that's basically the "what" happens)...:o

Holy Knight
05-28-2004, 06:55 PM
:cool:

-BF-
05-28-2004, 07:07 PM
Awesome stuff Mike and Magnetro.

Magnetro: Awesome sent combos and Magneto reset vid. :)

Manx
05-29-2004, 10:45 AM
Them vids made my day here at work. Great stuff, Mike. :lol:

Simply_ChiLL
05-29-2004, 01:04 PM
..i've gotta agree w/most of the people who posted here..and yeah..they are some pretty pimp ass videos..kinda inspiring too'..good shit!..

saberwolf
05-29-2004, 06:52 PM
Are the vids down?

Mike_Z
05-29-2004, 08:09 PM
No, the vids aren't down, they're just here:
http://videos.e-z-hosting.net
I updated the evilslash "page" as well. :^)

Mike Z

Jin Cena
05-29-2004, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Amingo


if you're too stupid to understand the basic premise behind tiers, i'd suggest you just go quietly to the corner and play with your random guile/jin/akuma teams instead of embarrassing your fellow low tier fanboys.



LoL and so true. My low tier team is Guile or Charlie/Capcom/Jin all aa and even I know and experienced that it's a sucky team for competitive play. Sometimes I even lose just to the cpu from time over with that team.:rolleyes: :lol:

And the vids rock.:cool:

MR.POWER
05-30-2004, 11:42 PM
well the shit wont dl 4 me.:lame:
but next time I go on a comp Ill look 4 it again,
keep putn out vid's. you better go to evil so we can fuck shit up with juggs:evil:

peace out good game.

Deus
05-30-2004, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by MR.POWER
well the shit wont dl 4 me.:lame:
but next time I go on a comp Ill look 4 it again,
keep putn out vid's. you better go to evil so we can fuck shit up with juggs:evil:

peace out good game.


fuck man where have you been?

and that is one fucking tight ass avatar hahahahaa

Magnetro
05-31-2004, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by MR.POWER
well the shit wont dl 4 me.:lame:
but next time I go on a comp Ill look 4 it again,
keep putn out vid's. you better go to evil so we can fuck shit up with juggs:evil:

peace out good game.
I can send on AIM if you'd like. + I'll be fucking shit up with Juggs to a lesser extent.:)

Bunkei
05-31-2004, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by MR.POWER
well the shit wont dl 4 me.:lame:
but next time I go on a comp Ill look 4 it again,
keep putn out vid's. you better go to evil so we can fuck shit up with juggs:evil:

peace out good game.

In case you missed my post, the videos moved to http://videos.e-z-hosting.net

--Benjamin

Saotome Kaneda
05-31-2004, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by benn93z28


In case you missed my post, the videos moved to http://videos.e-z-hosting.net

--Benjamin



The page cannot be displayed

WTF?

CapCom_jeff
06-01-2004, 01:38 AM
nice vid magneto2k...... idol!!!!!!!!

4neqs
06-01-2004, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by Saotome Kaneda

The page cannot be displayed

WTF?

Works fine for me now. I'm using mozilla.