Melty Blood ReACT

[[KFC]rob]

This will be the one thread talking of Melty blood, please keep posts refined and clear.

lets all stick to one notation, since most people that play this play GGXX, we'll use numeral notation
123
456
789 a,b,c,d


be back more to give thoughts on specific characters, epescially with stupid links that 've found

[nameingway]

get on aim scrub. the bastards still haven't activated my accounts! who u use?

[[KFC]rob]

right now i'm using shiki nanaya for a bit, because he has a samsho trick i remember, i can jump cancel and return the ground and do mixups =) plus its sick how safe he is and his speed

[vAiO64]

Where can I buy this game? or dl a demo?

[vAiO64]

thanks I want to buy this... Need both Versions for ReAct to work right? Can anyone that has this hook me up on where they got this or sell me a copy..:cool:

[Bacardi]

THIS GAME IS ADDICTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


sion is hot dos stun damage quick plus if u stun someone will they are in a air combo coming down she can jump upand deal free damage to till the stun wears off

[Master Chibi]

I want to play this game so bad.

:(

[Nocturnal]

Just wondering what the other verions of this game are called...since I guess you need the other 2 to play ReAct? Someone please fill me in more on this game, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[=dave=]

I was fairly impressed with this game! At the very least I'll be hosting the demo on my site. ;)

[[KFC]rob]

sion is stupid, if you play this game against a friend and pick her your not much of a friend.




do this in corner.....


A. 2c, 63214B, 5b, 2c......REPEAT!!!!!

B. 6b(overhead kick), see above

C. 6b(throw) 5a, 3b, jump c throw times 4, land tick throw.....good game.....



friends don't let other friends play sion

be back later with more broken shit

[=dave=]

Originally posted by [KFC]rob
*snip*
Would love to see this stuff in a combo vid. :D

[shoryukenH2]

somebody post up some of their match replays. very easy to do since the replay files are <5 Kb each.

i'm going to search for some japanese replays...

[VManOfMana]

Go to the "WTF is this game" thread for info on the different vesions and how to get the games.

[forgenjuro]

Originally posted by =dave=
I was fairly impressed with this game! At the very least I'll be hosting the demo on my site. ;)

where is it on your site? i dont see it.

[nameingway]

here's the link to the other thread.

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/thread63535.php

[jio]

where my credit nigga, i told u about this ish!!!

...send me the game on aim next time i talk to u.

[[KFC]rob]

hahaha, jio's a mark!!! lol yeah jio pointed this ish out to me with the vids and junk, but i went out and found the ish!

[Bacardi]

send me replays working on combo video for this game

[Obot64.com]

It just so happens that after 45 min I found the full game hosted on bt. And I found a site that hacked the game so it’s in English. Ill get back to you guys as all this stuff is on my pc at home and I am at school ATM. BTW is it against a rule to post bt links on srk

[DeAdSpAcE]

Well I believe it would count as illegal content which would result in banning (as pointed out in sabre's sticky), but whatever don't worry about posting it. Please pm me about it if it works out.:)

[YahnV]

Originally posted by Obot64.com
It just so happens that after 45 min I found the full game hosted on bt. And I found a site that hacked the game so it’s in English. Ill get back to you guys as all this stuff is on my pc at home and I am at school ATM. BTW is it against a rule to post bt links on srk

Yo, you found a MB torrent? PM that shizzle please!

[Rekka]

Their is a patch out for Melty blood React that balances things out more.

http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_wata/zaki.htm

info taken from gamefaqs...
- Hisui & Warakia's improved Blood Heat Arc Drive
- Miyako and both Akiha's improved Last Arc.
- Attack data info in Training mode.
- minor bug fixes.

This what has been confirmed in this patch so far.

[Obot64.com]

http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=partial&N=all&M=min&C=1&D=color&T=both&PER=15&I=MELTY+BLOOD+REAC

here is a link to a search I did..... if you do the same search you might get the same results.... what ever that means :confused:

[YahnV]

So that's REact. Don't you still need the original game?

[YahnV]

Nevermind. Founds it.

Thanks.:)

[DarkBuu]

This game looks awsome but am I the only one that seems to have a problem finding to d/l all I see in that link is react dont u need the original? Does anyone mind PMing me to help me a little. thanx

[DeAdSpAcE]

Yo YahnV, I'm trying to pm you about the game but your box is full. Need your help in getting the hook ups for melty blood...original game and the react patch (useless of course without the original). Thx in advance.

EDIT: Was it the english version that you found?

[DeAdSpAcE]

Also, are there specific requirements for running the game? I downloaded some demo of it from a korean site and when I tried to run it everything seemed fine until I hit a key to start things up (which it instructed me to do) and the images were all fucked up.

[VManOfMana]

From the manual:

ＯＳ　　：　ＡＴ互換機上で動く、Ｗｉｎｄｏｗｓ９８／Ｍｅ／２０００／ＸＰ
　　　　　　（ＮＥＣ　ＰＣ－９８シリーズでの動作はサポート外。互換機上でもＷｉｎ９５はサ ポート外）
　　　　　　　要ＤｉｒｅｃｔＸ８．１以降

　ＣＰＵ　：　ＰｅｎｔｉｕｍⅡ・Ｃｅｒｅｌｏｎ　３３３ＭＨｚ以上（推奨ＰｅｎｔｉｕｍⅢ　４５０ＭＨｚ 以上）

　メモリ　：　６４ＭＢ以上（１２８ＭＢ以上推奨）

　ＶＧＡ　：　Ｄｉｒｅｃｔ３Ｄに対応した、６４０ｘ４８０、６５５３６色が表示できるもので 、
　　　　　　　できるだけ高速かつ、ＶＲＡＭ１６ＭＢ以上を搭載したモノ（推奨：ＧｅＦＯＲＣＥ２５６以降 ）

　サウンド：　ＤｉｒｅｃｔＳｏｕｎｄに対応したモノ（必須）

　その他　：　４ボタン以上のゲームパッドの使用を推奨
　　　　　　　（キーボードは一部同時押しが認識できないモノがあるのでサポート対象外です）

Celeron 333MHz or higher, 64MB or more memory, video card with at least 16MB of video memory.

[=dave=]

hmmm. finished the download of mbr and used alcohol 120% to burn. wont read the disc in the drive. anyone get the iso to burn ok?

[DeAdSpAcE]

That's strange....quite a few of my system components are already beyond the requirements of the game....hmmm must be the demo then.

[Obot64.com]

hmn can sombody pm a link or a BT file for the original game, thats what i cant find!

[Clear Sky]

I remember playing the original game a long time ago. I quit playing it because I couldn't play it with someone else, and I couldn't figure out any good air combos.

Anyone got a tier list for this game?

[VManOfMana]

The game is too new to know. And even if there is an initial list, a patch was released yesterday that took off infinites.

The game is just 8 days old! Can we stop the tier obsession a little bit?

[YellowS4]

this shit needs to be online
fuck

[Spoony]

First, there's a this big-ass sticky on the top of the forum saying no posting of illegal stuffs (e.g. warez and romz), so I don't get why all you beggars get to get off here. Don't be a scrub and fill the thread with your beg spam. For those of you who weren't aware that it wasn't free, here ya go: neither ReACT nor the original Melty Blood are freeware.

I can't believe people are seriously asking for tier lists ALREADY. FFS, I think we broke something back in the day by creating that concept; now everyone wants to know the tiers of every damn game before they even start playing. Tier lists can be fun, but you're seriously better off doing match-up analyses rather than spending your time divining tier lists.

Point 1: The game is MAD BROKEN. I think those two words sum it up pretty nicely. To be more detailed, there are whack-as-hell infinite combos in this game, combos that are too easy that do too much damage, etc.

Point 2: The game is also pretty buggy, and this isn't even an alpha/beta release.

Point 3: The game is cool as heck and pretty fun if you don't abuse all the broken parts of the game.

[Spoony]

Originally posted by YellowS4
this shit needs to be online
fuck

agreed.

but then all the warez scrubs would get their asses kicked and whine about "mad hackz!!!!"

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by Spoony
First, there's a this big-ass sticky on the top of the forum saying no posting of illegal stuffs (e.g. warez and romz), so I don't get why all you beggars get to get off here. Don't be a scrub and fill the thread with your beg spam. For those of you who weren't aware that it wasn't free, here ya go: neither ReACT nor the original Melty Blood are freeware.


THE TRUTH

YahnV: please remove the link. If people is going to take the easy way and dload Melty Blood instead of buying it, at least DO IT ON YOUR OWN. It's sad how this thread went from a ReACT discussion thread to a "tell me where to download it" thread.

There goes my effort in promoting quality doujinshi fighters.

[YahnV]

Alright man. It's gone.

[VManOfMana]

Thanks for removing the link.

Okay, I think I can now argue about other points.


Point 1: The game is MAD BROKEN. I think those two words sum it up pretty nicely. To be more detailed, there are whack-as-hell infinite combos in this game, combos that are too easy that do too much damage, etc.


The patch that just got released seems to have removed all infinites except one (so far)

I will not argue that some combos make a lot of damage, but at least damage settings can be changed. Also, I think Yukinoze's videos are using a modified damage setting.


Point 2: The game is also pretty buggy, and this isn't even an alpha/beta release.


The version number of ReACT is 2.0, and the patch makes it 2.0001 or something like that. No mention about alpha or beta (unlike EFZ's initial Bad Moon Edition release which does have a [beta] in there), so it is a final version. Fortunately they are putting out patches. Considering that Melty Blood is now a commercial company, I think they can put more resources on balancing out the game with patches. I really hope ReACT can become a game balanced enough to be compared to GGXX or EFZ.

[DeAdSpAcE]

Before we return to our regularly scheduled program I have to say thank you YahnV

"Thank you YahnV."

::Runs for it::

[YahnV]

Originally posted by DeAdSpAcE
Before we return to our regularly scheduled program I have to say thank you YahnV

"Thank you YahnV."

::Runs for it::

Heh, sure thing.:)

[Holy Knight]

I just got this damn thing to work properly. Anyone got links to sprite rips? I did some Satsuki for fun. :D

[Ace London]

Just got this game. FUCKING DOPE ASS HELL. Cool characters with an awesome soundtrack. I'm loving it

[koogy]

This game is seriously way too awesome. I have the original, and sort've played around with it (waiting for the ReACT disk to get here. =/) and I don't understand some of the game's functions that I've seen in yukinose's videos.

1: With Satsuki, he does like 3 supers, then an grab and does like... 100% to Chaos, is this a glitch? O_o It also looks like the supers don't take off meter!

2: I think I understand the life recharge, but I noticed something while this was happening... Is there no time limit in this game?

3: I noticed you can combo air-grabs, can everyone do this?

Thanks in advance, this game is too good.

[VManOfMana]

1: With Satsuki, he does like 3 supers, then an grab and does like... 100% to Chaos, is this a glitch? O_o It also looks like the supers don't take off meter!


Yukinoze is doing the combo during Heat mode, which is activated when you reach 300%. In Heat mode, you can do as many supers as you want while the bar depletes. Once your Heat mode finishes, you are back to 150%. On Heat mode you can also do the Lv 3 supers. If you do so, you are back to 0%. If you press down down down + parry while on Heat, you enter Blood Heat, which refills your life and you can do an EX version of the level 3 super (I think they are called Last Arcs, haven't checked the terms of the game).

The new patch scales damage more, so the 100% may no longer be a 100%.


2: I think I understand the life recharge, but I noticed something while this was happening... Is there no time limit in this game?


Doujinshi games often put the frame rate (FPS) instead of where the timer is, so no.


3: I noticed you can combo air-grabs, can everyone do this?


Yes.

[cygnus]

Originally posted by kugler
1: With Satsuki, he does like 3 supers, then an grab and does like... 100% to Chaos, is this a glitch?

Just to add to what VMan said, in version 2.0 that throw super didn't scale at all since it was a throw. In version 2.001 it scales normally so it should do MUCH less damage now.

[[KFC]rob]

whew....good deal all the really broken shit with sion got fixed...like the multiple air throws and rope infinites.


she still has chain combo, end with sweep into tiger knee dive super which does pretty good dmg still


be back in a sec with more updates on fixes.

[[KFC]rob]

shiki N has a slower and shorter dash now.....no more dash 2b anymore =(!!!!!!!!! it also hurts one of his combos


shiki T's infinite is alot more crisp timing but its there still he seems still in tact

[VManOfMana]

All air dashes became slower. The reason for it is that air dash cancels became the base of a lot of infinities.

[Bacardi]

dave hit em up on aim BacardiJ3d1 i can hook u up with what u need

[YellowS4]

sion is still broken in the patch hahahaah.
uhh, how can i save replays?

[nolifeking]

Also, if we wanted to make vids of matches, what kind of program would be needed?

[VManOfMana]

The game automatically records replays. When the march is over, one of the options is to save it into a file. For match vids, all you need is to upload the match replay, which is a very small file.

[nolifeking]

But what if I wanted to make vids of matches like Yukinose?

[TheDarkPhoenix]

so where can i buy this game at?

[[KFC]rob]

um i don't see how the air dashing got much slower, hisu and shiki T can still a,b,airdash a,b repeat =(

[cygnus]

Originally posted by nolifeking
But what if I wanted to make vids of matches like Yukinose?

You would have to use (link-> FRAPS (http://www.fraps.com/) <-link) or something to cap the replay from the game. In the meantime you could just upload some replay files since they are so small.

[nolifeking]

http://shop.himeya.com/

That's the only place I know. $15 bucks was a lot for shipping, but the game is worth it, if you're a fan of Tsukihime and like fighting games.


edit: Thanks cygnus, I'll try to get soem replays up, as soon as I can get my friends to start playing the game more, and put something worthwhile to see. It's hard to get people to play this game. =\

[DeAdSpAcE]

I can't seem to install the game or anything. I finished downloading it and tried installing it but there's some issues with file paths or some shit. It always puts up an error window about it when it's almost done installing. Something to do with manuals or some shit...I can't even make it out cuz everything is in gibberish and I know it's trying to read out in Japanese. I don't even see an ISO file and I assume it's the finished product that is made after the installation is complete. Damn...guess I'll have to get my hands on the real game or something cuz I can't figure out what's wrong.:bluu:

[YellowS4]

deadspace, check your pms. i can fix your problems

ironchef, hows the mbr going dude? hahaha.

im still waiting for online patch =\

[IronChefZilla]

Originally posted by YellowS4
deadspace, check your pms. i can fix your problems

ironchef, hows the mbr going dude? hahaha.

im still waiting for online patch =\

Just fine...now :lol: :lol:

and in the word's of Bill and Ted:

"Trust this dude, he knows what he's talking about."

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by TheDarkPhoenix
so where can i buy this game at?

http://www.himeya.com/ has the games on stock, but the handling fee is high.

http://www.akibado.com/ allows you to make a request for the games. Takes longer but should be cheaper.

[koogy]

VManOfMana, since you seem to know alot about this game, does ReACT have an english patch to it? Thanks again. I'm trying to learn Len right now. x_x Neko-power!

[VManOfMana]

Yes and no. There is a group that is working on a English patch of Melty Blood, but they have only translated the menus so far. Nothing of the storyline has been released yet.

http://revolve.emuxhaven.net/about.html

However, the forums of The Moonlit World, a Type-Moon fansite, contains rough translations to the dialogs of several characters before fighting in story mode.

*adds to pseudo-FAQ*

[VManOfMana]

Since most of the focus has shifted to this thread and the same questions keep poping, I guess I will just repost my pseudoFAQ in here with some edits:

WARNING: LONG POST

If you have any questions that you think could be good to address here let me know.

---

VMan's EFZ/MB 101 (v 1.1)

General

No, these games are not free. Although they are made by fans, distribution costs still have to be covered. But in the end you get cheap games with some being better than commercial games.

The "sequels" of these games are actually upgrades applied to the prvious version. So they can considered to be expansion packs. EFZ has three versions, Melty Blood has two. So if you want the latest EFZ you have to buy three different CDs (and then apply the latest patch available in the developer's web page), and if you want the latest Melty Blood you have to get two CDs. The upgrades are always cheaper, at least.

In general, the games have very easy combos. That's beause most doujinshi fighting games borrow the most from Guilty Gear, which also has a very open chain system (no wonder also because GG is the #1 2D fighter in Japan). Also, a lot of cameos are bound to happen.

Where to get them

The only place in English that I know that has all versions of both games is Himeya (http://www.himeya.com). The problem is that they have high shipping and handling fees, making both Melty Blood CDs go from 4500 yen ($45) to $70 dollars (not counting shipping). On the other hand, Himeya is a good resource to see what doujinshi games are relatively safe to find.

The other place where you can try (and where I got ReACT from) is Akibado (http://www.akibado.com). Their system is nice: you tell them what you want, they look the item for you, they give you an estimate, you send your payment via PayPal/CC/whatever, they order the item, they let you know when it arrives to their office, you pay shipping, and they ship to you.

The only requirement is that you have to give them as much information as possible, such as ISBN numbers, photos, full name, or pictures.

You can think of Akibado of a proxy, and assuming that they can find what you ask them, you can order whatever you want from them. Also, they just relelased a system where they let you bid on Japanese auctions, given that you deposit the necessary money with them. Akibado's handling rate is a lot better than Himeya's, since it is charged over your total purchase, not every item. Therefore, if you order multiple items you pay a lot less in extra fees.

These guys are very friendy. I have ordered several items with them already, including the Tsukihime limited soundtrack, ReACT, and preordered the PS2 Third Strike limited box with their help, almost at reatail price not counting shipping.

In summary: if you want speed, go with Himeya. If you want a better deal or want to get other items, go with Akibado.

Eternal Fighter Zero

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Made by Tasogare Frontier (Twilight Frontier) AKA Tasofro

http://www.tasofro.net/

EFZ has been around for a looooooong time. I remember playing the first version of the demo back in 2000 or so, maybe even before.

EFZ is a 100% doujinshi (amateur/independent) game, made by fans. The characters of EFZ are taken from the characters of four games: MOON, ONE, Kanon (for those who read Megatokyo - yes, that Kanon), and AIR, which are games made by the same core team of people and released by Tactics and Key/Visual Arts:

Key/VisualArts
http://key.visualarts.gr.jp/

Tactics/Nexton
http://www.tactics.ne.jp/~nexton/

Warning: sites not work safe

As you might guess, these are all hentai games (the type of games that Otaku no Densetsu makes), but are famous for having great storylines to the point that non-hentai versions still sold like pancakes. Actually, you can notice that the characters of these games exist in a lot of other doujinshi games, especially Kanon and AIR.

There is an anime of ONE and Kanon. ONE is a 3-episode OVA that you will barely understand if you haven't played the game, but at least it does provide some information (Misaki is blind and Mio is mute, for example). The Kanon anime is a 13-episode TV series that cover most of the storyline of the original game, although it skips a lot of details. An AIR movie and TV series have been already announced.

The people who did MOKA just released a new game: Clannad. So there are hopes that there will be EFZ 4.x (at least I hope). Meanwhile, Tasofro is working with Shanghai Alice, another amateur team, with a new fighter using Shanghai Alice's original shooting games characters.

Shanghai Alice:
http://www16.big.or.jp/%7Ezun/

the game
As you might figure by surfing Tasofro's page, there is more than one version of Eternal Fighter Zero. The files that you can find in the web page are a demo based on vanilla EFZ, and patches for the several EFZ versions. If you get the demo, based on EFZ 1.11, don't get too used to it - everything is too different in later EFZ version.

There are three versions of EFZ:

Eternal Fighter Zero Renewal (EFZ): Plain Vanilla EFZ. The reason why it is called Renewal is because it is a re-release of EFZ that came out at the same time as Bad Moon Edition. This is version 1.x. Last patch is 1.20

Eternal Fighter Zero Blue Sky Edition (BSE): first upgrade. Adds three characters and balance tweaks. The engine feels different, but not that much. Think of this as the #R of EFZ. This is version 2.x. Last patch is 2.13

Eternal Fighter Zero Bad Moon Edition (BME): You can think of this like the #RR of EFZ. Adds four characters, the interface (bars, character select screen, etc) got a dark mood, more radical changes to the engine compared to BSE (including air grabs) and more than one old character got redesigned/altered (especially Mai). This is version 3.x. Last patch (current) is 3.10

The upgrades can be better described as incremental changes like XvSF to MSHvSF to MvC, but big enough so that BME is too different to EFZ.

EFZ evolved from being a Marvel like game into something more like Guilty Gear mixed with other fighting games: alpha-like super bars, auto guard with parry properties, moves with super armor and autoguard, its own variation of roman cancels, EX moves, grab chains, etc. The chain system is more like Marvel, restricted to jab > strong > fierce > command/super. Also, this game is infinite proof, despite being so free with combos. You MIGHT be able to pull a 100% if you have BAS's execution and are lucky enough to have full bars, but no infinites.

Before Melty Blood ReACT came out, EFZ was by far the best doujinshi fighting game. Now the ReACT is out, only time will tell depending on how broken ReACT ends up. This is because EFZ is extremely balanced, as it has been perfected over time.

Melty Blood

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Made in cooperation by Type-Moon and French Pan (formerly Watanabe Seisakujyo)

http://www.typemoon.org/ - Type-Moon amateur era
http://www.typemoon.com/ - Type-Moon commercial era
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_wata/ - Watanabe before rename
http://www13.plala.or.jp/french/ - Watanabe after rename

http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_wata/mb.htm
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_wata/react.htm

Melty Blood ReACT just got released in May 31st. It is an update to Melty Blood, which was released in 2002 (I think). The game is based on Tsukihime, which originally is an amateur hentai game made by Type-Moon. Tsukihime became so popular for having a DAMN GOOD story that Type-Moon became a commercial company. Their first commercial work is Fate Stay/Night, which is in the same world as Tsukihime, although with a completely different topic.

The anime based on Tsukihime is called Shingetsutan Tsukihime. It is a 13-episode adaptation that was released last year, and has been alread licensed for U.S. distribution by Geneon (formerly Pioneer). As an anime, Shigetsutan Tsukihime is good, but it is a HORRIBLE adaptation, to the point that it is loathed by those that have knowledge of Tsukihime before the anime was released. They just show you about 40% of what Tsukihime is about (being generous) and change half of that, like making Shiki a wuss, took off Ciel's curry obsession, completely ignored the plot surrounding Akiha, Kohaku and Hisui, and completely changed Satsuki's story.

In summary, they took/changed so much stuff it's not even funny. It's like watching dubbed anime in Saturday mornings.

If you want to read about Tsukihime's storyline, visit this page:

The Moonlit World
http://www.geocities.com/max3075/top.htm

Warning: you can spend hours reading the profiles, details, walkthroughs, etc. Still, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS SITE. It also has a plethora of information on Fate/Stay Night. The forums of this site also have discussion on the Melty Blood games.

the game
Anyway, back to the fighting game. Melty Blood is an interesting case of a doujinshi game. The orginal one was created when Type-Moon was still an amateur game, and they teamed up with Watanabe Seisakujo (now French Pan) to make Melty Blood. Type-Moon did all the artwork (so it looks 100% accurate to the game it is based on, unlike EFZ) while Watanabe did the fighting engine (they already had experience by making the Queen of Hearts series, based on characters by Leaf/Aquaplus - To Heart, Comic Party). Type-Moon also wrote the story mode which is a sequel to the storyline of Tsukihime, one year later. Melty Blood ReACT was made after Type-Moon became a commercial company and Watanabe changed name. It also has a story mode that is one year after Melty Blood.

(If you want to know what Tsukihime and MOKA are like, think a LONG version of the story mode with more artwork and no fighting. AFAIK there is no hentai scenes in Melty Blood so don't get your hopes high on that :)

So what do we get?

Melty Blood: the result is a fighting game that looks beautiful (3S caliber animation with hi-res 2D backgrounds) but plays horrible (I think this is common with Watanabe). Too floaty for starters, with slow movility, too many clone (and I mean CLONE) characters, and very, very, broken. It dissapointed me badly, especially because I was getting into Type-Moon and I paid Himeya's high handling rate. There is a patch that unlocks all characters and makes the bosses playable. Not sure if it is on Watanabe's page (it's simply called the Nero Patch so you can find it). This is version 1.x

Melty Blood ReACT: this is not a refinement like EFZ to BSE to BME. MB to ReACT is like A1 to A3, or Children of the Atom to MvC2. The game looks better, new characters, new animations, completely redesigned clone characters, new moves, still the very high animation quality, and improved effects. Bigger, Better, Badder. The gameplay got overhauled. It became a very fast, fun game with solid gameplay (well, visit Yukinoze's vids and see). IMO, This game can dethrone EFZ as the best doujinshi fighting game if it doesn't get broken like the original (the looks do help). My prediction is that it will be like Marvel: everyone will be broken so that it will balance out, with the low tier being the not so broken characters.
There is a beta version of the patch published in an obscure place of Watanabe Seisakujyo's web site. This is version 2.x. Patch is version 2.001 (beta)

The combo system is VERY loose: if you haven't used a move in the chain, its always available, so jab > strong > fierce and fierce > strong > jab are both valid, but you cannot use exactly the same move twice in the combo, unless you jump/land/dash/double jump.

A game translation group called Revolve is in the work of translating Melty Blood and Tsukihime. So far they have only translated the menus of Melty Blood.

Revolve:
http://revolve.emuxhaven.net/about.html

[Akuma4Real]

Wow, this game is dope! Which characters are you guys using? So far i've been playing with Len.

[cygnus]

I've been using Nero (Nqwibdiqbd) Chaos mostly. I'll post some dirty tricks for him tomorrow.

Or better yet, replay files! That's one great bonus for being a PC game.

Edit: OK, here is the first one. This shows the basic unblockables Nero Chaos can do off of EX Crows. Basically if someone ever air blocks EX Crows, you get a free combo.

Nero Chaos - EX Crow Unblockables (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Nero Chaos - EX Crow UBs.RPD)

Just put it in your "Melty Blood ReACT\replay\" folder, go to training mode and go to replay from the menu, the file should be listed there.

Also I recorded this with version 2.001 if that matters.

[Holy Knight]

I'm confused with all these new characters in ReAct. I watched the anime, thats why I recognize a lot of them, but i'm guessing that the new characters are introduced in the doujinshi/manga that aren't shown in the 13 ep anime? Anyways this shit is goood. :cool:

[Akuma4Real]

Nice replay cignus! That is pretty lethal..any more replays? I got an aircombo for Len so far but someone might have found a better one by now.

[Clear Sky]

Originally posted by YellowS4
deadspace, check your pms. i can fix your problems

ironchef, hows the mbr going dude? hahaha.

im still waiting for online patch =\

I got the same problem. Check your pms.

[YellowS4]

clear, check your pm

anyways, concerning sion in the new patch, i havent had a chance to actually play anyone yet, so im not sure if this is techable or what not...

623c (uh, that dp-like super)
when they tech out, do the 214b whip..
is it just me, or do the whip just grab them out of the air?

ill assume that you can indeed block this, and it isnt a glitch lol

how can i save replays in training mode? if i start a session, when i pause its gone. nothing saved =\

deadspace, i just added you on msn just now ;p

and about fraps, ive been able to screencap and whatever on anything BUT mbr.. wtf

[DeAdSpAcE]

Yo Yellow...do you happen to have AIM? Maybe we can work it on AIM. I didn't get anything last night on msn about anyone adding me to their list so I assumed that you had something important to take care of.:)

[Bowling Pin]

Originally posted by Holy Knight
I'm confused with all these new characters in ReAct. I watched the anime, thats why I recognize a lot of them, but i'm guessing that the new characters are introduced in the doujinshi/manga that aren't shown in the 13 ep anime? Anyways this shit is goood. :cool:

Miyako Arima, the girl in the kung fu suit, was introduced in Melty Blood. She's supposed to be Shiki's old foster sister. Sion, the purple-wearing alchemist, is also a new character introduced in Melty Blood.

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by Holy Knight
I'm confused with all these new characters in ReAct. I watched the anime, thats why I recognize a lot of them, but i'm guessing that the new characters are introduced in the doujinshi/manga that aren't shown in the 13 ep anime? Anyways this shit is goood. :cool:

The anime is a horrible adaptation. All the characters that you see in Melty Blood and Melty Blood ReACT, inlcuding the clone characters, existed before Melty Blood, the only exceptions being Sion and Mech Hisui.

In summary:

Nanaya Shiki is Shiki with his alternate personality. Taken out in the anime (and his original personality got changed as well).

Ciel's Seventh Scripture (gun) is taken out in the anime. Nanako (the character in the intro where Ciel wears the suit) first appears in Kagetsu Toya, outside the plot of the anime.

Vampire Arcueid (Warcueid) is Arcueid unable to control her blood thirst.

Miyako is a girl of the family Shiki lived with before moving back to the Tohno house. I am not sure, but I think she brielfy apperaas in Tsukihime. Taken out in the anime.

Ren is a succubus or dream demon or something like that that belongs to Arcueid. She first appears in Kagetsu Toya, so she is not part of the storyline of the anime.

Neko Arc is a joke version of Arcueid. Not relevant to the story, but more like a mascot.

Vampire Sion is Sion suffering blood thirst.

Melty Blood's Satsuki is not the same as anime Satsuki. There is an important plot element that was completely taken off the anime that explains her current state.

Warakia appeared for the first time in Melty Blood, but already existed in concept (member of the 27 Dead Apostles)

All the elements that explain Kohaku's personality are taken off the anime.

The origin of Red Hair Akiha is not explained in the anime.

Detailed explanations are in The Moonlit World (URL in the long post).

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by YellowS4
clear, check your pm

anyways, concerning sion in the new patch, i havent had a chance to actually play anyone yet, so im not sure if this is techable or what not...


Whenever you see "Invalid" in the hit count it means that the combo is techable.

[cygnus]

OK here's another Nero Chaos trick.

Nero Chaos Ex Crows Ambiguous Crossup (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Nero Chaos - EX Crow Mixup.RPD) <-- link

He can do an ambiguous crossup with his dash while EX Crows is blocked. Starting from right next to the opponent:

2A(3 hits)-2A(2 hits)xx236C, dash

You should cancel of the 2nd hit of the 2nd 2A here into EX Crows. Cancel it as fast as possible to get the crossup, and delay it a fraction of a second to stay on the same side. It's virtually impossible for the opponent to predict which side he will end up on.

[cygnus]

Here are some basic B&B combos with and without EXs. There are probably way more powerful ones, but these just are short, practical, and consistent.

Ciel (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Ciel - B&B.RPD)

Len (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Len - B&B.RPD)

Shiki Nanaya (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Shiki Nanaya - B&B.RPD)

Walakia (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Walakia - B&B.RPD)

Warcueid (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Warcueid - B&B.RPD)

[cygnus]

Some more B&B combos:

Kohaku (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Kohaku - B&B.RPD)

Miyako (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Miyako - B&B.RPD)

Red Ahika (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Red Ahika - B&B.RPD)

Satsuki (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Satsuki - B&B.RPD)

Shiki Tohno (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Shiki Tohno - B&B.RPD)

Miyako is a beast!

[Akuma4Real]

Nice replays cygnus. Here's my replay

--> http://members.aol.com/saiyangokou/LenCombo1.RPD

[cygnus]

Oh snap son! I didn't realize Len's 236C wasn't techable! Beastly!

[VManOfMana]

I haven't come up with a video yet because I cannot pull it consistently, but here it goes:

Ciel, opponent in corner

jump, j, strong > j, fierce > air dash > j. strong > j. fierce, land, s. strong > s. fierce > instant air dash > j. strong > j. fierce, land, s. strong > s. fierce > c. fierce > c. fierce (launch) > jump > j. fierce > double jump > j. fierce > air dash > j. strong > j. fierce > somerault kick.

If finished with EX somersault kick, tthe combo does about 7200 damage.

If you take out the land-in in the beginning, the combo does about 6200 damage.

[m121akuma]

Thanks for the Nero Chaos replays, Cygnus. They really are very effective tactics.

[cygnus]

Here's a couple more:

Sion B&B (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Sion - B&B.RPD)

VSion Throw B&B (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Vamp Sion - Throw B&B.RPD)

Miyako Big Combo (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Miyako - Big Combo 01.RPD)

It seems that you can only combo after 2 wallbounces, as moves would whiff if I did 3 supers. I'm guessing that's what the "3 wallbounce rule" is. Once 3 wall bounces happen you can't continue the combo.

[Akuma4Real]

wallbounce rule? hahah that sucks..did you guys notice that if you are close to the corner you can throw twice??

[Holy Knight]

VMana, that would be cool if you could get a good replay of that combo.

Cygnus, cool shit, keep it coming. :cool:

[cygnus]

Akuma4Real - what do you mean by throwing twice?

VManOfMana - holy shit that's a hard combo. The only difference in the demo is I did some 2A's instead of the last B-C chain.

VManOfMana's Awesome Ciel Airdash Combo with some 2A's (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Ciel - Big Combo 01.RPD)

OK I got it:

VManOfMana's Awesome Ciel Airdash Combo (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Ciel - Big Combo 02.RPD)

[cygnus]

Here is Kohaku's basic corner unbloackable with the Spinny Tree (the super is unbloackable).

Kohaku Corner Spinny Tree Unblockable (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Kohaku - Corner UB.RPD)

[Akuma4Real]

Damn, VMan's combo is crazy! Good stuff! What I meant about the throwing was..let's just say you are at the right corner of the screen with the other player within throwing distance. Throw the player then procede right to throw again before they land. Not too much of a big deal, but that is just odd to me.

Edit: My bad, I think only Len can do that.

[nameingway]

someone help me out? im trying to install the game buy right at the very end i get some kind of manual error. like the file is fucked up. anyone have the same problem?

[Rekka]

Whoa! Great combos, keep it coming.

[IronChefZilla]

Originally posted by nameingway
someone help me out? im trying to install the game buy right at the very end i get some kind of manual error. like the file is fucked up. anyone have the same problem?

Hey chief, how 'bout you go ahead and read the thread.

[YellowS4]

deadspace, check your msn.
i just got rid of aim. that shit was pissing me off


nameingway, pm me your install problem, i might be able to help.

and man, some of you guys are getting hella random install problems lol. =\

[Holy Knight]

I find myself whiffing Ceil's sweep launcher all the time so I now try to use a ghetto launcher of cr. fierce >> B or A into an air combo. :p

[Clear Sky]

What damage level are you guys on?

Do you put the replays in the folder you make called replays? That's what I did but I can't see of em'.

[cygnus]

Originally posted by Clear Sky
What damage level are you guys on?

Do you put the replays in the folder you make called replays? That's what I did but I can't see of em'.

I'm on whatever the default is. If you can't see the files, it's probably because the filename is too long. It only supports up to like 20 or so characters.

Oh, and [KFC]rob was right, Sion is gay! :lol:

VSion B&B (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Vamp Sion - B&B.RPD)

[Clear Sky]

Originally posted by cygnus


I'm on whatever the default is. If you can't see the files, it's probably because the filename is too long. It only supports up to like 20 or so characters.

Oh, and [KFC]rob was right, Sion is gay! :lol:

VSion B&B (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Vamp Sion - B&B.RPD)

But their all your replays! :p

I dunno, what version you playing? I'm playing 2.001.

[Holy Knight]

Hmmm, I can see all the replays posted and I am on v2.001.

[cygnus]

Clear Sky: I know what the problem might be - the folder is "replay", not "replays". That should work. Actually, the game should automatically make the directory.

Also, did you guys know that there is a jump cancel limit on ground combos? After doing that Ciel combo, I was trying to do A-B, IAD, A-B, land x n. But after I would land from the airdash and do A-B, the game wouldn't let me jump cancel again! Seems like they put a lot of thought into the combo system!

[YahnV]

I seem to be having the same trouble installing the game. If anybody can tell me how to fix it, it would be much appreciated.

[Clear Sky]

Originally posted by cygnus
Clear Sky: I know what the problem might be - the folder is "replay", not "replays". That should work. Actually, the game should automatically make the directory.



I named the folder "replay" actually.

For awhile it worked, as I found a replay which I believe was the default one. It must of being the default as the characters weren't hitting each other. Now it doesn't work. Well whatever.

I laughed when I found out that they nerfed Shiki Tohno's air dash. Damn, there go some nice air combo abilities.

[cygnus]

Clear Sky, try going into training and record whatever in recording mode. Then go to the replay folder and see if there is a file named "00.RPD" in there.

[nameingway]

Originally posted by IronChefZilla


Hey chief, how 'bout you go ahead and read the thread.
lol, read 7 pages looking for a hint of what i might need. no thanks.

anyways, you don't even need to install the game, just copy the melty blood directory from the cd onto your hd.

[Clear Sky]

Originally posted by cygnus
Clear Sky, try going into training and record whatever in recording mode. Then go to the replay folder and see if there is a file named "00.RPD" in there.

Thanks. It turns out that I can only view the replays in training mode. Whatever, as along as it works. :)

[YahnV]

Originally posted by nameingway
anyways, you don't even need to install the game, just copy the melty blood directory from the cd onto your hd.

Funny how that worked.

-Edit

Gwaa. Now I'm having problems with ReACT. It installed, but it won't run.

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by nameingway

lol, read 7 pages looking for a hint of what i might need. no thanks.


So with that you justify posting the same question for the 10th time?

And yes, you do need to run the installer. If Melty Blood and Melty Blood ReACT are in the same directory, playing story mode of one game deletes the progress made in the story mode of the other.

[Master Chibi]

I just downloaded that match of Hisui and Kohaku vs Chaos, and it looked like so much damn fun! Seriously, the two of them interchanging like that, fucking sweet!

I watched the other match too, this game is too fucking hot!

~* dasshou!

^___________^

[koogy]

If anyone sprite-rips Kohaku running at the opponent, you will make my life complete. :D

[cygnus]

Originally posted by Clear Sky
Thanks. It turns out that I can only view the replays in training mode. Whatever, as along as it works. :)

Ohhhhhh OK. The replay mode from the main menu is for match replays only. The replay mode in training is seperate.

[Holy Knight]

Originally posted by kugler
If anyone sprite-rips Kohaku running at the opponent, you will make my life complete. :D

Hmmm, lemme see what I can do. When she dashes, a whole lot of 'graphical dust' covers up her feet. :p

[Master Chibi]

I want some Kohaku / Hisui too!

:D

[VManOfMana]

Enjoy the pics while they last

http://page3.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c59172976

[nolifeking]

I have Kohaku and Hisui plushies. :D

Below is just a random match from casual play. The game seems to be only able to save one replay for matches. The first time you save, it brings up a menu to save to which file, but after, it doesn't come up and just overwrites the file. =\

[VManOfMana]

You got the UFO catchers? I have looked for them but I never saw the Ciel one. Which uniform does she use in the plushes?

I am just dedicating myself to the Spring DX figures. Getting Ciel was a pain in the ass.

[YahnV]

Okay, I'm dumb. Can anybody tell me where on the page the patch is?

[nolifeking]

Originally posted by VManOfMana
You got the UFO catchers? I have looked for them but I never saw the Ciel one. Which uniform does she use in the plushes?

I am just dedicating myself to the Spring DX figures. Getting Ciel was a pain in the ass.

Yep, I have them displayed on the top of my desk.

I think Ciel had two versions. One with the school outfit, and the other with her nun outfit.

[cygnus]

Originally posted by nolifeking
The game seems to be only able to save one replay for matches. The first time you save, it brings up a menu to save to which file, but after, it doesn't come up and just overwrites the file. =\

Just rename the file after you save the replay.

[VManOfMana]

Enter the main Watanabe page.

Look for a SMALL link at the bottom. Should send you to the framed page. Do not enter the MB or ReACT big links at the front.

Look for the diary. The link is in one of the links in the recent entries.

[nolifeking]

Originally posted by cygnus


Just rename the file after you save the replay.

Yeh, but then I'd have to continually save and exit from the game right?

[Clear Sky]

Originally posted by nolifeking


Yeh, but then I'd have to continually save and exit from the game right?

You could run the game at half-screen (it's bottom left dot when you load up the game), so that you can still be in your OS and play the game.

[YahnV]

Originally posted by VManOfMana
Enter the main Watanabe page.

Look for a SMALL link at the bottom. Should send you to the framed page. Do not enter the MB or ReACT big links at the front.

Look for the diary. The link is in one of the links in the recent entries.

Um, I still can't find it. For some reason, Babelfish can't translate the site either. Can you please post a link?

[nolifeking]

Originally posted by Clear Sky


You could run the game at half-screen (it's bottom left dot when you load up the game), so that you can still be in your OS and play the game.

But then it's not full screen. Kinda hard to see on a 17 inch monitor in a window.

Yahnv, here's the link:

ttp://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_wata/mbr0607.lzh

[Master Chibi]

ReACT is only $24.00? I had no idea O_O.

*runs to buy*

[YahnV]

Originally posted by nolifeking


Yahnv, here's the link:

ttp://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_wata/mbr0607.lzh

Thank you.

[Holy Knight]

Kohaku rips.

Stupid broom blocks her initial super stance. :mad: :p

[koogy]

Originally posted by Holy Knight
Kohaku rips.

Stupid broom blocks her initial super stance. :mad: :p

Ra-shuuuuuuuu!

[YahnV]

Um, there's some sort of menu you can bring up in training right?:confused:

[Holy Knight]

Originally posted by YahnV
Um, there's some sort of menu you can bring up in training right?:confused:

Pause button.

[YahnV]

Originally posted by Holy Knight


Pause button.

The pause button on the keyboard? Doesn't do anything when I press it.

[VManOfMana]

Keep in mind that you also have to buy the original Melty Blood. That's an additional charge.

ReACT is originally 1500 yen (about $13-$15)

---

Since other patches may not be released so openly (the current patch is beta therefore not easy to find), here are the directions:

Main page here:

http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_wata/

There is a link right below the counter. That enters the old site.

http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_wata/index2.htm

In the contents, the sixth link leads to the diary. The patch is the link in entry 139. I think future patches will be posted there.

---

If you are using the keyboard the pause button is F5

[IronChefZilla]

Originally posted by YahnV


The pause button on the keyboard? Doesn't do anything when I press it.

F5 my man (or F6).

edit: Owned.

[YahnV]

Oh, F5.

Thanks all.

[VManOfMana]

Chanigng storng > fierce into jab > fierce in the combo makes the timing a lot easier. I am finally able to pull the combo frequently enough.

Not bad for a keyboard ^_^

Make sure to rename the file's extension to .RPD

Details in the Summary tab of the file's properties.

[VManOfMana]

Same combo with a crossup.

Details in the Summary tab of the file's properties. Make sure to rename to file to .RPD

[VManOfMana]

Miyako B&B combo

Details in the Summary tab of the file's properties. Make sure to rename to file to .RPD

[VManOfMana]

Miyako B&B combo with crossup

Details in the Summary tab of the file's properties. Make sure to rename to file to .RPD

[YahnV]

Damn, you're doing all that on a keyboard? I'm struggling so hard, my left and right hands are fighting it out to see which one will control the motions, and they both win all the time.

[VManOfMana]

Miyako B&B Combo from a grab

Details in the Summary tab of the file's properties. Make sure to rename to file to .RPD

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by YahnV
Damn, you're doing all that on a keyboard? I'm struggling so hard, my left and right hands are fighting it out to see which one will control the motions, and they both win all the time.

Well, it took me a while. What really helped me is that I have played with the keyboard since the EFZ demo came out, and that's about three or four years already.

Something that really helps is that my main computer is a laptop. Laptop keyboards are a lot more responsive than regular keyboards, since they are a lot shorter and you don't have to press the button as much.

It's like a stick: it takes practice.

[YahnV]

Practice.:(

I think I'm going to have to jack my friends PS to game port converter so I can use my MAS.

Anyway, those are some viscious combos.

[cygnus]

Good shit, VMM! Those Miyako combos are brutal.

[cygnus]

Here's a couple more stupid Miyako combos:

Miyako Big Combo 2 (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Miyako - Big Combo 02.RPD)

Miyako Big Combo 3 (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Miyako - Big Combo 03.RPD) - and no, you can't hit them on the way down, I tried. :(

[YahnV]

What's that blood heat junks and how do you do it?

[VManOfMana]

If you do 222 + C with 100% or more, you manually activate Heat

You activate Blood Heat by doing 222 + C, when Heat is activated by reaching 300%

If you do a succesful shielding (parry) while in Blood Heat, you get the Last Arc, a mini counter super.

[cygnus]

Originally posted by YahnV
What's that blood heat junks and how do you do it?

You do 222D during Heat mode. Also, you have to be in full Heat mode, as in, you have to actually gain the 300% meter yourself. So you can't do 222D to go into Heat mode and do it again to go into Blood Heat.

[YahnV]

Last Arc? Sounds crucial.

[shoryukenH2]

Miyako should get her own thread at this rate. I took some cygnus's combo and created an extended version.

Miyako Big Combo 3 (http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~h2huang/MiyakoBigCombo3(H2).RPD)

Miyako Air Dash b&b (www.eden.rutgers.edu/~h2huang/Miyakob&b(H2).RPD)

Miyako Stomp Combos (would theoretically be useful) (www.eden.rutgers.edu/~h2huang/Miyakostomp(H2).RPD)

Miyako wall slams then hits while facing backwards (www.eden.rutgers.edu/~h2huang/Miyakobackwards(H2).RPD)

WEI WEI WEEEI!

[cygnus]

New matches at Yukinase's site:

http://www.globetown.net/~yukinose/muvi.htm

[Master Chibi]

Ok, every time I try install it stops at 99%.

The original that is.

Why?

:(

[Clear Sky]

Originally posted by cygnus
New matches at Yukinase's site:

http://www.globetown.net/~yukinose/muvi.htm

Thanks Cygnus for the link. I've been dying to see match vids for this game. Those were pretty tight.

Nice combos VMM, Cygnus, and H2.

[YahnV]

Is there any reason to play Hisui and Kohaku seperatly as opposed to the team?

And is it just me or does Hisui seem completly gimped in comparison to her sister?

[cygnus]

Yeah you might as well play them as a pair. You get all the tools of both, and the stuff you lose (Hisui's throw random crap move) really isn't needed. Hisui has some good stuff, like the unblockable bento thingy.

The is one good reason to play Kohaku by herself, which is the Crackbaby super (1632143+C). She instantly goes into Blood Heat and gains super armor(!). It takes a long time to execute, so you can set it up by having them block an EX Cactus, and doing it then. Then do another EX Cactus...

[YahnV]

Does everybody have an unlisted super?

[cygnus]

Originally posted by YahnV
Does everybody have an unlisted super?

Nah. The only other one I can think of off the top of my head is Nero's 63214+C super.

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by Master Chibi
Ok, every time I try install it stops at 99%.

The original that is.

Why?

:(

You need to setup your machine settings to Japanese. This also happens with other Watanabe games like Glove on Fight

In XP:

Settings > Control Panel > Regional and Language Options > Languages > Install support for East Asian languages

Then go to Advanced and select Japanese in the Language for non-Unicode programs section.

Windows will probably ask you for the XP CD.

Reboot, install Melty Blood and ReACT

After installation is done you can now reset the language setting back to English.

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by YahnV
Is there any reason to play Hisui and Kohaku seperatly as opposed to the team?

And is it just me or does Hisui seem completly gimped in comparison to her sister?

You got to see Hisui in Melty Blood. In that version, the only move she has is the duster attack, which makes no damage.

At least in ReACT they gave her more stuff. She doesn't has the trap ability of Kohaku, but she got better combos and a better dash.

[=dave=]

Would like to give a big thanks to YellowS4 for helping me to get Mbr to work. He was very helpful! I used Daemon Tools to mount and was able to use the mbr.exe file after applying the patches. :D

There are a few instances that cause the game to crash, including choosing one or two of the available stages, and am experiencing some sound issues, but it's otherwise playable. Having fun using my Sega Saturn controller. :D

[[KFC]rob]

k, no more easy bread n butter stuff, this should be b&b for walakia!!!!!
check the attachments

btw the called walakiaglitchreplay, this combo works in game and doesn't crash the game, but in replay its too horrifying to see again so the game crashes so you can't see it, but here's the notation

2a,2b(1hit), 2c(1hit), 22a, dash b, 623c, 41236c(heat super)

i got more but i'm having trouble with MB, its acting funny and laggin at bits

*edit* i almost forgot to mention this, the really long combo, i have a variation of it for style points, but right now i'm just too tired to do it, its where i run under neath the opponent and continue comboing ala magnus!

[=dave=]

I noticed all of the mb and mbr .exe files try to access the internet. I used my security to stop any such attempts. Anyone else notice this?

[[KFC]rob]

shiki nanayo stuff, you can dash and launch off most of these combos, but i just like doing supers i hate dialing air combos


also to save time i just did dash a, instead of dash a,b, dash a,b will work with all of these.

[cygnus]

Ohhhh, nice Shiki Nanaya stuff! lol I recorded that Walakia combo, and the replay freezes on my machine too lol. Right before the super. Stop breaking the game! haha

[=dave=]

So is there a way to unlock all of the characters? A patch maybe?

[DeAdSpAcE]

Alright I just got the game going and unfortunately as of now I don't have a ps2 adapter so I'm going to have to use the keyboard. Anyone know the controls for the keyboard?:o

Thanks again to YellowS4 for helping me out.:)

[cygnus]

For Keyboard, arrow keys are U/L/D/R, and N/M/,/. are A/B/C/D. F5 pauses.

Here are a couple Reversed Ahika combos:

Reversed Ahika Combo 01 (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Red Ahika - Big Combo 01.RPD)

Reversed Ahika Combo 02 (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Red Ahika - Big Combo 02.RPD)

Edit: Another one

Reversed Ahika Combo 03 (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Red Ahika - Big Combo 03.RPD)

[Bacardi]

match replay bacardi_J3d1(Len) vs Hated One 8(chaos)

[=dave=]

was playing len with sion in mbr and just as i defeated her i kicked len's body just before she hit the ground. she popped up and froze in midair. the round didnt end until i went over and attacked her suspended body again, which made her fall to the floor. wondering if the same effect can occur mid match.

[Clear Sky]

Originally posted by Bacardi_J3d1
match replay bacardi_J3d1(Len) vs Hated One 8(chaos)

The game doesn't recognize the match replay in the versus menu, yet it does in training mode but obviously doesn't load. :(

Anyone else have this problem with bacardi's replay?

[Bacardi]

more match replays

Bacardi_J3d1 vs hatedone8

to the other guy you had to rename the extension to .rpd from txt
but her are a whole bunch in zip that u can leave them the way they are

[Wild Kitty]

That's him vs. me...Wild Fuckin Kitty

[YellowS4]

Originally posted by DeAdSpAcE
Alright I just got the game going and unfortunately as of now I don't have a ps2 adapter so I'm going to have to use the keyboard. Anyone know the controls for the keyboard?:o

Thanks again to YellowS4 for helping me out.:)

hahah np yo

now someone please hack this so i can play online?

[Clear Sky]

Originally posted by Bacardi_J3d1
more match replays

Bacardi_J3d1 vs hatedone8

to the other guy you had to rename the extension to .rpd from txt
but her are a whole bunch in zip that u can leave them the way they are

Yeah I did that. It's not that the file isn't a RPD, it's that the game can't recongize it. I had no problem converting VMM's txt replays.
Not that it matters now though.

Yeah, the PS2 pad is great for this. :D I just can't jump air dash cancel well with it.

[Holy Knight]

Originally posted by Bacardi_J3d1
more match replays

Bacardi_J3d1 vs hatedone8



:cool:

Its funny how you were running into those crows in the begining of one of the rounds. :lol: :p Those damn things come out pretty fast. :eek:

Question: When Chaos does his blood limit super, do you have to block the same direction when he comes back around?

Ripped random Ciel sprites. :D

[Bacardi]

Originally posted by Holy Knight


:cool:

Its funny how you were running into those crows in the begining of one of the rounds. :lol: :p Those damn things come out pretty fast. :eek:

Question: When Chaos does his blood limit super, do you have to block the same direction when he comes back around?

Ripped random Ciel sprites. :D

lol i keep trying to dash under them or parry them as most of the other characters can dash underneath them or I am trying to hold down forward cuz she can crawl under them. I didnt show how broken that bitch really is cuz its not cool to just spam cat rockets and jumping fierce with her

[cygnus]

Another Red Ahika Combo:

Red Ahika Combo 4 (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Red Ahika - Combo 04.RPD)

basically just trying to build off the first one

[Onyx_Chameleon]

So anyone knows if there is a possible way to order a copy of Melty Blood for console use. I am new to this PC F.G. dowloading thingy, and I am pretty sure I wont be able to download this onto my parents PC anyway.:bluu: So you think Japan has made a copy for console use yet?

[Wild Kitty]

Originally posted by Bacardi_J3d1


lol i keep trying to dash under them or parry them as most of the other characters can dash underneath them or I am trying to hold down forward cuz she can crawl under them. I didnt show how broken that bitch really is cuz its not cool to just spam cat rockets and jumping fierce with her

yes, that bitch is dumb.... don't worry walter, by the time you get back im sure ill have messed around with something and came up with an actual combo into that fucking headcrush super...

[Wild Kitty]

also, a lot of times bacardi was messing around with different ways of countering/blocking certain things, as was I. I was trying to see how practical using the activation as a counter, but it's hard to tap down 3 times that fast as a counter move.

Also, when I finally get this installed today (got MB installed, now I gotta do react), ill watch the vids and point out anything interesting.

[orochi no chris]

I got this game working two nights ago and have been pretty much addicted since - right now it's beginning the takeover of the house as the "new game" and everyone's building up their first few preferred characters.

I'm still sorta working on Shiki Nanaya, Nero Chaos, and normal Sion.

[Wild Kitty]

just to keep things simple, can you guys give me a hint as to where in this thread the patch for react is? i got melty blood working and then i got react working, now i just need to patch and im gonna watch those match vids...

oh yea, as far as the j.C loop goes with Chaos, you can actually link 4 of them together if you didn't use up any of your double jumps...

j.c DJC c land j.c DJC c

does like 5000 damage.... not too bad for a 10,000 point lifebar for landing 1 hit or a counterhit..lol chaos is too broken, punishing 1 frame and shit with that super, invincible dash, jumping and crouching c... c.a owns too, mad quick with that much range and it chain/links (you can't cancel off first hit, but cancel off 3rd hit, so it's like a ghetto chain, not a masher character like most of the ones in the game) and you can go into an aircombo after that actually, didn't know that until i played it for myself today, im working on comboing the headcrush super after activating...

[nameingway]

im having a problem installing react now. for some reason when i installed it at home, then at work they both worked fine. of course, when i took the game to my friends house and tried installing it to show them, it didn't work right, allow me to elaborate.

like normally, i drug the melty blood dir out from the melty blood cd, and that works fine. then, i tried installing the expansion but when i tried using the react self extractor (to get all the files i need to play react) i get this weird error that i can't read because it's obviously in japanese. anyone had this similar prob?

[Wild Kitty]

eh, here's how i installed it

1. burned the image to disc, took everything out of it and put it in a folder. Didn't install anything.

2.put all the ReACT stuff in the same folder and used the self-extractor.

3. downloaded the patch into the same folder, extracted everything, and replaced the mbr.exe file, when i load up the game it's ver 2.001

took me like 5 mins to do everything... just dump it all in the same folder and move your replay folder if it puts it in the wrong place, and everything should work fine...

[FatalFuryD]

Shiki Nanaya stuff.. scrubby though

This guy is real speedy.

s.Jab can't do 9 hits any more, I can do only about 4 or 5 now.

air strong does good damage, in a sense that it doesn't leave "red" part of bar much at all.

Dash has high invincibility in the end. This guy's ground dash is really fast, dash cancel into ground chain, and then dash back if it's blocked, seems useful. It's just like gundamwing ed as in how this guy plays! It's great. Dash is really safe and you can even mix it up with qcb+shield or qcf+shield counters.

After air combo don't kock them down, do d,d on air and set up for hcf+fierce unblockable. btw hcf+fierce doesn't catch if you're right next to them(...)

Air d,d seems pretty useless otherwise though, but it's kinda fun to do :/


oh in case someone think I wrote all that, here's where the article came from. It explains hcf+fierce glitch a little bit as well.
*Korean language knowledge or translator tool required
http://gamesection.ivyro.net/mainlow/main.htm

[Chrono Sabre]

Wow. This game got a lot more popular than I had imagined it to. The original wasn't too well known from what I've seen. Anyway, for those of you with the 2.0001 patch, hold Shield while selecting arcade mode to enter Giant Attack.

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by Onyx_Chameleon
So anyone knows if there is a possible way to order a copy of Melty Blood for console use. I am new to this PC F.G. dowloading thingy, and I am pretty sure I wont be able to download this onto my parents PC anyway.:bluu: So you think Japan has made a copy for console use yet?

Melty Blood is not for console. It is only for PC.

Most doujinshi games are made for PC because it is the cheapest platform to develop for.

My long post has details on how to order.

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by Wild Kitty
just to keep things simple, can you guys give me a hint as to where in this thread the patch for react is? i got melty blood working and then i got react working, now i just need to patch and im gonna watch those match vids...


I already put a post in this thread that says how to find the patch link in Watanabe's page.

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by FatalFuryD
Shiki Nanaya stuff.. scrubby though


Both Shikis are a permanent AHVB. Their dash allows them to punish everything that is whiffed or anything that hits and has negative frame advantage.

His very low crouching stance and jumping strong helps a lot too.

You have to be careful when playing them, especially if the Shiki player turtles.

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by Chrono Sabre
Wow. This game got a lot more popular than I had imagined it to. The original wasn't too well known from what I've seen. Anyway, for those of you with the 2.0001 patch, hold Shield while selecting arcade mode to enter Giant Attack.

The original was not well known simply because Yukinoze did not put a video of it.

It was well known in Japan, since Tsukihime stormed the doujinshi game scene. But since it is an independent game, no way it was going to be brought overseas or have any press. But to those who know about doujinshi or Japanese games, saying doujinshi fighter equals Melty Blood and Eternal Fighter Zero.

[Chrono Sabre]

Originally posted by VManOfMana


The original was not well known simply because Yukinoze did not put a video of it.

It was well known in Japan, since Tsukihime stormed the doujinshi game scene. But since it is an independent game, no way it was going to be brought overseas or have any press. But to those who know about doujinshi or Japanese games, saying doujinshi fighter equals Melty Blood and Eternal Fighter Zero.

I knew how popular it was in Japan. I've seen all the random doujinshi games that Tsukihime has spawned. But still, I was quite surprised to see a 150+ post thread on the game. You're right though, Yukinose putting up vids of the game probably had a pretty big influence on the game's overseas popularity.

[Holy Knight]

Giant attack is :confused: . Anyone beat it?

Ripped Aoko's stance. :D

[VManOfMana]

I did with Ciel.

Charge Magic Circle with j. BC > air jump > j. BC > air dash > j.BC

Once in 300%, charge life with Blood Heat, abuse EX Hiero.

[cygnus]

A couple Ahika combos:

Ahika Combo 01 (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Ahika - Combo 01.RPD)

Ahika Combo 02 (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Ahika - Combo 02.RPD)

Edit: and a couple Red Ahika combos:

Red Ahika Combo 05 (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Red Ahika - Combo 05.RPD)

Red Ahika Combo 06 (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Red Ahika - Combo 06.RPD)

Edit 2: V Sion Combo

V Sion Combo 01 (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/V Sion - Combo 01.RPD)

[Akuma4Real]

Here are some Len combos that i've been working on.

Len Launcher (http://members.aol.com/saiyangokou/LenLauncher.rpd)



Len Air Combo (http://members.aol.com/saiyangokou/LenAirCombo.rpd)

[zuggzugg]

Can someone shoot me a pm or msg on AIM? I need some help getting this going.

Thx

[Holy Knight]

Originally posted by Akuma4Real
Here are some Len combos that i've been working on.

Len Air Combo (http://members.aol.com/saiyangokou/LenAirCombo.rpd)

That second combo is hard to time for me. I miss the first jump attack right after the pseudo B launch. The timing on it is unforgiving.

The only combo I can always get is:
cr. B, s. A, ^jump, C, B, ^jump, C, B, airthrow.

How in the heck did you do that charging launch?

[cygnus]

Here's a gay combo:

Len throw combo (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Len - Combo 01.RPD)

and this one that [KFC]rob came up with (first post in the thread):

Sion throw corner combo (http://home.wideopenwest.com/~lcoffmon4851/ReACT Replays/Sion - Combo 01.RPD)

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by Holy Knight


How in the heck did you do that charging launch?

Some moves can be charged by keeping the button pressed. They are slower, but make more damage and have autoguard.

[Holy Knight]

Yeah I knew that much, I just wanted to know which button you hold down and in what condition you have to be in to do it. For some reason I can't find hers like I could find Ciel's/Katsuki's/ect.

[Akuma4Real]

Holy Knight - Nice av! Yeah, the timing on the aircombo from cr. B is tough...and yeah it's easier to go with A instead. How much damage did your combo do? It's possible to get 4001 or something like that in a variation of the combo, but I only did it once and forgot what I did. For the launcher, I do 214 +that shield button.

cygnus - daaamn! I didn't know you can combo after a throw for Len. That is freaking useful, I'm gonna go experiment with that.

[YahnV]

Here's a little crossup thing I've been working on with Hisui and Kohaku. I've been also trying to do a high/low version, but the super timing is weird, it either comes out really early or really late.

Remember to change the file type.

[Nocturnal]

Just wanted to drop a line to say that this game is pretty dam fun to play. I just got it working today and having a blast trying out new combos or what not. I was messing around with most of hte character, will post a replay when I stumble into something that everyone might like. Alright well keep the replays coming and talk to you all later. Oh yea wanted to say thanks to =Dave= for helping me out on getting the game to work on my comp. Alright later all.

Jaime

[Master Chibi]

I still can't install it.

This makes me a sad panda.

:(

[=dave=]

I'll be happy to help anyone with installation problems. Just instant message me on AIM or MSN (check my profile for my im names).

In case anyone's interested I now have the Melty Bloor React, Eternal Fighter Zero, & Hinokakera demos on my site. :D
www.burningdojo.com

[Nocturnal]

Just wanted to let everyone know that they updated their site with a new patch for MBR. It's version 2.002 now...don't know exactly what was added or what not. Just giving everyone a heads up on that. Alright later all.

Jaime

[Holy Knight]

Another patch already? Good shit, atleast its really early before everyone starts getting used to the brokeness of some characters. :p

[=dave=]

That's really great.....link?

[Nocturnal]

The link for it was already posted but they updated the dairy section with it. Go here:

http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_wata/index2.htm

If anyone has problems getting a hold of it or what not I'll be more than happy to send over through AIM. Alright I'm about to test it out myself...if anyone knows what drastic changes where made please post up what's new. Thanks.

Jaime

[Burningfist]

How the HELL do you make this damn thing work with dreamcast sticks?! (if possible 2....)

I've tried quite a few things, including this weird program to convert joystick inputs to keyboard inputs, and nothing works.

[YahnV]

Originally posted by Burningfist
How the HELL do you make this damn thing work with dreamcast sticks?! (if possible 2....)

I've tried quite a few things, including this weird program to convert joystick inputs to keyboard inputs, and nothing works.

Dude, I think it's a whole complications of problems with your laptop because my MAS is working at Tony's house (most of the time). Maybe you should try a new adapter first before you try anything super drastic.

[Burningfist]

You are using the PS part of the stick, arent you?

Unfortunately I cant switch from analog to dpad or anything like that. DC sticks function completely different from playstation ones when converted onto a PC.

I'm just curious if anyone out there has come up with a solution really.

[YahnV]

Originally posted by Burningfist
You are using the PS part of the stick, arent you?

Unfortunately I cant switch from analog to dpad or anything like that. DC sticks function completely different from playstation ones when converted onto a PC.

I'm just curious if anyone out there has come up with a solution really.

Yeah, you're right. I am using the PS part. All of your sticks are DC?

[=dave=]

Originally posted by Nocturnal
The link for it was already posted but they updated the dairy section with it. Go here:
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_wata/index2.htm
If anyone has problems getting a hold of it or what not I'll be more than happy to send over through AIM. Alright I'm about to test it out myself...if anyone knows what drastic changes where made please post up what's new. Thanks.
Jaime

Just missed you on AIM. Still cant find the patch. Would like to IM you. :D

[Holy Knight]

It took me a while, but its the 6th link down from the top. If you check the first highlighted link, it should have a file name of mbr0615.lzh.

[=dave=]

Originally posted by Holy Knight
*snip*
omg someone just post the damn link! :lol:
EDIT: sheesh. http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_wata/mbr0615.lzh

EDIT: full version of Dogma is on my site now too. Any other games worth hosting? (Dogma is shareware btw)

[VManOfMana]

I have already posted in this thread how to get to the diary section.

READ

[nolifeking]

http://www.globetown.net/~yukinose/muvi.htm

New vids on Yukinose's site.

[Master Chibi]

This fucking game just does not want to install on my computer.

*sigh*

:(

[=dave=]

Maybe I can help you out Chibi. Just IM me.

[cygnus]

YES!!!!

Len cannot combo off of her throw in ver. 2.002!!!!!1111111

Red Ahika cannot OTG her super after she slams you with air combo -> air C, (land, super)!!!!

Ciel IAD ground combos are harder, she cannot cancel her airdash with a move as quickly. Also, her air B-C chain seems slower, so you can't do it as close to the ground as before, or the C will not come out before you land.

Arcueid's jump C doesn't cross up anymore. You can still do it, but you have to do it so early that it's really not useful. Also, is it just me or does Vampire Arcueid jump really goddamn high now?

[Master Chibi]

Ok, now I've managed to get it working, thanks to =dave=, so I'm happy.

I'll have to figure out how the game works and all that on my own, so we'll see what happens.

[=dave=]

Ok stupid question time. How do you rip the sprites? I can press the Print screen key on my keyboard while in the game and get a screenshot, however there are 4 pixels in the image for every 1 pixel in the game.

[Bloody Yukata]

Originally posted by =dave=
Ok stupid question time. How do you rip the sprites? I can press the Print screen key on my keyboard while in the game and get a screenshot, however there are 4 pixels in the image for every 1 pixel in the game. I for one wold like to know this as well.

Dave once again thanks for the help with MBR. ;) :D

[Holy Knight]

Originally posted by =dave=
Ok stupid question time. How do you rip the sprites? I can press the Print screen key on my keyboard while in the game and get a screenshot, however there are 4 pixels in the image for every 1 pixel in the game.

320x240

Working on an animated red Akiha stance. :D

[Master Chibi]

I haven't installed mbr yet, but i have a few stupid quesitons.

1. is there a place i can get command / move lists from?

2. is everyone's launcher a combination of the second and third attack buttons? Generally?

3. how exactly are the supers usually done?

4. how do i get everyone?

5. thanks again to all that helped me out.

:D

[ponpoi]

what do ya use for this game? keyboard? gamepad? joystick?

[VManOfMana]

I prefer my laptop's keyboard for both MB and EFZ. I can't use pads, and I am not used to the stick for these games.

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by Master Chibi
I haven't installed mbr yet, but i have a few stupid quesitons.

1. is there a place i can get command / move lists from?

2. is everyone's launcher a combination of the second and third attack buttons? Generally?

3. how exactly are the supers usually done?

4. how do i get everyone?

5. thanks again to all that helped me out.

:D

There's a FAQ linked in this thread. It is also at GameFAQs

[=dave=]

Originally posted by Holy Knight
320x240
Working on an animated red Akiha stance. :D
Oh duh now I get it. I was trying to resize using percentages instead of pixels. Thx. :D
To create animated ones do you just take a screensshot, exit the program, paste it into your image editing program, go back in, and keep doing that and hope you get all the right frames? What's your method?

[Akuma4Real]

Originally posted by cygnus
YES!!!!

Len cannot combo off of her throw in ver. 2.002!!!!!1111111



Nooooooooooooooo!!!! But then again she couldn't do it to Satsuki or any other character that lands flat. I hope that's all they took out and nothing more!

[Master Chibi]

I went through the past 16 pages, but got nothing Vman. I'll check out gamefaqs, but is there any other way to obtain everyone, or does it have to be done through story mode?

Also, on a few stages (like the animated cartoony city stage, and the one with the ribbon rafters atop a building) the framerate drops to 45-50.

Is there anyway to fix this?

:(

[VManOfMana]

Originally posted by Master Chibi
I went through the past 16 pages, but got nothing Vman. I'll check out gamefaqs, but is there any other way to obtain everyone, or does it have to be done through story mode?


If you are talking about regular Melty Blood, google for something called the "Nero patch". It updates MB and releases all the characters.


Also, on a few stages (like the animated cartoony city stage, and the one with the ribbon rafters atop a building) the framerate drops to 45-50.

Is there anyway to fix this?


Melty Blood requires a decent video card. It may be your hardware.

[VManOfMana]

More specifically, the directions are on page 9.

Should I make a thread for EFZ/MB FAQ purposes? That way people can jump to that thread instead of making the same common questions and this thread can dedicate itself to MB discussion.

[Clear Sky]

Please. :cool:

[Master Chibi]

I'd highly appreciate that.

I changed the background options to simple, so now everything runs smooth as silk.

Now I have to put in reACT and the necessary patches and I can finally start chatting it up with you guys.

For now though, I really like Sion.

:D

[Nocturnal]

I went ahead and started a thread at the Strategy Zone in other games for Melty Blood ReAct. So we can post all replays or strategies or what not there now. Alright well keep up the good info on the game and have fun with it. Later.

Jaime

[=dave=]

Getting kind of spread out with 4 ish different threads now. Oh look a new avatar! :D

[[KFC]rob]

dave man, you gotta make me an avatar! lol pimp shit


hit me up on aim

[DarkBlade77]

Originally posted by cygnus
Red Ahika cannot OTG her super after she slams you with air combo -> air C, (land, super)!!!!


Nope, she still can. She can't supercancel off of some normals now, however(like the second hit of crouching B, etc)

[nolifeking]

Just some casual play matches. A lot of Nero...and maids.

[Master Chibi]

I finally get this game working (getting mbr to extract from the iso at all is another ugly story which has yet to happen) but now the nero patch doesn't even open anyone up. Did I do something wrong? All I did was just run the patch.

Bah.

[nolifeking]

The nero patch was for the original Melty Blood. Which unlocked the boss and alternate versions of Sion, Arc, Shiki, etc. You need to run the patch on the original MB, before installing ReAct and it's new patch. I think, the Nero patch changes Mb into version 1.1 or something, I don't remember. But yeh, if ReAct is running fine with the new patch, don't worry about it.

[Master Chibi]

I haven't installed reACT yet because it's plain obvious by now that GOD DOESN'T WANT THIS TO BE EASY ON ME. I've tried extracting the files via winrar from the iso, and it stops at 99%. I tried iso buster to do the same thing, stops at 99%. I've tried mounting the image with Daemon tools, and the image just doesn't register somehow.

So mbr is just in iso form right now.

Otherwise I've installed the nero patch like five times, and the two other patches in this thread relevant to mb, meaning I still have the original melty blood, with no reACT attached, and just Sion, Shiki, Akiha, Arcuied, Ciel, Hisui, and Kohaku. Nobody else.

:(