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Higher Mag
05-29-2004, 09:18 PM
I think that magneto is the strongest of the god. Fighting one on one with other god is easy for him. I believe cable is the weakest among the god while strom and sent. is a draw.
But magneto trample through other god.
Thats my IMO. what your though about mag vs other god:D

Remix1213
05-31-2004, 11:34 AM
Mag is GOD plain and simple fuck storm and sent

50mOrEcEnTz
05-31-2004, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Higher Mag
I think that magneto is the strongest of the god. Fighting one on one with other god is easy for him. I believe cable is the weakest among the god while strom and sent. is a draw.
But magneto trample through other god.
Thats my IMO. what your though about mag vs other god:D man, take the time to type out ur thoughts...that juss seems like a jumbled mess.

here is my opinion on things

mag vs cable is 8-2 or 9-1 magneto's favor
mag/xxx vs mag/psy is like 7-3 or 6-4 mag/psy's favor
mag vs sent/cap is dead even or maybe 5.5 to 4.5, mag's favor
mag vs storm/sent/aaa is probably even imo (probably in storm's favor if u ask a storm player, but im a mag player)

1 on 1
mag beats cable 10-0
mag beats sent 9-1
storm beats mag 6-4 or 7-3

hypermegachi
05-31-2004, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by 50mOrEcEnTz
1 on 1
mag beats sent 9-1


....come on man...9 to 1??? that's excessive. maybe in perfect execution theory fighter. but in realistic fighter any little mistake magnus makes = half his health gone. even one frying pan takes like a quarter. and it's so easy to do a simple sj lk lk rp...not to mention the fast flies you can do that take everything off. also, since you have no assist it's very difficult to have a guranteed tempest connect....shockwave does jack after the rom.

should be more like 7-3 or 6-4

Remix1213
05-31-2004, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by 50mOrEcEnTz
man, take the time to type out ur thoughts...that juss seems like a jumbled mess.

here is my opinion on things

mag vs cable is 8-2 or 9-1 magneto's favor
mag/xxx vs mag/psy is like 7-3 or 6-4 mag/psy's favor
mag vs sent/cap is dead even or maybe 5.5 to 4.5, mag's favor
mag vs storm/sent/aaa is probably even imo (probably in storm's favor if u ask a storm player, but im a mag player)

1 on 1
mag beats cable 10-0
mag beats sent 9-1
storm beats mag 6-4 or 7-3

Really? storm beats mag i thought mag beats storm i know storm can run away but mag just waits till she lands and HOPES he can get the catch. Well i guess it depends on who is using magnus right.....

50mOrEcEnTz
06-01-2004, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by hypermegachi


....come on man...9 to 1??? that's excessive. maybe in perfect execution theory fighter. but in realistic fighter any little mistake magnus makes = half his health gone. even one frying pan takes like a quarter. and it's so easy to do a simple sj lk lk rp...not to mention the fast flies you can do that take everything off. also, since you have no assist it's very difficult to have a guranteed tempest connect....shockwave does jack after the rom.

should be more like 7-3 or 6-4 sentinel doesn't have a solid way to land a hit on magneto without an assist...the best thing sentinel can do is pushblock stuff very correctly to get a possible launcher off...but magneto can beware of that and dodge it...iono, one on one, sentinel doesn't have what it takes to get magneto away from him. the only time i see him winning is pushblock launch to unblockable setup, or pushblock grab in the corner to unblockable setup IF they don't tech.

Sorry ass hell
06-01-2004, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by Remix1213
Mag is GOD plain and simple fuck storm and sent :lol: storm is better:lol:

50mOrEcEnTz
06-01-2004, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Remix1213


Really? storm beats mag i thought mag beats storm i know storm can run away but mag just waits till she lands and HOPES he can get the catch. Well i guess it depends on who is using magnus right..... kinda does, then again it kinda doesn't. just in general...storm beats magnus, the 45 degree angle tri jumps help take away the gayness of her s.rh, but her s.rh is still mad gay. storm's normals in the air beat magneto's when used outright, although mag can sometimes time his sj.lp and he will win that out. and i kinda take back the mag vs storm/sent/aaa, it is probably a lil more towards storm favor...BUT NOT MUCH IF UR MAG IS TRILL

hypermegachi
06-02-2004, 09:14 PM
do magnus' air attacks outprioritize sent's?

if they do then yeah 8-2 or 9-1 for magnus.

i've always thought things like jabs beating out frying pans are funny and stupid.

da_dragon
06-03-2004, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by hypermegachi
do magnus' air attacks outprioritize sent's?

if they do then yeah 8-2 or 9-1 for magnus.

i've always thought things like jabs beating out frying pans are funny and stupid.

one on one your magneto should rape a sentinel...s.lp and sj ad f fp rh are hard for sentinel to dodge...even dash in s.lp sj ad df lk lp lk pins him down for a minute..one u get them guessing u can grab him or whateva...mag has way more options than sent in a one on one fight....also dashin in sj straight up and coming down with fp rh works really well...even if sent is trying that fly back shit on your magneto u can try dash in dodge whatevr he throw and try rom him...or if u dont wanna take the chance u can shoot him with an em lol...i rather dash in tho...

EDIT..i dunno if mags air attacks outpriortizes sent's...to tell you the truth i juss go with an attack if i THINK its gonna work...if i know hes gonna beat me out i juss block..i think mag j.fp trades with sents im not too sure tho...but yeah..50morecentz has more knowledge on the priorities than me...i got kinda a reckless magneto thats gotten a HELLA lot safer since moving to ATL..hes got that safe as shit, simple hard hitting tactics with his mag...
We both got diff styles and it works for us:D ...one thing thats gay as hell in a mag vs mag fight is that if your patient u can almost always hit a jump back fp on another mag thats rushing u down...that shit is soooo gay

De4dEyE
06-07-2004, 04:17 PM
I agree, 1 on 1 Magneto takes Sent out like nothing. And to whomever says one mistake on Mags part costs him half his life - same thing with Sent. Sent fucks up, it's infinite till 45 then shockwave.

MisticMagnus
06-09-2004, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by De4dEyE
I agree, 1 on 1 Magneto takes Sent out like nothing. And to whomever says one mistake on Mags part costs him half his life - same thing with Sent. Sent fucks up, it's infinite till 45 then shockwave.

Well... it's simple... in any match with mags vs any other... without assists... mags is the winner....

Mags is the best.... a 1-0n-1 battle.... mags always win :D

50mOrEcEnTz
06-09-2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by MisticMagnus


Well... it's simple... in any match with mags vs any other... without assists... mags is the winner....

Mags is the best.... a 1-0n-1 battle.... mags always win :D explain how he beats a storm that can block then

Dasrik
06-10-2004, 08:42 AM
Uhh...

One-on-one, Magneto sucks.
Without Psylocke for easy mode combos or an assist to play interference, there's no way anyone with a brain is going to just rush into your range.

Storm can just run around with roundhouse and win.

RowJoe
06-10-2004, 10:03 AM
I think you guys are a little too biased toward Magneto. I've seen alot of matches with top players and I've never seen a good Magneto/xxx take out Storm/Sent/xxx , especially when they have Capcom. That match is just too much for Magneto.

BTW, a smart Cable with the right assist(s) can hold his own.

da_dragon
06-11-2004, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by RowJoe
I think you guys are a little too biased toward Magneto. I've seen alot of matches with top players and I've never seen a good Magneto/xxx take out Storm/Sent/xxx , especially when they have Capcom. That match is just too much for Magneto.

BTW, a smart Cable with the right assist(s) can hold his own.

storm/sent/xxx is the hardest fight for magneto by far IMO...that shit is ridiculous but magneto can win if he knows how to get in on storm...i think u should watch jwong vs desmond at the break vids that were like back in jan or suming...jwongs mag took out X's whole squad, but it is jwong lol...i mean shit my mag be pulling out ocv's aganist santhrax but yeah u dont hear much bout me so w/e lol

its a hard fight..but not impossible...

Vageto136669
06-11-2004, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by 50mOrEcEnTz
man, take the time to type out ur thoughts...that juss seems like a jumbled mess.

here is my opinion on things

mag vs cable is 8-2 or 9-1 magneto's favor
mag/xxx vs mag/psy is like 7-3 or 6-4 mag/psy's favor
mag vs sent/cap is dead even or maybe 5.5 to 4.5, mag's favor
mag vs storm/sent/aaa is probably even imo (probably in storm's favor if u ask a storm player, but im a mag player)

1 on 1
mag beats cable 10-0
mag beats sent 9-1
storm beats mag 6-4 or 7-3

ok first of all there is no such thing as 1 on 1 with sent and mag at full health. People who use mag try to keep him out as long as possible, the only way i can think of for that match to happen is if mag and sent are assist characters for that match only or if both get snapped out in the begining and don't bother bringing them back in. Also the majority of the time that this match up happens is because sent get snapped out the other 2 characters on both teams get killed but like i said mag players leave him out as long as possible. So if this match up occures mag might be at half to 1/4 of his health and sent will still have next to full so in this senario sent would have the advantage over mag hands down unless ur jwong or ur mag is next to jwong status but this is IMO

50mOrEcEnTz
06-11-2004, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by Vageto136669


ok first of all there is no such thing as 1 on 1 with sent and mag at full health. People who use mag try to keep him out as long as possible, the only way i can think of for that match to happen is if mag and sent are assist characters for that match only or if both get snapped out in the begining and don't bother bringing them back in. Also the majority of the time that this match up happens is because sent get snapped out the other 2 characters on both teams get killed but like i said mag players leave him out as long as possible. So if this match up occures mag might be at half to 1/4 of his health and sent will still have next to full so in this senario sent would have the advantage over mag hands down unless ur jwong or ur mag is next to jwong status but this is IMO this matchup usually occurs when magneto starts rolling. you've never seen a magneto fight a santhrax and snap out sentinel kill commando and storm? then who's left?

eva seen a magneto rape team row? who's left if they play mag first and not sent first? sent

eva seen mss-a get raped? who is at the end? sent

it is a matchup that occurs not all the time, but enough that you can determine mag rapes the fuck out of sent. he can't do shit about mag's square jumps and fp cross up setups

even if my mag has 1/4 of his life, and sent has NEAR full, i still think the fight isn't hopeless at all, i'd say magneto still has a 30% to 40% chance of winning

da_dragon
06-11-2004, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by 50mOrEcEnTz
this matchup usually occurs when magneto starts rolling. you've never seen a magneto fight a santhrax and snap out sentinel kill commando and storm? then who's left?

eva seen a magneto rape team row? who's left if they play mag first and not sent first? sent

eva seen mss-a get raped? who is at the end? sent

it is a matchup that occurs not all the time, but enough that you can determine mag rapes the fuck out of sent. he can't do shit about mag's square jumps and fp cross up setups

even if my mag has 1/4 of his life, and sent has NEAR full, i still think the fight isn't hopeless at all, i'd say magneto still has a 30% to 40% chance of winning

well said;) lol

Vageto136669
06-11-2004, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by 50mOrEcEnTz
this matchup usually occurs when magneto starts rolling. you've never seen a magneto fight a santhrax and snap out sentinel kill commando and storm? then who's left?

eva seen a magneto rape team row? who's left if they play mag first and not sent first? sent

eva seen mss-a get raped? who is at the end? sent

it is a matchup that occurs not all the time, but enough that you can determine mag rapes the fuck out of sent. he can't do shit about mag's square jumps and fp cross up setups

even if my mag has 1/4 of his life, and sent has NEAR full, i still think the fight isn't hopeless at all, i'd say magneto still has a 30% to 40% chance of winning

yes i have seen those match-ups but wat ur example is that either team still has assists and wat i was trying to say was that its obseenly rare to see just mag vs sent 100% health no assists go at it.

I totaly agree with mag still having a chance to truely beat Sent when he's only at 1/4 health with no assists on both sides but if u look at it its still only a 1 sided fight 'cause 1 mistake on either account and it could cost them dearly

well anyway's we could go on and on about this but this is only IMO so im just goin to leave it at this

mjm
06-11-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Dasrik
Uhh...

One-on-one, Magneto sucks.
Without Psylocke for easy mode combos or an assist to play interference, there's no way anyone with a brain is going to just rush into your range.

Storm can just run around with roundhouse and win.

whats up with trashy posts recently

this is just plain wrong.

mag dashes in, storm just runs around with roundhouse and she's totally safe right?

haha dookie post of the week

Blaziniflo
06-11-2004, 03:07 PM
1on1's and this is from me so it's the official ruling:

mag vs sent 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs cable 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs mag 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs storm 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs psy 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs cyc 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs capcom 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs blackheart 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs hulk 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs tronbonne 10-0 mag's favor


I hope this helps settle things. You can post back your arguments but I won't be reading them because I know I'm right.

50mOrEcEnTz
06-11-2004, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Blaziniflo
1on1's and this is from me so it's the official ruling:

mag vs sent 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs cable 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs mag 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs storm 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs psy 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs cyc 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs capcom 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs blackheart 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs hulk 10-0 mag's favor
mag vs tronbonne 10-0 mag's favor


I hope this helps settle things. You can post back your arguments but I won't be reading them because I know I'm right. :lol:

RowJoe
06-11-2004, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by da_dragon


storm/sent/xxx is the hardest fight for magneto by far IMO...that shit is ridiculous but magneto can win if he knows how to get in on storm...i think u should watch jwong vs desmond at the break vids that were like back in jan or suming...jwongs mag took out X's whole squad, but it is jwong lol...i mean shit my mag be pulling out ocv's aganist santhrax but yeah u dont hear much bout me so w/e lol

its a hard fight..but not impossible...

Actually, I had seen that video, but deleted it a long time ago. Anyway, yeah, it is JWong, so you know he's gonna be blocking everything. :lol: Hmm, if I'm correct, I think Justin just went right through X's team Matrix but had some trouble with his Santhrax. Storm/Capcom is too random. I think Justin's Magneto got tagged a few times by Capcom, so that goes to show how good Santhrax and its chemistry can be. Oh yeah, too many HG XX Tempests in these matches... :lol:

Check out the recent Potter vs. Taiji matches. Santhrax vs. MSP...
And Soo's Santhrax is pretty damn good, too.

Don't get me wrong, though. Magneto-based teams are probably my favorite teams. :)

Dasrik
06-12-2004, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by mjm
mag dashes in, storm just runs around with roundhouse and she's totally safe right? One-on-one? Yes.

I swear, some of you idiots have forgotten how to play fighting games, and can only play Mash-on-Psylocke-Button fighter now.

KidToucherRandy
06-12-2004, 09:49 AM
It always helps to have a strong ground assits plus high hitting anti air when fighting Mag to stop both his methods of rushing in. Best example of this is Team Rush (M/S/P) vs Team Watts (BH/Sent/Cap). Match is Definately in Team Watts favor since Mag cant even get close to BH with his demons spewing plus sent drones or captin corridor in his face. As an alternative, Sent could start and would probably rape Mag just as much since BH's inferno can hit mag from far away, and Capcom could get him up close while sent is stomping on his head. Thats how you kill a god.

scrubkiller
06-12-2004, 05:12 PM
best post yet psylocke button fighter

:lol: :lol: :lol:

scrubkiller
06-12-2004, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Dasrik
One-on-one? Yes.

I swear, some of you idiots have forgotten how to play fighting games, and can only play Mash-on-Psylocke-Button fighter now.


best post yet........ lol pyslocke button fighter
good one

50mOrEcEnTz
06-13-2004, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Dasrik
One-on-one? Yes.

I swear, some of you idiots have forgotten how to play fighting games, and can only play Mash-on-Psylocke-Button fighter now. :bluu:

De4dEyE
06-13-2004, 02:20 PM
Mag vs Storm is in Storms favor, but it's not unwinnable. Though it's true if you follow a brain-dead gameplan you'll eat a roundhouse, everytime, all the time.

If Mag dashes in and Storm throws a s.roundhouse and Mag blocks it, Storm is fucked. The lag on that allows Mag to run in again and catch her while she's retracting her foot.

Crouching roundhouse has more horizontal range/priority, but you can tri jump right over it. Pretty heavy lag on that too.

C.fierce is different. It lacks horizontal range but it has a lot of vertical prority. If you block it, I think it's fast enough that she'll be blocking/in the air/attacking again once you're out of block stun, even if you blocked it while on the ground. Btw, this move is fast as fuck and will probably catch your ass while you're trijumping at her.

Storm has the advatage 1 on 1 because Mag has no solid way to catch her. HyperGravs can be seen and heard easily. You can try to tag her with a fireball, or try some weaksauce chip with it, but one blocked hail will set you back. He can't chip her worth shit. 1 on 1, out of the top tier, Storm gives him the most trouble. Fuck the robot and the guy with the gun.

Dasrik
06-13-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by De4dEyE
If Mag dashes in and Storm throws a s.roundhouse and Mag blocks it, Storm is fucked. The lag on that allows Mag to run in again and catch her while she's retracting her foot. Uhh, no?

T-Kimura
06-13-2004, 02:44 PM
lol..

De4dEyE
06-13-2004, 05:10 PM
I've been out of the MvC2 loop for a while, I'll admit some [or maybe all] of my observations may be incorrect.

MagneticShardz
07-02-2004, 02:53 PM
This is all dependent on the guys holding the joysticks and how well they play mag or storm.

Storm in my opinion DOES own magneto 1 on 1, but it's not impossible for Mag to beat her. I think the difference being, storm can use the same tactics solo as she can with assists, whilst Magneto can not.

raxe
07-02-2004, 04:27 PM
mags owns sent
storm has no bad matchups
sent's only counter is cable
mags owns cable
mags worst matchup is storm
storms solo "supposed ugly" matchup is sent/AAA
cable needs capcom to fight any of the three above him
mags does not need psy to fight either of the two above him
....

thats my opinion really. but shit, i play mags so i'm biased as fuck.

Cable_Guy2
07-08-2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by hypermegachi
do magnus' air attacks outprioritize sent's?

Hell no ! Sent's frying pan stops anything . If your timing is good enough you can stop a storm lighting attack .

Ho0v-Man
07-08-2004, 06:34 PM
I've always thought it was kind of circular as to which God tier character has advantage over another.

This is how I look at it. These are taking into consideration that both players are on the same level.

Mag beats Cable

Sentinel beats Magneto

Cable beats Sentinel

Storm can beat all three.

Higher Mag
07-08-2004, 09:27 PM
u sure that storm can beat mag. IMO mag will rape storm with speed. Magneto is faster and his attack is alot stronger than storm. His reset is fast enough to make true storm player flinch and mag doesn't suffer infinite from storm because storm doesn't have a rom inf.
she only have a ground inf. And IN that case mag will never be hit he'll alway dash everywhere. Leaving storm little few option to do anything. She'll have a hard time running away because mag is alway in front of her leaving her in block stun.
Ax any MSP OR MSS player who is alot better storm or mag.
I'm pretty sure the majority will rate magneto better

Magneto is God

Ho0v-Man
07-09-2004, 05:53 PM
Storm outprioritizes Mag on just about everything. A smart Storm player realizes this and will and always try to counteract Mag's rushdown with a high priority move. Nowadays, it seems like Mag wins vs. Storm due to Mag always having a high priority assist to start stuff up for him. One on one, Storm beats Mag; but if they both have the same assist (i.e. Psylocke) Then Mag beats Storm. He just needs a little more priority then what he's naturally equipped with so he can just get in there.

Demo
07-10-2004, 04:49 PM
I agree that mag is god over storm because i'm a msp player...but hoov-man got a point on assist type.
Hmmmmmm this answer will never be known

raxe
07-15-2004, 03:43 PM
storm/psy > mag/psy (in the corner).....

Remix1213
07-16-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by raxe
storm/psy > mag/psy (in the corner).....

Ur not serious right?????:confused: :confused: :confused:

raxe
07-21-2004, 01:02 PM
Remix: u tell me.... storm/psy = 11 fierces in the corner
mag/psy = ROM/Reset and whatnot

mags u get the unmashable and the dhc... storm they just die, and u can always bust em for more fierces.

Remix1213
07-23-2004, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by raxe
Remix: u tell me.... storm/psy = 11 fierces in the corner
mag/psy = ROM/Reset and whatnot

mags u get the unmashable and the dhc... storm they just die, and u can always bust em for more fierces.

After 7 hits it doesnt matter how many fierces u throw do to buffering, so if u want more damage u have to reset anyway right? And wat is magz good at resets.... As far as dhc'ing goes ya mag has that option but so does storm. Besides u have a shit load of options. For example rom setup to a large amount of hits (using the infinite) or reset till u get to the corner RH grab, lk,lk+PSY into unmashable dead char....

raxe
07-23-2004, 01:48 PM
to reach that 11 w/ storm I do reset. standing fierce + psylocke..

but you make a good ass point w/ mags in the corner and the throws and shit, I am not great with my throws right now so they don't get implemented too often, but I'm learning.

Remix1213
07-24-2004, 12:09 AM
I wasnt trying to be a dick or anything i waz just saying cause mag has more options then storm thats all :)

ATruEVatO
01-23-2005, 01:05 AM
seriously think about it he can beat out a single sent no assists he jus has to wait for a RP then tri jump guard break ROM and storm agnst run-away jus superjump hypergravxxtempest
and cable thats kinda diff cuz if he has metter then u gotta watch it cuz one fuck up and BAM!!! ur dead but w/less meter like 1 or 2 then u could rush down jus c.lk c.rh SJ ADD sj.rh c.rh rom so dats wat i have to say (i take this as a debate other then tlking shit towards each other)

Power Man Fox
01-30-2005, 04:27 PM
wow the majority say mags can beat storm 1-on-1..
I think storm wins..
Aginst mag blocking well puts him at a disadvantage.. Since his whole game revolves around him rushing.
Storm can go either way she dosent have to rush to win the match..
:karate:

FlashMetroid
02-03-2005, 05:48 PM
blocking puts anything at a disadvantage magneto is hard to block though thats why he is good

Power Man Fox
02-03-2005, 08:59 PM
No one is saying he's no good.. Mag is a great character.. All im saying is to stop mag you gotta block well, and to stop storm you gotta do 2 things well.. Which are blocking well and chasing her..

Higher Mag
02-05-2005, 01:12 AM
The chances of blocking a great magneto is very low. Magneto is just to good when it come down to rushing. AKA the rapist. Its possible to block but when blocking against a Higher Magneto it's more likely that you'll be eating the dirt. Magneto > Sent.cable.storm

LiquidSnake
02-05-2005, 12:22 PM
magneto is hard to block when there is another distraction but one on one against storm he usually doesn't win that fight ..storm is a lot more versatile than mags ...this is assuming of course both players are of the same skill level

Ho0v-Man
02-05-2005, 02:35 PM
Just read my sig.